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  Mark Silva: A Rich Goodby

The church was packed. There was even a long line to enter St. Peter's. There were people sitting along the side pews. All the pews were filled.

We were there to attest to your legacy, to what you gave to this town and to all of us. You brought the energy for the Portuguese Festival and revived it. You brought the energy for the Regatta and revived this wonderful celebration. You gave of yourself, of your time and of your vision.

The town was there to bid you farewell and to thank you for everything that you have done for us. And you did it with humor, joy and a sense of much celebration. You knew how to throw a party and taught the town to do it too!

You were unique and you will be missed. But you would not leave without our thanks and without a party at the Red Inn. We were there with tears and we were there with much laughter and gratefulness for you.

Adieu, Mark! May the angels carry you on holy wings into eternal peace and celebration!

 

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Wednesday, August 31, 2016

Re: Town Planner Degree
 
"Please contact if you feel Town Planner has acted unethically"

How is any of this unethical? maybe not the best idea according to some but not seeing how it is unethical? social media lynch mob is also a stretch  

 

6:00 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner Degree

"We demand that the Town Planner give absolute proof of her being a degreed Town Planner.  .  ."


Last I knew the Town Manager was responsible for town staff, not some social media lynch mob.  If the TM is satisfied with the qualifications and work of the TP then you don't have the right to demand anything.

Just when I thought I'd seen it all.
5:57 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner Degree

We demand that the Town Planner give absolute proof of her being a degreed Town Planner.
 
What school did she attend and when did she receive her degree in Town Planning?
 
Simple questions requiring straightforward answers! 
5:03 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Tedeschi's

The barriers at Tedeschi's are a serious accident waiting to happen! 

there is an long explanation on Town talk?
4:56 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Tedeschi's

Enough with the red and white barriers, they are on private property. Shut up and let them do their freakin renovations.
4:53 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Tedeschi's

The barriers at Tedeschi's are a serious accident waiting to happen! They should be moved immediately,if not sooner! The Planner &/or others have no business to be directing citizens to trespass through Tedeschis property unless they're customers! If an accident occurs there's potentially 3 law suits by pedestrians/car/ Tedeschi Co! A short temporary test has proven too dangerous so move them out! Who had to pay for those blockades? Not Taxpayers,I hope!! Very poor planning advice!
12:19 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Tedeschi's

This is an absolutely horrible idea to create a traffic flow. The barriers look awful, most visitors to the town see that almost immediately when entering town, the flow isn't an issue and hadn't been when all of the other gas stations were there. Drive in, drive out, no barriers, no issues. Now this?? Horrible planning, horrible idea. Is this temporary or permanent
12:18 pm edt 

Tuesday, August 30, 2016

Re: Town Planner - Tedeschi's

This traffic issue is very revealing and is taking on a serious aspect. Someone could get killed  and the town will be left holding the bag.  
 
Does the Town Planner have an actual degree in City Planning or is  she flying by the seat of her pants? What are her degrees?

 
Forget the BS! What are her actual degrees and from what institution of learning. What year did she receive her degree in City Planning. I smell a red herring. Too many positions in this town are held by unqualified people.
 
Prove my suspicions wrong. Put up or get out! 
11:22 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Tedeschi's

So this is to the brain trust at town hall and the planning board who thought  the barriers at Tedeschis were a good idea for a "traffic study". Just witnessed someone almost get pinned between a vehicle backing out of a parking space and a barrier while walking through the Tedeschis parking area , which is where I guess the town now wants us to walk seeing how the cross walk across Bradford leads right on to what I would think is private property (owned by Tedeschis). So who is held responsible now if someone is hurt at this site? The town for this ridiculous temporary solution to study traffic patterns, and forces pedestrians on to this property to walk behind the barriers? Or the store which probably had no other choice but to put these up or risk fines or other town sanctions? Another self absorbed town board and overzealous Town Planner sticking their noses where they probably didn't belong. It's an eyesore and seems pretty unsafe going forward.
11:14 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

Please contact if you feel Town Planner has acted unethically.
Actions Regarding Ethical Conduct
 
FILE A COMPLAINT OF MISCONDUCT, SEEK INFORMAL ADVICE, ACCESS ANNUAL REPORTS
 
All communications regarding specific ethics situations should occur either in letters or phone conversations with APA's Ethics Officer in his or her capacity as the ethics officer. Because of issues of reliability and confidentiality, email communication is not to be used.
 
Filing a complaint of misconduct. If you believe an AICP member has violated the AICP Code of Ethics and Professional conduct, consider submitting this AICP Ethical Conduct Complaint Form.
 
Seeking informal advice. Contact APAs Ethics Officer at 312-786-6360 if you would like to discuss a matter involving your own professional conduct or matters involving other planners.
 
Access the Annual Reports on Case Activity and Requests

11:10 pm edt 

Re: Tedeshi's - The Planning Board Needs Help

I'd Like to Hear from Mike Travato About these Barriers on Bradford

It is a weird set-up. It seems unsafe. The traffic is the worse I've seen in many years. It plainly does not make any sense to configure traffic this way.

Who can make this work? I've heard so many complaints from so many residents. It is presently unsafe.
10:56 pm edt 

Tedeshi's - The Planning Board Needs Help

If they are the ones who installed these terrible barriers at Tedeschi, they should not be involved in traffic. this is a mess. the entrance is the worse place to use for coming into Tedeschi's and the barriers cause back-ups and a mess with the traffic. It is so confused and so disorganized that it should go back to being an open and welcoming space. this is possibly the worse option that could be created.

and Tedeschi's should not be a place for Planning Board nor the town Planner to learn what is right and what is good.

Any child of six could tell you that this is a mess!
10:54 pm edt 

Monday, August 29, 2016

Re: White Party

Based on the rumors I read on this page regarding the White Party being sold out, the rumors are false.  On line ticket sales are sold out and there will be 100 tickets available at the door. This info was confirmed to me this afternoon by the event organizer. He states they will go quickly and people will be turned away after the hundred are sold.  The residents of Delft Haven, collectively, decide how many people will descend upon their property that day, which determines the number of tickets available. So if you get there early enough, you still have a chance.
8:45 am edt 

Re: Josephine Del Deo

A wonderful Celebration for Josephine Del Deo

the town is in mourning. the town is also celebrating her memory and her contribution. thanks you Joephine Del Deo for everything you have done for all of us.

You were the sprit behind so many dunes, so many houses, so much of what we value and love.

for everything you did and for the mighty battle you fought, we thank you. You were a most amazing woman and your legacy remains.
8:43 am edt 

Sunday, August 28, 2016

Re: PBG

"What the hell is going on with the PBG board of directors, they seem to be a bunch of egotistical, power hungry nobody's that seem to be more interested in themselves while us as members are left holding the bag."

You know, darling, there is no mystery to the PBG Board.  They are just community members like you who, on a rotating basis, give up their time to try to contribute what they can and do their best for the organization and the community.  No evil lurking there. No secret society membership or anything like that. It's not the Skull and Bones Society. Most of the board changes every year - they are looking for new board members for next year RIGHT NOW.  You, yes even YOU with your bitchy attitude, can volunteer for next year's board
10:11 am edt 

Re: New York Times - Artists studios
                                         
As to Artists Studios--well

there were never that many and if you wait for Ted Malone--Mr. Developer--to provide many an artist's studio--oh, well, wait for the last coming.

I remember one artist studio linked to the Fine Arts Center linked to Ted Malone's Meadows whatever--Farms or Lands--all rustic. Polly Burnell did get one artist studio for two years and after that--nothing!!

It all disappeared.

This is what developers do. and sadly this is what towns like Provincetown agree to  their detriment.

In a year or tow--the developer like Ted Malone makes big bucks and the promises die soon after.

this man destroyed so much of Provincetown and he is not done. Nelson Avenue will see even more destruction through his "promises" that are horrendous for all of us.


10:08 am edt 

Re: Harbor Hill Resort Bankruptcy

Why aren't you talking about Harbor Hill time share resort?
My poor friends. The Harbo Hill timeshare is bankrupt, the staff left, they haven't been paid. People own there and set their vacation sights on being there..but now the place is closed down.

The staff hasn't been paid, the person in charge absconded with vats of the owner's money..and now it is pandemonium.

I guess that the town will buy the place and turn it into affordable housing. What a tragic end to it all.
10:05 am edt 

Harbor Hill Resort Bankruptcy

The staff gave folks the keys and walked off. Harbor Hill Time Share resort is over. How sad for my friends who are owners.
10:03 am edt 

Saturday, August 27, 2016

Re: White Party

The White party always has two lines: one for ticket holders and one for those that wish to purchase a ticket at the gate.
9:09 am edt 

Re: Hillary Clinton - Issue of Trust ?

 
I Don't get this Issue of Trust with Hillary Clinton

what is the issue? I trust her and why not? I trusted her when she was Secretary of state and find she did a better job than Kerry. She is dedicated and has done great work in all positions she holds.

Hillary Clinton is quite trustworthy and she is incredibly qualified to be president. so, really, what is the problem? rather fabricated I think.

What do they mean by trust? She is not an intimate friend that we "trust." she is a politician who is dedicated to governmental work and to doing the people's work. It is not easy but she had done for decades.

she is who I want in the Oval Office. Experience. Knowledge. Intelligence and qualified.
9:08 am edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"I read it as funny and ironic. Maybe you need more of that sot of fun in life. He was, as they say, "reading" all of you..."

Sure. The omnipotent Mark Hatch, welcoming residents and visitors alike with a royal wave and sardonic smile. Or, he could just be your everyday narcissist, grabbing the spotlight wherever it shines. He's a clown, however you try to spin it.
9:05 am edt 

Re: New York Times

Artists studios

There will always be people who cheat the system, most do not.
9:04 am edt 

Re: New York Times

"Honey, I quoted the original post that said: "Can you name 3 artists under 30 who have had gallery shows this summer? Under 40 even?"

Some of the people on the list were under 30, some were under 40. If you're going to be patronizing at least be correct.
9:01 am edt 

Re: New York Times

"I actually laughed out loud when I read this post. I think everyone I know knows someone who holds the lease on one of these "artists studios" and rents it out to a non-artist. The idea sounds good on paper, but it'll never work in this town. People simply ignore the rules and nothing is ever done about it. I would LOVE for someone to go around and see how many actual artists are living in the Malone artists studios."

The same holds true for people who falsely reported lower income levels in order to qualify for the purchasing or renting of affordable housing.

These are taxpayer dollars that we're allocated by the residents in good faith.  There's always a percentage that figure out who how to cheat others.

Our administration has never implemented a monitoring system to ensure that those who rent/purchase affordable housing are complying with the requirements that had been set forth at the time of application.
9:00 am edt 

Friday, August 26, 2016

Josephine Del Deo

Josephine Del Deo gave so Much to the town

She was there protecting the dunes and protecting the dune shacks. she fought for those majestic dunes and for the little places that provide solitude and joy. she also understood the importance of preserving our history and through her we have the pasts records of structures in Provincetown. without her, there would be no Historic District and Provincetown would not have maintained its historic look.

Her passing is a great loss for Provincetown. Let her legacy continue!
10:41 am edt 

Re: New York Times

"Pretty simple to encourage year round artists here.  There are many, units, I believe 30+ units that are artists studios. They were mostly built by Ted Malone, community housing, and are quite large and have bathrooms.   Pretty easy to Revise zoning laws and designate live/work.   Just allow a small kitchen and of course come up with a way to regulate that they are really used year round.   Not rocket science."

I actually laughed out loud when I read this post. I think everyone I know knows someone who holds the lease on one of these "artists studios" and rents it out to a non-artist. The idea sounds good on paper, but it'll never work in this town. People simply ignore the rules and nothing is ever done about it. I would LOVE for someone to go around and see how many actual artists are living in the Malone artists studios.
7:48 am edt 

Re: New York Times

"The question was name artists under 40 who had shows here, not artist under 30 who live here who had shows here."

