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DEK: A letter from Provincetown


“L’Affaire Sal’s Place: Money and Meanness in the New Ptown."


By Peter Manso


The first thing you notice when you walk into the resurrected Sal’s Place, in the heart of Provincetown’s West End, is the hustle and bustle of a hot restaurant: the place is packed, the noise level is high, and the servers scoot nonstop to and from the close-set tables. There’s a museum-quality Hawthorne and other class art on the walls, but the place still has a fish shack feel, with exposed rafters and the rhythmic slop of the bay against the pilings on which the waterfront building partially sits. And the food—the Brodetto or Zuppa di Pesce that one Facebook blogger raves about as “so wonderful that Marcella [Hazen] herself would flip,”—well, let me tell you, the Zuppa is so sweet, so transporting in its plummy, tomato-y tannic richness as to have made Sal’s the vacation spot’s dining destination of choice near overnight.

All this was pretty much the word around town last summer when the fifty-four year old Sal’s Place reopened under new management. But the food wasn’t the only things people were talking about. There were also whispers that the owner—a single, self-described blue-collar woman who’d originally arrived in Boston from Tipperary at age 17—was at war with her neighbors—four wealthy men, all gay, who had recently bought the abutting properties for summer party pads, and wanted the place dead and shuttered. In fact, depending on who you knew, you might have heard about bouts of property destruction, interminable delays for the restaurant’s opening, and armies of lawyers getting rich on both sides.


As the not-so-secret knock-down-drag-out tumbled into public view, eating there became an almost political act. Now, after simmering all winter, locals in P-Town are waiting for the hostilities to start afresh.


One resident called the quarrel the “worst case of bullying” he’d come across in his 50 years in town. But you could just as well call the fight over Sal’s place a sort of battle for Provincetown’s soul in miniature—a David and Goliath story about whether the artists, fishermen, and non-mainstream types of all persuasions were still welcome in the new Ptown. Or is this haven at the end of the Cape destined to become an exclusive enclave for the rich gay elite?



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Sunday, February 25, 2018

Town Hall

I recall the battles over maintaining the HISTORICAL Character of Town Hall.  Hell, we still can't get new seats for Town Meeting because they have to be historical in design.

SO why do we have a giant piece of blue PLASTIC if front of the building?
and why do we shine lights on it like a 42nd Street Marque?

Because we have Mr. Talk as the Town Manager.
9:20 am est 

Zoning Went to Midnight on Thursday

...and did they accomplish something good for the town? Or was it, once again, what Paul DeRuyter and Bruce MacGregor and Chris Wise want--no what they demand!!

What a disaster as you drive out of town or worse when tourists drive into town. this is how we welcome you?? Sadly, it does represent where Provincetown is headed or already there. Massive structures, built-for-extreme-profit buildings, and little historic sense of what we once were.
9:19 am est 

Conservation Head Ill Logic - What's Up?

How Crazy an Idea was Conservation Head About Taking in the deck at Sal's when there's a storm

What? Really? How insane to even add this as a condition. And any alert of flooding or a storm would require the owners to role in the deck and take it out. what then put it back one a week. We have storms all the time.

This man should turn in his badge. such an embarrassing and ridiculous presentiment requires a second look at his credentials.
9:18 am est 

Peter Manso

Manso loves to pound the drum, laminating everything that's wrong with provincetown. First off, HE did exactly what he complains about, selling off (and moving out of town)a family home for big money, while ranting about that very thing. He lives full time in Berkeley, and has for years but still wants people to think that his opinion comes from someone who has stuck it out here to this day, instead of bailing out for the big money. Too bad he doesn't (or didn't) have the courage to stick it out here like some of us have, and not taken the easy money way out.
9:15 am est 

Re: Dunkin' Donuts

Nice try, looking to stir up the big pot of hype. It would be impossible to do a drive up at Tedeschis.
9:14 am est 

Dunkin' Donuts

"Not quite sure how a drive-thru window will work for Dunkin' Donuts when it moves into the Tedeschi's building. Still excited to have them in Provincetown."

Dunkin' Donuts?  Oh, how hysterically perfect! That should put some elitist noses out of joint!

