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Friday, July 31, 2015

Hoort is Surely a Problem

He is the loser and his attitude is unhealthy as a town employee. He believes he has been chosen town manager and is a leadership position. sorry, kid, but you did not win. You lost and your attitude is despicable. You are no team player and should just simply leave.

We will all be the better for such a departure. Consider this an invitation, with a big white bow, to leave. Just as the Welcome Wagon brings gifts when you arrive, we will offer the Get Out of Town Basket filled with goodies.

Can I leave this at your door? It would be my pleasure!
5:21 pm edt 

My Dear Avis:

 

I can identify with you & your daughters sentiments precisely! You have a literary penchant & must write it for your soul & for history! I love your style & your play on words! My sister was a published writer who encouraged people to write,incl. me,but it was not my aim! I'm not going to do a rerun! My time is running out & I want to read your best seller before I "kick the bucket" & before St. Peter's cemetery is condoed over! I'll be included in the Ghost Tours around town 'cuz I'll be able to haunt forever!! I took my neighbor,Art teacher & friend on a ride all around (former Matt Costa's property) where a lot of trophy homes are,& my neighbor asked me what Town we were in?! He's lived in P'Town T least 50 years & didn't recognize where he was! When I look at old Lizzy Livingston's/ Later Josephine & Bill Newman's little gift & icecream shop,it always startles me to see what rose up there! The only positive thing was my other neighbor/carpenter got a years worth of work on the project! All of it is obscene but,like you I still love this place that used to be Provincetown as we remember it! Sometimes I have to research the dustbins in my mind to place what used to be there before! Luckily we have the capacity to adjust to things that are not in our purview to ever have been changed! Nothing is forever,not even us! Write on Avis,it's cathartic ,it's history of what we are all about & we're waiting for more!
Hi Heidi Griggs,you're right too! Hugs to brother Jeff also!

5:20 pm edt 

Re: Marcum Report

 

Yes, Provincetown is Calm and Friendly Now

but it was not at the end of Jeff Jaran's militaristic, high-powered authoritarian regime. It was scary being a resident here if--for whatever reason--you were on the other side of Jeff Jaran and/or Sharon Lynn. they made life miserable for many people.

why should any of else forget? Why deny the past? It was scary for many citizens and this is not how we want to live in this small community.

5:14 pm edt 

Re: Marcum Report

 

Yes, Provincetown is Calm and Friendly Now

but it was not at the end of Jeff Jaran's militaristic, high-powered authoritarian regime. It was scary being a resident here if--for whatever reason--you were on the other side of Jeff Jaran and/or Sharon Lynn. they made life miserable for many people.

why should any of else forget? Why deny the past? It was scary for many citizens and this is not how we want to live in this small community.

5:12 pm edt 

Re: Marcum Report

 

Some of the Information in the Marcum Report Still Horrify

Look at what Jeff Jaran and other police officers were said to repeat often--that "Raphael Richter was a drug dealer and tom Donegan hates cops." Jaran besmirched their reputations and would anything to get Austin Knight elected so that he could maintain his power. Read the Marcum Report and remember how bad it was in Provincetown when Jewff Jaran was in charge. remember also the Squealing Pig incident and how awful Jaran was--he was drunk yet he went after the bar tender and the owner of the Pig.

5:11 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

 

Maybe Dan Hoort Needs A bunch of Lady bugs

to eat up his aphids. Solution to our problem!

5:09 pm edt 

Many Have Not Moved On

Since we have been in a leadership vacuum. when David Panagore is in the town manager office, then some of us can move on. but even now, we have Dan Hoort as housing expert and Housing Proponent of HIS housing idea? who is this creature? He is not empowered to tell us what we need in housing. that he is proposing anything linked to housing is more than ridiculous. this is not his position nor his mandate.

Hoort--you lost. Try silence for at least a few weeks. We do not need new ideas--especially on housing--from you. again, you lost. You were not chosen.
5:08 pm edt 

Knowing When Not to Speak

 

To every person living and working in town who feels the need to belittle a local establishment on fb I say, please stop it. It is hard enough to make a go of it in any business, never ming one that depends on a few months of revenue. Grow up and please shut up.

5:07 pm edt 

Re: Marcum Report

 

 Those you forget the past (or sweep it under the rug)are doomed to repeat it. Can you comprehend that "loooong break"?

A Rat In The Basement

5:05 pm edt 

Re: Marcum Report

 

"I don't see hate and pettiness. I see citizens concerned about this place and posting their positions. and I see some who are more critical and perhaps more insightful than others who post intriguing, pointed insights."

I really do believe that you do NOT WANT to see hate and pettiness.  You call it anything you want to but a "rose by any other name".....

5:04 pm edt 

Thursday, July 30, 2015

Re: Marcum Report

 

"Yes, read the Markum Report and weep. Then smile since Jeff Jaran is gone; Sharon Lynn is gone; Russell Braun is gone; Brian Carlson is gone. And soon, Dan Hoort will be gone!"


Ok, fine.  Jump up and down ans scream "whooeeeee"


Then when the echo is gone please vow that you will never, ever bring up this sorry mess again and post a plea that your fellows do the same.  IT IS OVAH!!! We are tired of it.

How about something constructive.

4:03 pm edt 

Re: Macum Report

 

Maybe the Markum Report Should be a Needed Read for All of US

Maybe it's time to do serious soul searching and realize exactly where this town was in regards militarized actions and threatening behavior by too many of Provincetown's police officers--including of course Jeff Jaran. when a Police chief takes on a militaristic attitude and views himself as top of the regime, any town should quack. it is a terrible mantle to live under. And we all did--even as many may not have realized what was happening on the top floor of the police station and--in the town manager's office. We were all at risk--if Jaran happened to be bothered by you or irritated by you or upset by actions you took on some board. He was our little Putin, Validimir Jaran and when the little emperor dislikes you, you do suffer.

Yes, read the Markum Report and weep. Then smile since Jeff Jaran is gone; Sharon Lynn is gone; Russell Braun is gone; Brian Carlson is gone. And soon, Dan Hoort will be gone!

3:22 pm edt 

Re: Marcum Report

 

Who Is this Person?

I don't see hate and pettiness. I see citizens concerned about this place and posting their positions. and I see some who are more critical and perhaps more insightful than others who post intriguing, pointed insights.

I am so glad we have this blog. It helps us better understand what is happening in this place that we cherish.

12:42 am edt 

Re: Marcum Report

 

Certain ninnies on this blog can't give up the past (Sharon/Jaran/Sharon/Jaran/Hoort/Sharon/Jaran/Candy/Jaran) because they can only hold 4 rotating ideas in their brain a month.

They think the past is still fascinating because it got a rise out of folks years ago. But 98% of the town has moved on, yet we still have to read the same tired crappola from these windbags day in and day out. And, Rat in the Basement, your sparkling insights allude me.

How about taking a loooong break.

12:40 am edt 

Wednesday, July 29, 2015

Re: Marcum Report

"Interesting you want Panagore to read the Marcum Report, especially considering it helped Jaran win his arbitration."

For the love of god, NO, NO it did NOT. What The arbitrator found was that SHARON didn't punish consistently or correctly. Goldie, who was just as guilty, "was rewarded with a promotion" (notice the quotation marks and ask yourself how THAT happened if you want to express some outrage...the guy is a complete disgrace), the other officer was suspended for ONE WEEK, and Jaran got fired. THAT was the problem...SHARON. READ once in a while. Comprehend. Pay attention. And best of all, we just gave a guy as guilty as Jaran the Chief's job! What a town!!!
6:54 pm edt 

Re: Marcum Report

 

We Need An Understanding of Our Past to Know Our future

And the Jeff Jaran and Sharon Lynn intimidating issues are relatively recent. This is not what happened ten years ago. this is our recent past and we need to know it, study it and work to make certain it does not happen again.

And unfortunately, Dan Hoort was part of this intrigue. He is part of our bad past and I want to remember his questionable actions. He is still here--even as the others have fled.

6:51 pm edt 

Re: Who Remembers?

 

There Was Swamp Maple

but you are right Rat in the Basement--you are the only one left using interesting names. Perhaps people accepted anonymous postings more as time went on. but I did like the various names. thanks Rat!

6:49 pm edt 

Re: Marcum Report

 

"Lynne/Jarren/Marcum/Hoort

Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.

Its a dead issue?

Racism is a dead issue, let it go.

The rebal flag is a dead issue, let it go.

Drug addiction is a dead issue, let if go.

Hitlers Nazi war is a dead issue, let it go.

Pilgrims are a dead issue, let it go.

Affordable rentals in provincetown are a dead issue, let it go.

Bill Cosby the rapist is a dead issue, let it go.

Hillary as president (yikes) is a dead issue, let it go.

See my point?"

I was told that rats were smart and could really figure things out pretty well.  I guess that is not universal and include those in the cellar.

Lynn and jaran are gone from PT.  They are no longer here.

Racism and the rebel flag are NOT gone.  They are NOT dead issues.  SO where is the similarity.  Drug addiction is here.  the lack of affordable housing exists in PT, Lynn and jaran do not.  Bill Cosby exists for those he violated without punishment.  he is current news \.  Lynn and Jaran have nothing to do with us now. 

So, NO, I do not see your point.  It makes no logical sense at all.

6:48 pm edt 

Re: Marcum Report

 

These comments are old and tired.
Whoever is monopolizing this blog is bitter and petty.
Stop with the hate. This is bullying plain and simple. If you hate this much you really have a problem.
If you cant move forward then get out of the way so the rest of us can.
I dont care to hear anything more about people who used to work here. Let it go.
Now its moved from hate, to just plain boring.
Let us all hope that the tenor of this blog does not reflect the heart and soul of our wonderful evolving community.
Let us try and  embrace some of the change that is what life is all about.
Adapt or perish and I wish the sad petty haters who take this thing over would move on!!!

6:43 pm edt 

Town Jobs

 

What is going on with these town jobs?

6:42 pm edt 

Re: Marcum Report

"The Marcum Report did Not Help Jeff Jaran

It was his contract kissed by Sharon Lynn allowing mediation upon being fired and then another chance in superior Court. "Had the BOs appealed the mediation, Jeff Jaran would be in jail and serving time for breaking federal voting rights."


Ok, lets stop the silly dramatics about your hobby of hating.  I cannot believe that you believe that a federal voting rights law was violated.  Yes, it went against STATE regulations about election participation by certain government employees, but Federal, c'mon.  Also, jail time for petty BS that would have no effect on the outcome.   ihope that you are never in position to adjudicate this kind of thing.  making up things as you go along is not for law.  Ok on the stage with other dramatics but not in court.
10:11 am edt 

VFW Purchase

Why the heck did we fork over a million dollars for the VFW, seriously. Sell the damn thing and lower my property tax.
10:09 am edt 

Who Remembers?

So Iv been wondering. How many of the original posters to mypac are still with us? Seems like my name is the only one I ever see.

Or who can list some of those names. Wasn't there an "East End Johnny"?

A Rat In The Basement
10:07 am edt 

Re: Marcum Report

Lynne/Jarren/Marcum/Hoort

Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.

Its a dead issue?

Racism is a dead issue, let it go.

The rebal flag is a dead issue, let it go.

Drug addiction is a dead issue, let if go.

Hitlers Nazi war is a dead issue, let it go.

Pilgrims are a dead issue, let it go.

Affordable rentals in provincetown are a dead issue, let it go.

Bill Cosby the rapist is a dead issue, let it go.

Hillary as president (yikes) is a dead issue, let it go.

See my point?

Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.

A Rat In The Basement

10:04 am edt 

Re: Marcum Report

The Marcum Report did Not Help Jeff Jaran

It was his contract kissed by Sharon Lynn allowing mediation upon being fired and then another chance in superior Court. "Had the BOs appealed the mediation, Jeff Jaran would be in jail and serving time for breaking federal voting rights.

The Marcum Report shows Jaran's hostile behavior, threatening actions and illegal acts. Since Kopelman & Paige was involved in overseeing Jaran's contract and providing their legal advice, I would have gotten another law firm to take it to Jaran. Kopelman & Paige were only half-hearted in the defense since they had much to lose themselves. they were implicated.
12:21 am edt 

Re: Marcum Report

Lynn/Jarran/Marcum/Hoort

FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD AND JUST WILL YOU PLEASE PUT A F@$%ING SOCK IN IT??!!

THOSE ISSUES AR ALL IN THE PAST, THE PAST GOD DAMN IT AND IT'S TIME THE TOWN MOVES ON. YOU NEED HUGE AMOUNTS OF MEDICATION  AND THERAPY AND I DO HOPE YOU FIND HELP BUT FOR THE GOODNESS OF THE TOWN AND THOSE THAT READ THIS BLOG WILL YOU PLEASE MOVE ON TO PRODUCTIVE COMMENTARY AS OPPOSED TO YOUR ENDLESS RANTINGS ABOUT ISSUES THAT DON'T EXIST ANYMORE??!!!

START YOUR OWN DOWNER BLOG AND LEAVE THE REST OF US, THOSE LOOKING TO THE FUTURE WITH POSITIVE IDEAS, ALONE!!

FOR CHRISTS SAKE, MOVE ON DAMN IT.
12:19 am edt 

Re: Marcum Report

"People in town, voters in town, were threatened with the use of police power against them for having put up Tom Donegan signs. they were followed, Jeff Jaran was contacted while at home and they put mighty pressure on certain people in town. This is fact and is presently part of a law suit against the police. Forcing voters to take down campaign signs and putting others up at their home is illegal. You cannot use police authority against voters. But Jaran did and these are serious facts."



How wonderfully dramatic.  Who cares now.  they are gone.  Give it up move on to your next windmill.  
12:16 am edt 

Tuesday, July 28, 2015

Re: Marcum Report
 
You are Missing the Point

People in town, voters in town, were threatened with the use of police power against them for having put up Tom Donegan signs. they were followed, Jeff Jaran was contacted while at home and they put mighty pressure on certain people in town. This is fact and is presently part of a law suit against the police. Forcing voters to take down campaign signs and putting others up at their home is illegal. You cannot use police authority against voters. But Jaran did and these are serious facts.
3:13 pm edt 

Lack of Empathy For Small Businesses

Very inconsiderate of "family equality" to be giving away free temporary tattoos at the fire station. Where is the empathy for small local business ? Several shops in town sell temporary tattoos. This is normally a busy week for it.
3:12 pm edt 

Re: Marcum Report

Interesting you want Panagore to read the Marcum Report, especially considering it helped Jaran win his arbitration.  The Town did not use the report because it helped Jaran, and it was Jaran who called the investigator as his witness.  And let's not forget we taxpayers had to foot the bill not just for the investigation, but for Marcum to testify on Jaran's behalf!  Careful what you wish for.  
3:06 pm edt 

Re: Marcum Report

"instead of Austin Knight signs that Jeff Jaran and Sharon Lynn wanted up. they illegally applied pressure to have people in town vote as they wanted. using your authority to threaten citizens about who they are planning on voting and using police power against them is not only immoral--it is illegal. and this is what Jeff Jaran did with the support of Sharon Lynn."