Honey, you just quoted the original post which clearly says "name three artists under 30." 
7:46 am edt 

Thursday, August 25, 2016

Tedeschi's

Anyone know what is going on with those barriers ?  My understanding is that they are permanent.

Why would the town allow this or those type of barriers - what an eye sore !!

11:28 am edt 

BOS Decision - No Fall Town Meeting

No Fall special town Meeting? that is Great

But why is the posting so tiny, I can hardly read it. Amen to this decision. but how a bout a larger print for the former posting on not having a fall town meeting.
11:25 am edt 

Re: White Party

So, the White party is sold out...no tix at gate. Many are now left out. Back in the 80's it was open to all.
11:24 am edt 

Re: Proposed Email Policy - Town Manager Invasive Absurdity!

Proposed Email Policy

If you are using a computer that is not personally owned by you, you have no right to privacy. Computers where you are employed (or use) and what you type on them, are the property of the employer. It is a common practice of companies to check emails, especially if you work where productivity counts.

If you are conducting business on your computer relating to your employment, you have no reason for concern.
9:30 am edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"The Fincom Chair's role, when not running a meeting, is to do whatever socialization he wants to, with whomever he wants to."   Mark Hatch, referring to himself in the third person."


I read it as funny and ironic. Maybe you need more of that sot of fun in life. He was, as they say, "reading" all of you. I enjoyed seeing everyone in the town manager's car. They seemed to be having a great time, and that what we want our town to project, not the hateful dribble that is spewed on here. Some of you people have small lives, it seems. Thank god you have this outlet or who knows what you'd be doing.
9:28 am edt 

So, At Base, You are But a Republican

So Oastie Rogers Whatever, vote for Trump. Here is quite the confluence--a word you would understand--between you and Vincent Currier.

So both you--forget all the         , just vote for Trump and leave us at peace.

You don't like Hillary; you have problems with her--who the hell cares. Vote your Repulican base and that is the end of it.

Please, don't try to rationalize your ridiculous vote. Just do it and shut up!
9:22 am edt 

Re: New York Times

Pretty simple to encourage year round artists here.  There are many, units, I believe 30+ units that are artists studios. They were mostly built by Ted Malone, community housing, and are quite large and have bathrooms.   Pretty easy to Revise zoning laws and designate live/work.   Just allow a small kitchen and of course come up with a way to regulate that they are really used year round.   Not rocket science.
9:19 am edt 

Re: Route 6

Does anyone else feel we have a police state on route 6 in and out of town?  Always someone pulled over.  All in the supposed name of safety, which  it isn't achieving at all.
9:18 am edt 

Re: New York Times

"Also, most of these artists do NOT make their home here." 

Exactly- they can't afford it. Even in the winter-


9:15 am edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"And, btw, I'm gay."

Doesn't mean your also not homophobic.

Hope this helps.
9:12 am edt 

Re: An Observation

Amen. Thank you for pointing this out. Agreed and seconded.
9:09 am edt 

Re: New York Times

"New York Times: Art Scene  Ok, I'll bite.  Can you name 3 artists under 30 who have had gallery shows this summer? Under 40 even?"


The question was name artists under 40 who had shows here, not artist under 30 who live here who had shows here.

I'm not arguing that things are great here for young artists. The galleries and PAAM obviously need to do more. But it's not like they aren't here. The Times didn't mention them, but that's not their faults.
9:01 am edt 

Wednesday, August 24, 2016

A Question

It seems every time I submit a concern it never appears.  Why is that?
9:46 am edt 

BOS Decision - No Fall Town Meeting
 
Well, Is there a change Afoot? No Fall town Meeting  Finally a decision that was arrived at rationally. this makes so much sense, in spite Eric Yingling's insistence that it be held. Little sense in his thinking but much sense in town manager's position that we hold state of the "nation" meetings focused on main issues for the April town meeting.  And the other selectmen agreed. a sane and rational decision.  Maybe there is hope!
9:39 am edt 

Re: New York Times
 
                                         

"New York Times: Art Scene  Ok, I'll bite.  Can you name 3 artists under 30 who have had gallery shows this summer? Under 40 even?"

"Sure. Here are the ones off the top of my head:
 
Jicky Schnee
Juan Pablo Echeverri
Zehra Khan
Brian Einersen
Trevor Mikkula
Abbie Wanamaker
Maryscha Schultz
Colin McGuire
Julian Cardinal's
Meg Ly"


Not familiar with all of these artists, but I do know for a fact that several listed here are NOT under 30. Also, most of these artists do NOT make their home here. Ditto for the performers (and organizers) of the Afterglow festival.

As far as the "performance artists" you speak of, the Crown and Anchor is hardly an art gallery.
9:08 am edt 

Tuesday, August 23, 2016

Re: PBG

"Thank you for helping me to make a decision about the PBG. You are right spending 400 dollars on an organization, that for me offers nothing, is silly. Good bye PBG."


If it took this blog to help you make that business decision it doesn't say much about your business acumen.
10:27 pm edt 

Re: New York Times

"New York Times: Art Scene  Ok, I'll bite.  Can you name 3 artists under 30 who have had gallery shows this summer? Under 40 even?"

Sure. Here are the ones off the top of my head:

Jicky Schnee
Juan Pablo Echeverri
Zehra Khan
Brian Einersen
Trevor Mikkula
Abbie Wanamaker
Maryscha Schultz
Colin McGuire
Julian Cardinal's
Meg Ly

Maybe if you didn't know this, you're part of the problem.

That list doesn't include performance artists with their own shows, like Elle's Variety Show, or the plethora of amazing young artists who will be here during the Afterglow Festival. I can keep going on and on, but I think I've proven my point.
9:24 pm edt 

Re: Proposed Email Policy - Town Manager Invasive Absurdity!

Email policy

Gee, do you think it's too late to stop the bullying?  I think it is.
9:21 pm edt 

Re: Proposed Email Policy - Town Manager Invasive Absurdity!

Town Email Policy

It is part of normal supervision of employees to monitor work flow and all use of town owned property.  I know of no company that promises employees any degree of privacy when using work equipment for private communication.  If the town manager were somehow reading emails on employees private servers or other equipment, that would be illegal and immoral.  But, using tax payers provided equipment for private communication is wrong. When working for the town people should not be sending or receiving private communications on town owned equipment. They should be working. Of course, there are emergencies when telephone calls are totally appropriate.  Many companies no longer allow the use of mobile phones in the workplace.  Essential contact can be made through the town system. 

I would like to hear some well reasoned arguments on this subject.  Employee right to privacy using public time and equipment is not one of them.
9:20 pm edt 

An Observation

The top of this page says "Welcome to My PACC web site! Our goal is to educate, promote and encourage citizen participation in town government. Your support is critical to this effort. Together we can all make a difference."

Look at that nice lofty goal that this web site is completely failing at.

All I ever see here is people ranting about things they don't like. Where's the call for people to get involved and work on solutions? Most of the posts are made-up "facts", rumors, innuendo, and unfounded speculation. This does the exact opposite of the stated goal -- it fosters a hostile environment of distrust and discourages people from participating in town government!

The repeated personal attacks against town employees and volunteer board members is really shameful.

If you don't like what's going on in town, get involved and change it.
9:18 pm edt 

Re: PBG

Thank you for helping me to make a decision about the PBG. You are right spending 400 dollars on an organization, that for me offers nothing, is silly. Good bye PBG.
9:13 pm edt 

Re: New York Times

"That was a problem with the article, not the town. There are tons of young people here making art and looking for recognition."

Yes, but one thing that IS a problem with the town is it's reluctance to show and/or support younger artists. The museum only gives shows to well established, mostly older artists and most galleries are unwilling to give a young, "unproven" artist a chance. It's no wonder young artists don't settle here - they're not really given a fair shake. The Provincetown art establishment only wants to show work that they know will sell or that has already garnered substantial recognition. Nobody seems willing to take a chance on new talent. Provincetown is resting on it's laurels artistically. That's one reason why, despite the quaint picture the NY Times painted, we'll probably never be a relevant arts community again.
9:11 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"If you think Grindr is somehow still taboo, you're not really in tune with the operations of the real world today. Or if you think Grindr is somehow taboo but all the straight apps aren't, you're just being homophobic."

No. I understand boundaries. Professional and personal. And, btw, I'm gay. Hope this helps.
9:06 pm edt 

Monday, August 22, 2016

Re: New York Times
Art Scene  Ok, I'll bite.  Can you name 3 artists under 30 who have had gallery shows this summer?
                                              Under 40 even? 
3:00 pm edt 

Re: Proposed Email Policy - Town Manager Invasive Absurdity!

This Newly Proposed E-Mail Policy is Absurd and Dangerous

Thanks for letting us know what is being proposed. I too find this quite scary. If you have a town manager who can't lead, then he can just be a bully and use this policy to watch everyone--like Big Brother!! It is a 1984 type of policy. and here's what also problematic: David Panagore is not the boss--the Board of Selectmen are his boss. and yet--here he could read all their e-mails and monitor the group that he reports to.

There's something insidious here.

Will the selectmen be this stupid to ok this spy policy on them???

They will answer that question tonight. This is on their (or Panagore's) agenda for tonight's BOS meeting. Who is the boss here?

Who is who?
11:56 am edt 

Re: Proposed Email Policy - Town Manager Invasive Absurdity!

Email policy

Every company I've ever worked for made it clear that emails generated on company networks are company property and there is no presumed privacy. This has been confirmed by numerous court rulings. Don't want your emails read by a supervisor? Then don't use your organization's network. Same rationale applies to government workers. You are being paid to do a supervised job - your work is not a matter of your privacy.
11:24 am edt 

Proposed Email Policy - Town Manager Invasive Absurdity!

If I Were A Selectman--But I am Not--I would Be Quite Leary of the Proposed New E-mail Policy

I believe in the Freedom of Information Act. I believe in transparency. However, I do not believe in snooping nor in eavesdropping. Yet that is what is being proposed in the "new and improved" town e-mail policy.

The Town Manager or the "appropriately authorized network administrators may monitor network traffic." So we can have the town Manager looking into any and all e-mails that selectmen sent to each other or to town residents; and certain staff, these "authorized network administrators"--that could be almost anyone you can imagine--can also be "monitoring" e-mails, discussions, positions or problems they are concerned with. It also means that Town manager and these "network administrators" can also be monitoring town employees--all of them--to see what they are communicating, what they are upset about, what they are proposing. This is not about the Freedom of Information Act. this is serious and about control of information and control of town employees and also--the Board of Selectmen.

Let me read the most problematic paragraph that comes up tonight for a vote:

"In addition to any freedom of information request, the Town acting either through the town Manager of the board of Selectmen retains the right to inspect any e-mails sent or received through a "provicentown-m.gov" e-mail address, including any attachments to e-mails." This in itself should raise red flags!!

And it continues: "While instances should be rare, the Town does reserve the right to review all public records including e-mails in pursuit of legitimate needs for supervision, control, and the efficient and proper operation of government." So any issue dealing with supervision or control or "the efficient and proper operation of government" can be used to look into and read town e-mails. this covers almost anything. Even trying to be more efficient! Or trying to be more Proper can trigger the rationale to read town employees and selectmen e-mails!!
access e-mails without authorization f rom the town Manager or pursuant to a vote of the board of Selectmen.

And further: "Official should be aware that appropriately authorized network administrators may monitor network traffic,
all it takes is the town Manager authorizing these "network administrators" and what we write, what you say, what you decide will be viewed and known by the town manager and those he appoints--perhaps David Gardner and Gloria McPherson to name only two. He could appoint ten or twenty or even the chair of some committee--his key people to spy on the town.

I find this proposed e-mail policy disturbing. This is  about control and it is invasive and destructive of trust.

I write this as a warning. If the Board of Selectmen vote to approve this proposed e-mail policy, they will be their own fools!
10:44 am edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

Welcoming the town

I didn't know that was the function of the finance committee Chair. Thanks for letting me know! So informative.
I guess like the town manager both are cheerleaders-in-chief.
10:09 am edt 

Re: New York Times

"Then again, there is precious little left of Provincetown as an artistic community.  I'm sure you all caught the NY Times article about how people are still making art here - the youngest person name-checked in the article is an artist in her 60s."

