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Tuesday, March 31, 2015

Re: Jeff Jaran

Enough with this supposition that Jeff Jaran has won his arbitration!!!  Town council and the Selectmen have said all along they have a strong case against him.  Even Peter Petas, town activist, said that he personally heard from the Chair that the town was in a good position.  And Jaran will NOT be able to live "lavishly" off the taxpayers EVEN if he wins.  Remember he's admitted to wrongdoing.  His argument is that he was never afforded progressive discipline and that the charges did not warrant him to be fired. So EVEN IF he wins, it'll be a year or two of his salary.  That's it. Hardly enough to retire on these days.  What we are all forgetting is the devil in the details. 

IN ADDITION to what ever they award Jaran IF he wins, the town must also pay all the other expenses associated with his firing - town council (which was posted here to be about $80,000), PLUS Jaran's attorney (which would be about the same as town council), PLUS all three arbitrators (have no idea what that amount is).  It's already been confirmed that the town had to pay Marcum to testify (on the Chief's behalf!). So IN TOTALITY, yes it's a lot of money we will have to pay IF he wins.

There's one other avenue Jaran can get more money from the town, and that's to sue civilly for wrongful termination IF he wins.  That avenue opens up for him to seek damages because he was fired.  He could certainly make some serious money and even though those $$$ come from the town's insurance policy, we can be sure that just like with any other insurance policies our premiums will rise.  And so yes, cost us even more.  Let's hope Jaran loses.  I know it's hard to have faith in our town leaders today, but we've got to hope they did the right thing for us taxpayers and not for their personal vendettas.
1:47 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

If any of you remember, several years ago we had the Local Comprehensive Planning Implementation Committee that was instrumental in the writing of the LCP. Did we have a Planner During that timeframe? Seems I remember a Mark Latour as planner or was he assistant TM. This is not unusual to have other firms weigh in.  Why not utilize the Cape Cod Commission for assistance.
1:18 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

If the town Planner Needs a Consultant to Write

that is nuts. she is or supposedly is supposed to be the town planner. that is the central role of the town planner.
something's amiss here.
1:16 pm edt 

Re: Year Round Population vs. Year Round Business

This statement was well written. No matter what you try to do it won't work because people are looking for warmer weather in the winter including many of the business owners. Even the Lobster Pot Restaurant went from year round to seasonal a few years ago because the winter business just isn't there. I think the only motel open year round now is the Provincetown Inn.
1:15 pm edt 

Re: Jeff Jaran

"Will be appreciated again somewhere else,unless he decides to retire & live lavishly on what P'Town Taxpayers have to pay him!!"



OMG, what poppycock.  Was this written by Jaran or his lawyer?  Lavishly? C'mon.  Do you expect millions to dumped on him?  You may have some valid opinions but they certainly were not expressed with this post.
1:13 pm edt 

Re: Subsidize Me!

"You say you don't tell people your from Provincetown your embarrassed, but your not embarrsed  to get food stamps and low income housing, your crazy  I bet you also have a pure bred dog and live in low income housing,,,,,thats what the town needs to stop  If you can't afford your own food and housing then don't get a animal How is that right?  You get assistance from everything but get a expensive animal..  It makes me so mad when i see people walking there dogs in and out of the low income housing and they have expensive pure bred dogs."



What utter nonsense.  You know nothing to be fact, just ignorant speculation based on fantasy.  I gave a pure bred dog to a friend because I could no longer walk it properly.  Now that friend has a good companion and she would never have been able to afford to buy it.  SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT?  
1:10 pm edt 

Re: Jeff Jaran

If Jaran won,it's nothing less than this voter expected! I never knew or met him but watching / reading all that was reported told me nonconformity/ noncompliance comes with a heavy price! His management style of Police business was not acceptable in Town but it wasn't wrong! people not wanting to adapt to more severe changes in his style chose to fire him! Now we may have to pay the Piper! Every boss has their own ideas of business operations that employees have to adjust to if they want their jobs! So too,do Police Chiefs! It was more strict after 9/11 Homeland Security came into play! people should be promoted from within the system,since they know what's expected! Jeff Jaran was well liked before he came here! His M.O. Will be appreciated again somewhere else,unless he decides to retire & live lavishly on what P'Town Taxpayers have to pay him!!
10:58 am edt 

Re: Subsidize Me!

"Out in the "real world" people also work 2 jobs. And go to school. And care for children and elderly parents.  And don't get anything extra from the taxpapers."


This is the kind of post that makes this place so silly.  It implies that ALL people in "the real world" work 2 jobs etc.  Maybe SOME do.  Also, do you really think that people here are the only folks that collect and sort of government assistance?  There are abusers everywhere.  There are givers and takers everywhere.  Some around here are just very vocal.

Try looking for solutions that may work in the "real world".  PT represents a classic economic situation where base economies change.  Look at Detroit and cars.  Fall River and textiles.  Lowell and textiles.  Brockton and shoes.  We are not unique and our problems are not unique and the solutions are not simple as many would have them.
10:55 am edt 

Re: Subsidize Me!

You say you don't tell people your from Provincetown your embarrassed, but your not embarrsed  to get food stamps and low income housing, your crazy  I bet you also have a pure bred dog and live in low income housing,,,,,thats what the town needs to stop  If you can't afford your own food and housing then don't get a animal How is that right?  You get assistance from everything but get a expensive animal..  It makes me so mad when i see people walking there dogs in and out of the low income housing and they have expensive pure bred dogs.    

CRAZY
10:51 am edt 

Year Round Population vs Year Round Business

This movement to try increase the year round population of Provincetown is well-intended but ill-informed.  This goal is not achievable.  Provincetown is just one of the many seasonal beach side resort communities that exist all up and down the East coast that face the same reality.  Our local economies are based almost entirely on seasonal tourism and there is nothing we can do to change this.  Not in Provincetown, anywhere on the Cape or Islands, or anywhere from Maine to North Carolina in beach side resort communities.  People will not live year round where year round jobs do not exist.  Furthermore, implementing a residential exemption will not have any impact on the year round population except to raise taxes on the few multi-family apartment properties that exist.  The reality is that we are a small town with a small year round population that is based on seasonal tourism.  You can try to change that but it simply is not going to happen no matter how hard you try.
10:48 am edt 

Re: Town Planner

"Why is the town Planner Hiring a consultant to Write the Comprehensive Long term Plan? That is why she was hired. If she can't write the new Comprehensive long-term plan, then she should not town planner. given that she is town planner, then she needs to start to write this plan without consultants, without monies for outsiders."


All I know is: you can't comprehend and you can't write.
10:43 am edt 

Re: Subsidize Me!

If you are that embarrassed to say you are from Provincetown then why not relocate and live somewhere where you can be proud to say you live. Provincetown is a beautiful place to live its some of the newcomers that are trying to make a small town function like that of a larger one.
10:41 am edt 

Monday, March 30, 2015

Re: Jeff Jaran

"After the Jaran was "separated from the town"????"


Don't you really mean when the town fired his ass?! Let's keep it real.
10:04 pm edt 

Re: Subsidize Me!

Re: "The bohemien hippies of Provincetown are a disgrace...I never tell people I am from Provincetown, it's embarrassing."


See, that's the thing: there are no hippies or bohemians here. It's either freeloaders who claim they're just "living the Provincetown lifestyle" while getting drunk and collecting unemployment from October to May every year, or rich old yuppies who own multiple properties but like to call themselves "old hippies" because they vote democrat and smoke pot once in a while.

Real hippies in the 60s had ideals, they worked hard for the causes they believed in, they believed in equality, not exclusivity. There are no more hippies. Certainly there are none in Provincetown, anyway.
9:31 pm edt 

Re: Jeff Jaran

Any time you want to know what monies have been spent on the Jaran issue, specifically after he was separated from the town, you have every right to call the town accountant and ask. It's all available to the public, you just have to ask. And don't feel intimidated or nosey. It's YOUR tax dollars
9:25 pm edt 

Re: Subsidize Me!

I work 2 jobs in the summer and I deserve to live here.  I also will take food stamps, a free cell phone, heat assistance and pay nothing for health care.  Affordable housing is my right as a townie!

Out in the "real world" people also work 2 jobs. And go to school. And care for children and elderly parents.  And don't get anything extra from the taxpapers.
The bohemien hippies of Provincetown are a disgrace...I never tell people I am from Provincetown, it's embarrassing.

Move to where the year round jobs are, it's that simple.
8:56 pm edt 

Re: Jeff Jaran

Dear Predictive Polyana...

This time last year Sharon Lynn was in Rehoboth Beach.

Please make your predictions based on fact.
8:53 pm edt 

Re: Lack of Funds

"We should rise up and rebel!!"


Yes you should.  Post your name and contact info and then maybe we can join the movement.
8:46 pm edt 

Re: 365 Group, What is It?

"We happened to overhear a conversation in the Post Office the other day about a new group in town called 365. Is there anyone that can tell us what this group is and what they are about? Is it a new Alanon group? If so,  We would like to find out more about it so We can attend."


This is possibly one of the phoniest, insincere posts ever seen here.  If you want to start a put=down thread, say so.
8:44 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

"Let's start trimming the fat. I'm sure there are other areas in other departments we could look to cut as well. All over The country businesses are consolidating positions and downsizing"


As soon as you start with the "fat" jargon we know from whence you come .  then the BS about the country essentially contracting in spite of all the news about companies expanding and job growth. You must sell used cars.
8:34 pm edt 

Re: Jeff Jaran

Let me make a prediction: Jeff Jaran arbitration is ruled in his favor, many smart folks last year at this time in town implored the existing BOS members, Sharon Lynn and members of FINCOM and the Moderator to pay him the one year of salary and one year of benefits. sign the papers and MOVE ON. Well Mr Donegan, Mr. YINGLING  didn't take the sage smart advise and neither did Anderson and the rest of the BOS. We will pay double at the end of the day! I hope someone at Town Meeting a person on Town Meeting floor DEMANDS that Tom Donegan the Chair report the amount of our tax dollars that have been spent on the litigation so far. How about $80,000.00 and up. The next 30 days will be very interesting!
7:49 pm edt 

Writer for the Onion

Call it translucent non-imaginative, unintelligent. Call it pretense where ideas never rise but arrogance does.
5:50 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

Why is the town Planner Hiring a consultant to Write the Comprehensive Long term Plan?/

That is why she was hired. If she can't write the new Comprehensive long-term plan, then she should not town planner. given that she is town planner, then she needs to start to write this plan without consultants, without monies for outsiders. Let the Permit Coordinator do his job, stop attending all board meeting and take pen in hand, try a few ideas and start writing.

5:48 pm edt 

Re: Winslow Farm project
 
I agree with the letters in the Banner regarding a big slow down regarding the purchase of the Winslow Farm project in connection with the VFW purchase. The neighbors are going to get a headache and this after "working" with the town. Underhanded? Yes but not surprising. I also heard a person in the neighborhood has approached the town in the 11th hour and offered their property to the town at a much lower cost which will serve the same purpose as the Winslow farm property. Lets hear the offer.
5:43 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

"Librarians all over the Cape are joking about a little library like ours having a marketing director."


I live here and think this is true.  This is the consensus I hear from my friends in town.  What a waste of public funds.  The Library needs to cut back spending!  Only in Provincetown would a position like this be created!
5:41 pm edt 

Re: Jeff Jaran

"I heard Jarran won and town won't tell us until after town meeting"


So please be a good citizen and tell us where you "heard" this.
5:39 pm edt 

Re-print From the March 26, 2015 Banner

"I Like Cheryl Andrews's Writing But"

It is lacking in logic.  Affordable housing is critical in a city like Boston where there are plenty of jobs and a growing year-round economy.  This is now the case here.  Housing is not the problem with our economy it is jobs.  There are no jobs to support people and there are no reasonable prospects for that to change.  All this talk about a residential exemption solving a problem makes no sense.  It will make some people pay a little less but businesses and residents who own rental property will pay more.  And, who will ultimately pay this-  the renters of course.  Bad idea. 
5:37 pm edt 

Lack of Funds

The condition of Commercial Street in the area of St. Mary's Church is deplorable both for residents and visitors. What an introduction they have for their visit to Provincetown. I can see why the town has no money to fix the problem considering the salaries they are paying for some workers(make that non-workers) Some of us have trouble paying our property tax some town workers -two         workers, for example, are being paid to do so little. We should rise up and rebel!!
5:32 pm edt 

Selectman Andrews Wonderful Letter

Dear Selectman Andrews,

You have written a wonderful letter of then and now and while I agree we need additional housing let it not all come from our tax dollars. We build year round housing yet we have no businesses to employee people on a yearround basis. What businesses stay open yearround to employ all these people for all of the additional units our town is looking to build. And the seasonal businesses employ most foreign workers that are here on visas leave in the fall. We taxpayers were told the former Cape End Manor was upping our taxes and if it was privatized it would take much burden from our taxes. The school was another that has decreased in pupils yet our taxes still go up and up and up. I'm waiting for the day that we end up having to pay for a full time fire department. It will happen because  I don't see people beating down the doors to join the volunteer force.
This is when I seriously think about selling and getting out of Dodge.i value my hard earned life savings and am very careful how it is spent. After this snowy winter with no guarantees other winters won't be the same what tourists do you think will come and want to visit here that time of year. Not to mention very little is open
5:29 pm edt 

365 Group, What is It?

We happened to overhear a conversation in the Post Office the other day about a new group in town called 365. Is there anyone that can tell us what this group is and what they are about? Is it a new Alanon group? If so,  We would like to find out more about it so We can attend.
5:26 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

This position is not a bad idea just many years too late for us.  Now we don't need one because there's not much left to plan. We have an affordable housing specialist and if we hire a town manager soon then we still have the assistant town manager with planning experience that can do the job of the planner. This will save us taxpayers upward of $70,000+. Let's start trimming the fat. I'm sure there are other areas in other departments we could look to cut as well. All over The country businesses are consolidating positions and downsizing. I just recently talked to a woman who said a local Cape Town business took one position and consolidated it into two other positions within the company and eliminated the one position completely. The two other employees weren't crazy about the idea but were still fortunate they had a job with benefits.
5:24 pm edt 

Sunday, March 29, 2015

Re: Town Planner

I'm one of the majority who attended town meeting last year and approved the budget for the town planner. Proud and happy!

