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Saturday, April 30, 2016

Re: Vincent Currier

 

Frankly tired of this Vincent negative postings

about Hillary Clinton. I, too, feel personally insulted. She is a woman and you--are a man, a white man who obviously feels privileged. But your are a sad creature, sir, because you are blatantly sexist and I am tired of your tirades against this woman--yes, a woman running for president.

Your behavior and your words are rather sick and you are rather sickening.

7:26 pm edt 

From Wayne Martin

 

When you get all your worldly possessions stolen from you with the help of the police and keep getting BS charge after charge levied against you then you can call me nuts until then try being a decent person and getting involved.

6:51 pm edt 

From Wayne Martin

First of all to the anonymous poster Screw yourself you coward it's called being a stand up brave person who has been terrorized by the police for better than twenty years and had watched scores of people get the same treatment when they wouldn't bend over and why did you address me in that comment? Put your name to your posts so People know who they're are hearing from you vermon! Or is it one of the admins putting in their two cents. Yeah everybody that has law suits pending against the Ptown and Truro police are nuts too right, it's my understanding selectman Anthony recently sued the police, and the 102 people that signed the petition to demote Golden must also be nuts who idiot wet brain!
I want this posted in its intirety I'm tired of people taking cheap shots at me with out putting their names to their posts and if it's one of you, at least put your name to it, if it's a cop that keeps doing it I want his or her name!
6:50 pm edt 

Re: OK Vincent if You Want to Be Upset

 

Thanks for Finally Calling this Man a Sexist and a Bigot

This currier guy obviously has problems with women and uses his wrath to attack Hillary Clinton. It is so demeaning and I too am offended. Be for Bernie if you want but don't "Trump" Hillary in such a savage way. she is competent and deserves respect.  glad someone is seeing this insult.

6:46 pm edt 

Re: Comment

 

"How can anybody sit by and watch their fellow man suffer needlessly at the hands of this Chief Golden? What kind of people are you"

Wayne, we all think you are a little nuts in you hatred for the police chief so we've kind of tuned you and your rants out.

10:44 am edt 

Re: " Vista Pruning"

 

Let's make the distinction: the Oppen lane situation was vista pruning of one's own property, the Nelson Ave thing was murder of a huge tree that did not belong to those that did the deed.

9:45 am edt 

Comment

 

To the overlords of shoutout it is clear that you have your own agenda when it comes to informing the public about Provincetowns police chief. So that being said the next time someone's rights are violated or the police refuse to do their jobs because they don't like someone you people should hang your heads in shame! You won't even post that we have a petition to demote Jim Golden because of his crimes and malfeasance, why? It's obvious that at least some of the admins have an agenda!

How can anybody sit by and watch their fellow man suffer needlessly at the hands of this Chief Golden? What kind of people are you?

9:43 am edt 

Re: STOP THE SPECIAL TREATMENT!!!

Wow, missed her once on a Friday and you lose it? Relax pal, nothing is that crazy important and if it is, it's most likely poor planning on your part. BTW, there is no such thing as a Title V license. She could take the test for a registered sanitarian but that's about it. And if she works Fridays, it would be only till noon anyway, right? I'm sure the TM knows all about it. Relax.
9:41 am edt 

Friday, April 29, 2016

Re: STOP THE SPECIAL TREATMENT!!!

Wow, missed her once on a Friday and you lose it? Relax pal, nothing is that crazy important and if it is, it's most likely poor planning on your part. BTW, there is no such thing as a Title V license. She could take the test for a registered sanitarian but that's about it. And if she works Fridays, it would be only till noon anyway, right? I'm sure the TM knows all about it. Relax.
11:07 pm edt 

STOP THE SPECIAL TREATMENT!!!

 

Why does health agent get SPECIAL TREATMENT? Morgan Clark never has to work on Fridays. Why? She no longer goes to school and hasn't for a number of years. So why does she get Fridays off. SPECIAL TREATMENT. She is almost impossible to contact and is always "too busy" to help customers.Almost 4 1/2 years have passed since the Selectmen approved her hiring with the condition that she take the courses needed for her, as an important part of her job, get licensed to inspect title 5 septic systems. Has she done that? NO. Why? Too busy. More SPECIAL TREATMENT! Instead, the town has to pay  Barnstable County employees large fees to do the inspections as well a number of others that she is supposed to be doing. Why is she allowed to waste our money this way? Why haven't her supervisors and/or the Selectmen looked into this? SPECIAL TREATMENT! Ask all of those of us who try to get help from her and get the runaround. STOP THE SPECIAL TREATMENT! Require her, and enforce thi!
s, to do what she was supposed to do over 4 years ago. Get her Title 5 license! Make her work on Fridays like almost everyone else! MAKE HER EARN THE LARGE SALARY SHE IS PAID instead of hiding in her office on those times that she does come to work!

9:57 pm edt 

Anyone But Donegan

 

I haven't heard of anyone other than the one person who posts here that thinks Donegan has done a good job.  Vote for Venden, Siegel or Breglia.

Time for a change.

9:55 pm edt 

I Will Fight You To the End

Just saw your wacky post. You are rather sick cookie Vincent. time to take a break and try thinking for awhile. It will stretch your brain but you need serious help. I don't know what you're smoking but you should stop a little.
6:25 pm edt 

OK Vincent if You Want to Be Upset

Than be upset with Dennis Hastert--he went against the Clintons and he orchestrated the impeachment trial of Bill Clinton. and now look--yes look at him--a pedophile, a sexual abuser of the boys he coached as a wrestling coach. If you want wrath, then target it where it should. Look at the real imposter, the real liars, the real dishonest politicians. Dennis Hastert.

But you are not. You are laser focused on Hillary Clinton to a  point of frenzy. But it is unearned frenzy and you are a man without a critical position driven by emotion. You are a sad voice for this town. silence would do us all better than your drivel.
6:24 pm edt 

Go Girl!

I couldn't agree anymore. I too am tired with this constant attack on Hillary Clinton and treating her with such disrespect. What is wrong with this Currier guy? It is just terrible and women--all women--should be treated with respect.

anyone can disagree with issues and positions but this sexist attack Hillary as a woman is driving me crazy. I am more than over this rant and relentless attack on women.
6:22 pm edt 

Re: " Vista Pruning"

That was anything but a "vista pruning"...they hacked down multiple trees and turned the site into an eyesore...and they left the detritus of the large tree in a pile at the edge of the road.  It's UGLY. Can't wait to see the rest of the monstrosity.
6:09 pm edt 

Banner Editorial

Well the Banner got it half right: Cheryl Andrews is the best, most knowledgeable member of the board of selectmen, so it makes all the sense in the world to re-elect her to a second term.  However Tom Donagan should be replaced!  His lack of understanding of what makes Provincetown special and reluctance to understand that our town is now a tourism driven economy as opposed to a vibrant industrial based economy of years gone by after being on the Board of Selectmen for a year is incredulous! Get rid of Tom Donagan
6:08 pm edt 

Re: Vista Pruning/Conscom Control

Everything that has been posted in here is correct and it's scary. We all need to realize that ANY, ANY alteration of the land covered by those areas is a project that needs review by conscom and they have the ability to deny/limit the permit or activity. Want to expand your lawn? Maybe not. Want to install a driveway in a different way on your property? Maybe not. Want to get rid of the dead trees that are ugly in your backyard. Nope, don't be so quick with the saw. Been sitting on an empty lot and want to now build a home there? Maybe not as big as you want or where you want or with a garden and paved driveway like you wanted.
And don't buy the idea that this board understands it's limitations and would NEVER be strong handed. What about the next board or just the majority of the board that wants to shut down any construction or altering of the lands in town? It's not just scary, it's nightmare like someone posted prior.
5:51 pm edt 

BOS Electoral Contest

 

It is easy to predict, by the numbers, who will be the top vote getters in Tuesday's BOS electoral contest.

The two lowest boys will be Vincent and Gordon, losers by any standards! Why would a married couple run for office, basically against each other? Neither one of them has a brain to share and are running a silly and defensive campaign.

Louise Venden has run the best campaign, she is everywhere and makes good sense and actually works for the votes. Unfortunately she will not win, although she will definitely come in third, way ahead of the aformentioned clowns.

The winners will be Tom Donegan, the top vote getter. He has been the best BOS Chair we have had in many years, has the support of his Board and Town Staff, and has a deep love and respect for the future of Provincetown. He is heads above the crowd.

Cheryl Andrews is just a great candidate with a strong following and a deep understanding and patience with our amazing community, and she asks questions, lots of questions.

The BOS with Tom at the helm, and Cheryl on the Board, will continue the good work they have started.

I love this Town!

5:49 pm edt 

Vincent Currier

 

I Think It's time for Vincent Currier to Accept the Loss of Bernie as a Presidential choice

and stop insulting and demeaning Hillary Clinton. I am starting to see a sexist response to everything Hillary by him and feel he is bigoted and misogynist and I am upset by his tireless personal attack on this woman. Stop putting women down by your awful postings and derogatory words.

11:29 am edt 

Re: Vista Pruning

 

"Knowing the bylaw is YOUR responsibility, so instead of being lazy, start reading!"

That's a real unhelpful post.  Why post at all! 

Here is some basic info in reply to what was originally asked:

TM in 2011 approved giving Conservation Com. the power to regulate activity on land that is under the Natural Heritage and Endangered Species Program (NHESP), per the map link that was previously posted.  Sounds fine until you see it covers a great deal of the town and almost any activity involving vegetation, landscaping, etc. 

Here is a link to the Cons Com site that gives more details, including how to apply for a permit (non-refundable $50 fee), a listing of exemptions (don't apply to most people's property), etc.:

http://www.provincetown-ma.gov/index.aspx?NID=430

Seems like gross overkill to say their rules cover simply cutting down dead trees that will fall down on their own in our recurring high winds, but their power is broad (at least that's how they interpret it).

Read literally, you can't dig a mail box post hole without their prior permission.  Welcome to 21st century America, at least as practiced here.

11:26 am edt 

Question

 

Can someone explain that "bird Lives matter" post?

11:21 am edt 

Re: Vista Pruning

 

Birds Lives Matter?

They've been living with no problem for thousands of years. Get real.

8:09 am edt 

Re: Vista Pruning

 

Rules & Bylaws

Does anyone realize that these so-called bylaws and rules are slowly taking our freedoms away?? Our rights on our own properties are being taken from us. Scary stuff.

8:08 am edt 

Re: Vista Pruning

 

It strikes me as ironic that what was once over an acre of wooded land in the West End can be completely clear cut of trees for the construction of condos, yet if someone prunes their trees they get a fine.  I understand they would not have been fined if they first went to the Conservation Committee, but still it seems heavy handed.

8:04 am edt 

Thursday, April 28, 2016

Provincetown Banner Editorial Endorsement

 

Banner bull, bull sh--it!

Hogwash. donegan has been a disaster and to editorialize his talents of which he has none, is an abomination. He has been and remains a disaster for this town.

Just look at this actions, his votes and his terrible articles on the warrant.

that in itself says it all.

10:57 pm edt 

Re: Vista Pruning

No joke.
It doesn't simply apply to trimming for vistas and cutting in wetlands. Provincetown, in it's oh so wise ways, has decided to adopt the Natural Heritage Endangered Species maps as areas that will now need to go for review before the conscom for ANY change in the landscape. The maps show areas of alleged endangered species and also habitat for those endangered species and therefore can't be disturbed without permission.
Try this;
enter this address, http://www.mapsonline.net/provincetownma/index.html?ts_cama_id=18-1-14-00G

That gets you to the town maps. Zoom out. On the left side, click on the layers tab. You'll see the flood zone box, click it. Scroll down and you'll see the boxes for wetlands and NHESP maps. Click those. What you'll see is that most o the town is now colored blue or shaded yellow/green. All of the propertys in the shaded areas must now go to the board.

To be more specific, the property on Oppen Lane wasn't in the wetlands, It was called out by the neighbor because the property is in the NHESP area. And so is the neighbor.

What a nightmare
10:55 pm edt 

Re: " Vista Pruning"

 

You really do not have any rights to touch a tree or bush on your property without permission. According to Con Com even  a dead tree is considered food and refuge for birds and beneficial insects must be protected ,despite threat to people (which happened two weeks ago outside Boston when two people were killed by a falling tree that crashed  their car).... this was said at a Con Com meeting I attended.

10:52 pm edt 

Re: " Vista Pruning"

"Tell me more.  i was unaware that one could be fined for pruning trees on their own property for what ever the reason.   What if i just dont like to rake leaves?  i gotta get permission from some board now?   How is this possible?   Can someone point me to the bylaw or ordinance that prevents a property owner from gardening as they see fit on their own property?  I really need to know as its getting close to the time i trim my hedges. "

Knowing the bylaw is YOUR responsibility, so instead of being lazy, start reading!
10:51 pm edt 

RE: Vista Pruning

Tell me more.  i was unaware that one could be fined for pruning trees on their own property for what ever the reason.   What if i just dont like to rake leaves?  i gotta get permission from some board now?   How is this possible?   Can someone point me to the bylaw or ordinance that prevents a property owner from gardening as they see fit on their own property?  I really need to know as its getting close to the time i trim my hedges.
6:11 pm edt 

Central House @ the Crown

We are open Monday May 2, for our annual TOWNIE party and invite all loyal patrons of the Crown and our local business owners and their respective staffs to join us for sampling of Executive Chef Michele Ragussis, new Spring Menu! 5:30 till 8:30 or thereabouts, Complimentary FOOD and discounted beverage options. We have been open since early February and we appreciate all our "locals" who supported us this year and in years past. Bill and I are looking forward to a great season and wish all our "new Culinary establishments" such as Yolk, Saints and Sinners and Spindler's at the Waterford Inn the best of luck. The fantastic number of restaurants should be a huge draw for our tourist season!

Rick Murray
Crown & Anchor Inc.
1:50 pm edt 

Election

I don't care who "wins" the election.  This town has already lost, in all the ways that count.  I'm not even wasting any of my limited stamina to vote.
1:01 pm edt 

Banner Editorial

ANDREWS AND DONEGAN FOR SELECTMEN

Provincetown is facing serious challenges. We hear and talk about them all the time because they seem to be ineradicable  the eroding workforce, the dearth of affordable housing, the lopsided seasonal economy that favors transiency and quick money over more substantial, sustainable industries. In these uncertain times, the town needs leaders who acknowledge these challenges and are willing to tackle them in earnest.

At the town election next Tuesday, May 3, Provincetown voters will pick two of five candidates to fill the seats opening up on the board of selectmen.

We love a contested race. And we are grateful that five residents are willing to give up their free time  lots of time  to represent the townspeople on the board of selectmen. With board meetings that often last four hours or more, the selectmen grapple with the thorny and controversial problems that weve already mentioned, as well as more mundane tasks, such as the towns multi-million-dollar operating budget. Its an important job that shouldnt be taken lightly.

We heartily applaud finance committee member Louise Venden, residents Vincent Breglia and Gordon Siegel and current selectmen Cheryl Andrews and Tom Donegan for stepping up to run for what is a tough and often thankless office.

We strongly support the re-election of Cheryl Andrews. Shes a seasoned civic leader who has worked in many different capacities at both the local and county level. Shes been in town for nearly 30 years, considers every side of every subject before making decisions and strongly supports the Provincetown Public Pier Corp. She understands that good governance isnt about muscling an agenda through; she listens to people and isnt afraid to change her mind if new evidence is revealed. Such was the case with this years revamped condo conversion bylaw proposal.

Though we had hoped this bylaw would pass, because we believe something needs to happen before the entire town is built out, Andrews spoke to several residents who worried that the bylaw would ruin their retirement plans. After giving last years version of the bylaw a thumbs-up, this year Andrews voted against it. And yet shes all for affordable housing. At last weeks Candidates Night she said that the board needs to talk openly about ways to solve the crisis so that the town doesnt lose more of its people. Andrews is, above all, honest  and we endorse her wholeheartedly.

We also support the re-election of selectman chair Tom Donegan, but with some reservations. Though we appreciate his support for affordable housing, we worry about his views on the pier and the Pier Corp. Though the board of selectmen unanimously voted for the memorandum of understanding between the town and the Pier Corp. in August 2015, Donegan later followed Selectman Bobby Anthonys lead and voted to virtually disband it in 2017. We think Donegan should support the Pier Corp. and Harbormaster-Pier Manager Rex McKinsey rather than fight against them. We hope that his stance evolves and that he stops playing follow the leader.

Louise Venden has been on the finance committee since 2014 and is doing a good job. We think she should continue to serve on that committee for the time being. Shes lived in town year-round for only four years and living here through the winter a bit longer can only serve her well.


BANNER PICKS DONEGAN AND ANDREWS

We think substantial service on other town committees should be a prerequisite for being elected as selectman. Both Vincent Breglia and Gordon Siegel have very little experience in Provincetown government. Breglia has served only on the beautifi cation committee, which he admitted that he quit because he didnt get along with its chair. We are further concerned about his threatening behavior toward his neighbors and town officials, as reported in last weeks Banner. Such conduct does not befit a leader of the town.

Siegel has been on and off the finance committee. He quit one year into his last three-year term, he said last week, because he got in an argument with its former chair, Tom Donegan. Wed like to see him finish out a term on that board or another regulatory board before sitting on the board of selectmen.

That both Breglia and Siegel resigned from their committees because they couldnt get along with the chairs does not bode well for their candidacy for the board of selectmen
12:53 pm edt 

Homeowner Fined For Vista Pruning Trees

 

I am sad to hear about a homeowner being fined for vista pruning trees on their property after a neighbor turned them in. The neighbor has probably done vista pruning themselves. It is a very poorly kept secret about how many do this. In the west end between properties in Highland Moors, Meadowview and Telegraph Hill you can see all the trees that are continually pruned to keep vistas. Just seems unfair that one owner gets fined and all the others do not.

12:51 pm edt 

Hillary is For All Americans

She stands, as she did as Secretary of ?State, to represent our country. she is professional, bright, and competent. It's time for a woman president and she is the right person at the right time.

Accusations that she is corrupt or inept are just that: vile accusations and not the truth. Remember, she was right in the past when she saw "the right wing conspiracy" against her. There was dark  money behind the Arkansas investigation and the Vincent foster accusation that he was murdered. it was Scaife money and he even admitted it.

The right wing continues to demean and vilify her. Don't fall for it!
12:49 pm edt 

Provincetown Police

I just want to thank the Provincetown Police for all of the good work they've done. They make us safe, protected and they deserve a special nod for serving us well. I've been a supporter from Chief Mayer to Chief Golden. They have been friends and co-townies. They deserve our encouragement. I SUPPORT THE POLICE!!!
8:54 am edt 

Tuesday is Election Day!! - Vote For Change!

 

Next Tuesday is the chance for the town to refocus its energy on the future.  Get out of the non-performing rut we are currently in.

Vote for two of these candidates for change.
Vincent Breglia
Gordon Siegel
or
Louise Venden

8:52 am edt 

School

Agreed,  Who's brain storm was that?  Let's not keep soaking money into a building that is endless..  Very poor planning once again...
8:50 am edt 

Wednesday, April 27, 2016

Richard Rogers Posted on Provincetown Beacon
 
 
April 27 at 5:09pm
 
Still waiting for Donegal's [Tom Donegan] fan boys to tell us his accomplishments and why he should be re elected...i guess there haven't been any
11:16 pm edt 

Re: Thelma and Louise--

 

A good choice for a good town. Wow! Sounds like a political campaign slogan! Really you think so, sound stupid to me.

10:51 pm edt 

School

Seems to me they should have used VMES instead of the old high school. VMES was less of a relic than the high school. The high school needed/needs extensive work. Who was the numbskull that made that decision??
10:50 pm edt 

I'm Not Ready For Hillary....Either

Yeah, it's unfortunate we don't have a democratic candidate that doesn't represent us men. Everyone else is represented except us. All you hear about is abortion, equality for women, and equal pay. Men don't even have a forum. As far as equal pay goes, my ex boss was making $140K per year. I wasn't even making half that. This election is crock.
10:48 pm edt 

Re: Hillary....Really??

You hear everything about what Hillary will do for women.  What about what she'll do for men and gays???

Probably not much considering hubby signed into law (which was overturned later) DOMA. Don't tell me they didn't have discussions on the matter prior to his signing.
10:46 pm edt 

Now Men Are a Minority

And I suppose being white is now a disadvantage. If you're white and male and feel like a failure, then you have only yourself to blame. You are not socially and culturally disadvantaged just a poor planner or a poor thinker.
10:44 pm edt 

Re: Schools

What planet do you live on? The VMES building now houses the rec department, the council on aging and the DPW offices and pre school. Where would you put grades k-8 there? 
10:23 am edt 

Hillary....Really??

You hear everything about what Hillary will do for women.  What about what she'll do for men and gays??? What is her stand on gays anyway? Men are the forgotten minority. How disgusting only one gender is being represented in this election.
10:08 am edt 

Tuesday, April 26, 2016

Louise A. Venden - Facebook
   
 
 
 

Listened to Hillary's speech in Philadelphia, and couldn't agree with her more....the future belongs to those who embrace diversity, invite all to participate and seek to join together, not divide us. There is no Town better poised to succeed in supporting robust economic and housing diversity while preserving the magical environment we share everyday.
One Provincetown.

11:42 pm edt 

Count Me In! Thelma and Louise!

Sounds like the right votes and the right choices for us.

Thelma and Louise--a good choice for a good town. Wow! Sounds like a political campaign slogan!
11:37 pm edt 

Schools.

Why don't they move the handful of kids to the VMES?  That would save a lot of money..  Less teachers, less money being spent....
11:35 pm edt 

Re: Donegan - Will Change the Fire Department

 

Bull I Don't Believe it's a Thankless Job

running for selectman is important and --if done right--is one people appreciate. But--if you do what you want with the power you gain--of course it's thankless since the only thanks is you for you and nothing for the rest of us.

