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Monday, November 30, 2015

+My Issue: Some People Care Deeply About this Town...

...not themselves. they give and understand that this town is precious and beautiful and do what they do for this town.

Others---well, self-serving, self-interested and their actions damage this town. they are like the excess methane and carbon gushing from sick wells.

I like the few people who really care. and those who they do---so often don't.
11:34 pm est 

Re: Louise Venden

"She wants more women because many of us are collaborative workers, are able to carry on more civil debate, and an opposition to dispensing persona attacks against others as the men do when one woman dares to disagree....and yes, we ARE better than men in many cases, especially in this town full of male-bitch-wanna-bes"

To quote the best line at the last town meeting, this sets my teeth on fire. I thought the deal was EQUALITY not BETTER THAN. Maybe this poster missed the memo on that...that we all aim to be EQUAL. Which is why you see those EQUAL symbols all over town and, in fact, all over the US. Evidently, this poster has a lot of issues and needs to feel better than someone else. Let me suggest the person do that in Eastham or somewhere else and leave Provincetown alone, as we've been striving for equality for everyone all these years. If this is representative of Ms Venden's outlook, perhaps she, too, should look elsewhere to ply her political trade. Since she likes Ann, Harriet, and that crowd maybe she'll be the next to leave for Florida or a kibbutz somewhere after she's condo'd everything she can get her grubby hands on like Ann.
11:32 pm est 

Re: Louise Venden

 

"Mike and Clarence were no differnt but Hatch is another guy entirely.  EGO??  WOW!!!"

And Mark wins the oppression Olympics too. Check out the Beacon. No one is more oppressed. Boo hoo.

11:27 pm est 

Re: Louise Venden

 

"I looked in the mirror and I'm a white male."

11:22 pm est 

Re: Louise Venden

"Why would Venden need more women on FINCOM??"

Because of the mess men made.

So, I guess we forgive and forget Sharon Lynn......a man made her do it...Huh?
11:19 pm est 

Monday, November 30, 2015

Re: Louise Venden

 

"The rude and ignorant remarks on your blog, yes, your blog, inflame emotions and incite divisions which have crippled this Town for at least 20 years." 

Oh dear.  How to comment?  If you think that Clarence writes all the divel on his blog you are so very, very wrong.  The internet is full of BS sites and the constitution allows it.  Intelligible people can read and believe what they chose.  I hope that you can take to advice offered the other day and learn the legal role of the FinCom.  It has nothing to do with what you state as the role in the Banner.  The FinCom seems to be a haven for ego driven buffoons that want to run the town  They refuse to abide by the bylaws and charter and meddle into everything.  Mike and Clarence were no differnt but Hatch is another guy entirely.  EGO??  WOW!!!

12:31 am est 

Re: Pizza Lady

 

"Some Ptown businesses care about our town and stay open throughout the year, even when they are not making a lot of money." 

What is your point?  Most places close for all or part of the winter.  They are in business to make money not provide a social service.  that is the role of government and non=profits. Why not pick on pepe's of front st or the red inn or Maria cafe or patio etc, etc.  Obvious axe to grind.

12:28 am est 

Re: Louise Venden

 

"She wants more women because many of us are collaborative workers, are able to carry on more civil debate, and an opposition to dispensing persona attacks against others as the men do when one woman dares to disagree....and yes, we ARE better than men in many cases, especially in this town full of male-bitch-wanna-bes"

Uh, so is this the feminist perspective? Pretty sad. And nasty.

12:26 am est 

Sunday, November 29, 2015

Re: Louise Venden

 

Ignore all these morons Louise. You are putting yourself out there,volunteering on town boards. Thank you. People that post on the few sad political threads in this town are not worth the time of day.

7:39 pm est 

Re: Louise Venden

"You clearly are not a woman, because if you were, you would know well the subtle and not so subtle sexism that runs rampant through society, the arts, politics, religion and class distinction, and yes, in our little town. Being born on third base (a white male)..."

Isn't that funny! I wrote the comment and, last I looked in the mirror, I'm not male. I'm just not in the habit of blaming everything that happens to me on males, misogyny, my ethnicity, or my race. I tend to look at myself as the biggest contributor for what happens to me. Maybe you should do the same?
7:37 pm est 

Re: Louise Venden

 

"But Louise, absent from all those events, now tells us that it was because they were women."

You clearly are not a woman, because if you were, you would know well the subtle and not so subtle sexism that runs rampant through society, the arts, politics, religion and class distinction, and yes, in our little town. Being born on third base (a white male), you don't have a clue regarding others (anyone not a white male) struggles, and smugly believe you arrived strictly based on your superior knowledge and "merit". You certainly don't see the eye rolls of the rest of the planet as you strut about importantly, confident of your worth. Bah.

3:18 pm est 

Re: The Beacon

"It's time to bring some accountability."

Isn't this ironic! We have an anonymous person commenting anonymously on an anonymous blog about an anonymous post on another page. If that's not the definition of irony, I don't know what is. How about this? If you're wanting accountability, only post signing your name. That would be accountability. I see some people who post here always do. Otherwise you live in a glass house.
3:16 pm est 

Re: The Beacon

Oh for the love of God! Get real, people! No one "called for anyone's death" on any blog. Some anonymous fool made a ridiculous prediction intended to insult a certain person. Just about anyone with even a minimum amount of intelligence did exactly what they should've done...gasped at the tackiness of the comment, probably thought to themself "what a jackass that said it" and ignored the comment. There are some things said in this town that are just so stupid, they don't deserve any response. That comment was one of them. To imply that anyone who didn't specifically call it out was somehow endorsing it is STUPID! The drama queens in this town are just plain overwhelming at times. And let's face it, the Beacon hardly has the market cornered on tacky or hateful comments in this town.
3:14 pm est 

The Beacon

It's time to bring some accountability.

Mary Jo must remove Hatch and Venden from FinCom for their outrageous posts on the Beacon calling for the death of anyone.  Donegan it's time to  publically ask Andrews to step down. Town Meeting should remove the Town Planner from the budget

This has gone too far, even for tiny town.
12:50 pm est 

Re: Louise Venden
 
Maybe It's time for Louise Venden to Accept Responsibility for her own actions. She may want to blame others for "incendiary" remarks but I believe people are reacting to her selfish and self-centered actions. It's time she looks in the mirror..."

So look at this! This morning, in a certain page on Facebook, Louise is telling everyone that the issues with Sharon, Ann and Julia as it related to the Charter Committee were because they were women! How about that! Here we all were looking at the emails that this blog helped shed light on that exposed all the back room dealings to try to influence how the town was run! But Louise, absent from all those events, now tells us that it was because they were women. Wow, for someone who wants to run for the board of selectman, she's showing a complete lack of understanding and, like a bull in a china shop, just blowing into discussions with theories when she never had a part in them. What a great way to start the process of running. Haven't we had enough of this behavior in the past with Austin and others? We need this again of the board of selectmen? Really poor judgement from her.
11:37 am est 

Provincetown Voice - Vincent Currier

Anyone who is a member of the Beacon, the blog that is adminned by Richard Rogers and Mark Hatch, and participated in by many of our community "leaders", and BOS, and employees of town government....anyone, if you continue to be members and ignore the bad taste and insults to people who care about Provincetown, this post is about YOU!

The blog has reached a new low.

The blog, on November 28th, posted a thread by Rogers asking for predictions for 2016.

My death was predicted and prayed for.

Maybe the admins are inspired by the cruel and fool hearty actions of Donald Trump and the Republican party. Nothing is off limits if it evokes a laugh. It doesn't matter that these insecure and ignorant people do not contribute anything positive and in fact undermine the very people who do!

I hope to see a mass resignation of people, away from this insulting and worthless drivel before it drives the community any further apart than it already has and continues to attempt to do.
Why would anyone who cares about Provincetown belong to this destructive blog? Especially people who are serious about working to make our town special!?

Attached are the posts that concern me. I am referred to on the blog as "Mr. 48 votes". The post is about "predictions for 2016".

Richard Rogers "Mr 48 votes will die by Dec 31, 2016" hater member
Like · 5 hrs
Steve Katsurinis
Steve Katsurinis You know, that is pretty tasteless even for this group.
Unlike · 1 · 5 hrs
Timmer Naylor
Timmer Naylor Someone's having a hard time getting laid, probably a few years backed-up. Honey, buy yourself a robot and get some relief!
Unlike · 1 · 4 hrs.

My "friends" are actually participating in a conversation hoping for and predicting my death....does this kind of rhetoric sound like Donald Trump style, and does it make readers giggle and laugh? Maybe I'm being too serious, but this is not funny humor or productive in any possible way.

I hope responsible and caring people will resign from the Beacon. Period.

Copy/pasted from the Beacon....

Richard Rogers "Mr 48 votes will die by Dec 31, 2016" hater member
Like · 5 hrs
Steve Katsurinis
Steve Katsurinis You know, that is pretty tasteless even for this group.
Unlike · 1 · 5 hrs
Timmer Naylor
Timmer Naylor Someone's having a hard time getting laid, probably a few years backed-up. Honey, buy yourself a robot and get some relief!
Unlike · 1 · 4 hrs

Copied and pasted from MYPACC....
Re: Provicetown Beacon

"Let me get this right. The Chair and Vice Chair of FinCom, And Selectboard members Andrews, And the Chair And the Vice Chair of the Board of Health are all participating in the Beacon thread wishing and praying for the untimely death of a community member who they don't like.

Yes they are praying for someone to die. Is this really the new normal?

And FinCom Vice Chair who lives and breaths the Beacon complains about MyPACC???? What a hot mess.

Get out of the gutter or get out of government."


11:32 am est 

Re: Louise Venden

 

If Louise Venden is the Model for Having More women on boards

then I find that frightful. She is a terrible model and shows not leadership but self-directed actions that lead to more issues. She confuses too many things and she does not bring logic, collaboration, and warmth to this board. Not at all.

No, I want solid people--whoever they are.

10:32 am est 

Re: Louise Venden

 

Maybe It's time for Louise Venden to Accept Responsibility

for her own actions. She may want to blame others for "incendiary" remarks but I believe people are reacting to her selfish and self-centered actions. It's time she looks in the mirror and sees that for many, she is the problem and surely not the solution.

People watch. People judge. I doubt it is this particular blog that is causing problems. She is bombastic, loud, and too often driven by wrong thinking. Therein lies the problem for some. and thus they speak!

10:31 am est 

Re: Pizza Lady

 

I do not know pizza lady nor do I know anything about her motives . She certainly hypes her business effectively,so she is good at it. But, for someone to criticize her pricing is wrong. Every business in town selling pizza asks just about the same.Joon, Sage George HofP, Spiritus.....all the same.

10:00 am est 

Re: Louise Venden
 
I have respected your knowledge and experience, but history and grudges will not move this Town forward.  I am sorry you no longer want to share that responsibility with me, Mark, Stan, Scott and Sheila.

The rude and ignorant remarks on your blog, yes, your blog, inflame emotions and incite divisions which have crippled this Town for at least 20 years.

And, yes, many women here view the attitudes displayed by FinCom board members toward other board members, staff and the public as not just unwelcoming, but engendering attitudes that do not accept thoughtful discourse and respectful hearings with other public bodies and Town staff and residents who come before FinCom.

Please do not publish this on your incendiary blog...but if you do, please print my name.
--
Louise Venden
617-694-1389
 
You are either part of the solution or you are part of the problem.
12:05 am est 

Re: Pizza Lady

 

Count me in as another person tired of the self serving pizza lady.  Instead of he griping and complaining about the food truck which served delicious and reasonably priced food, she should improve the pizza she serves which is average at best.  I prefer Pizza Hut which gives you two medium pizzas for 6.99.  The pizza lady charges 23.32 for one pizza!
Some Ptown businesses care about our town and stay open throughout the year, even when they are not making a lot of money.  Examples are Georges, Fannizzis, Farlands, Napis, Mews and others.  Pizza Lady closes all winter long.  I thought she cares about our town and jobs?  Clearly not

12:01 am est 

Re: Provicetown Beacon

 

Let me get this right.  The Chair and Vice Chair of FinCom, And Selectboard  members Andrews, And the Chair And the Vice Chair of the Board of Health are all participating in the Beacon thread wishing and praying for the untimely death of a community member who they don't like.

Yes they are praying for someone to die. Is this really the new normal?
 
And FinCom Vice Chair who lives and breaths the Beacon complains about MyPACC???? What a hot mess.

Get out of the gutter or get out of government.

11:59 pm est 

Re: FinCom - Louise Venden


 "I don't understand her comments regarding her desire to see more women on the board. Why would a woman be better than a man? It's about numbers, not feelings. Facts are facts, affordable according to the budget or not. What would a woman bring to the board that a man wouldn't or vice versa, what has a man not brought to the board that a woman would? There are plenty of women on boards throughout the town and they have made quite a mess on a few of them. Why would Venden need more women on FINCOM??"


She wants more women because many of us are collaborative workers, are able to carry on more civil debate, and an opposition to dispensing persona attacks against others as the men do when one woman dares to disagree....and yes, we ARE better than men in many cases, especially in this town full of male-bitch-wanna-bes.

11:57 pm est 

Re: Pizza Lady

 

"I love that I am not the only one that thinks that everything Pizza Lady does is completely self serving and that she uses all forms of social media to promote her rather mundane product. Free pint of soft serve with all deliveries! Don't forget, all of the leftover turkey dinner scraps will be on a pizza slice today. LOL. I agree get rid of those gross and badly damaged props in front of the store."

Sounds to me as if people are having a case of sour grapes, because one of our established female business owners is having a measure of success, and enjoying some well-deserved praise....grow up and suck it up, brats!

11:55 pm est 

Re: Louise Venden

 

"Why would Venden need more women on FINCOM??"

Because of the mess men made.

11:53 pm est 

Re: Pizza Lady

 

"I love that I am not the only one that thinks that everything Pizza Lady does is completely self serving and that she uses all forms of social media to promote her rather mundane product. Free pint of soft serve with all deliveries! Don't forget, all of the leftover turkey dinner scraps will be on a pizza slice today. LOL. I agree get rid of those gross and badly damaged props in front of the store."

You don't like her politics.  Ok  But please grow up and be honest.  She  is doing her job as the owner of a small business.  She works hard to promote it.  He pizza is quite good and her service is good. Tell us why you don't want her to try to grow her business.   

11:51 pm est 

Lobster Pots at Lopes Square

 

And another Lighting: the Lobster Pots at Lopes Square

This is such a wonderful tradition and yes it has become a holiday tradition. this lighting links us to the sea, to the fishermen, to the lobstermen and women, and all those of us who live by the sea and love the sea.

How wonderful to have this! So happy Lighting tonight!

Happiness to all!

11:50 pm est 

Saturday, November 28, 2015

Re: Louise Venden

 

Louise,

Please take a few minutes out of your crazy busy schedule and read the Charter and the few Mass laws about duties and responsibilities of the FinCom. Then take a deep breath and try to follow the laws.  Stop with the ego driven expansionism.  The Fincom is NOT in charge of the town's finances.  The FinCom has a very limited job.  Learn it and live it. 

12:08 pm est 

Re: Pizza Lady

 

I love that I am not the only one that thinks that everything Pizza Lady does is completely self serving and that she uses all forms of social media to promote her rather mundane product. Free pint of soft serve with all deliveries! Don't forget, all of the leftover turkey dinner scraps will be on a pizza slice today. LOL. I agree get rid of those gross and badly damaged props in front of the store.

12:06 pm est 

Re-FinCom - Louise Venden
 
I don't understand her comments regarding her desire to see more women on the board. Why would a woman be better than a man? It's about numbers, not feelings. Facts are facts, affordable according to the budget or not. What would a woman bring to the board that a man wouldn't or vice versa, what has a man not brought to the board that a woman would? There are plenty of women on boards throughout the town and they have made quite a mess on a few of them. Why would Venden need more women on FINCOM??
12:05 pm est 

Beer Garden

The temporary roof/gazebo given for a short duration is a structure, plain and simple, said structure needs to conform to zoning regulations such as set backs, etc. Anyone who knows zoning can tell you that it encroaches on the front set back, that being Commercial St. It needs zoning relief in the form of a VARIANCE, which is impossible to grant due to the fact they created the problem. The owners of the business which is a great asset to the town have a relationship to a sitting BOS member. Let's see if they do the right thing! The 3 members of BOS turned the town upside down and I am not sure we are in a better position moving forward today with trust and transparency!
12:03 pm est 

Thursday, November 26, 2015

Re: FinCom - Louise Venden

 

No fool like an old fool! She would fix that which was not broken.