Believe me, I am thrilled that Lynn and Jaran are gone.  But, can we stay with fact instead of a made-up world?  No one went into the ballot area and forced anyone to vote a certain way.  Don't get dramatic.  You lose credibility.  The signs were all part of mentality that we all abhor.  Jaran and Lynn proved that they were two bit characters that were way over their heads.  That's it. leave the drama to the stage.
11:18 am edt 

Re: Jim Golden

It's time to sign the Contract

What is he waiting for? itsy bitsy issues and miss the over-riding fact: they are selecting you as chief. Take it now
before it is too late. Wisdom here would help. Delaying for what? More vacation days, a few extra dollars. You already received the big one: no residency requirement.

It's time. It's now or never. Pick up the pen and sign.
10:11 am edt 

Re: Marcum Report

Perhaps you Missed How Koumenelis Threatened Town Residents when They Put Up Donegan signs

instead of Austin Knight signs that Jeff Jaran and Sharon Lynn wanted up. they illegally applied pressure to have people in town vote as they wanted. using your authority to threaten citizens about who they are planning on voting and using police power against them is not only immoral--it is illegal. and this is what Jeff Jaran did with the support of Sharon Lynn.

We had two Police chiefs--Jeff Jaran and Sharon Lynn. She never stopped being and acting as Police Chief. It was a terrible time with people being followed and many threatened.

It is good that this past is past. the Markum Report should b e a first read for David Panagore.
10:08 am edt 

Re: Jim Golden

"Jim, they voted for You

So please sign the contract. Don't look for petty gifts. You are chief. That is good but make it good.

This is no time for self-serving insignificant issues.

Do you want the position? then sign."



So what is this all about?  The BOS did not try to do him a favor.  They appointed what they thought was the best person for the job..  Who are you to say what is an insignificant5 issue?  What petty gifts is he seeking?

i hope that Panagore reads this crap so that he knows he shark tank in which he has chosen to swim.
10:05 am edt 

Re: Jim Golden

Carrie would have made a better chief, I'm sure she still wants it
10:03 am edt 

Monday, July 27, 2015

Jim Golden

Jim, they voted for You

So please sign the contract. Don't look for petty gifts. You are chief. That is good but make it good.

This is no time for self-serving insignificant issues.

Do you want the position? then sign.
8:36 pm edt 

Silence is Golden

Perhaps the true reason the contract has not been signed is Golden wants to be held harmless.

Truth be told, moving so quickly to hire him before we have something other than an acting town manager was a huge mistake.
8:33 pm edt 

Marcum Report

"He needs to know what we went through with Sharon Lynn and Jeff Jaran and what we want behind us. He will see misuse of power, militaristic policing, and illegal actions to control town elections."



He surely will read the report.  He also will read this and see first hand what he will be up against as soon as he offends people like you. To use the word "control" in referring to the efforts to have cops take political signs is way over the top. It was far from controlling.  Improper and apparently illegal attempting to influence voters is more like it.  Please be aware that there was no meddling with votes or vote counts.  You truly insult our voters by implying that the stupid sign stuff would influence intelligent voters.  Jaran could not take away their right to vote for whom they chose. 
8:28 pm edt 

So Wrong..

If Jim golden waits until David Panagore is in power, he may lose his appointment by the BOS since the town manager has the power to hire his or her Police chief. If I were golden, I would sing now. It's rather unrealistic to put off signing looking for this and that. Please, just sign.
8:26 pm edt 

Re: Police Chief Contract Negotiations Update

"Interesting! Jim Golden better get over himself and sign the contract the BOS is willing to give him. What's the hold up? You won't be getting ANY of the protections the previous police chief did and you had to expect that. Our new town managers contract was signed faster than this. And to the previous posters comment, you are very lucky to even get the job of chief in the first place."


Yes, you are very interested, but not interesting.  What do you mean "had better"?  is that a threat? An ultimatum?  Who are you to say that?

I'll bet that this is personal with you.  Just like all the fawning posts about Panagore that mask their hate for Hoort with love for someone they don't even know. 

Unless you know all the details about the negotiations between the BOS and Golden, you are just making noise.  Are you privy to the sticking point(s)?  I'll bet not.  Empty vessels make more noise than full.
8:24 pm edt 

Dan Hoort

Trust me, Hoort likes you even less than you like him.
8:22 pm edt 

Re: Police Chief Contract Negotiations Update

Interesting! Jim Golden better get over himself and sign the contract the BOS is willing to give him. What's the hold up? You won't be getting ANY of the protections the previous police chief did and you had to expect that. Our new town managers contract was signed faster than this. And to the previous posters comment, you are very lucky to even get the job of chief in the first place.
12:19 pm edt 

Marcum Report

I Hope David Panagore Reads and Re-Reads the Markum Report

He needs to know what we went through with Sharon Lynn and Jeff Jaran and what we want behind us. He will see misuse of power, militaristic policing, and illegal actions to control town elections.
12:18 pm edt 

Re: Police Chief Contract Negotiations Update

Re: Contract

It should not take a rocket scientist to figure out that both sides are taking their time to avoid the cluster we just went through with the previous chief and administration. It might not be a bad idea to wait until the new TM is on board so that everyone is on the same page.
12:15 pm edt 

Police Chief Contract Negotiations Update

This is on tomorrow's BOS meeting. Really? what in the world is stopping this contract from being a signed, sealed and delivered? It took only a few days for David Panagore to sign.

Pray tell, what is keeping Jim Golden from putting pen to paper? Wait any longer, my friend, and you will find someone else in charge of your future. What the hell are you waiting for?

You are lucky to have been chosen. Sign and make this happen now.
12:09 am edt 

Anti Dan Hoort

Yes, count me in. this man has been a problem for many in town. anti him? Yes, I surely am and am thrilled that this problematic man is not now our town manager. It is so good knowing someone other than Hoort will be in the top position here. I am relieved and welcome a new face, a person with experience and someone who can lead this town.
12:08 am edt 

You Are But Off the Mark

We are glad that David Panagore is our new town manager. We do not need to know this man in and out to be pleased that we have him here. His Ted talk was great; his ideas are good. We need someone new and he is our new town manager.
12:06 am edt 

Re: David Panagore

"So glad he is here and so content that he is our town manager."


Here we have the standard sophomoric hurl about the wonders of a town manager who's hand hasn't yet touched the doorknob to his office. I sincerely hope David is as bright a bulb as is heralded.
12:05 am edt 

Sunday, July 26, 2015

Re: Dan Hoort

You are very proficient as Finance Director.
However you are extremely destructive as an interloper.

The pain is not worth the gain. Your immaturity is your down fall.
Your lack  of restraint personifies your character. You are flawed as
a town asset accordingly, the pain is not worth the gain.
8:54 pm edt 

Housing Trust
 
We already Have a Housing Trust Proposed and Funded

So what is Dan Hoort up to? Starting another idea, proposing another idea similar to what Finance committee has already proposed and funded.

This is twisted. Just do your job and we will all be better for that. Just a meddler it seems.
8:43 pm edt 

Bear Month?!!

I used to feel ambivalent about Bear Week in Provincetown but not anymore. This one theme week this year brought in so many people that now I wish that July would become Bear Month. Thank you to everyone that helped to make Bear Week such a great boom to my business.
8:41 pm edt 

Re: David Panagore

"Many People I Talk to Are Happy David Panagore Was Chosen as Town Manager"



Is this a Panagore fan club or an anti Hoort club.  Lots of very weird stuff about how much Panagore is loved and will save us from all our troubles.  I suspect it is really an Anti-hoort club since not one poster know Panagore and he has no experience in a town like ours. 
8:37 pm edt 

What's Wrong With This Picture

The following table compares 30 popular destinations in New England this summer. The prices shown reflect the average rate for each destination's cheapest available double room for the time period spanning July 1 through August 31, 2015.
  1. Provincetown (MA) $247
  2. Kennebunkport (ME) $234
  3. Newport (RI) $226
  4. Chatham (MA) $225
  5. Portland (ME) $223
  6. Boston (MA) $213
  7. Cambridge (MA) $207
  8. Martha's Vineyard (MA) $189
  9. Ogunquit (ME) $187
  10.  Falmouth (MA) $164
  11.  Old Orchard Beach (ME) $157
  12.  Providence (RI) $157
  13.  Hampton Beach (NH) $153
  14.  Bar Harbor (ME) $153
  15.  Mystic (CT) $137


16. Eastham (MA) $137

17. Portsmouth (NH) $135

18. Burlington (VE) $134

19. Boothbay Harbor (ME) $124

20. Hartford (CT) $124

21. Laconia (NH) $123

22. Hyannis (MA) $121

23. Stamford (CT) $121

24. Yarmough (MA) $116

25. Lincoln (NH) $114

26. Manchester (VE) $113

27. North Conway (NH) $108

28. New Haven (CT) $103

29. Stowe (VE) $101

30. Groton (CT) $92

8:10 pm edt 

Here's What's Scary--

Look at the public e-mails and you will see Dan Hoort in constant dialogue--if that is the right word--with Candace Nagle and Jeff Jaran when both were exerting much threatening behavior and instituting a militaristic attitude and dress in Provincetown. Hoort was part of this misuse of authority to help his and their friends and then hurt those who took any position against either Sharon Lynn or Jeff Jaran. this was a most dangerous period in Provincetown's history and when finally Sharon Lynn was run out of town and Jeff Jaran was stripped of his power, we could all breath easier.

But Hoort was part and parcel of this inside group that hurt many here. I fear that he is done with his dirty deals.
1:11 pm edt 

David Panagore

Many People I Talk to Are Happy David Panagore Was Chosen as Town Manager

Interesting how many people are pleased with the selection. they voice optimism with change and see Hoort as part of the old team and for some as part of the old cabal with Sharon Lynn, Jeff Jaran, Candace Nagle and Kim Hurd. They see David Panagore as free from these past linkages that hurt our town and damaged many residents.

I like what I am hearing on the street!
12:09 pm edt 

Re: Here's The Point of Hope

"David Panagore as Town Manager. so glad he is here and so content that he is our town manager. We have needed a new person in this position for years... for but now, he is now here."



More of this stuff like Jonesboro.  You don't even know the guy yet are ready to anoint him. Why?  Yah, we have needed a good TM for a long time and hopefully this one will work out, but good lord, the silly adulation before he even starts the job.  
10:39 am edt 

Re: Here's The Point of Hope

David Panagore as town manager. so glad he is here and so content that he is our town manager. We have needed a new person in this position for years... for but now, he is now here. Thank you for saying "yes."
10:38 am edt 

Re: Welcome and Welcome Again to Our New Town Manager

"It is a new day and I am so pleased that he has signed the contract and he is ours! We have a chance to move forward and to have leadership on many key issues. this is an exciting time and I see David Panagore as heading up our new direction into a better and brighter future.

Welcome, Mr. Panagore!"


I too say "welcome Mr. Panagore"!! But, I must temper that with the knowledge that I really can't "see" him transforming town into a glorious problem free paradise.  Exciting?  Not really, unless you have a new definition of exciting.  In two years time there will be very little change.  Gardner has done a very good job in spite of having a BOS of lightweights and a FinCom made up of meddlers. The best we can hope for is plodding competence.  Miracles occur elsewhere. 
10:35 am edt 

Saturday, July 25, 2015

Here's The Point of Hope

David Panagore as Town Manager. so glad he is here and so content that he is our town manager. We have needed a new person in this position for years... for but now, he is now here.

Thank you for saying "yes."
11:04 pm edt 

Captain's Choice Restaurant

OMG!!!!!!!!!  The new Captain's Choice Restaurant in North Truro is a great new restaurant.  It seems as if Chris King has the midas touch as everything he touches turns to gold and this latest venture will not disappoint. His partnership with Chris Townsend is helping to revitalize North Truro Center. Clean, quaint, and casual''this little eatery looks like its here to stay!!!!!!!
9:55 am edt 

Re: Your Posts Count!

"Let's get rid of anyone that is still sticking to what caused all the recent problems and begin to put some new air into the town."


Great thought.  Now for the execution.  Can't run out of town on a rail.  Got no rail.  Any other ideas on getting rid of them.  How about a strong person takeover with laws that take their property and don't allow them to live here?  I guess all you folks with the convictions of rectitude can get together and come up with some way to own the town.
9:53 am edt 

Re: Oh, That is a Very Scary Photo

"This red licorice has just gone limp"



Please stop. Your posts are creepy.
9:52 am edt 

Welcome and Welcome Again to Our New Town Manager

It is a new day and I am so pleased that he has signed the contract and he is ours! We have a chance to move forward and to have leadership on many key issues. this is an exciting time and I see David Panagore as heading up our new direction into a better and brighter future.

Welcome, Mr. Panagore!
9:49 am edt 

Re: Bikes in Provincetown

"I always find it amusing that around this time every summer, people start writing letters to the Banner, complaining on Facebook, etc. about how dangerous all the bicyclists are making it for all the pedestrians walking in the middle of the road.

Am I the only one who sees the humor here? Not to mention the complete lack of logic and self awareness"



I thought that this screed was the first shot fired in the car/bike/pedestrian skirmish. 

Sounds anti-pedestrian to me.
9:47 am edt 

Friday, July 24, 2015

Your Posts Count!

OK everyone, now that we have a new Town Manager it's important that we not let the OLD group of select business owners, rich people who live in other towns, and generally power-hungry big fish in small ponds resume business as usual. SPEAK UP! POST HERE! JOIN THE BEACON EVEN! Write editorials! Let it be known that we're not going back to "business as usual"! We have REAL problems and REAL issues that we need to solve to make the town a thriving and healthy year-round COMMUNITY.Let's get rid of anyone that is still sticking to what caused all the recent problems and begin to put some new air into the town.

SPEAK UP!!!
8:25 pm edt 

Thursday, July 23, 2015

Re: Bikes in Provincetown

"Hold on, there!  Get a grip! Just a minute! The original rant here railed against people walking on the street.  It had nothing to do with whatever you are responding to.  Take a deep breath and re-read all the back-and-forth about this.  Then let us know what you think after you know what others have said."


Actually, the original "rant" as you call it, was from someone commenting on people on Facebook complaining about bicyclists on Commercial St., not pedestrians. Apparently you have not read all the "back-and-forth" but please, don't let that keep you from making a condescending and uninformed reply.

Perhaps you should "get a grip" and "take a deep breath."
10:27 pm edt 

Re: Oh, Uh, ah--the Dan Hoort Herd

I do Like and appreciate the Herd/Hurd Posting

rather interesting and to the point. there is a Hurd mentality and this offered a key insight. As someone posted, Hoort is engaged in a Hurd mentality. Very good analysis.
2:33 pm edt 

Provincetown Banner July 23, 2015


TOWN LEADERS AT ODDS OVER "SAFE HARBOR" STRATEGY
By Peter J. Brown 
Banner Staff

PROVINCETOWN — Town Planner Gloria McPherson and Acting Assistant Town Manager and Community Housing Specialist Michelle Jarusiewicz are questioning the selectmen’s decision to seek “safe harbor” status in connection with the proposed development at 350 Bradford St. They worry that Provincetown might be seen as too risky an environment for real estate development.