8:11 pm edt 

Re: Enough Already!!

The tiles are down due to work their doing! But there is no heat in the building! It's a scary looking place for our kids to be!!
4:11 pm edt 

It's Time For - Thelma and Louise!!

 

It's time for Cheryl and Louise--and a remake of the classic film. they don't go off the edge--they help rescue this town from Tom Weinress Donegan! They help rescue us from the New York second home owner, from this half-time, no time selectmen.

so here's to: Thelma and Louise! It's a vote for Victory!

4:10 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Schools!!!

 

Schools.  Do you really think a project the size of the school one would have no safety over site? Like from the state, OSHA, our own town Buildung Conmissionet and like three project managers ?  Think it's being done with safety number one for the kids.  Just FYI

4:07 pm edt 

No Leadership From the BOS - Tom Donegan

 

We could have bought Fishermen's Pier for the Monies We Have spent on a School Building

We have spent millions and millions and for what? for a building? We no longer have a high school yet spend each year almost as much as we did when we had an active high schools with high school students. But now, we pour our  monies into a building--$7 million last fall and $1 million last year for "pointing" the brick and millions before for other structural problems, as the administrators still take and take. theya re great at presentations and great at asking for more and more monies--in the name of our children--of which we have fewer and fewer.

What a better deal had we bought Cabral's Wharf and/or Duarte's parking lot. Now what do we have for all that money spent?

More problems! Poor thinking. Poor decision making. No leadership from the BOS. They just trudge along and pull us with them!

4:06 pm edt 

Re: Donegan - Will Change the Fire Department

 

Wouldn't it be nice if all the new folks volunteered as firefighters instead of getting in boards to impress themselves

4:03 pm edt 

Re: Enough Already

 

Do you really think you can build a school for $7 million? Nantucket had to build a new school because its population of kids went up by 50 percent and it cost $45 million.   The repairs Are for heating system from the 1930's.  Talk about deferred maintenance.   The $7 million cost is offset by s $3.5 million dollar grant from the state.  You need to do a little fact checking !

4:01 pm edt 

Re: Donegan - Will Change the Fire Department

 

YES, DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ.

THE VOTERS WILL DECIDE WHICH WAY TO GO..............FINGERS CROSSED.

NOT A GREAT TIME TO BE RUNNING FOR OFFICE, A THANKLESS JOB AND LIKE HAVING A TARGET ON YOUR BACK.

BUT SOMEONE HAS TO DO IT.

3:57 pm edt 

Enough Already

 

$7 million dollars! That is what was allocated for repairs to the school last year. Enough.....there is a limit as to how much should be spent on that building. If ceiling tiles are now falling, fix them with the money already set aside. We could have built a new school by now. Really poor management of our money by someone. Please do not turn this into the you hate children crusade.

9:18 am edt 

Vote Donegan Out!!

 

Tell Donegan to stay in NYC and leave our volunteer firefighters alone.  Vote him out.

8:41 am edt 

Selectmen - It's Time For a Change

It's clear from town meeting that the current Selectmen are not listening to residents and instead follow their own agenda.  Their warrant articles were so out of step with the will of the voters it was startling.

Vote for two of the three:
Breglia, Siegal or Venden
8:38 am edt 

Monday, April 25, 2016

Provincetown Schools!!!

Provincetown schools should be ashamed of themselves having students in their building while the ceiling tiles aare falling down. It is a health issue with the the students being exposed to all of the stuff above, where the tiles use to be!! Their breathing in insulation and who knows what!! I thought they were there for our children, not harming them!!
11:12 pm edt 

Re: Donegan - Will Change the Fire Department

"Because you'll have to do better than that for those of us who know what's going on. There are NO changes for the Fire Department planned for the near or mid-term future."


Apparently you don't know what's going on in the fire department. There have been changes and as a matter of fact, there are less fire fighters now than there were a month ago. Why you ask? Ask your chief. Less people means less coverage at the station. Less people responding to the calls. Less protection for the town.

Go ahead, ask the chief. See what he says.
8:49 pm edt 

Re: Donegan - Will Change the Fire Department

"I heard Donegan is pushing for changes in Fire Dept.  if this part-time rsident/Selectman  gets his way we will likely lose our volunteer fire department and that could cost millions."

Did you hear that from the same people that said that Dan Hoort got the job in Wellfleet? How'd that rumor turn out? Donegan isn't doing anything with the Fire Department. Is this crazy scare-rumor time? Because you'll have to do better than that for those of us who know what's going on. There are NO changes for the Fire Department planned for the near or mid-term future. IF, however, the fire facility in Barnstable is closed, that may mean something different. If you're going to start rumors, try something real. And he's also not part-time. Boy people posting here are really sinking to new lows. What is this, the Beacon now?
7:47 pm edt 

Vote No on Donegan!

 

Leave the volunteer fire department as it is.  We are lucky to have them and Donegan should stay out of it.

4:44 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort - Provincetown Finance Director

 

I read it on mypacc so I knew it was true.  That was dumb of me.  I called Dan Hoort to congratulate him on his new position this morning.  He is a finalist, but has not been chosen for the job.  Wellfleet Selectmen will conduct their interviews on Tuesday, May 3rd.

I wished him well instead.

3:09 pm edt 

Re: David Panagore - New Financial Director?

 

"You hardly know the inner circle and those who influence Panagore. It is David Gardner and he is the whisperer. As for the McPherson, call her what you want, but she is the little girl who gets her way and influences Panagore. Sad to say but look at the warrant. Where do you think these rather awful articles came from? Look at Gardner, look at McPherson, a town planner without even an advanced degree. But still...temper tantrums and all work, and she often gets her way." 

Staying civil in the face of this kind of BS is not easy.  It is the BOS that builds the warrant not Gardner or McPherson's dog not even the manager.  They all have input just as you do if you could actually try to be constructive instead of sniping behind your keyboard.  All of your characterizations are so Trump-like.  Ugly. Ugly. Ugly.  "whisperer"!!  How totally, foolishly stupid.

By the way when did it become immoral to try to influence others?  You do it by posting your drivel. 

12:55 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort - Provincetown Finance Director

 

"Maybe Dan Hort could explain before he leaves why there are so many people who only have to work 4 days a weak but get paid the same as my sister who works full time. Try seeing the town planner, the health inspector, the assessor and others on a Friday. Good Luck. Why is all this money being stolen from the town?"

How ignorantly stupid is this?  How dramatic with implying a crime (stolen?)  Hoort had/has nothing to do with it.  It is a town policy.  Policy is set by the BOS and executed by the Manager.  The employees still work "full time" no matter what your tiny mean-spirited intellect wants to think. 

12:52 pm edt 

Donegan - Will Change the Fire Department

 

What people won't realize for a few years is that this group of Selectmen and Town Manager are going to end up costing the town hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I don't know if the finance director is being pushed out, but his replacement is going to cost more.  I heard Donegan is pushing for changes in Fire Dept.  if this part-time rsident/Selectman  gets his way we will likely lose our volunteer fire department and that could cost millions.

12:50 pm edt 

Re: David Panagore - New Financial Director?

 

Sorry Kid but you are the One who is clueless

You hardly know the inner circle and those who influence Panagore. It is David Gardner and he is the whisperer. As for the McPherson, call her what you want, but she is the little girl who gets her way and influences Panagore. Sad to say but look at the warrant. Where do you think these rather awful articles came from? Look at Gardner, look at McPherson, a town planner without even an advanced degree. But still...temper tantrums and all work, and she often gets her way.

10:39 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort - Provincetown Finance Director

 

Contract negations with town employees  brought about a 4.5 day work week, half day on Friday. Sharon Lynn was the town manager at the time. Town Hall employees still work a 40 hour week. Move on to another topic or voice your concerns when contracts are negotiated again.

10:35 am edt 

David Panagore - New Financial Director?

 

D. Panagore doesn't follow D Gardner's direction and Gloria is rarely in the office.  If he has to hire a new finance director it will be his decision only.  

Geez, do you people not have a clue?

7:21 am edt 

Sunday, April 24, 2016

David Panagore - New Financial Director?

 

Panagore now has the chance to hire his own financial director

on his terms--not David Gardner's and not Gloria McPherson, both who control many of his decisions.

What will Panagore do? Will he hire his own person--or hire a Gardner twin?

Time will tell.

8:07 pm edt 

Re: Tom Donegan - BOS Candidate

 

If there Had Been A Candidate's Night, Well Donegan Wouldn't be Able to Attend

He is back home. He is New York. Provincetown is an aside but still he is running to be selectman. shows how little respect he has for us. Being here half-time for him is long enough. He doesn't need a full commitment. Half commitment is more than enough.

And half of anything is what we will get.

Donegan is treating the town with disdain.

8:03 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort - Provincetown Finance Director

 

"So glad to know that they want you. good for you and---good for us here in Provincetown.  Glad to see you gain this position and--glad to see you go!"


You're just being petty and to be honest stupid.  Like him or not he did a great job god the town.

8:00 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort - Provincetown Finance Director

 

If you got issues with work schedules Hoort isn't the one to ask, check with the town manager.  if he gets the position good for him if that's what he wants.

6:30 pm edt 

Herring Cove Dunes

I chose to take my lunch break at Herring Cove. While eating my sandwich I was amazed at the number of people trampling the dunes. There was even a man who was using a buggy board to make the dune into a slide for the kids. I looked and didn't seen any signs telling people to stay off the dunes. The National Seashore organization needs to provide signage and enforce it. They just drove past those individuals as if nothing was wrong. Erosion is naturally taking place. We don't need people, whether they are aware of it or not, helping to accelerate the erosion process.
12:51 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort - Provincetown Finance Director

 

Maybe Dan Hort could explain before he leaves why there are so many people who only have to work 4 days a weak but get paid the same as my sister who works full time. Try seeing the town planner, the health inspector, the assessor and others on a Friday. Good Luck. Why is all this money being stolen from the town?

12:50 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort - Provincetown Finance Director

 

Goodbye, good Luck!

So glad to know that they want you. good for you and---good for us here in Provincetown.  Glad to see you gain this position and--glad to see you go! Au Voire!

12:48 pm edt 

Tom Donegan - BOS Candidate

 

You can tell a lot about Donegan's character through this campaign.  He has the dogs out attacking his opponents because he knows he can't run in his own record.

Totally inappropriate for Yingling to be up asking questions at candidate's night to try and knock down Donegan's opponents.  Complete silence from Donegan.

Donegan is working in lock step with Banner reporters to discredit those running against him.  Silence from Donegan.

I ran into two town employees and asked who they were voting for.  One said Breglia and Siegal, the other said either Venden, Breglia or Siegal.  Both said what we have right now isn't working, it's time for change.

I'd have to agree with their assessment.

12:46 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort - Provincetown Finance Director

 

If Hoort gets the Wellfleet position I wish him the best.  I think It could be  difficult it will get to fill that position.  The position pays well by Provincetown standards, but considering our cost of living compared to the salary it will be hard to get someone to move here.

12:45 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort - Provincetown Finance Director

 

'The hoort' sounds like he still has fans among him or in the basement.

12:43 pm edt 

Saturday, April 23, 2016

Re: Dan Hoort - Provincetown Finance Director

It's Official Dan Hoort  is the winner for Wellfleet Town Administrator position!
 
Good Luck Dan! 

5:00 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort = Provincetown Finance Director

 

Let's Just Hope the Hoort Gets the Position

and then he can spend his time in Wellfleet, helping the poor souls there.

Let's hope they want the Hoort. Oh, yeah!

4:56 pm edt 

Friday, April 22, 2016

Dan Hoort - Provincetown Finance Director

 

HOORT IS FINALIST FOR JOB OF WELLFLEET TOWN ADMINISTRATOR

Provincetown Finance Director Dan Hoort is one of three finalists for the job of Wellfleet town administrator, the search committee has announced. He is the only one of the three who lives on the Outer Cape. Hoort last year proposed creating a private real estate investment trust in Provincetown as a solution to the local affordable housing crisis.


The other two finalists are George King of Framingham, a former Framingham town manager and currently assistant superintendent of the Nashoba Regional School District in central Mass. and principal of the Hale Middle School in Stow, Mass.; and Paul Dauphinais of Wasilla, Alaska, the executive director of the Alaska Public Offices Commission. Dauphinais is a retired U.S. Navy officer and former president of a junior college in Maryland.


Wasilla, a city of about 8,000 people near Anchorage, launched the political career of Sarah Palin, who served as its mayor before being elected governor.


See next Thursday's Banner for more details.

7:47 am edt 

Re: Bradford Street Repavement

If you figure you're going to soil yourself       , cross Bradford and go to Commercial down Bangs. Its safer and quite frankly, a much more pleasant thought.
7:00 am edt 

Candidates Night

 

Why give the candidates the questions?

How ridiculous. I was wondering why some were reading the answer. Now I know.

that's not a real candidate's night. It more like a high school presentation. Locution. Vocabulary. but surely not thinking!

who's idea was this? Sounds spontaneous but it is programmed, rehearsed and phony.

12:22 am edt 

Provincetown Banner - Letter to the Editor

 

Was MaryJo's letter to the editor published in the Banner?

I didn't see it. Did anyone else?

12:21 am edt 

Re: Banner Quote From Tom Donegan - BOS Candidate

 

Hatch is correct that there is a seasonal licensing position that was added to the budget.   I found that, it says it's a compliance officer.

Hatch and Donegan are both incorrect when they say we have funded a part-time economic development position.  I looked up where he said it was and it says nothing about hiring another staff person to work on economic development.  Is he now saying they are hiring a staff person and they slipped it by voters?

12:18 am edt 

Thursday, April 21, 2016

Re: Sent to the Banner

 

For the record: my problem wasn't the questions being asked of the candidates. It was the fact that the candidates were given them in advance making it difficult to distinguish between them.

Mary-Jo Avellar

9:35 am edt 

Re: Banner Quote From Tom Donegan - BOS Candidate

"It seems FinCom Hatch doesn't know what town meeting votes on.   Mr. Hatch, please tell us where the economic development manager is in the budget.  Please tell us the name of the person who is in that job.

Here's a clue: it doesn't exist in the budget and there is no such position."


123 Town Manager's budget line B2 20,000 "to expand its economic development efforts including, but not limited to, grant writing efforts, demographic analysis, etc"

In addition, 100k was allocated for a Community Health Liaison in 2017, and there is a part-time position for licensing enforcement in 2017. (since I saw something about hires elsewhere and these positions are not regular full-time employees, but are, never-the-less funded and were voted on)

I'd suggest actually looking at a copy of the budget before you post, or at least pay attention to the section of Town Meeting where these are discussed.

Mark Hatch
7:08 am edt 

Bradford Street Repavement

It is good that Bradford Street has been resurfaced.  Now vehicles can go a bit faster, especially down Miller Hill where there are no sidewalks and anyone walking there is exposed to extreme danger. Who is making these decisions in town and not doing anything to account for the safety of pedestrians (by not including a sidewalk  in many areas, especially between Brewster St. and Pricilla Alden Rd.). Whoever, is in charge of this should be forced to walk up and down this portion of Bradford Street until he or she soils their pants due to the fear of getting hit by a car.
7:06 am edt 

Wednesday, April 20, 2016

Re: Sent to the Banner

Gee, seems like someone got their nose bent out of shape. It's not called "Meet the Moderator (again) Night" you know. Who's to say your questions would be any better or even good?
5:17 pm edt 

Richard Rogers
 
 
April 20 at 9:20am
 

" After viewing the candidates forum i have this to say: i thought cheryl did well as was Gordon Siegel. Too bad Gordon is running with a team mate, he would do better election day without the baggage. His partner was terrible. worse than Donegan. read everything from a script and never made eye contact. after that performance the guy should withdraw and endorse Gordon. Ron Robin was very pushy. the event felt odd with a rushed vibe."

Arm chair quarterback member

11:02 am edt 

Sent to the Banner
 
To the editor:

 Last evening's candidates' night hit an all time low on the boredom scale. Because the candidates had been given the questions in advance, they failed to engage the audience as they kept their eyes down while reading their pre-prepared responses. Except for a couple of questions from the audience, little opportunity presented itself to actually distinguish the differences between these five, well-meaning but badly served by the format candidates.
 How much better it would have been to have allowed the candidates to be surprised by the moderator's questions. To have the candidates actually think on their feet.To have them engage in colloquy with one another with the added bonus, perhaps, of giving them the opportunity to actually question each other. With five candidates vying for two seats on the board of selectmen, I expected some spontaneity at least instead of the yawn fest most of us experienced last night. 
 
Mary-Jo Avellar
10:52 am edt 

Candidates Night Meeting - Opinion

 

Hands down the two best candidates at yesterday's forum were Tom and Louise. That's not going to be a popular opinion here, but to anyone sitting in that room or watching on TV, it had to be clear that they were the most qualified, smartest and best prepared on that stage.

9:10 am edt 

Re: Banner Quote from Tom Donegan - BOS Candidate

 

I'm curious if Donegan is really so out of touch with the town that he does or doesn't know if we have a economic development staff person next year.  And Mr Hatch agrees with him.  Can someone clear it up once and for all?

9:08 am edt 

Erik Yingling - BOS Candidates Meeting

 

Watching Yingling's question at the candidate's forum he is such an embarrassment to the BOS.  We all need to work to make sure this child never represents us again.  And he's too ignorant to realize it.

9:06 am edt 

Re: Residential Exemption:

 

"Although it is  wonderful that full time residents are getting a tax break, the way the town is doing it is really stupid." 

If you look on your property card, the assessed value is what it is.  It's only on the tax bill that it is netted out.

9:03 am edt 

Re: Banner Quote from Tom Donegan - BOS Candidate

 

He is apparently oblivious to what is happening in town.  I asked two staff people who fills that position and neither were aware that any such position exist."

Answer:
"This economic development position will be created in the new fiscal year which begins in July."


Please show us where in budget this new position is included.  I called in to town hall today and was told there aren't any new positions in next year's budget.  I said 'are you sure'?  And the gentleman repeated there are no new positions in the next year's budget.

9:01 am edt 

Tuesday, April 19, 2016

Residential Exemption:

Although it is  wonderful that full time residents are getting a tax break, the way the town is doing it is really stupid.  Rather than deducting the value of the tax break from the taxes due (as is done in Boston and other towns with the same program), they seem to have just lowered the assessed value of  the house.   This makes all our properties appear less valuable than our neighbors and lowers a possible selling price if one needs to put the house up for sale.   I really hope the town re-evaluates how they are implementing this resident exemption program.
4:20 pm edt 

Re: Banner Quote from Tom Donegan - BOS Candidate

 

It seems FinCom Hatch doesn't know what town meeting votes on.   Mr. Hatch, please tell us where the economic development manager is in the budget.  Please tell us the name of the person who is in that job.

Here's a clue: it doesn't exist in the budget and there is no such position.

3:28 pm edt 

Re: Thanks For the Help

"I didn't know who I was supporting in the BoS election until I came here. If you negative, paranoid, anonimity-loving freaks at MyPACC are against Tom D, that's who I'll be voting for! Thanks for the help."


Oh the irony in that post.
12:22 pm edt 

FinCom

 

Maybe It's time Fincom Stops Denoucing MyPacc posters

Time to stop calling those who post here ignorant. If your on Fincom, then you need to post less and when you do, stop denigrating voters.

12:20 pm edt 

Re: Tom Donegan - BOS Candidate

 

D is for Disaster

He has been a major disappointment. something happened to him in being a selectman and it is sad and tragic. It seems it is all about him and his sidekick and nothing much about the town as a whole. He has a distorted sense of priorities.

D is for disaster.

10:18 am edt 

Re: Hilary Clinton

 

"Clinton just committed herself to allocate federal funds to affordable housing."

From the Clinton campaign press release on this subject:

...Build more affordable rental housing near good jobs and good schools....

Got that: "near good jobs" - that isn't here in our seasonal economy. 

8:54 am edt 

Thanks For the Help

 

I didn't know who I was supporting in the BoS election until I came here. If you negative, paranoid, anonimity-loving freaks at MyPACC are against Tom D, that's who I'll be voting for! Thanks for the help.

8:49 am edt 

Re: Banner Quote from Tom Donegan - BOS Candidate


"He is apparently oblivious to what is happening in town.  I asked two staff people who fills that position and neither were aware that any such position exist."

Answer:
This economic development position will be created in the new fiscal year which begins in July.


"you should at least vote for someone that lives in provincetown."


Answer:
According to his friends and neighbors, Mr. Donegan lives in Provincetown full time. 
8:47 am edt 

Monday, April 18, 2016

Re: Hilary Clinton

 

"am voting for Hillary and she can beat either Trump or Crazy Cruz."

She's certainly wiser than most of the dingalings here, who keep posting about their opposition for affordable housing. 

Clinton just committed herself to allocate federal funds to affordable housing.  Smart of her!

11:12 pm edt 

I Too Am For Hillary

She has the experience and knowledge and it's time for a woman to be president. I am voting for Hillary and she can beat either Trump or Crazy Cruz.
3:03 pm edt 

Recreation Department

There are two sides to every story. In our current world where every child "wins" an "Attendance trophy" just for showing up, I can't help but wonder what is really going on.

So, your PRECIOUS DARLING OF THE GOLDEN DAWN complained. Why not have an adult conversation and go in person and inquire, nicely, and just ask about the treatment of children.

Suddenly disciplining someone seems like child abuse it seems. 
3:02 pm edt 

Banner Quote from Tom Donegan - BOS Candidate

"2) Economic development. 
We added a part-time economic development manager to assist the town manager build back the economy."


He is apparently oblivious to what is happening in town.  I asked two staff people who fills that position and neither were aware that any such position exist.