That was a problem with the article, not the town. There are tons of young people here making art and looking for recognition.
10:08 am edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"But puzzle me this: where else in the US, say Boston, NYC, Seattle or Chicago, could an appointed town official be granted a free pass to post on Facebook about Grindr, a known hook-up site?"

LOL. How old are you? Welcome to 2016.

15% of all American adults, gay and straight, use dating apps to meet people for dates or other romantic reasons. 29% of Americans know someone who has met a spouse or long-term partner via online dating. And 27% of young adults use them. (Real statistics, people, not just unfounded opinions. Know how to find them?)

If you think Grindr is somehow still taboo, you're not really in tune with the operations of the real world today. Or if you think Grindr is somehow taboo but all the straight apps aren't, you're just being homophobic.
10:05 am edt 

Re: PBG

"Is the PBG necessary?"

If you don't see the value of the PBG to the town or to your business then don't join.  I see it as a benefit to my business and more so to the town, that's why I'm a member.  It's right for me.
10:01 am edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"The Fincom Chair's role, when not running a meeting, is to do whatever socialization he wants to, with whomever he wants to."   Mark Hatch, referring to himself in the third person.

Analysis by Elsa Ronningstam, professor of psychology at Harvard Medical School and author of Identifying and Understanding the Narcissistic Personality:

Referring to yourself in the third person creates distance between "I" and "he." So if you have an exaggerated view of how great you are, you could be using this distance to make yourself even bigger. Or, if you've achieved major success suddenly, using the third person could be a way to adjust to the bigger role that's been assigned to you. It's a way to enlarge yourself to fit that role.

Yep. Lol.

9:59 am edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

The commentator sees the role of the FinCom to be diminished.
9:55 am edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"You miss the whole point of Hatch's existence. Only a fraction of his rather ordinary life is focused on Town finances.   It's the limelight he seeks. He's finally one of the movers and shakers, or that's his perception."


You said it perfectly.  Hatch thinks of himself as a town leader or 'town representative' as he puts it.  Only he thinks that highly of himself.

I don't care about his inflated ego, what I do care about is my taxes.
9:53 am edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

Mr. Hatch how exactly do you or The Gay parade make Provincetown a better place for us to live? You are a well known        that does what he can to help his own and the special interest groups and the Gay parade costs the tax payers money in over time and in special details. Not to mention the real hard workers the DPW have to work even harder to clean up the pig sty that the parade turns our streets into for the next couple of days. Sure it brings some business more Income but how does it or you help the rest of us that couldn't work because they shout down streets and especially the pier and  lost around 8 grand because you people want to take over and party. So how again exactly does it or you help the honest decent hardworking heterosexual residents that don't own businesses in the town? I'll answer that for you it and you doesn't you cost us money!
9:52 am edt 

Sunday, August 21, 2016

Re: Carnival

Carnival was a dreadfully dull affair again this year.  So many repetitive floats that just highlighted the banality of the occasion and of Provincetown in general.  All that fuss about the Grand Marshall on the Provincetown Community Facebook page and he may as well have been invisible.  A big virtual hug though to the Act UP representatives for keeping it real. 

When I read below about how it has essentially been turned into a corporate, money-making endeavor it's hard to be surprised that the creativity has been sapped.

Then again, there is precious little left of Provincetown as an artistic community.  I'm sure you all caught the NY Times article about how people are still making art here - the youngest person name-checked in the article is an artist in her 60s.
10:07 am edt 

PBG
 
"Why is PBG necessary?"  
 
 
Good question,why is the PBG really necessary? There was no VSB when it was created. The VSB could easily take over the few events that the PBG organizes.
10:03 am edt 

Re: Mark Hatch
 
"The FinCom chair's role is not to be best friends with the town manager and the Selectmen. The chair has lost sight of what the chair's role is and looks to be too intertwined to provide an objective review of financial decisions."
 
The Fincom Chair's role, when not running a meeting, is to do whatever socialization he wants to, with whomever he wants to. Furthermore, the Fincom Chair was helping to represent the Town as welcoming, fun, and happy during the Carnival Parade...shaking people's hands, wishing them a Happy Carnival, and sharing in the fun along with other Town Representatives. The Fincom Chair invites the commenter to submit an application for the open Alternate slot on the Committee where, instead of making anonymous swipes at volunteers who try to make the Town a better place, can make their opinions known on camera and on tape. Otherwise the Fincom Chair will feel free to ignore this person telling him what his job is.
 
Mark Hatch
10:01 am edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"The FinCom chair's role is not to be best friends with the town manager and the Selectmen.  The chair has lost sight of what the chair's role is and looks to be too intertwined to provide an objective review of financial decisions."

You miss the whole point of Hatch's existence. Only a fraction of his rather ordinary life is focused on Town finances.

It's the limelight he seeks. He's finally one of the movers and shakers, or that's his perception.

But puzzle me this: where else in the US, say Boston, NYC, Seattle or Chicago, could an appointed town official be granted a free pass to post on Facebook about Grindr, a known hook-up site?

Nowhere else but Provincetown, my friends. Nowhere.
9:59 am edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

How Right You Are on the Chair of Finn com

"The role and the mandate of the finance committee is to be the financial advocate for us the town voters--not to be the puppets for the town manager nor the BOS. Finance should be there to be doing oversight for the financial health of the town. They should be our voices--not the voice of town staff, town manager, nor advocates for town agendas."


Is this so hard to understand? The past finance committee fully understood this. This one--is more than suspect.

Smile away, Mr. Chair and there goes our objective financial voice.
9:56 am edt 

Re: Tree Maintenance

If the town did it a few years ago, it's time to do it again. Trees grow and some of the dangers that weren't addressed then have become worse. Thinking in terms of the possibility of a hurricane (we're due) or the weight of snow on some of these branches over the roads and power lines and the havoc they will bring once down, an once of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
9:54 am edt 

Commercial Street - Carnival

A big thanks to whoever thought it was a good idea to cover Commercial St. with glitter during the carnival parade. It sure makes the street look extra trashy. We'll be cleaning that mess up for months to come.
9:53 am edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"We had a total blast yesterday with David, Cheryl and Tom. Raphael even jumped in halfway through to share in the fun!"

Reminds me of the town moderator and Fincom at Georges-
9:52 am edt 

Re: Vincent Currier

Ok. So then let's stop spending time on this page talking and criticizing him. Just move on and take care of your personal feuds somewhere else. Same with the weird Wayne Martin stuff. 
9:50 am edt 

Re: PBG

The previous ED was an amazing asset to the organization and did an amazing job with the PBG and putting it on track. He got more sponsors than ever before, paid off the mortgage, put money into savings, had the highest number of members ever and had two of the most profitable carnivals in history. He even put together a financial packet together and gave it out to us at the annual meetings for all to see. As for him posting pics and going on vacation everyone has that ability in there job and given the fact he could work remotely your accusations are unfounded. Perhaps you should have all the facts before you start spreading false rumors.
9:49 am edt 

Friday, August 19, 2016

Re: PBG

Why is PBG necessary?
11:07 pm edt 

Re: Vincent Currier

A leader of the community he is not.  Generally difficult to be a mover and shaker and a recluse. Currier is an intellectually stunted, woman hating pig who thinks his cliched, tired post disguise his emotional instability and innate stupidity. Funny though, Selectman Donegan pays attention him, both suffer DunningKruger effect- 'inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately. '
11:04 pm edt 

Mark Hatch

Mark Hatch:
"We had a total blast yesterday with David, Cheryl and Tom. Raphael even jumped in halfway through to share in the fun! And Tom's shirt's battery held out until the end! Hope everyone we saw had a great time at the parade yesterday!"


The FinCom chair's role is not to be best friends with the town manager and the Selectmen.  The chair has lost sight of what the chair's role is and looks to be too intertwined to provide an objective review of financial decisions.

Reminds me of when the town planner first moved to town and less than six months later she was sleeping with a Selectman.  Bad judgement on both their parts
11:02 pm edt 

Re: Delivery Trucks - PPD

Let's see a truck that is not supposed to be on Commericial St. at that time of day per order of the taxpayers of this town has the right away when it hits a legally parked car... another genius heard from. So you used to hit cars with your truck and drive off and the police did nothing about it knew about it is that what your saying? Why don't you give us the names of the officers that failed to enforce the law all those times you committed a felony.
10:57 pm edt 

Re: Delivery Trucks - PPD

Hey DUDE try putting down the pipe and pay attention I WAS PARKED LEGALLY!!!. In a spot the the the store owners and their employees are allowed to park. What's not legal is Hit&Run, leaving the scene of an accident and distracted driving!!! THC kills brain cells and impairs cognitive reasoning it's never to late to stop.
10:55 pm edt 

Here We Go Again

Now it Looks As If the Yingling and the Panagore Wants a Fall town Meeting

We need only one town meeting. Here they are and what will they bring back? Winslow farms!! Housing zoning by-law again and again. and I am sure money for a newly designed location for the police station. all is well on Shankpainter road and it should stay there.

always some new plan, some new proposal--and they fail and fail.

Just try running the town and managing it as best as you can. That in itself would be an improvement.
10:54 pm edt 

Re: PBG

The previous ED was an amazing asset to the organization and did an amazing job with the PBG and putting it on track. He got more sponsors than ever before, paid off the mortgage, put money into savings, had the highest number of members ever and had two of the most profitable carnivals in history. He even put together a financial packet together and gave it out to us at the annual meetings for all to see. As for him posting pics and going on vacation everyone has that ability in there job and given the fact he could work remotely your accusations are unfounded. Perhaps you should have all the facts before you start spreading false rumors.
10:52 pm edt 

Re: PBG

"Membership to the PBG is not free, it costs money....400 bucks for nothing".


IMHO, anyone who joins a club and pays for it without having the benefits spelled out BEFORE shelling out your hard earned cash is a fool.  I wouldn't.  And I wouldn't wait a year before asking for a refund if those benefits never came to be. 
10:48 pm edt 

Re: PBG

Membership to the PBG is not free, it costs money. I opted out because they were unable to explain to me what benefit was received by being a member. Instead of promoting events to benefit the business community at large, they should focus on it's members a lot more. 400 bucks for nothing.
3:32 pm edt 

Re: PBG

CARNIVAL 2016

I want to give a shout-out to Acting PBG-Director Eddie Atwood, the PBG Board of Directors and ALL the volunteers who helped make this year's Carnival a success.  Sure, there were some glitches, which I am sure someone here will bitch about, but overall, things went pretty good, at least from my viewpoint (I am the photographer).  People attending the events came (and left) with great attitudes and hopefully spent their money in town to support our local economy.  Davey Wavey's participation as Grand Marshall did not destroy the town as some feared nor do I believe we are the laughing stock that others predicted.  Next years theme: Gods and Goddesses, has already been chosen, so people need to gather together and help out however you can to make 2017 a banner year. We are an artistic community; let us use our (pun intended: God Given) talents to bring positivity back to this wonderful yearly event.
3:31 pm edt 

Re: PBG

I am not a board member, just concerned with the statements made in the opening comments of the complaint.  In the face of the loss of the ED, they have been working their asses of trying to keep things running.  How does this make them "a bunch of egotistical, power hungry nobody's"?  Re the financials, ask them to put it on the agenda for the next meeting and be there to make sure it happens, if you are that concerned.  I have no issues when people have problems with the management, but name-calling is just childish. 
12:03 pm edt 

An Observation

The enormity of the venom in the cast of characters here really is pathetic.  What empty, miserable lives you must have to spend so much time tearing other people apart...how utterly pitiful, petty and illiterate you are.
12:01 pm edt 

Re: PBG

The PBG unfortunately had a previous ED who failed miserably in paying attention to details, lacked the professional skill set to manage 2 events in a calendar year. He left the PBG in a mess. The new Board is trying their best to right the "ship", the past Board did not truly "keep" an eye on things over the past few years. It is tough to have volunteers to run NON profit organizations and it is tough for local businesses to assist the organization when they themselves are stretched thin in the busy summer months. The previous ED spent more time on cruises, Palm Springs and in FL than working. He posted on face book every day from a gym rather than be in the office.
The new "interim" ED is in over his head, trying to do the best he can given the situation he is in. I have heard the New Board is interviewing the position for new ED. Let's Hope it is a new chapter to be written. Every business in town should be very grateful to the PBG for the years it has produced Carnival and many other great events. Volunteer you may be able to assist in providing your knowledge to make the Guild successful for years to come.
12:00 pm edt 

Re: Vincent Currier

Ok. So why are people on this blog obsessed with him? Why is he always brought up here like he's a mover and shaker. You'd think he was a leader of the community somehow by the way you all talk about him.
11:58 am edt 

Re: Delivery Trucks - PPD

"No parking on Commercial from Pearl to Winthop huh where do you live? You must close your eyes when you drive through town. On any given day there has to be at 25 to 50 sometimes more cars parked on Commercial .  .  ."