Now they have been joined by Kristin Hatch, the Provincetown Housing Authority’s representative on the Community Housing Council. Hatch wants to see an open discussion about the safe harbor strategy, which she now opposes because of its complexity, among other things.

The strategy is a defense against the state’s Chapter 40B statute, which enables developers to bypass local zoning rules if at least 20 to 25 percent of the units have long-term affordability restrictions. A town can claim safe harbor status — and thus prevent developers from taking advantage of Chapter 40B — if it has reached the “10-percent threshold,” that is, if 10 percent of its housing inventory qualifies as affordable. Alternatively, a town may show that 1.5 percent of its habitable land area (with some exclusions) is used for affordable housing.

The state Dept. of Housing and Community Development (DHCD) says Provincetown has 169 subsidized housing units, amounting to 8 percent of its inventory, and is thus 42 units shy of the 10-percent threshold. This leaves the 1.5 percent of habitable land area as the most likely route to safe harbor. Provincetown would be the first community to make it to the 1.5 percent threshold in recent years, according to the DHCD.

Selectmen Raphael Richter and Cheryl Andrews have asked for data to support a safe harbor claim to enhance the ability of the zoning board of appeals to negotiate with BPJC LLC, the developer of the proposed 24-unit project at 350 Bradford St. in the East End. The developer is said to be seeking Chapter 40B approval from the state, for which the project is eligible. But BPJC has not filed a formal 40B application. If it becomes a 40B project, the development will not be subject to town ordinances and regulations, and thus the town’s ability to influence its scale, for example, will be eliminated almost entirely.

“Most other towns don’t want affordable housing the way we do,” said Jarusiewicz.

“They often do not want these developments [like 350 Bradford St., which includes six affordable units] to happen at all. We aggressively seek it. The people that make the decisions about the financial tools available for the creation of affordable housing say that safe harbor is a big red flag.

“The state looks for community support both in words and in money,” Jarusiewicz added. “Provincetown has always been very strong [in this respect].” She noted that the state is still working on guidelines that may not be ready in time for a planned workshop to address these and other concerns.

Towns that claim safe harbor often work with developers pursuing 40B projects known as “friendly 40Bs.” McPherson said that, even after safe harbor is achieved, “40B is a useful tool for waiving zoning requirements that would otherwise limit the ability to develop affordable units on a particular lot. For instance, if the lot area supports only three units, but the town thinks five would be appropriate on the site, 40B would be used.”

“Chapter 40B projects are welcome in Provincetown and will be into the future,” said Andrews. “Some members of our staff have suggested that, once we claim safe harbor, there will be some kind of lessening in our attractiveness to developers or even to the state for assistance. I say we are almost at 10 percent anyway, so let’s begin to plan for life after 10 percent and maintain our attractiveness.

“Clearly, the [Board of Selectmen] is committed to the construction or development of subsidized rental housing at multiple ranges of income, whether we achieve 10 percent in the next two years or in the next ten,” Andrews added.

Zygmunt Plater is one East End resident who opposes the project at 350 Bradford St. He sees a role for “friendly 40Bs” that produce “friendly negotiations between towns and developers rather than adversarial wrangling.” At the same time, he wants the town to have its safe harbor in hand.

“The 1.5 percent safe harbor issue is going to be increasingly important,” said Plater. “The arguments we are starting to hear — that the town will not be able to attract affordable housing if it establishes safe harbor numbers — are disturbing. Implicitly they are arguing that only defenseless towns — towns that abandon their legal protections against developers’ adversarial overrides — will get affordable housing. That does not square with reality.

“Getting the state board to accept a town’s numbers virtually always takes a confrontation,” Plater added.

Above all, said Andrews, she supports flexibility.

“Some projects may be appropriate for one area of town, and not as appropriate for other areas,” she said. “Particularly as projects get closer to our waterfront, scrutiny should increase. Our waterfront is everything.”

10:48 am edt 

Re: Bikes in Provincetown

"These things are all common sense and important for maintaining the safety of yourself and others. If you are suggesting it makes sense to allow tourists to ignore rules of basic safety because you stand to gain monetarily by doing so, I think you're the one living in a fantasy land."



Hold on, there!  Get a grip! Just a minute!

The original rant here railed against people walking on the street.  It had nothing to do with whatever you are responding to.  Take a deep breath and re-read all the back-and-forth about this.  Then let us know what you think after you know what others have said. 
10:32 am edt 

Provincetown Banner - July 23, 2015


Selectmen OK contract with new town manager
By Peter J. Brown 
Banner Staff

PROVINCETOWN — The transition to a new town manager is under way with the approval on July 20 of David Panagore’s contract by the board of selectmen. He will start his job officially on Aug. 31.

“Panagore brings experience in two areas, economic development and financial management, to the table,” said Tom Donegan, chair of the board of selectmen. “These are each vital. I was particularly impressed with his experience working as a municipal official with both the state and federal governments. While we have a good track record of receiving grants for various capital projects, exploring other government opportunities is important.”

Donegan said that Panagore has proven himself a capable manager who is known for helping town employees do their best work “while making sure the taxpayer needs are being fully met.”

In his response to questions posed by the Banner, the selectmen, and Town Finance Director Dan Hoort, Panagore said that he intends “to spend the first 90 days meeting and actively listening to the community, every person I can buttonhole to sit down.”

“All communities are complex, and I have just begun to understand the complexities here,” Panagore said via email. “We all like to share our ideas, including me, but in this instance, in the first few months I need to listen, I mean really listen, bounce ideas I have heard and be willing to change my mind and opinions the more I hear and see.”

He described Provincetown as a community that “has been through a lot in the past two years, and for many people it’s very front of mind. I have learned a little of that history and a lot more about the challenges: the demand for housing and the demand for job growth, to name two. I also heard a lot about the need for increased communication, something I intend to focus on. There have been a lot of thoughts and responses that I am digesting.”

When the selectmen asked him to describe his previous small-town experience, Panagore mentioned the two years he spent in the western Massachusetts town of Wendell. “There is a great deal small towns like Wendell and Provincetown have in common, isolated winters being one, and there are critical differences,” Panagore later told the Banner. “The summer lifestyle is one difference. I have lived and worked on the Cape many times, including a summer with the Cape and Islands district attorney. As for managing the influx of tourists, the overall approach is proper planning and one day at a time. In this, my background in theater and event planning comes in handy when you are part of the team that ensures up to 50,000 people smoothly enter, enjoy and depart Provincetown.”

“I have not truly begun any inventory of town infrastructure,” he said. “As part of my interview process, I met with the DPW director and water superintendent for 30 minutes, so my understanding of the details is very limited at this early juncture. The town has been very farsighted in how it has approached its water and sewer needs.”

Panagore intends “to review the town’s capital program, ensure projects are tracked using program management tools, meet with the consulting engineers and understand the division of responsibilities, even any and all bond schedules, enterprise funds and projections.”

He said he believes that the town’s staff generally performs at a high level. “I have liked what I have seen. The last 18 months have been in many ways a struggle for staff for a wide variety of reasons, while [Acting Town Manager David Gardner] has brought a steady hand and helped rebuild confidence in town operations,” said Panagore. “I have learned enough over time not to make snap judgments, especially about staff, especially about human lives. Over the first 60 to 90 days I will, through a variety of ways, observe, challenge and review staff, both operations and individually, before taking any needed action.”

Panagore comes to Provincetown from New Haven, where he supervised the turnaround and vast improvement of that city’s parking-related operations. He described to the selectmen in some detail what changes he made, both to the operation as a whole and to various facilities there. His background in parking should prove useful here.

“Over the past three years,” he said, “I have learned a great deal about parking and transportation. It has redoubled my interest in ‘complete streets’ and providing all forms of travel and transit. While I hope to be able to use my experience to improve operations, the size of the operation itself becomes an issue mostly as it relates to overlapping capacities and the complexity of back-of-the-house operations.”

When he is able to take time off from work, Panagore looks forward to biking and kayaking here, among other things.


10:31 am edt 

Re: Oh, That is a Very Scary Photo

"Candyland looks like a half-melted lollipop. Rather drippy and unkempt. This red licorice has just gone limp--a meltdown in Candyland!"



I recall a post from way back about Nagle owning you and a few others.  SHe is deep inside your head like an implant and dominates you in your silly hate.
10:13 am edt 

Re: Bikes in Provincetown

"Ok, deny reality.  Live purely.  Give up our only source of jobs for most people.  or, maybe you have a solution to sidewalks and tourists.  let us know"


Actually, yes, I do have a solution:

Watch where the hell you're going, don't text or talk on your phone while walking or riding your bike, be aware of others including bicyclists, pay attention to the officers directing traffic and pedestrians at crosswalks, look both ways before entering the street, use the directionals on your car and walk on the sidewalks whenever possible.

These things are all common sense and important for maintaining the safety of yourself and others. If you are suggesting it makes sense to allow tourists to ignore rules of basic safety because you stand to gain monetarily by doing so, I think you're the one living in a fantasy land.

When you see some little girl get hit by a car because she and her parents weren't paying attention as they meandered through the street, I hope you take comfort in the fact that she was injured so you could make a few more bucks selling t-shirts.
10:12 am edt 

Police Station

What happened to the Police station Post that was sent in on 7/19/15? Didn't pass the screen test obviously,which means truthful postings are under selectinve scrutiny if it doesn't match the truth of some!
12:33 am edt 

Wednesday, July 22, 2015

Candyland Leaves Much to Be Desired

"It is red licorice with a limp; lollipops half-melted; tootsie rolls as a statement of fact."


Call your mother. You need fashion advice.
10:48 pm edt 

Oh, Uh, ah--the Dan Hoort Herd

Maybe you should write instead: the Dan Hoort Hurd.

Then you can connect Hoort to Hurd, Jaran, Nagle and Lynn.

The Dan Hoort Hurd. Perfect!!
10:46 pm edt 

Re: The Dan Hoort Herd

"Sad that intellect is limited as it is with your poor uninformed posting."



Funny, that's exactly the way I feel about you. And now I must inform you MC Esher is my grand uncle. I have an original sketch of his to prove it. So watch it when you make presumptive statements on blogs. You never know who's watching.
10:44 pm edt 

Re: Bikes in Provincetown

"The key is to co-exist. Complaining helps nobody."


Both sentences are right on the mark.  Nice. 
10:42 pm edt 

Re: Bikes in Provincetown

"Ah, yes. Once again, money trumps logic. Welcome to Provincetown!"


Ok, deny reality.  Live purely.  Give up our only source of jobs for most people.  or, maybe you have a solution to sidewalks and tourists.  let us know>
10:40 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Pier Corporation

"Well the pier corp  once again has shut down fishing on the pier because somebody keeps making a mess instead of finding the person that making the mess they decide to close it right down so all the kids  now can't go fishing so what is there for kids to do in this town nothing absolutely nothing way to go pier corp other smart move maybe you should have your employees monitor the fishy at night and find out who is making the mess"



This is the kind of nasty BS that panagore will face and bail before long.  This post has nothing to do with kids or fishing.  It has to do with the FinCom enemy-- the Pier Corp.  This is the kind of post that divides.  This is the kind of meanness that caused us to have zero fully qualified candidates for tM.  This post is vile and dishonest.  It does nothing to improve the town , the kids or the pier.  It only serves to prove how evil some people truly are. 
10:39 pm edt 

Oh, That is a Very Scary Photo

Candyland looks like a half-melted lollipop. Rather drippy and unkempt. This red licorice has just gone limp--a meltdown in Candyland!

Looks like a portrait of Dorian Gray!
10:36 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Pier Corporation

Well the pier corp  once again has shut down fishing on the pier because somebody keeps making a mess instead of finding the person that making the mess they decide to close it right down so all the kids  now can't go fishing so what is there for kids to do in this town nothing absolutely nothing way to go pier corp other smart move maybe you should have your employees monitor the fishy at night and find out who is making the mess Way to go Rex McKenzie what they should do is when commercial Street gets dirty  they should  shut that down  this town government really amazes me every day  Bring back the fishing Rex McKenzie have your employees do there job find out who's making the mess  and stop hiding under the rock
3:12 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort Comments

"When the finalists that were chosen decided not to move forward,"


Wow, does this scream at a major problem here.

Time after time was get finalists bailing on us. 

Crappy place to work.  Low pay.  High expenses.  Dysfunctional BOS.  Power crazy FinCom. Nasty political atmosphere.  Townies against artsy types.  Townies against gays. Far from so much.  
1:45 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort Comments

Goonies? Obviously, It takes One to Know One

there must be a  mirror around. Take a look. Yikes!
1:42 pm edt 

Re: Bikes in Provincetown

"Could you imagine the impact on tourism if the cops did not allow walking on the streets?"


Ah, yes. Once again, money trumps logic. Welcome to Provincetown!
1:41 pm edt 

Re: Bikes in Provincetown

"Could you imagine the impact on tourism if the cops did not allow walking on the streets? Like it or not, annoying or not, it is part of the PT package." 


Right. And the same applies to bicyclists. And motorists. We all have to share the road. My point was, if you fear for your life because of bicyclists, you do have the option of walking on the sidewalk. Bicyclists don't have that option and their daily activities are just as important as yours. The key is to co-exist. Complaining helps nobody.
1:39 pm edt 

Face Book Photo

Hillary Looks good but...

the other one needs radical work. She aged rather fast and would better standing behind Hillary.
1:38 pm edt 

Re: The Dan Hoort Herd

How Little You know of Escher

and of human beings and the forces that propel them. Sad that intellect is limited as it is with your poor uninformed posting.
1:35 pm edt 

Re: Bikes in Provincetown

"Have to agree with this person. I've lived here many years and my primary means of getting around is walking. I've never had a run in with a bicyclist because I use the sidewalk. The street is for cars, bikes and clueless tourists."



I agree in theory, but, as a practical matter, life is not always consistent with the theoretical.  During most days, in season, there is simply not enough space on the sidewalks to accommodate the pedestrians.  In fact, as we all know both the street and the sidewalk can be jammed so how would it be possible to get everyone off the street onto the sidewalks.  Could you imagine the impact on tourism if the cops did not allow walking on the streets? Like it or not, annoying or not, it is part of the PT package.  
10:42 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort Comments

"and we've given Clarence's goonies material for their next hysterical postings"


I don't think anyone who writes here does it for Clarence. We just want people to know what's going on and he happens to provide the space for us to do so. So in order to clear this up here's ACTUALLY what happened:

When the finalists that were chosen decided not to move forward, they needed time to pick someone else (Cheryl's letter). What they did was pick Hoort as a finalist because they couldn't just have one finalist and they knew he'd say yes. So all of you people screaming about Hoort missed the point about what was going on. I even think Hoot missed the point. Some of you should get out more often, or at least give people credit for being smarter than you think they are. They made their final decision, he accepted, and the rest goes on. So let's help the guy pick the best people he can to make his administration successful, and help him to work on driving the people who work at town hall to excellence. If not, he should use his prerogatives to hire to accomplish that. Oh and, btw, he's just the town manager not a member of the board of selectmen. It's not as big a deal that we hired him as you think, unless you think that the people at town hall aren't being managed correctly or being productive enough because that's his job...to drive what the selectmen want by making sure the people at town hall execute and follow through.
10:40 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort Comments

Dan Hoort thinks he's good to go and is starting his insulting, self-centered, and selfish ways again. He just does not get it, and it will not take long for his new boss to see through the disruptive influence this man is on Town Hall and the spirit of the employees there. His time is coming to an end. Thank the Finance Gods!
10:37 am edt 

Tuesday, July 21, 2015

Dan Hoort Comments

"The lies just keep coming from Clarence."