Someone who lives in NYC half the time is having a difficult time knowing what is going on in the town he supposedly calls home.  Whoever you vote for I would suggest they be a full time Provincetown resident who actually knows what is going on in town.
3:00 pm edt 

Richard Rogers Posted on Provincetown Banner
   
 
April 18 at 11:25am
 
"wtf with the vfw rental? Doesn't something like that have to go to bid? I might be wrong. I wonder what the rental fee is? If over $10k does it have to go to bid?" non member seeking answers
12:43 pm edt 

Recreation Department

So....  I learned recently about how the rec department operates as far as favorites go.  When I was first told, I thought maybe it was because there are so many kids that they need to reprimand them accordingly.  But, then I learned, that if your child is not liked by the counselors, he/she always gets in trouble by staff for any little thing they do.  I have been told this by several past counselors very recently and  One of the mean ones is still employed (summer only) as she is a student.

I am trying to decide how I am going to handle the matter.  Should I go directly to the Rec Director (who is unreasonable and seems to take sides) or do I go directly to the Town Manager.

This is not a one time issue.  This has been on going... With the summer season approaching,  it is time the recreation director and his staff are monitored by not just kids who counsel but adults....  In closing, you know who you are and if you don't others sure do cuz several have spread the word......
11:50 am edt 

Counting Blessing

Some countries have known nothing but strife and warfare for decades.

We live in a first world country in one of America's most beautiful resort towns. There are no outward threats--only policy issues that create such a world wind of discord.

How other's must be so envious or our position in life and how thankful we should be.
11:48 am edt 

Re: Sanders Can't Win But Hillary Can


"Time to vote for a woman who knows power and will be a great president.  Time to stand with Hillary. She has proven herself a leader."


Yeah, you keep believing that....
11:47 am edt 

Talk About a Bad Deal for Our town

when that building was sold, it was worth about $ 2 million then and many in town wanted the town to keep that school building. We could have used when town hall was being renovated and not paid hundreds of thousands for trailers. We could use now when the police station is built or renovated. Many saw this town property as a place for education courses, for non-profits to meet, and to serve as a great venue for new and exciting ideas. But quickly--so quickly--the building was sold for so little. good for coastal Studies but rather an awful deal for the town. $800,000? It was the wrong deal if anyone wanted to consider the benefit to and for the town.

and we will do this again and again. I see it for the community Center. It's called a give a way and this town is an expert at this tragic game. Same as we did--quickly and quickly we sold the Grace Goveia building. And who gained? the developers, the outsiders--not the town.
11:46 am edt 

Wayne Martin Posted on Provincetown Beacon
 
 
 
 
By the way has anybody have info on the Duarte's property proposals-plans? Have they been approved or is it still pending?
8:55 am edt 

Sunday, April 17, 2016

Sanders Can't Win But Hillary Can

Time to vote for a woman who knows power and will be a great president.

Time to stand with Hillary. She has proven herself a leader.
11:34 pm edt 

From: Wayne Mertin - Posted on the Provincetown Beacon
 
Selectmen Yingling it's hilarious that you ask my girlfriend to like your buddy Tom's campaign page. That just shows how out of touch you really are! All the problems we were and still are having with certain town employees which we made all of you aware of and left several messages to the Chair and none of you especially him would give us the time of day! Now you want us to support you! You've been hittin the pipe to much if you ever think that we will support-campaign for any of you again
9:03 pm edt 

Vincent & Gordon - BOS Candidates

 

I don't know Vincent or Gordon personally, but just from witnessing how they speak at public forums, how they write on social media, and how they represent their candidacies around town, they just seem to be ... a little strange? Not in the good, Provincetown weirdo sort of way. There's just a pugnacious, aggressive negativity about them. They seem to be against a whole lot. But they haven't explained their vision for town or why they think they'd bring something positive to the board. Or am I missing something?

And what's with them running as a couple? Does no one else find it just weird? One isn't even distinguishing himself from the other. So they'll just vote the same way on everything? Agree on everything? They want to take up two spots with the "same person" when we could elect two different people who would bring different ideas and skill sets to the table? Everything about their campaign is just weird. 

The back and forth about the parking spot seems to illustrate all of this in one episode. Maybe the allegations are true, maybe they're not. But it's just weird and drama-filled. I don't see how people who seem to be surrounded with that type of negative strangeness would represent our town well.

It also boggles my mind that a business leader like the owner of the Crown and Anchor would align himself with such strange characters. But I guess he has a reputation of being an aggressive, snooping bully himself. So maybe they make a good team.

8:53 pm edt 

Re: Why Isn't the Plan of VFW Public?

 

If the VFW is Available For Renting, then Let Us All Know


Controversy where none exists.  The coastal center needed a space for a short time and asked the town if it were possible.  The town is helping them out while the VFW building is still standing.  Nothing wrong with that.

8:50 pm edt 

Re: Why Isn't the Plan of VFW Public?

No, it's more about you needing treatment for your proclivity to see conspiracies everywhere, and try to control stuff that's none of your business.  Go buy a tin hat and hide in your basement

"This is another hidden deal. How much are they paying? Why them and not some other non-profit? Why?"

It's about transparency, a term and a position almost foreign to this town's government.
8:46 pm edt 

Re: Why Isn't the Plan of VFW Public?

 

If the VFW is Available For Renting, then Let Us All Know

And then let those interested in renting the VFW either put in bids or apply to rent. This is another hidden deal. How much are they paying? Why them and not some other non-profit? Why?

It's about transparency, a term and a position almost foreign to this town's government.

10:54 am edt 

Banner: Letter to the Editor

 

Yes, I Agree: That letter to the editor given the political times should not have been published

There are many letters the Banner does not publish. this should have been discarded. they are weighing in on the politics and the election of selectmen and you are right, they should not have published this derogatory letter.

10:53 am edt 

Re: Why Isn't the Plan of VFW Public?

 

 "If coastal studies is going to rent it--why not leave it open for any rentals? why not bring it back to what it had been--a wonderful place of weddings, anniversaries, parties. why, coastal Studies? Remember we "gave" them that building for $850,000 and now it would be on the market for $3 million. and some of us tried to keep that place for community events, for courses, for continuing education. But no--we gave it away for a mere $800,000.  and now coastal Studies will be renting the VFW--why? and why them?  why wasn't this place open for other options"


Are you crazy, or just incredibly stupid?  CCS is 40 years old, and PAID $850,000 for the building!  Nobody GAVE them the property.  Have you visited it lately?  They NEED space, as with all the different projects they work on, they are falling over each other and the equipment due to incredibly cramped space!! Since they are one of the best and bullshit-free nonprofits in town, why SHOULDN'T they get access to renting an empty rental space??  Plus, seeing as they contribute to the economy by attracting tourists fascinated by whales and sea life, I'd say they've earned the right over the years.  Personally, I'd say that they're a much more valuable asset than another "party place".

"If coastal studies is going to rent it--why not leave it open for any rentals? why not bring it back to what it had been--a wonderful place of weddings, anniversaries, parties. why, coastal Studies? Remember we "gave" them that building for $850,000 and now it would be on the market for $3 million. and some of us tried to keep that place for community events, for courses, for continuing education. But no--we gave it away for a mere $800,000.  and now coastal Studies will be renting the VFW--why? and why them?  why wasn't this place open for other options"

9:24 am edt 

Re: Tom Donegan - BOS Candidate

 

I'm not a Donegan supporter, I think he's incapabale of leading this town which he really doesn't know very well.  And I think his supporters actions are slimy.  However, I would not say he is dishonest or in a developer's pocket, those accusations are off base.

9:08 am edt 

Saturday, April 16, 2016

New Low For the Banner - Political Assassination

As if it couldn't get any worse over there the publishing of the letter in the Banner about the candidates for selectman with one sided allegations of a summer dispute is irresponsible and lower than low. I don't think Sally would have done it. I heard there have been cuts, firing and walkouts at the Banner and I think they're down to Kayaimi and good ol' Ann Wood...maybe that's how it happened. irresponsible "journalism". I think Vincent and Gordon are owed an apology.
10:21 pm edt 

Re: Erik Yingling

 

I Have a New term of Erik Yingling and It  ain't codify

there are many terms for his eratic and unstable behavior and his one-item thinking--if it is called thinking. There is a level of plain stupidity that brings down our entire board of selectmen. He is a man with a child's brain.

10:20 pm edt 

Codify"? Really?

What in the world would this person codify? He hardly knows the law; he hardly respects bylaws; he is ignorant of legal issues.

So what would or could Pee Wee Yingling codify? Even cooking recipes are outside his field of expertise.

Dirt--maybe he could codify dirt. but even this is a maybe.
10:18 pm edt 

Re: Tom Donegan - BOS Candidate - Nasty Tactics

 

"Now a Palm Springs supporter of Donegan writes a nasty letter to the Banner with half truths about a parking confrontation."

Do you hear how silly this sounds? I don't like donegan either but your dishonesty is absurd to watch.. there are police reports supporting this summer residents claims of being threatened as verified by the banner..  Vincent breglia threatened to kill this guy...over a parking space.

10:16 pm edt 

Re: Tom Donegan

 

"Hard to know who he has been supporting but clearly it is not those who initially supported him. He has turned away from the town and is someone's pocket--perhaps some big time developer--and Donegan is doing his or their bidding."

The first sentence is true but the rest is pure nasty BS

Donegan is truly one of the most arrogant jerks in town..  but totally honest.  He has almost as much money as god so doesn't need graft.  All he needs is to feel that he is in charge and is the boss ..

10:14 pm edt 

Re: Erik Yingling

 

Actually, Yingling's new term is 'codify'. He has been quoted many time by the press in recent weeks. Im sure someone helped him look it up.

12:46 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort - Director of Finance - Breaking News !

Word on the street is that Provincetown Finance Director, Dan Hoort, has tossed his hat in the ring
for the position of Wellfleet Town Manager.
 
If true, we wish him well. Although he became embroiled in the political brouhahas of the previous town administration, to his detriment, he is quite capable and hopefully, if succesful will have learned important lessions in efficient ethical governance.
 
Good luck Dan!
9:53 am edt 

Tom Donegan - BOS Candidate - Nasty Tactics

 

How nasty this election is getting when Donegan tries to hold on to his power and Yingling supports him.  Face it, the only way the inept Yingling is vice chair is because his best buddy is chair.

Now you have a situation where Donegan supporters are smearing Vincent and Gordon to supposedly help Donegan.

A nasty anonymous e-mail was sent out by 'WS', a Donegan supporter smearing Vincent and Gordon.  Proof of that was provided by The Beacon.  'WS' now has a Donegan sign in his front yard.

Now a Palm Springs supporter of Donegan writes a nasty letter to the Banner with half truths about a parking confrontation.

Non residents of Provincetown are working to influence the campaign and Donegan, who realizes he can't run on his record, remains silent.

Do you want another three years of Donegan and his slimy tactics?  I sure don't.

9:11 am edt 

Re: Hilary Clinton

 

Hilary Clinton, who won the Presidntial Democratic Primary in Provinceton, and Massachusetts, and we supported with our sizable individual campaign contributions when she came here last summer, promised to earmark federal funds for affordable housing.  Smart call!

9:09 am edt 

Why Isn't the Plan of VFW Public?

If coastal studies is going to rent it--why not leave it open for any rentals? why not bring it back to what it had been--a wonderful place of weddings, anniversaries, parties. why, coastal Studies? Remember we "gave" them that building for $850,000 and now it would be on the market for $3 million. and some of us tried to keep that place for community events, for courses, for continuing education. But no--we gave it away for a mere $800,000.

and now coastal Studies will be renting the VFW--why? and why them?  why wasn't this place open for other options
9:08 am edt 

Tom Donegan - BOS Candidate

 

Donegan has been a disaster and a disappointment

Hard to know who he has been supporting but clearly it is not those who initially supported him. He has turned away from the town and is someone's pocket--perhaps some big time developer--and Donegan is doing his or their bidding.

Sad how being in power leaves some wanting to maxzimize their position and get for themselves the advantages of power: money, privilege, and status.

What a disappointment Thomas Donegan has been to so many of us. I am sickened by who he has turned out to be.

9:06 am edt 

Friday, April 15, 2016

Donegan Has Been a Disaster and a Disappointment

Hard to know who he has been supporting but clearly it is not those who initially supported him. He has turned away from the town and is someone's pocket--perhaps some big time developer--and Donegan is doing his or their bidding.

Sad how being in power leaves some wanting to maxzimize their position and get for themselves the advantages of power: money, privilege, and status.

What a disappointment Thomas Donegan has been to so many of us. I am sickened by who he has turned out to be.
9:44 pm edt 

Re: Tom Donegan - BOS Candidate

 

Tom Donegan-campaign slogan 'pride and heritage'

What does he take pride in? 
Heritage when he's lived here approximately ten years.  Maybe he should have used a dictionary when deciding on a slogan.

9:40 pm edt 

Ban Condo Conversion

 

BAN CONDO CONVERSIONS please BAN CONDO CONVERSIONS

If one has condos already--good for you.

When you ban condos--no more can be created and the existing properties with converted condos will become more valuable.

6:46 pm edt 

Re: Donegan Has to Go!

 

"Vincent Breglia,and Gordon Siegal, and their small band of supporters are obviously posting all the comments about Donegan,"

You are kidding, right?  What is obvious other than inability to be logical.  There is NOTHING obvious about this NOTHING at all.  Not everyone thinks that Donegan's arrogance is good for town.  

4:21 pm edt 

Sounds Like a Pee Weeisim

 

I think You're right
I think this rather odd and unscientific but appearing to be spot on term--pyschopathy--appears to be a Pee Eric Wee term. Rather funny in an odd kind of way.

2:09 pm edt 

Re: Psychopathy??

 

Is this a Yingling Pew Wee Term?

Psychopathy? ReallY? Oh, boy!


What does this even mean?

1:53 pm edt 

Re: Tom Donegsn & Cheryl Andrews

 

Vincent Breglia,and Gordon Siegal, and their small band of supporters are obviously posting all the comments about Donegan, do you actually think people believe that dozens of voters would go against the best damn Selectman, Chairman and public servant we have had in years?? Tom Donegan and Cheryl Andrews will be re-elected to the BOS. The other three candidates just have not proven they are better, and have shown a complete lack of judgement and intellect. We have a good BOS, let them finish what they have started together.

1:49 pm edt 

Re: Psychopathy??

REALLY.  Nothing to do with Yingling. It's an accurate psychological the behavior of too any in this town.  Look it up -- NOT on wikpedia...
1:47 pm edt 

Re: Lottery Rigged?

 

"Anyone who Believes they "won" the Lottery

Please---the lottery is run by Ted Malone. He controls what rabbit he pulls out of his black hat. It is totally fixed and "winning" the lottery goes to those who work for Ted Malone or who--ah how should I put it?-- who know. No one pays the developer to be the organization that picks the selected individuals. but here in Provincetown we have. It makes absolutely no sense. It is rigged."


Is the DONALD posting here.  What's with all the consiracy stuff without a shred of evidence.  Go to the legal authorities with your allegations but don't expect to get much of their time when all you have is zero real info.

1:44 pm edt 

Re: Donegan Has to Go!

 

"Never underestimate how low Donegan/Yingling will go to stay in power.  A tourist from Palm Springs comes out of the blue to slam Gordon and Vincent.  Coincidence?  No way, it's got Donegan/Yingling all over it."

Foolishness.  Donegan and the cousins should go away, but this is so stupid I am ashamed to be commenting on such shallow speculation.  

1:42 pm edt 

Re: Donegan Has to Go!

 

"Let's not be distracted by Donegan's disgusting tactics...Just not vote for him.

Donegan has to go! He is an  utter failure.

Anyone but Donegan. Break the triumvirate"


I agree that he should be defeated but this reads like it was written by Trump.  Stop with the silly, dramatic hyperbole.

1:41 pm edt 

Thursday, April 14, 2016

Donegan Has to Go!

Let's not be distracted by Donegan's disgusting tactics...Just not vote for him.
 
Donegan has to go! He is an  utter failure.
 
Anyone but Donegan. Break the triumvirate 
9:17 pm edt 

Re: Letter to the Editor

Never underestimate how low Donegan/Yingling will go to stay in power.  A tourist from Palm Springs comes out of the blue to slam Gordon and Vincent.  Coincidence?  No way, it's got Donegan/Yingling all over it.
9:12 pm edt 

Lottery Rigged?

 

Anyone who Believes they "won" the Lottery

Please---the lottery is run by Ted Malone. He controls what rabbit he pulls out of his black hat. It is totally fixed and "winning" the lottery goes to those who work for Ted Malone or who--ah how should I put it?-- who know. No one pays the developer to be the organization that picks the selected individuals. but here in Provincetown we have. It makes absolutely no sense. It is rigged.

9:10 pm edt 

Psychopathy??

 

Psychopathy?? Is this a Yingling Pew Wee Term?

Psychopathy? ReallY? Oh, boy!

9:06 pm edt 

Re: Louise Venden

In this weeks Banner, Louise Venden states that she  has lived in Ptovincetown for 23 years---15 as a non-resident and 4 as a full time homeowner.  If,
in her mind 15 and 4 add up to 23, then God help us if she is elected and is in charge of this town's finances.  Sometimes, delusion is deeply imbedded to the bone.
9:05 pm edt 

Residents and Social Media

We have several thousand residents (part time and full time and property owners). Yet the same few seem to be driving the bus.

The same few post on social media and so many bemoan their fate of being renters in Provincetown.

You could pave over pilgrim lake and create housing and it still wouldn't be enough because more and more people want to live here--but there are only so many year round jobs.

Remember, Town Hall is the biggest employer in Provincetown.

Lucky for us Provincetown is a desirable place; a tourist destination; a high end community.

Does anyone get the fact that if you ban condo conversions that the condos that do exist will skyrocket in price?

Provincetown will become more and more a town where the workers are imported during the high season, were the rich have the money to write a check and buy a house, a condo, or a restaurant.

The whole rest of the country is laid our behind us and there are multi-millionaires in every single city who can write a check and buy a condo here if they wish.

Someone once wrote about affordable housing fatigue. I can see their point-no matter what the town does, it will never be enough.

Why do people live here who are essentially draping themselves in black and moaning about their lives day after day, year after year ever since the creation of this social media in Provincetown.

These folks have ALWAYS been here--only now they can spend all of their time on social media trying to get us to feel so sorry for them and for the life that they willfully created for themselves.

They have chosen for themselves a  part time work life but demand  a full time livelihood and an income that allows them to enjoy all of their desired creature comforts of hearth and home--brought to them at the taxpayer's expense.   

9:03 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

 

"The library is pretty, it should be for 12 million bucks. We had a library, it needed to be refreshed. Now we have things in the old library that could easily be somewhere else in town. The library was a colossal waste of taxpayer money just to house a stupid ass boat."

I disagree!  The library proved to be a sanctuary for me on long winter days & nights. Thank goodness for the dvd's and the wonderful books and magazines. Who knows what I might have turned to in my loneliness. I commend the town for nurturing a wonderful escape.  It definitely is NOT a waste of taxpayer money. I will attest to that fact!!

9:00 pm edt 

Vincent Breglia Response to Letter to Editor (from FB Beacon):

Without in any way dignifying the reckless , maliciously misleading contents of the letter of ..... as published in your letter to editors section of the April 14,2016 edition, it was intentionally omitted that the subject HPO was initially sought with no prior notice to me or opportunity for my input and on the return date in court , being 10 days later , the court heard my side for the very first time and concluded that the order should immediately be vacated lacking any legal substance, merit or credibility .

This HPO was sought in furtherance of a seemingly perpetual campaign by this seasonal tenant to convert public parking spaces along Bradford Street to his private use as his seasonal, summer rental lacks any off street parking. This parking dispute had escalated to this individual constantly encroaching on my off street parking area access with attendant taunts and vulgarities intending to inflict both emotional distress and a yield a reaction which was all recorded .

The judicial finding rejecting these wasteful , bullying and malicious claims evidences the degree to which some will go to attempt to insure that their proprietary , yet unlawful , claim to public parking spaces goes unchallenged and this present attempt to resurrect this lost cause at the inception of yet another parking season in this spiteful yet incomplete missive published in your paper should be similarly rejected in the Court of Public Opinion upon due reflection of both the source , and the suspect object of his gratuitously spiteful missive.
8:58 pm edt 

Re: Tom Donegan Needs to Go

 

No more affordable housing articles! No more bylaw changes to limit condo conversions. No more demonizing second home owners. I don't give a rat's ass about letter to the editor from some dip-stick out of towner. Tom Donegan needs to go.

8:54 pm edt 

Breglia and Siegel BOS Candidates

 

Is the Crown and Anchor and Rick Murray going to allow WOMEN into the forums he is sponsoring for those two clowns, Breglia and Siegel!!??

Murray endorses the worse candidates in hopes he will have representation on the BOS that he can influence. This year he chose the wrong ones, they would turn on him in a heartbeat!
Keep them all away from our town government!

8:44 pm edt 

Re: Vincent Breglia and Gordon Siegel - BOS Candidates

 

This Breglia and Siegle run for BOS would be funny if they weren't serious. These two gentlemen are infamous for acting the fools, without even trying. Their reputation preceeds them. They are vengeful, self-serving and never attend meetings unless they are directly affected. They have been single-handedly writing disparaging posts here, because they are cowards and don't sign their posts. I am sure the voters of Provincetown are smart enough not to let these two goof-offs be taken seriously! Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!

8:42 pm edt 

Re: Vincent Breglia and Gordon Siegel - BOS Candidates

"Even the local fish wrapper is against these two crazies....LETTERS TO THE EDITOR To the editor":


An important distinction\correction here.  A letter to the editor does not represent the papers position.  It represents the opinion of the letter's writer.   An editorial from the paper would represent the "paper's" opinion.