But don't worry she will break it and Mark Hatch. 

11:11 am est 

Re: Banner Front Page Article - "Walker Quits"

 

Ah, Oh, If Only

Peter Brown had asked the CHAIR to find out where FINCom is going??the article was about Clarence Walker Quitting--not about FInCom's future direction as laid out by Hatch. But..one question to Venden, and off she went on and on about the future she will create.

What is this "if only Peter Brown had asked the CHAIR"? Someone has become rather important in this position.

Pride goeth before the fall!!

11:07 am est 

FinCom - Louise Venden

 

I'm for Women in Power

But let's separate the good and bright from the narcissitic and intellectually immature. I would want women on FInCom but not just anyone and not the most narcissitic as vice chair.

11:04 am est 

Re: Pizza Lady
 
Yes ,always for her gain. Hey,pizza lady,take down the giant
Ice cream cones,they are gross!
11:01 am est 

Beer Garden
 
Would it need zoning if it becomes permanent?
9:49 am est 

You Guys are Insightful
 
I like how those who post know so much. They grasp what is going on and the implications of certain acts taken.

I am glad they are posting. They help me better understand what the hell is going on.
11:29 pm est 

Re: Banner Front Page Article - Louise Venden

 

For the record, before she gets buried by misogynistic BS, Louise Venden makes perfect sense. To me. Of course, a lot of (men) don't want to hear it, because they get away with snide and hateful remarks on the Beacon. Angry old men from Ptown and Truro, legends in their own minds. And there's Hatch holding down the rear, trying to be as clever, and yeah, not quite cutting it. 

11:27 pm est 

Re: Pizza Lady

 

Pizza lady is singing the praises of the Soup Kitchen, yet has been raising big money for her own profit making pending pizza program. That's taking money away from SKIP for her own benefit and profit.
Shame Shame Shame Now that's Twisted

11:25 pm est 

Wednesday, November 25, 2015

Perhaps Haggis Has Come to FinCom

Maybe, just maybe, that is what happened.
6:55 pm est 

Banner Front Page Article - "Walker Quits"

 

Peter Brown Has Written A Good Story

He is a good reporter and I like the w ay he told this interesting story. It is even in the telling and then the quotes continue from the new vice chair. Earplugs please!

but back to Peter Brown. He gives weight to the Banner. He is knowledge, dogged and good.

6:53 pm est 

Pizza Lady

 

Please, someone shut down the pizza lady on fb. She complains about a person's post concerning their new stove but give that girl a food truck and watch her spin.

6:06 pm est 

Banner Front Page Article - Louise Venden

 

Sorry to Say But...It's the Louise Venden Show!!

Where is the very old Ed Sullivan Show when you need it. Or maybe, it's Dancing with Stars when there is not one! On her way to be Selectman? Did I read right?

6:04 pm est 

Banner FinCom Front Page Article

 

Oh, Goodness! She Goes On and On

A good article by Peter Brown. He catches all the subtlety of the FinCom situation and Walker's quitting. But then, this woman goes on and on and obviously believes she will whip this new group into line.

thanks Peter Brown for good reporting.

6:02 pm est 

Fools Everywhere--and Here Too

Caitlin Jenner is bored by the democrats--just can't stay awake to hear them--but will vote republican. So here we go. I am rich. I am elitist. I am above everyone else. It does not matter that republicans are homophobic; it does not matter that they are against being transgendered. they are rich and the rich succeed. and Caitlin Jenner is on the winning team.

  A fool. An idiot. An arrogant person unable to understand who will be fore you and who really is against you.

   similar here in Provincetown. Being gay and being republican is simply an oxymoron except for those who are simply morons. they do not go together. Spin a fantasy. Create all the lies and untruths but if you are gay, you are simply delusional to be republican. When push comes to shove, you are out, my friend. And Scalia and Roberts will be there to affirm your demise.
6:01 pm est 

FinCom - Mark Hatch

 

I don't even know where to begin to say how dangerous and non-productive having Mark Hatch as Chair of our Fincom is and will potentially be.
He is used every day by the admin on the crapsheet, the Beacon, his old friend Richard Rogers. Rogers says jump, Hatch says, "how high?". (Incidently, Town Manager, where are the rules of public engagement with Committee members?).
Clarence was smart enough and experienced enough to see trouble ahead, as was Mike Carnizales, Doug Cliggot and any member who actually has the townspeople in mind. I will bet on more resignations!
We can all get used to the fact that our Fincom, which has been a good part of our local government, is now no more than a one-person Donald Trump style oligarchy. What the hell was the appointing authority thinking!? Town Moderator???

5:58 pm est 

Re: HDC - Nor'East Beer Garden

 

My point about the Beer garden was the issue of maintaining the temporary structure for 2 1/2 years and then asking A that it be called permanent. And if they allow it to be permanent does it fall into another category of building codes.

5:55 pm est 

Re: March Hatch

 

Maybe since Hatch couldn't be big sized fish in a big pond he came here to try to be any sized fish in our small pond.  He is very strange.

5:54 pm est 

Monday, November 23, 2015

Re: FinCom -

 

"People like you are the reason Trump hasn't spent a dime on his campaign, and that Rush is a household name."

So, um, is Hatch actually including himself in a category populated by Trump and Rush? Not very complimentary, and oddly dense. And grandiose. Hatch's 'any PR is good PR' defense is said to appear caviler and thick skinned.

Hatch is clearly out of his league. I hope he catches on to this before he does some permanent damage to the Town.  

10:10 pm est 

From: Provincetown Beacon

 

From MYPACC.

Re: FinCom - "I First Met Him...."


 "Oh, boy"

"Oh boy indeed! I'd like to thank everyone that posted and posts here about me because, all I have to say, is the same people would STILL only know me if these blogs and the people posting things about me had only kept silent. Because you didn't, you've actually been the best PR agents ever, and for that, I thank you. People like you are the reason Trump hasn't spent a dime on his campaign, and that Rush is a household name. Negative publicity is still publicity. So thanks for creating for me the momentum to get involved in committee work in town. I couldn't have done it without you. And I look forward to having you keep my profile high in the future."

Mark Hatch

From: Provincetown Beacon

Do we have any psychiatrists in this group who can analyze Hatch's response? He sounds like a sociopath if you ask me.

 

 

8:33 pm est 

Let's Face It
 
Being a Chair is not easy. Some think, when I'm there...all will be great. Often that is not what happens.

Such is the case with a few boards recently. Jeepers, Creepers. They will lead some off the cliff--and fast.
8:05 pm est 

Please Limit Blogs

 

Goodness, sometimes a blog lets one Person In

and they dominate the entire blog. Seems that has happened on one of the blogs. Oh, my goodness. Set a limit to how much one person blog. Please!

8:03 pm est 

Re: HDC - Nor'East Beer Garden

 

"So now,after two years of the Nor'East Beer garden getting permission to construct a temporary roof structure ,which the Historic District Commission allowed, they want the HDC to allow the structure to be permanent. What a surprise! This is how things are gotten away with in Provincetown but not for everyone!"

If I read this right it says that they are asking for an ok.  I think that is the way the system should work.  They ask, the HDC reviews and discusses.  They either say yes or no.  Maybe there should be no HDC and they simply consult you on what to do.

8:00 pm est 

As for the New FinCom


Blah. blah blah.

I already miss the old FinCom. there was action, ideas, and strategic thinking.

Now---blah, blah, blah.
3:23 pm est 

Re: HDC - 350 Bradford Street

 

I Did See  the Demolition Delay on 350 Bradford

It is good to hear what happened here and who worked there. It has a long history and I'm happy that the meeting is going to be continued to December 2nd. this is to hear even more from town people in order to make a decision on delaying the demolition or not.

many were upset about this building. Hope they show up and speak.

Good to have this rule. It gives time for the talk, time for the history, time for the architecture. I like it.

1:00 pm est 

Re: FinCom - "I First Met Him...."

 

"So thanks for creating for me the momentum to get involved in committee work in town. I couldn't have done it without you. And I look forward to having you keep my profile high in the future."

This from someone who wants to be a leader in town.  Self obsessed.  WHy oh why would he actually bother to write about his PR?  In fact the bit about not being able to do it without the PR is silly.  This is not a popularity contest or a presidential campaign.  His being on the FinCom is not about HIM but about getting the job done according to our laws.  He is not their to satisfy his quest for PR and ego salve.  I wonder if he ever reads his own stuff and sees how self serving it is?

When he says that he couldn't do it without us, I wonder what he means by "it"?  And, why does he work so hard at keeping a "high profile"?  Does he serve PT or himself?

12:58 pm est 

HDC - Nor'East Beer Garden

 

So now,after two years of the Nor'East Beer garden getting permission to construct a temporary roof structure ,which the Historic District Commission allowed, they want the HDC to allow the structure to be permanent. What a surprise! This is how things are gotten away with in Provincetown but not for everyone!

10:07 am est 

Re: FinCom - Hatch

I don't know Hatch personally, but from reading his posts on social media, he does seem to bloviate a bit.
9:39 am est 

Re: FinCom - "I First Met Him...."

 
"Oh, boy"

Oh boy indeed! I'd like to thank everyone that posted and posts here about me because, all I have to say, is the same people would STILL only know me if these blogs and the people posting things about me had only kept silent. Because you didn't, you've actually been the best PR agents ever, and for that, I thank you. People like you are the reason Trump hasn't spent a dime on his campaign, and that Rush is a household name. Negative publicity is still publicity. So thanks for creating for me the momentum to get involved in committee work in town. I couldn't have done it without you. And I look forward to having you keep my profile high in the future.

Mark Hatch
9:37 am est 

Re: FinCom

 

"I also Miss Canizales as Chair and Leader of the Finance Committee

He is not easily replaced and surely he is not being replaced. Yikes! Where is this group going?"

Why is it that the FinCom members have no idea of the legal responsibilities of their committee?  Power hungry ego invested meddlers.  Hatch is probably worse that Mike.  But, that would be tough to beat.  I would love to see the FinCom just read the laws regarding their duties and contribute accordingly.  Instead, they act like they can run the town and set all kinds of rules and regulations.  The law does not even allow them to write the budget.  That job belongs to the manager.  They should review it and make recommendations to town meeting.  Stop trying to interfere with others responsibilities. 

9:35 am est 

Re: FinCom - "I First Met Him...."

 

Oh, boy

I first met him when. Now we are recreating a history.

Please, you come here and are known or not known. and then people come to know you by your decisions, actions and ideas.

We will see what happens! but please---no history of who he has been!!

11:23 pm est 

Sunday, November 22, 2015

Re: Mark Hatch - Wrong

It's not that people don't know the name Mark Hatch but what has he done for this town. He has been here but big deal. He was not involved in the essence of this town. and now--good luck! Lack of experience in town politics will doom him. sorry to say, but this town is more complicated than most know. think it simple and you will drown. Call the Coast Guard!
7:34 pm est 

Re: I Hope This Helps
 
Wow. I almost believed this extensive history of the once invisible Mark Hatch until I got to the final sentence. One of Mark's signature statements, hope this helps. Yeah, it helps all right.

Come to think of it, I think he's listed with the Pilgrims first landing...Mark Bradford Hatch. What a buffoon.
7:32 pm est 

Foreign Student Workers

 

STATE DEPARTMENT INVOVLEMENT WITH STUDENT WORK SITUATION

The horrible situation has reached the state department where by students come to town under the auspices of a restaurant or business and then told to wait until it gets busy to start work.

Owner over hire and give students minimum amount of hours. Business owners. They hire them to be a house boy and then have them shingling, painting, doing hard work.

Bar owners have them carrying huge kegs of beer without any dolly. Of course there will be a crack down on business owners..and it about time.

7:31 pm est 

Re: FinCom

 

Boards and Commissions Have their Heyday

and then there is only but a few good things happening. They become turned into themselves or members lack the balls to fight the right fight. Or they are too inexperienced to understand the game.

Seems the Finance Committee had its power, force and strength. Now, well, ---just well.

7:29 pm est 

Re: FinCom

 

I also Miss Canizales as Chair and Leader of the Finance Committee

He is not easily replaced and surely he is not being replaced. Yikes! Where is this group going?

Sad but reality. Good things do not last. the power of the Finance Committee and their concern for voters is reduced to more self-centered interest--like wow--I hold the top position! and, wait, me too,  I hold the second top position!

It was an adult and serious committee. Seems the kids have taken over!

7:27 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Public School Field Trip

 

Give These Kids Grapefruits, Bananas and Pappaya

then call it a Costa Rica trip. And what are they to see and do? Are they--at their young age--going to conduct interviews as if they are on an intellectual field trip? Hardly.

As I said before, give them a crate of grapefruits and call it a Costa Rica trip!

Next year, it'll be a cruise ship and cruise to the Caribbean with seven part calls--all in the name of being an international school with an international curriculum.

I hardly think so.

Give them grapefuits! Let them dissect a few and speak to the natural elements of Costa Rica!

7:25 pm est 

Louisiana Comes to Its Senses
 
It's about this state--of all states--becomes once again Democratic. Bobby Jingal was a self-centered republican always focused on this future which turns out to be nothing much. And Vitter--no restraints, he should be in jail. But at least he won't be in the governor's mansion and the republicans spent millions and millions to get that questionable sex-driven politician elected. Yes, a t rue family man!
7:24 pm est 

Re: FinCom

 
"The only reason Hatch is Fincom chair is because he's the last man standing. Amazing no one heard about him until a few years ago..."


Here we go again on this blog...I first met Hatch in 1989 in town. That's right, 1989. He used to come here during the summer all the time except for the years when he was on the skydiving team when he was here less frequently (I met him because he was wearing a Tshirt that said "Don't forget to Pull". I thought it was really funny. I was 32 at the time. He didn't hang out with "townies"and why would he? We know the history of the summer people and the locals interacting. Do the people that post know all the summer weekend regulars here? I doubt it. When he retired from skydiving he bought a place here...like 10 years ago. If you didn't know him, why do you think you should have? Do you know everyone in town that lives here? The summer folks? Where was most of the BOS in 1989? Most of the committee members? Had they ever been here then, or even been born? Does it matter? Or are we back to the old "you don't belong" crap with asking people how long they've lived here or quest!
ioning where they live again? So I happen to know him and know how long and when he was coming here. He, like me, bought in town. I know he also only got involved in politics when the Jaran thing happened because some people said that he should either be part of the solution or shut up. There are a lot of people who should do the same, quite frankly. So there's your REAL history from someone that knows him. I hope this helps.
12:57 pm est 

Saturday, November 21, 2015

Re: FinCom

 

Mike Canizales was a great chair of FinCom

He was direct, intelligent, and strategic. He was adult. He also did not laugh constantly and giggle like the new one does. It is not the same board without his leadership.

10:33 pm est 

Re: FinCom

 

Unfortunately this Finance Committee is the legacy of the Town Moderator.  I just looked at the roster of the people now on the FinCom.  I'm sure they are fine people, but their lack of town financial experience is startling.  This is what happens when the moderator plays games with FinCom appointments.

You have a BOS that has accomplished nothing in the past two years and the weakest FinCom this town has seen in years.  The future does not look promising.

Be careful watch you wish for.

8:30 pm est 

Re: FinCom

 

The only reason Hatch is Fincom chair is because he's the last man standing. Amazing no one heard about him until a few years ago, although like Forrest Gump, he's inserted himself in every historical event in Provincetown since the 1940s. Hatch spreads his revisionist history, assuming and posturing until someone who was REALLY THERE calls him out. What a buffoon.

11:41 am est 

Bring Maxine Back

that makes sense. they do not know what is going on or should go on. Yet arrogance determines what they do. Please, help them. they do need help and they need experience and knowledge--two criteria they sadly fail to have.
9:18 am est 

Provincetown Public School Field Trip

 

All these benefits to raise money to send kids to Costa Rica would be better served by raising money to cover the astronomical costs to maintain the school building. Do we as taxpayers need to see this continued nonsense about this field trip, then have to be asked again and again for millions of dollars for a 100 kids. Focus yoru energy on paying for the the school and not this idiotic field trip.

9:15 am est 

Provincetown Public Library

Another lovely holdover from the Sharon Lynn days:


Friends and Supporters of the Library are neither is a truism.

It is just a vehicle to employ their friends under the guise of a "charity" and after they pay the inflated expenses they give the tiny profit to the library. if they do at all.

It is self serving, legal and a total sham, don't support it!

What a world
9:14 am est 

Re: Zoning Board of Appeal-Peter Page?