And I'll be on town meeting floor next week to approve the budget for next year.

To anyone who doesn't like the planner, and her dog, show up and vote. Otherwise, role over, rover. She's here for another year!
9:40 pm edt 

Land Bank Raid

Merging is not exactly what is being proposed at town meeting

if the Land Bank and CPC are merged then you could call it the Land Bank, Open space and Housing Fund. but it is being cut out, destroyed, the money raped from the Land Bank, moved entirely to fund --not land, not open space--but more affordable housing.

enough of this one-directional thinking. It is a raid on monies raised already in the Land Bank to fund affordable housing. I am not voting to take  monies we paid into the Land Bank and distort its purpose to fund, instead, housing.

what is being proposed is reminiscent of the three bowls magic trick. Move these three Chinese bowls and the monies for open space and land are gone. Blink and hidden gift disappears.
9:04 pm edt 

Re-print From the March 26, 2015 Banner

I Like Cheryl Andrews's Writing But

I don't think we should lose our Land Bank and only focus on CPC funds and thus affordable housing. Land is important and open space is important and our ability to own pieces of wildness will be totally lose if we lose the Land Bank.

this over-focus on housing at the cost of everything else is wrong and misdirected. some monies for housing but not every extra dollar we pay into our taxes.

We need both, open areas to walk, enjoy the woods, see the ponds, hear the birds, and feel the wind upon our face. This is something we all can enjoy when the housing helps only some people.

Keep the Land Bank. Preserve open space.
8:08 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

"Librarians all over the Cape are joking about a little library like ours having a marketing director."



Interesting.  name a few.  Ask them to post their comments here.
8:06 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

Dear Town Planner,

What the heck is your job. Is it to piss away millions of our tax dollars on endless affordable housing projects. If so please find another job. Oh and by the way, I love dogs but not at Town Hall, please keep your really big dog at home.
Thank you,
Someone who thinks your job is a really, really bad idea for this town
8:04 pm edt 

Re: Jeff Jaran

I heard Jarran won and town won't tell us until after town meeting
6:03 pm edt 

Re-print From the March 26, 2015 Banner


VIEWPOINT

A tale of two towns
By Cheryl Andrews

It’s been part of the ebb and flow of Cape Cod towns for years. People get old. Many move south. Young ones move in and replace the elders.
But things have changed. The number of people calling Provincetown “home” has declined almost 15 percent from 2000-2010 as measured in the federal census. And it continues.
For the first time in Provincetown’s history, the board of selectmen identified the yearround population of our town as an endangered species. Okay, we didn’t use those words but we could have. When crafting our annual goals last July, we wrote: “develop strategies to increase our year-round population as measured by the local census.”
What we didn’t do is engage the public in a discussion about what happens if we don’t.
I’d like to start one.
Provincetown is almost a completely seasonal town now. Fewer people are here during the winter. Even fewer businesses are open. And those of us that do live here year-round are older. Many of us can afford a winter vacation, preferably to a place without snow. Adding to the exodus, many of the folks that live here year-round now have plans to complete their retirement…somewhere else.
So, what does that mean for our town? Here’s what I see: Fewer people invested or concerned about our town’s long-term health translates to fewer people volunteering to sit on boards and committees; fewer people here in the winter means fewer available to plow your street, shovel off your roof or fix your broken window.
And where will we get the year-round employees for Town Hall, our local banks or for Outer Cape Health Services or the Stop & Shop?
The trend is clear. On this path, our town becomes a fully seasonal resort. The very small group of year-rounders left will be homeowners, over 55, financially secure with savings or pension.
A town that is almost closed for three months a year, populated by old retired people — “not that there’s anything wrong with that,” to quote Jerry Seinfeld.
Indeed, give me a few years and I’ll be one too.
I don’t see many of the wonderful festivals and fund-raisers we enjoy every summer continuing. Who will volunteer to run them? Most of the planning happens in the winter. Who will buy the businesses that we have built over the years? I bought mine when I was 29.
These are my concerns.
After falling in love with this little hamlet called Provincetown, learning her history, experiencing the beauty of her sands and waters, and enjoying the liberties of life and love that her people have shared with me, I just can’t watch her fade without giving it one last fight.
I don’t feel that a part-time town of retirees is the best we can do.
I have a different vision: a yearround town, with young people moving here or returning, to start or buy local businesses and energize our community soul — a younger generation to work, bring ideas and dreams and write the next chapter in the history of Provincetown.
I ask this question of my older friends: Which Provincetown do you wish to leave as your legacy?
If you share my vision, please support our housing initiatives. We must, as a community, build year-round rental apartments. Some people think I mean affordable housing. No, I am talking about year-round rental apartments available to a diverse group of incomes and especially targeting the younger workers, who often make too much to qualify for “affordable” housing.
The Winslow Farms acquisition brings an amazing amount of potential to Provincetown: the property provides excellent egress from the VFW and will allow construction of a serious number of rental apartments. And while I am mentioning Winslow Farms, let me be clear. There are plenty of questions about what we can and will do with this site. The serious planning will not begin until the town decides to buy it. We will need your help to make these decisions.
From my perspective it’s a oncein- a-generation opportunity. If we are led by our fears, we may lose it. If we are led by our dreams, it’s ours.
How do we fund these plans? A combination of local taxes, publicprivate partnerships, and creative finance models will be necessary, but we can’t overburden our current residents. I support merging the Land Bank Fund and the Community Preservation Fund. That simple change, already voted by 13 other Cape Cod towns, will provide Town Meeting with more flexibility when making spending decisions on open space, housing and preservation.
And the room tax? We must find a way, soon. Residential tax exemption? Yes.
I support refurbishing the former community center on Bradford Street into 11 rental apartments. Any new ideas that will support a year-round vibrant Provincetown will get my interest and probably my support. The main criticism I hear about these ideas is that they will take too long to help some of our friends that are in crisis now. That’s true. These plans will take 5 to 10 years to enact. We must help our friends as best we can, while we build.
Which town will we have in 10 years?
Let’s not miss our chance. The time to begin is now. Please come to 2015 Town Meeting.
—Cheryl Andrews, a local dentist, currently serves on the Provincetown Board of Selectmen. She also served for nine years on the board of selectmen, from 1998 to 2007, including the last three as chair.
rin

1:02 pm edt 

Re: Oh, Please. You Had Added Jack Tracken

I Assume that Jack Tracton Rant Was About Another Blog

It was not related to MYPACC, I am sure, but to another odd blog where Candyland herself was an administrator. Must be spring and all the pretenders came back to town.
12:01 pm edt 

Re: Jeff Jaran

Of course someone can.  Ask the town manager or the chairman of the selectmen.  they are kept informed.  or ask Jarran himself.  I sent a message to his girlfriend (wife?) on Facebook.  That worked too.
11:55 am edt 

Provincetown Publc Library

We want to add our voice to the outrage over the high salaries requested for the two un-necessary positions at the library, namely Marketing Director and Members Services Director. Members Services can and should be provided by the regular staff and was until the creation of this position . Librarians all over the Cape are joking about a little library like ours having a marketing director. Their proposed salaries are  $45,000 to $56,000 each . If this doesn't make you angry, it should. Call David Gardner. Was he the one who recommended this ?
11:38 am edt 

Re: Michael Shay's

350 Bradford Street

Bruce MacGregor is one partner along with Paul DeRuyter who is also a partner. They developed Whaler's Wharf and the Aquarium Mall property and the property across the street from the post office as well as the building where the old gas company was that is now Christine's Jewelry and it has a couple of apartments as well. Incidentally, Isn't  one of our Selectman and our Town Planner a tenant of theirs.
11:28 am edt 

Saturday, March 28, 2015

Re: Jeff Jaran

Can anyone say when or if the appeal decision for the former police chief has bEen decided? Wasn't it suppose to be known by now?
10:37 pm edt 

Oh, Please. You Had Added jack Tracken

This is such craziness. This is Candace Nagle back here unfortunately. Oh, how upfront you are! You are nuts! You think you are so open when you are bigoted, racist, ideological, and unbright.
10:01 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shay's

This is Pure Bull

Respect town people or some connection to the town for developing property? We should what--applaud those who make money and destroy our history? This is pure bull.

They may do what they do--either from the town or from outside the town--but please don't think we are the most stupid of the stupid to applaud their work.
9:52 pm edt 

Re: 350 Bradford - Michael Shay's

"Is anybody else troubled by non-residents trying to prevent housing for locals?"


Can you explain the real difference between me and my neighbor who owns property and pays taxes to support town government?  I am retired here for just a few years.  She has owned for about 12 years and does all kinds of volunteer work.  Her job keeps her in RI but she is here a lot and will retire here. So, you don't you think that she should have an opinion?  Why not?
9:41 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

"I do agree with the fact that there is little to none year round rentals and that is why our population is dwindling."


Wrong. wrong .wrong. There is no year round hosing because the economy will not support it.  Population is dwindling because there are no jobs to support the populations.  Countries, states and cities have been in this situation forever.  Look at Fall River and the mills. 

Get real and look at the causes not the effects.
9:38 pm edt 

Re: "Bunch of Losers"
 
"And as a business owner than I am sure you are pricing things at about 300 percent of costs and making a fortune. So what if you match dollar to dollar? You are probably only paying your employees 10 bucks an hour when they should be making much much more. No sympathy for you. Give these people a break. They have to do what they can to survive. This town has been destroyed by condos and weekly rentals but you all still want your toilets scrubbed cause you can't do it yourself. Constant complaining. Why not just bring back slavery cause that's how the year round people are treated. Geez, the price of a hamburger in this ridiculously over priced town is more than the hourly wage."



And I'm just as sure that you have no idea of what you speak.  if you are making a misguided effort to influence people to your point of view, you are way off the mark. I have never heard of a single person being kept from leaving PT.  If you know of slavery tell us.  People come and go for economic reasons since he beginning of people.
9:36 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shay's

350 Bradford Street Mass 40B Application

Bruce MacGregor, wife Karen O'Connor, is the principal investor and developer leading this project.  They developed other projects in Provincetown, Whalers Wharf etc..., they are residents in Brewster and sit on non-profit organization boards in Provincetown.  When Bruce MacGregor is googled it highlights him and the family trust as the main member of the Mass 40B application for 350 Bradford Street.

I believe this needs to be given some exposure since the family are business owners, partners and part of the community.  Residents and community members should work together to preserve and develop our community fairly, equitably and objectively.
9:34 pm edt 

Re: Rachel White on the Passing of George Bryant

Rachel White's Memorial to George Bryant

It is quite moving. I can see both of them sitting, discussing, and enjoying each other's company and valuing the long standing friendship.
 
We have lost so much of our history, so much knowledge and we have  lost a unique individual who was this town.
2:37 pm edt 

Affordable Housing

This affordable housing wish list is insane. How will you geniuses pay for them. Seriously, we need to pave the roads , fix or replace many of the town properties that are in disrepair and  hire a Town Manager. I have a business and seem to find no lack of applicants for jobs every summer. If you can't afford to live here then move. Enough already. And another thing, leave my property tax bills alone. Yes I own more than one property because I work my ass off for them.
12:50 pm edt 

Re: "Bunch of Losers"

Hey, let me break this down,

You went through all the time to "break it down" and didn't prove one point. And as a business owner you sound pretty bitter to us year rounders. Why do you dislike us so much? Did you just come here to "cash in" in this community and not give a crap about us? Because you certainly sound like it. Why don't you do us all a favor and quit hating on us. Move on please....it's very annoying. And as you would never say which business you own for the clear reason of needing our year round money, you can't have it both ways. Bye bye...
12:47 pm edt 

Rachel White on the Passing of George Bryant

I'm so very saddened to learn of the passing of my dear childhood & lifelong friend,George Duncan Bryant. I met with him the day before he died in the Provincetown Library,as we often did. George had been planning to do another local historical documentary T.V. Review of St. Peter's Catholic Cemetery,such as he had done previously re The Town Cemetery. Then he wanted to do Winthrop & Gifford Cemeteries! He had asked me two years ago to assist him in identifying the Portuguese... families lying at rest in St. Peter's but he couldn't coordinate it before until now when we met again recently! he suggested now that the snow was melting we could do a "walk through" in the next week or two to start the process. we often met to discuss historical things,old times,my red boots he inherited but hated when he outgrew his as a child! later we worked together in Town Hall - he as a Selectman & me,working for the Bd. of Selectmen,Town Manager & Town Clerk. George trusted that I wouldn't indiscriminately use a rubber stamp of his signature on Town Documents if required in his absence! We always sat together at Town Meetings in our retirement years at the very back of the Town Hall to discuss the articles before voting! I am so bereaved at this loss and the Town will be too for the wealth of historical knowledge that filled his brilliant mind! May the almighty hand of God carry him to a safe harbor of historical refuge to continue his unfilled earthly mission!Rest well my dear friend George!
9:36 am edt 

Re: "Bunch of Losers"

Let me break this rant down

"And as a business owner than I am sure you are pricing things at about 300 percent of costs and making a fortune."

How sure can you be?  Perhaps you dont understand how a business works.  People must make a profit to stay in business.  Without profit you dont have a business.

"You are probably only paying your employees 10 bucks an hour when they should be making much much more."

Some employees earn much more than 10 dollars an hour and a some earn 20 per hour or more.  Employee costs run much higher once you factor the employer portion of social security, unemployment insurance and workers comp insurance.

"This town has been destroyed by condos and weekly rentals but you all still want your toilets scrubbed cause you can't do it yourself."

Im not sure about other business owners but I scrub my own toilet.

"Geez, the price of a hamburger in this ridiculously over priced town is more than the hourly wage."