9:13 am est 

Hatch and BoS

"Heard from reliable source that Andrews really doesnt want Hatch in the BOS"

So what? She doesn't endorse him.

The town vote gets candidates elected...
9:11 am est 

Chair of the BOS

 I think the Chair of the BOS is warranted in her concerns, tho' she keeps protecting the man in the corner office, despite significant reporting that his behavior would have resulted in his being fired after the first incident.

Apparently there is greater fear of finding a replacement, than in making sure the environment is safe for stall and volunteer board members.

Like Ivanka T. she does not define democracy and the people will speak to that on Election Day.  If it does come to passs it will be fun to watch her put in her place more than once an often.

Has anyone noticed that two of the most divisive and pompous people in Provincetown are both dentists?  Excuse me, Dr!

Must be the fluoride in the water!

9:10 am est 

Thursday, February 22, 2018

Dunkin' Donuts


Not quite sure how a drive-thru window will work for Dunkin' Donuts when it moves into the Tedeschi's building. Still excited to have them in Provincetown.

9:44 pm est 

Hatch in the BOS


He's all ready up the Town managers b......   

9:34 pm est 

Monday, February 19, 2018

Hatch and BoS


Heard from reliable source that Andrews really doesnt want Hatch in the BOS

8:33 pm est 

Follow the Law


Isn't it time that town Employees Stop sleeping with those they oversee??

this is what sexual harassment entails. those in lower positions--in more ways than one--can't readily say  no if their job and advancements depend on this person's recommendations. those in power have power over them. Just like teachers cannot sleep with their students--even if the students are willing! It is fundamentally an issue of power--not sex.

This is the law. Why won't town employees and the BOS follow the law?

8:31 pm est 

These are the Facts : Cape Cod Docks


Cape Cod Docks is responsible and they should be in front of Conservation Tuesday

Wow. thanks for this letter. I also believe that the deck needed to be torn down so that Greg Connors could do all the work needed for his little mansion by the sea. His was a major job that needed bull dozers and cranes and the deck was simply in the way.

Where was the oversight by the town and by Conservation? Yikes! this letter just lays out what actually happened.

8:29 pm est 

We are All Being Funiculed With the Funicular

What a whacky idea. the museum can't draw people there. Instead, start having lunch and wine and the views are magnificent. turn this venue into the grand view it is. It's a room and not really a museum. We don't need a funicular that will rust for seven months. this is not Disneyland, in spite of the blue chair.

8:28 pm est 

They're Just Like Trump


"Our thoughts and prayers are with the housing crisis"

The BOS and TM response to the Housing Crisis.
They're just like Trump.  Delusional and full of ego.  YUK!

8:56 am est 

Sunday, February 18, 2018

Re: Big Money & Lawyers


The only winning is town counsel with his home in Chatham.
The town loses all the time with the lack of a pro active legal counsel and a totally disengaged BOS from the regulatory processes which have been shaping the destiny of this town

8:46 pm est 

These are Facts


Cape Cod Docks, Inc.



23 Bog Road

West Yarmouth, MA 02673-1426

DATE: 1/5/16


Phone 508 718-4711 Fax 508-790-1915





Lora Papetsas


Siobhan Carew


99 Commercial Street


Provincetown, Ma. 02657

Dear Lora & Siobhan,


Cape Cod Docks will replace the deck extending across to the restaurant building, and vertical retaining wall, within the exact same footprint and elevation as what existed, and assume all costs for construction of the new deck and vertical retaining wall. The new deck will be constructed out of pressure treated materials. The new vertical retaining wall will be pressure treated, tongue and groove, 3" x 10" timbers. In addition to the deck replacement, Cape Cod Docks, will repair the existing timber stairway to the upper units, and duplicate the simple cross buck style handrail, as previously existing, at no charge to you.


Upon notification of the timing for the water to be turned on, Cape Cod Docks will inspect and repair any damage to the pipes in the access area between 101 and 99 Commercial Street.


All work will be completed as soon as possible. Pending approval to proceed with construction prior to January 8th, 2016, all new construction will be completed by April 15th, 2016, and all debris will be removed daily.