"
Clarence filters what is posted so he is responsible for the posts. What I find hard to understand is why the community thinks it's ok for a member of the finance committee to lie."

"It's water under the bridge, DP has been hired. I can't think of a single employee who is concerned that DP is going to replace them. Keep in mind it is very tough to get people to work here. I think the major concern is how long will he stay here and is he the right fit. The jury is still out and that won't be known for a while"

"and we've given Clarence's goonies material for their next hysterical postings"

"It's going to make for a lovely FinCom meeting on Monday"
11:35 pm edt 

Re: Bikes in Provincetown

"Cars must travel in the road. Bikes must travel in the road. Pedestrians can and should use the sidewalk (the others cannot.)"
 

Have to agree with this person. I've lived here many years and my primary means of getting around is walking. I've never had a run in with a bicyclist because I use the sidewalk. The street is for cars, bikes and clueless tourists.
11:07 pm edt 

Re: The Dan Hoort Herd

"Even Escher would be upset with your pretense at knowledge. It is but an echo of nothingness."


What? Escher was a graphic artist, not a philosopher of truth. How about getting on good old Google before you whisper sweet pseudo intellectual nothings in our ears?   
11:03 pm edt 

From: A Rat in the Basement

Someone suggested over there that a ranting post on here might be mine. From my very first post years ago, till this one I have always signed my name. I do not rant.

A Rat In The Basement.
11:02 pm edt 

Re: David Panagore

"Be gone with the old grudges and underminings of the towns government."



There's a laugh. Do you really think that Provincetown has been free of grudges and undermining? You must be a mollusk hanging in a grassy seabed far far off shore. And blind at that. 
10:58 pm edt 

Re: Majority of the Staff Felt That Hoort Was the Most Qualified??

"...here's hoping that Panagore can rise to the occasion and deal with the nasties in town and the bumblers on the BOS and FinCom."



I seem to recall the major bumblers in the BOS we had prior to the current BOS.  Remember theirs and Sharon's proposal for the 14 million dollar politics station.  Top that one!
3:25 pm edt 

Right On

The prices in town are just too high and we are now pricing ourselves out of many tourists and vacationers' income. The hotels and B & B's are frightfully high, the prices for meals almost exorbitant, and the parking is high.  There are fewer people here this year and it is symbolic of the changes in tourists' desires.  We have priced ourselves out of the market that we had for many years. We have become too comfortable and too greedy.

My analysis may not be right but I do know that fewer tourists are here this summer.       
3:24 pm edt 

Re: David Panagore

"you speak with MaryJo Avellar and Rachel White. They know the history and the politics of the town well."


Good God NO !!!!

Move away from history and start anew! Be gone with the old grudges and underminings of the towns government. Do the job you were hired to do, don't go back and do it like "the old days"!!
3:21 pm edt 

Hoort vs Panagore - And the winner is?

If anyone Was or Is Desperate it is Hoort and Not Panagore

We are fortunate to have David Panagore as our new town manager. He is a man who applied for this position. He is not desperate. But Hoort--well, that is quite another issue.
11:32 am edt 

I See Many Empty Spaces in the Public Parking Lot

Perhaps the $3.50 an hour is just too much. We upped the hourly rate but I think we decreased interest in day trippers coming here. I'd like to see the comparison of June and then later July of this year compared to last year.

I'd reduce the parking hourly fee to $2.75. We'd be better off and we would invite more retail sales. We should be welcoming to tourists and lowering the hourly rate would help.
10:51 am edt 

Re: David Panagore

Let Me Add My Welcome

to our new town manager--that does sound good, doesn't it?--David Panagore. Welcome to Provincetown. We look forward to your leadership and your ideas and your presence here.
10:50 am edt 

Re: Majority of the Staff Felt That Hoort Was the Most Qualified??

"Most considered Hoort unqualified for town manager. He never ran a town except for the behind the scences work he did for Sharon Lynn and Jeff Jaran."


One side says most then the other side says the same thing.  Each has no proof at all.  From what I read Panagore also has no experience running a MAss town.  Big cities in CT, yes.  Lots of staff and support.  Last job was running traffic dept. 

What behind the scenes work did Hoort do?  Was it illegal?

I am not sure that Hoort could do a good job, but neither am I very sure that Panagore, who seems desperate  for a job, the best possible person.  The job is totally unwanted by really qualified people. 

here's hoping that Panagore can rise to the occasion and deal with the nasties in town and the bumblers on the BOS and FinCom.
10:46 am edt 

Re: David B. Panagore - Provincetown, Town Manager Select

"Congratulations and let us move forward into our future. He brings hope, energy, and strategies for this town. Such good news."



Panagore may very well be the best choice of a very poor field, but where, in heaven, did you come up with the BS about "hope, energy, and strategies"?  Do you know the guy?  His last job was running a parking dept.  Where does your idea about his being the next coming come from? I hope that he can get things going in the right direction, but being our savior is a stretch given his experience.  
10:43 am edt 

David Panagore

Congratulations! Welcome to our town and may you succeed. If you really want true background I suggest you speak with MaryJo Avellar and Rachel White. They know the history and the politics of the town well. Please read here what Darla wrote. She speaks the truth and summed it up very well.
10:42 am edt 

Re: Bikes in Provincetown

"If the directions are to stop, those directions include EVERYONE.  However, I see on a daily basis walkers, runners and bikers ignoring the police's directions to stop. Of these three groups, the bikers' actions are the ones that could be the most dangerous to public safety since they can go at the highest speed."


Cars must travel in the road. Bikes must travel in the road. Pedestrians can and should use the sidewalk (the others cannot.) Therefore I submit that pedestrians are the ones that are most dangerous to public safety since they are ignoring the pedestrian walkway and choosing to use the street which is designed for motorists and bicyclists.

How do ya like them       ,       ?
10:39 am edt 

Monday, July 20, 2015

Re: Bikes in Provincetown
 
Like cars, bikers are responsible for heeding the traffic police directions at all times. 

If the directions are to stop, those directions include EVERYONE.  However, I see on a daily basis walkers, runners and bikers ignoring the police's directions to stop. 

Of these three groups, the bikers' actions are the ones that could be the most dangerous to public safety since they can go at the highest speed.
11:27 pm edt 

David B. Panagore - Provincetown, Town Manager Select

He Begins august 31, 2015: Panagore Starts to Work for Us

that is great news. He is our town Manager and the deal is done. He signs either tonight or tomorrow and David Panagore heads our town.

Congratulations and let us move forward into our future. He brings hope, energy, and strategies for this town. Such good news.

Welcome to center stage. Welcome to Provincetown.
9:07 pm edt 

Re: Majority of the Staff Felt That Hoort Was the Most Qualified??

Really, the Majority of the Staff Felt that Hoort Was the Most qualified??

Really? Fantasy reigns. Collective illusion once again. Most considered Hoort unqualified for town manager. He never ran a town except for the behind the scences work he did for Sharon Lynn and Jeff Jaran. That is quite different. That is sleeze and surreptitious acts.

No, few were for Hoort who were not part of his dark cabal. As the decision occurred, he was not selected and the right person, the more qualified person, was selected as our town manager.
8:45 pm edt 

To: David Pangore

Welcome David Panagore!

You've got your work cut out for you:

Sharks in the water, malcontemps on land.


My advice: stay clear of everyone who wants to be your friend.

Visit every business in town before the town shuts down in October.

Enjoy the beauty Provincetown provides.

Take no prisoners.

Love,

Darla
8:13 pm edt 

Jacob Marley and Dorian Gray

Mr. Hoort, by your very actions and exclamations, you give substantiation to the wisdom of the BOS decision.

The "Gloves come off", what an offish response to disappointment. You seem hell bent to blame
others for your failures. By your associations and immaturity you substantiate your lack of grace
or compassion and the correctness of the BOS selection.

Your obsessive participation in "Social Media"reveals and  defines your true character and the nature of your soul, which is characterized by the chains you forged link by link, year by year. Your trail  of derogatory and libelous acrimony gives stark testimony to your failure as a substantive personage.
Like Jacob Marley, you are bound by the very weight of the links  of your very making.

Why would you even think you ever had a chance to achieve the seat of power, for which you have been denied? Objective reflection would make obvious the delusional nature of your supposition.

The friends and associates you have chosen have no  power to affect your or their aspirations. Provincetown rejects you and them, and neither Truro nor New Hampshire have any skin in the game that can overcome that reality.

To wit you  stand or fall on the quality of your own character.

In truth you stand alone and wanting; a picture most corruptively foul.

8:10 pm edt 

The Dan Hoort Herd

La Verite Est Retarde

     Exactement. "Truth is an illusion and a collective invention of some groups.

     What they say, they believe. Truth is so far away it is almost as far as another planet."


Truth--see Howard Zinn. Truth, listen to Sartre, to Tillich, to Merleau-Ponty. But no, you would but only listen to the drivel of your friends. So be it--and thus you live in a circular world of illusion. Even Escher would be upset with your pretense at knowledge. It is but an echo of nothingness.

Signifying nothing!
7:11 pm edt 

Re: Dan Panagore

Are You serious?

We do not know David Panagore and yet you would want us to start to identify his shortcomings? 

You must be a Dan Hoort fan club person. Your idea is ludicrous.

You simply want to undermine the top choice. sorry Harry but Panagore won. He will be our new town manager and thank goodness for this!
7:03 pm edt 

Re: Bikes in Provincetown


Ok,so the original poster finds it crazy how each year the bike
Debate begins, true,four posts so far.

Wait for September headline... Banner year for businesses!
7:02 pm edt 

Re: Dan Panagore

"Some people are good at numbers; others are good with people. Hoort is a numbers guy and he knows the ups and downs of numbers, percentages, projections. but David Panagore is a person guy, someone who instills confidence, hope and who brings vision. vision is always much more than numbers and projections."


Exactly how has Panagore shown that he brings vision.  I hope that he does, but why are you so sure.  He was in charge of parking in a CT city.  Sort of like Dominic.  Vision?
7:00 pm edt 

Re: Dan Panagore

Why are you posting only one-sided comments regarding the town manager search?

When someone points out that the majority of staff felt Hoort was more qualified and a better fit as Town Manager why do you refuse to post it?

When someone questions why Panagore has never been able to stay in a job for very long, why do you refuse to post it?

Why do you refuse to post any negative comments regarding Panagore, but have spent the last two weeks defaming Hoort's character?

This post was written and submitted at 4:39pm on Monday, 07/20/15.
6:58 pm edt 

Re: Hoort vs Panagore

"Provincetown needs someone who can work well with all residents, not someone who caters to a few and excels at excel"


I hope Panagore works out, it would be so embarrassing for the BOS if he doesn't.  I can tell you the opinion is nearly universal with the staff that they think he is a mistake.  The personal interactions on Tuesday morning were very odd.
6:55 pm edt 

Re: Hoort vs Panagore

Let Me Weigh In Here

Some people are good at numbers; others are good with people. Hoort is a numbers guy and he knows the ups and downs of numbers, percentages, projections. but David Panagore is a person guy, someone who instills confidence, hope and who brings vision. vision is always much more than numbers and projections.

Provincetown needs someone who can work well with all residents, not someone who caters to a few and excels at excel!
12:09 pm edt 

Re: Dan Panagore

Why are there no posts that discuss Panagore's possible shortcomings?  Is clarence once again being a Fincom filter on opinion in town? Pro-anybody that is not Hoort?
12:05 pm edt 

Sunday, July 19, 2015

Re: Rumor Has it -

What are you the riddler? Rumor Has it -

What employee overspent their budget and when seeking reimbursement to themselves for travel used a committee's budget to pay for it?

Give us the name of the committee? is the employee a specialist?
11:13 pm edt 

Congratulations Again to David Panagore

What a great choice! So glad this talented man was selected. Panagore made the other candidate look parochial, insular and of quite average intelligence. Panagore has a brilliance Provincetown needs and wants. We are so fortunate he was selected.
11:12 pm edt 

Sounds Good to Me

Seize the right opportunity and then leave. We will all wave goodby. For Hoort, time to leave? Good. Obviously a man of great allegiance.
11:10 pm edt 

Rumor Has it -

What employee overspent their budget and when seeking reimbursement to themselves for travel used a committee's budget to pay for it?
8:43 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

"Mr.  Hoort, was a victim of  his past association and participation in and with the previous administration. I would advise Mr. Hoort not to  over react to the outcome, as there  is always tomorrow.

Additionally, if indeed Mr. Panagore should stumble, Mr. Hoort would be in the position as being given  first consideration. Accordingly, my advise to Mr. Hoort is to temper his actions both officially and socially."



I don't think he's worried about it.  From what I hear that ship has sailed.  Mr. Hoort would not consider the position anymore unless there was a change in the Selectmen.  He has already told a few co-workers that he is looking at other options and will leave when the right opportunity comes up.
8:41 pm edt 

Re: Bicyclists in Provincetown

A Commonsenseless poster recently said people walking in the street complain about being hit by bicyclists! They should!!Older bicyclists are usually responsible& careful! Young bicyclist workers late for work are crazy & will plow you over or smash into cars,especially as the car makes a turn,bicyclist keeps coming breaking car mirror & keeps on going! Police can't do anything unless they witness it!

How can you make such idiotic blanket statemsnts? Not all older bicyclists are careful and not all younger ones are reckless. And what about the "commonsenseless" pedestrians who walk right into bicyclists and/or cars because they don't bother to look before entering the street? I ride my bike slowly and am very aware of surrounding traffic and yet I have still been walked into by pedestrians on at least a dozen occasions in the past few years! Once I was fairly seriously injured.

Don't assume your experiences speak for all or most. You can complain about bicyclists all you want, but trust me, they have just as many legitimate complaints about pedestrians and motorists. We ALL have to share Commercial St. in the summertime. Get used to it.
6:44 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

Dan Hoort ran a respectable race and there is  no need for him to perceive not winning
as a negative reflection on his potential.

From a resume aspect Mr. Panagore was the superior  candidate. From our 
personal knowledge of Mr. Hoort we knew his capabilities and were comfortable
with his demonstration of those faculties and we also knew the chinks in  the armor.

Mr.  Hoort, was a victim of  his past association and participation in and with the previous administration. I would advise Mr. Hoort not to  over react to the outcome, as there  is always tomorrow.

Additionally, if indeed Mr. Panagore should stumble, Mr. Hoort would be in the position as being given  first consideration. Accordingly, my advise to Mr. Hoort is to temper his actions both officially and socially. 

Reflect of the fact that  the choice was not a vote by the  populace; it was a vote by the Board  of Selectmen. No amount of Blog commentary swayed the members of the BOS. Their decision was  made in light of all  the facts presented as they perceived them.