If a hamburger is too expensive for you then go to Stop and Shop where you can get a whole cooked chicken for less than the hourly wage and besides its probably healthier for you.
9:22 am edt 

Re: FinCom vs Provincetown Public Pier Corporation

"Could it be because there is member on the fincom who was once an employee of the Pier Corp.  Hmmm"


So this previous fin com member has his panties in a wad because he's upset that something happened in the past when he was a member of pier corp? Oh my god. Grow the hell up. And isn't it a little fishy that the banner says all these people signed a petition against pier corp and now one person is saying she didn't sign it?? Really? Don't you think the banner would have checked out all the facts before they printed this??? This fin com needs to but out and remember what their roles are, and it is not to be telling the bos what they NEED to do. What the bos needs to do is hiring a Damn town manager and a police chief. That should be their first and only concern right now. Yes, I can say this Becaue I live here and am a tax payer.For people saying we are doing just great right now is living in la la land. I think we need to also do psychological mental exams included in the background checks on every member of bos and bofs from now on. No one is working together and that is l!
udicrous. These immature people need to stop being a-holes and work together to get this town back to normalcy and end this divide which is so blantely obvious that it verges on embarrassment for our town!!!
9:17 am edt 

Re: Michael Shay's
 
You say six affordable units will be in this complex but you fail to say they will be pulled from the affordable housing list that includes people from other towns in Massachusetts. They will not necessarily be all Provincetown residents like you are leading us to believe.
9:14 am edt 

Friday, March 27, 2015

Re: "Bunch of Losers"

Yes the employer pays the UI premium as required by law. This is done in the employes name for the benefit of the employee in time of need. Thus it is a part of the employee benifet package. The same as the employer paying half of the total SSI.

A Rat In The Basement
11:25 pm edt 

Re: George Bryant

George Bryant was a Provincetown treasure and will be missed forever.
Does anyone have information about a funeral/memorial service?
11:17 pm edt 

Re: FinCom vs Provincetown Public Pier Corporation

Could it be because there is member on the fincom who was once an employee of the Pier Corp.  Hmmm
7:23 pm edt 

Re: "Bunch of Losers"

Or look at it this way. When you are hireing someone and are figuring
out what hourly wage you will pay them you have to take into consideration all
of your other associated costs, such as SSI and UI. This becomes your total cost
to employ this person. Thus your total cost becomes the employees total benifet
package, weather it comes oug of there pocket or yours.

A Rat In The Basement
7:19 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shay's

"We get little for what the developers get and then it is condos
and the tax rates are quite low. One real estate tax divided by 24 and the taxes
are low and they stay that low. The town losses but developers gain and that is
the game."



I am against the proposed development but i must point out a flaw
in your math.  You don't divide the real estate tax based on a single home or
property by the number of condos.  Each condo is valued on its own and taxed at
the going rate.  By squeezing more units on the same acreage you get more tax
revenue for the town not less.

That being said I think the proposal is way
out of scale and should be trimmed significantly.  Too bad they have the 40b
trump card to play.  They'll probably get most of what they want by playing
that.  Congratulations all you affordable housing harpees.  You reap what you
sow.
7:10 pm edt 

Re: 350 Bradford - Michael Shay's

It's astonishingly sad that all the "haves"
who have their 2nd and 3rd homes here in Provincetown are lining up to prevent a
development that would provide 6 new affordable homes for people that live in
town.  The head of Concerned citizens 350 bradford st. on facebook lives in
Boston...Half of its membership doesn't even live in town.

Is anybody else
troubled by non-residents trying to prevent housing for locals?
5:46 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shay's

Some people are classless & ignorant like the comment made here 3/24/15 about Michael Shay's Restaurant being a "dump"! That restaurant existed for many years through several transitions & owners but it was a popular meeting place that provided much pleasure & comfort to people  here for Weddings,Fellowship after funerals,Graduations, & many other happy occasions with fun & laughter! the one who wrote that needs to get over their anger!

As for the large housing complex intended there --- Sorry,it belongs in Manhattan! it's not conducive to Provincetown or the quaintness that the HDC wants to preserve in Provincetown! people who don't have a serious connection to Provincetown don't give a damn but for those who do it's totally out of character & not acceptable!!! Developers household word is "Ka-Ching!"
9:38 am edt 

Thursday, March 26, 2015

Marcene Marcoux on George Bryant

I think of George in recent years and I always see him riding his bicycle. and I always wondered how he could continue to do so through all types of weather. He was such a huge part of Provincetown. We have lost a wonderful person, someone who knew so much and carried so much of our history with him. This is a huge loss for Provincetown. He was and is irreplaceable. Adieu, mon ami! Tu est avec les anges.
11:12 pm edt 

FinCom vs Provincetown Pier Corporation

Why is fin com so adamant about getting rid of the pier corp? It's obvious that there is so much more to the story than what is being said. It's like listening to children who have another agenda and someone just doesn't like someone. I have never seen such hard workers in the pier. These people have to do manuel labor, save people who get stuck on the breakwater numerous times than I can count every summer, people whose boats break down, save people who fall off the pier, they enforce all rules of every boat owner on the pier, all the businesses on the pier,deal with thousands of tourists who come off the ferry and actually help the ferries when one in particular breaks down weekly and deal with the hundreds of angry passengers, people who drive and park right in the circle. I have seen them be disrespected numerous times from tourist who feel like they do not need to listen to the harbor master or the assistants.  these workers haven't gotten raises in years. If the dissolvement of the pier corp will get them raises then I am all for it. Please, just go to the pier any given day and see for yourselves how hard these men and woman work for this town and you will be amazed.
11:07 pm edt 

Published in Provincetown in the '40s

Eugene N. Fedorko:

We have just learned that george bryant, former selectman, town father, historian, has
died. i was so fond of that man. ave atque vale, dear george.
6:29 pm edt 

Re: George Bryant's Passing

WE MOURN THE LOSS OF GEORGE BRYANT, A KEYSTONE IN THE ARCH OF PROVINCETOWN IS GONE.
5:56 pm edt 

The Gift - At Provincertown Theater

ATTENTION PROVINCETOWN, TRURO AND WELLFLEET RESIDENTS

Tonight, THURSDAY, MARCH 26th is Townie night! Bring your ID and enjoy the performance for only $15! Curtain is at 7:30pm at the Provincetown Theater! See you then!
11:10 am edt 

The Affordable Housing Piece of the Old Michael Shay's Property
 
This is just a way to go around most town rules. Then, they, as many before them, will come back to decrease the six to four and then to three and they will be allowed to do this. consider what SeaShore Point did. the same MO.

We get little for what the developers get and then it is condos and the tax rates are quite low. One real estate tax divided by 24 and the taxes are low and they stay that low. The town losses but developers gain and that is the game.

Isn't it time to rethink  condos and the damage they eventually do to restaurants in town? they also use up resources but give little back in taxes.
11:02 am edt 

Re: "Bunch of Losers"

"This money belongs to the wage earner and they have every right to claim it. And should be able to do so without ridicule. Just as we will all someday collect what is ours under Social Security.

A Rat In The Basement"



I usually like your posts, rat, but you're dead wrong here. As others have pointed out, UI is paid for by the employer, NOT the employee. Furthermore, the rate they pay is dependent on collections as well. As a business owner I can assure you this is part of the reason you pay $20 for a crappy sandwich in town. We all work hard, even people (*gasp*) not working in Provincetown although we don't get the luxury of taking the winter off. Also, if you choose this lifestyle don't show up at every committee meeting whining about affordable housing. You CHOOSE to work here and CHOOSE to work this way. Don't blame people if they find you too unstable, economically, to rent to. And don't ask the rest of us to pick up your tab.
10:54 am edt 

Wednesday, March 25, 2015

Re: Michael Shay's

OH GOD, NOT ANOTHER HOUSING HORROR IN THE EAST END, ONE CAN JUST IMAGINE WITH THE OTHER BUSINESS MODELS THEY HAVE USED IN TOWN, THEY ARE AESTHETICALLY CHALLENGED AND OF COURSE DON'T LIVE HERE, MORE LIKE BREWSTER.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN EVERY DAY, JUST WHEN THEY COME IN TO EMPTY THE TILL.

MORE REAL ESTATE RAPISTS, BRING IT ON!
10:59 pm edt 

rfe: Former Police Chief Jeff Jarn

Has Jeff Jaran officially lost his arbitration yet? Does anybody know?
10:56 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shay's

When Shay's closed,I knew this was a prime site for a
large
Development. I can't feel any apathy for Provincetown at this point.
The Bos,planning board etc.make a lot of noise,but have no fore
Thought in there
actions . So let the rich keep coming,let the dunes
Continue to be razed .I
will miss the old town of ptown.
10:55 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shay's

"Yes I do know the name of the "certain" hamburger joint. Why do you think I used the term "certain". And no one who knows me has ever accussed me of being cute."


Ok, so you are not cute, but give us a better word to use to describe your little game.  
9:17 am edt 

Re: "Bunch of Losers"

"And as a business owner than I am sure you are pricing things at about 300 percent of costs and making a fortune. So what if you match dollar to dollar? You are probably only paying your employees 10 bucks an hour when they should be making much much more. No sympathy for you. Give these people a break. They have to do what they can to survive. This town has been destroyed by condos and weekly rentals but you all still want your toilets scrubbed cause you can't do it yourself. Constant complaining. Why not just bring back slavery cause that's how the year round people are treated. Geez, the price of a hamburger in this ridiculously over priced town is more than the hourly wage."


Who's complaining?
9:13 am edt 

Re: Michael Shay's

It must be the owners/developers of the dunkin donuts in Wellfleet, the art house property, the whalers wharf property and the old aquarium property.
9:11 am edt 

Re: Michael Shay's
 
It must be the owners/developers of the dunkin donuts in Wellfleet, the art house property, the whalers wharf property and the old aquarium property.
12:00 am edt 

Tuesday, March 24, 2015

Re: Michael Shay's

A developer would like to build 24 condominiums where Michael Shays was in the East End.  It will include 6 affordable housing units, which would allow them variances on all zoning laws, including perhaps removing a dune. It will ruin the charm of the East End, similiar to what Victors did to the West End on Vine and Bradford Street. 
11:58 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shay's

The person developing Michael Shay's is a business owner in Provincetown. His properties employ about 100 people. Movies are seen, shows enjoyed, takeout restaurants available with a waterfront bar because of this person's investment in Provincetown. So before poorly informed people start trying to shut down his newest project they should take a deep breath and maybe be grateful that the site will probably be more attractive than that dump of a restaurant that was there for so long.
9:47 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shay's

Someone thinks their funny with the Hot L becoming a Dept of Public works garbage. We need to house these guys in a place with decent toliets!What's funny about that?

No and no again.
9:44 pm edt 

Re: "Bunch of Losers"
  
"Can you clarify one point?  Do you also collect unemployment for the other six months that you are not gainfully employed?  Where do you think that money comes from?"


If I choose to collect all winter it is not any of your business.  I work very hard 6 months out of the year and deserve to collect.  You are just made because I get to take a break.
9:41 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shay's

O.k. so now you know I was lying. I made it all up. No such hamburger joint for Michael Shays. Just goofing around to see if I could get a rise out of people. My bad. I feel so evil.

But seriously I feel much worse about the proposed development. If we stand up together we can defeat it. We have to find a way. Are there any affordable houseing people out there that think this would benefit a good thing? Im gona throw up.
9:38 pm edt 

Re: Oh Are We Voting

"I vote for this intelligent and intellectual group and many of their ideas."



I guess that you don't really like the idea of lawfully limiting their power.  If they are so smart why do they constantly seem to draw negative reactions from across the whole town.  Oh, you are on the committee.  Now I get it.
9:30 pm edt 


"I vote for this intelligent and intellectual group and many of their ideas."



I guess that you don't really like the idea of lawfully limiting their power.  If they are so smart why do they constantly seem to draw negative reactions from across the whole town.  Oh, you are on the committee.  Now I get it.
9:28 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shay's

Michael shays will become..........

1- Upper End Condo,s.
    What a surprise !
9:26 pm edt 

Re: "Bunch of Losers"

The money people collect as unemployment compensation is one part of their wage compensation package. Just like one half of their social security. Or a houseing allowance for Town Manager. Or a car for the Police Chief. Or a year end bonus for a CEO. This compensation is not a social handout or a monetary burden put on the employer. Or taxpayers. This money belongs to the wage earner and they have every right to claim it. And should be able to do so without ridicule. Just as we will all someday collect what is ours under Social Security.

A Rat In The Basement
9:24 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shays

Yes I do know the name of the "certain" hamburger joint. Why do you think I used the term "certain". And no one who knows me has ever accussed me of being cute.
9:10 pm edt 

Re: "Bunch of Losers"

And as a business owner than I am sure you are pricing things at about 300 percent of costs and making a fortune. So what if you match dollar to dollar? You are probably only paying your employees 10 bucks an hour when they should be making much much more. No sympathy for you. Give these people a break. They have to do what they can to survive. This town has been destroyed by condos and weekly rentals but you all still want your toilets scrubbed cause you can't do it yourself. Constant complaining. Why not just bring back slavery cause that's how the year round people are treated. Geez, the price of a hamburger in this ridiculously over priced town is more than the hourly wage.
9:08 pm edt 

Re: Oh Are We Voting

"FinCom is appointed by the moderator not elected.  The people, including you, have no say in the matter."


Sorry to inform YOU but the reality is the voters DO have say in the matter. They vote to decide who the new moderator will be and there is competition for the position this election cycle. The new moderator, whoever that may be, will decide on the future FINCOM members.

Lets hope it's not MJA.
9:05 pm edt 

Monday, March 23, 2015

Re: Michael Shay's

Michael Shays will become:

1) Howard Johnson's 
2) In and Out Burger
3) the new DPW garage
4:51 pm edt 

Re: Oh Are We Voting

Oh, Please

You missed the point: it was a metaphor. My vote for the finance committee was a figure of speech in support of what this board does.