By all means keep wrapping your fish or lining your birdcage, but don't attribute opinions of one person for the position of the institution.
11:59 am edt 

Re: Yingling Donegan Richter- Affordable Housing- 40B Flawed

 

"Plain and simple. These guys  want more and more of this type of housing that looks like hell (and they condemn and denounce every market rate condo developer) and are the "safe keepers" of this town's "gallonage- yet give it away to any builder of affordable 40B housing.  They are ruining this town by pushing this housing and putting great stress on our resources all in the name of "affordable housing". In years to come they will see - they will see the carnage. Growth Mangagement is a joke.  It controls market rate housing. Yet they say build build build and give gallonage AND more gallonage and yes more-  to all the 40B that wants it. Something is awry. This is not Planning. This is Reckless. We will pay the consequences. The people of Provincetown. IT IS HYPOCORISY AT ITS FINEST."

An elitist, whiny, and totally self-absorbed response like you is PSYCOPATHY at its best.  Check yourself into a mental hospital and stop boring the people who wipe your a.. and serve your dinner.

10:03 am edt 

Re: What About a Conversation With Us

 

"instead of e-mailing, writing, telephoning staff. that is not what the essence of a democracy--if you believe in it--is about. It's all of us with all of you. However, it seems that town officials have a rather distorted sense of a democracy."

It appears that your definition of democracy means that all the people should be involved in all things all the time.  No reason to have a charter or constitution.  Simply devise a system to have every person in the country vote on every issue every time.   Cool.

9:51 am edt 

Re: Vincent Breglia and Gordon Siegel - BOS Candidates

 

Even the local fish wrapper is against these two crazies....LETTERS TO THE EDITOR To the editor:
Caution against candidates

Last summer I had the pleasure of living and working in Provincetown, my favorite place in the entire country. The majority of my time was amazing and magical. However, it was not without a difficult challenge  a challenge that might adversely affect the future governance of Provincetown and the upcoming election for the two open selectman seats.

The house that my partner and I rented for our stay was near a home owned by [selectman candidates] Vincent Breglia and Gordon Siegel. Throughout the summer they displayed erratic, verbally abusive behavior and strange claims of trespassing when we would legally park on the street in front of their house. Even stranger, they claimed to have captured this trespassing on video, which they were never able to produce. They had two altercations with our landlord regarding parking. They also had one with my partner and a friend.

Unfortunately, these parking spaces were vital, as our yard did not have offstreet parking  a challenge in season, even under normal circumstances. These altercations with Breglia and Siegel are logged as police reports at the Provincetown Police Station and are available to the public.

The most important complaint we logged generated a temporary harassment prevention order against Breglia and Siegel from the court in Orleans. It occurred when I had my first and only conversation with the neighbors, lasting approximately three minutes. It ended when Vincent Breglia threatened to kill me. In that moment, I understood the level of his violent instability and immediately called the police. The police report on this altercation [police file reference no. 15-411-OF, Sept. 3, 2015] describes Breglias untruthful claims to the responding officer, Kevan Spoor, and confirms my version as being the reality of what transpired that day.

I do not offer this information lightly. I do so with a realistic concern regarding possible retaliation from these two men. Despite this, it is my profound belief that Provincetown cannot afford to have selectmen as unstable as Vincent Breglia and Gordon Siegel and I will do all that I can to ensure our beloved Ptown is not made vulnerable with this election.

Joseph Adams Palm Springs, Calif.

[Editors note: Provincetown police confirmed that a 10-day harassment prevention order, petitioned by Joseph Adams and George Shinko, was issued against Vincent Breglia on Sept. 3, 2015

9:46 am edt 

Re: Dog Dump at Town Hall?

 

If true, hard to believe a staff person allowed to have their dog in the office and the dog is going #2 on the carpet is ok.  The smell must get pretty bad.

9:04 am edt 

Re: Growth Management

Dr. Andrews mentioned the growth bylaw works in one of the posts. It doesn't. It strangles growth. It's nothing more than a limiter for new homes and businesses while allowing the "growth" and gallonage in the sewer system to be consumed by a "fix it" approach to something the town ignored years ago, affordable housing. Now, the affordable housing grabs up all the "gallonage" and new development doesn't happen. It doesn't work. New construction is popping up all over town under the guise of affordable housing, abusing the system.
9:01 am edt 

Wednesday, April 13, 2016

An Observation

 

The Squealing Pig was CLOSED and Blackfish was OPEN!

11:36 pm edt 

What About a Conversation With Us

 

instead of e-mailing, writing, telephoning staff. that is not what the essence of a democracy--if you believe in it--is about. It's all of us with all of you. However, it seems that town officials have a rather distorted sense of a democracy.

11:35 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Library

 

"The library is pretty, it should be for 12 million bucks. We had a library, it needed to be refreshed. Now we have things in the old library that could easily be somewhere else in town. The library was a colossal waste of taxpayer money just to house a stupid ass boat."

Can you believe how many wonderful things in the world would not exist if this attitude prevailed?  No Notra Dame.  No lincoln memorial.  No Westminster>  No Boston state House.  All about $$$ not the human need for inspiration or admiration.  Is the proper term, "philistine"?

11:33 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Library

 

I remember town conversations in the 90s concerning what to do with the then Provincetown Museum, now our great library.

One proposal was to create a Whaler's Wharf situation, with rented spaces for shops and studios, owned by a private developer. Another was to create market rate condos. Many townspeople, some recognized, others no longer residents, had a hand in preserving and creating the library, keeping it in the hands of community and for public use. It is certainly one of the crown jewels of Provincetown, and I'm proud to have been part of preserving this fine building for present and future generations. 

Can the current town leaders come up with a reasonable use for the Community Center?

5:57 pm edt 

Yingling Donegan Richter- Affordable Housing- 40B Flawed

Plain and simple. These guys  want more and more of this type of housing that looks like hell (and they condemn and denounce every market rate condo developer) and are the "safe keepers" of this town's "gallonage- yet give it away to any builder of affordable 40B housing.  They are ruining this town by pushing this housing and putting great stress on our resources all in the name of "affordable housing". In years to come they will see - they will see the carnage. Growth Mangagement is a joke.  It controls market rate housing. Yet they say build build build and give gallonage AND more gallonage and yes more-  to all the 40B that wants it. Something is awry. This is not Planning. This is Reckless. We will pay the consequences. The people of Provincetown. IT IS HYPOCORISY AT ITS FINEST.
3:40 pm edt 

Posted in the Provincetown Beacon

 

"Still, not a single person has answered the question - WTF has Donegan done to deserve another term. Apart from 'constituent services' at the Big Shank, that is." 

Madam Defarge

1:41 pm edt 

Tom Donegan: Hopeless & Useless


How many more days before we can get rid of him??

 

1:21 pm edt 

Re: Cheap Labor Issue

 

"Silly, it has nothing to do with cheap labor and everything to do with how much someone wants to work. We hear that restaurants "can't make it" during the winter. I guess the pop-up of Blackfish proved that theory wrong (they did very well)."

They have not shared their financials with me so I really don't know how well they did.  I have no idea and, I don't think, do you.  But the bottom line is that a single instance does not make the argument valid.  If you showed me that 6 or more places that usually close stayed open and made money then I would believe you.  

1:14 pm edt 

Provincetown Library

 

The library is pretty, it should be for 12 million bucks. We had a library, it needed to be refreshed. Now we have things in the old library that could easily be somewhere else in town. The library was a colossal waste of taxpayer money just to house a stupid ass boat.

1:13 pm edt 

Illegal Workers

One restaurant isn't rehiring its help this year if they aren't legal in every way.

I know because I know a worker who left and I asked why--but of course is working someplace else in town.

On another note, regarding the affordable housing folks, even I have hired one person to do work for me.

And then found out later that he lived in affordable housing.

Thus the cash was never included in his income and he was able to keep his low income status.
1:11 pm edt 

A Matter of Meeting Payroll

 

DIDN'T MEET PAYROLL TWO WINTERS AGO

Two winters ago there were places open in the winter and they WERE NOT ABLE to meet their payroll. In the fall I went to the movies at Whaler's Wharf and got there early and so went for a walk.

The streets were deserted. I talked to a merchant having a cigarette outside his business and he said that some people told him that they are never coming here again in the fall because nothing is open.

The streets were dead-dead-dead.

What a laugh to think that if places were open that they would make enough money to pay staff as well as the utilities.

This is a summer resort and business owners should buy some apartments and rent them to their help. Some do that already.

1:09 pm edt 

Re: Cheap Labor Issue

 

"Service industry year rounders use to be able to make some quick cash before the season. Temporary  job downtown,  now business would rather stay closed until the cheap labor gets here."

It has everything to to with cheap labor and nothing to do with how much someone wants to work.

Check reality, one new pop up place is open and did well this is enough to disprove theories for you? Yes to the post about paying a decent wages to locals. The truth is business owners know they can house 12-15 students to a room, make the money in the summer and close up shop.

1:01 pm edt 

Re: Cheap Labor Issue

"Service industry year rounders use to be able to make some quick cash before the season. Temporary  job downtown,  now business would rather stay closed until the cheap labor gets here."

Silly, it has nothing to do with cheap labor and everything to do with how much someone wants to work. We hear that restaurants "can't make it" during the winter. I guess the pop-up of Blackfish proved that theory wrong (they did very well). There are several businesses open year-round, with reduced hours. Those businesses don't make a lot of money, but they pay the rent and people, even during Jan/Feb. The truth that dare not speak its name here, is that these people are closed because they want to be and CAN be...taking their earnings to Florida or an island somewhere. Don't believe all the bull they put out there. Even in the winter, most retail stores can be open, and since there are almost no restaurants open in Truro or Wellfleet, more could be open in town. The "we work hard during the season" and "we can't make money" rings hollow when others are proving them wrong.
9:33 am edt 

Re: Growth Management

 

Growth Management Bylaw maybe it's time to revise it.
Thank you for that Mr. Groll but I knew what the gist of the law was and what it is meant to accomplish but I believe it's hypocritical. If one builds low income or affordable units because that's what the town officials want you get extra gallonage and move to the head of the list if not you are told no. If it's truly about limiting growth and preserving our resources I wouldn't think this would be the case, simply put gallon usage is gallon usage. Especially if let's say for example a person wants to put a little  two bedroom house with his own septic on his property because that's all his small family requires to live in our town, when he applies for the permits he is told he can't, "why" because of our Growth management bylaw. So what does this man do he decides to take his family and build in Wellfleet or somewhere else how does that help our community?  His next door neighbor wants to put a much bigger structure that includes affordable rentals let's say to house seaso!
nal workers and is hooked to the sewer, even though this second person will obviously be utilizing more gallonage and be more of a drain to our natural resources he gets preferential treatment. That's the point I was trying to make, so it's not just tying to preserve a resource it's in a certain sense having control over what one builds on their own property and certainly this does not help build and preserve our community it's doing the exact opposite of what I thought we were trying to accomplish. Just my take on things being a direct descendent of  Provincetown and for that matter Truro's founding fathers. By the way I totally agree with you about preserving our community and controlling growth if I had it my way there wouldn't be a condo in this town it would look like it did when I was a kid living down my dads and grandfathers campground "Coastal Acres" when the school was full of kids and there was a lot more woods to play in and explore.

8:52 am edt 

Tuesday, April 12, 2016

Re: Provincetown Library
 
Provincetown has the most interest, beautiful, and now well run Library I have ever lived. In an age where libraries and books seem to be losing appeal, a Library like ours welcomes a wide range of "customers". If you have never sat up on the third floor, reading or doing research or just relaxing, there is no better view in this town. Do it during a winter storm, even more beauty. This Library of ours is a GEM, and I thank the staff and board of trustees for maintaining it all.
11:15 pm edt 

Re: Dog Dump at Town Hall?

 

Well, Given that the Dog's Owner Has been Dumping on many of Us

Not a surprise that her dog is now dumping at town hall. He is not small. He is a big dog and she is insensitive to others.

Nothing smells right, does it?

 

 

10:53 pm edt 

Re: What a Concept

 

"It will only get worse as time goes by if the business owners don't buy some apartments to house the students."

Imagine if business owners paid a living wage to the locals who already have housing. What a concept. 

10:48 pm edt 

Selectman Wanna be Town Manager Failure


So the Chair of the Selectmen wanted to be a Town Manager and botched the selection so he could run the Town. He tried to force a 1.75 million dollar deal on the townfolk because he didnt know what to do with the VFW.

His failure and ineptness at the job led to another backroom deal which gave away our Community Center to said developer. That plan failed too. Noticing a pattern here? How is this different from Sharon Lynn again? They claimed they cant figure out what to do with the VFW or the Community Center. Well move over boys and let the town do whats best.

Thank god we eventually got a TM who now knows where his alliances should be- not with the ego driven chair and his posse but with the people of Provincetown. 3 years have gone by with a lot of talk but no real action on housing...Donegan must go so we can get something done!

10:47 pm edt 

Re: Be Advised


What rock did you crawl out of?

When the library house housed at Freeman, it was cramped, crowded, inefficent, and did not house the Rose Dorthea. Now it is a regular stop for visitors to enjoy: culture, views, a rest room stop. Please. What are you thinking? A library is a place for the community to come together. When was the last time you were in the library? I'm guessing you need to read a little bit more.
10:41 pm edt 

Cheap Labor Issue

 

Service industry year rounders use to be able to make some quick cash before the season. Temporary  job downtown,  now business would rather stay closed until the cheap labor gets here.

6:19 pm edt 

Re: Community Center Proposal
 
Maybe the Problem with the Staff Working on the community Center Proposal

is that staff has not asked the voters what they want, requested information and perspectives from voters. Once again, it is STAFF going forward, and STAFF determining options, and STAFF deciding what direction to take.

this is not, no, not listening to what the voters said. they want in-put; they want to provide general ideas; they want a say in the process. Voters--residents--not STAFF.
6:18 pm edt 

Dog Dump at Town Hall?

 

Went to get a permit at town hall.  I asked the person what the smell was.  They leaned across the counter and whispered its either Lysol or dog poo.  The dog being allowed in the basement is now taking a dump in the offices.

6:15 pm edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager-Posted in Town Talk

 

A Town Meeting Follow-up 

"First, you advertise and request teams send in a letter that is one one or two pages outling the essential parts of their proposal, their team, experience, concept, funding, target market/operations, etc."

Teams? made up of business owners working under the guise of non-profits and community that will making a profit.

6:07 pm edt 

Hum-Hum-Hum maybe but...

I guess having ideas on how to propose proposing some different ideas for the use of the community Center could be seen as good but...could they have waited at least a week or two after our saying NO on Tuesday night. Having some time to re-analyze what went wrong is good. some time for reflection and analysis. but this is going forward without, it seems, much deep thought.
6:06 pm edt 

Be Advised

In the past a strong movement to buy the Chysler building by the town for a heritage museum passed thru town meeting.  Promises were made that the building would be self sufficant. Yeah right. It became a outlet for artists to show and sell their paintings. The town taxpayers funded this building over and over again. Leaking roof, other repairs and the list goes on and on. When the replica of the Rose Dorathia was built it became the anchor for the town to keep the building. Now we have a over sized expensive building for a library that only uses a small space.
   PLEASE lets not let this happen to the Community Center building. Yes people have ideas for the building  but we can not  increase taxes to pay for more town property upkeep.
4:23 pm edt 

Students Desperate For Housing

Students are in Europe waiting to find out if they have a visa and are desperate to find housing in Provincetown.

It will only get worse as time goes by if the business owners don't buy some apartments to house the students.
2:48 pm edt 

David Panagore - Town Manager-Posted in Town Talk
 
 
April 12 at 1:44pm
 
A Town Meeting Follow-up. I did not have the chance last night at the Board of Selectment meeting, but Board has asked me to make sure everyone knew what the action plan is for 46 Bradford Street. In executive session the Board asked Staff for a commendation on its re-use/re-development. First, I want to mention that my office has been approached by at least three if not five individuals with good ideas, as well as the ability to fund and excute that idea. So the discusson at Town Meeting has generated interest in the property for a variety of uses, and that is the the good. Seeing this interest and looking back at the last two RFP's , I recommended to the Board a change of process. We can do better and we can do it in a way that brings out the best in each proposal.

So rather than a single due date for proposals in response to an RFP containing pages and pages of necessary but truthfully bureacratic langauge, there is a different way of going about a transparant, supportive and clear public selection process. Its a two step process tha I generally outlned and was directed by the board to come back in thirty days a detailed plan and approach for their review, but in broad outline it might works as folows:

First, you advertise and request teams send in a letter that is one one or two pages outling the essential parts of their proposal, their team, experience, concept, funding, target market/operations, etc. Nornally along with a letter is a cashier's check, "earnest money" as its often called, accompanies this submission in a reasonable amount as way of proving the serious of the proposal and indicative in its own way of the capacity of the team to follow through. With a clear set of criteria, ie. information the letter needs to touch on, the teams are "pre-qualified" and then each get sent the RFP, which I hope we can strip down to a more user friendly form, ie. so you don't need a master's degree in governent proposal writing to respond. Staff then works with and responds to questions from each team so that when they do finally submit their proposal it is just about as solid as can be. We still need to look at and determein what the best the selection committee aprpaoch would be, a very critical piece, etc, one thing looks clear community benefit is a key criteria.

In posting this, I do invite comment, and persepctive ,but I ask that before anyone races to any conclusions, neagtive or positive, that you at least give staff the opportunity to pull together the details. We will back before the Board of Selectmen in about a month with more details.

(I will have something on the VFW later, I have to get to a meeting )
2:29 pm edt 

Re: Facebook Community Space

 

No rental or job offerings on the fb community space page but the same artists can list their works for sale every day. How stupid is that?

2:18 pm edt 

Three Easy Condo Conversion Steps

YOU, Dear Property owner do nothing but pick up the phone.

1. Call Coastal engineering to come and survey your         
    property and measure the rooms.

2. You contact a lawyer, give her the plans and the lawyer
   does the paper work and files it for you.

That is it. And, if you want to change the condo back to a multi family, the lawyer writes,"This property has reverted back to a multi-family home.

You do nothing. Suddenly, your property is protected from being banned from any future condo conversion.

Nothing changes, you have the same tenants, the same rent--the name is different--that is all.

You now own condos instead of apartments.

Any property owner who doesn't do this now after KNOWING that the selectmen want to put a strangle-hold on what you can do with your property is being foolish.

Do it now and protect your heirs.

Do it now so down the road you can sell one and still live in Provincetown with a nest egg.

Do it now before the next town meeting next Spring--if you know what is good for you.
1:08 pm edt 

From Wayne Martin

 

To the Chair of FinCom Mr. Hatch, all Ptown selectmen and the TM.
I'm glad to provide some comic relief for people I enjoy making people laugh. As far as me not knowing what I'm taking about goes, I never professed to know everything about how this town functions thats why I ask questions. I asked 6 different people the same question about gallonage and got six different answers. Still I have not got a clear reasonable answer to the question, how could our town officials offer Savko gallonage reserved for a particular situation or purpose for something "a project" that couldn't be further from its original intention without having broken a town bylaw governing it. At the very least there should have been public discussion on the matter followed by if necessary a vote whether we the people thought it worthy enough to make an exception. Instead we get executive sessions and double talk, that was all I was getting too for the simple minded cowards that don't put their name to their posts and couldn't read between the lines.

12:30 pm edt 

From: Cheryl Andrews

 

Just a note. Some of these posts have my name, but are not from me. that's a little misleading yes?

Further, I am not aware of any dirty secrets. Not sure who posted that comment. but...

Some projects  have been exempted from Growth Management because they were deemed a Public Use. The entire Seashore Point project is an example.

If folks have questions about Growth Management or Sewer Use, please ask them. It can get confusing. But that doesn't make it dirty or a secret.


Thanks
And now , I  will sign my name.

Cheryl Andrews

12:28 pm edt 

Re: Cheryl Andrews - Posted in Provincetown Beacon

But the dirty secret that will answer Waynes question is in regard to affordable housing. Units deemed affordable don't fall under the growth bylaws because we want to promote those units and therefore gallonage is not an issue.
12:03 am edt 

Monday, April 11, 2016

Re: Wayne Martin's Question

"So can someone please be kind enough to explain to me just what exactly what does GALLONAGE refer to,..."

ONLY in Provincetown can someone post to all blogs and Facebook pages constantly about a subject and then admit, in public, that they have no idea what they're even talking about. LOL Keep it up Wayne! I think you should go back to Truro because THAT place is REALLY boring and you have a chance of shaking people up. Here the only thing you do is make people laugh.
8:27 pm edt 

Wayne Matin Via Provincetown Beacon

Well Dr. Andrews, Mr. Hatch  or any one else that cares to answer, seeing how it is my understanding the proposed CC 6 unit 17 bedroom plans did not include low income or affordable housing how was it that it was allocated double the gallon usage for that property and providing the approval of the other towns committees &  boards " which I'm sure was not going to be an issue considering the situation" was he going to be able to start construction right a way. It should've had  absolutely nothing to do with what MIGHT or MIGHT NOT some day with the voters approval have been built on the WF property or the VFW site if the swap was approved. Simply because there was no guarantee that anything would have been built "affordable housing" on either one or those sights in the foreseeable future. Well maybe besides if things went our town officials way a Militarized police fortress. Can anybody reasonably articulate an honest non BS answer to that taking in to consideration that the !
BS detector is on and functioning properly.
5:46 pm edt 

Cheryl Andrews - Posted in Provincetown Beacon
 
Wayne Martin's Question:
 
"So can someone please be kind enough to explain to me just what exactly what does GALLONAGE refer to,..." 
 
 
In Provincetown, if you apply for a permit that involves any kind of INCREASE in wastewater flow (for example bedrooms, restaurant seats, retail sq footage) you need to get in line for your permit, which is regulated by our GROWTH MANAGEMENT BYLAW. we use TItle V gallons/day as our measure of GROWTH in town, because ...it works. It is a local bylaw and has been on the books, since.....maybe about the mid 1990's. Different TYPES of permits, are dealt with in different categories, in the bylaw. It is a local bylaw, to manage...growth. It has nothing to due with the sewer. It has nothing to do with your septic system. It has to do with ....growth.
5:36 pm edt 

Wayne Martin Posted in Provincetown Beacon

 

So can someone please be kind enough to explain to me just what exactly does GALLONAGE refer to, in Mr. Savko's Winslow property seeing how I have left messages down the town hall and nobody has bothered to return my phone calls. Is it gallons of water consumed a day or gallons being put into the septic system? or both? and if it is gallon consumption would drilling wells alleviate the problem seeing how he has his own septic?