 

"seems involve with some hidden agenda when I see him on zoning on ptv. who is he trying to get contracts from"

Why do assume that he is trying to get contracts from anyone associated with his civic duty?  Character assassination seems to be the norm here.  No evidence needed.

9:01 am est 

FinCom

 

Dear God, we are in big trouble!

The Fincom committee has elected Mark Hatch and Louise Venden as Chair and co-chair, respectively. Two of the biggest bags of hot air in Provincetown!

Mike and Doug are gone.

This has to be the worse Fincom I have seen in Provincetown for many a year. Clarence should have been made Chairman, he has the background, time in service, and the temperament.

Be ready for the embarrassment of seeing what happens when these two clowns are in action.

We should now have doubts about how competent the appointing authority is.

8:59 am est 

Re: Really? Modified Salmon is Safe

 

"Just don't think this is what I want on my dinner plate. Let the modifiers modify but give me natural salmon. Half fake, half safe does not equal safe and tasty. No, thanks."

And. I'm sure that you don't believe in evolution.  Tell us why you say "Half safe".  Evidence? 

8:57 am est 

Friday, November 20, 2015

Zoning Board of Appeal-Peter Page?

 

Where is Peter Page coming from? what is his gig?

seems involve with some hidden agenda when I see him on zoning on ptv. who is he trying to get contracts from?Something's questionable. Zoning has become a rather odd group. I remember when it was premier and all were bright, knowledgeable and experienced. None of these have any of these qualities. It's a sad board, sadly.

1:17 pm est 

Really? Modified Salmon is Safe

I just don't think this is what I want on my dinner plate. Let the modifiers modify but give me natural salmon. Half fake, half safe does not equal safe and tasty. No, thanks.
1:14 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

 

No. NO. I'm tired of the Re: Affordable Housing Tag

Please another one. Maybe Issues or Provincetown concerns or New Ideas.

No more re: affordable Housing---I don't even want to read it. Intrigue me, instead.

1:13 pm est 

Re: Permit Department

I agree.. I sure do miss Maxine's knowledge.  She always knew what was right and wrong and knew exactly what was going on..  It took 3 people to replace her.  Even at that, all three put together do not have the knowledge and input she could provide..  Bring her back!She could work through any obstacle with honesty....  What's going on today with the demolitions in town is shameful...
1:10 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

It's time to start housing in other towns oh wait they won't allow it....  That's what Provincetown needs to start doing.. Say "NO" there is enough.....
1:08 pm est 

Thursday, November 19, 2015

Re: Affordable Housing

 

Could we have a new tag--forget affordable housing and make it more creative

the posting are getting dull on affordable housing so make the tags more lively. thanks.

5:38 pm est 

Re: Community Development Department
 
A great and reasonable suggestion. combine Assistant Town manager--since we have a town manager full time--with town planner and then have a permit coordinator as good as Maxine Notara was and as knowledgeable and as present--we have a mirage as a permit coordinator. then as you  mention bring in part-time inspectors to do enforcement and check on whether work permits fit what is agreed to at various boards.
5:37 pm est 

Re: Permitting

It was Sharon that had permitting under control it was the previous employees that knew how to do their jobs especially the Notaro woman who knew the bylaws and the town well.
3:16 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

 

After reading so many comments that use the term "subsidized" housing with a derogatory tone, I thought it may be time to inform folks that the home mortgage interest deduction is the one of biggest tax subsidies.  If you take a tax deduction for your home mortgage interprets, you live in "subsidized" housing. 

1:40 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Landing Tenants Voice Concerns
 
"So if that's the case, how about this way. Tell anyone looking to live in any subsidized housing, housing not owned privately but by the town or funded by the town/taxpayers, agree in their lease or rental agreement to drug testing conducted by an official outside medical testing company that will randomly appear for testing on random tenants for them to qualify for their housing. "

You make real working people PUKE.  You're not a "true American"; you're nothing but vengeful, greed-riddled little Nazis.  Remember, brats, "what goes around comes around", and the more you step and spit on other people, the worse your life will be when karma bites you.
12:48 pm est 

Too Many Cooks in the Kitchen

 

I Agree

We don't need another committee and this time one for the Long-Term Comprehensive Plan? that is why a town planner was hired and didn't they find some way to get a consultant and pay that person $17,000? Now a committee to work with those who should be working on the plan. This is nuts!

12:39 pm est 

Provincetown Public Library

 

Friends and Supporters of the Library are neither!

12:22 pm est 

Re: Community Development Department

Do we really need an Assistant Town Manager that is a planner, and a Towm Planner and a Coordinator (when there)? Maybe what we should do is have an Assistant Town Manager/Planner and a Coordinator (who is present) and then hire a couple of part-time Inspectors to make sure the contractors are building to historic and zoning approvals.
12:20 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

 

 John Ryan duped Us al and Fooled Us All

His number were voodoo at best. He was paid to advocate and so he did. but as to truth and relevance---that is another story!

12:16 pm est 

Re: Teardowns

I would love to know if these teardowns on Conant and Bradford are being required to follow hurricane guide lines since they are new builds and not renovations. These new hurricane windows can cost two to four times that of a typical window.  Are these developers being required to put them in?
12:14 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing and Ted Malone

 

"Look at what Ted Malone gave the town--almost nothing. He made profit upon profit,"

I'm not a Ted fan but I wonder about your "profit" comment.  Exactly what was his investment and what was his profit?  Does he run a non-profit organization? I was told once that profit is not a four letter word.  Ask the bank.  Ask any business in town.  

12:13 pm est 

Problems Downstairs

 

The lack of monitoring and licensing also falls short when it comes to remodeling. Hurricane standards and windows are regularly ignored. But this will catch up with people if they file an insurance claim.

12:11 pm est 

Permitting

 

When Sharon ran the town, at least the permitting was under control. David, get on the stick before more buildings get torn down!

12:09 pm est 

Wednesday, November 18, 2015

Re: Affordable Housing

 

Let's Get the Affordable Housing Right

It has been a problem for years. Look at what Ted Malone gave the town--almost nothing. He made profit upon profit, received federal and state grants and we have properties for his staff--the lucky ones s elected in the lottery--who then sold at market rate their once affordable housing. And the game goes on and on till the next round.

Now we have Stable path--or whatever he names the old Nelson Stables--and you can expect profit upon profit and a few affordables that soon disappear and will be selected--ah, yes, the "lucky" ones again--by Ted Malone who is paid to run the "lottery." He is better than any Chinese betting the casino--that is because he owns the casino!!!

1:23 pm est 

Committees

 

And why yet another committee?

1:21 pm est 

Local Comprehensive Planning Committee

 

Who is on Local Comprehensive Planning Committee?

1:20 pm est 

Resumes

 

When does a town manager request a resume for members joining  a volunteer dept.

1:19 pm est 

Permits

There are so many places in town being demolished and built without the proper permits.  Even when there is a permit, there is no one following up on the progress.  Who is in charge of checking?  It appears that there is nobody.  It's the small projects that are followed up on.  Really.. It's time for a good inspector who can follow through or perhaps permits it's a waste of time to even get one?  It seems as though the building department is falling apart.  All the employees who knew what was going on and cared are gone....
1:18 pm est 

Housing

There is more than enough. It's time to STOP....  Where else do you see all the housing like here.  Enough is enough..... 
1:16 pm est 

Tuesday, November 17, 2015

Re: Affordable Housing

 

"most are slogging thru the winter just like you, trying to make ends meet"

OK, agreed, perhaps MOST are just living their lives, following the rules and trying to get by. However, you can't ignore what has become common knowledge around town or dismiss it as "rumors." There are a number of people living there selling illegal substances. There are a number of people who winter in New Orleans, etc. and rent their units out while they're gone. Many of them work under the table and only report a fraction of their income. You can pretend these things aren't factual, but they are. If you would take off your rose colored glasses for just a moment and stop worrying that someone may think you're something other than a liberal, you will see that there are rule breakers and, in some cases, law breakers taking advantage of the system. These aren't unwed mothers in need of assistance, these are cheaters and drug dealers. You aren't helping our town by trying to protect them, you're just enabling them to continue breaking the rules and laws.

12:41 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

 

AFFORDABLE HOUSING DUPES TAXPAYERS

There is an article in the Banner that puts the spot light on the fact that there is no oversight into who gets into this taxpayer subsidized units.

The taxpayers were assured that any one who applied to be housed in one of these units was going to go through an exhaustive, intensive interview and their assets reviewed.

What a slap dash situation occurs there and FINALLY some residents just couldn't take the drugs, the hypocrisy, the illegal sub-letting and all of the other ills that permeate this 6o unit housing complex

It is only 60 units..not 600. How this can be allowed to happen shows that no  one can NOW  believe John Ryans ditum that we need 250 housing units.

Taxpayers, wake up. Don't be fooled anymore. What a fiasco..and how many of these housing developments are there in town? How many are duping the system?

Don't chastise the voters who are fed up with this illegal activity. It is the residents who are trapped there because they can't afford anything else who are  making this cry for help.

It is their plea that is catching our attention. How sad that they had to have an article in the newspaper before the powers that govern that place root our the law breakers.

12:37 am est 

Affordable Housing

 

The real silent majority who are losing the battle to obtain affordable housing are the people who have year round jobs or 9+ month jobs in tourism and contribute to the continuity and economics of our year round services and economy.

They are the true endangered species in Provincetown who are forgotten in the affordable housing discussion.

Their voices aren't heard or seriously considered.

Who are these individuals?

They are our police, fire and rescue; Seashore Point and Outer Cape; bank tellers; oil and propane service men; dedicated servers in year round restaurants; shop keepers; DPW workers; town hall employees, town manager and the list goes on .........................

They aren't accounted for on any list or John Ryan's report because they exceed the income limits for low income housing but they are one step away from eviction and extinction in the community.

What will happen when they lose their apartment and can't find another affordable apartment in town and be forced to leave town and can't afford the 3 hour drive and gas, particularly during summer traffic, to live in Brewster in an illegal apartment?

Provincetown will pay for this lack of planning through higher wages and salaries to recruit these employees, or difficulty in recruiting top notch employees, if we don't start planning now.

Why not retain them in Provincetown through affordable housing? They know the community and contribute back to the year round economy in town. Do we want them working in Provincetown, living in the upper Cape and contributing to other towns' year round economies when they could be happily living and working here to sustain the year round community?

Where are the Board of Selectmen, Community Housing Council, Local Comprehensive Planning Committee, 365 on this income level of housing, the linchpin to year round and economic development, that nobody wants to talk?

Is it because there is no federal/state funding mechanism available for this income level and therefore no solutions?

Provincetown has always been a leader in finding new ways.

Let's put our best minds together on how to solve this issue.

We must redirect all our attention and resources and money from the "The Waiting List" of 300 which will always be replenished with another list of 300.

Most of the affordable housing developed to date has been in the low income level.

Let's face it folks, there is a finite amount of land and water available in Provincetown.

Somebody has to begin the discussion of making the tough decisions.

What are going to be our priorities in affordable housing development in Provincetown for the remaining land and water to ensure the core and essence of a year round community?

My sense is that we require immediate action to purchase
all large remaining parcels in town (before the land grab of Coastal Acres Campground and 350 Bradford--same developers and other developers forecloses all possibilities for private development).

WE NEED TO CREATE AN AFFORDABLE LAND BANK FOR YEAR ROUND EMPLOYEE HOUSING BEFORE THERE IS NO LAND TO BUY. 

This action should be taken at 2016 Annual Meeting with the deed restriction that unless the land is developed for this purpose, including VFW site and Community Center, it will be resold with profits accruing to the town.

In the meantime, current year round renters should have the protection, through regulation, of occupancy in their current units without exorbitant rent increases until such affordable units are developed for their occupancy.

11:54 pm est 

Monday, November 16, 2015

Back to Sharon Lynn

 

Provincetown Landing Should Have Been Small Units

not this mega inappropriate large building structure. this is not Provincetown and yet here and SeaShore Point we find structures that do not fit our history. Small scale, neighborhood friendly and cottage structures would have made more sense--but profit overrides and we are at fault to allow this to happen.

Sharon Lynn brought us Province Landing and the chemicals and questionable cancer-produce substances lodged in the ground will come to haunt the town.

PLease do not plant vegetables and if you do, please do not eat them or serve them to us!

7:04 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Landing Tenants Voice Concerns
 
We're breaking down the structure of the words within the sentences we use in this forum? Really?

So if that's the case, how about this way. Tell anyone looking to live in any subsidized housing, housing not owned privately but by the town or funded by the town/taxpayers, agree in their lease or rental agreement to drug testing conducted by an official outside medical testing company that will randomly appear for testing on random tenants for them to qualify for their housing.

Oh, that's right, by your indirect claim, they're poor so they do drugs and to make them take a drug test would be picking on the poor.

You are an enabler. Turning a blind eye and continuing to allow this mayhem to occur flies in the face of what this housing is all about. Its not supposed to be a ghetto or a slum. It's not designed to be a dead end. It's supposed to be a stepping stone for those that need somewhere to get their feet under them and then on their way to bigger and better lives.
7:02 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Landing Tenants Voice Concerns

 

Welcome to off season in Provincetown! Sure as the masses have drained off this spit, comes the attacks on affordable housing and those that live in the units. Residents are invited to create any fantastical tale that can be imagined, unchecked. Tenants basking in the tropical sun, swilling martini's in LA, meditating with a Devi in the Himalaya, smoking great weed in Oregon, texting unemployment with one finger. When most are slogging thru the winter just like you, trying to make ends meet after a trip to Stop and Shop, taking a walk in Beech Forest and just trying to be.

7:00 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Landing Tenants Voice Concerns

 

"I have to be tested to hold my job, why do they get to lay about and not be tested?"

Because you agreed to be tested in order to get and keep the job.  They did not get asked nor agree to getting tested.  Pretty simple really.

4:11 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Landing Tenants Voice Concerns

 

TAXPAYER FUNDED TIME OFF

The situation is that the taxpayers now see that there is no real oversight into the selection process regarding the people eligible for taxpayer funded affordable housing.

Almost anyone who keeps a low profile can slip under the radar by working one menial job and then free lancing doing any kind of tradesman work from house painting to plumbing or handyman job or computer work and be paid under the table.

If you don't believe me, go to craigslist and see all of the people with ads to do work--it mostly under the table work.

So, you have a seasonal job and then you do your other under the table work. You get an apartment, you collect unemployment in the winter, you sublet your cheap rental apt for the winter to someone who wants to stay here and then you go to South America or some other place and live there cheaply and via computer sign up for your unemployment each Sunday.

When are the taxpayers going to wake up and realize that people are scamming the system? Of course they aren't all doing this, but the hue and cry about 250 people needing affordable units means that not even one scammer should be allowed to take the place of a legitimate renter in need.

Only the renters are going to be voting for these housing articles at town meeting unless something is done to get rid of the corruption--and now there is the rumor that a town official can get housing for favored people.

The affordable housing fatigue is real and spreading fast in this town and the housing people are getting a well deserved black eye and are deserving of being pulled down a peg. Tell 365 Provincetown to do some investigating before crying at town meeting that the taxpayers are heartless and cruel.

12:04 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Landing Tenants Voice Concerns

 

"Here's an idea! Lets drug test every person that lives at Pilgrim Landing, at least the ones that are subsidized in any way by the taxpayers.:"

"lets" is contraction of let us.  SO tell us who do you mean by that?  I have the feeling that you have no respect for laws or the constitution. 

Now, don't get me wrong but I too hate to see druggies messing up our town, but that means ALL druggies not just some.

12:01 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Landing Tenants Voice Concerns

 

AFFORDABLE HOUSING FATIGUE

This affordable housing where people work part time and have the rest of the year off to do as they wish and be subsidized has finally shown that it is a failed system for this town.

I really dare the selectmen to once again try to foist even more housing at the cost to taxpayers upon us or penalize taxpaying homeowners of multi family homes at the next town meeting.

Affordable housing fatigue is settling over this town and the crying lamentations of the seasonal workers who want to be subsidized is falling on deaf ears.

Affordable housing fatigue is the new sydrom enveloping the town and all of the housing advocates are to blame for this because they set up the housing--but there is no real checking of finances and or references.

PROVINCETOWN 365: PUT THIS ON THE WARRANT FOR THE NEXT TOWN MEETING INSTEAD OF ASKING FOR TAXPAYER MONEY FOR MORE HOUSING: From now on EVERY person in this housing AND any person who is getting into this housing built with taxpayer money should have their name printed in the paper and the person who interviews them should start with checking to see if they have a narcotics record.