Doesn't make it legal dude, you were still illegally parked.  Take a little responsibility for your actions
11:56 am edt 

Re: Delivery Trucks - PPD

If you were parked

If you were parked in the center of town on commercial street this time of year you were not parked legally. The truck had the right of way.

I did delivery on that street and the police always sided with me when ther was an issue. 
11:53 am edt 

Section 8 Housing

SECTION 8 HOUSING AND FALSE HOPE

The housing agencies on the Cape must be truthful to its clients who spend years waiting for a section 8 voucher and tell them that once they get it--they will have a hard time finding an apartment.

What landlord is going to rent a one bedroom apartment in Provincetown for $950 a  month? Perhaps in Hyannis it is possible--but not in Provincetown.

On top of that, you must allow inspectors in once a year if you want to be paid. Perhaps the affordable housing units accept section 8-but how many who win the housing lottery have a section 8 certificate?

Something just isn't right that 20 year citizens of Provincetown have to leave town because the affordable housing goes to relative new comers.

Come to Provincetown and even sleep on a couch for a season and apply for housing--you may get it. All that is required is that you have a job in Provincetown. That is All.
11:52 am edt 

Thursday, August 18, 2016

Re: PBG

Regarding PBG. I've done my fair share of helping and working along side them as they put on events. As for monthly meeting yes I attend and the answer is no they have not given financial information since before the previous ED left, it's been asked for but nothing has been given. You sound like a board member perhaps you can enlighten us as to what's going on and how the financials look?
8:25 am edt 

Re: Delivery Trucks - PPD

No parking on Commercial from Pearl to Winthop huh where do you live? You must close your eyes when you drive through town. On any given day there has to be at 25 to 50 sometimes more cars parked on Commercial in the summer between those two streets and not one gets ticketed or towed there are plenty of leagal spots to park, try sticking to the Beacon with these type or nonsensical comments.
8:24 am edt 

Re: Delivery Trucks - PPD

I was parked legally in front of the business owners property where I was picking up one of the employees like I have done for the past ten years and where scores of other business owners park! Thats right instead of addessing the problem just anonymously shoot your mouth off like a coward! The truck driver committed a felony and several misdemeanors and did not receive one citation but by all means you             I should get a ticket! I probably should pay for the damage to his truck too right! Sounds like something              or one of his flunkies would say.
8:22 am edt 

Wednesday, August 17, 2016

Re: Trucks - PPD

Almost all deliveries are made between Pearl and Winslow.  No parking between Pearl and Winslow April through October.   They should have given you a ticket.  Quit your bitchin!
11:41 pm edt 

Re: Vincent Currier

"Who is Vincent Currier and why do you guys always talk about him?"

Most of the town ignores him. But since you asked: A misogynist blight on the town, who many would like to see dislodged. But, like a barnacle that dates back to the Pilgrims arrival, he isn't easily scraped off. He has insinuated himself into town politics, but was immediately recognized as a know-it-all washashore. Additionally, Vincent garnered a total of 48 votes in a town election, dismally falling short of support, much to his surprise. Since women (and almost everybody else) declined to vote for him in droves, this may be the root of his anger.  
11:39 pm edt 

Re: Vincent Currier

Who is Vincent Currier and why do you guys always talk about him?
9:07 am edt 

Re: PBG

"What the hell is going on with the PBG board of directors, they seem to be a bunch of egotistical, power hungry nobody's that seem to be more interested in themselves while us as members are left holding the bag. Lack of leadership, loss of sponsors and one can only imagine what's happening with the bank accounts. I think it's time we ask for a full financial picture to see what's what. Let's hope carnival numbers are as good as last year, but I have my doubts."

It is so easy to bash an organization by NOT saying anything constructive, like the writer above is attempting to accomplish.  Can you please give us a definition of what you mean when you call them egotistical and power hungry? Or on what basis you feel they are more interested in themselves? And tell us what bag you are holding for them. There is always some turmoil when a change of guard happens, but what specifically are you talking about?  If, as a member, you attend the monthly meetings, financials are discussed and account expenditures and balances are always provided. Did you, the writer, lift a finger to assist with the Carnival prep and do you regularly volunteer to help with any of the other projects designed to help raise funds to help promote member businesses?  PLEASE TELL US THE ANSWERS. 
8:32 am edt 

I am Not Vincent Currier

The gay population in this town can be so hateful when it comes to politics. I am not Vincent Currier. I do not like Hillary Clinton and do not plan to vote for her in the fall. That being said, for a community that is supposed to be accepting, saying this out loud almost always results in disbelief and hostility. I am not a woman hater for saying this  I just do not want to vote for the woman named HRC.
7:57 am edt 

Delivery Trucks - PPD

"So, your saying you were illegally parked on Commercial St and somebody hit you?  Why didn't the police give you a ticket?"

What an inflammatory and downright stupid response to this person's post. Why would you assume the person was parked illegally? Where in the post does it say that? You are clearly trolling and looking to start an argument.

This happens constantly on this blog. People will quote a few lines from someone's post and then respond with "Now let me get this straight..." and then proceed to twist the person's words around in an obvious and pathetic attempt to start a fight.

Some people really need to get a life.
7:55 am edt 

Tree Maintenance

Many years ago (maybe 10 to 15 years ago) the town used to maintain the trees and also brush that encroached on roadways and sidewalks.  Pruning and cutting back overgrown branches and bushes was done by the DPW and I think an actual tree specialist was brought in to care for larger trees.  This practice is no longer done by the town and the result is overgrown bushes and tree limbs that are occasionally blown down during high winds.  I imagine the DPW stopped doing this to save money.
 

7:53 am edt 

David Panagore - Town Manager

He does not get paid a huge salary to let the assistant TM and other town staff to the job he is supposed to be doing. We as town know that he is less than honest that was proven by what he told us time and time again in the failed Winslow Farms deal, not to mention his laughable attempt at covering up for the police ineptitude that were involved in the so called TD bomb threat video. He has yet to do anything about any of the complaints that have been set before him and has issued a directive to all town employees not to talk to tax payers about town going ons or issues. The only subjects that we're are not immediately privy or entitled to know are executive session meetings and certain litigation everything else we are entitled to know. Why is the TM constantly at the harbor masters office is it that he likes his leisurly chauffeured rides around the harbor that he has been seen enjoying on several occasions this summer? It seems to be a regular thing for him to do now on nice days.  Is it any wonder why he just gave such great cudos to the harbor masters staff!  Not to mention he lets town employees, staff, board members and committee members who represent our town embarrass it on social media something he specifically said he would not tolerate, I guess he meant it depends who you are when he stated that. No my good taxpayers this man is not the person that he was billed to be we should cut our losses and send him packing and let's try looking for a honest local family man the next time.
7:51 am edt 

PBG

What the hell is going on with the PBG board of directors, they seem to be a bunch of egotistical, power hungry nobody's that seem to be more interested in themselves while us as members are left holding the bag. Lack of leadership, loss of sponsors and one can only imagine what's happening with the bank accounts. I think it's time we ask for a full financial picture to see what's what. Let's hope carnival numbers are as good as last year, but I have my doubts.
7:47 am edt 

Delivery Trucks - PPD

Where did you see on that post that the author was parked illegally simpleton?!  How could any rational intelligent human being read that post and come to the conclusion that the author said he or she was parked illegally or was anywhere at fault for the accident? The law states you must stop and make and effort when damage is done to property to contact the owner and if you can't you must leave a note! Also no matter if a vehicle is parked lawfully or unlawfully it is always the vehicle in motions fault if the driver strikes it! and once again the delivery vehicle was not allowed any where in that area at that time of day period and is certainly even before 11am supposed to be paying attention to the road especially on Commercial St, and it is the police's responsibility to be enforcing this bylaw.  The driver and the are is lucky that it wasn't a baby carriage the he hit. Try paying attention to the issues if your going to respond to posts or just don't bother, either try!
  looking up the MGL's and bylaws or just go look for Pokemon on your phone instead of making ignorant uninformed comments.
7:44 am edt 

Tuesday, August 16, 2016

Vincent Courier

Vincent courier or whatever is a sick man

He is such a woman hater. I am disgusted by his comments. Just shut up mister. You must have deep=seeded problems with your mother and grandmother. hatred is your middle name.

I don't care you who vote for. I don't care who you are. but refrain from hating women. We are all offended by you.
10:18 pm edt 

Re: Observation on Local Trees

OP here. I knew I'd get a response from someone like that. Where in my original post did I mention I'm afraid of trees and all trees are dangerous? Have you been to the places I mentioned to look at the menacing limbs and the huge tree looming precariously over the Community Center? I like the trees around town, I'm not afraid of them but I do wish some attention would be given to the branches that very possibly come down in a snow event or hurricane event. Some of them could come down any time now. A little prevention goes a long way. Think of the time and damage that could occur if these issues are left to their own demise.
10:15 pm edt 

Delivery Trucks - PPD

"Yes while parked on Commercial St Saturday afternoon approx 1pm a big box truck ran into my vehicle .  . "
 
So, your saying you were illegally parked on Commercial St and somebody hit you?  Why didn't the police give you a ticket?
10:10 pm edt 

Re: Observation on Local Trees

"When is the DPW or the tree warden (if we have one) going to do something about the obviously overgrown or dangerous trees and limbs across some of the streets in town?"

Wow do we have some kinda weird stuff here.  How have you decided that a tree is dangerous?  Because it it there?  Think, please.  The only way to eliminate the possibility of falling limbs and trees, is to eliminate all trees.  Now, really, is that such a good idea?  We don't need strong hurricanes to cause arboreal damage.  Local thunderstorms and even wayward vehicles can wreak havoc.  Don't like trees?  scared of them?  Move to the desert.
2:15 pm edt 

Delivery Trucks - PPD

Can someone tell me why the police are not enforcing the town bylaws one of which states that there will be NO deliveries on Commercial St past 11.00 am in the summer months? If they were doing there jobs I would not have a vehicle that has thousands of dollars worth of damage to it not to mention losing thousands more in resale value!
Yes while parked on Commercial St Saturday afternoon approx 1pm a big box truck ran into my vehicle and took off if not for a nice women that waited for me to return I would have been shit out of luck! When the truck was located and the police called the truck driver said "he didn't stop and leave his info because he didn't want to lose his job", also when asked by me in the presence of an office how did he manage to hit my vehicle when there was plenty of room to get by he stated "that he got a call from his dispatcher and took his eyes off the road when he went to answer it". So now we have hit and run, leaving the scene and distracted driving not to mention he had no business traveling on that street at that time per order of the voters of this town. There was no ticket issued to the Truck driver and the officer ask me if I wanted him to make a report!!! If this wasn't disturbing enough this weekend the police commandeered the harbor masters boat and brought two civilians out on a call without vests and put them in harms way, this call was in the mooring field where there was a fight and firearms were reported to be in use and a threat of suicide by firearm  WTF !!!!. It is my understanding by talking to one of the harbor masters senior staff members they were not happy at all by this, also let us not forget the whole TD bank bomb threat fiasco and the way it was handled. Is the town manager and the BoS seriously asking us to pay for a new station for these incompetent amatures?