5:32 pm edt 

Re: To: David Panagore - Town Manager

 

"Seems to Me that the town Manager should be objective in presenting articles

Because he needs to leave room open for voters's responses and not be up front advocating like a street barker for certain articles. He should be more neutral more objective, more lawyer-like!!"


The manager is the voice of the BOS no matter what you or others would like him to be.  That is his job.  That is spelled out in the charter.  There are plenty of other people to present whatever ideas and opinions that they have.  The BOS takes a position on articles.  He is just like an attorney representing a client.  He argues in favor of the client whether he feels the client is wrong or not.  That is how we run things.  Form your own opinions based on the information that you know from whatever source. To liken him to a street barker is to take issue with out charter and laws. How long do you think a manager would last if he/she did not support and advocate for the BOS positions?  He can try to influence the BOS in their deliberations but once they take a position he is the employee who is their mouthpiece. 

5:26 pm edt 

Re: To: David Panagore - Town Manager

Seems to Me that the town Manager should be objective in presenting articles

Because he needs to leave room open for voters's responses and not be up front advocating like a street barker for certain articles. He should be more neutral more objective, more lawyer-like!!

That he didn't vote is not the key. It is how he presented himself and how he loudly and so forcefully advocated for certain BOS driven articles. I was bothered by his behavior.
3:20 pm edt 

Smiles

 

Looking forward to the budding of the leaves and flowers- hopefully we are through with the winter doldrums and onto higher spirits! Walked my pouch this morning and got a few hellos and smiles- amazing what a smile does for the heart.Pass them along.They do wonders.

2:08 pm edt 

Neighborhood Association Question

 

Is there a neighborhood association for the area abutting the VFW and Winslow Farms area?

2:06 pm edt 

Re: To: David Panagore - Town Manager

 

"What is more amazing is that you are ignorant of the Town Manager's own words :"

What I posted is factually correct.  The manager can remain "neutral" if he chooses and can define it anyway he wants.  But t is still not written anywhere that he MUST be neutral. Advocating for a position is not being neutral even though a vote is not registered.  He is being a little disingenuous when he says that he must be neutral.  He must do what his boss says and that is to advocate for the BOS policy position.  He can do as the BOS wishes in arguing a point of view and still manage the policy as dictated by town meeting and legally binding on the board. 

11:41 am edt 

Killing the Messenger

 

Provincetown citizens need to straighten up their house. A new Town Moderator would be a good start--and elect new people to replace BOS members you aren't happy with. Every person needs to vote and not just complain. The Town Manager's job is to implement decisions made by the BOS--Panagore works for them--DUH. He is just the messenger.

11:39 am edt 

Evaluating Town Meeting Presentations and Public Responses

 

"David Panagore Was Definite that town Personnel's Job Performance would Include
Seems to make sense. However, Panagore would have to give many town employees an F for performance and for the defeat of many articles on town floor. He would have to give his town planner an F for Winslow Farms, Condo conversion and the Inclusionary by-law--all which McPherson helped write and all which she heralded and championed."

Regarding Article 27. Zoning Bylaw Amendment - Article 2 Section 2440. If you recall, Dr. Rick Murray, former Zoning Board member, corrected the Town Planner's interpretation of the need to amend the existing Bylaw.

Dr. Murray  correctly argued that the existing law was more than adequate to achieve the desired goal, without amendment.

And  as for the Chair of Planning, "Call the Question", he was totally  incapable of answering the question as to the benefits of Article 29. Zoning Bylaw Amendment - Article 2 Section 2440, necessitating two other people to provide responses.

Way to go team! 

 

11:01 am edt 

About MYPACC

 

No wonder some don't Like Mypacc
It's one of the few places where people post how they feel and often how they think about town management and personnel. They give their opinions and mypacc is not beholden to any selectman nor any town power base. They can't buy its silence. It's what both the BOS and town management cannot control. It must drive them crazy! but then again...
So, thanks.

10:58 am edt 

Evaluating Town Meeting Presentations and Public Responses

 

David Panagore Was Definite that town Personnel's Job Performance would Include
Seems to make sense. However, Panagore would have to give many town employees an F for performance and for the defeat of many articles on town floor. He would have to give his town planner an F for Winslow Farms, Condo conversion and the Inclusionary by-law--all which McPherson helped write and all which she heralded and championed.

And by the way, if David Panagore gave the same standard for his own job performance, sorry to say, he too would get a big F for the Winslow farms Swap deal that he emotionally presented and was the biggest cheerleader for. Similar for the noise by-law that he, being a lawyer himself, wrote  and that legally contradicted the town's own noise by-law.

Not a good three nights for town employees' performance ratings!

10:57 am edt 

Re: To: David Panagore - Town Manager

 

"Amazing how you can appear to be so involved with town matters yet be so ignorant of the facts of government. The Manager works for the BOS.  No where is it written that the manager should be neutral." 

What is more amazing is that you are ignorant of the Town Manager's own words :

"Good morning. Here are the results from Town Meeting. One personal note, people may (or may not as more likely) have noticed I did not vote on any items. I thought a lot about it and asked advice from colleagues and decided to follow I should not, that to vote places me either on one side or the other of an issue, when in the end result, I need to properly manage whatever the result."

I think that defines neutrality. 

10:35 am edt 

Re: Appreciating my job


"I can read the Sunday paper and check e-mails and face book and have lunch and relax as well--all ok here, but there is still that one boring task and I'm feeling disgruntled."


Imagine, those fools hired a completely unprofessional TOOL who thinks it's okay to read the Sunday paper, read personal emails and play on Facebook on COMPANY TIME, while hard-working people like that woman (and me) can pound the pavement all day, day after day, trying to find a job with your paycheck.  Wastes of space like you make me puke.  If I was your boss, I'd fire your ass in a heartbeat.

10:27 am edt 

Re: To: David Panagore - Town Manager

 

"This community has a long memory. We already have registered your performance in the presentation of all of the failed articles. You were not neutral. You  were a proponent..."

Amazing how you can appear to be so involved with town matters yet be so ignorant of the facts of government. The Manager works for the BOS.  No where is it written that the manager should be neutral.  The BOS has a position and that position is argued by the manager.  Sorry to confuse your biases with facts.

9:56 am edt 

Respecting the Will of the People

 

It seems we all get pulled into the "mud throwing" every now and then. What I have to remind myself is to be thankful for what I have.  All the politics with the differing and conflicting viewpoints ended up at Town Meeting Vote.  The people spoke. The articles were voted on and final decisions and outcomes prevailed.

I for one am very happy with those outcomes . I just wish those in the governing body could accept them. That is the part I do not understand. A few selectmen have made derogatory comments as well as one or two on fincom.

The Winslow Farm/Community Center swap was a contentious article.I believe the members of both Fincom and the BOS should accept the outcome graciously.The same goes for the voting down of the Condo Conversion bylaw.

The people have spoke.Your articles did not pass because they were flawed.  Do what you were elected and or appointed to do.Be thankful and move on .

9:53 am edt 

Re: Appreciating My Job

 

"Two people in one room briefly but what a difference in our circumstances. What a wake up call to make me appreciate all that I have."

Here again, we have a fine example of a smug and petty post "I've got mine and soooooo grateful that I'm a good planner", who rambles on goes on about his comforts, blah blah, blah. And how many feet away from tragedy are you, really?

I'm reminded of the shoe manufacturer in New Hampshire, circa 1920, who build the castle in the clouds, owned 500 acres and then build a house for the poor. It ended up being his home the final years of his life when he lost his vast fortune.

So snuggle in, eat snacks, be smug, think you've mastered a corner of the planet. But, you never know. I wish I knew what business you 'own'. I'd never walk in there again.

12:34 am edt 

Re: Appreciating My Job

A post full of presumptions and other oddities...
12:32 am edt 

Sunday, April 10, 2016

To: BOS, TM...... Hello! Anybody Out There?

Where is the report on the outcome of the Special Town Meeting? The silence is deafening.
10:54 pm edt 

Re: Response to Mark Hatch's Provincetown Beacon Post

"...should exemplify the utmost of professionalism.  Unfortunately, there is a difference between one who possesses intellligence , class and professionalism  and one who possessses "a bit of intelligence and little class and a total lack of professionalism."


There is also a difference between someone who can spell (not even close in that quote) and someone who can't. Who's really the idiot now? lol You people who post here are very very funny! Maybe your first step to not being an idiot is to learn how to turn on the spell check on whatever device you are using so you don't look as stupid as you do.
10:50 pm edt 

Wayne Martin - Posted in Provincetown Beacon
 

 

April 10 at 9:20pm

 
It's like the one on Winslow Farms I was at today, I talked to the nice man and his wife that are living there with their cute little poodle. He has been working for JIm Savko for the last 15 years. A million dollars house huh!!! I could have that little house done from start to finish in three months and it wouldn't cost $350,000.00 fully furnished, shit a quarter of the structure is a little garage. It does however have a basement apartment in it, which is strange for a single family dwelling.🤔 Also that development does have its own septic so why again wasn't he allowed to finish his project it's got nothing to do with gallonage!!! I know a lot more now than I did when I woke up this morning about our town leaders BS swap.
10:10 pm edt 

Re: Recall of Erik Yingling

 

"The HUGE difference between talking "recall" for Erik Yingling is Vince Currier and Barbara Rushmore will NOT do the recall!"


BARBARA LOVES HIM BECAUSE HE IS HER GRANDSON. VINCE LOVES HIM BECAUSE HE AND YOU KNOW WHO GOT HIM INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.  COME- ON. WE ALL KNOW THE DEAL. ITS ALL I WIPE YOURS YOU WIPE MINE. DONEGAN-  YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED -USING YINGLING AS YOUR PUPPET.

8:06 pm edt 

Re: Response to Mark Hatch's Provincetown Beacon Post

 

" One of those Idiots on MyPacc"

"I think the chair of the finance committee should temper his political views. I read many postings from voters on mypacc and they are not idiots. "Idiots"? How disrespectful. How offensive!"


Totally Agree-He -Mark Hatch ( why does he remind of of the "JOKER" from Batman?) should exemplify the utmost of professionalism.  Unfortunately, there is a difference between one who possesses intellligence , class and professionalism  and one who possessses "a bit of intelligence and little class and a total lack of professionalism.

7:53 pm edt 

To: David Panagore - Town Manager

I am still waiting for an explanation from the Town Manager as to why there is no report on the Special Town Meeting. Is it because you do not want to draw attention to  the defeat of article 7, which you will be discussing tomorrow at the BOS meeting?
 
Remember, it is you that chose to  publish only half the Town Meeting...Why? 
 
Every instance you inject yourself  into the issues of town governance, wholly on behalf of the BOS Chair and Vice Chair, you take ownership of the results of their acts and will be judged accordingly.
 
This community has a long memory. We already have registered your performance in the presentation of all of the failed articles. You were not neutral. You  were a proponent... the Texaco Salesman...... so be it.  
7:51 pm edt 

Re: Response to Mark Hatch's Provincetown Beacon Post

 

" One of those Idiots on MyPacc"

I think the chair of the finance committee should temper his political views. I read many postings from voters on mypacc and they are not idiots. "Idiots"? How disrespectful. How offensive!

7:32 pm edt 

Re: Tom Donegan - BOS Candidate

Where do I go to find out the rules on the placement of Candidate Placards. No way do I want his placard on my condo property. Thank you!
7:31 pm edt 

Re: Recall of Erik Yingling

 

"He actually cares about the town and his community and has a lot of friends and supporters.
We all know recalls are not easy to accomplish, especially in a small town."



If he really cared about the town he would resign and apologize for not seeing his ineptitude sooner. How many signatures are needed for a recall?   Maybe we just need to find those who voted for blank last time.

7:29 pm edt 

Appreciating My Job

I have this one boring task to do at work today. I sit facing a bank of windows looking out at a landscape of trees in one direction and a garden area in another. One Task left, but a boring one-transcribing numbers.

I'm virtually alone today; I can read the Sunday paper and check e-mails and face book and have lunch and relax as well--all ok here, but there is still that one boring task and I'm feeling disgruntled.

Then the door opens and a middle aged woman comes in who has obviously been walking all through town and I ask if I can help her and she replies, "are you hiring".

I tell her I'm sorry, but no. I sit back in my comfy chair with my snacks and my computer and boy, do I appreciate working here all over again.

I'm off early today, so I can get into my smooth driving car and drive to Beech forest to see if there are any foxes or turkeys there, then to Herring cove, and then back to the house that I own and snuggle in and know that after dinner I can watch the midwife and Mr. Selfridge on Channel 2 PBS.

I hope that that lady has someplace cozy to go to and that she does find a job.

Two people in one room briefly but what a difference in our circumstances. What a wake up call to make me appreciate all that I have.

How foolish to give even one negative thought to this work that needs to be done without any pressure to get it done now. Live and learn, live and learn.
7:27 pm edt 

Re: Recall of Erik Yingling

 

The HUGE difference between talking "recall" for Erik Yingling is Vince Currier and Barbara Rushmore will NOT do the recall! They both love Erik Yingling and are proud of the work he does. Ask them! Erik Yingling works hard for his hometown, and this small group of detractors will not take him off his goals. He actually cares about the town and his community and has a lot of friends and supporters. He has served a full term and has been re-elected to serve another. And the same people who put him into office will keep him in office until HE decides he has burned out....not one election before!
As another poster has said, enough is enough. Either vote for Erik or not, but whoever is spending all that time writing garbage is wasting all of our time! We all know recalls are not easy to accomplish, especially in a small town.

11:55 am edt 

Re: It Aint Over Until It's Over

 

Having a Post-analysis of Town Meeting by the BOS Would Make Sense

Out in the open and they're ability to analysis their huge failure! but that is not what is happening. Post-analysis is not done--not done--in executive session. We are back to square one.

they don't believe they failed. they lost big time, boys and girls, and they will fail again if they refuse to take the wax out of their ears and listen to the voters.

Maybe they only listen to themselves. there is a big-time problem with this threesome and their cheerleader Panagore.

11:52 am edt 

I Will Not Vote For Winslow Donegan

It was his idea, as well as Yingling's and it was a terrible decision. he, Winslow Donegan, wrote the article for special town meeting and it failed--royally. The town said no. Now let's say no to the proponent.
11:50 am edt 

Re: Vote for Vincent and Gordon

Never.  All those two have contributed is a new and more pernicious level of poison and boorishness to an environment which is already toxic enough.


Oust the establishment.  Time for some fresh thinkers.
11:47 am edt 

Re: Richter is Not Yingling

"Although related, Mr Richter is the one with a measurable I Q."

Double digits compared to single digits is nothing to brag about.
9:08 am edt 

Donegan -Andrews "No"& Executive Session - "Yes"

 

I will not be voting for Donegan or Andrews, I don't see anything they have done to move the town forward in a positive manner.

However, I do have to say the executive session to discuss the VFW and Community Center properties is the correct thing to do.  Town meeting authorized the sale of the Community Center some years ago, they have to figure out what to do with it.  We bought the VFW property a few years ago, it just sits there, what are we going to do with it?

Real estate strategies should be done in executive session.

9:06 am edt 

Voluntarism

 

Who the hell would want to volunteer for the BOS. No matter what you do, you suck. I don't agree with everyone on everything but really people just frigging vote next month and stop with the character assassination of Tom Donegan.

8:39 am edt 

Selling Property

We have let our tenants continue to live in our condos as we try to sell them. However, buyers have not bought them because they said that they did not want to displace people.

Unfortunately, we are going to have to do this now. Who is happy about this situation? NO ONE.

Do you think that the realtors are happy when they have friends who rent? So many people know each other in this town so there isn't a bad guy in this situation-it is how business works when selling property.

Why can't someone look at the situation and say that they had 20 or 30 years of living in Provincetown in a lovely apartment and that now it is time to go?

This is the fate of anyone who rents. It has happened to me three times too. I have been on both sides now. I've always accepted and realized the situation.

When my landlord fretted over me having to leave I said that I was thankful for the years that I had there and will never forget them. And I've stayed close friends to this day even though I had to move!

Now that I'm selling, I can't keep the places occupied because buyers don't want year round tenants living in them whom they have to evict.

Thus I've told them that the leases will not be renewed and they have been given six months notice and we will help them with first and last rent for their new rental.
8:36 am edt 

Re: April 11th BOS Meeting to Discuss Winslow Street Transaction

 

"It is impossible to believe that after the rancor of last Tuesday's meeting this could happen!
 
Hopefully, this is the wrong interpretation and either the BOS or Town Manager can provide a satisfactory explanation prior to the April 11th meeting."                                         

My take on the BOS posting in the newspaper to meet April 11 in executive session is they advertised it in advance of knowing the outcome of the TM vote.  Now that it has been voted down there will no need for the executive session.  But who knows? Perhaps they have to meet in executive session to legally back themselves out of the deal they made with the developer.

8:27 am edt 

Vote for Vincent and Gordon

Oust the establishment.  Time for some fresh thinkers.
8:25 am edt 

Saturday, April 9, 2016

Re: Response to Mark Hatch's Provincetown Beacon Post

 

Mark Hatch Posted on the Provincetown Beacon                                        

"Re: It Aint Over Until It's Over"

"April 11th BOS Meeting to Discuss Winslow Street Transaction"  

 "It's an executive discussion and it could mean anything. That's just one of the idiots on MYPACC trying to speculate about something. Frankly, no one knows...that's why it's an executive session. Winslow is dead. Time for people to move on."

The operative word is "could mean anything". It could mean that they are again opening up a dialog for the purchase of properties rejected by the voters at Town Annual Meeting.

It is surprising to find the Chair of FinCom taking such a sanguine position.

What does he know that we dont? 

11:53 pm edt 

Re: It Aint Over Until It's Over
                                         

"April 11th BOS Meeting to Discuss Winslow Street Transaction" 

 
We eliminate the problem when we get rid of Donegan. He and Yingling are behind this travesty.
They refuse to accept the will of the people.
 
Additionally, we should consider a recall of Erik Yingling. It worked for Austin Knight, thats why he retired.
Send these two clowns packing. 
11:37 pm edt 

Mark Hatch Posted on the Provincetown Beacon

 

"Re: It Aint Over Until It's Over"

"April 11th BOS Meeting to Discuss Winslow Street Transaction"  

 

It's an executive discussion and it could mean anything. That's just one of the idiots on MYPACC trying to speculate about something. Frankly, no one knows...that's why it's an executive session. Winslow is dead. Time for people to move on.

11:29 pm edt 

Re: It Aint Over Until It's Over

 

 "April 11th BOS Meeting to Discuss Winslow Street Transaction" 

Why are the selectmen working for developers instead of the people who live in town? The BOS seems obsessed with Winslow Farms and making sure Mr Savko get some goodies from town. it isnt hard to see how towns people smell a rat in this (once again) backrroms deal. Last year the lady who is a co-owner of Winslow said she had a buyer for the house that would close the next day if she wanted - what happened to that? Again the Selectmen working for everyone but the people of town. Raises and health insurance! boy they love to tell us what to do and spend our money. Dunnegan is a poison to this town. He needs to get a big moving truck to move him and his enormous ego out of town!!

11:18 pm edt 

Re: It Aint Over Until It's Over

 

"April 11th BOS Meeting to Discuss Winslow Street Transaction" 

You've got to be kidding me it's time to run them all out of town on a rail, Am I reading My PACC correctly their going to keep trying and bargaining for the swap. Why would they even meet on this? How are [they] going to present it next time? What are they going to do, change the figures around now and pretend then didn't just commit fraud with their BS appraisals!!! They got caught going against the rules and giving Gallonage where it was not supposed be given without having low income or affordable housing. You saw what I saw when asked about the gallonage give to Savko David Gardner stumbled and bumbled over his words. What underhanded garbage are they trying to pull now!!!


Say it with me now selectmen transparency!!!! This is our town not your playground we are the rulers you are the servants!!! If you don't like it resigned!!! Stop going against the will of the people!!!

11:14 pm edt 

Richter is Not Yingling

 

Grouping Mr Richter with Mr Yingling is quite unfair. They disagree as do most reasonable people with Mr Yingling's white whale obsessions. Mr Richter (and Dr Andrews) did indeed vote against the condo conversion nonsense which in Mr Richter's words "would punish many who did the right thing". Although related, Mr Richter is the one with a measurable I Q.

7:53 pm edt 

It Aint Over Until It's Over

 

Motion by the Board of Selectmen to vote to go into Executive Session pursuant to MGL c30A, Section 21 (a), Clause 6 for the purpose of:


Clause 6 - To consider the purchase of, exchange, lease or value of real estate, if the chair declares that an open meeting may have a detrimental effect on the negotiating position of the public body. VFW property (3 Jerome Smith Road). Votes may be taken.


Clause 6 - To consider the purchase of, exchange, lease or value of real estate, if the chair declares that an open meeting may have a detrimental effect on the negotiating position of the public body. Old Community Center (46 Bradford Street). Votes may be taken."


"PROVINCETOWN Banner April 5, 2016  The former community center didnt buy the farm at Town Meeting Tuesday night when voters, by a hand count of 168-110, nixed trading it for a three-quarter-acre property on Winslow  Street."

Session on the 11th RE: Winslow Farms? Am I understanding this correctly? IF they do- they will face one FED UP TOWN> STILL WAITING ON THE EXECUTIVE MINUTES DONEGAN AND YINGLING REFUSE TO GIVE UP REGARDING THEIR BOTCHED HANDLING OF JARAN THAT COST US 2 X AS MUCH AS JARAN WAS WILLING TO ACCEPT.

Lets hope this is an error on the exectutive session on April 11th.