Upon approval to proceed with construction we will begin the demolition of the 99 Commercial Street pier, which allows us access to the underside of the restaurant portion of the pier. Cape Cod Docks, Inc. will then begin replacing the disturbed/removed area of the deck and underside restaurant portion of the pier.


If you would like Cape Cod Docks, Inc. to scale back the existing lockers, we will require additional detailed information, but are more than willing to satisfy your needs.


In regards to grease tank, we will ensure that it is fully functional for the Spring of 2016.





Lawrence Demers



8:15 pm est 

Re: Facts


The issue is not if the facts are outdated, if they are factual!

7:52 pm est 



Wow.  Lots of outdated facts.  Get your act together, Peter.

7:49 pm est 

Thanks for the Heads up


Peter Manso, thanks for the heads up.  Now that we know that you r new hangout is Sals, well stay far, far away from it.  Your venom can ruin any meal.

7:48 pm est 

Re: Big Money & Lawyers


Provincetown's Formula Business by-Law was Stronger Than Wellfeet's

but the town administration was weaker and frankly inept. We have a strong formula business by-Law with a weak and inexperienced zoning Board and a Planning Board that shuns its duty in relation to this by-law. We should have gone forward and not agree to this weak mediated agreement. Truly, there are more balls in a pack of tennis balls container than town administrators all together have or ever had. It is tragic to be this weak-kneed, scared, and timid.

and if the town planner had not been "with"--in more ways than one-- the legal defense of CVS, then this would not have happened. As is her past behavior, she will be "with" whoever leads to her advantage--even if it is to the disadvantage of Provincetown.

7:45 pm est 

Re: Anyone??

Don't play stupid. You know the facts, way too many of the facts and talk way too much in public and you shouldn't be in here spreading rumors and innuendo to support your position. Karma is a b**ch.

To the webmaster;
matters regarding employees for any agency, especially town and state, should be banned from this forum. Lies, innuendo, falsehoods and rumor only muck the system up as personnel issues are private.

7:43 pm est 

Town Planner


"Since we don't need a Planner & didn't in the 1st place,now that there's no land left to plan,this is a good time to write the position out of the budget in the next Town Meeting! So do it & resolve further problems!"

You forget she was Yinglings girlfriend, we had to get her a job in town, so Donegan helped him get her here.

Now our acting town planner Gardner is dating our                    ..........

Ah forget it, its too hard to keep up with who is zooming who in our little Peyton Place.  And the taxpayers just keep paying and paying.

7:26 pm est 

Re: Big Money & Lawyers

It's not the lawyers that win because the towns lawyers buckle under pressure, its the fact that the bylaws are poorly written and the town has no defense against the appeals. Looking at the "chain store" bylaw, it was already revealed in Wellfleet that the bylaw was wrong and flawed yet we did nothing to fix our bylaw so it would be loophole free and legal. Our bylaw was taken to court and as we know, it was defeated in court. Look at the height bylaw in regards to 350 Bradford. It's already been appealed and will be again on the same project but in the meantime, during the process of appeal, the town planner and planning board decided to change the bylaw to tighten it up. That's a HUGE admission of being wrong when you correct something WHILE it's under appeal. 350 will win due to the vagueness of the height bylaw. Once it's fixed, it won't be challenged any more due to clarification and the town lawyers will be happy.
What should happen is the planning board and the planner, whoever that may be, should review all of the definitions first and then the bylaws themselves and update them to current case law and based on prior appeals locally. Only then will the town win in court.

THAT'S what a planner should be doing all the time. The town is built out, planning is not a concern.


10:11 am est 

David Panagore

Panagore getting a manicure is much better than watching him eat again on camera

Perhaps someone should explain the red light on air to him
10:08 am est 

All Talk

Cheryl Andrews is to housing what trump is to the dreamers

She talks all interested but doesn’t really give a f@@k


10:07 am est 

Shuttle Service vs Funicular

This request is addressed to our Board of Selectmen and the Board of Directors of the Pilgrim Monument and the Zoning Board, Historical Board, Planning Board,Conservation Commission and Beautification Committee and the Chamber of Commerce.