11:59 am est 

Re: Provincetown Landing Tenants Voice Concerns

 

"Here's an even better idea!!! Lets see you admit you're a bigoted, "blame the poor"               and you shut up and go away?"

Here's another idea: Let's not try to make this about blaming the "poor" (we all know that many of the people living there qualify for their affordable units because their income is under the table and not reported to the government) and hey, while we're at it, lets cut the "shut up and go away" whenever someone points out an injustice! Sorry about rocking the boat, but some of these people have been riding the affordable housing gravy train long enough while others are struggling.

11:57 am est 

Re: Something's Amiss in the Basement of Town Hall

 

"Hopefully, Annie the new acting Building Commissioner will take control of the Community Development department and begin to apply the rule of law to  the issuance of permits, notifications and violations."

and

"I think the 'emergency' is the mess below, a place filled with confusion, misdirections, and a lack of experience for everyone except Annie Howard."

Who's kidding who? Hasn't anyone figured out yet that Ms. Howard isn't the solution, but is instead the problem?!?  When a contractor is in charge of enforcement against contractors, especially those in their own town in which everyone knows everyone, is it any wonder when her good friend and general contractor KM is allowed to tear down building after building?  C'mon, wake up to the fox who's guarding your henhouse!

11:51 am est 

Re: Provincetown Landing Tenants Voice Concerns

Bigoted? I'm a bigot because I don't want drug use in a publically funded housing development that my taxes pay for? I have to be tested to hold my job, why do they get to lay about and not be tested? Seems backwards, no? Rich or poor, it's really ignorant to claim you want to be able to break the law (drug use) and then claim a need for assistance.
11:49 am est 

Re: Provincetown Landing Tenants Voice Concerns

 

"Here's an idea! Lets drug test every person that lives at Pilgrim Landing, at least the ones that are subsidized in any way by the taxpayers. I am in an industry that makes me take random drug tests so if I have to in order to keep my job which pays the taxes that support the folks at Pilgrim Landing, shouldn't they be required to be clean too?"

Here's an even better idea!!! Lets see you admit you're a bigoted, "blame the poor"               and you shut up and go away?

11:58 pm est 

Sunday, November 15, 2015

Re: Provincetown Landing Tenants Voice Concerns

Here's an idea! Lets drug test every person that lives at Pilgrim Landing, at least the ones that are subsidized in any way by the taxpayers. I am in an industry that makes me take random drug tests so if I have to in order to keep my job which pays the taxes that support the folks at Pilgrim Landing, shouldn't they be required to be clean too?
6:58 pm est 

Re: Something's Amiss in the Basement of Town Hall

 

Can someone Explain the Demolition at Johnson & Commercial?

Was there a permit? Or are contractors doing what they want without consequence of fines or stop work orders?

does anyone know?

6:55 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Landing Tenants Voice Concerns

 

OTHER PLACES BESIDES PILGRIM LANDING

"..The taxpayers don't expect scammers who sublet and who have subsidized housing to be given carte blanch to just go off to Hawaii and the Far East pay a cheap rent and sublet their place while they collect unemployment and live like an oriental potentate at the taxpayer's expense."


Lay the blame for this where it belongs.  It's a failure of the agency managing the property -- FINE them till they fix problems (including listening to tenant complaints about cheats and evicting the CHEATS)!  It's also a failure of the police -- forced them to do surveillance, arrest dealers and bar them from returning units which are technically crime scenes!!!

10:41 am est 

Re: New Post Office Fence

 

If there is a New Fence At the Post Office

it is illegal. Fences must come in front of the Historic district and this surely did not.
How much non-enforcement can this town take?

USPS hold long term-leasses with special provisions for mail facilities, which are classified as federal buildings.  It's just like the Coast Guard station in that respect, and as such follows federal regulations.  Federal laws trump small-town historic commissions.  It's likely a "security upgrade", so suck it up.

10:22 am est 

Re: Town Planner

 

Who is reviewing the performance of the Town Planner. She needs guidance and instruction. On her own, she is a disaster negatively infecting everything she touches. Her negativity is having a very deleterious effect on the total performance of Community Development.

She was totally unable to work with the previous Building Commissioner and will probably get in the way of the new acting Building Commissioner.

However,I put my bet on Annie Howard! 

10:20 am est 

Something's Amiss in the Basement of Town Hall

I haven't seen the Permit Coordinator since the end of august. If he is there, he is incognito. And as for whom is issuing demolitions permits, that remains a good but unanswered question. One after another, a building gets torn down or there is an "emergency" demolition or the building just fell apart! it's a mess in the basement and someone needs to clear it up. and they better act fast before another building or cottage or old important structure is gone. I think the "emergency" is the mess below, a place filled with confusion, misdirections, and a lack of experience for everyone except Annie Howard.
10:12 am est 

Re: Provincetown Landing Tenants Voice Concerns

 

OTHER PLACES BESIDES PILGRIM LANDING

Of course there are other places in town where drugs are being dealt. However The Taxpayers spent a million dollars on the land and gave it to the developers to created affordable housing.

The taxpayers don't expect scammers who sublet and who have subsidized housing to be given carte blanch to just go off to Hawaii and the Far East pay a cheap rent and sublet their place while they collect unemployment and live like an oriental potentate at the taxpayer's expense.

Taxpayers, who work hard, don't expect this housing development to have free Wheeling drug sales to the point that ordinary citizens can't help but see what is going on.

Taxpayers don't expect to hear complaints that a fence is too high thus keeping children out of sight WHEN THE PARENTS SHOULD BE WATCHING THEIR OWN CHILDREN.

SHAME SHAME SHAME. I'm never voting for housing paid by town meeting via taxpayers again.
 

10:10 am est 

Re: Two Town Planners + Consultant

 

Assistant Towm Nanager, Town Planner, Permit Coordinator

So now us taxpayers are paying for two planners Mr. Grander and Ms. McPherson and a coordinator who is only working part time and still no professional results. Sounds to me that our newly appointed TM should be looking into things. Is this coordinator getting a part time salary. I sure hope so. I don't want to pay for a full time position for part time work on my tax-dollar and I don't want to fund two planners either!

9:57 am est 

New Post Office Fence

 

If there is a New Fence At the Post Office

it is illegal. Fences must come in front of the Historic district and this surely did not.
How much non-enforcement can this town take?

11:09 pm est 

Saturday, November 14, 2015

Two Town Planners + Consultant

 

It is my opinion  that the primary source of the problems in Community Development is the Town Planner, who has played a very disruptive role from the day she arrived in Provincetown. It all started when she along with Sharon Lynn and David Gardner worked to  remove Maxine Nataro from the position of Permit Coordinator.

The quality if Maxine's work speaks  legends. There is no town business that the present Town Planner has not injected herself. We are now told that the Town planner and David Gardner are working together on the Local Comprehensive Plan.

So now we have two Town  Planners working on an LCP plan along with a consultant who is receiving $17,000 to produce a document for which her job description says she would provide. WTF!

It's two years  two months and counting that the Town Planner has had to at least produce a draft LCP document. Enough said get rid of  her. We don't need two Town Planners  

9:48 pm est 

Re: Humane Priorities

It was very sad to hear of the most recent tragedy in Paris. Does this mean some people here can just do what the hell they want and not have to follow laws and bylaws.
9:14 pm est 

Community Development is Disorganized

 

Another Hole Where there Once Was--Like Yesterday--a Building

What is happening to our town? How did another building get destroyed there at Commercial and Johnson Street? Who allowed this?  Two days ago it was the building behind House of Pizza, then days back the Map building and even now, it is weird. I am afraid to ask what's next?

Is there no enforcement? Who is permitting the destruction of our town?

9:13 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Landing Tenants Voice Concerns

 

Thing is, Provincetown Landing is hardly the only place in town where drugs are dealt. Wake up.

9:11 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Landing Tenants Voice Concerns

 

So if there is drug use, drug dealing and prostitution happening at Province Landing, why isn't anybody doing anything about it? Why aren't the police looking into it? And don't tell me to mind my own business, I own a home and am raising kids in this town!

9:09 pm est 

Community Development is Disorganized

 

Hopefully, Annie the new acting Building Commissioner will take control of the Community  Development department and begin to apply the rule of law to  the issuance of permits, notifications and violations. The recently departed Commissioner was a disaster and David Gardner did not seem  involved.

It seems that the Zoning  Board of Appeals is acting outside of it's purview  and that they are responsible for some to the recent demolitions.

Take a look at the November 5th Zoning meeting, especially the Sal's Restaurant hearing. Zoning member Peter Paige was allover the place. He was making Historic building determinations, which is HDC's responsibility. He raised the issue of past public disturbances, which is the responsibility of Licensing and wanted a sprinkler system  installed, ignoring the fact that there were only 88 seats ( 99 being the trigger required for fire spriklers) and that the property was  grandfathered. he also wanted the staircase to be replaced to the  current code. he also publicly stated that this was an opportunity to  force "to-code" renovations, in spite of  the fact that the building in question was being sold  as  is with no modifications. This last point had been previously agreed  to by the  seller, buyer. and the Zoning Board.

It appeared that he was hell bent on  obstructing the Sal's Restaurant transfer.

I have never witnessed a more unfriendly attitude towards business. What gives? 

9:07 pm est 

Where is the Permit Coordinator?

 

Are we paying for a full-time Permit Coordinator, while he is attending classes during working hours?

Who approved this? Who does he report to?

I have not seen him at many of the various board meetings. 

Something is wrong with the Community Development Department. Who heads that department? There is no leadership.

7:42 pm est 

Humane Priorities

 

So nice to see you all have such humane priorities...yesterday between 127-158 people were brutally slaughtered in the city of Paris, and you're all pissing and moaning about real estate and YOUR taxes....

Pitiful examples of "humanity", every one of you...learn some f*****g gratitude.

5:46 pm est 

So Another Building Goes Down

what the hell is going on  here? Across from Pepe's there is no more what was there before.

This is becoming Provincetown's sick legacy--please tell me who in the right--unpaid, money-in-their-back-pocket mind--has agreed to this demolition?

Can we ask the Building Development--more like Building Destroying department--who gave permission for this demolition?

Now, every day, another property is demolished. Is this really what we wanted and what our boards are ok ing?

Something's not right here. Can someone please explain this demolition of all our prized buildings? Someone must have an answer.
5:31 pm est 

Commercial and Johnson Street

 

COMMERCIAL AND JOHNSON STREET. DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT IS GOING THERE?? GREAT SPOT FOR A BEER & WINE STORE????

12:47 pm est 

Substance Abruse Conference

Why is it being held at the church? It should be held in the club house at Province Landing. People only have to go a few steps to be there--and dealers might find some new customers.
12:45 pm est 

Re: LCP Committee
 
Folks, educate yourselves. The Local Comprehensive Plan process is regulated by the Cape Cod Commission and requires a committee be formed by the Board of Selectmen and the participation of town boards in the process. It's not a document written single-handedly by one person.

To quote the CCC,
"D. Local Planning Committee (LPC) Authority
The LPC shall be designated by the Board of Selectmen/Town Council and has primary responsibility for development of a towns LCP. The LPC may be either the Planning Board or a specially designated committee. All local town boards should be fully involved in the planning process through the LPC."


You can read all the details of the CCC regs here:
http://www.capecodcommission.org/resources/regulatory/Ord14-06_LCPRegs_amend11-20-14.pdf

The selectmen didn't get around to appointing a committee until this summer.
12:43 pm est 

48 A Bradford Street

If they went to zoning for a change, extension or alteration under 3110 and building scale 2640 and they demolished the building then how come they didn't have to do 3115 to demolish and rebuild. I had to for my property.
12:39 pm est 

Re: 48A Building Permit and Publication of All Building Permits

I remember when the permits were published in the newspaper. I haven't seen them in the paper for a long time. I mentioned it to a friend who said the general bylaw under building regulations required they be published but maybe that bylaw was changed. So I looked it up and it is a general bylaw requirement. Does anyone know why they are not published?
12:35 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Landing Tenants Voice Concerns
 
Sadly, this is what people predicted would happen at Province Landing when the taxpayers were asked to pay up for this housing development.

Before you paint all struggling year-rounders here, keep in mind there are MORE than a few of us who just want to work to make ends meet, have a roof over their heads, raise kids or tend pets and be left in peace, and more than a few wanted in but didn't get a place because one of those 'problem children" knew somebody or scammed their way in. And none of US are taking winters off in Hawaii!!!
12:33 pm est 

Re: 48 A Bradford Street is a Legal Mess
 
Ah, Oh, another Hole where Once there was  house

seems like the new agenda. Do what the hell you want and call it restoration or changes or elevation. But it is all bull my friends and contractors know this.

Want this building demolish, then just call.

They know. There is no enforcement. So pretend that you care about the historic house and then do what the hell you want.

"tis the season.  for greed!


This is not the way all developers do business. There are developers who follow proper protocol.  Cannot something be done at this point? Question? is the same realtor involved in both properties in question?
12:31 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Landing Tenants Voice Concerns

Really? Where is the management there? I KNOW of 3 people who don't live there in the winter (that's at LEAST 3), there was someone flying all over the country working in the sex industry living there, and I know of at least one apartment RIGHT NOW where there are illegal roommates paying the rent, and 3 more that use AirBnB to rent out a bedroom. And you wonder why people are now over the entire "affordable housing" issue? Because it's a scam, and it's completely unsupervised. This is ALL at the landing. So where is the oversight? If I know this, and other people do too, why doesn't the people in charge of the place know it? Or are these people just being covered up for because they're connected. Hmmmmmm.......
12:29 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Landing Tenants Voice Concerns

 

"The drugs..what a surprise! Why, who would have thought that people who were able to pay market rate rents until they went to Province Landing were able to qualify because while they had a low paying job on the books. Their EXTRACURRICULAR drug selling job brought in gobs of money that they were able to hide."

It's become a bit of an open joke here in town. There are numerous people living there who retreat to warmer climates in the winter to live the high life and yes, they continue to qualify for their low income units on paper, because their huge incomes come from sales that are, shall we say, "off the books." There was even a porn star living there until recently. It's actually sad, because there are people in town who could really benefit from affordable units such as these, but it seems like they've all gone to scammers and con artists who are working the system.

12:27 pm est 

Friday, November 13, 2015

Re: 48 A Bradford Street is a Legal Mess

 

Ah, Oh, another Hole where Once there was  house

seems like the new agenda. Do what the hell you want and call it restoration or changes or elevation. But it is all bull my friends and contractors know this.

Want this building demolish, then just call.

They know. There is no enforcement. So pretend that you care about the historic house and then do what the hell you want.

"tis the season.  for greed!

8:26 pm est 

Provincetown Landing Tenants Voice Concerns

Sadly, this is what people predicted would happen at Province Landing when the taxpayers were asked to pay up for this housing development.

People pay a subsidized rent, collect unemployment and go off to Hawaii or southeast Asia or South America and have their housing secured here while collecting unemployment and living the good live.

The drugs..what a surprise! Why, who would have thought that people who were able to pay market rate rents until they went to Province Landing were able to qualify because while they had a low paying job on the books. Their EXTRACURRICULAR drug selling job brought in gobs of money that they were able to hide.

And what better thing to do that to live where your clients live.

The taxpayers are duped. The sad faced, sadly written articles about the downtrodden pulled at the heart strings and town voted in these subsidized housing areas and they are full of deceit and criminal activity.

And people with children are living there..what a sad, sad, turn of events for the town.

The housing group should hangs its head in shame--but instead make issues like Hoarding front page news. What you need is an undercover writer to pull open the curtain and expose all of this to the town taxpayers.

Where are the housing specialists now? Where is the management oversight now? Mr. Wise is smart to get away from affordable housing and go to Market rate and save his project from becoming another festering Province Landing.
8:24 pm est 

Re: 48 A Bradford Street is a Legal Mess

 

The developer of 48A with that tear down is the same person who tore down 26 Conant 6 or so months ago. Sounds like that's the start to a pattern or she just doesn't know how to find a house in good condition.

8:20 pm est 

Re: 42 A Bradford Street is a Legal Mess

 

How could Zoning allow Three units at 42 or 48 A Bradford

when the basement apartment was illegal meaning that it had only two legal units. How does two become three? also there were no abutters notices when the demolition was allowed by Historic district at a on-site meeting. There is hardly any enforcement of our by-laws. that is crucial as well as the inexperience by soo  many at Community Development. they are handing out wrong advice.