7:07 pm edt 

Here They Go Again!

 

Why Executive Session concerning VFW and the community Center

We just had town meeting. We just NO to the Winslow Farm/community Center Swap. We want a plan, not just sell this, then sell that.

What is happening? why, why, why executive session? they love secrecy and hidden deals don't they?

Here they go again!

7:04 pm edt 

Send Donegan Packing

Send Donegan packing. Let's expedite his leaving for New York.
 
He will distroy this town before he leaves if we let him.
 
 
 
6:16 pm edt 

Anyone, but Donegan!

I will vote for any two BOS candidates except Donegan. He is the problem.
The BOS dysfunction is his doing. No leadership, arrogance and lack of imagination or
intellect.
 
Anyone, but Donegan! 
6:13 pm edt 

Re: To Tom Donegan - You Must Go!

 

"I am getting tired of negative postings here - including some I have posted myself."


Weird statement. Negativity is subjective. Provincetown's government is full of people who think they understand what [it] is like to rent and live on the Outercape- year round.
In reality, these people have made the housing situation worse, particular by their blind refusal to deal with what is not working. They have repeatedly let their ignorance, (Elaine Anderson) and arrogance, (Tom Donegan and gang) blind them to realities. Any of the following can be applied to these post, negative, subjective,   don't have the facts,  don't care about the facts,  have the facts but choose to ignore the problems and chastise the messenger.

5:58 pm edt 

April 11th BOS Meeting to Discuss Winslow Street Transaction

We are very appreciative of the Town Manager printing the results of the Annual Town Meeting. Thank you.
 
However, there was also the Special Town Meeting, which included key articles having great import, yet there is no mention of the results of those votes. 
 
In particular, it is noted that Article 7 of the Special Town Meeting to acquire 48 Winslow Street was voted down 168-110 and yet in the published Revised April 11, 2016 Board of Selectmen Meeting agenda the Board of Selectmen are proceeding to consider the purchase, exchange, lease or value of the properties.
 
 Meeting Agenda- Revised 
"The Provincetown Board of Selectmen will hold a public meeting on Monday, April 11, 2016, at 5:00 p.m. in Judge Welsh Room, Town Hall, 260 Commercial Street,
Provincetown, MA 02657.

Motion by the Board of Selectmen to vote to go into Executive Session pursuant to MGL c30A, Section 21 (a), Clause 6 for the purpose of:

Clause 6 - To consider the purchase of, exchange, lease or value of real estate, if the chair declares that an open meeting may have a detrimental effect on the negotiating position of the public body. VFW property (3 Jerome Smith Road). Votes may be taken.

Clause 6 - To consider the purchase of, exchange, lease or value of real estate, if the chair declares that an open meeting may have a detrimental effect on the negotiating position of the public body. Old Community Center (46 Bradford Street). Votes may be taken."

"PROVINCETOWN Banner April 5, 2016 — The former community center didn’t buy the farm at Town Meeting Tuesday night when voters, by a hand count of 168-110, nixed trading it for a three-quarter-acre property on Winslow  Street."

 
Unless we are missing something, this Executive Session is in complete contravention to the vote taken at Special Town Meeting and has the apparence of utter contempt.
 
It is impossible to believe that after the rancor of last Tuesday's meeting this could happen!
 
Hopefully, this is the wrong interpretation and either the BOS or Town Manager can provide a satisfactory explanation prior to the April 11th meeting.
 

 

 
4:34 pm edt 

No to Donegan - Anyone But Donegan!

 

Yes, I was wrong in my Initial Assessment of Tom Donegan

Yes, I did vote for him and thought he would be good for this town. But, I was wrong. My judgment of Donegan was flawed. He is self-centered and haughty and is the worse selectmen that we have had serve this town in over twenty years. In truth, he is a disaster and puts the town at risk.

Tom Donegan should be defeated and I admit to a wrong vote. Wrong assessment. Wrong judgment. Wrong vote.

He must be removed from office and this time, no to Donegan; no to undermining our assests; no to arrogance.

2:15 pm edt 

To Tom Donegan - You Must Go!

 

I am getting tired of negative postings here - including some I have posted myself. However, I have to add another. My conscience would not allow me to do otherwise. Tom Donegan must go. He is so out of touch with the business , ecomomic and fiscal aspects of this town. He also has proven to be extremely belligerent and explosive in the face of differing opinions. He has become a "bully" along with his side kick Erik. They make little sense and I for one am embarrassed to even call them our Selectmen.  Tom Donegan- you lost you way. Ego got in your way.

12:31 pm edt 

Affordable Housing Fund

Thankfully the voters had the sense to vote down the recent 3% tax that would get deposited into the Affordable Housing Fund.    The BOS lacks the leadership to develop a strategic plan to create more affordable housing, but instead develop stupid meaningless symbolic gestures to give the appearance that they're doing something, like this 3% tax proposal and like the recent property tax credit for primary homeowners.   Neither of these proposals were well thought out or will do anything for affordable housing.   The only reason the property tax credit passed is because the BOS had the sole authority to make the decision.   Had this gone to Town Meeting Floor, it would have failed also.   Time to get some strategic thinking leaders on the BOS and say goodbye to some of the children that currently occupy seats on the Board. 
11:37 am edt 

BOS Executive Session Minutes?

 

Did we ever hear why the BOS is still keeping all the executive session minutes hidden from the public regarding the Jaran settlement?  Are they purposefully waiting until after the election to hide their actions?

10:33 am edt 

You've Got a Problem

 

BOS chair is never going to chastise Yingling, they are best buds.  Add to it now the town manager who Yingling and Donegan consider their pal and you've got a problem.

10:31 am edt 

Clarification

 

To clarify I was a strong outspoken opponent of article 7 that was proposed in the STM👍🏼

 

9:00 am edt 

Why Cant We do This With the Community Center?

 

I'm not sure the voters want to see residences in this particular location. Maybe not every building needs or should be housing. We need to keep a balance. Just a thought..

Wellfleet Preservation Hall:

WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE'VE DONE

Wellfleet Preservation Hall represents a unique blend of past and present. The building, formerly the site of Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church had suffered from years of neglect. In the last months of 2006, the creative reuse of this nearly century old building was envisioned by a small group of Wellfleet residents. Under the leadership of Marla Rice, Anne Suggs & Ellen LeBow a non profit 501 c3 organization was formed.The challenge was to preserve a unique part of Wellfleets architecture, breathing new life and new use into the space left vacant and deteriorating. The mission: To bring vibrancy and a sense of community back to Main Street by creating a unique hub at Wellfleet Preservation Hall that offers space for the intersection of art, culture and community.

WPH launched a multi-year capital campaign to raise the estimated $2.6 million needed for the project. The vision of a welcome gathering space in the center of Wellfleet seemed to capture the imagination of many residents. WPH was awarded a very generous start up grant of $500,000 from the Community Preservation Commission. Through the hard work of a dedicated board of directors, the personal commitment from numerous donors and further grant awards from the Massachusetts Cultural Council, the United States Department of Agriculture, local banks, businesses and foundations the reality of this dream came to life. The Groundbreaking was held on the Spring Equinox of 2010 and the doors to Wellfleet Preservation Hall opened nearly a year later in May 2011.

8:58 am edt 

Re: In Praise of Wayne Martin

And that's why I stated he should have ran for selectman and that's why I'm writing him in as a write-in candidate.

ELECT WAYNE MARTIN, WRITE IN CANDIDATE AS SELECTMAN
8:54 am edt 

From Wayne Martin

To whom ever gave me praise over my arguments over articles 26 & 27 I'm afraid it was misplaced but appreciated, you must have me confused with someone else, although I was totally against 26. Just to clearify usually they refer to me as a little off or just plain crazy not half witted and never to my face LOL. I was however an extremely outspoken opponent of article 7 and couldn't be more elated that it didn't even come close to passing. Once again I thank the voters for sending a loud and clear message to TM, FinCom and the BoS in this matter and I hope they all realize that this article irreparably damaged their credibility!
8:53 am edt 

Friday, April 8, 2016

In Praise of Wayne Martin
 
For all of the individuals that referred to Wayne Martin as a half wit over his arguments regarding
Article 26 and 27, please take note, he was right and his sentiments were reflexed in the Town Meeting votes.
 
Ergo, it follows evidently: Quality is more important than Quantity. 
11:48 pm edt 

Overall Review

We've learned that the selectmen are once again but even more so, disconnected from the people they represent, the voters are becoming more intelligent and are paying attention to issues, the important issues raised over the past year are still crisis issues and aren't going away and this blog has exposed to many many people the problems with this towns government.

Of course the selectmen are reading this blog and will absolutely disagree with most of the above but hey, again, they have no clue how bad it is when looking from the outside in at them.
8:44 pm edt 

Provincetown Board of Selectmen

 

Who are they Really?

I am tired of their arrogance and know-it-all-it is.  they just believe they are the best and the brightest and they are so far short of any standard. they disappoint. they fail us. they should be ashamed.

7:26 pm edt 

Town Meeting Observation

 

Well isn't this something, Bolsheviks in a pissing contest with Utopians.

7:23 pm edt 

Re: At town Meeting

  

The Woman who addressed the selectmen as Select People was Louise Silver, also called Wheezy.  She is a very difficult person who always creates trouble.  It is embarrassing that she called our moderator that horrible name under her breath.

7:21 pm edt 

Re: Housing Trust

"Amazing that there are so many negative comments in this blog about the effort the BOS is spending fostering affordable housing, but everyone voted in favor of the Year Round Market Trust and funding it with an additional $500,000, which is nothing more than subsidising the rent of people that can not afford to live here"

What you don't understand is that it has to be voted in subsequently at the polls. Just because it passed at town meeting means nothing.

for the record- I am voting for it.
7:19 pm edt 

In Days of Yore - Once Upon a Time

 

Oust  David Bedard, David McChesney and Elaine Anderson at any cost.  Bring in Donegan, Richter and Yingling.

Doesn't look so smart anymore does it?   Just as the Republican Party created Donald Trump, many people on this blog created the Donegan/Richter/Yingling fiasco.  I long for the days when we had Selectmen who were prepared when they came to their meetings.  I long for the days when Selectmen thought about more than just a single issues.  I long for the days when Selectmen had integrity.

1:54 pm edt 

Re: Housing Trust

 

Amazing that there are so many negative comments in this blog about the effort the BOS is spending fostering affordable housing, but everyone voted in favor of the Year Round Market Trust and funding it with an additional $500,000, which is nothing more than subsidising the rent of people that can not afford to live here.

11:58 am edt 

Petulant Erik Yingling

 

Petulant Erik Ding a Ling should be chastised by the BOS Chair for his discourse with Clarence. The next original thought of Erik's will be his first, he only parrots what Tom Donegan wants said. That being said, no one will remind Erik that he is an elected official, and as such should try to act intelligent (the key word here being act in Eriks case), not childish because he is Donigans puppet.

By the way, Donigan hopefully will be gone soon, although not soon enough.

11:56 am edt 

A Little Insight

This Eric Yingling is not the same Eric Yingling that many of us once did support. ne was then a young potential, with energy and hope. Now he is self-centered, driven by weird ideas, and goes after people in town with a vengeance. who can support the person he now is? Few of us now can.
11:54 am edt 

From: Wayne Martin

   
We don't want a police station at the VFW site its a waste of a valuable resource, it's fine where it is! The Winslow deal had 5% housing 95% new, giant, totally unnecessary and way to costly police station push behind it. The people didn't vote down housing we voted down the police station, dishonesty and lack of transparency it couldn't have been any clearer! Now if we can just concentrate on putting some housing at the VFW site while leaving the existing building for community functions or another equally suited use that would be great. Let's start seeing some plans along those lines and I can almost guarantee the town will get behind it. Also if you use local contractors it will keep the costs way down  and keep the money in our pockets to boost our economy at least that's what research has shown. That police station has served its purpose for years and will continue to do so for many more, after all a tiny town doesn't need a huge militarized police station especially if regionalization is in our future. By using the monies allocated to it for repairs the police station will remain functional for many years to come. If you need some volunteers for labor to keep the costs down just ask! I for one will be glad to do my part.
10:23 am edt 

Rob Scott Posed on Provincetown Beacon

 

This is weird reading this. Several years ago , Clarence had our band, led by lately deceased Rick the Stick, play for a benefit for a new candidate for BOS named Eric Yingling. To us it was just a gig . Now they fight publicly.

8:36 am edt 

Zoning Act, MGL 40A, Section 5

 

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU..

For this information.--Zoning Act, MGL 40A, Section 5-- Not for me, because I've already converted my properties into condo--but for my neighbor.

My senior neighbor has such anxiety about this whole issue. She doesn't want to accrue any more debt--and she just can't afford a raise in her taxes much less spending money to secure her property.

At least now she can relax for two years and "save up" or make financial arrangements to get her multi-family secured as condos.

Thank you again for this information..I didn't know that such legislation existed..Now please tell Selectmen Yingling and his cousin et al.

8:26 am edt 

Tom Donegan BOS Candidate

Bye Bye Donegan.
 
Failed BOS Chair! 
12:53 am edt 

Thursday, April 7, 2016

At town Meeting

 

The woman who referred to "Select People"

Who was the woman who addressed the selectmen as "Select People"?  In a very nice way, the moderator corrected her and told her the appropriate term was selectmen, whether they were male or female.  After this woman sat down, she called the moderator a b**** and went on and on in a rude manner.  What is her problem?  The moderator was only doing her job.

10:41 pm edt 

Zoning Act, MGL 40A, Section 5

No proposed zoning ordinance or by-law which has been unfavorably acted upon by a city council or town meeting shall be considered by the city council or town meeting within two years after the date of such unfavorable action unless the adoption of such proposed ordinance or by-law is recommended in the final report of the planning board.

Read the entire link
https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleVII/Chapter40A/Section5

Good bye condo conversion bylaw!!!
10:40 pm edt 

Erik Yingling, Erik Yingling, Erik Yingling

 

How many times is he going to bring up this Condo Ban?

What has the board of selectmen dissolved into but a group who are out for themselves in the name of "affordable housing".

Remember when he and then his cousin ran for office and their mantra was jobs, jobs, jobs?

Now this petulant person says that he is going to bring this up every year ad-infinitum. The selectmen are supposed to be about overseeing the entire town--not be the handmaiden for the developers and affordable housing ONLY.

The world has changed. The middle class has dwindled. Now the selectmen want to change this economic course by putting people's housing on the backs of the taxpayers.

What a perverse world view he holds--We are a summer resort. The world has changed--the town has changed in my lifetime. When I came here I met people who had a house, a car, AND A STUDIO..while collecting unemployment in the winter.

I remember when people went away for the winter and folks who stayed HOUSE SAT rent free for the winter.

That world has vanished. Erik Yingling and his cousin are clawing at the wind, trying to bring back a vanished world and all they are doing is creating divisiveness, discord and animosity.

It is becoming entrenched in some segments of society here. Renters feel entitled and they are demanding that the taxpayers provide them with housing that maintains a vanished way of life.

Sadly, these petulant people are seeing their youth fade in the rear view mirror as they approach their late mature thirties and are heading into middle age with no financial security--all with their eyes open.

They expected to become selectmen and with all of their wishing and hoping bring back that vanished world that existed here when they were young--but that economy and world of jobs vanished years ago and will never return.

I was in graduate school and worked here a summer and decided to take a semester off and was able to sublet a one bedroom apartment in the Chelsea area of New York for a semester for a pittance--do you think that this would be possible anymore?

Keep bringing up your own personal articles each year and get the other selectmen to sign on.

All you are doing is feeding the derision that is growing in this community towards you. Keep lashing out. Keep demonstrating that you are an embarrassment as a selectman.

You are doing yourself no favors. How you and your cousin can show your faces much less strut around is beyond me.

I guess that you guys truly believe that you are famous in your own minds--when in reality what you are as selectmen is infamous in the minds of many people here.

And the thing is: I feel sorry for you. 

10:38 pm edt 

Re: From: Erik Yingling

Proving once again after having proven it over and over and over in the past, yes, Erik, you are a child, a small minded, spoiled, provided for, immature and self absorbed child that wants his ice cream (condo conversion bylaw) and when he can't have it, throws a fit and blames everyone else for the failures that, without question, are his own fault. You are not intelligent, you are not open minded and you are not insightful. You ARE, as you stated, young and new to this game of politics. You ARE clueless and your cousin is too as far as what it really takes to live in this town as neither of you own real estate in the town. You ARE immature coming on to this board and calling out someone that disagrees with you at town meeting (why not have at him there? (already know the answer, gutless))

Why not get your act in gear and figure out that fact that the town has no guide going forward, no master plan up to date? Why not put the heat on getting that plan in place? Why not get a master plan for the VFW? Why not get a master plan for all town buildings and use them to their highest and best value to the town as opposed to a developer? Oh wait, that means you'de have to put the pressure on your ex squeeze, the town planner, right? Why not wake up to the fact that you have no clue what you're doing and cannot defend your directions?

BTW, if the condo bylaw didn't pass and it's a zoning article, isn't there a provision in state law that prohibits the article from coming up again for two years if it fails? I think it's time to look it up and get the facts from counsel. If true, this is dead in the water Erik my boy.
10:33 pm edt 

Re: From: Erik Yingling

"Dear Clarence,"


You're supposed to be a Selectman, not a petulant, spoilt, child. Clarence was right, actually, and the vote in the room should have told you that no one is interested in this concept. You can bring it up as many times as you like, and it's going to meet the same fate. What does it take to get it through your thick head? This is what we get for leadership? Someone who can't listen to the town voters? That's why blank almost beat you the last time. So here's some grown-up advice for you: drop it. Look for ways to accomplish whatever goals you have in another way because this one isn't palatable to the VAST majority of voters. Or haven't you got it in you to figure out another way to preserve rental housing here? Or maybe you're just not intelligent enough? Or maybe, speaking frankly, insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. I used to support you, but you lost me kid.
5:41 pm edt 

Yingling Just Doesn't Get it!

 

He says he is going to keep bringing back his condo ban article at every town meeting. HE is the reason people are converting to condos. I know that's why I did. I had no intention of doing so but he wants to take away 30% of my property value without compensation. Gee, I wish I had a rich Grandma to leave me $$$$$$$, but I have had to work for everything I have.

5:39 pm edt 

BOS is Devisive, Power Hungry and Unintelligent

 

This BOS has been the most devisive- power hungry - and most importantly- unintelligent when it comes to business, economy and identifying and researching consequences of articles that are literally created without thought and real expertise.

I believe you will go down in history as one of if not the worst BOS this town has ever had. The Lack of economic and business expertise astounds me. Honestly- Erik Yingling scares me the most- however the biggest dissapointment is Tom Donegan. I have heard he came from a large corporation. How can he be so clueless on basic business models and economic trends? 

I find it baffling and confounded. Cheryl tries -but even being a business owner- I would expect more overall economic expertise from her. Honestly- Bobby Anthony has the most wisdom etc. but due to his profession as a realtor must abstain quite often.

Mr. Panagore- you need to step up to the plate and stop pandering to the 3 machos on the BOS or you will be taken down with them- just my analogy.

2:44 pm edt 

To: Erik Yingling

 

I'm not a fan of Clarence, but for Yingling to lecture Clarence on childish behavior is priceless.  What a fool

Eric you may be young, but your time as a Selectman is over in two years.  You won't get re-elected.  Guarantee it.

2:20 pm edt 

To Erik Yingling and the BOS

 

With developers raking in the big bucks and the town being cowed into spending millions on land for their housing projects, with no YEAR ROUND jobs to bring people income and with the voters SAYING NO to affordable housing for people to live here part time on the backs of the taxpayers.

People are waking up. It doesn't make you a bad person not to vote for these articles--it shows that you are seeing the big picture of the correlation of jobs and housing.

We are a SUMMER RESORT FOLKS. The world has changed, you can't work 6 months and live here year round and sustain a middle class life.
10:58 am edt

Exactly- When will these selectmen wake up?? JOBS JOBS JOBS. Without year round jobs this affordable house is nothing but a dream. We have more than enough already- Stop making these deals  with these big time developers who get rich off this housing leaving it vacant 6 months or more during the year. There should be an investigation into how many who reside in the shankpainter housing facility REALLY live there year round- I know of 5 who work the system- leave for florida - collect unemployment and return. There are not year round jobs. What will it take for this board to get this through their brains.  
Community housing is a different story. We should concentrate on controlling our stock of housing for the people in this town who have been waiting for years only to be bumped out by someone from a completely different part of the state to  40B housing regulations. (unless of course you know a certain selectmen who pushes you to the front of the line in the 40B)   So there goes it- Louise - Cheryl- Robert Anthony- please take note- you are smart people. This is and will continue to be a tourism economy. Without a viable business element coming into this town those are the facts. Concentrate on getting business here. (education has been named numerous times- adjunct college  Etc.  Please enough- enough with 40b affordable housing). As far as Erik Yingling calling Clarence out on this blog- I find it mind blowing. Clarence had the balls to get up there and say what so many were feeling. Erik- you have a very large EGO- You need to grow up- You need to leave the BOS. You are out of line and lack professionalism and knowledge. If you bring this up one more meeting- you will  be voted out the door. I am surprised many are not calling for a recall after your disparaging remark towards realtors. That showed your TRUE colors. That was deplorable and not the make up of what WE THE TOWNSPEOPLE  desire in a board of  selectmen. How dare you single out one group according to their livlihood. THAT is serious Narcisstic, self absorbed behavior. I find it downright Scary an elected BOS made such a comment. It appears to me the BOS with the exception of 2 is becomming more and more like this. I know for one- I will not tolerate it as long as i live in this town nor will my colleagues. Mr Panagore- you best step up to the plate now- if this festers, you too will be pulled into this merely by sanctioning such abhorrent behavior.