Hold your head high and get on with the work at hand and  you will see positive benefits.
6:03 pm edt 

7th Annual 5 Walk/Run Aids Support Group of Cape Cod

Good Luck to all Participating in the 7th annual 5 Walk/run Aids Support Group of Cape Cod.

It's a great day for the walk or the run!
12:05 pm edt 

Summer in Provincetown

Hope everyone is enjoying these Absolutely Fabulous days

It is surely summer in Provincetown. Happiness and joy to all.
12:03 pm edt 

11:30 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

Time to get off the let's bash Dan Hoort bandwagon people. The fact that someone is willing to stay on as a town employee, with all the nonsense created by pathetically sad social media bashing, earns my respect.
11:29 am edt 

Re: Bicyclists in Provincetown

A Commonsenseless poster recently said people walking in the street complain about being hit by bicyclists! They should!!Older bicyclists are usually responsible& careful! Young bicyclist workers late for work are crazy & will plow you over or smash into cars,especially as the car makes a turn,bicyclist keeps coming breaking car mirror & keeps on going! Police can't do anything unless they witness it!
11:26 am edt 

Let's See if He Can Behave Himself

Maybe he can. but then maybe he can't. Maybe he will return to who he was before running headlong into the town manager campaign. Odd, quite so, that he thought he had a chance of being selected and entering the dark, ofuscating office of Sharon Lynn. He believed like a convert who believes that he--yes he the chosen one-- would be town manager.

But, sadly, he was not the chosen one. Only an almost ran, a bridesmaid to the wedding party that marches to the alter without him.

11:17 am edt 

Saturday, July 18, 2015

Re: Dan Hoort

If Dan Hoort is so sure that He should Have been Chosen Town Manager

and he may be only one of a few who even think this--then maybe he will apply to other towns and see if they would want him.

Maybe Reheboth Beach--oh, sorry Sharon Lynn is there but maybe the towns nearby.

that would be a great solution to the Dan Hoort problem.
12:39 pm edt 

Friday, July 17, 2015

Bicyclists in Provincetown
 
I always find it amusing that around this time every summer, people start writing letters to the Banner, complaining on Facebook, etc. about how dangerous all the bicyclists are making it for all the pedestrians walking in the middle of the road.

Am I the only one who sees the humor here? Not to mention the complete lack of logic and self awareness
9:52 pm edt 

Whale Week

The most idiotic week idea ever.
1:11 pm edt 

FinCom re Housing Trust
 
FinCom Has Devised a Great New concept for Housing

when others are helping increase the profits of developers and people like Ted Malone--look at the $800,000 CPA funds for what he calls Stable Path--and the former $250,000 for Shankpainter road and so much before that--FinCom has come up- with a plan for affordable housing that directly helps those who need housing.  after years and years and years of "supporting" affordable housing, what do we really have?  Rich developers--and that includes the newer ones at the old Michael shay. It's all about profits with a pretense of using a few affordable units to destroy the environment, exceed scale, and eliminate historic structures.
12:30 pm edt 

Thursday, July 16, 2015

Vernon Diannah Porter

Congratulations not only to Mr. Panagore but to the entire Board of Selectmen and the selection committee for coming up with the finalist. I, too, look forward to working with him.,
11:44 pm edt 

FinCom re Housing Trust

As FinCom sorts through the details, its members seem neither disappointed nor distracted by the voters' decision in the May election to reject their request for an initial infusion of $500,000 to finance the trust.

Canizales seemed pleased by what has happened thus far, stating at the FinCom meeting that we are off to a strong start

And therein lies the problem. Why is FinCom even exploring this? Because we have no town manager reigning them in. Great. It's the new cabal running over the town's wishes, as if they are the kings of the land. What a dangerous time we are in.
9:19 pm edt 

Provincetown Banner


New police station design challenges political line-drawing


By Peter J. Brown

Banner Staff


PROVINCETOWN — As the building committee enters into detailed discussions about how the proposed new police station on Jerome Smith Road will actually look, the board of selectmen appears destined to confront the awkward political realities surrounding the new station’s actual cost.

In joint meetings between the two committees, and in separate sessions, a noticeable disconnect has emerged between what the selectmen want to approve in the $5 million to $6 million range, and what the building committee is grappling with at present.

In 2013, the estimated project cost was $7.5 million for a 13,615 square foot building at the site of the old VFW building on Jerome Smith Road. Based on the 2013 estimates, the committee came up with a revised project cost of approximately $6.3 million, subject to inflation, for a station of 11,060 square feet.

In early 2014, the town was advised by architectural firm Kaestle Boos that an escalation factor of 3.5 percent per annum should be applied.

“We are not in the $5 to 6 million range. I do not know how we can get it down without further radical surgery [to the design],” said building committee chair Tom Coen.

Creating a 21st-century headquarters for the Provincetown Police Dept., in which it can operate safely and efficiently for at least the next four decades, if not longer, is no easy task. With the cost escalation factored in, the price range in question could potentially be well over $7 million by the time it is presented, if it is presented, at a future Town Meeting.

“We are trying to come up with an acceptable compromise. We were pretty comprehensive as we were going through the building design [during the last meeting on July 1],” said Coen. Acting Town Manager David Gardner and Acting Police Chief Jim Golden attended that session.

The building committee went over many of the details of the conceptual design of the building carefully. Still, several key aspects of the design plan remain unresolved.

“The site issue is still open, and the egress, and setback [of the building itself], along with the number of parking spaces on site, still need to be established,” said Coen after the meeting.

Golden has watched all of the non-police-specific operational space get cut out of the building, including the community room and public space, and the parking department’s permits and operations area. Parking enforcement remains, as does a slightly downsized animal control element.

The building design has been cut so lean that there is very little, if any, room for future expansion. Accommodating even modest growth down the road seems farfetched because the VFW site itself offers little flexibility.

“Once the site is improved and the building is built, reconfiguring it would be difficult given the use of all available land,” said Golden later. He prefers a site plan that allows for more on-site parking.

“[As for allowing] vehicles to fully circulate the property, the bottleneck in and out is of slight concern, but some concessions need to be made in order to make this happen,” Golden added.

Architect Paul Kelly was also at the meeting and volunteered to discuss his ideas for space planning. He presented building floor plans and a site plan as well.

“The proposed smaller building is 11,100 square feet, which is about 2,550 square feet less area [than a previous design]. This proposed plan would leave more land area for housing on the VFW site,” said Kelly, referring to a desire by many town leaders to build affordable housing on the VFW site as well.

Kelly agrees with cost estimates of approximately $7 million. He is also satisfied with the parking and traffic circulation for both the housing and the police station portion of the VFW site.

“It would be great if there was more room for parking next to the police building, but there will be a parking lot across Jerome Smith, just like the parking available across from the existing Shank Painter facility,” said Kelly, who sees a need for space “around the proposed police station for some landscaping and a buffer area between the police functions and housing.”

Determining exactly how much land is left for the housing portion of the site needs to be resolved quickly.

3:40 pm edt 

Provincetown Banner


Draft legislation penned for rental housing trust


By Peter J. Brown

Banner Staff


PROVINCETOWN — Town counsel John Giorgio has completed a five-page draft of what is hoped to become a special act, approved by the state Legislature, establishing a new housing trust to help create year-round marketrate rentals in town.

The draft is the next phase in the process begun by the finance committee when it proposed the rental housing trust at Town Meeting in April, and voters approved it.

“The shortage of year-round market rate rental housing is beyond remedy ... and is not being dealt with effectively by operations of private enterprise,” Giorgio’s draft states. “It is the purpose of the trust created by this act to aid the town of Provincetown in the speedy and orderly development of year-round market rate rental housing for the residents of Provincetown and to thereby stimulate economic development.”

Giorgio explained the purpose of the five-page draft in an accompanying e-mail that was sent to Acting Town Manager David Gardner and other town officials. The draft uses “many of the same concepts and language contained in [existing legislation] which authorizes towns to create an affordable housing trust through local adoption,” he said.

The more the special legislation resembles existing legislation, he added, the fewer questions and concerns are likely to arise for legislators. “It should be noted, however, that one of the benefi ts of special legislation is that the town can propose new and novel ideas, so we are not bound to include all of the powers and duties of an affordable housing trust under [existing legislation].”

Giorgio said that this is a deliberate attempt to move the general court in a certain direction with respect to resolving the housing crisis in Provincetown.

“Section 1 contains the findings that we want the general court to make in order to establish the ‘public purpose’ of the trust,” said Giorgio. “It is important that these draft findings be reviewed carefully to make sure they are accurate and that they provide an adequate description of the housing crisis in the town.”

As an example of previous creative special legislation, Giorgio noted the Provincetown Public Pier Corp., which was established more than a decade ago to address and reverse the steady deterioration of MacMillan Pier. It was deemed a matter of some urgency and set up to function separately from town government.

Unlike the Pier Corp., the rental housing trust would be set up as “a subdivision of the town subject to financial oversight by the town’s finance department, and trustees are subject to the charter and bylaws of the town,” said Giorgio.

Gifts and grants of money and property could be made to it. It would also receive all revenue from the sale or lease of any trust property and any rental income generated by properties in its custody. The town treasurer would be the custodian of the trust fund.

The four categories of those who would receive maximum preference to receive the rental units include current Provincetown residents, municipal employees, employees of local businesses, and households with children attending Provincetown schools.

If there are more eligible applicants than available rental units, a lottery system would be used to select tenants.

Further, the draft states, “The trust may enact regulations establishing additional preference criteria based on income eligibility.”

In his e-mail, Giorgio said he specifically did not include any mechanism for dissolving the trust, adding that if the town were to decide that the trust was not fulfilling it statutory mandate, another special act would be required to dissolve it and liquidate its assets. “Given the complexity and controversial nature of the provision in the pier legislation regarding dissolution, my recommendation is that we not make any reference to dissolution in this legislation,” he said.

Following a discussion of the proposed special legislation at a FinCom meeting in June, the town's finance director, Dan Hoort, revealed an alternative housing proposal that involved the possible use of a real estate investment trust (REIT) “that people can invest in [and get] a rate of return that appeals to people’s altruistic side.”

FinCom chair Michael Canizales said that Hoort’s plan might emerge as a useful addition to the FinCom trust plan. “We can brainstorm this during a public hearing,” he said.

FinCom member Louise Venden said that REITs are heavily regulated, but “there are people who want to invest in this,” and that the community group known as Provincetown 365 was exploring it too.

As FinCom sorts through the details, its members seem neither disappointed nor distracted by the voters' decision in the May election to reject their request for an initial infusion of $500,000 to finance the trust.

Canizales seemed pleased by what has happened thus far, stating at the FinCom meeting that “we are off to a strong start,” although the details of the draft await more discussion by FinCom at its next meeting.

Public hearings are also planned starting later this summer, Canizales said.

2:41 pm edt 

Provincetown Banner


Panagore Top Pick for New Town Manager

David B. Panagore made it through the final round on Wednesday night as the Provincetown Board of Selectmen voted 5-0-0 a...nd announced that he was their top choice to become the new town manager. Following their vote, the selectmen immediately went into executive session to initiate contract talks with Panagore.
“[Selectman Raphael Richter] and I met with David last night after the Executive Session to review the terms of an offer. We are preparing a draft contract and will present that to him later this morning. The offer, is of course, contingent on successful contract negotiations and completion of certain background checks,” said Board of Selectmen Chair Tom Donegan.
The selectmen took very little time to make up their minds after he and one other finalist, Provincetown Finance Director Dan Hoort, faced their last round of questioning by the selectmen. Panagore is currently the executive director of Park New Haven – the New Haven (CT) Parking Authority.
Both were praised as ideal candidates for the job. However, Panagore's breadth of experience in particular certainly impressed the selectmen. He also spoke to his administrative prowess, and outlined how he often faced adverse circumstances in his career which involved working for towns large and small in Massachusetts and elsewhere.
2:17 pm edt 

Well, Well, Well
 
this is absolutely great news! the new town manager will bring a sense of hope and vision to this town. and we need it given what we have all gone through.

We can celebrate!!
11:06 am edt 

Re: Now I Don't Have to Leave Town

"Now I Don't Have to Leave Town

Panagore and not Hoort. Oh, yes, this is a breath of fresh air.

Amazing given what could have easily happened."


DITTO
11:03 am edt 

Thank you, Thank You David Panagore

Now we have a chance to take this town to where it should be.

I am so impressed that they have chose you.

Welcome, welcome. I could not be any happier.
11:00 am edt 

Breaking News!! Breaking News!!


We have a new town manager. It is Panagore. Bravo!

Glad that he was selected.

Now I can breath easily.
10:25 am edt 

Re: Now I Don't Have to Leave Town

"Panagore and not Hoort. Oh, yes, this is a breath of fresh air.

Amazing given what could have easily happened."


Yes there is a god!
10:22 am edt 

Sad State of Affairs

Remember when the Provincetown wise men (different from the old men of Truro) thought living in Provincetown was so great and such an honor that the salary of the Town Manager could be slashed?

We see how well that worked out.

The arrogance and folly of the newer cabal has cost Provincetown time, money and quality of life. A sad state of affairs, ain't it?
10:21 am edt 

The Bears

Thank God for the bears, at least there is a break in the negativity of the town for a week while they are here!
10:19 am edt 

Re: Request for information

"I would like to know how much the 2 on going lawsuits that were brought against this town that are newly elected chief of police  is named in is costing us."



How do you know that they are ongoing?  If they are ongoing it probably means that so far they have cost us attorney's fees but no judgement.  

Why do I have this funny feeling that this has nothing to do with the money but everything to do with hating the chief?  kind of obvious to me.
10:17 am edt 

Wednesday, July 15, 2015

Now I Don't Have to Leave Town

Panagore and not Hoort. Oh, yes, this is a breath of fresh air.

Amazing given what could have easily happened.
8:01 pm edt 

Town Manager

"Don't kid yourself, if you have Hoort as Manager you have Lynn. They are from the same mold. Do you not think she's coaching now from afar. Really!"



Really??  Just kidding, right?  or, do you believe in martian invasions also?  Maybe you could share the entire fantasy with us.  
4:24 pm edt 

Request for information

I would like to know how much the 2 on going lawsuits that were brought against this town that are newly elected chief of police  is named in is costing us. I believe as a tax payer in this town it is my right and every bodies right to know but my many calls to town halls all lead to dead ends. It's the same thing over and over again promises of return phone calls. Who out there can tell me what I have to do to this information? What happened to all this so called transparency all this selectmen promised us!!!!
4:23 pm edt 

Town Manager

Don't kid yourself, if you have Hoort as Manager you have Lynn. They are from the same mold. Do you not think she's coaching now from afar. Really!
1:02 pm edt 

Re: Town Manager Job and Our Political Environment

In the immortal words of Pogo:

"I have met the enemy and he is us".
1:19 am edt 

Tuesday, July 14, 2015

Glad They Are Visiting Grave Sites

Perfect place for them! Onwards to others who are buried under your feet.  How exciting does life get?
10:08 pm edt 

How Sad, How sick

Call in the votes. Now Dan Hoort is a townie!! really! What a craping mess.