12:41 pm est 

Re: Oh Brother--International Baccalaureat on the Cape??

 

Last year when the state released student test score data, Provincetown School was doing better and the IB Program was working. On Tuesday, the Department of Education released this year's report.

Unfortunately, Provincetown fell backwards and now under performs 60% of Mass schools and Provincetown is significantly worse than Truro. In every category it does not meet improvement targets established for districts previously marked as under-performing minimum education  standards

Sadly for the taxpayer, it is still the most expensive school district per student and per resident in Massachusetts. And yes, more expensive than equally small Truro.

12:39 pm est 

I Can't find Provincetown Listed as an IB

So where should I look? Are there different lists on which school is an Internaltional Baccaulauriat and which are not? I'm confused. Can someone make sense of this for me?
12:37 pm est 

42 A Bradford Had an Illegal Basement Apartment

So how can they have three units to become three condominiums when one of these units was illegal. Health Department should have weighed in first, then it should have gone to Historic District and then to Zoning---but the illegal basement apartment cannot now be a legal unit that allows three condominiums at that property that is now one big, fat hole.
12:36 pm est 

Re: LCP Committee

 

You Don't Need an LCP committee when You Have a town Planner

that is her job. Create, study and write the LCP. We do not need a committee but she only has to do what she was hired to do. It's a simple as that.

12:34 pm est 

Re: 48A Bradford Street

Possible conflict, where and with who. The players are....? Tell us.
12:33 pm est 

Re: Provincetown School Trip

 

I guess no matter how many times it is said you don't understand KIDS FUNDRAISE and PAY for COSTA RiCA. Same with adults going. Got that?

12:30 pm est 

Thursday, November 12, 2015

Re: 42 A Bradford Street is a Legal Mess

 

48A Bradford, below is the verbatim text from the ZBA Special Permit case. Notice of this ZBA decision can be found on the Barnstable Registry of Deeds site at Book 29195 Page 5:

"The applicant petitioned the board for a Special Permit under Article 3, Section 3110, Nonconformancy: Change, Extensions or Alternations, and Article 2, Section 2640, Building Scale, of the Provincetown Zoning Bylaws.

The applicant is seeking permission to construct an addition after redesign of an existing three (3) family dwelling, which will provide legal egress to all units and elevate the basement apartment to grade."


By the way, there were 11 letters in favor and none opposed. No one appeared (in person) in favor or against.

5:05 pm est 

Re: 42 A Bradford Street is a Legal Mess

 

A building permit was taken out on 48A to increase the head room of the section in the rear(only part that remains). Nothing else was published.

4:56 pm est 

Re: How Interesting That You Cannot find Provincetown as an IB School

 

"Really? why? what is it, in fact. If it is an International Baccalaureate, why is it not listed? What is it?

another scam, another pretense but off they go to costa Rica.  that should do it kids. Travel there and you instantly an international baccalaureat!"

There has go to be an ulterior motive with this stuff.  All upset about kids taking a trip which won't cost taxpayers a dime and is happening in most every school in the state.  Your knickers are in a twist over something else other than this. Tell us what is really bothering you. Maybe your parents wouldn't let you go on a school trip? Maybe you weren't socialized enough to meet people from other cultures?  What is the REAL issue here.

4:54 pm est 

Re: Provincetown School Trip

 

If a kid asks you to contribute to the girl scouts you can say yes or no depending on whether you think that is a good thing or not.  The same as when CASAS or the Aids Support Group asks for help.  You can give or not.  So, what is different with school kids asking for you to help with their trip (which most every school does)?  You can say yes or no same as with every other situation.  So why are you making such a big thing of it?  Simply say "no thanks" and walk on.  No need for moralizing. 

Why do you insist that this is some sort of nefarious scheme to deprive you of money or something?

3:02 pm est 

Re: 42 A Bradford Street is a Legal Mess

 

"Looks like it was  totally  torn down yesterday, Tuesday the 10th. I read it was to be elevated, but this is just the opposite.'"


Some of us would love to know where you read about it.  Please give  us the reference so we can read the exact verbiage.  Thanks.

3:00 pm est 

How Interesting that You Cannot find Provincetown as an IB School

Really? why? what is it, in fact. If it is an International Baccalaureate, why is it not listed? What is it?

another scam, another pretense but off they go to costa Rica.  that should do it kids. Travel there and you instantly an international baccalaureat!
12:56 pm est 

42 A Bradford Street is a Legal Mess

No abutters were notified. the process occurred without an open meeting law being followed. and now another building goes down, another hole where there once was a building. What a mess.
12:54 pm est 

Re: LCP Committee

Is it legal to just make up a committee or does it have to be done by us voters. I remember years ago we voted in at Towm Meeting the Local Comprehensive Plan Implemenation Committee  that was in existence for several years. At a town meeting we voted to abolish this same committee. Now we have a committee in place again. I don't remember voting the committee in again. Did I miss something.
12:53 pm est 

Re: Town Planner

For her first two years I think she was trying to learn the functions and duties of what the previous permit coordinator,something she's still learning.they still can't seem to get my permit applications issued right.
12:52 pm est 

Re: LCP Committee


Is it legal to just make up a committee or does it have to be done by us voters. I remember years ago we voted in at Towm Meeting the Local Comprehensive Plan Implemenation Committee  that was in existence for several years. At a town meeting we voted to abolish this same committee. Now we have a committee in place again. I don't remember voting the committee in again. Did I miss something.
12:51 pm est 

Re: 48A Bradford Street
 
Are you sure the word elevated was used and not raized (as to demolish) and someone thought it meant raised as to elevate.
12:49 pm est 

Re: Provincetown School Trip

 

The town Pays $48,000 Per Student

and now they will have others pay for the students to fly, eat, and enjoy costa Rica.

ReallY! Sounds like a rich town with rich parents. So, please, do not ask me to fund your children on this vacation. If you want them to go, pay for the trip.

Why should we?

12:48 pm est 

Re: Provincetown School Trip

 

Maybe Ngina can Fund three or four Students

Stop asking for funds and fund them yourself. Advocate of all students when then, put your money where your---is is.

You are always out there so now fund these students. Why ask us to fund them? You want them to go to Costa Rica when then--buy them flights.

Solution solved.

12:46 pm est 

Re: Oh Brother--International Baccalaureat on the Cape??

 

OH, Please

Of course parents of special needs kids were attracted to being here. this has been a big part of who is here. Sorry but there is diversity and then there is the use of the school for kids with a variety of problems. Why not call this the school for kids with disability--but no, it is now so named a school for international students. Can we really have it both ways?

I don't it. It is one---or the other. It cannot be both and then take credit for both when in fact it is neither one--or the other.' 'It is deceptive and educationally wanting. It is a pretense.

12:44 pm est 

Re: What Happened to #48 A Bradford?

 

As for 48 A Bradford--Ask the out going Building Commissioner

and then ask Gloria McPherson. this is a bloody disaster and they know down stairs what a mess they have made.

As for them, oh, "As The World Turns."  they are the Ponce Pilate of demotion. One day it is there --and the next--oh, sorry, it's gone. Is there a problem?

We are left with their problems and it is not nice.

12:43 pm est 

Re: What Happened to #48 A Bradford?

Looks like it was  totally  torn down yesterday, Tuesday the 10th. I read it was to be elevated, but this is just the opposite."

Cape Tip Construction  - what are their plans? THIS WAS NOT A TEAR DOWN!!
12:41 pm est 

Re: What Happened to #48 A Bradford?
 
"Looks like it was  totally  torn down yesterday, Tuesday the 10th. I read it was to be elevated, but this is just the opposite."

would like to know who is developing this? if it is who i think it is there is a serious conflict of interest and this town's attorney's best be put on notice!!
12:38 pm est 

Wednesday, November 11, 2015

What Happened to #48 A Bradford?

 

Looks like it was  totally  torn down yesterday, Tuesday the 10th. I read it was to be elevated, but this is just the opposite.

1:40 pm est 

Re: Oh Brother--International Baccalaureat on the Cape??

Wow, the inmates of the asylum have hit a new low!!  Because they have money, no kids and an excess of greedy self-absorption, they decide that small-town Cape children don't deserve quality school buildings with heat, competitive-level education, or international education that they themselves likely enjoyed.....Congrats, you just earned the 19th level of losers!!  Way to go, fools!
1:39 pm est 

Re: Oh Brother--International Baccalaureat on the Cape??

 

"It's all part of the re-purposing scam for the highschool building. Do small things that maybe nobody notices, make it look like it's always been done and has always been a part of the curriculum and then apply for grants and other state or federally funded programs so everyone can keep their jobs.

It's no different than the SPED funds that were given to towns for kids with learning disabilities. Some of the kids legitimately had disabilities but if the school needed funds and your kid stumbled ever so slightly in his classes, he was labeled SPED and the school got more funds."


Time for you to step up and run for School Committee to stop this fraud and incompetence. Thank you for your service.

1:37 pm est 

Time for Leadership by the BOS

Time to have reasonable meetings that last a reasonable amount of time. You just let meetings go on and on and have everyone speak about this and then that. Leadership moves a meeting along and does it well and sets a timely meeting.

This is not what is happening. Someone be a leader there, please! and I mean a real leader not someone holding the post of chair. Donegan wake up--you can be stronger than you are now. Seize the strength you once showed when you chaired FinCom. You were great there. Do it not with the BOS.
10:35 am est 

Re: Oh Brother--International Baccalaureat on the Cape??

It's all part of the re-purposing scam for the highschool building. Do small things that maybe nobody notices, make it look like it's always been done and has always been a part of the curriculum and then apply for grants and other state or federally funded programs so everyone can keep their jobs.

It's no different than the SPED funds that were given to towns for kids with learning disabilities. Some of the kids legitimately had disabilities but if the school needed funds and your kid stumbled ever so slightly in his classes, he was labeled SPED and the school got more funds.
10:33 am est 

Tuesday, November 10, 2015

Re: Oh Brother--International Baccalaureat on the Cape??

 

"It is pretense. It is folly. These are some of the same teachers who were there for the high school and who are trained as specialist in their field--but not international scholars. Please. And I see what someone is saying, this trip to costa rica is to "prove" that are truly international. "

What is really pretense is you continuing to act like PT is the only town that has kids traveling to other countries.  When I was a kid some of us went to Germany and others to Central America, depending on language and cultures being studied.  This is very common and is far from the scam that you want it to be.

2:19 pm est 

Re: Oh Brother--International Baccalaureat on the Cape??

Sorry But This is NOT An Internationally Trained Faculty

It is pretense. It is folly. These are some of the same teachers who were there for the high school and who are trained as specialist in their field--but not international scholars. Please. And I see what someone is saying, this trip to costa rica is to "prove" that are truly international.

Yikes, kids. Traveling there doesn't make you internationally savvy!

and yes parents will defend the school given we are paying over $48,000 per student per year. Something has to come out that. The highest per student ratio in the state.

12:45 pm est 

Re: Food Trucks

 

What makes you think food trucks would even want to come here off season when there is little or no business to be had?  As a resident I do not see the need for food trucks but if the town decides to allow them that is fine provided people meet the legal and Board of Health requirements.

9:07 am est 

Re: Art For Sale

 

"This conversation has gone far from it's original intent which was that people should mind their own business." 

Uh, no. That was not the original intent of this conversation. Not by a long shot. That was what YOU kept repeating every time someone would voice a point of view that differs from your own. I'm sorry, but "mind your own business" is rarely a good or appropriate answer when someone voices a valid concern.

9:05 am est 

Monday, November 9, 2015

Food Trucks Saga


Imagine you are visiting Provincetown and hook up at a bar in the center of town in November. You're hungry after listening to some live music. What are your options.

All I want to do is have something to eat.

Accommodation is the answer.

Put yourself in the shoes of the visitor. That's a concept that requires vision and thought.

A food truck in November. Perfect.

10:24 pm est 

Re: Town Planner - Incompetency

 

"What is the status of the Local Comprehensive Plan? Is there a draft?"

Don't get your tail in a knot.  A committee was just appointed and they will start work on the LCP.  As to what the town planner did for the first two years I can't answer that one, I guess it takes time to appoint a committee.

10:22 pm est 

Provincetown School Committee

Just a reminder - School Committee meeting tomorrow at 4:30 (Tuesday) Please come on down if you have comments and/or questions.

10:20 pm est 

Oh Brother--International Baccalaureat on the Cape??

The  person that is ranting about the school and the IB program must not read the area newspapers or attend school board meetings. This has been a effort of over four years in the making.  Where was this person when the money for the program and training was approved by the town?  It is very sad that people that have no knowledge or understanding of an issue are permitted to speak without having the facts. The people of this town should be thankful for the staff at our school and the wonderful opportunities they share with the students.
10:17 pm est 

Couple of Thoughts on Reading Some of the Back and Forth Here.

I don't understand the bit about art and where it should be bought.  If you like it , for whatever reason, buy it.  Why the concern about the seller/ buyer?  All kinds of things can be bought and sold through all kinds of mechanisms.  Why not art.  If you like galleries buy there.  If you have had good success at yard sales go there.  If the internet works for you.  Great. 

Just about every school has some sort of program that involves travel, frequently to other countries.  This is not a novel idea dreamed up here. Being fully educated means having exposure to different cultures and different languages.
10:16 pm est 

Pit Bull Attacks Mailman

The mail man walks up to the mail box behind the door. Suddenly, without a sound, the pit bull viciously bites down on the mailman's arm and won't let go. Blood is everywhere.

And this is a GUEST HOUSE. The mail man's fingers swell up like sausages..He can't work. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE A LEASH LAW--EVEN FOR YOU PEOPLE WHO TAKE YOUR DOGS INTO BEECH FOREST..WHERE ONE SNARLED AND ATTACKED MY FOOT..WHILE THE OWNERS LAUGHED.
10:14 pm est 

Re: Art For Sale

 

Thank you for making my point.  Art for some people is about marketing, fame and money.  For others it is about truth, beauty and exploration of the human condition.  You choose your own path.  Let others choose their own.

This conversation has gone far from it's original intent which was that people should mind their own business.  I for one don't relish the idea of living in a town full of tattle tales and busybodies watching what everyone else is doing and waiting for the chance to pounce over some petty grudge.

10:12 pm est 

Oh Brother--International Baccalaureat on the Cape??

Do you really believe we have an internally trained faculty to handle the only  "international baccalaureat" on the cape? Who is fooling who? and now a trip to Costa Rica proves how "international" they are. This is getting to be a whole joke if  not a deceptive educational game that is nothing but a regular school with regular teachers pretending to be more than they really are.

Is the Costa Rica trip the imprimatur for this middle school to be "seen" as an "international" school? I am sickened by the intellectual and educational duplicity.

You do not have globally trained teachers and the students are not gaining an international viewpoint. They are lucky to get math, science, and humanities done well. and we don't even have a ninth grade!
11:02 am est 

Town Planner - Incompetency

 

Either produce or leave. Provincetown cannot afford to  continue on this path. Does the Planner know or  understand her  job function?

Why are we paying another person to do her  job? It's ridiculous! 

People seem to have forgotten that within less than a year  on the job here in Provincetown, the Town  Planner applied for a position as assistant Town Manager in Wellfleet. That tells  you something.

We should demand to see  her "work product". 

Why does she have  1/2 of  Fridays off, when she has not produced the primary product, i.e. Local Comprehensive Plan. She is not Union.

Do  the  work for which you are paid!! 

11:00 am est 

Town Planner Performance - What Has She Done?

 

What is the status of the Local Comprehensive Plan? Is there a draft?

What has the Town Planner done over the more than two year period.

We have a right to know! 

 

10:42 am est 

Re: Food Trucks - Who the Hell is Runnig This Town?

 

Very funny--on what roll is She Playing

But I do wonder what other role she is playing as enforcer of zoning by-laws? Seems not her purview. but I do like your irony.

10:38 am est 

Re: Art For Sale

"Some people look at a work of graffito (sic) and think that's filthy litter.  Suddenly a gallery owner says that graffito is good and WOW a banksy!  The same person who poo pooed the graffito is willing to pay big bucks. That is the essence of the gallery system owner and purchaser. "

Thanks, I think you just made the other poster's comments very clear for me: marketing DOES matter. Otherwise, one's "graffito" gets painted over by the DPW, while the correctly marketed one goes on to fame and money. Thanks for making the person's point.
10:26 am est 

Miss Them

I miss the rantings of the renters who ripped apart landlords, the ones who had the housing lawyers on speed dial and know all of the legal rules about housing in the commonwealth and would spout them out whenever any tenant said anything about their landlord

If you go to the police blotter that was on Facebook last winter..in January the police had to respond to four landlord tenants disputes..that is one a week.