Oh, boy. Oh, my. Oh, please.
4:25 pm edt 

Re: Oh Are We Voting

"Oh are we voting "OK then I'm voting for the Finance committee and its hard work to keep our finances in right order. I vote for this intelligent and intellectual group and many of their ideas."


Sorry but not possible.  FinCom is appointed by the moderator not elected.  The people, including you, have no say in the matter. Also, maybe you can read about the legal power of the FinCom.  It has no legal power to "keep our finances in order"  It neither makes the budget or approves it.  The budget is made by the manager and approved by Town Meeting.  The BOS and FinCom can only Recommend.  Sorry to burden you with reality.
 
4:10 pm edt 

Re: Micheal Shay's

Rumor #1-- Hamburger joint (un-named)

Rumor #2-- "affordable" housing

Rumor #3--  TBA

Rumor #4 through 10-- Also TBA  (Possible 22 story casino in there)
4:06 pm edt 

Where is Our New Town Manager

Time for David to going back to what he was. Time to hire a new town manager and then maybe we can get a handle on our future direction. time for the BOs to do something--they are becoming impossible. I do nothing group that puts all decisions off to next year or next time.

I call them the Next Time BOS. Oh, not now, please. but, next time...

Grow some balls. All of you.
3:58 pm edt 

Re: "Bunch of Losers"

"Can you clarify one point?  Do you also collect unemployment for the other six months that you are not gainfully employed?  Where do you think that money comes from?"



As a business owner I can tell you where that money comes from: the money to fund unemployment comes from businesses that employ people and no where else.  As a business owner in Provincetown for nearly 20 years I can tell you from experience that contributions to the unemployment fund are equal to, or greater than the amount that our employees collect each winter for unemployment.  The bottom line is that businesses pay into the unemployment program an amount equal to or greater than the amount that employees in the specific business draw from the unemployment fund on an annual basis.  The program is not funded by anyone else.
12:53 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shays

The rumor is that a developer is in negotiation to purchase Michael Shay's
and the process will be done under Affordable Housing to allow the construction
time frame to jump to the front of the development que.

Here we go  again ....more affordable housing! 
11:46 am edt 

Re: Michael Shays

"So I heard from a very reliable source that Michael Shays restaurant has been sold to the owners of a certain small New England based specialty hamburger establishment."



Do you not know the name of the "certain" hamburger joint or are you being cute?
11:31 am edt 

Re: FinCom

"Of course the FinCom recommends budgets, isn't that the established process by which BOS and FinCom provide their separate review of each budget item. This is not a creation of FinCom's.'



I am having a hard time finding the post to which this refers. I only see posts that state that the FinCom does not MAKE the budget and others that state that the FinCom can only make recommendations. So please give us a reference to th post to which you so discourteously refer.
11:27 am edt 

Re: "Bunch of Losers"

 
"I work my arse off in the summer and make almost 38,000 Which is what most people make when they work 12 months a year... yes, we work really hard for our money".


Can you clarify one point?  Do you also collect unemployment for the other six months that you are not gainfully employed?  Where do you think that money comes from?
11:25 am edt 

Fincom

What is share stupidity? 
11:23 am edt 

Re: FinCom

This is a FinCom That Does Not Simply Agree With Everything the BOS Wants....
like Fincoms before them. It was the old game: whatever the selectmen voted, then this little group would rubber stamp. This group is not like that and I applaud them for doing what a FinCom should do.
11:18 am edt 

Oh, Are We Voting?

OK then I'm voting for the Finance committee and its hard work to keep our finances in right order. I vote for this intelligent and intellectual group and many of their ideas.
11:13 am edt 

Sunday, March 22, 2015

Re: FinCom

"Instead they want to create articles outside of the normal process. If the FinCom wants to set fiscal policy let the members run for BOS or get the charter and by-laws changed to allow them to have the power that they crave."


It begins to appear that your responses border on share stupidity.
Of course the FinCom recommends budgets, isn't that the established process by
which BOS and FinCom provide their separate review of each budget item. This is not
a creation of FinCom's.

In the case of FinCom, their findings are only recommendations, for public enlightenment and assessment. It is an address to the Town Body. Where BOS and FinCom agree there is 
unanimity presented to Town Meeting. Where there is disagreement, it is then left to the Town Meeting body to make the final determination. In neither case does FinCom make budgets or
laws in the performance of their duties.

As for the Town Manager's duties, they involve the control and direction of the various town departments in the creation of their budgets for presentation to the BOS.

It is foolish to suppose that in the performance of  their duties FinCom is operating out side of
Town and or State law. And  as another posting said, if they are acting outside the law, do
something; as opposed to rehashing the same tied drival.
9:51 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

"I will stand on my comments regarding the fincom as a watchdog over the finances of the town. Keep in mind what a watchdog does."


And what can a watchdog do to an intruder.  Take action.  Bite, not just bark.  Our FinCom seems to want to define fiscal policy for the town by making the budget in various ways.  No, the town manager makes the budget working with the BOS.  The fiNCom is supposed to offer recommendation of the ARTICLES to help us decide how to vote.  Instead they want to create articles outside of the normal process.  We have a set of laws and the charter that defines the process, we don't need to change the process.  If the FinCom wants to set fiscal policy let the members run for BOS or get the charter and by-laws changed to allow them to have the power that they crave. 
9:38 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

"What do we have a finance com for if you don't listen to them, they know more about what the town can afford than the BOS does."



Serious question?  Since when is there any logic or wisdom to take advice from someone because they exist.  The FinCom does not know more about the town finances than the BOS and I can't imagine why you think so.  Just because the name has the word "finance in it"?  Not so.  if you disagree tell us why.  
9:36 pm edt 

BOS Meeting - Affordsble Housing

Tune in or attend the BOS MEETING this Monday, 3/23, at 5:00 p.m., Judge Welsh Room, Town Hall. OR, you can watch from the comfort of home on PTV, LIVE.

The meeting will answer a lot of the questions surrounding the VFW/Winslow Farms Housing Proposal.

This is very important to the housing efforts we have all been talking about, and is our best shot at a large amount of housing in town. There will be other shorter term solutions, but this is an important one in the equation.

Please attend or watch. Thanks for reading.
9:34 pm edt 

Re: BOS - FinCom Joint Meeting

"What is there about 5-2-3 that you don't understand (which money has been, or may be, paid from the town treasury) which includes payroll."


Yes indeed.  the law certainly stipulates that the finCom has a right o the info.  Period.  It has no right to make laws, or budgets.  It is not an Executive board it is an advisory board.  So what is your point about "include payroll"?
9:32 pm edt 

Re: 30% Unemployment vs Affordable Housing

With nearly 30% unemployment this winter in our town, it doesn't seem that people are motivated to do anything but accept the gloom and doom of a seasonal economy so lets build more affordables.
9:30 pm edt 

Affordable Housing

Fewer and fewer year round residents? Here's one reason why: because we build "affordable" housing on Shankpainter, hold a lottery to choose prospective tenants who are then put through a screening process and, lo and behold, a couple of years later a bunch of them are living elsewhere six or eight months out of the year and doing business under the table so as not to jeopardize their "affordable" unit in Provincetown which they will return to in the warm, party months.

Great job, Provincetown.
9:28 pm edt 

Michael Shays

So I heard from a very reliable source that Michael Shays restaurant has been sold to the owners of a certain small New England based specialty hamburger establishment.
9:26 pm edt 

It Helps to Have a Sense of History

and see what others tried. I agree with the other posts. so many came here with so many wonderful ideas that simply fizzled. Meetings were held, plans were presented, energy was generated. and we are not the result.

It isn't that people didn't try to change things. there were other forces--money forces--that led to our present situation.

bring in all the consultants. It will not change the economic forces and life style choices that directly impact on this small town.

We have seen so many different ideas, plans, projects, and town-changing strategies that only made consultants richer.
Maybe there's a naivete that remains long after all the past plans came to not.
9:25 pm edt 

Provincetown 365 is Unrealistic

It is pie in the sky! It may be what we would all want and years and years back, had business meetings and school meetings and community meet8ings to try to make this a year round town. How many years back and what is the results? We have fewer people here in the winter, fewer tourists here in late fall and surely almost none in the winter and fewer who venture here early spring.

Provincetown 365 is a pipe dream from those who inhale the smoke. but it is founded on new people with fantasies as the foundation of their thinking and planning.
9:23 pm edt 

Provincetown 365 is Unrealistic

It is pie in the sky! It may be what we would all want and years and years back, had business meetings and school meetings and community meet8ings to try to make this a year round town. How many years back and what is the results? We have fewer people here in the winter, fewer tourists here in late fall and surely almost none in the winter and fewer who venture here early spring.

Provincetown 365 is a pipe dream from those who inhale the smoke. but it is founded on new people with fantasies as the foundation of their thinking and planning.
1:59 pm edt 

Re: "Bunch of Losers"
 
"bunch of losers who work 6 months a year, and then want hand-outs for the other 6."


Oh boy, now we are losers. How nice you are. I work my arse off in the summer and make almost 38,000 Which is what most people make when they work 12 months a year. And for my friends who roughly make about what I do, we stay all winter. We do not leave and go on vacations. We volunteer in the winter and we are really good people. Why is it that the ones who were born with silver spoons in their mouths cannot fathom that yes, we work really hard for our money? Not everyone here has a drug problem or are bad people. What is wrong with you to make that assumption? If you are someone who is on a board, you should be removed immediately and issue an apology for that hate speech you posted.
11:40 am edt 

There is Only One Direction This Town is Going In

An expensive resort town vibrant for three to four months and that is it. the rich do not want to winter here--and many have already left who once were involved. they want to live here for the best months--or what they perceive as the best months--and then leave for other more glamorous places.

That is what the condos and the upscale real estate prices have led to. some made money on the changes and others spend big time money to buy here. what they want and when they w ant it determines the pulse and the business of the town.

Provincetown 365?? How unrealistic! It's 160 days and that is it. Stand on your head, dance to the various gods, nothing will change this direction and sad reality.
11:38 am edt 

Re: Bos - FinCom Joint Meeting

"So put it in a sock. Housing and affordability are the reasons people leave mostly, or they get sick of living in a town with a bunch of losers who work 6 months a year, and then want hand-outs for the other 6. And here's another secret for you: if you know people, and you're a decent dependable person you can always find housing in town. If you're one of the above, not so much. Think about that. If you work 6 months a year and collect the other 6, what person in their right mind will rent to you? If you've been tossed from 3 places already, don't you think people know in a small town? if you spend the winter doing drugs once, you think people know?"



So you or one of your family members are obviously on Fin com or you are a board of select men because why would you so blantely defend them? And calling people losers and drug addicts is the most uneducated response to my post when you don't even know who they are and it's this kind of bullying I was talking about.
I HAVE year round housing, I do NOT own pets I was NOT talking about myself and I am NOT a drug addict. Were you not hugged enough as a child that makes you such a bitter person? Did you not get that special bike for Christmas as a kid and are still angry ? Let me guess, kids didn't play with you because you were mean? Or is it that you think you are smarter than everyone else? To suggest most people here do not know who is on town boards is ludicrous. Are you saying everyone living here is stupid? You are the kind of people who make life so unbearable that yes they do move to get away from the likes of hearing your drivel. What needs to go in your socks are your feet and just move the hell along.
"Bye Felicia" haha
11:09 am edt 

Thank You to the Activists

I think the state needs to step in and take over what little humanity this town may still have. I say come in, clean house and let some real educated people run this town for a few years and get us back on track. Someone posted an article from the banner from 2006 about the dwindling year round community and the bos at the time was adamant about making changes. And here we are 9 years later, it has gotten worse! There has been LESS round rentals and MORE condo conversions than any town should have ever allowed. Extreme greed has ruined this town, it's plainly obvious. There is clearly an agenda to make this an exclusive resort town and where the whole town will eventually just close for the winter. Pushing out the lower class of people who are the hardest workers here should be a crime. And for the people who are so cold harded and have ice in their veins to want to close a school where the children who live here and their families are the future to keeping this a year round community, let me tell you this, there is a special place in hell for you.  Thank you to the activists who struggle daily and have the courage to stop this from happening.
We, the ones who may not have the correct words or presentation that you do, are extremely grateful of your constant hard work and diligence to keep "fighting the fight". I applaud you all.
10:43 am edt 

Re: FinCom

I will stand on my comments regarding the fincom as a watchdog over the finances of the town. Keep in mind what a watchdog does. They watch for any good AND bad in a system regardless of what the system is. Watchdog groups can recommend things coming from agencies and they can discourage support for suggestions from the same agencies. They watch out for the good of who they are watching for, in this case the Provincetown taxpayers. To say the fincom is not a watchdog group is a lie and misleading, regardless of how you want to describe the laws and bylaws.
However, as you correctly describe and highlight in your posts, the fincom makes recommendations;
rec·om·men·da·tion noun

a suggestion or proposal as to the best course of action, especially one put forward by an authoritative body.

That's it and nowhere does it say anyone needs to follow the recommendation, it's a suggestion as to a course of action. Follow it if you want or not.

Voters, vote with your brains and try to see through the murky disdain the two boards have for each other. Their pettiness is bad for the town. Don't be fooled.
10:32 am edt 

Year Round Rentals vs Year Round Jobs

The reason there are few year round rentals is because there are few large apartment complexes in Provincetown like are found in many other towns.  The zoning bylaws do not permit high density apartment complexes like the one on Shankpainter Road unless a special permit or variance is granted.  Such a variance can be very hard to get.  The town should identify other locations where large apartment complexes can be built and then work with a local bank to fund construction through low income housing tax credit financing.  Once sites have been identified and financing arrangements are available there will be at least a few developers willing to step up to the plate to make a buck to build and operate another large apartment complex.  The next issue is the creation of year round jobs and that will be much, much harder to tackle.  Even if there were 1,000 year round rental apartments available starting tomorrow there would not be enough year round jobs to support the 1,000 new apartment dwellers.
10:28 am edt 

Re: Bos - FinCom Joint Meeting

"I do agree with the fact that there is little to none year round rentals and that is why our population is dwindling. But after watching the BOS meetings and all the fin com making horrible mistakes makes me wonder if that is another reason why people are leaving."