It is disgusting and I am ashamed for this town that is too unaware of its own disgrace.
10:06 pm edt 

Re: You've Got to be Kidding - Another Cluster F.........!

"The position of town manager is a desirable position. the problem is how we search for a candidate. This search committee apparently didn't know what to do."



You know nothing about this, else you would never post something like this.  The MMA is the association for these folks.  Go to their site.  Look at the listings.  And then post what you did.  PT is a disaster that no one wants.  Every manager in Mass and beyond knows that we have an opening.  They did not apply and it had nothing to do with knowing how to conduct a search. You list the opening in the ONLY place, the MMA site.  Every manager in mASS and most in the USA see it.  The job sucks because of bad politics expensive living and low pay.  Very easy.
9:53 pm edt 

Future of Provincetown - Recipe for Failure

Why does anyone worry when the foregoing receipe for disaster awaits us?


Reality Recipe:

Heat the oven to August

Mix in two candidates for the Town Manager position
Add the Acting Town Manager (who doesn't want the job)
Set aside the Acting Town Manager (who wanted the job, but was overlooked)
Blend in the fact there are fewer year-round residents each year

Pour into a baking dish and sift in the following ingredients:
A dash of salt
Five selectmen, each of whom has a favorite recipe up their sleeve (not written down)
Spoon in some arrogance, self-indulgence, and a whole lot of me, not you
Slowly add a crumbling infrastructure
Whisk in a lack of vision
Pour in dwindling resources

Bake until done
9:45 pm edt 

Re: You've Got to be Kidding - Another Cluster F.........!

"Why can't you accept the idea that the job is totally unwanted by any reasonably outside candidate. Low pay,"


I More than Disagree.

The position of town manager is a desirable position. the problem is how we search for a candidate. This search committee apparently didn't know what to do. the pay is not low and the job remains desirable. Just get the word out and make decisions in a timely fashion. the delays and delays are a big part of the problem. the search has been unprofessional and therein lies the problem.
11:11 am edt 

Re: You've Got to be Kidding - Another Cluster F.........!

"Two candidates and one of them is D Hoort. Go back to the 51 candidates and find someone else. someone is making a mockery of the process and of the town itself."


Oh!! Great idea.  I guess that the committee intentionally skipped over some qualified folks.

Why can't you accept the idea that the job is totally unwanted by any reasonably outside candidate.  Low pay, residency requirement and nutty politics have given our little haven the label of most toxic of places to manage.  The word is out among these people. 
9:53 am edt 

Re: You've Got to be Kidding - Another Cluster F.........!

I Agree: What  a Mess

and it did not have to be like this. Getting a town manager is nothing more than getting a college president of a small college. It is not difficult but here---you would think it is impossible.

so after all this time and after all the candidates, we face only tow--and one of them is no one other than our finance director. I'd rather Michael who handles our lawns and buildings than this person. gosh--bring back Sharon Lynn. Bring back Keith Bergman.

this is not rocket science. How bad can this town get?

We are on the brink.
9:50 am edt 

Monday, July 13, 2015

You've Got to be Kidding - Another Cluster F.........!

It's Sad that town manager's Position has become a Game

Two candidates and one of them is D Hoort. Go back to the 51 candidates and find someone else. someone is making a mockery of the process and of the town itself.

We deserve better.
5:43 pm edt 

Commercial Street Bike Accidents

It's Not surprising that there are More Bike Accidents and Pedestrians Being Hit

When Commercial Street was paved, the size of the street diminished and more room was given to sidewalks. I think it was purposeful so that it would force the closing of Commercial Street. It is much harder to navigate during tourist season since there is less space to work with.
10:13 am edt 

Building Violation

                took off the filter on the roof, and is spewing burnt grease contaminating the air in town. MAJOR HEALTH CODE VIOLATION !!!


Webmaster Comment: If this is a fact, why don't you report this to the Health Board or Building Commissioner.
10:10 am edt 

Re: Pier Corp and Kerry Adams

"It amazes me how someone praised Mr.Adams up one side of the pier and down the other side but apparently could not put their name. I find that funny and I can't help but also at the same time find it suspicious. Got to wonder if Mr.Adams posted that himself."


It amazes me that someone could post this up one side and down the other and apparently could not not put their name.  Which is worse the English or the hypocrisy?
10:04 am edt 

Sunday, July 12, 2015

Camp Light Bulb
 
Congratulations to all Involved in Camp Light Bulb

What an amazing group of campers. what a great experience for so many adolescents. What a dedicated group of Provincetown residents who give so much.
6:05 pm edt 

Re; Pier Corp and Kerry Adams

It amazes me how someone praised Mr.Adams up one side of the pier and down the other side but apparently could not put their name. I find that funny and I can't help but also at the same time find it suspicious. Got to wonder if Mr.Adams posted that himself.
10:40 am edt 

Saturday, July 11, 2015

Re: Information Request

"i wonder how many people,like me, really care about  of what you are in favor.  To tell the truth it never occurred to me that your opinion mattered"


Good points.  Why do we post and why do we read this crap that is nothing more than opinions that don't matter.  Clarence, what do you say?  Does anything matter in this world? Is this blog have any value?  whose opinion matters
9:10 pm edt 

 
"You just might not have the skills to do this. Oh, my, how tragic."



So right.  So please help the helpless, please.  Just cut and paste one.  
9:08 pm edt 

Re: Information Request

"Does anyone have Oatsies real name, employment or address available ?"



Does anybody have your real name, employment or address?  Or why would anybody care?

Lots of strange posters here that can't seem to understand having different opinions on things without getting all bent and personal.
9:05 pm edt 

Re: Hillary Clinton

It seems Clinton's campaign is doomed to make the same mistakes as in 08.  The picture that went viral of her campIgn staff roping the media like cattle so they wouldn't have access to get, repugnant.  Some just never learn...I have to vote for her, but she's making it mighty difficult.
9:04 pm edt 

Re: Information Request

I think that Oatsie Rogers is

Carl Worthington. He lives in Truro and also DC.  some may know more or otherwise. this is all I know. Since you asked...
1:07 pm edt 

The Pier Corp. & Kerry Adams

While enjoying a leisurely stroll down MacMillan Pier yesterday, I happened to catch Kerry Adams, the current Chair of the Pier Corp. board. We discussed a number of pier related issues and I have to say that I was struck by how knowlegeable Mr. Adams is about the pier. He answered my questions very thoroughly and was very engaging while doing so.

So many of our volunteer board members don't seem to get the credit they deserve for their tireless service to our town. I'd like to take this opportunity to say thank you to all of you who serve on our Town boards and especially Mr. Adams for his kindness and for taking time from his day to answer my questions! Though I never really had an opinion about the pier's management, I now believe it is very capable hands! Thanks again Mr. Adams for your patience and kindness with this old man!
11:06 am edt 

Information Request

Does anyone have Oatsies real name, employment or address available ?
11:04 am edt 

Do Not Drink the Water

That is my help here. Madness reigns so----don't drink the water. Too many people for too many years have done this.

Don't do it!!
11:02 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

Oh, Ugh! Yikes'

  and still you say--Dan Hoort is a breath of fresh air.  clearly, anyone of us must ask you: what the hell are you smoking? Are you a coke user? Are you mentally disabled? are you institutionalized?

If yes to any of these questions and maybe, just maybe, we might understand you're insane response.
11:01 am edt 

Dan Hoort vs Sharon Lynn

If it is between Dan Hoort and Sharon Lynn

I would vote for Sharon Lynn.

He is almost the worse candidate.

and yet they chose him.
10:59 am edt 

Re: Hoort Didn't Just Use Social Media

Harry --cut and Paste Your own E-mails

The hoort to lynn to jaran e-mails are there to see. Cut your own e-mails and connect the dots. No one is making this up. Look Research. See. Know.

You just might not have the skills to do this. Oh, my, how tragic.
10:56 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

"I want to make one thing perfectly clear. I am not in favor of Dan Hoort as Town Manager."



i wonder how many people,like me, really care about  of what you are in favor.  To tell the truth it never occurred to me that your opinion mattered
10:53 am edt 

Friday, July 10, 2015

From the Boston Herald

Hillary Clintons Ptown Snub Leaves Fans Cold

If you are wondering why Hillary Clinton, the presumptive Democratic nominee for president, is losing ground to admitted democratic socialist Bernie Sanders, perhaps a look at her appearance in Provincetown last week might be instructive.

Clinton, making her first-ever trip to the tip of Cape Cod, was the guest of honor at a private $1,000- and $2,700-a-head fundraiser at the swish waterfront home of Boston real estate tycoon Daniel Mullin. It was the talk of the town, which, according to a 2012 study, is the most Democratic burg in the state at 73 percent, ahead of even the Peoples Republic of Cambridge (71 percent).

This is like major buzz in town, Alix Ritchie, an organizer of the event told us last week. Everybody is just elated that shes coming.

Hillarys visit came at an opportune time, too  the week after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that same-sex marriage was a constitutional right. Ptown is also the gayest city in the country, according to census figures.

So as you might imagine, everyone wanted to sneak a peek at or grab a pic with the former first lady. But alas, it was not to be ...

Were told that Hillary fans began staking out their spots along Commercial Street  the towns main drag  in the morning, in order to wave at Hillary and her motorcade as it made its way from the airport to the towns West End for her scheduled 3 p.m. arrival.

I went to the post office at about 8 oclock and there were already people setting up their chairs, said one townie.

When Hill boarded her plane to Ptown in Hyannis, well-wishers had gathered to try and snap pics with their cellphone cameras. But Clintons Secret Service detail ordered them all to back off. No pictures allowed.

And once she arrived in Ptown, instead of taking Commercial Street  which is one way in the direction she was going  Clintons motorcade followed Route 6 to the West End of town, then went up Commercial Street (which had been closed to traffic) the wrong way, bypassing all the sign-waving well-wishers!

Although the supporters who ponied up to get up close and personal with Hill reported that she was warm and receptive, even Ptowns Democratic state rep criticized Clinton for not at least shaking a few hands.

State Rep. Sarah Peake told the Cape Cod Times she wished Hill had taken 20 minutes to press the flesh on Commercial Street.

In my experience, when people have a chance to meet the person that theyre voting for, thats very important, she told the paper. The way shes portrayed in the media and in the public eye in general ... the Hillary Clinton I saw today at the end of Commercial Street is not the Hillary Clinton that I read about even in The New York Times. There is a warmth and a personality and gravitas there that you dont just pick up on.

Hillarys aversion to getting up close and personal with the people she wants to vote for her  shes been knocked for similar avoidance tactics in New Hampshire  is in sharp contrast to her husbands M.O. Throughout his political career, Bill Clinton liked nothing better than wading into a crowd of well-wishers for some good old-fashioned retail politics.

Of course, Hillarys need to ditch the hoi polloi also extends to the media. Who can forget the sight of the rope line her campaign devised to corral reporters who might get close enough to shout a question at the former secretary of state during a July 4 parade in New Hampshire last weekend?

Hillarys peeps are worried that Sanders could overtake her in Iowa, the first-in-the-nation caucus. And hes virtually tied with her in New Hampshire. Perhaps its time for Hillary to ditch the tiny closed-door meetings with supporters and get out with the real people. After all, theyre the ones who vote ...
6:07 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

I want to make one thing perfectly clear. I am not in favor of Dan Hoort as Town Manager.

A Rat In The Basement
4:10 pm edt 

Re: Hoort Didn't Just Use Social Media

"He used town e-mails and town time to undermine many people in town. He was with Jaran on the threatening attitude and in the secret circle that was Lynn, Jaran, Nagle and him. the e-mails are there to be looked at. they are not a mystery. and Hoort will rip this town into factions that will not readily heal. He is fractious and we need someone who can unify this town and be there for all of us--not just a select group of insiders."



This is a good as it gets.  Please cut and paste an email that proves your point.  If there was a "secret circle", how did you get to know about it?  He will rip the town apart?  And what are you trying to do? 
4:08 pm edt 

Moorings
 
If you have a issue call the Harbormasters Office. If you don't like the answer call Mr Kerry Adams, the head of the pier corporation. Or you could just keep whining on here ceaselessly and not get any answers.
1:08 pm edt 

Hoort Didn't Just Use Social Media

He used town e-mails and town time to undermine many people in town. He was with Jaran on the threatening attitude and in the secret circle that was Lynn, Jaran, Nagle and him. the e-mails are there to be looked at. they are not a mystery. and Hoort will rip this town into factions that will not readily heal. He is fractious and we need someone who can unify this town and be there for all of us--not just a select group of insiders.
11:38 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort a Disaster

Hoort is half Lynn, half Jaran, and half himself.  That's like three halves man.  We'd be getting one and a half for the price of one.  Belter grab that price while it's available.  Sales like that don't come by too often.
11:36 am edt 

Town Hall/Dan Hoort

Personnel Board does not evaluate employees..........they should because the former TM did and you see what happened don't you.  How much did that cost us taxpayers, lots. Too much favoritism on the wrong employees. I would say they never have been a good judge of characters.
11:33 am edt 

Moorings Inside the Breakwater

I have been on the waiting list for a mooring inside the breakwater for several years now.  Why are there so many empty moorings behind the breakwater without current mooring stickers and several boats on moorings without current
mooring stickers on them?   Why hasn't the harbormaster collected the fees for these moorings ?  And this is not the first year that I have noticed these empty moorings without current stickers and boats without current stickers.  Why hasn't the harbormaster charged late fees to the owners of these moorings and why hasn't he order them removed for non payment if they haven't paid for them in the past years.  The town has lost thousands of dollars by the harbormaster not collecting these fees.  Still waiting for answers and a mooring behind the breakwater.
11:32 am edt 

Thursday, July 9, 2015

Hoort is a Disaster

And the town will forever regret hiring a Sharon Lynn wannabe if they are ever so foolhardy as to hire this two-faced man. He is half Sharon Lynn, sometimes half Jeff Jaran and then sometimes half himself--that in itself is quite questionable.

He cannot be trusted.
9:41 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

The Basement is not the town

I am not surprised that the basement supports Hoort. what has he done for them and secretly promised. You'll never know. but the basement is not the town and the town is not for this problematic man without ethics and without leadership.
9:39 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

"I think asking what Dan did is a fair question.  One answer and one question:

1.  His role with Sharon/Jeff was to consistently use social media to try and shut down discussion and debate by asserting bogus 'proper procedures' saying this/that/the other should not be posted about on Facebook to air differences which was just a smoke screen to squelch dissent.  It's tone was very much --- we will let you common rabble know when it is your turn to speak.  This is not a good sign for openness and transparency going forward.

2.  Dan's been in town a long time.  Other than work at town hall and his inn, what else has he contributed to/participated in within the community?  Any charity work?  Ever see him socialize/participate in any way?  Again, not a good sign for openness, accessibility and transparency."



Ok, so you can state your opinion here, but he should not state his opinion (because you disagree with it).

If they hire the other guy will you complain because he has not performed community service to your standards? 