2:13 pm edt 

After Carnival

After Carnival we can refocus our efforts on the Town's real needs instead of pandering to the almighty tourist buck!
11:29 am edt 

Re: Sal's Place

People have a penchant for twisting stories to their advantage,like beating a dead horse! In this case it's re Sal's Restaurant "overcoming Diversity!" Yes,The owner did that & it was an expensive up hill fight that shouldn't have happened!
 
Once citizens found out via reports of her opponents using their positions on Town Boards to block her ever opening was when the Public went into the support & defense mode if Sal's! Some still don't know the owner but don't tolerate that kind of abuse here of honest,hard working entrepreneurs!
 
In truth,those who bought their condos there probably should have bought the whole complex & made more condos in the restaurant. They didn't but tried to circumvent their plan by using other political methods of abuse to block it until the license was void & not retrievable!
 
Matt Mulvey,a brilliant Bldg. Commissioner here locked horns with former Town Manager S. Lynn, when she refused him a salary increase! He immediately identified the problems that backfired on those trying to stop Sal's from opening!
 
The legal alternative was to award the license Ipso Pronto to avoid a major lawsuit to the Town! If I were Sal's owner,I would still file suit for my losses for this season by being blocked! To those who ruined The Home at Last bldg. next door,we will all adjust to that monstrosity w/o choice! The suggestion to them & all the opponents of Sal's  - try being civil & display peace & harmony to each other in the block, It's humbling to remember a truthful fact.
 
In the end when you all leave permanently,it all stays behind! Nervous breakdowns aren't worth it! PEACE is!
9:04 am edt 

Re: Sal's Place

"It nearly happened until, us, "the village idiots" saw what was going on & blocked the "blockers"!"

Neeto !!! Don't you just love a populist uprising.  Now maybe you can share the secret:  exactly how was this done?  Don't get me wrong, I love Sals and am glad that they finally opened and look ahead to a full season next year.  But, did a few emails to this site and a few letters to the banner, do this?
1:39 am edt 

Re: There is no Plan, no Vision. no Competency

 

Seriously, fire this housing specialist. Paying a 100 thousand dollars a year for this nonsense is stupid.Eric Yingling good job on the affordable housing "crisis". The previous town manager and BOS were able to get projects built without all the friction you love to create.

1:36 am edt 

Monday, August 15, 2016

Re: There is no Plan, no Vision. no Competency

But we have bike racks.
12:11 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place

Overcoming Adversity? Really?  you may have been screwed by the town, many have or maybe the town's not at fault and maybe the neighbors are to blame or the owner herself,  but to use the term 'overcoming adversity' dramatic and not really an adversity.
12:10 pm edt 

Re: There is no Plan, no Vision. no Competency

Why Sell the recreation building--Instead, First Clear Up the Affordable Housing Units at the Grace Gouveia Building

finish one project right--then and only then, move on to the second. Why try to sell the Recreation department building when all the problems for only three little affordable units is still not cleared up? Don't repeat the problems of the first but finish the deal and then go after a second project.

I wonder if any building that the town owns or wants to buy can be handled well. We have a VFW building being rented for nothing; we have the three affordable condo units up in the air; we have the old library building not being used wisely--VSB should not be there; and we are going to "sell"---or give away--the rec building.

Am I the only one who sees confusion here and misdirection?
10:24 am edt 

Re: Sal's Place - Overcoming Adversity

Why are people not understanding the game "people in authority" were playing with Sal's? It was a political block to stop her from ever opening! It nearly happened until, us, "the village idiots" saw what was going on & blocked the "blockers"! There are times when power & money doesn't matter! People caught up with their own self importance don't get it!! If they continue to live here it will be a lesson well learned!!
9:41 am edt 

Observation on Local Trees

When is the DPW or the tree warden (if we have one) going to do something about the obviously overgrown or dangerous trees and limbs across some of the streets in town? I normally drive if I'm in town but was the passenger the other day and had a chance to look around. Why is the huge branch across the road by 7 Conwell, the yellow house, still there? Why are the trees growing sideways out of the bank along Harry Kemp allowed to remain while they create a hazard sure to happen? There are huge limbs across the Bradford by Bangs St. and when is something going to be done with the HUGE tree overhanging the Community Center? They're all dangerous and could fall, possibly on someone and the town would be liable. Anyone?
9:40 am edt 

There is no Plan, no Vision. no Competency

I am confused. Could someone explain the Grace Gouveia Building Problem and Why we lost three affordable housing places?/

something is confusing or I am confused. What exactly happened here? could someone help me understand why these three units are now stuck in this odd position.
9:38 am edt 

There is no Plan, no Vision. no Competency

If we are planning to sell the old rec building have we checked to see if we have clear title?
9:35 am edt 

Sunday, August 14, 2016

Re: To be or Not to Be - That is the Question

Yes, the Cucumbers and the Big Squash Have spoken

and it is jibberish. It is non-sense and bull. I too can't figure out how another town project and another town building became such a mess. What a loss. and will they try this again with the rec building? so it seems. How much money will we lose on this one--and developers gain? And what can we expect on the priority of affordable housing?

More talk. Perhaps that is all. And we will probably give this building away like we did the others. Remember we sold the school building to Coastal Studies for only $800,000. We would have to spend three million to buy it back.

How many more crummy deals can one town make? Maybe we shouldn't ask!!
12:02 am edt 

Re: To be or Not to Be - That is the Question

Instead of gold Stars Maybe they Have given Him cucumbers and Zucchini

I look at the disaster of the Grace Gouveia building and wonder that anyone should get any stars. what a mess. And this is the BOs that is determined to get affordable housing for town residents and they can't even get these three units in order. Seems like there is no title issue for the market rate condos but a mess for the three affordable housing units. and where is our prize housing specialists on this one? It happened under her watch--she was in fact Acting Assistant Town Manager and then there was our Acting Town Manager Gardner and all I see here is an inability to get anything productive done. They will yell and scream how we don't support affordable housing and they can't even get these three units completed.

And we gave away the building for $710,000--and what did the town get? Developers did well and even sold the parking spaces. This building should have been kept--like the recreation building--and you find another cluster f--there is no plan. there is no vision. there is no competency.

The town leadership fails and disappoints. And no one is to blame? In fact, the stars are handed out as if we have no memory of failure after failure.

The cucumbers rule! The squash is afoot!
1:48 pm edt 

Re: To be or Not to Be - That is the Question

"For all you bashing the town manager I see from the banner that the BOS gave him a 22 out of 25 in their evaluation.

The cucumbers have spoken!"
 
Yeah. Brought to you by the same team that gave you the rave successes of Willow Farm, VFW and Grace Gouveia. What a combination of cucumbers and squash.
 
You  can't make this up.
11:15 am edt 

Re: To be or Not to Be - That is the Question
 
"Erik Yingling BOS Selectmen
.  .  .Erik? There's a more intelligent cucumber in my garden.  .  ."
 
For all you bashing the town manager I see from the banner that the BOS gave him a 22 out of 25 in their evaluation.

The cucumbers have spoken!
10:59 am edt 

Provincetown 365 - Keeping Your Eyes on the Prize
 
"You can watch their meetings on YouTube and it all seems pretty mundane. Bike racks, bike lanes, restoring the portraits on the wharf, ideas for expanding the Maushope senior housing... I don't see how any of their activity helps out any particular business."
  
Provncetown 365 is a creature of invention of the Town Planner and a few close associates.
It's purpose originally  was to insinuate itself into the fabric  of Provincetown development as a
quasi semi official body having the appearance of an officially sanctioned committee, when in reality
it had no established credentials.
 
Initial efforts on the part of  the Town  Planner incorporated the use of official government letterheads as well as the use of Town facilities. It was  and is an attempt by the Town Planner to  create a body which she could personally use to offset any opposition, official or private, to her plans to promote targeted development.
 
Even the Town Manager had to  remonstrate the Town Planners actions and ordered the cessation of the use of official  documents and facilities. It is apparent that McPherson has organized this small shill group of players to achieve a goal  of which most member have no knowledge.
 
The ultimate affect of this group is to provide McPherson with an organized group through which she  can manipulate decisions beyond her capacity as a town employee; even to the detriment of the Town Manager.
 
As in any shell game the key to solving the trick is not to be distracted by subterfuge, but to keep your  eyes on  the prize. 
 
10:46 am edt 

Sal's Place - Overcoming Adversity

Sal's Place is Great and Wonderful and so Delicious and yet why did Siobhan Carew have to go through so many town hoops to get to open? who can answer this/ why did town employees and especially Business Development--how odd a name--put so many roadblocks in her way? Why? And Who is really to blame?

Oh, yes, give the circus barker gold stars when business people are being asked to jump how high and he is simply a barker for others. the level he is asked to reach is so low that a mere child could succeed.

It is a strange place, that town hall, and even stranger employees.
10:04 am edt 

Re: Provincetown 365

The 365 group representing 365 days in the year are a non- entity group of citizens "bent on trying to reinvent the wheel!" They are not a town board authorized by a government body in Town or State, They meet & conjure ideas that they think could be for the betterment of Provincetown but most aren't! IT involves their own agendas! their idiotic  idea to remove the Town Parking Lot ,our cash cow, is preposterous & replace it with some other preposterous notion of stupidity!  365 are nobodies but as citizens,have the right to group & meet! nothing can be done w/o voters agreeing at Town Meeting!
10:02 am edt 

Re: Provincetown 365

"The nefarious members of Provincetown 365 are at it again!  Today they are posting on Facebook about the possibility of getting more bike racks at Court Street Landing!                                                               "

Does anyone know who owns this landing??
9:59 am edt 

Thursday, August 11, 2016

Re: Provincetown 365

The nefarious members of Provincetown 365 are at it again!  Today they are posting on Facebook about the possibility of getting more bike racks at Court Street Landing! Whose pockets is that lining!? And one of their members this week organized a memorial for murdered black women. We better check into this activity forthwith. The foxes are in the hen house and the pigeons are in the pie. Who let the dogs out? Who? Who? WHO?
2:13 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Beacon
 
"Ah, there is not much Intellectual analysis on the New Beacon"
 
I think You've Missed My Point

when you have a blog that is politically sensitive and is active in reporting on current town issues, it's a loss when it goes into slow mode. It takes energy and I hope it is regained. We all benefit when the blogs are all on high responsive mode.

clearly you can't wait for The Banner to inform any of us of what is current.
2:09 pm edt 

Thursday, August 11, 2016

Re: Provincetown Beacon

"Come on, go back to your older and better standards. Think. Analyze. Give us something new."
 
Stop with your childish demands already. What makes you believe you're entitled to be entertained by the Beacons of Facebook? Apparently, you have little ability to keep from boring yourself. But you sure do bore the bejesus out of me. Go read a book.
12:19 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Beacon

Ah, there is not much Intellectual analysis on the New Beacon

Come on. go back to your older and better standards. Think. Analyze. Give us something new.

This looks like mush and nothing bright and new.

Wake up and work a little harder. This would be a good thing!! In other words--we want more from you.
8:05 pm edt 

Re: To be or Not to Be - That is the Question

CUCUMBER GARDEN

This is the "Best of the Best" posts ever on this blog, I just spit out my coffee after reading it. God did that make my day!!
8:02 pm edt 

Re: To be or Not to Be - That is the Question

"RE: Town Hall is abuzz regarding a letter received from the state, which puts limits on the authority of the town to promote Town Planner's agenda."

I fail to understand why/how the state would get involved with limiting the authority of a Town Planner in any burg, town or city. The town determines the parameters of a job, and determines that person's authority according to set guidelines.  That's a town by town decision. 