That is why people are renting seasonally instead of year round.

The 365 Group should lobby the state housing people to pay more to landlords with section 8 tenants instead of reducing what they get.

The state pays 4 million each month house people in motels--and yet doesn't pay anywhere near what market rate apt would get in Provincetown.

That is the problem. If landlords could get a decent rent from section 8 tenants--they would do that in a heart beat; then you would see people living throughout town in subsidized housing in real, established neighborhoods instead all cooped up in low income housing development with echoing-drum stairwells and little insulation and living under the prying eyes of neighbors who think that you might be getting a little more than someone else.
10:24 am est 

Re: Art For Sale

 

"Those who buy art because it speaks to them are better off buying anywhere other than galleries as galleries only push the art deemed worthy by the owners." 

This is kind of a ridiculous statement. I mean, what if the art that speaks to me IS in a gallery? Should I not buy it because it's in a gallery? Isn't that sort of an "elitist" attitude? You sound like someone who doesn't really know much about art or the gallery system.

10:23 am est 

Re: Art For Sale

 

Wow, some seriously ignorant comments about art and "elitism" on this blog lately. I guess when you don't understand something, the easiest thing to do is deride it. These folks should just continue buying and selling their "art" at yard sales.

 
10:21 am est 

Sunday, November 8, 2015

Re: Food Trucks - Who the Hell is Runnig This Town?

 

"What roll is she paying in this "Food Truck" matter?"

Hopefully, one with unsalted butter.

8:42 pm est 

Re: Art For Sale

 

Buying art versus medication from a yard sale?  That's kind of a stretched analogy, don't  you think?  Although i bet there are plenty of folks in town who do buy their "medicine" from backyard sources, in your overreach you have made your position laughable.

8:41 pm est 

Re: Art For Sale

"Art I see in someone's yard, or on the sidewalk, immediately begs the question "isn't it good enough to put in a gallery?". That's not elitist (the favorite cry of people who just aren't good enough)."


Art not good enough for a gallery...My god!  that is the very definition of elitist.  Art is not good enough unless a gallery owner deems it to be?  You can't see the forest through the trees.  Art exists all around us.  Creativity and art should not be filtered by elitist galleries.  Art should be filtered by those who enjoy it for its own sake.  You can find more creativity in graffiti than you can find in some galleries. 


Some people purchase art primarily as an investment and they should stick to the galleries.  That way they have a better chance of getting a return on their investment as the artists represented have been pre-selected and deemed worthy by the elites. 

Those who buy art because it speaks to them are better off buying anywhere other than galleries as galleries only push the art deemed worthy by the owners. 

Some people look at a work of graffito and think that's filthy litter.  Suddenly a gallery owner says that graffito is good and WOW a banksy!  The same person who poo pooed the graffito is willing to pay big bucks. That is the essence of the gallery system owner and purchaser.    
8:38 pm est 

Re: Food Trucks - Who the Hell is Runnig This Town?

 

Are we Hiring a consultant for around $17,000 to write the Comprehensive Long-term plan? Why? We have a town planner and we have an assistant town  manager who has experience  as a town planner somewhere in California.

1:23 pm est 

Re: Food Trucks - Who the Hell is Runnig This Town?

 

Is Gloria McPherson The Zoning enforcer?

I thought that belonged to the Building Inspector and to the Building commissioner. since when is a town planner the enforcer of zoning by-laws? Can someone clarify this? It's seems odd.

1:22 pm est 

Re: Field Trip

 

I think the Costa Rica Trip for young students is the Wrong venue

Students have to raise money and even if they decide not to go, I think they must still raise a certain amount. and why Costa Rica for young kids? Is the superintendent going? and if she is, who is paying for her trip? Is she being paid and are other teachers being paid to "accompany" the young students to Costa Rica?

Maybe Philadelphia; maybe Boston; maybe New York but why, why Costa Rica? Wrong choice; wrong decision.

11:58 am est 

Re: Food Trucks in Provincetown

"Knapp then goes on to complain about Town Hall not supporting local businesses. I think I'd rather not have Julie Knapp's style of support."

Here's her big problem. Now other businesses can complain about everything SHE does. What about that cone thing outside? Is that insured? Is that even allowed because it's signage and you can only have so many square feet of it? What about her ice cream that isn't "homemade"? Does she have public bathrooms? This goes on. And why not, if you're another business, complain about her's now that she's decided to publicly complain about someone else? Where does it end? When everyone in town is issuing formal complaints about everyone else? Because you know, her included, have small violations (or big ones) everywhere. This town would become like the cold war. Some people's greed strips out their intelligence.
11:57 am est 

Re: Art For Sale


"By the way galleries sell art through websites too in case you didn't know."

Ugh, could you possibly be any more arrogant and condescending? Yeah, we get it - YOU (and only you) understand the internet and the art world. Thanks so much for educating us ignorant, feeble minded fools.

11:55 am est 

Re: Art For Sale
 

"Galleries are elitist tools used to stifle artists and determine which artist prosper and which fail commercially."

No, galleries are for displaying art in a proper setting, publicizing, and providing the right environment to market the merchandise. Would you buy your medication from someone's back yard? Art I see in someone's yard, or on the sidewalk, immediately begs the question "isn't it good enough to put in a gallery?". That's not elitist (the favorite cry of people who just aren't good enough) it's called marketing. Or perhaps this person is just greedy and doesn't want to have to pay the gallery owner a commission? Because, knowing the people involved and the mental state of one of the actors, that's what I would believe. Greed and the fact that one of them is just a horror show to deal with. So stop using lazy terms like "elitist" and also stop being a total tool and talk to gallery owners. Or move back to New York, where I'm SURE they'll also allow this.
11:53 am est 

Re: Food Trucks
 
Mexican food bought from the back of a new to town, no name truck parked in a parking lot post season.

Ya, I'm going to go with a resounding NO on that. 
11:51 am est 

Re: Art For Sale

 

"As far as having to sell art only through a gallery, who said that has to be the only way to do it?"

Wow, missing the point AGAIN. I never said that was the only way to sell art, just that the original poster may resent the fact that they are working within the system and paying taxes, rent, etc., while another person or people are avoiding these costs. Much like the notion that many local restaurants who pay rent, etc. resent the idea of food trucks setting up shop and selling product cheaply because they don't have the same overhead.

You seem pretty angry about this issue and seem to have an agenda. Again, why don't you sit back and allow the discussion instead of snapping at everyone who commments?

11:49 am est 

Re: Food Trucks - Who the Hell is Runnig This Town?

 

An apparent zoning violation occurred, Town Planner Gloria McPherson said, because there is nothing in the bylaws — which regulate private property — that allows food trucks, even by special permit."

 Since when does the Town Planner get to make public pronouncements regarding legal matters, which have not received legal review? What roll is she paying in this "Food Truck" matter? I for one am not even certain that the absence of a bylaw permitting such a use is an automatic prohibition. My understanding of law is that "If not prohibited it is allowed".

It is time for town management to take control of this individual who does not seem to comprehend her position in the scheme of town governance.

She is all over the place injecting herself in every manner. There are specific duties associated with the title of Town planner, the public rendering of legal opinion is not one of them. Who does this person work for? She is loose cannon, which injects herself in every public issue.

Lets' be clear, the creation of the 360 Ad hoc Committee is nothing more than her veiled attempt to have a super-influence on town governance. If she wants to be involved in town politics she should quit her position as Town Planner and run for Selectman.

It has been more than two years since she assumed the position of Town Planner. the need for this position as described by its chief proponent David Gardner, was first and foremost the creation of an overall Local Comprehensive Plan from which the town could develop strategic strategies, which would permit the detailed tactical implementation of comprehensive developed integrated policies and goals i.e. street planning, housing philosophy, rate of economic growth, resource allocation, forward projections regarding demographic of age and population etc. 

She has produced no such plan. Instead, she has been involved in the weeds of government machinations, proposing changes to by-laws which are poorly defined and lacking any analysis of possible unintended consequence. Special Town Meeting rejection of Articles 11and 12 are perfect examples.

McPherson should be required to either produce the afore mentioned plan by the end of 1st quarter 2016 for presentation to the town or be terminated for failure to perform the duties of Town Planner.

Either she can perform this function or she can't. It should not involve the hiring of a specialist in that we were guaranteed that she was the specialist.

The Board of Selectmen should insist the Town Manager and Assistant Town manager give attention to this critical matter.

Enough is enough 

 

10:08 am est 

Wicked Local Provincetown

Ann Wood 

Banner Staff

November 07. 2015 10:54AM

Provincetown probes legality \of ‘pop-up’ food truck

 

 

PROVINCETOWN — Social media went wild on Sunday after Harry McKone questioned the legality of a truck that was selling Mexican-inspired food from the parking lot of Bubala’s Restaurant on Friday and Saturday night.

The restaurant, at 185 Commercial St., closed Oct. 18, but its bar and patio were lively and happening with folks enjoying tacos from the Solace food truck and drinks over Halloween weekend.

An apparent zoning violation occurred, Town Planner Gloria McPherson said, because there is nothing in the bylaws — which regulate private property — that allows food trucks, even by special permit.

On Monday morning, Building Commissioner Geoff Larsen started enforcement proceedings with a site visit and by reviewing the “public record on hand,” which is the paperwork that details the property. His department will look at how the placement of the truck in the parking lot affected the entrance and exit, among other issues.

“It appears to be a violation that needs to be addressed in a transparent way,” he said.

Larsen sent a letter to Bubala’s owner John Yingling, asking for input on the alleged zoning violation, which, he emphasized, was sent on Monday by first class rather than certified mail.

Yingling has 14 days to respond.

Larsen said on Tuesday that the respondent could agree that it was a violation and say that he won’t do it again, or say that it isn’t a violation and make an appeal.

The letter was also meant to inform other town departments who might have a stake in the matter, including the planning department and local building inspector Annie Howard who, he says, will continue the investigation since his last day of work was Tuesday. The health department was also notified.

Because Solace, which is owned by Michael Banghart and John Arsenault, was granted a permit to sell off the Wellfleet pier last summer, the local health agent in that town — rather than in Provincetown — inspected it. Its food was prepped at the Salty Market in North Truro, where its commercial kitchen is certified as a Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Point location for cleaning, sanitation and food preparation.

Provincetown Health and Safety Officer Morgan Clark did not respond to an e-mail for comment by press time.

If Yingling is found to have violated the zoning bylaws, he could receive a ticketed warning or a fine of $50 for a first offense, Larsen said. The fine for a second offence is $100.

Larsen heard about the food truck from coworkers on his way into the office Monday morning, he said. That’s no surprise because, by that time, McKone’s post on an unofficial town Facebook page had generated more than 200 comments, which ranged from complaints about the unfairness of a private business owner skirting the law to praise of the quality, price and convenience of the Solace food truck. And while the food truck was in town, Twisted Pizza owner Julie Knapp complained to workers at Solace and to Provincetown Town Hall.

Bubala’s owner John Yingling said Monday that a different pop-up food truck was stationed in that parking lot on Halloween night last year and generated no complaints.

“The problem is that on that weekend there’s not enough places to feed everyone in P’town,” he said. “A lot of people told me it was great, it was fun.”

And yet some complained online that it wasn’t fair that a food truck could just “pop-up” in the parking lot of a private business while other such trucks have been denied access to town.

Though there’s currently no zoning that allows food trucks, McPherson thinks they have a place in town. She is looking for a way to allow food trucks that won’t create an unfair advantage over established restaurants that pay “astronomical” rents. She’s generating a questionnaire in which townspeople will be able to weigh in on when and where they might be appropriate.

“Food trucks are not a priority and never would be a priority, but economic development is,” she said, adding that they are economic incubators that help young people who want to start businesses but can’t afford Provincetown’s rent. Food trucks, she added, create foot traffic, which is good for all business. “That is part of our economic development priority.”

Larsen agreed.

“It’s critical, I think. It’s important to start a discussion,” he said.

Yingling said he didn’t make a dime off the food sold by Solace, and that the town needs to change with the times.

“If you want the town to have young people in it, you have to do something hip for the town,” he said. “If people want to worry about it too much, I won’t do it again and the town will lose out.”

 

 

 

10:02 am est 

Re: Art For Sale

With so many people trying to sell this guy named Art, why can't the police bring prostitution charges?   Chill people it's not even winter yet.
11:57 pm est 

Re: Art for Sale


"Why don't you just sit back and allow the discussion? My take on this whole thing is that the original poster is most likely a gallery owner who doesn't like the fact that while they follow the rules and pay rent, taxes and advertising fees, some artists (who may also be gallery owners) are trying to circumvent the system and sell work without paying these fees."

Sit back and allow the discussion?  I am participating in the discussion, not stopping it.  As far as having to sell art only through a gallery, who said that has to be the only way to do it?  Why shouldn't an artist be able to sell their own work without paying fees to a middle man  gallery owner. Why should a gallery owner have so much power over whose art gets represented and whose doesn't.

Galleries are elitist tools used to stifle artists and determine which artist prosper and which fail commercially.  Why should they have that right?  Much like the way the internet changed the way music was sold, it will change the way art is sold over time.  You can hold on to the past all you want but time marches on.  By the way galleries sell art through websites too in case you didn't know.  Maybe someday art galleries will go the way of Tower Records.  Who knows? 

I still say that the original poster has an ax to grind against a particular person and her post has nothing to do with the art galleries or yard sales or anything other than a petty grudge.

11:55 pm est 

Re: Food Trucks

 

All these anti-food truck people whining about how it will be bad for the town, bad for restaurants who don't want the competition, etc.

Well as a resident of this town, I'm overjoyed at the idea of food trucks. There are so few affordable dining options in this town, I relish the idea of a cheap but creative and quick lunch option.

The restaurants in this town have been riding the tourist gravy train for far too long. So many are serving mediocre food at top shelf, gourmet prices. Maybe the food trucks will make them re-evaluate their strategy: either drop your prices or improve your food!

Townies gotta eat too!!!

11:53 pm est 

Re: Field Trip

The field trip does not take place every year. It happened every other year. If you do not want to contribute that is your right. Using put downs  is not necessary especially when you do not have all of the facts. this trip is a great educational opportunity for the students. I support it whole heartedly.
11:51 pm est 

Saturday, November 7, 2015

Re: Art For Sale

 

"In your rush to judge my judgement, you missed my point.  The point I was making was that the original poster should mind their own business.  Their attack against this "online artist" is nothing more than a transparent axe grinding for whatever personal grudge they have against a fellow resident.  And for the record the poster did pose the question as to whether or not using Facebook to sell stuff was against Facebook policy.  I didn't pull that out of my rear end."

You've put your two cents in (a number of times)but instead of trying to shut down the dialog by repeating your "mind your own business!" mantra, why don't you just sit back and allow the discussion? My take on this whole thing is that the original poster is most likely a gallery owner who doesn't like the fact that while they follow the rules and pay rent, taxes and advertising fees, some artists (who may also be gallery owners) are trying to circumvent the system and sell work without paying these fees.

Why do you assume this is a personal attack on one artist? Several instances were mentioned involving three different artists where this type of behavior occurred. It sounds to me like you're a bit defensive, perhaps you are one of the artists in question?

I'm sure my comments (like all others regarding this matter) will be met with another angry "mind your own business!" from you, but I think the purpose of this blog is to discuss issues of concern to community members. You are entitled to your opinion, but so is everyone else.

As for pulling things "out of your rear end" - show a little class.

5:59 pm est 

Re: Food Trucks in Provincetown

 

I love the idea of food trucks~so innovative. Provincetown is so unlike any where else in the world...this could again be another feather in our cap for being on the edge of the edge! Think about this too: Sharon would NEVER have let food trucks come here. Another reason why I'm so overjoyed that David is at the helm of the Provincetown schooner! Let the trucks roll in!!!

5:56 pm est 

Re: Art For Sale

 

It's not complicated. Julie Knapp filed a formal complaint against Bubula's and Giue Yingling.  She DEMANDED fines be levied. $$$ And she is all over Facebook trading on Canteen's goodwill.

Knapp then goes on to complain about Town Hall not supporting local businesses.

I think I'd rather not have Julie Knapp's style of support.

5:54 pm est 

Re: Food Trucks in Provincetown

 

"I am not in favor of food trucks on the pier or anywhere else in town.  The restaurants have a hard enough time making a go of it and the added competition will make it even more difficult for them.  .   ."