You don't like Dan.  Get over it and stop holding him to a standard that you do not use on yourself or on another candidate. 
9:35 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

Of the town staff except for one person in the basement I think you will find almost unanimous support of Hoort as Town Manager.  You are the only one I've heard that is against him.  I think that might tell you something,
9:32 pm edt 

Re: Hillary Clinton

"Hillary Clintons Ptown snub leaves fans cold"

Article from the Boston Herald
July 8, 2015

http://www.bostonherald.com/inside_track/the_inside_track/2015/07/hillary_clinton_s_p_town_snub_leaves_fans_cold
9:31 pm edt 

The Bears Are in Town

A warm welcome to all Bears coming to Provincetown next week, truly my employees and I love you. Enjoy yourself and try to buy the singlet that fits right.
8:54 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

Hoort said he became "furious" during a Personnel Board meeting at which the Personnel Board chairwoman, Tina Trudel, allowed three members of the public to belittle the town manager and the police chief, he said.

Hoort said Trudel allowed the members of the public to go on "trashing" the public officials even though the board doesn't evaluate town employees, his complaint stated.
8:53 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

I think asking what Dan did is a fair question.  One answer and one question:

1.  His role with Sharon/Jeff was to consistently use social media to try and shut down discussion and debate by asserting bogus 'proper procedures' saying this/that/the other should not be posted about on Facebook to air differences which was just a smoke screen to squelch dissent.  It's tone was very much --- we will let you common rabble know when it is your turn to speak.  This is not a good sign for openness and transparency going forward.

2.  Dan's been in town a long time.  Other than work at town hall and his inn, what else has he contributed to/participated in within the community?  Any charity work?  Ever see him socialize/participate in any way?  Again, not a good sign for openness, accessibility and transparency. 

8:51 am edt 

Wednesday, July 8, 2015

Re: To All Those Born Here

Why don't you sign your name so that we can be sure you've left if Hoort is selected.  It would be a shame if your promises to turned out to be lies.

PS  On your way out, don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!
9:40 pm edt 

Re: Pretty Disappointing

Quite to the contrary, I went to the restaurant you're posting about on the 4th and had a great time. The service was great, the server wasn't foreign, the and as a matter of fact, most of the servers weren't foreign. My food was very good, big portions and reasonably priced. I was even able to get a table right before the fireworks and was on the deck during the fireworks. What I didn't see there as a possible result of the new management was no same old drunks sitting at the bar drinking for free taking up valuable seats and tables that paying customers want to sit in. Obviously the OP and perhaps the second person posting used to work there and didn't like the new manager. Oh well, the old style will soon be forgotten. Here's looking forward to the future!!
9:39 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

To all those born Here

If you allow Dan Hoort to be town manager, then you can live with this choice. If he is chosen, I am leaving town. Hope is dashed. Promises are lies. the future is simply a repeat of the past.

This has been your town and you have done too little to save it. If now, after all the years and concern and meetings, this outsider who does not like this town is chosen, take him, he's yours. I will no longer be part of this town.

How many times can you work with those who are sadly too foolish for their own good.
7:17 pm edt 

An Individual Observation

Man, I was really right in my earlier assessment...you people aren't HAPPY unless you're hating on someone else in this town!  And the DRAMA!!  My heaven's, it's worse than an episode of Peyton Place!  Bitch, whine, moan, complain, demand...what miserable, hollow, and empty lives you must have...I may not have a lot of money, but I at least I don't lead anywhere near the life-shortening, hate-filled lives YOU all do!
7:07 pm edt 

Ryder Street Blocked

I am more than aggravated. Ryder Street was blocked for over a 1/2 hr because of two rescue trucks that were parked normally on Commercial Street in front of Town Hall. There were no rescue members in sight, no patient laying in the street or on the sidewalk. Traffic was rerouted and even the postal pickup truck could not get thru. I am all for helping recue do their job but if the patient in this case was in a store than why is the street being blocked. Totally ridiculous. If traffic is, was or could be a problem than have one of their Police Officers stay near by. I just don't get it.
7:05 pm edt 

Re: Lawsuits Against the Town

"Can anybody tell me what is the outcome or at what stages The lawsuits against this town are. where our newly elected chief of police was named for covering up crimes against our citizens. It seems to be this is being covered up!!! All I am aware of is one was in federal court and the other one is in the state courts. We want answers from my Selectman what is happening with these lawsuits and how much has it cost this town so far in attorney fees and if these suits have been settled how much was the settlement for we should take it right out of Goldens salary!!! We were promised transparency for my newly elected Selectman let's see it!!!!"



First of all, for a person that seems to really be at least emotionally involved in town government, you should know that the Police Chief is not "elected", but rather, appointed by the BOS.  They take a vote to determine the sense of the board, but that is not an election. 

Why is it that people post these crazy things about conspiracies and crimes committed by town officials?  they sound off about cover-ups and all kinds of nefarious deeds.  Anyone can sue anyone for anything in the USA.  That does not imply any guilt or merit.  Because you dream up these hings does not make them true.  There are lots of people who are very unscrupulous and just love to figure ways to take money or things from others.  Just look at all the scams these days. Some people realize that government is very imperfect and will usually settle disputes rather than contest them in court.  So, they take advantage.  That does not prove guilt.

Is illegal and immoral to take settlements out of officials pay. You obviously hate Golden for your own reasons so will do anything to harm him, even lie and cheat and steal his good name to further your own hatred.  Unfortunately you are one of too many in this place. 
7:01 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

"Look at the e-mails. He is the one sending them to Candyland and to Sharon Lynn and he is part of the e-mails undermining this town and threatening people. they are there for your eyes to see. some of them are horrible and he is a key town employee link to all the damage Candace Nagle and Jeff Jaran did to this town."



i have looked at the emails and have never seen one that is undermining and threatening.  Pleas take a minute and do a cut and paste on one that you believe exemplifies your point. Horrible may be in the mind of the reader if there is a difference of opinion.

I agree that Jaran was not the right person for this town and did damage, but Nagle?  Come on.  What did she do except anger people like you.  She had no legal authority to do anything.  
6:58 pm edt 

Re: Pretty Disappointing

It is disappointing to see a landmark restaurant like the           being so mismanaged and totally staffed by foreigners that do not understand our culture.  However, the owner has chosen to operate the place this way, and fortunately in our country he has the right to do with the place as he wants. Hopefully he will be successful.
6:55 pm edt 

Re: Hillary Clinton

Bernie Sanders won a lot of votes that Miss Hilary lost by the shameful financial fundraiser held here recently! The working class was totally ignored!!!  Town Hall should have been the venue for her appearance!! Personally,I wouldn't give her the time of day,let alone my money that I could have given! Every bit counts but the elitist attitude against the working class did her a serious disservice! Maybe Presidnt Bernie Sanderswill come after he' elected of perhps Presdnt Donald Trump HO both know how to get things done for one & all! That shoe was. FARCE not a FUNDRAISER!  Money doesn't buy everything!
6:54 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

Do Your Own Research on Hoort

Look at the e-mails. He is the one sending them to Candyland and to Sharon Lynn and he is part of the e-mails undermining this town and threatening people. they are there for your eyes to see. some of them are horrible and he is a key town employee link to all the damage Candace Nagle and Jeff Jaran did to this town.
11:22 am edt 

From Vincent Currier - Where is Safe Harbor


Will the Provincetown Board of Selectmen find us "Safe Harbor", achieve their primary goal of fair and affordable community housing for all classes of Provincetown workers and community??!!

....AND, in this century!

Stay tuned to find out....

9:53 am edt 

Re: Cheryl Andrews
 
"I say she should recuse because whether I like the person or not, she may have been, throughout the process, pushing a particular candidate who is probably one of the finalists. This is an unfair advantage to that person and against the other. To keep the process clean, if she has done a good job in choosing the right candidates, the other selectmen will also see this and vote for the right person without her interaction."



Ok, let me get this right.  She formed an opinion on a candidate based on knowledge gleaned from some source.  She was elected to form opinions based on her evaluation of information.  But, you are afraid that her opinion does not coincide with yours.  Also, you are convinced that the other BOS members have no ability to make informed judgements on their own.  Has she been recalled in some secret vote that has not been made public? 

It makes me think of excluding people who work on political campaigns from voting for their candidate.  Democracy is really a tough concept for you to grasp.

You probably would not want her to vote on a dog related issue if she has a dog.  Or a car related issue if she has a car. Or a tax related issue if she pays taxes.  Where does your foolishness end?
9:48 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

"Hoort does not have a lot of support

this is the blind  view of the few. they talk to each other, sit on boards together and think everyone thinks like they do. Hoort's support is marginal and limited to the insider group. Get outside that inner circle and people dislike, distrust and have little respect for him or his policies."


And, what, exactly is the difference between your not-so-scientific survey and others?  What polling firm did you use?  What was the margin of error.  BS. HOOEY.  TOTAL SILLINESS.  You look in the mirror, talk with yourself for a minute or so, and then declare a consensus of your dreams in the guise of public opinion.  Thinking people are not buying your slop. 
9:45 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

"Dan Hoort had a part in this craziness."


What is wrong with being more explicit?  Tell us excatly what he did as part of the past problem.  Did he hire the chief?  Did he write the stupid contract?  Was he part of the firing?  Did he hire Lynn? Was he ever on the BOS?
9:44 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

"Hoort is the wrong Person for the town Manager's Position

He is divisive and will divide this town once again. I'd rather have no town manager than him."



It seems that he is divisive to members of the FinCom and friends of members of the FinCom because he has questioned their Charter given role in town.

No one has ever told me about any problem with his ability to do his job.  All the complaints that I have heard come from a narrow slice of town activists. 

Our problem still is pay and cost of being forced to live in town.  

9:42 am edt 

Mature Way to Deal With Our Issues

Did anyone ever stop to think that maybe the reason nothing ever gets done in our town government, maybe the reason we are unable to move forward and see any progress is because whenever someone takes a position on any board they are met with cries of "RECALL!" and "IMPEACH!"

This behavior has to stop. This town needs to stop acting like a crazed angry mob and stop screaming "burn the witch!" whenever they don't agree with something one of our selectmen says or does. You can't just keep firing everyone. We need to figure out mature ways to deal with issues. Stop pointing fingers and looking to place blame. It helps nobody.
9:34 am edt 

Lawsuits Against the Town

Can anybody tell me what is the outcome or at what stages The lawsuits against this town are. where our newly elected chief of police was named for covering up crimes against our citizens. It seems to be this is being covered up!!! All I am aware of is one was in federal court and the other one is in the state courts. We want answers from my Selectman what is happening with these lawsuits and how much has it cost this town so far in attorney fees and if these suits have been settled how much was the settlement for we should take it right out of Goldens salary!!! We were promised transparency for my newly elected Selectman let's see it!!!!
9:32 am edt 

Tuesday, July 7, 2015

Re: 350 Bradford Street

Has the Assessment Been Made on the old Michael Shay's Property?

have we affirmed that Provincetown has more than met it's 1.5% and therefore we do not need to allow 40B projects? I thought this was done but I haven't heard ,much lately and some at town hall seem to believe we haven't and want to support the developers. Have the selectmen done anything constructive on this decision? Or are they allowing this to hang in the wind. Does anyone know?
9:50 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

Hoort is the wrong Person for the town Manager's Position

He is divisive and will divide this town once again. I'd rather have no town manager than him.
8:21 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

Dan Hoort should not be the next Town Manager. This town has gone through 2 years of craziness because of the former Police Chief and Town Manager. Dan Hoort had a part in this craziness. Let's start fresh, please.
8:20 pm edt 

Pretty Disappointing

Was born and raised in town. Moved away after high school but always make a point to be here for the blessing and 4th of July. Usually the highlights of the trip are at the           for both the Festival Friday night Jug Band, and the 4th of July Celebration and fireworks on the deck. I certainly can't say that this year. Didn't see the usual faces working that were always making sure everyone was having a good time.  No more character in that place, and not a competent bartender either unfortunately. Pretty disappointing.
8:19 pm edt 

Re: Cheryl Andrews

"I Too Will sign the Recall of Andrews

if Dan Hoort becomes town manager. I even know of some people who now want to leave Provincetown because of this candidacy. some, and they are right, see Hoort as brining back all that was bad and threatening of the past regime. He was integral to Sharon Lynn's team--she did pick him for this present position. He has no experience running a town and should never have been a finalist.

I do blame Andrews for this one. Shame on her for this selection. Shame, shame."


Why does this hooey still persist.  Lynn is gone.  SO Hoort worked for her.  So did lots of others. Talk about guilt by association.  What has he done wrong.  Nothing and you won't answer this because all you cowards do is make baseless claims.  If people are stupid enough to leave because of a new manager I'll drive them to the bus stop.  This is from the same kind of dope that said that if Obama was elected that they would leave the country.  We'', the country is still here and so are they.

You threats are hollow and senseless.  Stop bothering us with your drivel.  it is boring. Can you believe that you actually said that people were leaving town because of his candidacy?  Not selection, just candidacy.  Moronic. 

By the way, the other candidate has ZERO experience in running a tow.  Only worked under others in big cities.   
7:40 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

Hoort does not have a lot of support

this is the blind  view of the few. they talk to each other, sit on boards together and think everyone thinks like they do. Hoort's support is marginal and limited to the insider group. Get outside that inner circle and people dislike, distrust and have little respect for him or his policies.
7:38 pm edt 

Re: Cheryl Andrews

I say she should recuse because whether I like the person or not, she may have been, throughout the process, pushing a particular candidate who is probably one of the finalists. This is an unfair advantage to that person and against the other. To keep the process clean, if she has done a good job in choosing the right candidates, the other selectmen will also see this and vote for the right person without her interaction.
3:28 pm edt 

Re: Cheryl Andrews
 
"I do blame Andrews for this one. Shame on her for this selection. Shame, shame."



Have the votes been mad public?  Was she the only member allowed to vote?  Will she be the sole appointing authority? When did we elect her the dictator? 

This is truly weird stuff.  There were other members of the selection committee. There are five people of the BOS.   What on earth makes you think that she has such power as to make all these folks do her bidding?  Bribes?  Extortion? What?  Since none of these are even close to being probable, all I can think of is that you hate democracy and want to run government by innuendo and threat.  Not nice, and probably nuts.
3:26 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

You personally may not like him, but Hoort has a great deal of support as the next town manager.  I say, if he's the best choice, give him a chance to be the success many of us think he will be.
3:09 pm edt 

Re: Cheryl Andrews
 
"Considering she was part of the screening process, she now must recuse on the final interviews and final vote, yes?"



Why?  Explain yourself, please.  My guess is that you are afraid that she will vote for a candiate that you do not favor.  Am I right?
1:58 pm edt 

Re: Cheryl Andrews

I Too Will sign the Recall of Andrews

if Dan Hoort becomes town manager. I even know of some people who now want to leave Provincetown because of this candidacy. some, and they are right, see Hoort as brining back all that was bad and threatening of the past regime. He was integral to Sharon Lynn's team--she did pick him for this present position. He has no experience running a town and should never have been a finalist.

I do blame Andrews for this one. Shame on her for this selection. Shame, shame.
1:56 pm edt 

Re: Cheryl Andrews

Considering she was part of the screening process, she now must recuse on the final interviews and final vote, yes?
10:07 am edt 

Re: Town Manager Candidates

Given the two finalists... the obvious choice is the resident

He knows the town
He doesn't face relocation expenses
He has a performance record

You may not like the reality, but there were only two candidates.
10:02 am edt 

Monday, July 6, 2015

Re: Cheryl Andrews

"Hidden deals, dishonest actions, backdoor dealings must go--or you go.
Enough is enough."