What an abjectly stupid thing to say. First of all, most people are NOT politically involved at all, and have no idea who is on Fincom, or even the BOS nor why there is even a Fincom. (how many people also ever show up at Town Meeting? How many people show up, and then leave after their pet item is voted on?) Secondly, if that were the case, they'd be people challenging incumbents from all directions like in the recent past. There aren't. Only one "show" candidate this time who no one even knows (except for bear party pictures on Facebook, a great way to get elected in this town? NOT). So put it in a sock. Housing and affordability are the reasons people leave mostly, or they get sick of living in a town with a bunch of losers who work 6 months a year, and then want hand-outs for the other 6. And here's another secret for you: if you know people, and you're a decent dependable person you can always find housing in town. If you're one of the above, not so much. Think about th!
at. If you work 6 months a year and collect the other 6, what person in their right mind will rent to you? If you've been tossed from 3 places already, don't you think people know in a small town? if you spend the winter doing drugs once, you think people know?
10:26 am edt 

Re: FinCom

What do we have a finance com for if you don't listen to them, they know more about what the
town can afford than the BOS does.
10:23 am edt 

Saturday, March 21, 2015

Re: Bos - FinCom Joint Meeting

I do agree with the fact that there is little to none year round rentals and that is why our population is dwindling. But after watching the BOS meetings and all the fin com making horrible mistakes makes me wonder if that is another reason why people are leaving. This political party that you voters, voted into positions is so embarrassing for this town. All I hear is "um um um" from the select man is just horrifying. They have no idea what they are doing or saying. There is no real leadership is town and now the fincom are acting like they are running the show. What happened? How did these people get into these positions? No wonder why we don't have people knocking on our door trying to be the town manager because who would want to? And the constant bullying on most of the Facebook pages and on here is atrocious! And this is mostly from our town leaders. These people should be fired for harassing people on Facebook. I have never seen such hatred and entitlement from a group of people before. And for someone who clearly is not stable to cut and paste photos of the town leaders in mock scenarios doesn't make things better. And people actually like her pics and just laugh and laugh. Grow up, seriously. You are not 12 anymore. Or actually, yes you are and that is what is wrong with this town. Please for the sake of humanity, stop this nonsense and get serious with your jobs leaders. The ones who were voted in can just as easily be voted out. And remember, you work for us, we pay you. Get off your high horses and quit acting like you are doing us favors.
11:41 pm edt 

Re: I Thank Fincom For the Dialogue

"They are proposing cuts and it is up to the town to vote up or down. but at least they--are proposing some actions, some cuts."

Do you mean that that they will be recommending changes to the budget or do you mean that they will follow the rules and recommend articles or not.  They have no budget making authority.  None.
11:35 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

"That's it folks. All the BS that says otherwise is just BS. We re a nation, state and town of laws. we can't make them up as we please. The powers of the FinCom are very narrow. Some wish they were more powerful but too bad until the laws change. So this stuff about them having the power to cut the budget is baloney. They can recommend ONLY."
 

What is there about the English language that you  don't understand. Your very presentments
refute your own argument.

The poster was pointing out the fact that FinCom was only proposing and that we citizens as the central authority had the right to accept or reject FinCom's advise.

The very laws that you site, both Town of Provincetown General By-Laws and Masss General Law
spells out concisely the powers invested in the the advisory body (FinCom).

5
5-2. The Finance Committee.
5-2-1. Hearings and recommendations on warrant articles.
(Town Charter By-Laws)



"...The Finance Committee, after due consideration, shall report in writing to the Town Meeting on each article that may affect the towns financial status. In each case, it shall make such recommendation as it feels best serves the interests of the town."


5-2-2. Review of proposed expenditures.
The Finance Committee shall annually review town expenditures for previous years and those proposed for the year ensuing. To facilitate such review, all persons having budgetary responsibility shall submit data for review in such form and in such detail as the Finance Committee shall prescribe. The Finance Committee shall provide for each account under review the amount it recommends be appropriated and shall add thereto such explanation and suggestion as it deems desirable and appropriate.


It does not say you have to agree, but it does delineate FinCom's responsbilities 

5-2-3. Access to financial records.
The Finance Committee shall have access to all records needed for the discharge of its duties.
Such records shall include
all books in which Town accounts are kept and all bills and
vouchers upon which money has been, or may be, paid from the town treasury
.
Upon
request from the Finance Committee
,
every person responsible for the keeping of town
records and accounts shall provide such facts, figures and records as the Committee may
require
(including the Provincetown Pier Corporation, which provided information only to the Board of Selectmen).

What is there about 5-2-3 that you don't understand (which money has been, or may be, paid
from the town treasury)
which includes payroll.

Massachusetts General Law 39
Section 16.

Every town ................by by-law provide for the election or the appointment and duties of appropriation, advisory or finance committees, who shall consider any or all municipal questions for the purpose of making reports or recommendations to the town; and such by-laws may provide that committees so appointed or elected may continue in office for terms not exceeding three years from the date of appointment or election.
In every town having a committee appointed under authority of this section, such committee, or the selectmen
if authorized by a by-law of the town, and, in any town not having such a committee, the selectmen, shall submit a budget at the annual town meeting"

What is there  about the term any or all municipal questions that you don't understand.

In summation, you don't have to like what FinCom proposes but as is obvious in the law, they have the right and obligation to present their findings to Town Hall Legislators (Provincetown Citizens), which they represent, without obstruction or delay. 
10:39 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

"They can say yes as a result of doing their duties to their position as fiscal watchdogs but it doesn't mean they're right."



More misinformation.  No where is there a "legal" basis for OUR FinCom to be a fiscal watchdog.  They have no power or legal basis to make the budget.  Whar follows is the sum total of all laws that pertain to out Fincom: 

Section 7: The Finance Committee
6-7-1
There shall be a finance committee as
provided by G.L. c. 39 s 16, consisting of
seven regular members and two alternate members appointed by the moderator for three-year overlapping terms so arranged that the terms of at least three regular members shall expire each year, provided that no more than one alternate members term expires in any given year.
15
6-7-2
The finance committee shall exercise the powers and duties prescribed by the
Massachusetts General Laws, the Provincetown General By-Laws, and this charter.
6-7-3
A member of the finance committee shall not be a member of any other town board.


By law
Town of Provincetown General By-Laws
5
5-2. The Finance Committee.
5-2-1. Hearings and recommendations on warrant articles.
The Board of Selectmen, immediately after drawing up the warrant for a
Town Meeting, shall refer to the Finance Committee all articles contained therein. The Finance Committee shall arrange and hold public hearings, so that citizens interested in any article may be heard. The Finance Committee, after due consideration, shall report in writing to the Town Meeting on each article that may affect the towns financial status. In each case, it shall make such recommendation as it feels best serves the interests of the town.
5-2-2. Review of proposed expenditures.
The Finance Committee shall annually review town expenditures for previous years and those proposed for the year ensuing. To facilitate such review, all persons having budgetary responsibility shall submit data for review in such form and in such detail as the Finance Committee shall prescribe. The Finance Committee shall provide for each account under review the amount it recommends be appropriated and shall add thereto such explanation and suggestion as it deems desirable and appropriate.
5-2-3. Access to financial records.
The Finance Committee shall have access to all records
needed for the discharge of its duties. Such records shall include all books in which Town accounts are kept and all bills and vouchers upon which money has been, or may be, paid from the town treasury. Upon request from the Finance Committee, every person responsible for the keeping of town records and accounts shall provide such facts, figures and records as the Committee may require.

MGL 39
Section 16. Every town whose valuation for the purpose of apportioning the state tax exceeds one million dollars shall, and any other town may, by by-law provide for the election or the appointment and duties of appropriation, advisory or finance committees, who shall consider any or all municipal questions for the purpose of making reports or recommendations to the town; and such by-laws may provide that committees so appointed or elected may continue in office for terms not exceeding three years from the date of appointment or election.
In every town having a committee appointed under authority of this section, such committee, or the selectmen if authorized by a by-law of the town, and, in any town not having such a committee, the selectmen, shall submit a budget at the annual town meeting"

That's it folks.  All the BS that says otherwise is just BS.  We re a nation, state and town of laws.  we can't make them up as we please.  The powers of the FinCom are very narrow.  Some wish they were more powerful but too bad until the laws change.  So this stuff about them having the power to cut the budget is baloney.  They can recommend ONLY.
10:24 pm edt 

FinCom vs BOS

FinCom is also proposing massive overrides for affordable housing.  Just FYI.
4:15 pm edt 

I Thank Fincom For the Dialogue

They are proposing cuts and it is up to the town to vote up or down. but at least they--are proposing some actions, some cuts. And please inform me what the board of selectmen are proposing? Oh, not now! Oh, let's wait for next year! Oh, but of course affordable housing?

There is no business left here in late fall, winter and early spring and yet the focus is on affordable housing? what are jobs and pomoting businesses? It's hard to advocate for year-round housing when you don't have year-round jobs and so few year-round businesses and so few year-round residents. Face reality--not the fantasy the BOS wants.

Magical thinking will not work.
1:32 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

Bottom line is if you don't agree with their recommendations, don't be swayed by their recommendations. Vote how you want to. They can say yes as a result of doing their duties to their position as fiscal watchdogs but it doesn't mean they're right. And to say the selectmen are spending without regard is wrong. Keep in mind, there is always a personal side to decisions either side makes. It may be a battle of personalities but the bottom line is vote whatever way YOU feel is correct. Neither side is ever 100% correct, proposing the ONLY way to vote. It's call being informed. As an informed voter, having heard both sides and both opinions, vote how you feel is the right vote.
1:17 pm edt 

Re: Facebook - Town Meeting

"I will respond as finance director and will provide information based on the town's financial records and any other knowledge I have regarding the warrant. I won't be providing my opinion, that's for everyone else.

Dan Hoort"

Thnak you Mr. Hoort, Finance Director
12:47 pm edt 

Re: Facebook - Town Meeting

"I will also attempt to answer any questions if I am able. The intent of the page is to provide voters with information prior to town meeting."


And under what authority will you answer the questions?  As a FinCom member?  as a private citizen?  as a blogger ?  What will be the source of the information that you provide?  Who will decide whether it is good info or not.  Will we have an open debate?

Response:
I will respond as finance director and will provide information based on the town's financial records and any other knowledge I have regarding the warrant.   I won't be providing my opinion, that's for everyone else.

Dan Hoort
12:44 pm edt 

FinCom

Kudos to the Finance Committe for watching out for our tax dollars and having our backs. The FinCom has always recommended on the money articles for Town Meeting. It's their fudiciary responsibility to oversee how are money is being spent in the best interest of us taxpayers and thank you to them because the rest of the bunch just keep wanting to spend and spend and spend. Again, thank you FinCom and keep up the good work.
10:00 am edt 

Re: BOS - FinCom Joint Meeting

I like MJA, however FINCOM is a train wreck. I will not vote for MJA as moderator this spring. It's time for a change of course.
9:59 am edt 

Friday, March 20, 2015

Re: BOS - FinCom Joint Meeting

"They have no legal right or responsibility for this None. None at all. They are meddling in the rights and responsibilities of others. Read the charter. Read the laws."
 
Your comments are total BS. The FinCom has as their right as defined by both State and Town law, the right to assess and  propose (advise) solutions to financil matters concerning the fiduciary wellbeing of the town.

A proposal and promotion of a solution is not a dictate. This is an issue, you
appear either not to comprehend or are unwilling to do so.

I suggest that if anyone has a problem, including you, with the manner in which
FinCom is performing its duties go to the State and register a complaint.

As far as I am concerned, you and yours are nothing more then the dregs of the past administration.

Your poor attempts at intellectualizing and pontifications have worn thin and are tread bare. Your repetitious statements of patently erronius  logic is tiring.

Time to put up or shut up! Call Town Counsel, call the State do something!

But Stop the Bull Shit! The citizens of Provincetown are not fools.
9:06 pm edt 

Re: Facebook - Town Meeting

"I will also attempt to answer any questions if I am able. The intent of the page is to provide voters with information prior to town meeting."
 
And under what authority will you answer the questions?  As a FinCom member?  as a private citizen?  as a blogger ?  What will be the source of the information that you provide?  Who will decide whether it is good info or not.  Will we have an open debate?
 
8:34 pm edt 

Re: BOS - FinCom Joint Meeting

"It seems That the Finance Committee is Trying to Cut Costs and they are trying to do it with resignations or attritions. It seems they are proposers--and that is all they do--ways to keep ourselves fiscally sound. They are holding back the roaring horses and advising us to hold back on expenditures."
 

They have no legal right or responsibility for this None. None at all.  They are meddling in the rights and responsibilities of others.  Read the charter.  Read the laws.
8:30 pm edt 

Re: BOS - FinCom Joint Meeting - Jennifer Cabral

I consider the Jen Cabral Piece Junk mail
 it is pure garbage. she is always on some wacky tangent and here she goes again. Please do not post her rantings and ravings. I don't go to this blog to hear her.  go to the Beacon if you want to hear her madness. Please no more of this inane, childish, bumblings.
8:26 pm edt 

Re: BOS - FinCom Meeting

It seems That the Finance Committee is Trying to Cut Costs
 and they are trying to do it with resignations or attritions. It seems they are proposers--and that is all they do--ways to keep ourselves fiscally sound. They are holding back the roaring horses and advising us to hold back on expenditures. 