While Mr Yingling is quoted as saying he didn't make any $ off the food truck I wonder if he would accept the truck being parked at Bubalas in September when both Bubala's and 186 are both open.  Or doesn't he want the competition?

5:52 pm est 

Re: Food Trucks in Provincetown

 

The sauce is actually canned not frozen.

5:50 pm est 

Re: Provincetown School Field Trip

 

This Costa Rican field trip for the Provincetown school is such a joke. Asking the community to donate to fund the trip really? It is a glorified field trip for the overpaid principal and the same group of teachers every year.

5:49 pm est 

It's Fall

And I love the quietness, the silence and the leaves falling like butterflies amid the dunes. It's just a lovely time of year, one we all deserve after a non-stop summer.

Hope you can all enjoy the beauty and calm and peacefulness that is now ours for the enjoying.
11:47 am est 

Re: Food Trucks in Provincetown

 

They are not a threat to restaurants but some, sadly, feel threatened.

Ones that claim to sell "home made ice cream" that's made out of state? The same one sells frozen dough, frozen cheese, and frozen sauce as their pizza, then has the audacity to start this whole mess.

11:46 am est 

House to Condo Conversion

 

THREE STEP TO TURNING YOUR MULTI-FAMILY HOME INTO CONDOS

Step one. Make on phone call and hire an engineer to make the plans of your building. That is all that you do for step one.

Step two. Drop of the plans to an attorney who then register's them.

Step three..the hardest part..coming up with the name of your Condos-Scarlett's Haven (for a Gone with the Wind fan), Long Point Views, Shelter Cove Condos--you get the idea..that's it.

You pay these folks and you have the peace of mind of walking into the Spring Town meeting secure that no matter what articles are the warrent are aimed at putting sanctions on your property--you are free of worry.

The feeling of this peacefulness is Just Heavenly; believe me--I know.

11:44 am est 

Food Trucks in Provincetown

 

I am not in favor of food trucks on the pier or anywhere else in town.  The restaurants have a hard enough time making a go of it and the added competition will make it even more difficult for them.  Restaurants own or lease property upon which taxes are paid while a food truck does not.  There are many who are falling over themselves to have food from the latest food fad which are food trucks.  We have enough restaurant choices and we do not need food trucks.  Food trucks may be nice in cities and at country fairs but please do not bring them to Provincetown.  We are not a city and we will never be.  I never understand why some people are not happy keeping Provincetown like it is.  They insist we need to have all of the things a city has but we do not.

11:43 am est 

Re: Art For Sale

"In your rush to judge the original poster as technologically inept, you seem to be missing the point. I don't think they're saying that they believe online sales are illegal, the implication seems to be that this artist is selling artwork without paying taxes."


In your rush to judge my judgement, you missed my point.  The point I was making was that the original poster should mind their own business.  Their attack against this "online artist" is nothing more than a transparent axe grinding for whatever personal grudge they have against a fellow resident.  And for the record the poster did pose the question as to whether or not using Facebook to sell stuff was against Facebook policy.  I didn't pull that out of my rear end.

As far as paying taxes...unless you have seen the artist's tax returns, the claim that they aren't paying taxes is a judgement based on supposition without any basis in fact.
11:40 am est 

Check Your Drink

 

Is it safe to go to the Pig again? As long as she's there  we will not go.

11:39 am est 

Re: Strutting Around


"This is the attitude demonstrated by so many people who want the taxpayers to subsidize them to live here."

Actually, I'm not bitter, I'm amused...by people who are too stupid to realize that Karma is real, and is just waiting in the wings to bite your ass.
11:38 am est 

Maybe Some Just Find a Problem Where There Really Isn't One

Maybe some just want to regulate, regulate, regulate. they want to add rules there they are not; prohibit what is not yet prohibited; and deny what is not denied.

they, perhaps, need another job. Maybe prison guard would be an option. Maybe a corporate accountant. Maybe ...gee--what else could they do? Rule lovers and rule makers --there must be some place for them.

Any ideas from the peanut gallery?
11:36 am est 

Yes, Yes, Yes

Some of us do want food trucks here. Why not? So much fun. So much culinary diversity. It is great for all of us.

So, again, why not?
11:34 am est 

Friday, November 6, 2015

As for Me--Let the Food Trucks Roll!

I love the idea and I love having them here in Provincetown. they are not a threat to restaurants but some, sadly, feel threatened.

We could have food trucks along the pier--we do have sheds--for a cheap rent. We could have food trucks along with the framer's market.

Why not? Why not indeed!
6:59 pm est 

Strutting Around

"...it might behoove some of you to remember that the last time people strutted around overdoing the "Let them eat" act, they ended up at the guillotines....

If you don't want to be demonized, don't act like overly entitled asses".


This is the attitude demonstrated by so many people who want the taxpayers to subsidize them to live here.

Anyone who works hard to accomplish their goal of owning a piece of Provincetown is demonized as strutting around etc etc.

This is how you view property owners and yet Town meeting is asked to vote to penalize property owners on your behalf by denying them condo conversion--thank goodness it failed.

You are consumed with bitterness and it is a very, very sad way to live your life day in and day out all of these days--that are now Years--of your life. What a pity.
6:57 pm est 

Re: Art For Sale

 

"In context it applies to the poster who refuses to accept that technology has changed and sales are made in the virtual  world more often than not these days."

In your rush to judge the original poster as technologically inept, you seem to be missing the point. I don't think they're saying that they believe online sales are illegal, the implication seems to be that this artist is selling artwork without paying taxes.

6:53 pm est 

Re: Jennifer Cabral

 

"If you remember, she "served" on the first town manager select committee that was a failure"

And, if you remember there were many others on that committee and that a consultant brought forth the candidates and the BOS made the ill-fated choice.  I am neither a friend or foe of your target but definitely a friend of truth and logic.  Your arguments lose credibility when you go off on this BS.

2:30 pm est 

Re: Facedook - Town Talk

 

"I'm glad Hatch is our FinCom chair, he'll put them in their place."

This brings up two thoughts:
1) in your opinion what is their place?
2) What authority does Hatch have to do anything with them never mind your idea?

The FinCom by law and in reality is much like it was once described by a Vice President -  not worth a bucket of warm spit when it comes down to effectiveness.

2:28 pm est 

Re: Art For Sale

 

Now go back to peeking out your curtains to see what your neighbors are up to.  Else if you have some petty axe to grind with a particular person, man up and tell it to their face

You think this is nasty? I think this is an accurate assessment of a flaw in the culture and character of this town. Why do so many feel such a need to be rats? Selling art on line? The food truck? Did you try one of those lobster tacos, oh my!  The parking snitches? Come on people how about a bit of live and let live. This isn't East Germany By the Bay or Jaranville.

11:55 am est 

Seems There is Some One Behind the Food Truck Bruhaha

Is someone trying to get back to John Yingling--or is it Eerik Yingling they are indirectly targeting? Who wants to embarrass Erik Yingling?

Do tell!
11:54 am est 

Something's Gone Awry

I thought there was talk of having food trucks here for the New Year's Celebration and having pop up restaurants so people would have a choice of dining. With so many restaurants closed, this seemed like a fabulous idea.

Now we are sending the building commissioner to issue violations--and this  man hardly ever issues any violations--and we are considering fines and looking for an explanation from the owner of Bubala's. How unfriendly to business can we get?

the  more the merrier--so we used to believe. What now? Over-regulated, over-examined, and the fun that used to be, now lies in a building commissioner's draw.
11:52 am est 

Re: Housing

What a bunch of humanitarians...excuse me, but I have to go throw up outside one of your empty "homes" now....it might behoove some of you to remember that the last time people strutted around overdoing the "Let them eat" act, they ended up at the guillotines....

If you don't want to be demonized, don't act like overly entitled asses.
11:51 am est 

Re: Art For Sale

If that's the nastiest post you've ever seen on this board you obviously haven't been around long or paying attention. 

In the ongoing tradition of unnecessary censorship  the word redacted by the blog admin was Luddite, not some nastiness from your own imagination.  Just in case the admin allows Luddite to get posted this time, i suggest you look it up.  It's not derogatory. 

In context it applies to the poster who refuses to accept that technology has changed and sales are made in the virtual  world more often than not these days.  The fact that you inserted something nasty in place of the redacted word says more about your own mindset than that of the poster.
11:49 am est 

Re: Jennifer Cabral

"So much for Jen spitting in their cup theory. You sound very wrong."

I can sound however you like but that is true. I'm sorry it shatters whatever you might think of Cabral, but it's what she said. Also, she seemed to fight with everyone over the Jaran thing and was all over the map. If you remember, she "served" on the first town manager select committee that was a failure. Her constant ramblings no small contribution to the dysfunction. In fact, all that fighting afterwards is why she's doing what she's doing now. More childish antics from someone who needs to grow up. Finally.
11:47 am est 

Re: Art For Sale

"Wow, that's gotta be the nastiest post I've ever seen on this blog!!"

Of course that was the nastiest post on this blog, if you know what people are talking about you know who wrote it. But don't worry. Her house is on the market and she's moving back to New York so we'll only have to endure her crazy ravings for a short time more. Thank God for the little things.
11:45 am est 

Re: Facedook - Town Talk

 

The Provincetown 365 microphone crowd is complaining about petty bickering on Town Talk Facebook.

Which microphone are talking from from when you complain about petty bickering???????

I'm glad Hatch is our FinCom chair, he'll put them in their place.

11:43 am est 

Re: Art For Sale

 

Re: Wow, that's gotta be the nastiest post I've ever seen on this blog!!

I guess people tend to get nasty and threatening when you point out that they ain't paying their taxes or have lied about their income to get into affordable housing. Such are the hazzards of living in Provincetown.

11:09 pm est 

Thursday, November 5, 2015

Re: Art For Sale

 

"why don't you do that you          !  I think you will find almost every company in who does business today has a facebook presence.  Welcome to the 21st century.  Now go back to peeking out your curtains to see what your neighbors are up to.  Else if you have some petty axe to grind with a particular person, man up and tell it to thier face"

Wow, that's gotta be the nastiest post I've ever seen on this blog!! It never ceases to amaze me what rude, nasty people reside in our seemingly peaceful little village. I guess it takes all kinds. Whoever this artist is, I wouldn't want to mess with him. He's got a serious mean streak!

4:53 pm est 

Provincetown 360 Take the Lead
 
Housing is your big issue. You are the group that may use your own combined money and raise money and then start buying multi-family homes so that you may then rent them out cheaply.

There are property owners in Provincetown 360 and they can easily take out an equity loan on their property. People who rent can take out loans or borrow money or use their savings and contribute to their affordable housing fund.

Why don't you take the lead? In one day you raised around $5,000.00 to have photographs emblazoned on the wharf--why not work towards buying property and renting it out?

You want the town to do it--but you all can do it--make the start--get the momentum started by putting your own money on the line.

All of you can contribute money to this cause and make enough for a down payment on something that you can then rent out at below market rate.

I'm surprised you hadn't thought of it yourselves.
11:37 am est 

Re: Jennifer Cabral

 

It Seems to Me That the Blog Reflects What Is On People's Mind

and if it Jennifer Cabral because she did propose an article at town hall and if people are against what she did or for what she did, then they post. It is not an accident that her presence is reflected on these pages. It reflects her most recent actions.

11:34 am est 

Affordable Housing Reality

The reality is that for the desperate who want to live in a exclusive summer resort community without winter jobs; they can't see anything beyond the need for housing.

It is so overwhelming to them that they think that the whole town is ringing their hands and is ready to open their wallets and subsidize others to live here.

They think nothing of putting an article on the warrant and take away people's rights to do what they wish with their property.

You have overstepped the boundaries BIG TIME. The alarm bells and Red Alert signs are blinking not stop now with that restrictive condo conversion article and now everyone's eyes are open that their greatest asset--their home, may be in jeopardy if they own a multi family property.

Sorry, the taxpayers have VOTED against this and against putting restrictions on condo conversions. How many times do you need to submit housing articles on your own behalf to the detriment of taxpayers before you see the light?

Hard working people are being demonized for buying a bit of provincetown that they can call home part of the year. Landlords who rent are being demonized. People who worked hard, bought property and enjoy life here for the summer are demonized--all are being demonized on facebook pages every day-day in and day out year after year.

I can recite their names they rant so often on the facebook pages--men and women who rent all claim that nothing is being done after taxpayers spent millions providing land for affordable housing--yet it is NEVER enough.

Take over the property owner's homes in the winter a former town appointed committee members espouses! And you wonder why we don't flock to town meeting in droves to pass every article regarding affordable housing or restrictive condo conversions.

Keep on submitting articles to town meeting and keep watching them be voted down. People who live here are tired of being demonized day in and day out year after year. If you don't believe me--just look at the housing articles that have been voted down.
10:42 am est 

Re: Art For Sale

 

"you should look into facebook policy on sales..."


why don't you do that you          !  I think you will find almost every company in who does business today has a facebook presence.  Welcome to the 21st century.  Now go back to peeking out your curtains to see what your neighbors are up to.  Else if you have some petty axe to grind with a particular person, man up and tell it to thier face instead of anonymous sniping on this blog as if anyone else cares about someone selling thier work online.

9:17 am est 

Wednesday, November 4, 2015

Re: Art For Sale

 

"I'd say a little mind your own business is what's most appropriate."

Yeah...that's usually the first response from someone who knows that what they;re doing is wrong. I don't think it would be too difficult to look into the Facebook guidelines regarding running an online business, and my guess would be that it's most likely a no-no, especially when it means you're making money and not paying taxes. Sorry, we all have to pay taxes. "Artists" are not exempt.

10:54 pm est 

So Little Memory is Not Good For Any Town

Remember the past. It will help with understanding the future.
10:48 pm est 

Re: Art For Sale
 
Is etsy or ebay more apropriate?  I'd say a little mind your own business is what's most appropriate.  I could see if your nneighbors were having a perpetual yard sale.  That would be a nuisance in a residential area.  I wouldn't put up with that people coming and  going all the time.  However online selling has no effect on the quality of life in the neighboorhood.  You should step away from the window Gladys Kravitz.  That includes the facebook window into other people's business.
8:19 pm est 

Re: Jennifer Cabral

 

Ok. So now I smell some bullshit. Jen Cabral and the Webmaster and his wife  were all  on the same team when it came to Jaran. Just look at the history of this blog, so I find your post incredibly untrue. There's no way those three would be fighting over Jaran. So much for Jen spitting in their cup theory. You sound very wrong.

8:17 pm est 

Art for Sale

 

So a while back there was a local artist having a "yard sale" of his artwork every single day. Eventually neighbors complained and he was told to stop because he was basically running a gallery without a license and not paying taxes on sold artwork. Then, more recently another local artist was doing the same thing out of her garage after closing her gallery. Again, she was told this wasn't allowed. Now another local artist is selling dozens of works extremely cheaply every day through her facebook page, essentially a never ending online "yard sale." Does anyone know the rules/laws in regards to this? Are people allowed to use facebook as a selling tool? Wouldn't ebay or etsy be more appropriate?

7:00 pm est 

From: David Panagore - Town Mangar

Town Talk: Provincetown 

 November 2 at 5:02pm - Provincetown, MA 

On behalf of the Board of Selectmen, I am pleased to announce that our DPW has applied for and been awarded a $1.96M Massworks grant from the State. Rich Waldo and I were up in Plymouth today to formally receive the award from Housing and Economic Development Secretary Jay Ash. These are highly competitive infrastructure grants. This grant will fund the Third Phase of the Commercial Street reconstruction from Johhson St through Howland Street with porous pavement. This approach which is beyond what normally takes place on road reconstruction lays four feet of gravel along the center line, allowing rain water to be absorbed rather than be diverted into to the out fall pipes and discharging into the Harbor. From my conversation with Secretary Ash, the Governor sees this as both an economic development project and an environmental Project. We are on the radar screen. Congrats again to Rich and his team.

5:24 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

 

"Do we really average about 1,000 visitors per day year-round?  I use the library often and appreciate it, but I don't see that many visitors even in-season.  Maybe by chance I only ever go on slow days... then there is the winter.  But the data must be correct, since the library reported it, right?"'

Bit of a stretch me thinks.  And, I have no problems at all with the library.  But,  maybe Mr. Panagore should ask a few questions over there.  If every resident used the library (and I'm sure they don't) it would mean that would be visiting probably more than once a week and closer to twice.  Throw in lots of visits by tourists and there is still a very high number per person.  This is not the biggest deal in town but there is always the problem that if someone is not being accurate and honest about one thing it is an easy jump to doubting more and more.