Oh. Are you referring to Sal's? I thought there was nothing to see.
7:03 pm edt 

Re: To be or Not to Be - That is the Question

"Really scary stuff! You guys who think there's some evil afoot are simply          nuts."

I think the correct term is "nucking futs"
3:59 pm edt 

Re: To be or Not to Be - That is the Question
  
"The fox is on the loose and the hounds are afoot." 
 
Avec Le temps all plans and schemes are brought to light. C'est la vie.
 
The ineffectual nature of the town manager will  be seen for what it is and the town will realize
what games have been allowed to be played under his watch and by whom.
 
Last Mondays letter  from the state is only the start of a long unfolding process.
 
La vie est une longue procession menage ton cierge.  

3:48 pm edt 

Re: To Be or Not to Be - That is the Question

"The fox is on the loose and the hounds are afoot."

Keep up with the dramatic flair, Sherlock. Fiction is such a delight to read in August.
3:11 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown 365

How did Provincetown 365 come into being? Who started this organization and who are the backers as well as members? what has been its most recent activity? What does its leadership consist of?  
2:31 pm edt 

Re: Erik Yingling BOS Selectmen

".  .  .Erik? There's a more intelligent cucumber in my garden.  .  ."

Ok, that's my new favorite post on MYPACC.  Thanks


I like the shirt post- though find it hard to believe there was such a bylaw.
2:24 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown 365

I'd really like to hear what nefarious things the previous poster thinks 365 is working on. You can watch their meetings on YouTube and it all seems pretty mundane. Bike racks, bike lanes, restoring the portraits on the wharf, ideas for expanding the Maushope senior housing... I don't see how any of their activity helps out any particular business. The never ending suspicious and paranoid posts here are pretty sad.
11:28 am edt 

Re: Provincetown 365

Here's the history of the group, it's mission statement, etc. All of your conspiracy theories about it are, for a lack of better word, insane:

http://www.provincetown365.com/about-us/

It's a community focused group trying to make some positive changes in town. So far its saved the They Also Faced the Sea artwork (how nefarious!), gotten some work done with bike lanes, was where the idea for the First Night celebration originated, created pre-town meeting information sessions for town voters to learn about what will be voted on at town meeting, proposed some solutions to the housing crisis.

Really scary stuff! You guys who think there's some evil afoot are simply          nuts.
11:13 am edt 

Re: To be or Not to Be - That is the Question

I do think that the town manger is too disengaged with the specific operations  of town  governance.
It's one thing to permit those responsible  for specific bureaucratic functions to take the lead  position in the operations scheme of command, however, it's another for the CEO to fail to  provide leadership when confronted with specific gross failures of responsible personnel.
 
He knows the truth but has chosen to avoid confrontation, which will  ultimately cost Provincetown big-time.
 
So much for leadership or the absence thereof. 
8:35 am edt 

Re: Provincetown 365

Either I wasn't paying enough attention or it just slipped by me but can someone explain what Provincetown 365 is? What's their mission as laid out by the town and what have they done so far?
Thanks

8:19 am edt 

Re: Provincetown 365

As far as I can tell, the post about 365 may refer to the creation of a group to basically benefit one restaurant(                                                                                 ). The never ending posts and promotions for this place was crazy.  I hope that not one dollar of my tax dollars went to this nonsense.
8:16 am edt 

Provincetown 365

Please enlighten us as to what shenanigans Provincetown 365 is proposing or engaging in or focused on now?

I have no idea what is going on with them--you seem to know so just tell us.

6:35 am edt 

Wednesday, August 10, 2016

To be or Not to Be - That is the Question

As the truth is brought to light and the connecting dots are revealed, the creation of " Provincetown 365" along with its creators will  be shown to be a highly developed, long thought out enterprise having purposes and intents in direct  opposition to the general welfare of Provincetown for the benefit of a selected few; with the total ignorance  of the majority of its well intended members. 
 
The fox is on the loose and the hounds are afoot. True leadership would have opposed this abomination in its infancy, knowing full well  its purpose and creator. But cowardice gives pause and stays the hand of the coward. Rather than oppose the affront, acquiescence was chosen as a path of convenience, bordering on accession, thereby compounding the felony. 
 
This Town Manager is complicit by way of inaction, hiding behind "staff", resulting in the many complaints and allegations of misfeasance and malfeasance.
 
Hopefully, these issues  will be adjudicated in the courts and through state and federal intervention. 
12:38 am edt 

You Can't Give Away That Which You Don't Own

Town Hall is abuzz regarding a letter received from the state, which puts limits on the authority of the town to promote Town Planner's agenda.
 
As predicted, the Town Manager  has been led by the nose into the fire. He has only himself to blame. It is only the first of many setbacks which will  occur. It's purely a matter of "speaking  truth to power".
 
Cowardice is not an option! 

11:12 pm edt 

Erik Yingling BOS Selectmen

".  .  .Erik? There's a more intelligent cucumber in my garden.  .  ."

Ok, that's my new favorite post on MYPACC.  Thanks
10:55 pm edt 

Monday, August 8, 2016

Shirt On By-law?

We used to have a by-law in this town that everyone had to have a shirt on, what happened to it. It's disgusting to see men walking around without a shirt, not a pretty site.
11:43 pm edt 

Re: What's Happening?

Anyone who thinks R.Richter would officially move to Truro is in dreamland.  He needs to stay in Ptown so that he can hold sway politically...just look at how Wellfleet BOS slapped him down and ignored his appeals this past spring.
11:14 am edt 

Non-performing Town Planner & Housing Specialist

For a couple of years there has been a constant stream of complaints about the Town Planner and the Housing Specialist. These 2 positions were created to help bring a long term plan for this town. Instead we have a Town Planner that is causing continued harm to businesses in town while not producing a long term plan and a housing specialist who is anything but special in her knowledge and ability to secure housing for Provincetown residents. So, as others have said, please Town Manager enough with the radio shows and pithy posts on fb and clean up this mess.
11:13 am edt 

Re: $45 Tickets for Hillary's Fundraiser

 

Now...let's see... Are those town officials "buying" their $45 Hilary tickets the same ones that deliberated positively on behalf of the Hilary fundraising organizers (and one must ALWAYS add: Chelsea's Wedding Planners)?

11:09 am edt 

Monday, August 8, 2016

Re: Sal's Place
 
Hey to all, this isn't the only place in town that ONLY takes cash, have you ever seen the cardboard box under the counter at           ? That has been going on for decades, do you think                                                   they I can show you Donald Trumps tax returns.
12:26 am edt 

Re: What's Happening?

Raphael Richter and his wife are expecting a child.

They need room for their growing family but I'm not sure there is anything accurate about him moving outside PTown.
12:19 am edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

Congratulations David P.  You almost made it to a year before they turned on you.  This Town eats its young, don't let it get to you.

3:07 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner:

American Planning Association:

Actions Regarding Ethical Conduct
FILE A COMPLAINT OF MISCONDUCT, SEEK INFORMAL ADVICE, ACCESS ANNUAL REPORTS

All communications regarding specific ethics situations should occur either in letters or phone conversations with APA's Ethics Officer in his or her capacity as the ethics officer. Because of issues of reliability and confidentiality, email communication is not to be used.

        Filing a complaint of misconduct. If you believe an AICP member has violated the AICP Code of Ethics and Professional conduct, consider submitting this AICP Ethical Conduct Complaint Form.

        Seeking informal advice. Contact APAs Ethics Officer at 312-786-6360 if you would like to discuss a matter involving your own professional conduct or matters involving other planners.
        Access the Annual Reports on Case Activity and Requests


3:06 pm edt 

Re: $45 Tickets for Hillary's Fundraiser
 
Nailed it!
 
As for the $45 tickets, of course town officials will be "notified" and they will be able to "buy" these tickets. 
 

3:01 pm edt 

Re: Housing Years Ago

And in the 70's a 2 bedroom apartment in Back Bay was $110 a month. Everything changes. In the south End $80 a month......They would have charged 5 times those rents if people would have paid. House sitters in P-town would stay til Jan. then get up and leave without giving notice and letting pipes freeze. Renters can be as self centered as landlords.....No one is a winner. We all have to take care of ourselves.
2:57 pm edt 

Housing Years Ago

When we moved here when we were young, people who owned summer homes would have "house sitters" living in their homes for the winter. I don't know if they paid them or not.

I DO know that the house sitters didn't pay any rent to live in these homes. Fast forward to now and a one bedroom apt. rents for $1,200.00 a month. How the world has changed.

What will rents be in five years? in the 1970s so many multi family homes were for sale in the $30,000.00 Plus category. Rents were so cheap, people didn't feel the need to buy.

Now these multi family homes are divided into condos selling for $400,000.00 each.

Location, location, location. Provincetown, at the tip of Cape Cod, surrounded on three sides by water and the national seashore. One can't get more exclusive than that.

Now they want to take away the land that we voted on for the police station as though more affordable housing will change the course of history.

All that the selectmen are showing is that they are deceitful liars with their own agenda. May they reap what they sow.




1:58 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place

Sal's cash only?  No credit cards????
1:42 pm edt 

What's Happening?
 
Raphael Richter is buying land in Truro and building a house joining his cabs in Truro in the industrial park.

With Yingling and Richter leaving the BOS, a new opportunity.
1:41 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

I just hope she finds peace elsewhere.

She's not distressed with any of her actions or in actions, or that people may not like her.

Power hungry arrogance is what led, Jaren and Lynn, out of town-  we shall see.

Town Manager needs to step it up, stop trying to be an elected politician and do your job. The bull is transparent.
1:39 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

PLEASE

And I am assuming you believe that this "blog" is making the community more cohesive and a positive for our lovely community. I am sure the Town Planner has made mistakes, take it up with the Town Manager and if he doesn't agree then voice your opinion at a BOS meeting and inform them of your discontent. This blog is divisive and is a forum for discontents who only accentuate the negatives. Back stabbing, mean, vindictive men and women who have nothing better to do with their lives.
1:37 pm edt 

Re: $45 Tickets for Hillary's Fundraiser

It's About the $45 Tickets for Hillary's fundraiser

More like the available tickets the first time marc Jacobs sponsored Beaux Arts Ball. Yes, there were "available" tickets for some---Sharon Lynn was "given" 200 tickets and she distributed them. The were sold out before they went on sale. Key personnel were informed of when the "sale" would be while others remained in the dark.

As for the $45 tickets, of course town officials will be "notified" and they will be able to "buy" these tickets.

For the rest of us---better to be off to the beach.
1:34 pm edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

 "Less time spent on social media would represent a new beginning."


Yes. the guy is full of trite,  cliched bull and the ignorant people praising him for his communication skills on facebook, a sad state of Provincetown.
1:31 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place

Regarding the statement ". . . you both dislike the Town Planner so you are trying to run her out of town like you did Sharon and Jeff. Get over yourselves."

This is not about like or dislike. The issue here is about competence. I will not speak of Clarence and Marcene, but liking or disliking has nothing to do with it.

With all due respect the Town Planner is running herself out of town by leading town boards, causing strife and internal problems with other town staff, assuming powers that are not hers, exercising poor judgment, and inciting community members against each other. Her knowledge base is poor at best. Anyone looking up local, state, national & intl [Planning} Best Practices will find our community suffers from poor planning. Planning as a professional practice is not what she is doing.

She is running herself out of town!

Her own actions distance her from our community, not the people in town. Im just sorry it has not been sooner. The outcome of her actions has done irreparable harm to friends, family, and most importantly the community. I just hope she finds peace somewhere else.

9:51 am edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

Notice to the Town Manager:
 
Good leadership leads from the front, not from the rear. Show some skill and grow a pair.
 
Stop hiding behind "Staff". Your feel-good social media promotions are not a substitute for good governance.
 
Less time spent on social media would represent a new beginning. 
8:03 am edt 

So Much Whining!

45 dollar tickets not advertised, wrong! I purchased 2 the day the event was posted on fb by whomever. OMG there is so much whining on social media. Bikes in parking spaces, heart of town is gone, boats on beach, Clarence is biased about Sal's..................grow a pair.
7:56 am edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

"His Pontius Pilate "washing his hands of the problem" technique may have worked in Hartford or New Haven but it won't work here  in Provincetown."