This town, however, seems to want to spend and few speak for fiscal restraint. There is need in a small town like this for reasonable cuts. that is what they are proposing to us. Whether we listen, well, that is another issue.  
5:04 pm edt 

Facebook - Town Meeting

A Facebook page has been created for the upcoming Town Meeting.
 The page is '2015 Provincetown Town Meeting' The page will contain each article, the planned motion and any notes regarding the article. I will add annual town meeting articles over the weekend. Feel free to share any article to another page if you wish to discuss it there or you are welcome to discuss it on that page. I will also attempt to answer any questions if I am able. The intent of the page is to provide voters with information prior to town meeting. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Provincetown-2015-Town-Meeting/666295606830692?ref=br_rs 
4:57 pm edt 

Re: March 19, 2015 Banner
 

Before the Banner came out, I posted something in relation to MJA and the appointment of her husband to the FINCOM during the week. I mentioned he always tries to twist the issues and make financial matters a mess. Well, lo and behold, he was at it as I typed. You mention the town deserves better? How can the town get better people and better decisions if the town moderator is the obvious root cause of the problems? SHE is the one that appoints (and can remove) members of the FINCOM. And here it is in this site that people are jumping all over the person running to oust MJA from the moderators position. Keep her because she knows the town better? Seriously?


You can't make this stuff up!!

4:53 pm edt 

Re: BO S - FinCom Joint Meeting
 

"You understand the role of a Finance Committee, Right? The checks and balances, the questioning of how and where taxpayer dollars are spent.


I would say our Fincom does that job quite well, under the Chair's and Co-Chairs direction. I have no connection to anyone on the committee, but I have been here long enough to believe the committee is representative of our community."


Sorry but it is you that doe not understand the role of the FinCom.  The Charter, state law and local by-laws define the role, not the members or the Chair.  The FinCom has NO ROLE in CHECKS and BALANCES.  You will not find that fantasy anywhere in any law.  It administers the reserve account and

makes recommendations on financial articles to town meeting.  That is it. period.  NO CHECKS AND BALANCES. NONE.


The FinCom has very right and responsibility to conduct hearings to get a deep understanding of the budget or any other article of a financial nature.  That is the extent of it. They have zero rights to do anything more other than to propose articles themselves.  Read and know the laws before you offer an opinion based on your emotions rather than fact.


Here the FinCom is representative of the Town Moderators opinions.  They are not elected or appointed by a board with multiple opinions.  Only one opinion is voiced.  That is the LAW, like it or not. 

4:48 pm edt 

Re: From the Provincetown Beacon - Jennifer Cabral

"This is none news and none sense. No more. It was already read in public. We do not need to read Jen Cabral in an attack mode. Delete, delete, delete."


This is another very strange post.  Why are you afraid of the ideas that others have?  As has been said by a real american, I do not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it. 

So many dictators in history have based their terror on not allowing differing opinions.

Go live in Russia or North korea with the other rights deniers.
4:41 pm edt 

Yes, Yes, It's Spring!
 

Finally, spring is here! Happy spring to everyone. May the sun shine brighter and may our streets remain cleared of snow.


Let the daffodils rise and the crocus reveal their magnificent colors.


It's Spring! Let's celebrate!

4:37 pm edt 

Fin Com Revisionism?
 

I think what was most interesting  is that they wouldn't acknowledge their intrusion into personnel.


fin com votes:

-fire the town planner

-force the town to hire the acting library director and reduce the award winning library budget by 10%

-reward the chief with a 10,000 pay cut.


honestly fin com just own it instead of just dissembling and back pedaling.


I also hear the fire chief is behind the scenes trying to ram through the firing of the town planner as well as his grudge match with the PD on town meeting floor. Just wait until The Banner hears about this.  

4:30 pm edt 

 

April 1st and Parking Rules change


No more cars on Commercial Street. Parking stickers will still be good until April 15th--but be careful. It's so easy to forget.


So get your parking sticker now.

4:14 pm edt 

Thursday, March 19, 2015

March 19, 2015 Banner

I just read the banner. I see that fin com is trying to interfere with personnel and settle their scores by trying to fire town staff.

how very embarrassing for them. Provincetown deserves better.

10:26 pm edt 

Voters of Provincetown,

You understand the role of a Finance Committee, Right? The checks and balances, the questioning of how and where taxpayer dollars are spent.

I would say our Fincom does that job quite well, under the Chair's and Co-Chairs direction.
I have no connection to anyone on the committee, but I have been here long enough to believe the committee is representative of our community.
10:24 pm edt 

Fox News--Please No More


This is none news and none sense. No more. It was already read in public. We do not need to read Jen Cabral in an attack mode. Delete, delete, delete.

10:21 pm edt 

Re: Joint BOS - FinCom Meeting

"There are a few Portuguese descendants in control in certain segments of the Provincetown community and businesses, but the majority have faded away."



Of course there ar fewer of them but control in town reside with town meeting and there they have the votes. less and less as time goes on but still control

10:18 pm edt 

Re: From the Provincetown Beacon:

This is disgusting: what's Next? Printing Netenyahu's Campaign Speech

going against a two state solution and raising fears that Arabs will take over the votes!

Please--the last thing you need to publish is something from the Beacon. Let their own loud mouths scream to themselves.

10:14 pm edt 

From the Provincetown Beacon:
 

To the members of the Board of Selectmen,

I am writing in support of funding the position for Town Planner for the next fiscal year. I was chagrined to learn the Finance Committee had voted to de-fund this position in what would easily be interpreted as a political gesture by voters more cynical than I. Perhaps in its first ideation, the position of a Town Planner was not agreed upon as being necessary for Provincetown. But now we have one, a good one, I think, who has been thrown into the arena without any benefit of a lion map. She has survived despite some keen and willful sabotage. She is just beginning to come into her own in this asylum we call a town. Ms. McPherson has managed, despite a palpable lack of support from some high ranking members of the community and the government, to galvanize a room of 43 volunteers IN NOVEMBER who actually want to work for Provincetown's future. When is the last time 43 people showed up at Town Hall on their own initiative to HELP? The town is going on two years without a T!
own Manager and there is a lot of uncertainty about who is steering the boat. It is incredible to me that the finance committee voted to be rid of the ONE POSITION that has ignited the public imagination. Provincetown faces innumerable challenges -and another Town Meeting full of requests for funding approval for singular articles unlinked to any grand design for the town or its assets. It seems the most relevant position in town right now may just be that of the Town Planner, perhaps even more so than the finance committee...

With a pattern of behavior in its history, one can already anticipate a move on the part of the Finance Committee to raise this de-funding proposition on the floor of Town Meeting in some sort of calculated amendment, a preemptive move around protocol and established committee responsibilities. Remember the article which reduced the salary of the Town Manager and lost the town any edge it may have had luring candidates for the job? This is not how policy should be decided. This is how people play poker. This finance committee, running amok in areas well beyond its ken, reminds me of those 47 U.S. senators who took it upon themselves to write independently to Iran, breaching every boundary of protocol, diplomacy and common decency and undercutting the authority and credibility of the President of the United States. The role of the finance committee is not to create government policy by "getting around" protocols and pesky things such as elected leaders. They are circumventin!
g the process citizens actually need to trust the information they are getting, information that will help them to make decisions not based on emotion, fear or personality. I expect this Board of Selectmen to get the finance committee in check at last and force them to stop inserting their own policy agendas into forums not made to bear their influence. Really.

I also ask that this Board of Selectmen request, for the next Town Meeting, that after the Finance Committee has delivered its majority and minority reports, that the Town Moderator direct members of the committee to GET IN LINE FOR THE MICROPHONE ON THE MAIN FLOOR WITH THE VOTERS when they decide they wish to speak as voters. The privilege to stand at the dais microphone and hold the authority of that elevated position does not carry to their comments as private citizens. The last town meetings have had to endure a disproportionate voice from members of the finance committee essentially reiterating the committee's opinions previously reported; and to boot, they compete with only themselves for time at that microphone! It is unfair, unseemly, and certainly IMMODERATE. Please make this request on record, on behalf of the voters.

Thank you so much for your service and all the time you spend reading cranky letters such as this.

Sincerely,
Jennifer Cabral

7:03 pm edt 

Re: BOS - FinCom Joint Meeting

Creepy. When did fin com become the local republican party?

lay offs, arbitrary budget cuts, and fake financial crisis. dishonesty thy name is fin com.

7:00 pm edt 

Re: Joint BOS - FinCom Meeting


"Now it has once again begun a momentous change by which the "townies" (mostly descendants from the Portuguese)will lose control."


Dear sleeping beauty,

This momentous change occurred about 15 to 17 years ago. There are a few Portuguese descendants in control in certain segments of the Provincetown community and businesses, but the majority have faded away.

6:52 pm edt 

Re: BOS - FinCom Joint Meeting

"It is my impression that the BOS is more involved in playing politics trying to please the people, rather than providing leadership. They are using the FinComs findings, which were not easy decisions as a ploy (painting them as bad guys) to avoid having to make the hard decisions which will have to be made
eventually, at a greater cost in terms of treasure
and personnel."



From this post it might be inferred that you are either on the FinCom or know someone who is. SO, maybe you can share with us the section of the Charter or any By-laws that empowers the FinCom to offer proposals like this. All I can find is that they are supposed to advise town meeting on articles. It certainly seems like the FinCom truly believes that it is in charge of the town finances. I see no legal basis for that, and in spite of what might be well intentioned, it looks like meddling. The Manager does the budget and the BOS approves putting it on the Town Meeting agenda. Where does the FinCom fit in?

6:48 pm edt 


"Oh, yeah. Mr. rubber ducky surely does know the town. A fresh pair of eyes. You have to be kidding us all!"


More insults rather than cogent debate.

What is your definition of "knowing the town" and why is it required to know the town to handle the job of moderator. Try to answer these points without insults. Give a few reasons for your opinion instead of just giving the opinion.

6:44 pm edt 

Re: BOS - FinCom Joint Meeting

It is my impression that the BOS is more involved in playing politics
trying to please the people, reather than providing leadership. They
are using the FinComs findings, which were not easy decisions as a ploy
(painting them as bad guys) to avoid having to make the hard decisions
which will have to  be made eventually, at a greater cost in terms of treasure
and personnel.
 
My take-away was that FinCom was saying that there currently exist an
opportunity to reduce cost by not filling vacant positions, thus allowing for a
reduction in personnel, without any lay-offs. They also were arguing for lower
salary increases by hiring from within as a  first consideration. What was wrong
with that.
 
What part of "cost reductions" is it that the Board of Selectmen do not understand......
Erik Yingling is hopeless! His mantra is "affordable housing at any cost", without
any consideration for current and future cost to the citizens of Provincetown. He has 
not proposed one budget reduction. At least each of the other BOS members have
made proposals for individual item reduction (although not as a body). 
 
While the BOS said they could agree...they also said that this was not the time to
take such  steps.
 
Again they kicked the can down the road. 
9:51 am edt 

Wednesday, March 18, 2015

Re: Town Moderator

"Fresh Eyes? that is the Key Quality of a town Moderator"


Oh, yeah. Mr. rubber ducky surely does know the town. A fresh pair of eyes. You have to be kidding us all!
10:30 pm edt 

Re: BOS - FinCom Meeting

Can We Cut Our Expenses? Is that Possible and How can It Be Done?

It seems that the selectmen want to spend monies but I don't know what they would cut or how they would manage not to place the town in a fiscal difficulty. they want affordable housing--more of it--they seem to want to buy land--more of it--and yet not cut anything that I can see. It should be a give and take--not just take, take, take.

I'd like more fiscal restraints for this town but...I don't hear that.
10:28 pm edt 

Re: Joint BOS - FinCom Meeting

"If the Board of Selectmen Just want to Increase Taxes and Increase Taxes then let them just say that."


You don't really think that, do you?  Is there any possibility that you would admit to the fact of inflation, even if it is pretty small now?  It does exist. So if we have a COLA of 1.7% this year over last, how will the town pay for that without raising taxes.  When I was working, we had to raise our prices to keep up with inflation.  Is government any different?  Just to maintain a level of service demands more revenue.  If not from taxes, from where? 
4:56 pm edt 

Re: Joint BOS - FinCom Meeting

"It's the old Sharon Lynn plan--spend, spend, spend. We want a town that looks good--not necessarily one that works well or values diversity."



Lynn is really, truly gone.  Can you believe it?

No one has a plan to "spend, spend , spend"  The plan may Result in spending, but the plan is usually to make the town better.  You may not agree on what would make the town better, but please stop with the spend stuff as being the goal.  Of course it is not.

When the first Europeans came here they managed to seize control from the native folks. The it was all Yankees in charge.  The came the folks from Portugal who soon dominated.  Now it has once again begun a momentous change by which the "townies" (mostly descendants from the Portuguese)will lose control.  Sorry but that is fact.  many of us may really be upset by this, but we can't stop it any more than the original natives could stop the Europeans. it may not be progress but it is inevitable  change.  Learn to adapt and, if you can't, suffer the consequences.  Sorry but this is the way things go. 
 
4:52 pm edt 

Re: BOS - FinCom Meeting

If the Board of Selectmen Just want to Increase Taxes and Increase Taxes

then let them just say that. If they simply want to please everyone all the time, then let that be. but be up front about this. then forget about any attempt to right our finances.

this seems to be what I hear when I watch their meetings. Spend, spend and then, oh, yes, we also want affordable housing and we want to buy land and we want to take over Duarte's. It's a mish mash of ideas that all point to one so-called goal: spend and please the people. If the older, poorer townies can't pay, let them leave. the town is open to the millionaires who want more and more to please their eyes. It's the old Sharon Lynn plan--spend, spend, spend. We want a town that looks good--not necessarily one that works well or values diversity.
1:28 pm edt 

What Does the BOS Really Want?

It seems they do not want to cut any monies and they want affordable housing and they want and want. Doesn't that mean up the taxes, increase taxes to pay for what they want. I didn't hear any creative ideas from the BOS on how to resolve wants and yet not increase taxes. So it seems we are back to raising taxes and buy, buy, buy. this may not be the best fiscal direction to take.
11:47 am edt 

Re: Town Moderator

"Really, almost ridiculous. Unknown and yet running. You hardly know the town. Boy Wonder fits!"