5:18 pm est 

Re: Jennifer Cabral
 
"So if you know so much about Jen Cabral's comment, who are some of the people on her "spit in their drinks" list?  If this is true surely she wouldn't have made such a childish comment without saying who she'd do it to or why."


Yes I know who she made it about and so do a lot of other people: your blogmaster here on MYPACC and his wife. Why? It was over all the fallout over the Jaran fiasco. Where was it made? Are you so new to town that you don't know where she was barking then? Where did her other childish incident occur? Why at the same place she's working now and all over those same incidents. Makes you feel good about going there, huh?
3:09 pm est 

Re: Jennifer Cabral

 

So if you know so much about Jen Cabral's comment, who are some of the people on her "spit in their drinks" list?  If this is true surely she wouldn't have made such a childish comment without saying who she'd do it to or why.

11:44 am est 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

 

"...Library Journal as the top Library in the U.S. with an expenditure range under $999,999"

If you look at the Journal's website, they show most recent data for 2014.  The ratings are heavily impacted by the number of visits per capita and Provincetown absolutely kills the competition in this category, at 114.4.  Next highest is 65.4. 

Our population = 2,942, so this means the library reported over 336,500 visits in 2014 (2,942 times 114.4).

Do we really average about 1,000 visitors per day year-round?  I use the library often and appreciate it, but I don't see that many visitors even in-season.  Maybe by chance I only ever go on slow days... then there is the winter.  But the data must be correct, since the library reported it, right?

8:56 am est 

Re: Jennifer Cabral

 

Interesting to see Candace Nagle has now been replaced by Jen Cabral as the woman most derided on this blog.  This blog is all about rumor, innuendo and name-calling.  To the webmaster: why do you allow such non-sense like the "spit in the food" comment?  What good comes from posting something that may not even be true?

8:54 am est 

Re: Jennifer Cabral
 
What a tangled web we weave!!

She works at one place,, gets very involved with the Jarran issue (which occurred at the Pig) and then after the dust settles, goes to work at the Pig??
8:52 am est 

Provincetown Public Library

 

 

   

 

From: David Panagore Town Manager

November 3 at 6:24pm

 
For the second striaght year, Provincetown has been ranked by Library Journal as the top Library in the U.S. with an expenditure range under $999,999. Not bad library not shabby at all. Congratulations to The Library Trustees, Director Matt Clark and the great team staff and volunteers who made this happen. Third year's a charm--- 
11:31 pm est 

Re: Jennifer Cabral

 

"Jennifer Cabral Has Publicly made Statements on Spitting Into Certain People's Drinks"

Yes, rather comforting isn't it--if she is your waitress and you happen to be on her "spit-into-your-drink" list! It's quite disgusting at even the thought.

11:19 pm est 

Re: Jennifer Cabral
 
"Are you saying that Jen Cabral as hostess at Ross Grill told a customer that she would spit in their drink? Is this true?"

Yes it is true but she didn't say that to the customer, she told others that "if so-and-so comes in I'll spit in their drinks". Nice huh? No, she wasn't working at Ross's grill at the time, that was the job AFTER that happened. Why do you find that so hard to comprehend? It's exactly what she does, and how she conducts herself. She's always been that way. Those of us who have been around around are quite familiar with how she conducts herself.
11:17 pm est 

Tuesday, November 3, 2015

When There is Little of Interest on Your blog
 
Then you post the other more interesting blog. Odd group. Odd ones that want to be more powerful than they are. Quite strange. The outcroppings of Halloween.
1:27 pm est 

Gloria Post/Food Truck

To the person who posted the issue with Kristin Hatch. Here are the facts, Kristin Hatch is not my box office manager, she does not work at the Crown & Anchor now and left the building on or about August 15th or so. She was my box office manager in 2014 and only worked PT for me for some part of this summer of 2015. She does not represent my business nor does she represent my interest before any application before the Licensing Board. She can speak for herself. She and I have not spoken since August 15, 2015. John Yingling and I are FRIENDS and business associates and will continue to be so. We work on many things behind the scenes that many know nothing about nor know anything about our relationship personally nor professionally and I continue to view him as my FRIEND. You people need to get a life and Kristin's biggest mistake in my eyes is that she matriculated at Boston College instead of my alma mater College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, MA.

Rick Murray
1:24 pm est 

Well, My Dears

You are certainly interesting these days. Strong opinions and great relating of facts. Thanks for the postings!
1:17 pm est 

Re: Jennifer Cabral

 

Are you saying that Jen Cabral as hostess at Ross Grill told a customer that she would spit in their drink? Is this true? I doubt it. Why would she make such a comment? The owner would never have permitted it if it really happened.

1:15 pm est 

Re: Jennifer Cabral

 

I don't understand this spitting in the drink comment that JenniferCabral said. Can you please explain to us what happened? I've seen it mentioned before and would like to understand what it is you're talking about.

1:14 pm est 

Re: Kristen Hatch
 
I'm surprised she is still allowed to serve on town boards since she lost her housing to much fanfare last spring. From what I've heard she is using an acquaintance address in the east end while living up in the Boston area getting her Masters in Meddling with a minor in major annoyance
11:21 am est 

Re: Jennifer Cabral
 

"Really, is she unbalanced or just wacky?"

Glad you asked. Growing up here, she's always been both. For the life of me, I don't understand these people who circle around her as if she's some great font of what's good for the town. How can a woman, who never had a real job, never was out in the working world, with no wide rage of experience on anything give advise to the town? Her speeches are mostly incoherent babble blaming all these unseen forces (like the realtors you mention) for all of what she sees as the town's issues. She's just upset because the people who know where she came from, like me, are getting older and moving on. It's all an attention grab, that's all she's ever been about. Can you imagine the thought process that led her to the "spit in their drinks" quote? Think about that for a few minutes. What woman, at her age, would ever say something like that over some political issues? Look, there are people I don't agree with in this town, but I'd never say something like that about anyone. It's not personal, but for her everything is. She's about as "Republican" like that as you can get. Everything is you're for her or against her. So maybe it's just best if we all ignore her and don't give her the attention she's seeking. Then, maybe, when no one's listening anymore, she'll just move on to the obscurity she so richly deserves.
11:19 am est 

From Tuesday, November 3, 2015 Wicked Local Provincetown:

 

Just like the People in Provincetown Think! "Wellfleet inn owners turns keys over to young family Not only will there be new owners of a business that goes back 40 years, the town will have four young girls, all under 10 years old, attending school and adding a youthful presence to the town."

 
10:10 am est 

Re: 99.8% Illiterate

 

Actually, no one posted that the town is 99.8% illiterate.  What was posted is, " 99.8 percent of you functional illiterates couldn't spell your way out of a paper bag." If you read this statement it says that of those that are functionally illiterate, 99.8% can't spell.  It does not say that 99.8% of the citizens can't spell.  I will agree that people that live in glass houses should refrain from rock throwing. 

9:13 am est 

Re: 99.8% Illiterate

 

"To the poster who accused the town of being 99.8% illiterate.  You might want to brush-up on your vocabulary.  Penultimate doesn't mean what you think it means. It means "next to last."  PS.  You just made a fool of yourself."
 

How long did it take you to look that up?  BTW, better a fool than a bully....



 

9:07 am est 

Re: Jennifer Cabral

 

What is up with Jennifer Cabrals disdain for realtors? She keeps referring to them as greedy. Is she so ignorant to think that somehow the greedy realtors trick home owners into hawking their property? Does she think they have some magical powers over the masses? Where they lead the sheep to slaughter? Really, is she unbalanced or just wacky?

9:05 am est 

Kristen Hatch

I'm old enough to remember when a former health agent got a bit tipsy at a local bar and, after being shut off, proclaimed he was going after their license.

Not too long after that he was seen in the unemployment line.

All he did was yell it in a drunken stupor. She actually wrote it?? Bad decision.
9:03 am est 

Re: Too Full of Herself

 "My partner and I have been  going to the Squealing Pig for years and have always loved it.  There is a new host making the experience unpleasant."

Unpleasant? Would you go there if you were told that this hostess said, when she barked at another place up the street, that she would "spit in your drinks" if she saw you there? That's great for business, huh? I certainly hope that no one hears anything like that again. It would be unfortunate for the owners, never mind the regular customers that to go there you have to be part of the hostess's circle or face that sort of "unpleasantness".
11:50 pm est 

Re: Gloria McPherson - Social Blog Comments

 

If You are A Town Employee

then you should act like one--respectful, considerate and limited in what you publicly say. To issue points and positions, using your town position to justify your comments, should not be. We had too much of this when Sharon was town manager and Dan Hoort and his partner and then Jeff Jaran posted and posted and spread much malice and many threats.

Gossiping, chattering, and cattying remarks are not appropriate for a town official to be posting.

11:48 pm est 

Re: 99.8% Illiterate

 

To the poster who accused the town of being 99.8% illiterate.  You might want to brush-up on your vocabulary.  Penultimate doesn't mean what you think it means. It means "next to last."  PS.  You just made a fool of yourself.

11:44 pm est 

Re: Gloria McPherson - Social Blog Comments

 

This is going to ugly fast

Kristin Hatch on Town Talk threatening to go after Bubula's liquor  licences.

As box office manager for the Murray,  she represents the Crown and Anchor on the Licensing Board.  I am surprised Rick Murray is taking on John Yingling.

11:41 pm est 

Monday, November 2, 2015

Dr. Beth

Dr. Beth for President 2020. She'd do a wonderful job running the country. She got the school in order, can you imagine doing the same for our country. We love her!
1:47 pm est 

Re: Town Planner

 

How much longer do we have to wait for the Local Comprehensive plan, which was supposed to be produced by the Town Planner 3 years ago. She is  all over the place imposing herself in areas that do not concern her.

Time to rethink  this position. We have a Town Manager and an Assistant Town Manager, each well versed in town planning.

 

Enough said 

12:04 pm est 

Re: Full of Herself

 

I thought Jennifer Cabral worked at Ross' Grill?

11:54 am est 

Re: Jennifer Cabral

 

Oh, My, My

It seems like Jen Cabral is writing posts about herself. Such a glowing sense of self!

11:51 am est 

Re: Jennifer Cabral

 

Jen Cabral wants to take from those who have to give to those who have not. Her crocodile tears over the plight of the homeless is laughable. She is sitting on an enormous piece of property (lucky her) which more than qualifies for the 40% exemption. If she's so concerned about people not having an affordable place to live, let her make a unit. And for those who are unaware, there already is in place an affordable housing incentive. Just call the assessor or the housing specialist, Michelle. They can tell you all about it. Sad to say, however, very few have taken advantage. So, what makes anyone think that by prohibiting condo conversion, people will suddenly start renting year round. They aren't doing it now.

11:49 am est 

Too Full of Herself

 

My partner and I have been  going to the Squealing Pig for years and have always loved it.  There is a new host making the experience unpleasant. It seems if you are there to have a couple drinks and just chill out you are rushed and almost not welcome if you are not ordering lots of food. I was informed that this new host is an outspoken town resident who has been written about on this blog a lot lately. I hope she doesn't ruin this place for all of us now too with whatever agenda shes working on.

 

11:47 am est 

Re: Provincetown School = Financial Drain

 

People don't want schools here but we're obligated to educate children that are here! The voters gave their Elementary School away for other uses ,so now fix the High School whenever it needs it and use that! Cost Money - Too Bad!! The School Principle is a brilliant woman who gave a detailed presentation at ATM!  She left nothing out including BTU's that some imbecile didn't want to know about!  Well,I did & was glad to vote the project & will continue to vote for the school!!

11:44 am est 

Re: Jennifer Cabral

 

How can people live with their conscience when they speak with such forked tongues? The vicious things they say about citizens here makes them obnoxious! I don't known Jennifer Cabral,but in reading this Blog, wasn't she the one that found all the money in a day to restore the Portuguese Ladies photos on a Pier building? The recent STM was stacked with Realtors to shoot down the Condo article! The article tried to stop the GREEDY Realtors who have already destroyed the Town, from finishing it off!! This Town needs people like Jennifer to be Selectmen to find a balance! Perhaps the Town needs a rental ceiling that limits what everybody can charge for condo rentals,like that being done in other places & owners won't get their rental permits until the reasonable rental charges are complied with which is more affordable! Renting a small condo for $2,000 - $4,000 a week isn't only detestable & greedy,it's insane!! Must be stopped!Then you'll see Condos sold or rented ye!
ar round!

11:42 am est 

Re: Gloria McPherson - Social Blog Comments

 

I Agree

Issues come up and then a "voice" from town hall makes some determination. This is what seems to have happened once again on the food truck at Bubala's. it happens only once a year and it is there for all of us--but soon, the complaints come in. Why? and then this time, we have a certain assertion from Gloria McPherson that these "food trucks" are not allowed. this seems so inappropriate. she is using her town position to determine that this "event" is illegal.

Please, is having fun and enjoying tacos illegal? then there are business owners who can't get enough and would undermine a food truck for its profits!

there is something rather inappropriate of any town employee making determinations on a blog. Why? Because this action has ramifications as I've seen on other issues that Planning takes up as a "cause." Gloria took past actions on other "structures" and then we had proposed changes to Zoning by-laws at town meeting initiated not from the public--but from Planning and the town planner.

If this continues, only if the town planner likes something will it be found to be legal.

11:40 am est 

Sunday, November 1, 2015

Gloria McPherson - Social Blog Comments

 

Town Employees Should Not be "Ruling" on Issues on Blogs

I thought David Panagore was establishing a code of conduct for town employees. If he is, then I don't believe we need a town planner making a "ruling" on a blog concerning food trucks. Now will she and Planning go after anything that is not a rule on zoning and then "determine" that it is not legal. this Grace O'Malley surely attempted to do with any and all storage units now located on any property.

Is this what Gloria McPherson is now going to do about food trucks? This is not her job to make rulings on any facebook/blog. She is not the Building Commissioner and no one should be posting official "ruling" on any blog. That is---IF David panagore is serious about a code of conduct on social media.

3:37 pm est 

Re: Jennifer Cabral

 

Cabral's insights make sense to me. She's well spoken and very smart. Then again, as a female, she'll be flamed before famed. And it's obvious by the postings where Clarence stands.

3:35 pm est 

Re: Jennifer Cabral

 

I will just say that Jennifer Cabral is one of the most thoughtful, articulate and knowledgeable residents of Provincetown. She doesn't need to "practice" her statements at town meeting, she lives and breathes her beliefs. She knows Provincetown, it's politics and participants. Anyone who loves town and understands the challenges from inside the town with proper background, know where Jen is coming from. I support her, and hope that she will consider running for the BOS in the next election. Go, Jen. Thanks for all you do!!

3:34 pm est 

A Personal View

 

This town becomes more of a toxic waste dump every year...and as for discussions of spelling (ooh, and how about grammar?), 99.8 percent of you functional illiterates couldn't spell your way out of a paper bag.  Racist?  Yeah, racist, sexist, classist, hypocritical, superficial and materialistic -- Provincetown is indeed the penultimate example of all these hateful behaviors and more....

3:32 pm est 

Re: Cabral Rebuttal

Anyone can stand up and talk. Anyone. The trick is to make sense, be persuasive, and make a great argument that makes sense. Even that's no guarantee that anyone will be swayed. Cabral did none of those things. She wandered all over the place, and as I recall, said something silly about not condoing her place (what was it? something about on her watch?). If she's so worried about affordability then why not? Or will her house just end up another mansion for the rich at some point in the future when she can't pay the taxes? If she really wanted to do something for the community, she'd do a fantastic job of condoing her house, and selling them off for a reasonable price to people who live and work in town. Anyone can stand up and preach at a meeting. Actually DOING good is the hard part. And, by her speech, she showed herself to be a pretty shallow thinker, and unwilling to actually do anything but whine about heating her place, and mistakenly thinking condo development is the !
evil thing and when the meeting voted, no one fell for that line of reasoning.
11:06 am est 

Re: Miss Cabral

"If Jen Cabral thinks people should give up their property rights in order to provide affordable housing, why doesn't she put her money where her mouth is and take advantage of the new zoning regulations..."

Right on!!

I posted in here a month or so ago regarding housing for the homeless after a local man died on the beach.  I questioned why those that want affordable housing and beds for these homeless locals haven't opened their homes to these people, you know, the extra bedroom or two within the homes these do gooders own. Haven't seen any reports showing homelessness numbers are down. And now we see another coming forward to request more affordable housing, someone that surely doesn't need the entire huge home left to her.

Charity starts at home.
11:04 am est 


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