Read the February 2015 article on "Calhoun Hollow Parking Lot Won't Reopen This Year.

Beachcomber Todd LeBart said "...he was planning to run daily shuttle bus service between White Crest and Cahoon again this summer. It costs us around $30,000 to run the shuttle for the summer," he noted because it brings business to restaurants.

Why can't the Pilgrim Monument run a similar shuttle service for the summer for $30,000?

Apply the $1.2 - $1.8M capital expenditure and apply it to the 1965 museum and collections which is sorely in need of renovation and updating to attract more visitors.

It's 53 Years Old and nothing has changed.

Where are the strategic priorities of the Board of Directors?

The Board of Selectmen and its regulatory boards should never allow the desecration of our most historic landscape because of political connections and personal ambitions.

The Town of Sandwich said NO to the Heritage Museum a few years ago when it tried to introduce an amusement park to its grounds to attract more visitors.

A Non Profit Organization, and its Board of Directors, should be held to the highest standard of preserving the town's historic landscape while making financially prudent decisions for the mission of its organization.

A win-win solution must be sought.
11:37 pm est 

Bos Chair

So if anyone watched the joint meeting of the BOS and the Visitor's Services Board and heard the Chair's ending comments that and I am paraphrasing " in my opinion the Board over the past 2-3 years has done a disservice to the Town" Maybe she and her Board needs to look in the mirror, grade herself and let the professionals and or staff/Boards do their jobs. You wonder why you don't have many volunteers for any Boards when the Chairman of the BOS criticizes and belittles an entire Board. So much for collaboration, she seems to listen to folks in line at the Stop & Shop or her pals via phone calls vs. the very volunteers and staff who do the work!
11:30 pm est 


Are we becoming a town just for drugs and pot smokers. We don't need recreational pot stores in this town. This little town is ruined.
11:29 pm est 

Anyone know if there is any truth to the story I heard about a Town employee threatening to SHOOT another Town employee??! WTF is going on with these guys? Hoping someone is doing something....
11:27 pm est 

Provincetown Inn

The rumored sale of Provincetown Inn to become a Marriot has fallen through.
11:26 pm est 

Fomer Provincetown Principal

As a parent of children in Provincetown schools I do have to say that when you walk in that  school since that principle is gone you hear laughter and happy children. That woman was a           nut job and acted like a baby if she didnt get her way. She had everyone doing her job so she could lock herself in her office . She did nothing but cause friction in there. I will never understand how the superintendent always stuck up for her. Ok so then the slap in the face had come. She quit her job in the middle of the year. Then a member of the school committee was blamed for doing his job. That was           too. He was the only one that did his job the right way. So as time goes on the school is a much better place without the     
11:24 pm est 

BoS Meeting

If any business owner in Provincetown and or a member of any tourism entity care to know how the BOS feel about tourism, the economic engine of this Town they need to hear the comments from the Chair of the BOS and her condescending attitude at each and every turn. I believe the video is on PTV as of tonight, her words and those of Tom D speak for themselves.
11:17 pm est 

CHC Struggling to Meet Quorum

K. Hatch just had to have that HA job. Community beware, conniving and cunning that one, must be a family trait.
11:16 pm est 


Save the Date, Provincetown Pride?  Shall we have a history lesson on what Carnival is? 
11:14 pm est 

A Man Not to Be Trusted: John Golden

No respect for Grace O'Malley. No respect for her experience and knowledge on Planning. No, he casts her aside as if she is a feather, a non-consequential member. then after picking his own Chair, he sickenly says: I nominate Grace O'Malley as vice chair. She declines. Of course. She has been treated as a nothing, as window dressing by someone who is himself a nothing.