Do you even know the guy?  bet not.  Why call him names?  How do you know what he knows until you have learned more and maybe even open mindedly listened to him. Did I say open-minded?  How silly.
11:44 am edt 

Re: Town Moderator

Maybe this is exactly what the town needs, new blood in the system.
Why people keep putting MJA in positions of authority is beyond me. What has she personally done to further the town in a positive manner that has tangible proof? Her membership on the BOS on a personal level shows nothing. To say she was part of a great group does nothing to explain her positive role if it existed. Now, with a husband on the fincom that constantly twists issues for the towns finances (who she appointed to that committee!!), same guy with a disruptive past as asst. harbormaster, (who she influenced the appointing of while she was selectman) is now in a position to further destroy the relations within by controlling the membership of the FINCOM which will apparently ALWAYS fight with whatever decision the selectmen make regarding finances.
New face, new direction. Out with the old, in with the new. Leave the issues at the door!
11:42 am edt 

Joint BoS/FinCom Meeting

Seems like the BoS do not want to cut anything. To start  Let's look at what are tax dollars are paying for.  It appears they are in no rush to hire a TM so let's just keep the Asst TM at the Asst TM salary and do we need to be paying for an acting assistant TM at a higher salary.  I remember reading a previous post that we had something like 80 house lots left. That's not a lot so do we need a planner when we have very little land left to build on.whats there to plan for us. We can only hope what few house lots are left to build on will allow for houses that can generate big property taxes because our Affordable housing taxes cannot keep paying for higher budgets and raises. Yet all we keep talking about is building more affordable housing.
11:38 am edt 

Tuesday, March 17, 2015

Re: Ronnie White's Passing

So Sad to Hear of Ronnie White's Passing

He was such a part of this town. Condolences to his wife and to his family. Also, condolences to Rachel White, his sister-in-law.
11:14 pm edt 

Re: Town Moderator

Looks Like Boy Wonder to Me Too

Really, almost ridiculous. Unknown and yet running. You hardly know the town. Boy Wonder fits!
11:03 pm edt 

Re: Joint BOS - FinCom Meeting

"They did not propose any meaningful budget cuts. In fact they
raised the budget. It seemed as though they were hell bent in
making FinCom the fall guy, when in truth FinCom was performing its duty."

The duty of the Fincom is to advise town meeting.  You seem to have  a different opinion.  please support that opinion with law.

Have you submitted your budget ideas to the BOS?  if so, please share with us.  If not, why not.  You seem to have a lot to scream about.
11:00 pm edt 

Re: Joint BOS - FinCom Meeting

It is impossible for me to express my total disgust with the BOS.

They did not propose any meaningful budget cuts. In fact they
raised the budget. It seemed as though they were hell bent in
making FinCom the fall guy, when in truth FinCom was performing 
its duty.

Of course no department wants to cut its budget voluntarily. 
Direction should come from the BOS, They are rudderless, going in
circles. 

With them the mantra has become "this is not the time". If not now When?
 
6:10 pm edt 

Re: Joint BOS - FinCom Meeting

"Looks like the BOs Just doesn't Want to Cut anything"


And, your recommendations are?
5:56 pm edt 

Re: Town Moderator

"Maybe the Headline should Be: Boy Wonder Runs for town Moderator

This is a joke isn't it? Stick any name and see what happens. Perhaps it is more ignorance is bliss. Hard to tell."



What's with the constant belittling and insulting.  What's with the "boy wonder" crap.  I sometimes wonder what is he difference in attitude among           ,                                     and some of the intolerant folks we read here. please note hat I said ATTITUDE, not actions.  Hate and intolerance is the sames with them all.   
4:06 pm edt 

Re: The Call of New York

'No comparison. Living in New York means six figure salaries so they can afford to pay 3800/mo.  Really, do you think were all that stupid that you can compare little old Provincetown to a place Like NY."



Did we just read something about illogical posts here?  Well, this is one of them.  How come there is so much poverty in NYC if people are making "6 figure salaries".  Don't ya just love these silly generalities.
4:03 pm edt 

Re: Town Moderator

"IF Bryan Armstrong knew anything about Provincetown he would not be running against one of the most loved and respected town servants, Mary Jo Avellar. He may be a nice guy, he might win some other contest, but not against our own Mary Jo!!
Save your money, save us all the pain in the a--. "



You are probably right about him not winning, but perhaps you can clarify the bit about "save us all the pain in the a--. " Thanks.
4:01 pm edt 

Joint BOS - FinCom Meeting

Looks like the BOs Just doesn't Want to Cut anything

What is the path we're on if the BOs just wants to spend and spend. Is their answer: Just Raise Taxes! that is what I am assuming from their actions. If you can't cut anything from our town budget and if every department is so special and so important, then the only solution to our financial difficulties is: Raise Taxes.  am I the only one to see this? do others think that is what the future plan is?
3:59 pm edt 

Re:Town Moderator

Maybe the Headline should Be: Boy Wonder Runs for town Moderator

This is a joke isn't it? Stick any name and see what happens. Perhaps it is more ignorance is bliss. Hard to tell.
1:06 pm edt 

Happy St. Patrick's Day!

It's time to celebrate! Time for the wearing of the green! Happiness to all!
1:05 pm edt 

Re: Town Moderator

So Much for rubber duckies

Really? for town moderator? You have to be kidding all of us!
1:04 pm edt 

New York rents vs. Provincetown

No comparison. Living in New York means six figure salaries so they can afford to pay 3800/mo.  Really, do you think were all that stupid that you can compare little old Provincetown to a place Like NY.
1:02 pm edt 

Re: The Call of New York

"Rather odd that would think so. What issue rents? what issue real estate prices? How foolish of you to think so".


Me thinks you have faulty grammar skills, to say nothing of your faux Shakespearen tone. Maybe you should switch off the box wine onto something that won't pickle your brain.

And it's widely known that if you're rich, NYC or places of the world don't call you (ah the sound of the Sirens) it's your call.
1:00 pm edt 

Ronnie White Passing

With Much Sadness to Note Ronnie White's Passing

He had so much energy and loved life. This is a big loss to Provincetown and condolences to his family. Ronnie white was so much a part of this town. Adieu!
12:57 pm edt 

Re: Town Moderator

I guess Running for town Moderator Means you need to be naked riding your
ruber ducky! Surely seems like an overwhelming qualification!
12:56 pm edt 

Re: Town Moderator

IF Bryan Armstrong knew anything about Provincetown he would not be running against one of the most loved and respected town servants, Mary Jo Avellar. He may be a nice guy, he might win some other contest, but not against our own Mary Jo!!
Save your money, save us all the pain in the a--. 
12:54 pm edt 

Monday, March 16, 2015

Re: Town Moderator

"And few can do it well. Mary Jo has done a great job. she knows the town and knows people. You just can't (select) sanyone--and I (can't) see this Armstrong unknown--as anyone be in this position. what a mess town hall meetings would be.

Know your limits. this guy surely doesn't."



This site seems to draw so many illogical posts.  So you think that Armstrong is "unknown" but you state that he doesn't know his limits.  Serious?  You really mean that we should believe your self contradictory BS?  You don't know him but you are sure that he doesn't know his limits. Poppycock.

The Town charter and By-laws say nothing about the moderator "knowing the town and people".  In fact, the moderator should be a person who knows the Charter and laws. Who knows how to run a meeting.  Is fair and open minded.  Has no obvious conflicts or biases for or against other town functions.  Knows State law as pertains to town meetings.  Knows parliamentary  procedure.  Then of course there are other characteristics such as having a good clear voice, having patience,  being firm with decisions.

Please be assured that I am not pushing the candidacy of anyone.  But, I am not tolerant of the BS as illustrated in the post.
4:15 pm edt 

Land Bank

So Glad that the Land Bank Remains the Land Bank

We need to appreciate and then to purchase open lands. It is crucial to all of us and even more important than a Ted Malone development that is only for the few and the select. so appreciative of the Land Bank and if vote to buy land, that will be a good thing for this town.

Open land is a wonderful gift to everyone. Let's support the Land Bank.  It's worth it!
3:30 pm edt 

Re: The Call of New York

You don't Think It's the Poor That are Leaving for New York do You?

Rather odd that would think so. What issue rents? what issue real estate prices? How foolish of you to think so.
3:28 pm edt 

Re: Town Moderator

Being Town Moderator is Not Easy

And few can do it well. Mary Jo has done a great job. she knows the town and knows people. You just can't (select) sanyone--and I (can't) see this Armstrong unknown--as anyone be in this position. what a mess town hall meetings would be.

Know your limits. this guy surely doesn't.
2:34 pm edt 

Re: The Call of New York
 
"NYC is expensive but has no sense of community. When someone in ptown, who has lived in town for years is forced To move,it affects the soul of the person and town."



Total and complete BS.  People can live in a community no matter what the zip code.  To be uprooted from anywhere can be a terrible disaster for many.  Your attitude is what is so very wrong with too many people IN PT.  You think that you are so special and unique.  PT is a wonderful place but so are lots of others, and it is opinion that makes these places special.  Some may love the wide open spaces of the plains.  Others, the mountains.  Other, islands in Maine.  They are all special to someone and no more so than PT is to many. 
2:30 pm edt 

Re: It Seems We Are in Perpetual Town Meetings

"If the town is run well, one town meeting would be enough."



So very, very far from the truth.  If you knew a thing about town government you would know that Spepcial Town Meetings are the norm.  The Charter provides for them because there are usually issues that arise that must have a vote of town meeting to proceed. To wait might preclude getting money or alleviate a problem. 

Why do we have so many constant complainers in town.  Why do we have so many that just love to slam the honesty. competence and dedication of others? 
2:20 pm edt 

Re: The Call of New York

NYC is expensive but has no sense of community.
When someone in ptown, who has lived in town for years is forced
To move,it affects the soul of the person and town.
11:55 am edt 

Town Moderator

"Mary Jo is a natural; she has done an excellent job, and is virtually unbeatable!! I pity the fool who tries. Who is Bryan Armstrong...? Just another outsider who thinks they can make the stupid Provincetown people see the light and swallow the Kool-Aid. Move on, there is nothing to see here!"


The almighty townie has spoken.  If you are not born here, then you have no rights.  Don't even consider running for anything, because "we know" you are up to no good.  We will glad take your money, but don't think for a second that you should have a say in anything.  Have you ever thought what will happen to this town when the current generation dies off?  Your kids can't get away from this place fast enough (maybe it is away from you...).  Someday, all there will be living in this town is wash a-shores.  Do you realize your rants are filled with hate and prejudice/ why can't people live in this town and appreciate ALL that not all the contributions that non-townies make is evil, divisive and self-serving.  You need to put your energy in to making a positive contribution instead of attacking a resident who is just trying to do something constructive.

10:56 am edt 

Re: The Call of New York

Whatever the call of New York means!
 
It would sure shut up you folks who think that Provincetown is expensive!
Trust me I am in both places and a one bedroom apt, in Manhattan rents for nothing less than 3800. a month if your lucky!!  5000 is becoming the new norm if you want any amenities.  And guess what soon I will have to make a choice and may have to move to somewhere cheaper!!  Just like in Provincetown!!   wake up people times are changing. You can complain all you like but that wont make it 1985 !!
10:52 am edt 

It Seems We Are in Perpetual Town Meetings

And here we go again. right after Easter, it starts and goes on and on. Seems we are not well managed to be in perpetual town meeting. There should be one annual meeting and that is it. But for the last four years, town meeting after town meeting. I don't find this productive at all.

If the town is run well, one town meeting would be enough.
10:50 am edt 

Saturday, March 14, 2015

Re: The Call of New York

Parsing this free verse work of confusion, one wonders if  the author knows the cost of living in NYC. Even if you've got a full time gig, you're barely scraping by. Ptown is (kind of) a cakewalk in comparison. But then, there's little chance you'll be bored to death living in NYC. You can always get lost in a crowd, rather then be roundly ignored at Stop and Shop.

If the author is referring to the state of NY, well fine. How about Buffalo for starters?

I agree with a post a while back, cocktails too early on a weekday. Lol.

6:06 pm edt 

Re: Ah, the Call of New York

Just Be Patient and You'll Understand the Call of New York

It has started but it will take many with them. So soon, so many, so much lost energy. so do know, even if you as yet don't know.
11:04 am edt 

Re: Bryan Armstrong Runs For Town Moderator

Who the Heck is Bryon Amstrong?

and he is running for what? Obviously a well-known, well-respected member of this community??

who the heck is Byron Armstrong??
11:00 am edt 

Friday, March 13, 2015

Re: Dan Hoort

Dan Hoort Politicized the Charter Commission

and then no changes occurred. He did do damage to the lofty ideals or dreams of some in town. He illegally held that position and caused many problems in town.

I fear Hoort is done with the town yet. He would be the worse town manager and that position would be highly and toxically politicized.
10:45 pm edt 

Selectmen's Race

Anyone know who's running? Is there a pool of candidates or just the incumbents? I hope Martin runs as he did last year. At least he made a good effort and brought to the forefront issues the rest of the candidates didn't want to touch. Can't say he'd be easily beaten considering the records of the bunch we have now. He might fit in perfectly.
10:43 pm edt 

Re: Ah, the Call of New York

So, has this become a forum for nonsensical free-form poetry now? Clarence, are you going to continue to publish this sort of gibberish on your blog? If I submit a pile of garbled nonsense like this is it going to be available for all to scratch their heads over?

Or is this some sort of inside joke that only you and your cronies understand? If so, could you please share it with the rest of us??
10:42 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort -Town Moderator

Dan Hoort did no damage on the Charter Enforcement Committee, he voluntarily resigned before there was any controversy.

He has worked very hard at his job as Finance Director for the town and should be commended for his dedication and attention to the department budgets, etc.

He is too smart to run for Town Moderator, and even if he entertained the thought he would not be eligible due to his position with the town. He would have be to out of his job for at least a year.

Mary Jo is a natural, she has done an excellent job, and is virtually unbeatable!! I pity the fool who tries.