Are you serious Mary Jo's been washing her hands for years.
7:53 am edt 

Re: Sal's Place

 

"....you both dislike the Town Planner so you are trying to run her out of town like you did Sharon and Jeff. Get over yourselves."

Are you saying Sharon and Jaren should still work for the town? they ran themselves out of town -

7:49 am edt 

Saturday, August 6, 2016

Re: Sal's Place

They Created the Delays and Stopped Sal's from Opening until now

Memorial Day weekend is gone. July 4th is gone. Staff was so complicit that it is disgusting. Violation for non issues. Violation for issues already approved. Fabricated issues that delayed and delayed the opening of Sal's. Look carefully and you'll see an embarrassing series of actions that are purposeful and sickening. It is also selective enforcement and that should never be.
10:57 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place

Clarence, we get it you and Marcene are buddies with the new owners, letters blah blah, headlines on your blog. Let the lawyers handle it. I am sure there were mistakes made on all sides and BTW if the food is great and service is great they will succeed. You don't need             greasing the wheels for them its so obvious, you both dislike the Town Planner so you are trying to run her out of town like you did Sharon and Jeff. Get over yourselves.
8:04 pm edt 

RE BOS Cheryl Andrews on Facebook -Going to the Hillary/Cher Fundraiser.
 
A little insider trading anyone? The $45.00 tickets were gone before they were advertised. "yeeup. i was lucky to be having dinner with some of the folks putting this together last weekend and found out about the $45 tickets VERY early. Otherwise....forgeddaboutit ... It's a fundraiser ... ....personally, i have never given that kind of donation to anyone....other than myself of course. But the amnt of money it costs to run a national campaign is...unreal. anyway, i got $45 tickets. so, she got 90 from me and Jenn. and thats it . You can't even eat out in Provincetown for that !"
8:01 pm edt 

Re: An Observation

"with all the toxic waste you all spew."

Do you not see how toxic and generalized your post is?
7:54 pm edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

"and what Big Picture do you think the town manager is handling? What Big Issues do you think the town manager is handling?

Sadly, none at all."


OK Einstein, exactly what makes you think "handling the big picture" is up to the town manger? He works as the head administrator of the staff at town hall, he's the boss of the police and fire chief. You know who's responsible for "the big picture"? Your Board of Selectmen. The town manger isn't. I love the people here who don't even know how the town government is supposed to work, but constantly complain. He can introduce ideas and advocate for projects, but the responsibility to put those into action is up to the selectmen and votes at town meeting (and also various committees). He can't even transfer money to cover anything that isn't in the budget. Maybe you think housing is a big deal? That's why town meeting keeps rejecting items that would help there. So look in the mirror on that one. Tourism? That's the vsb who gets it's money from...you guessed it...town meeting votes. Maybe you're thinking of the recent crap over Sal's that had more to do with neighbor's suing e!
ach other than with the town? Again, read all the material. The town had nothing to do with the delays. Ask how many times the owner actually showed up at the meetings she was supposed to, including the last one where she was granted the permit even though, again, she never showed up. So if you want to keep complaining, go talk to a selectman, especially Cheryl who got the most votes but really never votes on anything or who is so in love with the past we get a history lesson that is meaningless to move us forward. Interesting from a gossip point of view? Sure. Helpful? Not so much. How about Raphael, who never met something he didn't like as long as it is in his self-interest? Erik? There's a more intelligent cucumber in my garden. There's a majority so go talk to them.
7:52 pm edt 

Re: Just Pulled in to Provincetown Harbor
                                            
"Where is the heartbeat ofP-Town grandma?" 
   
      . I own a home and business in Provincetown. I live here year round. This town is wonderful. So the next time you pull into the harbor and feel the need to complain about my home town, don't. If Provincetown is not for you anymore then go somewhere else.
10:35 am edt 

Re: Town Manager Vacation

I, for one, think it's good the old boy gets out of town. Helps to build perspective.

Sounds like sour grapes to me ... the one chronic complaint that his not being here during the busiest time of the year is problematic. Was that part of his contract, when he could take vay-kay?

Lighten up, folks. We're winding down on summer. Enjoy it, and celebrate the fact we skated through another season without a hitch.

Darla
10:34 am edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

"What is the problem with having a heterosexual as TM why would you say you have to be anti gay to want a heterosexual as TM. That's like saying we have to have all homosexuals in town government because you hate straight people!!!" Tell me what is wrong with hiring a honest local heterosexual with morals and integrity for TM? Are you afraid things might change like putting an end to the rampant corruption that plagues this town and you won't be catered to anymore.?!?!"
 

"That's it in a nutshell...they dislike straight people and they hate straight women....those who own there now want all the rest of "us" out of their little playground, and their equally "corrupt" friends running the show.  Good riddance."

"let's try looking for a honest local "family man" the next time."
 
10:30 am edt 

Friday, August 5, 2016

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept
 
"let's try looking for a honest local "family man" the next time."

What is the problem with having a heterosexual as TM why would you say you have to be anti gay to want a heterosexual as TM. That's like saying we have to have all homosexuals in town government because you hate straight people!!! I can't remember when this town had an honest family man or women as TM one with no irons in the fire and who doesn't know and is friends with all the wrong people. Oh that's right this is Ptown the town of the liberal elite, intolerant who only care about their own. Homophobe I think not try looking in the mirror to see what the real problem of this town has been for quite some time now. Tell me what is wrong with hiring a honest local heterosexual with morals and integrity for TM? Are you afraid things might change like putting an end to the rampant corruption that plagues this town and you won't be catered to anymore.?!?!
7:42 pm edt 

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest

"Does he have an "interest" here in Provincetown other than Yolk?"


A big portion of Dyer st
7:35 pm edt 

Re: Just Pulled in to Provincetown Harbor
 
"Where is the heartbeat of P-Town grandma?" 
 
Lol

My grandkids all talk about the 'heartbeat of Provincetown'.   NOT.

I have children who grew up here and grandchildren who are growing up here.  They've never talked about the 'heartbeat of Provinvetow '. Sounds like a made-up conversation
4:33 pm edt 

Re: New Police Station

So now the new Police Station location is for property across from St. Peter's Cemetery! Well,maybe that location is better! It's close to the highway for easier access for cruisers to come & go & the cemetery across the street makes for quiet neighbors! However,the VFW was purchased for the new Police Station coupled with housing in that area! Where will the transient Tourist buses be relocated? Don't tell me on the shoulders or center island of Rte. 6!?
1:06 pm edt 

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest

I agree! Anyone that owns a restaurant should NOT be on the board. It most certainly is a conflict of interest...they can propose change according to their own agenda.

Same with people on the school board. They want what they want so their kids will benefit. There ought to be some sort of regulation attached to these boards. That's why sleazy stuff goes on without protest. Who wants to take on an entire board for one selfish person.
12:30 pm edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

"let's try looking for a honest local "family man" the next time."

Hmmmm.   Does anyone else think this comment was made by a crypto-homophobe.  In my opinion, one does not have to look too deeply between the lines to draw that conclusion.
12:28 pm edt 

Re: Just Pulled in to Provincetown Harbor

"Where is the heartbeat of P-Town grandma?"

You've nailed it!! The heartbeat and the heart are long gone. Gone is the spirit and the kindness of the town. The trust we had as neighbors and friends has turned to ice. Trust is now replaced with suspicion and distrust, and general nastiness. The all mighty dollar is now the way of life. The developers are now in charge. People with a little bit of clout are now telling us what to do. We as long term townies are now powerless. We are witnessing a transition. One not for the better, I daresay.
11:39 am edt 

Re: Just Pulled in to Provincetown Harbor

Likt the recent poster said ,"the heartbeat of Provincetown has gone due to gentrification," That is true! everything that spelled the real Provincetown was defaced or eliminated!!The real Carnival arrived here annually for 1 week with fun rides,skill games,taffy apples,cotton candy,& Carnival folks who were pleasant to talk in spite of their rowdy appearance! That's too coarse for those here now that fixate themselves acut above every one else considered crass! The memories of smelly fish traps in people's yards aren't any worse than Advertisement Barkers accosting people with advertisement cards that end up littering the streets for every show in TownThe support that occurred for Sal's place abuse is the real P'Town that fights for what is just & right & not for those that want to further perpetuate gentrification!
11:37 am edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept
 
"..the Manager has to be able to have freedom to look and act on the "big Picture" and interact with the public, his staff, the selectmen and all of the various town committees, etc., etc. He does not have to be involved in the daily minutia, that is why he has a TOWN HALL STAFF."
 
  
Handling the Big Picture??

and what Big Picture do you think the town manager is handling? What Big Issues do you think the town manager is handling?

Sadly, none at all.

11:29 am edt 

Sandwich Boards

How on earth is a trolley company allowed to put up a "sandwich board" sign on the NARROW sidewalk of Standish Street (between Bradford and Commercial). It clearly impedes foot traffic, NO WAY a family with a stroller can get by.  I thought these signs were tightly regulated...get ready for all the sidewalks becoming obstacle courses.
11:26 am edt 

Just Pulled in to Provincetown Harbor

We all noticed something was not the same.  It was eerily different this time.  My grandson asked, "Where is the heartbeat of P-Town grandma?"  (Which is what we always told our kids the constant beating of the music was ... )There was no familiar rhythm of the music that used to greet us as we entered port and which we would fall to sleep by, and no uplifting beating of the music that would entice us to come over to land to be part of the excitement and vibrancy that is P-Town.  I miss that.  Is this what gentrification has done?  Isn't this why people wanted to be here in the first place?? Why change what attracted you?
6:57 am edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept
                                           
"Really? that is just nuts. It's time for tourists to be on vacation and for the town manager to manage."
 
 
The TM
He does not get paid a huge salary to let the assistant TM and other town staff to the job he is supposed to be doing. We as town know that he is less than honest that was proven by what he told us time and time again in the failed Winslow Farms deal, not to mention his laughable attempt at covering up for the police ineptitude that were involved in the so called TD bomb threat video. He has yet to do anything about any of the complaints that have been set before him and has issued a directive to all town employees not to talk to tax payers about town going ons or issues. The only subjects that we're are not immediately privy or entitled to know are executive session meetings and certain litigation everything else we are entitled to know. Why is the TM constantly at the harbor masters office is it that he likes his leisurly chauffeured rides around the harbor that he has been seen enjoying on several occasions this summer? It seems to be a regular thing for him to do now on !
nice days.  Is it any wonder why he just gave such great cudos to the harbor masters staff!  Not to mention he lets town employees, staff, board members and committee members who represent our town embarrass it on social media something he specifically said he would not tolerate, I guess he meant it depends who you are when he stated that. No my good taxpayers this man is not the person that he was billed to be we should cut our losses and send him packing and let's try looking for a honest local family man the next time.
6:53 am edt 

Friday, August 5, 2016

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept
 
"Really? that is just nuts. It's time for tourists to be on vacation and for the town manager to manage." 
 
People griping about the Town Manager taking a vacation have never managed a town! First of all, we just went through three very successful summers, WITHOUT a Town Manager. The Town was very capably managed by Mr. Gardner who did a good job then, and can fill in very nicely when Mr. Panagore is away now. That is one of the reasons to have a strong Assistant, the Manager has to be able to have freedom to look and act on the "big Picture" and interact with the public, his staff, the selectmen and all of the various town committees, etc., etc. He does not have to be involved in the daily minutia, that is why he has a TOWN HALL STAFF. Give the man a break (and support), he's working his arse off!
12:11 am edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept
                                           
"Honestly it's one of the better times for the TM to go on vacation."
 
Oh, Really! summer is when our town Manager should be on Vacation??

Really? that is just nuts. It's time for tourists to be on vacation and for the town manager to manage. Now you'll tell me he should be on vacation during Carnival Week.