Your actions reveal who you are. I leave it to others to name Golden's action.
11:13 pm est 

Selectmen's Election


I am pleased there will be other candidates to choose from and some fresh idea's proffered.  A breath of fresh air will be welcomed, I think.
11:12 pm est 

Bradford Abcess

Thank you to the author of that articulate and well researched counter opinion to the project, lots of ideas to chew on and many points being brought forward for the first time. Thank you for taking the time to research it, write it and pose the questions that are on the minds of many who have been reluctant to speak out.  Free speech will make America great again.
11:10 pm est 

Good Article by Peter Manso

And the story of Sal's is the story of the changes in Provincetown. Again, big time money and the serial use of lawyers to get what they want. Self interest and narcissistic demands. so trumpian and now so Provincetown.
11:09 pm est 

Big Money & Lawyers

The town is Threatened by big Money and their Lawyers

they simply buckle and then either agree to the wants of the developers or the threats from rich neighbors or set up a fake "mediation" which is nothing else than cowardly response. they have no balls; no gumption. and sadly it comes from the top. It is the result of a lack of leadership. Sad but true.
11:07 pm est 

She's Back

I see they have our girl back on the drive up window. We have missed her Dont have to ask for balances or print out she righton top of it for us ....jd
11:06 pm est 

Town Manager

Love Panagore giving himself a manicure during BOS meeting
11:04 pm est 

Town Planner

Since we don't need a Planner & didn't in the 1st place,now that there's no land left to plan,this is a good time to write the position out of the budget in the next Town Meeting! So do it & resolve further problems!
11:03 pm est 

Re: We Need to do Better

I wonder if Wayne Martin has any energy left in his "running shoes"? He ran last time, good ideas, good intentions (I voted for him) but he fell short. Now we have a no name and Hatch? That's not good.
11:02 pm est 

Saturday, February 17, 2018

Re: What a Relief it Is!

"Welcome to Provincetown, the Capital of Gay Misogyny. Rose McGowan was right; you bit..... are no better than your straight male counterparts...and you have the nerve to strut around thinking you're better than anybody?? Pathetic whiny babies."

So, it this what passes for feminism these days? Well, no wonder it gets such a bad rap. You've made your position quite clear. You think all men, gay and straight, are inferior and misogynist. Well, you are entitled to your opinion, but exactly how do you expect to get by in this world which you inevitably have to share with members of the opposite sex? Perhaps you should find another planet, one inhabited entirely by females? Or better yet, you could imprison or even execute all the males!

And why is it OK for you to call all men pathetic whiny babies? How is that not offensive? If men make similar offensive blanket statements about women, you just decry that as more misogyny. So let me get this straight: Feminism means you can insult men but they cannot respond in kind, correct? Feminism means all men are stupid and misogynist and women are a superior race, right?

Good luck with that.

10:59 pm est 

Monday, February 12, 2018


Where did the town come up with all this money?  Every time I turn around we seem to be adding a new employee or giving someone a huge raise.  Where are the watchdogs in all of this?
11:30 pm est 

From Where?

Where did the town come up with all this money?  Every time I turn around we seem to be adding a new employee or giving someone a huge raise.  Where are the watchdogs in all of this?
11:28 pm est 

Sunday, February 11, 2018

Mr. Call the Question!

Seems John golden did all he could to make Certain Grace O'Malley Rohm would not be Chair

He nominated someone with so much less experience than Grace. But it is the Boys's game, ins't it? and Grace is outside, abandoned to the inside politics. How disgraceful. Goldenis a piece of you know what. Ignorant, arrogant and Mr. Call the Question. He knows so little and now this board is left to inexperienced nothings. And Steve Baker--the man is sad and literally even more ignorant of the rules.

Well, Gloria, you created this board of puppets and now the puppets are there without any strings. One of the poorest boards in terms of knowledge of their own rules.
11:51 am est 

We Need to do Better

Dont know Lise King, the possibility of Mark Hatch on the BOS is disturbing.  A misogynist who worships at the feet of Panagore is not what we need on the BOS.

Please step up people.  We need to do better.

Many of us remember posts like where he explained that he was smarter than 95% of the people here.

We need to do better.
11:49 am est 

Business Owners Beware!
There's a new credit card provider offering rates that seem too good to be true. Do a web search on them and you'll see the rest of the cliche.

11:42 am est 

58 Bradford Street

It seems work has stopped on the reno of 58 Bradford. I know the developer wanted to lift the multi story house for more units and parking I think. I have a feeling it is going to be declared a tear down so that what they want will happen....This has been the mo of many in the past. As an aside, I do not know if this is fair or not.
11:40 am est 

Tiny Houses

Too late!  Provincetown IS a trailer park, simply an overpriced one!