Selectman Andrews has'nt been involved in any of these dealings despite your unbalanced rants.  I don't know her but I doubt she or any of the other Selectmen will be bullied by your threats.
7:02 pm edt 

Re: Cheryl Andrews

Is there sheet music for singing the recall?  Or is this just another fine example of the quality of people who see the glass as half empty.
6:53 pm edt 

Happy Birthday to our Blogmaster!

No matter what anyone thinks, this blog is a great service to the community. The blogmaster, in the past, has been subject to harassment, and all sort of indignities to keep everyone informed and to keep them questioning what happens politically in town. So let's wish him a happy birthday and hope that he continues to provide this service for a long time to come.
6:52 pm edt 

Anybody Out There?!

Sleepy time for Bonzo! the other blogs are duller than dull

Nothing much happening. Nothing intellectual being said. Oh, how boring can you get!
1:46 pm edt 

Let the Recall Begin

Strange that C. Andrews was able to run because of the recall on Austin Knight. and those numbers were more than the 10% required.

So now, it's time to use our power again. This time against those who serve others and not us. Forget your past C. Andrews and you will lose your future. and your future is now.

Dan Hoort gets in and you are out fast and furiously. We already have fifty people who are ready to sing the recall and then work to make sure you are out on your butt.

We are disgusted and we feel betrayed by you. and yes we don't have to take it anymore.

Hidden deals, dishonest actions, backdoor dealings must go--or you go.

Enough is enough.
1:45 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort - In Practice?

Oh, Now He is Mr Water

Do we really need Mr. Water now helping all of us conserve water? Dan Hoort should stick to what he knows--Is he trying to practice being Mr. Town Manager? Sending advice to all residents? Please, stick to your numbers instead.
11:49 am edt 

Re: Hillary Clinton's Visit to Provincetown

Ditto, well said and my thoughts exactly. A missed opportunity on her part.
In addition, genuine insight to what she now represents.
I'm part of the 1% and I will never forget that it is the other 99% that makes us a whole society.
I had already decided to jump my traditional Democratic ship and support Bernie Sanders. Hillary's fundraiser in Ptown reinforced my decision to do so.
7:35 am edt 

Sunday, July 5, 2015

Kudos Provincetown

Great Day for all. Thank you Recreation, Police, Fire, DPw and Harbormasters.  A job truly well done we are blessed to have you all.
2:18 pm edt 

Saturday, July 4, 2015

Join Us??

Where??? Where is the band playing??


Webmaster Comment:

Oops sorry about that. They will be at Herring Cove Beach.
6:24 pm edt 

Happy Fourth!

Let's hope it is a clear night
.
Looking forward to a great fourth of July Fireworks! Let the sky be dark and clear and the burst of energy and colors explode above us all!
6:10 pm edt 

Re: 350 Bradford Street - Vincent Currier Email Request

Ah, Vincent!

Bravo for the request for public documents. You are doing a great service for us all in this request.
6:07 pm edt 

Provincetown is a Joke

They eliminate a handicap parking space on Standish St. so one of the selectmen can make more money with their trolley.
2:20 pm edt 

How Could We Miss This?

If we had bought Winslow Farms, with the existing house included, we could have then rented that house to the Town Manager on the cheap as part of the compensation package. How come nobody else thought of that? It was a dame obvious move to me.

A Rat In The Basement 
8:24 am edt 

Re: 350 Bradford Street - Vincent Currier Email Request

De Ryter is part of the Fiasco

Hidden behind one trust or another, he is there. But the conflict of interest, however, is with Gloria and Erik--be it Paul De Ryter or Brucde MacGregory--it does not matter, either one or the other presents the conflict of interest on the part of Gloria and Erik. this is a terrible conflict of interest and it should be brought to the state level.
12:08 am edt 

Friday, July 3, 2015

Provide Housing!!

If connected people are going to get away with building more "affordable housing" on Bradford in the east end or anywhere, then lets make sure that the town gets something out of it.  Make sure that they "give" the town two or three units so that we can offer housing as part of incentive package for town manager and/or chief of police.  Many towns have to do this.  Where I used to live they even provided housing to the Supt. of Schools. Face it folks we dont offer competitive salaries to the real world and the real estate is high because we are now a resort community. We must be more creative with how we lure folks here. The friendly demeanor of this blog and the way we treat volunteer committee members and elected officials isnt going to do it.
7:03 pm edt 

Hillary Clinton's Visit to Provincetown

There should Have Been some Other Occasion To See Hilary

Perhaps there should have been a $50 or $100 ticket and videos of the speech could have been seen to a larger Provincetown group perhaps in town auditorium. Or Hilary could have made one stop somewhere else to say hello and make her presence felt to the average person. My thoughts on her "visit" here.
7:00 pm edt 

Re: 350 Bradford Street

Regarding 350 Bradford St and conflict of interest: according to the tax card the owner of Erik nd Gloria's apartment is not Mr DeRuyter . It is Bruce Macgregor the principle investor at 350 Bradford St.

At least get all the characters right in this bizarre soap opera!
6:57 pm edt 

An Observation

Dimming someone else's light does not make yours burn brighter.
12:07 pm edt 

Happy, Happy Fourth!!

May it be a great celebration for all in Provincetown! May the flag continue to wave!
12:06 pm edt 

Thursday, July 2, 2015

Sally Rose's Farewell

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the P-town Banner is far from a worthy example of journalism standards. If held to the mirror, it would probably fail the test.

Many have suggested, for more than a long time, that a blog carries more weight today than a weekly.
10:52 pm edt 

Sally Rose's Farewell

I find it very interesting that Sally Rose has taken not one but two occasions in last and this week's editorial to thank Alix Ritchie for all her support.
Why didn't she just come out and thank Alix for all the financial support she has given her and her partner, Joan Lenane, over the past twenty years, exceeding their total compensation over the years, which resulted in a very directed and biased newspaper, even under Gatehouse's ownership?

Sally never once thanked Gatehouse for the past 10 years in her two editorials. A purposeful silent statement on her part toward Gatehouse.

Money bought loyalty,            and duplicity of behavior which did not serve our community well.

Unfortunately, I don't think that Gatehouse gives a damm about anything other than streamlining operations, cutting personnel costs, hiring stringers, increasing advertising revenue and having a Truro reporter become editor of a predominantly historically rooted Provincetown newspaper.

Time will tell whether a community newspaper remains for Provincetown advertisers and subscribers to support.
7:04 pm edt 

Different Voices

The sponsors of the Clinton event are NOT the voices for the entire gay community.  Though they think they are.
5:45 pm edt 

A Proposal For Change - A New Start

(1) Past boards of selectmen have been immune to the market forces of recruitment of a town manager for the past 23 years with the tenure of Keith Bergman for 17 years and Sharon Lynn for 6 years.

(2) Keith rented for 10 years on Mechanic Street and then purchased a condo on Howland Street when housing prices were still affordable. Sharon was recruited by the cabal and had already purchased her $1.1M condo from Ann & Harriet so the housing/salary issue was not a concern at recruitment. She later used the cabal to advance her financial and political interests to her total benefit to the discard of the community.

(3) In my judgment, the current search has failed for all the all known reasons: the geographic isolation of Provincetown, the town's reputation as a political hotbed which destroys people unnecessarily, the ever changing dynamics of boards of selectmen within the dysfunctional political structure and the high cost of housing which would require an iron-clad, high risk, highly attractive lucrative contract for a highly experienced and competent town manger to provide the necessary leadership required today.

(4) The two leading candidates who have been identified from a NATIONAL SEARCH with an alleged consultant who has an understanding of Cape Cod did not successfully complete her job. Instead, the consultant and Chair of the Search Committee are now undertaking damage control and spin to choose the better of two lesser candidates.

(5) Board of Selectmen and Town Voters:  We do not need to choose a lesser candidate so that the Board of Selectmen can congratulate themselves as having filled the two most important jobs in the town and have the incoming town manager beholden to the Chair of the Search Committee who will probably be the next Chair of the Board of Selectmen despite her promise to serve only one term.

(6) It's really time for the Board of Selectmen to take a step back and engage the community in a real dialogue about
the town's future and how "we can collectively get there."

(7) Such a reset button should not be labeled as failure but rather as the first basic step to a healthy and strong Provincetown. Let's get started.
 
(8) It is very apparent that we have a dysfunctional Board of Selectmen which has not been able to solidify and unite with a strong statement of future direction for this town.
This is the critical piece which is lacking in the recruitment of a competent town manager.

(9) It has been a new game for the past 20+ years and we are still playing by the same old rules of goals and objectives.

(10) Community housing and economic development should consume 75% of the meeting time of the Board of Selectmen. Instead, they focus on operational matters.

(11) 75% of our residential tax bills are sent out of state; if you include 15% for commercial properties, that leaves us with about 10% real residents in Provincetown.

(12) Winters will soon be deserted in town with no businesses being able to stay open year round.

(13) YEAR ROUND HOUSING must be created, not 40B or 40B like housing, for residents who have year round or close to year round jobs who make too much money to qualify for 40B housing. We have enough low income 40B housing; the affordable housing developers have done and continue to do very well in Provincetown.

(14) If we don't begin to provide housing for town employees, Seashore Point, Outer Cape Health, post office, bank, hospitality workers who have 9+ month jobs,
Stop & Shop, etc., in five years, Board of Selectmen, we will not have a community because you have failed to plan and build these units.

(15) A building with condominium ownership could be built whereby the town, private employers, non profits, etc. own a certain number of units, deed restricted.

(16) Economic Development: With the sale of Cabral's Wharf, it is inevitable that there will be future development on the Wharf. The Board of Selectmen should be pro-active and not wait for a zoning application when it's too late to respond. There should be a comprehensive waterfront development plan which makes sense for the overall community, including MacMillan Wharf, downtown retailers and restaurants who have supported this town for many years, the cultural institutions, etc.

(17) Let's change the nature and scope of the Board of Selectmen meetings, delegate to managers operational matters, engage the community to a greater degree about future planning, and finally provide the proper assignment to the Planner, community planning, and have her relinquish her roles with regulatory bodies for which she has no authority and will only continue to do harm to her future credulity as a true planner."
4:57 pm edt 

Re: Garbage Collection

So as a year-round property taxpayer, you want to eliminate my trash pick-up? OK. Let's eliminate everything.......no more subsidies for housing, stop programs for kids, elderly, you're on your own. Leave my trash alone you      .
10:47 am edt 

Re: 350 Bradford Street - Vincent Currier Email Request

Gloria Mcpherson, Town Planner and Erik Yingling,Selectman Vice-Chair, although NOT dating or in a relationship anymore, continue to reside and co-rent in an apartment owned by a principal investor in the 350 Bradford deal, Mr. Paul "            " DeRuyter.

One HAS to wonder if there is any connection to the three of them supporting this 40B monstrosity that threatens to be erected at the entrance to OUR town. Especially in light of the letters and attendance at BOS meetings, and social media discussions against the development of hundreds of residents.

Please do not let this happen. Continue to write letters and yell your objections from the rooftops and at BOS meetings.
10:46 am edt 

Re: 350 Bradford Street - Vincent Currier Email Request
 
"When Selectman Erik Yingling says he checked with the Attorney General's office, what does he mean?"



That's a red flag to mean he's lying. If his questions he presented to the AGs office aren't in writing and the answers to those specific questions aren't in writing, it's all a made up lie and cannot be trusted. Anyone that says that kind of thing is making it up to cover his opinion and reasoning. Same with ethics, if the facts surrounding the situation aren't in writing as presented to the ethics department and the questions asked aren't in writing and the answers aren't in writing, it can't be considered true.

And yes, the AGs office and the State Ethics Commission will put anything in writing.
10:43 am edt 

Re: Provincetown BOS

Politics = Sleaze

This we know for sure.
10:38 am edt 

Re: Provincetown BOS

"This BOS is willfully blind to anything but their own agendas, contributing community members are being forced out everyday."



We have been without a Town Administrator for several seasons. A highly skilled position that directs staff in consultation w/ the BOS to develop housing initiatives, work with developers and the state, create needed budget has been left vacant and therefore, left us twisting in the wind.

An idiot someone is bound to blabber on         about how the BOS is responsible for all things, but they serve as interested and elected volunteers with varying skill levels. The BOS require expert guidance provided by experienced town administrators.

Don't believe me? Then name a successful town who has functioned completely on the steam of its board of selectmen, without a strong town manager.

Ain't one.
10:36 am edt 

Wednesday, July 1, 2015

Garbage Collection

Consider This???  How many homes now  need weekly  trash pickup by the towns garbage trucks. We now have mostly second home owners, and if you check each street you will only see a few trash cans being put out.  Have we reached a time when this cost can elimanated?????????
5:00 pm edt 

Provincetown BOS

"in five years, Board of Selectmen, we will not have a community because you have failed to plan and build these units."

5 years?

This BOS is willfully blind to anything but their own agendas, contributing community members are being forced out everyday.
3:51 pm edt 

Re: 350 Bradford Street - Vincent Currier Email Request

When Selectman Erik Yingling says he checked with the Attorney General's office, what does he mean?

Does it mean that he fully described the circumstances around 350 Bradford Street? Did he inform the AG's offfice that he along with his former  partner the Town Planner were joint tenants of one of the principal partners of the development in question? What did the AG's office provide as an answer and does he have their response in writing?

Did Selectman Yingling inform the Ethics commission? 

And if not why not?

Lastly, does the BOS approve of the Selectman and Town Planner participating in the review process for 350 Bradford Street? 
3:48 pm edt 

Re: 350 Bradford Street - Vincent Currier Email Request

Funny there is a  post about VC being attacked but I don't any post attacking the old    ..

just slow to post today, Clarence?
2:31 pm edt 

Re: 350 Bradford Street - Vincent Currier Email Request

You don't Have to Believe in conspiracies to Understand conflict of Interests--and thus conflict of Interest Laws

Thanks, Vincent. Good work. We need this type of questioning and requests. When our officials fail to disclose and other officials fail to question, it is role of engaged voters to ask and act.
11:30 am edt 

Re: 350 Bradford Street

"Glad to see you requesting e-mails and correspondence between Gloria McPherson and builders and/promoters and financial partners of the old Michael Shay property. Some hidden connections will be revealed."


And, I'm glad to know that conspiracy theories are still being the norm here. Just for giggles, maybe you can tell us why, if the connections are hidden, you are so sure that they exist?

Get a hobby.
10:10 am edt 

350 Bradford Street - Email Request


"Vincent Currier: Good work and Good Request"


My my, how the attack dogs come out when fair and logical questions are raised regarding events and actions  which beg elucidation.
 
When  town officials' positions and actions come into question it is both fair and  logical  that 
concerned citizens seek clarification and confirmation of ethical as well as legal veracity.

Why walk around the elephant in  the room, pretending to be blind to the obvious potential  problems.

10:05 am edt 


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