1:23 pm edt 

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest

Not only is he a restaurateur but the variance concerned the layout of Sal's open kitchen, which is somewhat similar to  the open kitchen of Mr. Katsurinis' "Yolk"restaurant."
  
I have viewed a number of Board Of Health meetings. It is disturbing that  Mr. Katsurinis appears to take control and at the very least attempts to impose his interpretation of cases in rather a dominant fashion upon his fellow members. It almost seems he is the Chair of the Board . He is arrogant and clearly more interested in what he has to say in contrast to what the applicant has to say. The other board members appear fair and poised. Does he have an "interest" here in Provincetown other than Yolk?
1:20 pm edt 

Re: High Speed Low Cost Internet

Oh Gary. Still trying to push this stuff? Do we need to use Ubuntu? ;)
1:18 pm edt 

Wednesday, August 3, 2016

Re: High Speed Low Cost Internet

Good idea. I just signed up, only took a minute. Hope others do the same to help make this happen.
4:11 pm edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

".  .  .Selectmen read this blog and they should know the TM shouldn't be on vacation these months! That's not unreasonable. .  .  .

"Honestly it's one of the better times for the TM to go on vacation.  For town hall it is one of the slower times of the year.  Everyone in the community is so busy everything is on autopilot.  He is surrounded by very competent staff and my guess is that he checks in every day.

Give the man a break.  He's entitled to take a vacation and there is never a perfect time to take time off.
10:32 am edt 

Our Own Moneypit

Whats happening at the high school building? I thought they were just going to replace the heating system (6 million $)but I see that there is a lot of outside work being done on the walkways, roofing and that the auditorium seats have been removed to a dumpster! New seats in the auditorium? Wow! What else? And what happened to the sculpture for the new sculpture garden?
10:30 am edt 

High speed low cost internet

"OpenCape" is a non-profit trying to bring fiber optic high speed internet at low cost to the Cape. They are measuring interest by getting people to sign up (with no obligation) online at: https://opencape.crowdfiber.com/

So far, Provincetown leads the towns on the Cape in % sign-ups, but more are needed. This could help us all get higher speed internet at low cost. Our compact Town has a very good chance of becoming the pilot site for Open Cape.

There was a story about this in the Cape Cod Times 2 weeks ago.  See it here for more details: http://www.capecodtimes.com/article/20160725/NEWS/160729674


10:27 am edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

"You can try to swing the pendulum in your favor, but I sense it's too late for that."

To the person who posted the above:  Whoever told you that you're clever does not have your best interests in mind.
10:22 am edt 

Tuesday, August 2, 2016

Re: BOS and Town Manager

Honestly, no one has the time or energy these two months to attend a Selectmen meeting. Selectmen read this blog and they should know the TM shouldn't be on vacation these months! That's not unreasonable. He still has his weekends off but at least be on Cape in the event the sewers backup again! Boy do you all have short memories!!!!
3:27 pm edt 

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest

A few years ago the Town Clerk ,recommended by the Stat's Ethics Commission,Bd. of Selectmen,& Town Manager,sponsor classes to educate board & committee members,especially regulatory members ,in the proper,legal process in voting cases before them, In summary it clearly stated persons serving on Boards that have to review requests by the Public that the Bd./Comm. members are serving on must clearly disclose their info to the Town Clerk! If Public applicant requests Board members with an appearance of conflict to step down then it must be granted! If Bd. member with same venue as applicant must sit due to lack of membership quorum they must use careful discretion voting which could be questionable! Best suggestion was to step down,leave the room and not vote at all!!
3:25 pm edt 

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest

"Do you really think an east side restaurant owner whose restaurant is open until 2pm is going to try to stop a west end restaurant who is only open for dinner?"

Sometimes there is a lack of common sense floating around this town.  But there is always an ample supply of bitter people who only want to take others down.
3:23 pm edt 

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest
 
"Under the state laws of Massachusetts, as long as the venu owner on the board felt he could be impartial, disclosed that, and the other venue owner was comfortable with that, it would not be a conflict of interest."


Did he disclose? Did he at the very least announce at the discussion that he owned a restaurant? At the VERY LEAST, a person MUST make that disclosure, and should have officially filed with the town clerk the fact that he owns restaurant and would possibly be voting on potential rival restaurant applications. If he didn't do either, he's in violation. The state won't do anything about it at this point because the vote was favorable to the applicant but he should still file for future issues.

11:02 am edt 

Tuesday, August 2, 2016

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest

 

"If the owner of a major entertainment venue sat on a board that determined the fate of a potential rival, I would call that a conflict of interest. I do not see any difference with a restaurant owner weighing in on the fate of another restaurant."

Under the state laws of Massachusetts, as long as the venu owner on the board felt he could be impartial, disclosed that, and the other venue owner was comfortable with that, it would not be a conflict of interest.

12:30 am edt 

Strong Opinion

Jeez, I'm only gone a month and the town is even closer to circling the drain...more venom and misogyny from the overly self entitled gay men toward yet another woman trying to make a go of it in town, more character assassination of the target of the week, more petty complaints because Town Hall won't kiss your collective asses...it's a wonder the EPA doesn't declare the entire town a Superfund site, with all the toxic waste you all spew...your poison makes the very air stink, and I am SOOOO gad I don't have to breathe that crap anymore!! Best thing to happen will be for the sea rise to take back and flood most of town, and give the whole area back to the seals and whales....
12:28 am edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

It appears the West End glory boys have gathered a few henchmen to crackle on about the selling of a separate parking space at Sals, and how that's an indication of 'greed'. You must be aware of that old Ptown trick by now, clever as you are, even put into use by Mr. Affordable himself, Ted Malone. You can try to swing the pendulum in your favor, but I sense it's too late for that. That goes for nothing-to-see-here-oh-look-a-nor'easter Town Manager. Talk about a perfect storm!
12:26 am edt 

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest

Back in the day, I served on the ZBA for 10 years. I also owned a guesthouse. If a guesthouse came before the ZBA I would recuse myself and leave the room until the case was completed..
12:23 am edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

The town manager needs to keep quiet when its comes to Sal's Restaurant. Posting on fb looks more like a rationalization  of missteps and only invites comments from the blowhard that owns the "largest entertainment venue in town".
12:22 am edt 

Carnival Parade

Thank you PBG for organizing the parade every year. Although I have no idea who the Grand Marshall is nor am I a big HRC fan, the amount of time many unpaid volunteers put into this week is appreciated.

12:21 am edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

"Not only is he a restaurateur but the variance concerned the layout of Sal's open kitchen, which is somewhat similar to  the open kitchen of Mr. Katsurinis' "Yolk"restaurant."
  

I viewed the meeting on PTown TV. The 7/27/2016 meeting is extremely disturbing to me. Mr. Katsurinis on numerous occasions right to the end of the meeting when it is apparent a decision is imminent tries to sway the board to a one year determination versus a decision in general . He continually looks and glances at his board when he speaks and it is clear there was an agenda that was set prior to this boards meeting by a Mr. Katsurinis. I do not believe the board was aware and I am relieved they voted as they did with the information put in front of them and provided by said applicant. I am disturbed however by this board members actions and repeated attempts to "sway the board". Disturbing at least. Who is he and what is his history with Provincetown?
12:18 am edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

The town manager should be fired just because he's taking vacation during the two busiest months in our town! Seriously, even Sharon Lynn didn't do that!

The Town Manager reports to the BOS. If you have a beef, you need to contact them, or attend a BOS meeting and speak during Public Comments.

They, not you, have the power to discipline the TM, but your input is invaluable.
12:16 am edt 

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest

If the owner of a major entertainment venue sat on a board that determined the fate of a potential rival, I would call that a conflict of interest. I do not see any difference with a restaurant owner weighing in on the fate of another restaurant.
4:43 pm edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

The town manager should be fired just because he's taking vacation during the two busiest months in our town! Seriously, even Sharon Lynn didn't do that!
3:47 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place

"...the former owner who sold a parking space (greedy) that tripped off a lot of the abutter complaints."

That's the start of all of the problems.  Originally, a single property that broken apart, and was sold, piece by piece.  Those who purchased in the later stages may not have done all of the due diligence, or were in denial. The only one who benefited was the original seller, who took the money from all of the parties in question, and left for New York City.
3:42 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Beacon

Mark Hatch screwed up the Beacon....................boring as hell. Bring back Oatsie!!!!!!
3:40 pm edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

It's unbelievable that people would buy into what Town Counsel was paid to do to bail out the Town Boards who were given orders to stall Sal's Restaurant permits until it was over the time to continue in the restaurant business! (2 years almost expired!) The owners got their permit in minutes after former Commissioner Mulvey pointed out the games people were playing with Sal's owners! SHAMEFUL! I hope they will sue the Town for financial loss for this season now that it's almost over & they were blocked from the onset opening of this season! No village idiots here in spite of some with a lot of money think! Honesty - not money counts! To Sal's owners: Never fear people love that place & will continue tp patronize it!
12:02 pm edt 

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest

"It follows that if you own a restaurant then you cannot vote on the fate of another restaurant. You can gain a slight financial gain. Case closed!"

No. I have personally talked to the state about this. I have personally talked to Town Hall about this. I have personally talked to lawyers about this. You are incorrect. Please stop. Please stop. Please stop. It is not a conflict of interest to own a restaurant and sit on a case about restaurants.

I HAVE LITERALLY DONE THE RESEARCH. I HAVE TALKED TO ALL OF THE EXPERTS. THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU. PLEASE STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION THAT -- IF EVERYONE ELSE BELIEVES IT -- MAKES IT SEEM LIKE PEOPLE ON BOARDS ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG WHEN IN FACT THEY ARE NOT. YOU ARE NOT RIGHT ON THIS.
11:57 am edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

" People are beginning to come to the conclusion that this town manager is way over his head and lacks any skill in organizational management. "

Ummmm....no. The only place that seems to be happening is with the 5 or 6 people who keep posting about it here. Everyone else seems to think that he's going a good job. And in this entire slurry of screeds here about Sal's, all you have to do is go to Town Hall to see what the Town was involved in, as well go to the Regulatory Board meetings (or watch them in the comfort of your own house) to see what the votes were. The Town just followed the rules, their abutters, however, are a different story as well as the former owner who sold a parking space (greedy) that tripped off a lot of the abutter complaints. Also the new owner didn't show up for the Regulatory meetings. GO LOOK. So who's fault is that? The Town's? Or does SHE bear responsibility if things get delayed because she chooses not to show up? It's all there, just go look. People are so quick to come up with some conspiracy garbage, which the truth, as always, is much, much more simple.
11:54 am edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

If you believe in these town counsel after what Jaran won, you're putting all the eggs in the wrong basket!!!!
11:27 am edt 

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest

What is Immediate May Not Seem Immediate to Some

and that is immediate financial gain. the case of being an abutter to any property while serving on a board is a great example. the abutter's list changes per board with 75 feet for historic district Commission to 150 feet and more for Zoning and other boards. this is a serious conflict of interest to the state and if you are on a board and if a case comes up and you are an abutter, there is no if's or but's--you cannot vote on the case. and more, you must recuse yourself and you must leave the meeting and only return when the case is finally concluded or continued.

Any possibility however slight of financial gain, and this is considered one, you absolutely cannot vote nor discuss the case.

It follows that if you own a restaurant then you cannot vote on the fate of another restaurant. You can gain a slight financial gain. Case closed!

10:32 am edt 

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest

If You Own a Restaurant you Should Recuse yourself from voting on a Case that can Cause the Restaurant to open or not open

No. Read the link provided below. It was written explicitly to encourage the exact opposite outcome as what you are saying. Read it. It's right there.

It's great that you have an opinion about the ethics rules, but owning a similar business is not the same as being an abutter. It's literally right there in the rules.

Stop presenting your opinion as true when it is contradicted by the actual rules.
10:31 am edt 

Re: Sal's Place - Notice of Intent

Sal's vs condo people...millionaires fighting against millionaires.
10:29 am edt 


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