TINY HOUSE on wheels = A Trailer.

We don't need a trailer park in Provincetown.

Thank you.
11:39 am est 

Re: What a Relief it Is!

Welcome to Provincetown, the Capital of Gay Misogyny. Rose McGowan was right; you bit..... are no better than your straight male counterparts...and you have the nerve to strut around thinking you're better than anybody?? Pathetic whiny babies.
11:38 am est 

Beware the Thought Police

They don't wish you to think for yourselves, or look behind the curtain at the great and powerful Wizard of Oz!
11:36 am est 

Same Old, Same Old

The sentiment won't change in Provincetown; it has been the same for decades. Give me housing, give me the job that I want and the apartment that I want.

It is the same old saying, what is mine is mine and what is yours is mine too. Let me tell you how to spend your money.

Let me tell you how to provide housing for me. Too bad you didn't think about that when prices were low and you were still just renting here.

When I bought my house, all of my peers were in the same position to buy a house but they were content to rent. Now that the world has changed--they want the rest of us to provide them with housing.

You loved working in the summer and taking off to the warm waters and collect unemployment in the Winter and you called me a Chump when you returned asking me how my Winter was.

Now all you do is cry and cry about wanting affordable housing. Give it up already.

11:35 am est 


Havent the planner comments reached a stalker level? Sad person. Hopefully not dangerous.
11:33 am est 

Gloria, Candid Camera and Alka Seltzer

Who else but that same old dude,clogging up the blog with mouldy references to Gloria, Candid Camera and Alka Seltzer. Convinced he's right on time, everyone else is either in Florida or frozen stiff from boredom to even bother refuting his dribble. Not I though, woken from my slumber just long enough to shout: shut the fxxx up.
11:32 am est 

Tiny Houses

This could only come from you-know-who over on Fishburne Court: "There are some seriously wealthy people in Ptown. If each of them would support the building of a tiny house, it would be some private funding. Maybe they could build the solar panels for the tiny house complex." Would these be the same people that she regularly mocks, insults, rants against, demeans, and dismisses?? Would those be the same people that she now expects to cough up cash out of the goodness of their hearts to fund these silly tiny homes (AKA trailer parks)? Only in P-Town!
11:30 am est 

Richard Olson

Yes, indeed when he was on the BOS he outlined the history of the D___K  DOCK.  Much to the amazement of his fellow board members and the public.

His frankness will be missed.
11:28 am est 

Bradford Access Project

The entire Board of Selectmen, and its Chairman, Dr. Cheryl Andrews, and the lead proponent from the Pilgrim Monument, Paul DeReuyter, and its full Board of Directors, need to temporarily put the brakes on the proposed "Bradford Access Project" before an application is submitted to the regulatory boards in order to better understand and assess the benefits versus the adverse impacts of the proposal.

On the surface, it makes tremendous sense to connect the town proper to the Monument but a rigorous consideration and formal study, independent of the Pilgrim Monument, is needed for the following reasons:


Think of current traffic backed up on Conwell Street to Route 6 trying to turn onto Bradford Street, then trying to access parking at Duarte's, and then backed up on Bradford trying to turn onto Standish Street, and continuing to a more congested and dangerous intersection of Ryder & Bradford Street (with more pedestrians) crossing the street to ride the funicular or trying to enter Winslow Street to park free at the Monument and ride the funicular to town later.

Add additional traffic impact for CVS and possibility of Dunkin Donuts and you might as well be on the Southeast Expressway during rush hour.


Little known fact: The Pilgrim Monument is the most visited cultural institution on Cape Cod with over 90,000 visitors, primarily concentrated during July and August.

As the Executive Director of the Provincetown Chamber of Commerce stated in the February 1 Banner article, the Monument will have the only funicular on the Cape and it will be a huge attraction for visitors to come to Provincetown.

The funicular will become the Monument"s #1 attraction and it is being proposed for its revenue producing ability in order to ultimately improve the collections and museum building.