2:18 pm edt 

An Observation

 

I can't wait for the day all the short-sightedness and self-centered greed bites you in the ass...sweating the H2B limits yet?  Just wait -- soon enough, there won't be anybody coming here to work when it's convenient for all you cheap *****, and you'll have to staff your own stores full-time, drive out of town to eat, and literally clean up your own toilets, used condoms, empty booze bottles and drug paraphernalia....and Clarence, you calling Yingling a petulant child is hysterical, you vindictive little "token"...

2:14 pm edt 

To: Erik Yingling

 

I am not Clarence. I am however a property owning full-time resident of Provincetown. Please stop. I realize this is a very expensive town in which to live. It may be difficult to find a place to rent for some. However we cannot continue to devote so much time to housing for a group of people that for the most part cannot work yearround. There is not now, nor in all likelyhood will there ever be a thriving yearround job market in Provincetown.  Attempting to punish property owners is not a solution, it has become a dividing issue that is not welcome by most of us.

1:14 pm edt 

Wayne Martin - Posted in Provincetown Beacon
 

To the TM, BoS and FinCom- oh what a tangled web we weave we first we practice to deceive󾌣

 
12:50 pm edt 

Want to be the Last Condo in Town

I hope that the ban on condo conversions passed because I've already converted my properties into condos..and banning any future condo conversions only make mine More ****Valuable***. 

Thank you selectmen Yingling and Tom and the gang!!!!
12:43 pm edt 

Re: To: David Panagore - Town Manager

 

"Apparently owned by McPherson and owned by Donegan and Yingling and this threesome--in more ways than one--will prove dangerous for Panagore's future."


Already has been reckless and dangerous to Provincetown's future. This is what happens when the quest for power in all three is the driving priority. Big fish in a small polluted pond, syndrome.

12:40 pm edt 

From: Erik Yingling

 

Dear Clarence,

Your little tirade was way over the line last night. clearly you are unable to disagree without still being respectful. I'm  a child that wants my ice cream? A new low in public discourse and you should be ashamed.

Condo conversion by law is coming back every town meeting. From now on. I'm young and I have nothing but time on my side and without the passage of this law we won't have any rental units left except for the affordable housing that you decry and spread misinformation about year after year.

I'm sad for you. You only devote your efforts to tearing people down rather than finding solutions for our community.


Very sincerely,

Erik Paul Yingling

12:34 pm edt 

Donegan Must Go!

Donegan must go! In fact Yingling should  be recalled.
 
There are many who would welcome their absence. 
11:41 am edt 

Re: To: David Panagore - Town Manager

 

"He is a kept man, apparently owned by McPherson and owned by Donegan and Yingling and this threesome--in more ways than one--will prove dangerous for Panagore's future. Attached to them, his reputation will be tainted and the level of respect will involve a fast fall. He should be independent and work for all of us--not this threesome seeking power."

To me, at least, the jury is still out for Panagore, but all this crap about "owning" people is silly.  Plenty of people agree with others without any "owning"involved. To your mind if I happen to agree with their point-of-view they "own"me.  There is s good chance that You know me and know that no one has ever, or ever will, "own" me. Donegan and Yingling need to go, but that does not mean the Panagore is in the same category.  Remember, he works for the board.  They are his boss.

11:36 am edt 

Re: To: David Panagore - Town Manager

 

Your Insights on Panagore's Actions and the Ramifications are right on

He is a kept man, apparently owned by McPherson and owned by Donegan and Yingling and this threesome--in more ways than one--will prove dangerous for Panagore's future. Attached to them, his reputation will be tainted and the level of respect will involve a fast fall. He should be independent and work for all of us--not this threesome seeking power.

Wrong direction. Wrong thinking. and when we look at town meeting, wrong articles that fail: one after another. Thus the failure will stick like a wad of putty to Panagore as well.

11:17 am edt 

Re: Listening to the Voters

"Seems like a lost art with this group of selectmen, as well as town staff."

You bring up a great point, but the problem is not just Tom Donegan and Erik Yingling.  Cheryl Andrews is only focused on her agenda and will listen to anyone else's ideas / opinions.  Andrews believes it is her way or the highway.  I have tried to have a conversation with her and she talks in circles and ends each conversation with her pontificating on how she is right and everyone else is wrong.  Why can't Andrews and the rest of the BOS just take moment to listen to other's opinions?  Andrews; we know you think you have all the answers and know what is best for the rest of us, but news flash... you are out of touch.  It may be time for you to step down and allow the voters to fill your seat with someone who doesn't think they know it all and believes they can learn something by listening and not just running her mouth.
11:15 am edt 

R3e: Just Say "NO"

 

"With the defeat of Tom Donegan's/Erik Yingling's STM Article 7 we have begun the process of dismantling the BOS/Planning Board cabal."

I agree that we would be better off without the cousins and Tom, Please stop with the foolish" cabal" stuff. Donegan and Richter are self serving egotists and Eric is just plain stupid and interested in being noticed.  But, cabal, c'mon.

11:13 am edt 

Waiting For Update About the Condo Article

 

Did it pass or fail? Don't understand why the facebook pages don't say a word about last night's Provincetown town meeting.

Usually people fill the pages with stuff. I guess that Ptown voice is just quiet and licking their wounds because they didn't get their rentals built and paid for by the taxpayers.

11:11 am edt 

Mighty Mouse - "Here I Come to Save the Day!"

 

What's the term for people who think they can't get hurt?
Often used for teenagers and people in their young 20s who think they can survive anything and aren't thinking realistically...
Update: They're not ACTUALLY invincible. They *think* they are because they're not rational and are inflating their self importance. (Hence why it's in the psychology section.)
Update 2: "A Superman Complex is an unhealthy sense of responsibility."
Not quite. It has nothing to do with wanting to save people. Just an unhealthy view of their own health.

SCARY: TOM DONEGAN AND ERIK YINGLING. 

11:08 am edt 

Kudos to Marcene

 

She took on town council and won town opinion. She did not back down. She did with grace and conviction. She was true to her beliefs. I hope the BOS will take note and start acting like real leaders. ( Robert Anthony- a true gentlemen and Cheryl Andrews a fisty business minded individual excluded)

11:05 am edt 

Vote "NO" on Donegan!

 

And on election day remember Donagan's role in all of this. Vote "NO" on Donegan send him to new York!

Bravo!  He is out of touch with reality. He is living in his husband's world and trying to finish the work he wanted to finish- Even more-he is following YINGLING- a nice enough person but terrible businessman and poor planner. His reality is the public's "pie in the sky"  . He has to put the town OVERALL first. Not select groups. The most disturbing fact is Tom Donegan a suppossed busineessman in his mid 50's age bracket is following Yingling's lead -scary- watch how quiet and subdued Richter gets. He is going to seperate himself from Tom Donegan and Yingling.

They are now toxic. 

11:03 am edt 

Advice to Yingling

Stop acting like a petulant child.  When you belittle realtors be ause they are in the audience you looked like a spoiled brat.  People are starting to vote [down] housing articles just because you are pushing them.

If you really care about housing perhaps you should step down.  You are hindering any efforts to benefit housing with your child like behavior.
11:01 am edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

 

It is agreed that when Hatch is behind something or speaks in favor, he is such a hard to like personality and arrogance, it turns off the vote. I wouldn't want him in front of anything I wanted to pass by voters in this town.

10:59 am edt 

Affordable Housing Backlash

With developers raking in the big bucks and the town being cowed into spending millions on land for their housing projects, with no YEAR ROUND jobs to bring people income and with the voters SAYING NO to affordable housing for people to live here part time on the backs of the taxpayers.

People are waking up. It doesn't make you a bad person not to vote for these articles--it shows that you are seeing the big picture of the correlation of jobs and housing.

We are a SUMMER RESORT FOLKS. The world has changed, you can't work 6 months and live here year round and sustain a middle class life.
10:58 am edt 

Re: Posted on Facebook by Selectmen Raphael Richter

                                         

"If you read Raphael's post and reacted in the way above, it means you are an old person who doesn't understand technology and how it plays into modern life for people under the age of 40.

You're the problem. Get with it."


Yeah, like the millennials have the world all figured out. Like the skills of true attention and concentration are for fogies, and the whiz-bang-tech-hipsters can do a million things at once because, well, genius. Ah, the folly of young twits. 

10:53 am edt 

Wednesday, April 6, 2016

Seize the Day!

 

Vote NO on Articles 26 & 32

The BOS is not listening. Therefore we have to force the  issue with our vote.

Just say "NO"!  

5:28 pm edt 

Just Say "NO"

 

With the defeat of Tom Donegan's/Erik Yingling's STM Article 7 we have begun the process of dismantling the BOS/Planning Board cabal.

Stay focused and let's defeat the forth coming  Article 26 (cONDO CONVERSION BYLAW) and Article 32 (iNCLUSIONARY HOUSING BYLAW). This will send the message that we the voters demand that our wishes be complied with by the BOS.

And on election day remember Donagan's role in all of this. Vote "NO" on Donegan send him to new York! 

4:48 pm edt 

Listening to the Voters

Seems like a lost art with this group of selectmen, as well as town staff. They seemed determined to yell their positions and demand that we, like sheep, mew our responses. It's a place to hear from us--not to hear from you in such a loud and circus-like way.

A new approach--listening--would be a good first start. It is not about you--it is about us, the voters and residents and our wishes and our understanding of issues.

Why does this seem foreign?
11:28 am edt 

Anti - Condo article

Did the Yingling article banning condo conversions pass or fail?
11:26 am edt 

Re: April 5th Town Meeting - Winslow/Community Center Swap

"The Winslow/Community Center swap was overwhelming voted down last night. On the surface it seemed like a good deal. Maybe if the Fincom chair promoting it was not such a snarky unlikable person it may have passed."

First, thank you for attributing so much power to me. Who knew I could sink an article to 300 diverse people, most of whom opposed this article for different reasons!

Second, all of us knew going in that it was a toss-up at best, but that's because we all talk to people. You should do the same, then you'd know exactly why something doesn't pass without having to make up personal items about the people who volunteer for the town. Did you put forward an idea to help with housing? Which article on the Warrant is yours?

Third, I think you want me to take this personally. I don't. I backed the article for the reasons I stated and the people have spoken, so we've already moved on. That's Democracy. It's obviously difficult for you to.

Mark Hatch
11:24 am edt 

From: Wayne Martin

I want to thank all the people that voted down Article 7. This sent a clear message that we are tired of being lied to and we will not put up with corruption. For the people that voted for it, I don't know was your reasoning could have possibly been but please in the future think for yourselves and do your homework before you vote. I say this because while on the break last night during the town meeting there were several gentlemen out side discussing with two other men they came late as I did to the meeting,if the article 7 got brought back up they should vote for it. So again just please use your heads and don't be sheep.

P.S. I love this town and you have no idea how happy it made me to have several speakers on Article 7 tell the town in their own words that they thought they were being lied to by our so called leaders, I applaud you for your courage and conviction, Bravo
11:22 am edt 

From: Wayne Martin

Again the reason that I did not take out papers is because of our pending lawsuits against the Truro and Provinctown Chiefs of Police that most likely will be filed before summers end. To the coward that keeps saying I'm crazy or in this case "I'm a little off"because I speak my mind, just try proving anything I said about any of my posts are false! I think you must have me confused with my siblings, I'm the one with no record and that hasn't been tested positive over and over again for drugs, not to mention be kicked out of place upon place and at 50 years old gad no where to live besides my mothers basement, I don't drink have never smoked and I always go out of my way to help people. The rumor got started years ago by the police with no basis in truth because I stood up to them, by the way slander and libel are some of the complaints in the lawsuit. One example Truro's Lt. Danziger wrote in his reports that I slaughtered a litter of pups and killed both adults just to get a coyote pup for a pet. The truth is the X Truro harbor master found a litter of pups behind his house a gave them to me before they even had their eyes open. I then hand raised and bottled fed them for 7 weeks and gave 4 of them to the Bantnstable rehab center for animals and kept the runt not to mention the Police telling the mothers of young girls that I was a pedophile and a rapist. Why don't you try naming people who thing I'm crazy that have even spoken to me that aren't cops or friends of cops or better yet put your name to your words you coward!!! It's been my experience that people don't listens to cowards and take them seriously.
11:19 am edt 

Observation

 

Town meeting will reconvene on April 6, not March 6.

 

Webmaster Comment: Thanks 

11:15 am edt 

To: David Panagore - Town Manager

Hopefully, David Panagore, Town Manager, will have learned a lesson from the outcome of the April 5th Town Meeting.
 
His Article 7 Special Town Meeting presentation was a grand display of conflation, obfuscation and arrogance.  He presented what was purported to be the various alternatives from which the voters had to consider regarding the Winslow Farm - Community Building land swap.
 
Town Meeting voters did not buy his presentments as representative of all the facts. He was too much the Texaco salesman promoting the Donegan, Yingling, Richter package. It does appear  that he has been smitten by the logic and apparent power of the triumvirate, which will  prove to  be  a defining factor in his future  relationship with Provincetown. It does not bode well.
 
The issues which bothered the majority of citizens were the questions surrounding the  final assessed values of the various properties in question, the number of proposed dwelling units, the use of gallonage, the bid value given  the proposed buyer as opposed to that which was advertised to other prospective buyers, the effects on  the Historic District, the Police Station, lack of a complete design concept and alternative uses.
 
As was brought out by citizen Jennifer Cabral, "where is the long term plan"? She was referring to the long awaited Local Comprehensive Development plan, which is almost 3 years in the making - with no results. 
 
Panagore, has a problem with his Town  Planner who is instrumental in the above activities, who is  also responsible for the over arching Local Comprehensive Development plan. She has been engaged in a multitude of activities e.g. land swap, Condos Conversion Bylaw and the Inclusionary Housing Bylaw; none of which has the sentiment of  the general populace, without an explanation as to its relationship to the overall plan.
 
Without altering his course, he will find that he is entering the head-wind zone which will  result in his being in irons....dead in the water. 
 
  
11:11 am edt 

Re: Posted on Facebook by Selectmen Raphael Richter

"This was endorsed by BOS Chair Tom Donegan!
This shows his utter contempt for the Citizenry of Provincetown!"

"Provincetown Selectman encourages voters to come to town meeting and play on their electronic equipment.  Not come to town meeting and become informed, just come and play."


If you read Raphael's post and reacted in the way above, it means you are an old person who doesn't understand technology and how it plays into modern life for people under the age of 40.

You're the problem. Get with it.
9:59 am edt 

An Observation

 

Just stop the personal stuff. It's unhelpful and un-community like.

9:20 am edt 

To: Wayne Martin

 

Wayne, people don't confront you about confusing facts with your opinion because they don't really take you seriously.  They think you're a little 'off'.  You're embarrassing yourself.

9:15 am edt 

April 5th Town Meeting - Winslow/Community Center Swap

The Winslow/Community Center swap was overwhelming voted down last night. On the surface it seemed like a good deal. Maybe if the Fincom chair promoting it was not such a snarky unlikable person it may have passed.
9:14 am edt 

April 5th Town Meeting - Land Switch Outcome

 

Waiting to read what happened at town meeting with the land switch article and the Yingling condo article.

Nothing on facebook yet or here..must have been an exhausting meeting.

9:12 am edt 

April 5th Town Meeting

 

Had to smile in amazement to the guy who wanted to ask questions about his own property and how the residential exemption applied to him.

9:10 am edt 

Wayne Martin

So now, after all of his hard work and exposure of the truth, the article WAS VOTED DOWN!!!

Why hasn't Wayne Martin taken out papers for thiS years election??? He got it done at TM, why not as a selectman??

WRITE IN WAYNE MARTIN FOR SELECTMAN!!!
9:07 am edt 

Tuesday, April 5, 2016

From: Wayne Martin

 

"Since when do we rely on Wayne Martin to give us the facts?"


Since it seems to be I am the only one or at least one of the very few who puts his name to his posts. Also I can't think of one instance to date that anybody has shown what I've said to be inaccurate or a " lie " in any way shape or form. All I have seen is cowardly anonymous posts calling me names and defaming my character. So continue being a coward and anonymously making comments about me and I will keep reporting the truth about what has happened and is happening in Ptown and Truro and we shall see who serves their community the best.

12:01 pm edt 

From: Wayne Martin

 

Mr. Hatch it's quite obvious which post belong to you because you state the same BS over and over again. The DPW was never going to go anywhere else they're happy where they are. They have simply requested a modestly equipped metal building roughly costing $200,000.00 to house and work on town property. None of you have even seen fit to put an article in any of the town meetings in all the years they have been requesting it. Ever since the plans for the joint Police-DPW compound was shot down the DPW hasn't been on your radar at all. You've already stated if the vote fails to pass for the Winslow Farms swap " I don't want to hear a word about housing and we will just bring it up in again in the fall for the Police Station" I suspect that even if article 7 does pass there will be NO articles about housing until something happens with the police station. The TM is the DPW directors boss and does what he is told, just like the excuse the town used to let the criminal act!
s that Golden performed to go unpunished, he was just following orders.

8:51 am edt 

This Just In

 

Re: Posted on Facebook by Selectmen Raphael Richter

 

"This was endorsed by BOS Chair Tom Donegan!

This shows his utter contempt for the Citizenry of Provincetown!" 


Provincetown Selectman encourages voters to come to town meeting and play on their electronic equipment.  Not come to town meeting and become informed, just come and play.

Thankfully the fighting idiots in Chatham have distracted everyone from the Provincetown idiots.
8:43 am edt 

Re: From: Wayne Martin

"First off  I appreciate your support, but I most likely will not be attending any of the town meetings the reason being I've been flat on my back for three days now with bronchial, sinus and ear infections, there would be nothing I would love better than to attend the meeting believe me."

No, sorry, I and we don't believe you. You're simply a bomb thrower, someone that wants to incite people to negate the work of others just to relish in the wake of the destruction. You make some good points and there are some questions that I'm sure many would like answered by both you and the BOS but now we will only hear the one side while most will giggle in regards to your postings. 
                                                                                                       
8:41 am edt 

From: Wayne Martin
 
ATTENTION ALL PROVINCETOWN VOTERS

This is a public service announcement. This afternoon while traveling on the flex bus from Provincetown on Beach Point an acquaintance of mine came across several cruisers on the side of the road where they were fixing the power lines. While they passed the scene one of the cops ran to his cruiser and sped to catch up to the bus he passed the bus in these hazardous conditions and made the bus swerve and slide on the road he then attempted to pull over the car that was traveling in front of the bus and had been for sometime without incident. For whatever reason this cop risked everybody's lives to pull this car over is not a good enough one!!! 
 
When the car attempted to stop on the side of the road the cruiser slammed into it. The Cape Cod Times was contacted and made aware of the incident. Myself and CH Foltz posted this on the Provincetown beacon and within moments of us both posting this it was removed and we were kicked off the group. It's my understanding that this is the doing of Mark Hatch Chairman of the Provincetown Finance Committee who has been pushing for the swap of the Provincetown Community Center and a piece of property on Winslow Street to make room for the new police station. Mr. Hatch as well as the Town Manager have lied on several occasions about the reasoning of the swap.
 
It's my belief and the belief of numerous others that they have manipulated appraisals and pressured Town employees into misrepresenting the truth in this matter. It is a well-known fact that the one and only reason for the swap is to secure a location for an extravagant unnecessarily large police station.
 
I also highly doubt that anyone that works for the town will bring up the fact that Mr. Henrique is willing to sell his property which will cost the town far less then it will to trade off this valuable resource, especially if the intention of this property is just to put affordable housing like they have claimed. They have also lied stating that the current police station cannot be added to or renovated. This is one of the biggest lies that were told by the Town Manager and several of the town employees.
 
It is a fact that the current site can be easily renovated and at least doubled the size without purchasing any additional property and will cost the town approximately half of what it will cost for an unnecessary and extravagant new police station or should I say armed military fortress, which would best describe the plans that they have for it!
 
Nice try Mr. Hatch on trying to keep the people of this town uninformed and ignorant of the truth but with people out there like me and my supporters the truth will always be known.
12:08 am edt 

Monday, April 4, 2016

Police Station - Over Spending - Declining Future?

 

I love the back n forth here in Provincetown, so here's mine-


This town Does NOT need a NEW Police Station, an Updated one , Yes. You're not living in a major city, with any surge of recurring crimes, no real year round need for policing a near non existent population. It's another waste of money, as usual.


Folks talk about Affordable Housing. How do you expect to make that work? Selling ,buying ,trading land, and the developers put in more condos at rediculous prices , with sub par affordable units to rent. Everyone is not looking to buy a piece of Provincetown. Try putting in and demanding 1 bedroom rentals for those that do not have the means or want to buy.  Some one's going to have to wipe your butts when you can't, serve your meals and entertain you. You're not going to be young or capable forever, especially with some of your habits here.


I was visiting a friend at the Gouveia Building, you can hear the neighbors through the walls using the bathroom, upstairs sounds like elephants walking around, no where for them to put the garbage out and parking what a joke, $29,000 for a gravel parking spot. Some shoddy work inside. Can only imagine what the affordable housing people are having to put up with. But I'm sure John Golden and the BOS won't be looking to help anyone there.

Can we say Province Landing all over.

11:57 pm edt 

From: Wayne Martin

First off  I appreciate your support, but I most likely will not be attending any of the town meetings the reason being I've been flat on my back for three days now with bronchial, sinus and ear infections, there would be nothing I would love better than to attend the meeting believe me. So please don't read anything in to me not being there and chewing some ass, if I think I can attend without coughing all over everybody I will go. Please carry on the good work and fight the good fight in my absence, please show them that we are all not idiotic mindless sheep!!!
11:49 pm edt 

Re: Wayne Martin

 

When we have to rely on Wayne Martin for 'facts' we are in deep trouble.

11:47 pm edt 

Re: Wayne Martin- Community Center/ Winslow Farms - Vote "NO"!

 

The selectmen have said that if Town Meeting agrees to the swap and Savkos plan comes to fruition, 100 percent of the real estate taxes from the former community center will go to the housing trust for the next 10 years, which, Panagore thinks, could generate about $200,000.