Cost estimate of project is $1.2 - $1.8 M proposed to be paid with available cash funds.

Most revenue will be collected in July & August (60 days) with the tram holding 16 passengers for a three minute ride up and three minute ride down for total six minutes.
Add minimum of 5 minutes for total of 10 minutes to seat passengers and assume majority of riders will be between 10 am - 4 pm (360 minutes).

If you subtract total of 16 minutes for loading and round trip times, the functional availability of the funicular is 44 minutes/hour or total of 262.80 minutes/day with 16.4 trips/day & 16 maximum passengers/trip = 262.4 visitors/day X 60 days = !5,744 Additional Visitors

The potential of 15,744 additional visitors (+17%) to the Monument, potentially accessing an already congested intersection at Ryder & Bradford Streets) REQUIRES A MAJOR TRAFFIC STUDY BY THE CAPE COD COMMISSION.

If the funicular ticket price were $10, it would produce additional $150,744 in revenue w/o consideration of operating costs.


Shouldn't the Zoning Board assess the application for the proposed permanent structures (Pavilion & Structural Pilings & Tracks for funicular and all other appropriate criteria of community benefit/impact?
Shouldn't the Historic Commission assess the degradation of the current pristine hillside landscape with its sole focus of the Monument and the Bas Relief (to be beautifully restored to its pristine condition by taxpayer dollars), only to be reduced to a scarred and denuded hillside with train tracks and a funicular and an overetowering entrance pavilion which will diminish the main historic attraction, the restored Bas Relief?

And shouldn't the Conservation Commission and the Beautification Committee exercise their appropriate roles in this process?


Before the application is submitted, the Board of Selectmen should refer the proposal to the Cape Cod Commission for a Determination of Regional Impact, given the 90,000 annual visitors to the Monument and the additional impact it will have on traffic on Cape Cod, and more intensely, Provincetown.

If the Board of Selectmen determined that Shankpainter Road required Cape Cod Commission assistance, then the same standard should apply to a much greater project impacting Provincetown.

If the Board of Selectmen fails to make a DRI referral to the Cape Cod Commission, then a regulatory board has the authority if it so deems appropriate.


Every option to a tram should be examined for cost/benefit/adverse impact.

If the daily operating capacity of the funicular is 262 visitors, shouldn't the Pilgrim Board of Directors consider and the Board of Selectmen insist on the initiation of a shuttle bus from the Bas Relief (which would solve the inaccessibility issue) on a trial basis?

It could answer some very fundamental questions before we sanction the desecration of our most central revered town historical landscape.

Facts First before Fictional Hyperbole Rules The Day.
11:26 am est 

Sunday, February 4, 2018

Town Planning

She may be gone but the people she served are still there, very active and still devious.  There won't be a sliver of land left undeveloped and not dollar not made.

Don't be fooled, her boyfriend may leave the BOS, but the aroma will be around.

You can't hide anything in this town, ears are everywhere.

Warming trend, time to clean house!

Smile you're on candid camera.
3:32 pm est 

Tiny House

TINY HOUSE on wheels = A Trailer.
We don't need a trailer park in Provincetown.

Thank you.
10:13 am est 

What a Relief it is!

Like the Alka Selzer Ad: what a Relief it is!

to not have Gloria McPherson running the show. Sorry for the city that now has her "expertise"--non-existent knowledge rooted in her training: French language. One good French word for her performance: merde! she did her damage--look at 350 Bradford; look at CVS; she was the developer's girlfriend--so to speak. there for them; there to do their bidding.

Yes, so fortunate Gloria McPherson is gone. and yes: what a relief it is!
12:23 am est 

Re: Erick Yingling

Conflict of interest, Yingling

Read up Eric or you'll be sure to be nailed.
12:21 am est 

Re: Erik Yingling

I hope he realizes he MUST stay away from anything he had his hand in singularly or as a member of the selectmen for at least one year. In some instances, he must stay away forever, never to gain from decisions he made as a selectman that would in any way benefit him in the future, whether planned or coincidental. It's in the ethics laws. Look it up.
12:20 am est 

Who's at the Helm?
"Now say goodbye to the pool, to the bar, to a place that did offer some enjoyment. If the Boatslip sells, well then, what is left? Mega homes with less and less interesting places for entertainment."
Well, gosh, I guess we'll have a town filled with a bunch of bored 1% wanna-be queens who'll abandon us for the next Fire Island....oh well.... "Now say goodbye to the pool, to the bar, to a place that did offer some enjoyment. If the Boatslip sells, well then, what is left? Mega homes with less and less interesting places for entertainment."
12:19 am est 

Saturday, February 3, 2018

Gettin It Done

There seems to be a big rush to "get things done" in the dead of winter when many people are gone, or we are too zoned out indoors to get too riled up.

Smart move but very Orwellian.

Think about it kids!  It' ain't your grandmother's Provincetown.
12:06 pm est 


Yes, time for some new blood on the Board of Selectmen, a good place to cut your teeth on Town politics.  The only constant is change, death and taxes.
12:04 pm est 

Re: 1/2 a Loaf

Well, even if the crust is hard, the bread could still be moldy the community center.
12:03 pm est 

Funicular Project

Wow, that's a long and well thought out assessment, someone is connecting the dots.  Interesting isn't it, a real roadmap of Town relationships, interrelationships, potential conflicts of interest and pay backs.

Keep an eye on that, I am sure more will be coming to light as times moves on, January is a good time for people to do the math.

12:02 pm est 

Revamp the Zoining By-Laws

Zoning by-laws should be protecting restaurants to remain as restaurants

We did have that in the past. but many of the new by-laws were put to help developers to the dismay of unique and interesting businesses.

Protect the character of the town. Protect places that add so much to how people enjoy this town. short-sided, money-driven by-laws do not help Provincetown maintain its attraction as a significant tourists destination.

12:01 pm est 

Who's at the Helm?

If Sheehan Hospitality is transferring the License from the Provincetown Inn to their corporation

then that is it for the Provincetown Inn. It looks as if they would turn this into a nursing and/or rehabilitation place.

the town should have bought this instead of Harbor Hill. Now say goodbye to the pool, to the bar, to a place that did offer some enjoyment.

If the Boatslip sells, well then, what is left? Mega homes with less and less interesting places for entertainment.

Tourists do not come to see a rehab building or chain stores. We are on a slippery slope and no one is watching the ship.
11:57 am est 

Erik Yingling

Is Yingling not running so he can get a Harbor Hill apartment and not be called out as a Selectman? Would not put it past him
11:55 am est 

Whalers Wharf

Whalers Wharf dumping their snow into the plowed street.
This is illegal!
A public safety issue.
11:53 am est 

Why do We Need a Town Planner?

Didn't we learn any lessons from the last one? the town is developed and it is too late for the insights of a true town planner.

Leave David Gardner in the position he holds and add in town planning skills. Pay him more for this dual position or almost dual. that makes more sense.

another Gloria is not what we need! even if her name is Frank!
11:52 am est 

Mark Hatch is Same Old, Same Old

Nothing changes. He is not dynamic. He is focused on himself and doesn't work for the best interest of the town. It is all about him.

Nothing much will change, sadly.
11:50 am est 

2 Problems Solved...

What a nice little racist hypocrite you are.  Of course, some of us have already discerned that too many of your kind populates this town.  "Diversity", my ass...

Let's put all those illegals at the CVS
7:09 pm est
11:49 am est 

Funicular Project

Will the individual that is rambling about the funicular project get a life? This project will make a unique part of Provincetowns history available to many people that are not physically able to assend the hill  to the museum. It will be a money maker as well (eventually). Why be so negative?
11:48 am est 

Re: Oh No!

You're correct, a potential bombogenisis of selectmen failure but if not Hatch, who? Without a candidate with a spine, we will get the government we deserve as mentioned in an earlier post. Some names have been thrown pout but those people have never shown interest other than Martin and he definitely wouldn't put up with Andrews.
11:47 am est 

Re: Eric Yingling

I agree and for a number of other reasons, I am so happy he will not run in the spring. Such an abomination.

But with an ego like his, there has to be a big reason why he's giving up his seat of power.
11:45 am est 

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