This is Unbelievable. So on top of the incredulous appraisals -slanted to entice the trade- adding insult to injury Mr. Savko gets a 1/2 mIllion tax credit then the town gets stiffed on the taxes from the MARKET RATE untis built there for 10 years estimated to be at least a value of $200,000.00  Have The BOS and Panagore lost their minds? So we the working townspeople pay the bill again. When will this end? It won't. Not until Dongegan is out- Then Erik. Then is cousin. They are going to break this town financially. I find it astouding how these issues do not affect them personally. They are entitled and feel they should get the most they can from anyone they perceive has having a buck.

This BOS has served to divide this town in a way that is vindictive and so apparently self served. Fellow Provincetown residents get out and vote tonight . It is so important . Most of all be careful in the inclement weather.

3:20 pm edt 

Re: Posted on Facebook by Selectmen Raphael Richter
  
Wayne Martin- Community Center/ Winslow Farms - Vote "NO"

All I can say is I hope Wayne Martin DOES show (a no show will eliminate any support I have for your insight) and I hope the gadget players DO NOT show. We don't need uninformed people voting in this town.
12:17 pm edt 

Yes to Community Housing

 

I'm not fan of the current BOS, but enough already from the BOS wannabe's negative postings blasting the current board. You had my vote a few weeks ago but no longer. I can't bear to think there's still another month before town elections before your rants die.
And I'll be attending TM to vote for every article that includes the words "community housing" and to vote against every article with the words "affordable housing". There's a huge difference, and the delusions of some sitting BOS members that if enough families with children can be enticed to relocate in Ptown, the school system can be saved and HS resurrected is lunacy.
The other part of the affordable housing equation is JOBS. This isn't Iowa and we don't live in a cornfield, so stop dreaming. No to affordable housing!
I want to 100% support the people who live here & are part of the community. Yes to community housing. And just to remind everyone about why one of the previous attempts to sell the community center failed, it was a few complaints from the neighbors who feared living next to party central when a proposal was made to use a significant part of the space for summer workers (i.e. people who work here...). Thank you BOS for caving on that one.

12:14 pm edt 

Re: Posted on Facebook by Selectmen Raphael Richter

 

What Richter is trying to say is you may not know anything about the issues, or care about town government, but if you want the town to create more subsidized housing you need to be there.  Bring your devices and play on them during the meeting, that's fine.  We just need warm bodies in the chairs who will raise their hands when we need them.

9:43 am edt 

Re: Wayne Martin- Community Center/ Winslow Farms - Vote "NO"!

 

Simple FACT.  Community center is and has been manipulated to come in at a much lower market appraised value. Fact . Winslow farms has been manipulated to come in at a much higher appaised market value. We are tired of this BOS shoving down our throats as others have said their views to ensure a vote in their favor. Vote NO to Winslow farms Trade for community  center with 17 bedrooms market rate. 4 FOUR /3 bedroom townhomes- then 2 /2 bedroom units  then leaves 1 bedroom.  A one bedroom unit.   Where are the specs on square footage of EACH unit.?? Where are impact studies demanded by Duartes ?? Amazing . How does this continue??Wayne - come to town meeting - please voice your opinion. Let's sell  the  community center( On the OPEN MARKET with same terms offerred to Sir James Savko -17 Market bedrooms ) and put the $$ in a fund that CANNOT be touched unlike Grace Gouviea unless voted on at town meeting. Grace gouviea!
  was a massive blunder on the part of the CURRENT BOS-THIS PROPERTY WILL SELL IN EXCESS OF 1.5 MILL-So much for the inept appraisal group hired by the town and paid for by the town- demand our money back!!

Coneen told the selectmen that her group reappraised the community center in January for $605,000  down from $1.25 million two years ago  because of zoning (only residences or a gallery, which would provide the highest value, could be built there), because she was told that only six bedrooms could be constructed by right, and because the building has significantly deteriorated in that time.From Provincetown Banner then......

Linda Coneen, a founding partner of Cape Cod & Islands Appraisal Group, recently appraised the 19,700-square-foot former community center at $605,000, while the Winslow Farm property was valued at $2.3 million. The appraisals raised questions because in 2014 that same company appraised the community center at $1.25 million and Winslow Farm at $1.9 million. The value of the community center dropped, Coneen said earlier this month, because of zoning (only residences or a gallery could be located there); because she was told that only six bedrooms could be constructed by right; and because the building had significantly deteriorated in that time. The value of Winslow Farm went up, she said, because it includes a three-bedroom stand-alone condo and approval for the construction of four more three-bedroom units and one two-bedroom unit on nearly 3,000 square feet of land.  JUST FOR SOME HISTORY!  THEN>>>Mr. Panagore State ON SOCIAL MEDIA EVEN IF 17 MARKET RATE UNITS ARE ATTACHED TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER THE APPRAISER ASSERTAINS THE MARKET PRICE WOULD NOT   YES WOULD NOT   YES WOULD NOT REACH 1 MILL.  THAT IS NOTHING BUT HOGWASH.  It is worth Minimum 1.5 mill same terms. Appraiser is off my 50 percent.  That is one large percentage. Demand our money back for such a bogus appraisal. Or was this all planned??

9:40 am edt 

Posted By Cheryl Andrews - BOS Candidate 12:07 am edt 

Sunday, April 3, 2016

Re: Posted on Facebook by Selectmen Raphael Richter

 

"This was endorsed by BOS Chair Tom Donegan!

This shows his utter contempt for the Citizenry of Provincetown! 

Town Meeting often feels a bit outdated in its pace and methods when viewed through the modern lens of process. But you can still have a good time, or at least keep busy! Why? Well, we all have smart devices! Turn the ringer off, download your favorite games and entertainment, and voila- no more tedious moments! Additionally, bring friends, snacks etc- whatever you need to make contributing to Provincetown worth your valuable time."

 

Sounds like a preemter to a summer camp for 12 year olds and under. How pathetic.

11:51 pm edt 

Re: Dr. Cheryl Andrews and Thomas Donegan - BOS Candidates

 

"There are enough different writing styles to see that there are a number of posters who feel re-electing Donegan and Andrews is not in the best interest of the town..."

This is not true. Although I have yet to comment on the three posters attempting to discredit certain candidates running for Selectman, it is painfully obvious that the posts are similar in length, style, sentiment, timing and subject matter. You're not fooling anyone. And you're most likely running for the Board yourself. You can bet you're not getting my vote.

11:21 pm edt 

From: Wayne Martin to Mark Hatch-FinCom Chair
 

Posted on Provincetown Beacon
April 3 at 6:37pm
 
I wonder if any body figured in the costs of demo-ing a building "VFW" worth several hundred thousand set up like a perfect function hall entertainment facility with very expensive smoke filtration, air condition and heating systems not to mention the huge septic complete with grease traps to have their military fortress put there? The VFW is now being used as a warehouse for what was in the GG and also stores other town property. What about it Mark am I right about that or am I just full of 󾓴? Let me help you out I'm RIGHT because I make it my business to know these things. Next time you call someone a liar you better be looking in a mirror Mr. FinCom member!
8:36 pm edt 

Re: Posted on Facebook by Selectmen Raphael Richter

So in essence, what he's really saying is bring your idiot friends and those that have no idea what they're voting for to town meeting so, like puppets, they can raise their hand in support of things you support and while real discussion and explanation is being conducted to further increase a persons knowledge one way or another, remain ignorant and play your games on your phone.

In a nut shell, I do think that's what most of the members of Town Meeting are, mindless idiots out for an annual ritual of seeing friends after a long winter. Voting intelligently is secondary.
1:50 pm edt 

Re: From: Wayne Martin -Posted in the Provincetown Beacon


So now the TM is relying on the DPW director to finalize the plans to put the police station at the old VFW? Perhaps to keep the DPW where it is?

Seriously?

Wayne, if you could get off of the VFW schpeel for a while, some might start believing you. To post something about a guy who allegedly saw something on the DPW directors desk and then that guy feels something is weird is not legit. Facts. Facts are needed to convince people not innuendo.

1:48 pm edt 

Re: DPW Cleraing Roads?

 

Can someone please explain to me why the DPW is out spending tens of thousands of dollars salting and plowing clear roads.

12:03 pm edt 

Posted on Facebook by Selectmen Raphael Richter
 
This was endorsed by BOS Chair Tom Donegan!
This shows his utter contempt for the Citizenry of Provincetown! 

"Provincetown Town Meeting is tomorrow, Monday 4/4 at 6pm in Town Hall.

If you care about the future of Provincetown, this is your annual opportunity to contirbute to the leadership of our town. You are the legislative body, and you have the power to make a real difference! Recent Town Meeting votes have passed and failed with single vote margins, so every vote truly counts!

Town Meeting often feels a bit outdated in its pace and methods when viewed through the modern lens of process. But you can still have a good time, or at least keep busy! Why? Well, we all have smart devices! Turn the ringer off, download your favorite games and entertainment, and voila- no more tedious moments! Additionally, bring friends, snacks etc- whatever you need to make contributing to Provincetown worth your valuable time.

Provincetown needs you to participate during this annual event, hope to see you there

Please share widely"

 

The only response that can be possibly made to such a stupidly glib comment is:

What the F...?  Is this what they truly think of us?

Donegan has to  go! Break the Cabal!

 

10:53 am edt 

You Call it a Team, I call it a Cabal


Donegan and Yingling, and then they sadly pull in a bright one like Richter, are not a team for the town. They are a cabal for their own self interests and some of the wacky ideas they think are brilliant. But they are not. there is not enough intelligence to ever consider unintended consequences.

A team? No, a questionable twosome that work secret deals, meet secretly and plan what they want--not what we want.
10:32 am edt 

Re: Fool Me Once........Fool Me Twice?


"OK  here is the Real Deal on Winslow Farms...and an incompetent appraiser...in addition requests a tax credit !!  Put this property on the open market..."


Again, the same three people showing they have no idea what they're talking about (or running for Selectmen). I shorted this post to the main points. The appraiser was the same as the last time the properties were appraised (read the reports). The tax credit is from the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT so there's nothing to request. It's a by-product of the deal, which is one of the reasons this works for the developer ONLY. The property has been on the "open market" since 2011. Wow, 5 year and no one has made an offer! What does that tell you when no one makes an offer in Provincetown, where property is flipped for a hobby? Where did all these uninformed and, frankly, stupid, people come from all of a sudden? You can not be for this deal for 50 reasons, but please don't make stuff up. Tell us the EXACT reason that this is a bad deal for the town. If you don't want housing, then JUST SAY SO. If you don't want a police station, then JUST SAY SO. If you hate affordable housing JUST SAY SO. !
You know why you don't and make things up? Because you don't have the cajones to JUST SAY SO.

10:30 am edt 

From: Wayne Martin -Posted in the Provincetown Beacon
 

 

April 3 at 9:15am

 
I just got off the phone with a member of the DPW in Ptown this worker told me that the DPW director just recently had the proposals dumped on his desk by the town manager and and its this DPW workers strong belief his superior was pressured to manipulate the findings and figures to make it look better and more appealing for the police station to be put at the VFW site. I swear this on my fathers grave that what I just stated is the truth! This is the kind of town we live in and the leaders we have!!! These lying pricks keep saying the Swap had nothing to do with the F--King police station!!! Let's send a message to them that we won't put up with this kind of corruption!!!
10:26 am edt 

Re: Wayne Martin

 

2 scoops of crazy=Wayne Martin

10:24 am edt 

Re: Dr. Cheryl Andrews and Thomas Donegan - BOS Candidates

 

"I am convinced the same troll has posted all the negativity on town meeting and on our excellent BOS and Town Manager."

 

There are enough different writing styles to see that there are a number of posters who feel re-electing Donegan and Andrews is not in the best interest of the town moving forward.  Do they represent the majority in town?  Only the elections will tell us that.

10:20 am edt 

Saturday, April 2, 2016

Defeat the Land Swap - Defeat Donegan

We have an opportunity to start the process of eliminating the single minded affordable 
housing click by breaking their hold  on the BOS.
 
Defeating the land swap equals defeating Donegan.
 
Send Donegan on his way to New York! 
11:31 pm edt 

Fool Me Once........Fool Me Twice?

 

"PLEASE, if you care about rebuilding a year-round community, come to Town Meeting and vote for this land swap. Otherwise outside influence will again make the decisions for those of us who love Provincetown and are being pushed out"


OK  here is the Real Deal on Winslow Farms= Savko purchased it for appox $500,000   put approx $300,000 into subpar builiding of spec home- another $500,000  for infrasturcture and " soft costs".  NOT BAD.   1.3 Mill and an incompetent appraiser comes in with a figure of 2.3 mill.  Again,Good for Mr. Savko. Then the Community center comes in at $605,000.00  . Again , Good for Mr, Savko with 17 market rate bedrooms attached to property.  Then Mr, Savko in addition requests a tax credit !!  Put this property on the open market- Forget Mr. Savko.I say take the 1.5 mill plus( keep the same 17 bedrrooms attached offered to Mr. Savko)  on open market and put it in the coffers and save it for the  right time  and place.  Enough irresponsibility!

11:23 pm edt 

I Say: Keep Cheryl - Dump Donegan

One out of two ain't bad. Keep Andrews and make certain Tommy Donegan goes--he is living in New York anyways so just keep here there. then we can have some sanity on BOS decision. Now it is 3-2, 3-2, 3-2. No discussion but many backdoor deals.
11:17 pm edt 

Jaran Settlement

Looks like the ex-chief bought a nice pad in Boston with Kim, thanks to Eric Yingling and other Board members who cost the town over $ 540,000.00 bucks in costs to settle. Bad contract, Bad leadership and who gets screwed the tax payers and our insurance premiums! Will these BOS members ever learn. They are out of their league.
11:16 pm edt 

BOS Elections

My first time posting re: elections, please let's move in a different direction and not re-elect the women who lectures everyone, Ms. Andrews and the Chair, Tom D. who is not a leader. So this isn't a rant just an observation and recommendation. I am also not in favor of the land swap bad idea!
11:14 pm edt 

Dr. Cheryl Andrews and Thomas Donegan - BOS Candidates

 

I am convinced the same troll has posted all the negativity on town meeting and on our excellent BOS and Town Manager. They are attempting to make this BOS contest a farce. For the first time in many years we have a team of people dedicated to keeping Provincetown a community and you have people who are trying hard to discredit that work. Look around you and if you love Provincetown, keep our Board of Selectmen intact, re-elect Dr. Cheryl Andrews and Thomas Donegan back to continuing the initiatives they have started and the team who are helping to bring the town together.

11:13 pm edt 

Re: Cheryl Andrews - BOS Candidate

 

"She sits There and Puts Her Head Down and says little. I don't call this good government but lack of courage and lack of insight  and an inability to lead. No, I just can't do it again."



And, like Hillary Clinton, she just doesn't SMILE enough. Still, I'm voting for Cheryl, like most of the town, despite the same 2 posters going on and on and on.

Looking forward to the election, putting an effective end to some of the bitter and repetitive posts. To say nothing of the Improper Capitalization.

3:36 pm edt 

This Land Swap Opportunity Well Researched and Well Explained

 

It is obvious that the same couple of people are trying to dominate this page and try to start rumors and accusations that just are absurd and un-truths!

This land swap opportunity is well researched and well explained if anyone really wants to read it. The Town Manager and staff, and the Board of Selectmen have done due diligence and presented the swap in terms that give the voters options.

We know what we need, and that is housing first, and a Police station that houses our team a place that works better. That certainly can be voted to stay on the current site by the people voting. It should NOT influence whether we press on with the building of another neighborhood in Provincetown!

Thank you Board of Selectmen, Town Hall Staff, and everyone who has done so much work preparing a decent plan and options for the voters!!

PLEASE, if you care about rebuilding a year-round community, come to Town Meeting and vote for this land swap. Otherwise outside influence will again make the decisions for those of us who love Provincetown and are being pushed out.

3:28 pm edt 

Re: Board of Selectmen Made Me Do It!

Voters cause the tax increases in Provincetown. Uninformed voters that is, voters that don't challenge the unbrideled spending propositions the Selectmen constantly put forward.  If you attend town meeting you will see that normally all requests for spending are approved without much debate or understanding of the proposition.
3:24 pm edt 

Re: Ribbon Cutting Ceremony?


"Wondering why the Town Manager, Chair of Board of Selectmen and Director of Chamber of Commerce are participating in a ribbon cutting ceremony at a local private business?"



First you ask a question, then you say you don't know what this is? Either you're lying or not so bright. I've opened TWO small businesses. Each time we called the Chamber in each location and they sent...SURPRISE!...the Mayor, the head of the Chamber, the local city council rep, and associated other Chamber members to the ribbon cutting. That, in turn, appears in the local papers/websites/etc and is an EXCELLENT PR move. You know there's something in the water here when what's normal in the outside world is conspiracy-theoried here in Provincetown. Please stop making the locals look like a pack of morons. Thanks.

11:22 am edt 

Re: Banner Lettert to the Editor

 

Josephine Del Deo's Letter to the Editor About Maghie Geary is Spot On

Thank you Josephine for reminding us of what is lost when a small business with a big history closes. I too miss seeing all the flowers in the shop and miss seeing Maggie's constant presence when the Provincetown Florist recently closed. There is a loss and you so well articulated what we may take for granted without having the words to speak our loss. Your letter should be posted here in this blog.

Thank you also for helping preserve our history and making us realize the important events that mark this wonderful community. You have helped to make it a significant place to live.

10:52 am edt 

PBG Executive Director - Resigned Effective Immediately

 

Resigned or fired?  And his brother (who BTW I like) took over as interim executive director.  Sounds like another dysfunctional group in Provincetown.  And just prior to the start of the season which isn't the greatest timing.

Good luck Eddie, you are in a difficult position.

10:49 am edt 

Cheryl Andrews - BOS Candidate

 

She sits There and Puts Her Head Down

and says little. I don't call this good government but lack of courage and lack of insight  and an inability to lead. No, I just can't do it again. I can't vote for Cheryl. Nice person but a terrible disappointment.

10:47 am edt 

Ribbon Cutting Ceremony?

 

Wondering why the Town Manager, Chair of Board of Selectmen and Director of Chamber of Commerce are participating in a ribbon cutting ceremony at a local private business? The Chamber of Commerce I can understand, but now can any business request town officials to participate in a ribbon cutting just because a new season has arrived, and they are opening their doors? Shouldn't this be reserved for public ceremonies or new public works projects? What's the ribbon cutting about anyway?

10:45 am edt 

Tom Donegan and Cheryl Andrews - BOS Candidates

 

Tom Donegan and Cheryl Andrews will be re-elected because we know them, they have served this town very well for more years than many people have been here, and have done so with integrity and honor. It's very easy for some (I think it's the same two, if you know what I mean)to critisize without knowing the facts. Some of the things these guys are saying are outright lies and are critical of two very caring and successful and generous volunteers. I am confident the majority of voters are aware and will vote for the future of the town. Donegan/Andrews for re-election!

9:10 am edt 

52 Winslow - Winslow Farm

 

52 Winslow- Don't be surprised if vulture Jim Savko doesn't pounce on this one.

9:08 am edt 

Take Note

 

365 held a town meeting forum.  The only town officials who bother to show up are the ones running for election, Donegan, Andrews & Venden.

9:07 am edt 

Vote : NO" on Winslow Farms!

 

Vote NO on WinslowFarms trade for our valuable Communtiy  Center.  Too many unanswered questions on trade. Way too may questions on appraiser and appraised values. I for one am so TIRED of having these articles forced down our throats.

Erik . Grow up. Raphael. Stop thinking of your own bottom line. Tom Donegan - Retire. The appraisal is flawed( the Winslow farms appraisal and Community Center appraisal)  and if it passes at town meeting the appraisal will be deemed incredulous.There will be a law suit.

LOOK AT GRACE GOUVEIA BUILDING - that developer purchased the ENTIRE BUILDING FOR THE PRICE OF A 2 BEDROOM CONDO . He made MANY millions. THANK YOU TOM DONEGAN AND ERIK YINGLING AND RAPHAEL RICHTER.  There are a number of business people in town who have already established a much higher value than the mere $600,000.00  the "reputable" firm established " with 17 bedrooms attached bypassing growth management That PANAGORE RECENTLY POSTED ON  SOCIAL MEDIA. 

Mr. Panagore - Put you money where your mouth is. We the town have the last say- Not you- Not the BOS. There is a group who plan on taking this to a higher authority. We DO NOT TRUST THE BOS. - 1 or 2 members excluded.NOT Tom Donegan . Not Erik Yingling. Not Raphael Richter.These 3 are out of touch with reality!

9:05 am edt 

Friday, April 1, 2016

Re: An Observation

 

All five selectmen have been abstaining for a couple of years now.  How would it be different now?


That's a question for all candidates.  When would you vote to abstain?  When you don't want to make a decision?

2:22 pm edt 

Re: Available Property Adjacent to Winslow Farms?

I hope this matter will be brought up at town meeting. As a non resident taxpayer, I have no say on the matter as far as a vote and live out of town so won't be able to attend the town meeting but this is crazy. If the town has been offered this property, why no public discussion? Transparency is key here and without clear and open answers, this should NOT go through. So much still needs to be answered.
12:31 pm edt 

Re: Available Property Adjacent to Winslow Farms?

 

When I google 52 Winslow it looks like the property is behind in taxes according to town web site.  It would seem the owner would be willing to negotiate.

8:30 am edt 

Dump Donegan and Andrews

 

It's time for Donegan and Andrews retirement from public life.  They are not capable of leading us forward.

Andrews, in true republican form, only serves as an obstructionist.  Vote against everything, but not bringing forward any ideas.

Donegan already has one foot out the door.  no one is believing his 'bought a condo in NYC as an investment' story.  He's lived here less than ten years and he's buying his next home in another city,  that's not who I want guiding the future of our town.

8:29 am edt 


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