Who is Bryan Armstrong, where is his residency, and what comes close to qualifying him for town moderator?

Just another outsider who thinks they can make the stupid Provincetown people see the light and swallow the koolaid.

Move on, there is nothing to see here!!
7:10 pm edt 

Re: New Year Fireworks

"Fireworks on NYE makes as much sense as Christmas in July. You're all insane. Year-rounders, stop drinking the water."



I don't think the fireworks make a lot of sense, but neither does this post.  Stop with the insults when you disagree with someone.

7:07 pm edt 

Re: New Year Fireworks

Fireworks on NYE makes as much sense as Christmas in July. You're all insane. Year-rounders, stop drinking the water.
4:22 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

"What damage specifically did Dan Hoort do on the Charter Enforcement Commission?"



None at all.  Some, who hate him, would have you believe that expressing an opinion that differs from theirs, is damaging.  He is one member of a committee not the entire committee and as such has only one vote on any matter.  Members cannot take action by themselves.  So, you won't get a single specific response to your query.  maybe a few personal attacks but nothing factual or logical. 
1:46 pm edt 

Re: Dsn Hoort

What damage specifically did Dan Hoort do on the Charter Enforcement Commission?
12:42 pm edt 

Re: New Year Fireworks

"A great idea!!  Boy, it is amazing how something different like the proposal to enhance the New Years Eve experience here in Provincetown brings out all the naysayers. I believe these same people would complain if they were being hung with a new rope. BRING ON THE FIREWORKS!!"


Sure is nice to have a logical debate about things when there are such cogent clear arguments made.  I read lots of questions about this fireworks stuff but nothing but zero response to any point raised.  I can't find much that could define a poster as a naysayer, but rather asking reasonable questions to help us all form an opinion that is based on information rather than emotional opinion. And, for that they are denigrated.  Only in PT.
11:14 am edt 

Re: Bryan Armstrong Runs For Town Moderator

I don't KNow who this person is but it is a better idea than some blog's ridiculous idea to have a write-in campaign for Town Moderator with Dan Hoort. Didn't he do enough damage on the Charter Commission and now this town-paid employee would find his name for Town Moderator.

I've heard he even wants to run for Town Manager--we should all run in the opposite direction if this does occur. Maybe he too should say goodbye and join all the once-hired Sharon Lynn employees who found "paradise" elsewhere.
Time to go, Hoort.
10:58 am edt 

New Years Eve Fireworks

A great idea!!  Boy, it is amazing how something different like the proposal to enhance the New Years Eve experience here in Provincetown brings out all the naysayers. I believe these same people would complain if they were being hung with a new rope. BRING ON THE FIREWORKS!!
10:12 am edt 

Proposed Zoning Bylaw Amendments

Proposed zoning bylaw amendments as printed in this weeks Banner

Section 2440 Permitted Principal Uses
is the two per lot  (each separate structure) now allowed by PB in the Res 1 district? Does the 20 go with the Res 2,  does the 20 as all underlined go with the Res 2 but says one accessory dwelling unit may be allowed in the Res 1 Zoning District only if criteria is met.

I want to make sure I'm reading this right because there's no mention of any rent controls if I decide to put an apartment or dwelling unit on my property in the Res 1 area. I read this to mean I can have a unit up to 600 square feet free standing or a unit that is 40% of my gross floor area as long as I rent it out year round but does not have to be affordable. Is this right?

I'm not quite following how it lines up. Could someone please  explain
this to me as I will be out of state when the public hearing will take place
10:09 am edt 

Re: Ah, the Call of New York

The Sound of the Seducing Siren

It was seducing when they first came here. Now New York is calling them intriguing, seducing.

Well, then, goodbye. Go and just go. Such is life my friends such is life.

If you never return, ah, hope life treats you well.
10:06 am edt 

Re: New Year Fireworks

NO to New Years Fireworks.
On the 4th of July it makes sense, but on new years the town is empty, and as earlier posters have said when would you do it?  too much money for nothing or as they say not enough bang for the buck.

Move on.
10:04 am edt 

Re: Ah, the Call of New York

Someone's cocktail hour started too early.
10:02 am edt 

Bryan Armstrong Runs For Town Moderator

How refreshing. Someone ready to serve honestly and not just  politics as usual. 

Mr. blog master, how long until you and your ilk begin the dirty tricks?
10:01 am edt 

Thursday, March 12, 2015

Wasteful Spending

So I ran into a friend from Brewster who is also good friends with a Brewster cop. We got talking and I learned that many Cape town's including Falmouth and Mashpee are pulling out of the regional Cape Cod Law Enforcement Association because of the costs and lack of adequate insurance. Why hasn't the acting Chief brought this to the Selectmen's attention? The way I understood it, these are the programs like the regional swat and motorcycle teams. I know the budget committee are looking at ways to cut costs and eliminate unneeded programs so why hasn't this been discussed like in other towns? My question is this; what do we pay to belong to this association and what do we receive in return? There must be extensive overtime costs to keep these guys trained and for what? How many times have we needed the swat team in Ptown? What is the cost in overtime? I was told by someone in town hall that this program is more of a way to entertain our cops! Really.....!!???? I'm also curious as to what the concerns are because of the liability? My friend said that the way he understood it was if something happened in another town, our town is open to lawsuits. The way I see this is this just isn't worth the costs or risk involved. Shouldn't we apply our resources here in town rather than every where else? Please, lets cut the fat and eliminate this wasteful spending.
2:57 pm edt 

Re: New Year Fireworks

If they have fireworks on New Years Eve what time would they start?
Dusk? Which is like 430. Then what untill drinking time?
900? So everybody leaves the restaurants?
Midnight? So everybody leaves the bars?

I have always heard business owners dont like the fireworks on the 4th of July because people dont spend money during the show.
So what would be the difference on New Years?
I have a good idea for business. Lets paint a green line down the middle of Commercial st.

A Rat In The Basement
2:52 pm edt 

Re: New Year Fireworks

"Fireworks - absolutely, it will be another impetus for year round economics."


This is clearly not the work of anybody with a shred of economic education or experience.  It is great to make such a wonderful sweeping statement, but where is there a single bit of data to back it up.  It may be true, although I tend to agree with the posts that discount the economic benefit if for no other reason than I have seen no fats, only suppositions.

Why would fireworks for 30 minutes at most on a single night in the middle of winter add anything to a year round economy.
2:49 pm edt 

Re: Ah, the Call of New York

What is this "call of New York" post all about?
2:10 pm edt 

Re: Ah, the Call of New York

If a statement is important enough towrite, it should
be in clear, concise English.  All I read was nonsense.
2:08 pm edt 

Re: New Year Fireworks

No One Sees fireworks as a solution

but as a wonderful evening in
Provincetown. It is nothing more than what it is. Celebration. Joy. excitement.
and the sky lights up.

It's fireworks and that is great!
1:51 pm edt 

Wednesday, March 11, 2015

Ah, the Call of New York

Ah, it is calling them. soon so many of
them will be there and not here. It is the siren's call and we will say goodbye.
It was the best run you could do and now--goodbye. To others, come aboard. The
ship is here and it is sailing to a new port. Our port. Homeport.
11:46 pm edt 

Re: New Year Fireworks

Fireworks - absolutely, it will be another impetus for year round economics.
11:11 am edt 

Re: New Year Fireworks

Fireworks. The answer to all the town problems.So simple. I won't go
to FL so I can watch them in our beautiful Cape Cod weather. Freezing rain,
snow, 55 mile an hr.winds, 25 degrees. Wake up. DELAYED until July 4th!
9:44 am edt 

Re: New Year Fireworks

"Fireworks on new years is common sense.

More people will be in town more businesses
will stay open more things will be happening."



Sorry, but I still have heard nothing but hopeful predictions based on something
other thanfact.  I would not bet a dime that fireworks would benefit anyone other
than thecontractor.  But, it is not my money, so my opinion has no value.  The odds
forbad weather are huge.  There would be no room at restaurants.  What would
people do before and after the 1/2 hour show?  No beaches.  No BBQs.
9:38 am edt 

Tuesday, March 10, 2015

Re: New Year Fireworks

Fireworks on new years is common sense.
More people will be in town more businesses
will stay open more things will be happening.
9:33 am edt 

Monday, March 9, 2015

Re: New Year Fireworks

My only concern is future funding. VSB for now, but look who funds July 4th?

Will this NYE event find it's way into the general operating budget funded by we the taxpayers?
6:56 pm edt 

Re: New Year Fireworks

Here's My Vote

Yes to fireworks on New Year's. Great idea. VSB monies to pay--that is what they proposed.
I say Yes, yes, yes.
12:02 am edt 

Sunday, March 8, 2015

Re: Strawberries

Old enough to remember he looked just like Jimmy Durante.
5:05 pm edt 

Re: New Year Fireworks

Fireworks on NYE sounds like a great idea, but really, is it?

Probably cold

Possibly snow or cold rain.

Who would pay

What is the ROI

Exactly who benefits and how.

many folks are gone for the holidays.  Restaurants are already full.

There my be some good reasons but I haven't heard them yet unless one thinks that the previous generalities are convincing.
5:03 pm edt 

Re: New Year Fireworks

Years Back, Fireworks Were Blamed for Blood on the Sidewalks and Aggressive Actions in Town

That was the reason the BOS then did not fund the fireworks for the fourth of July. Many people worked quite hard to raise money because fireworks are key to a successful business season.

Now adding fireworks to New Year's is a great idea and good for business. But now someone believes it adds smoke and dust and is not green? Many things in life are not green. This is a spurious response.

Let's get on with the explosions in the night sky! Fund the fireworks!
11:12 am edt 

Re: New Year Fireworks

The town has had difficulty funding the July 4th fireworks and now it is considering funding fireworks for NYE.  Did the town suddenly find extra money for funding?  Why does the town need to fund NYE fireworks now?  Is it to draw more people to town for NYE?  Is it for the pleasure of those who are here anyway?  This proposal does not make any sense from a financial standpoint considering the extra expense to fund the fireworks themselves, beside the extra expense for police details that will be required.  Moreover NYE fireworks will not be a great benefit to local business since few tourists will decide to come just because there will be fireworks.
11:09 am edt 

Re: A Few Observations

I read this and thought it was well put. So what if someone made a few spelling errors. Maybe they can't type that well and hit the wrong keys or maybe they deliberately misspelled the words to throw you off guard in who you thought could have written that. After all, how many people really remember the Strawberry Man Jimmy Pete. Not you I'm sure because you haven't lived here long enough.
11:07 am edt 

Saturday, March 7, 2015

Re: A Few Observations

To the author of "a few observations":

Wow... forget Town Manager

When are you going to run for Supreme Know-it-All about Provincetown

Would be impressive if not for all the spelling errors.

Sign me: a longtime lover of fireworks and scullyjoes and the "Strawberries" Man and Macara's Wharf.

P.S.  there is no F in tooth
8:45 pm est 

A Few Observations

Things will never improve here while the town, this web page, and Facebook is being run by people that react, over react, panic, but HAVE no idea how to truely identify a problem, nevermind fix it.

Cases in point;

#1 - Year Round economy vs afordable houseing - these are two seperate issues.  The push for "affordable housing" is strictly for selfish reasons.  Either you came here 20 years ago, stayed, and now regret that you didn't make something of your llfe so you can't afford to stay here, OR you happened to have been lucky enough to have been born and reaised here and feel entitled to stay.  Whether you have EARNED that right or not.  Guess what, you have not.

#2 - The second Home owners VS the Fishermen that "built this town. - Again one has nothing to do with the other.  The fishing industry has been dying for years, not because of second homeowners, but because that is just the way that things happened.  Larger corporate fishing vessels, government regualtions, etc have killed the fishing industry  If you would have your way, The local blacksmith shop would still be here and CARS would be banned as letting cars into the town would have put the local blacksmith out of business.  Town needs to adapt or die.  Stop complaining and adapt.

#3 - The arbitrary way that the board of selectmen deal with ANY of the issues.  For example, I watched the recent meeting where a local Pizza Restaurant was asking for additional seating.  The board first asked for the business to stay open until Jan 1st.  The owner said she could not. Then the Selectmen just started throwing out dates?  How about the 15th of December? How about????  What was the basis for these guesses?  Did they ask the business owner things like "If you get X more seats" what is the latest you could stay open in the season and still make a profit?  Then they could have uded  this as a starting point and then go from there? Perhaps come to an agreement (win/win) with the owner.   No, they just arbitrarily threw out dates.

Granted, it appeared the owner was very combative and in all honesty I wasn't sure how well prepared she was either, but the whole process seemed very unprofessional.   Frankly, If I hear one more person say "well Victor's did it", I am going to scream.  If another Restaurant in town did something illegal, then town should step up and take the seats away.  If they did nothing illegal, then shut up.  If the restaurant somehow got away with something, then get a lawyer, and force the town to let you do the same thing.  Otherwise Just LET IT GO.

#4 - Dumb ideas like Fireworks on New Years Eve.  That is just as smart as using most of the PGB's advertising money on events that ALREADY sell out town (like bear week and Carnival).  Let's use our money more wisely during the shoulder seasons.  The Crown does a good job of staging events in Sep, Oct and Nov, and the Tennessee Williams festival and film fest are great at bringing in people, lets help boost the entire season.  Not just an already busy New Years Eve weekend.

I am pretty sure that our F&B establishments cannot handle additional crowds on NYE anyway.  I have had nothing but bad experiances when I attempted to eat out on NYE here because of bad food, bad service and restaurants that are short staffed

#5 Last, how about the lack of enforcement or UNDERSTANDING of who is responsible for clearing sidewalks of snow during snow events?  Where are the fines for the building owners on comercial street that failed to clear their sidewalks this winter?  How much lost revenue in fines did we miss there?  Doesn't matter if the owner is in town or not, they MUST clear sidewalks within 48 hours or be at risk of a fine from the town. 
6:29 pm est 

Re: New Year Fireworks

"Are You Out of Your Mind?

Now fireworks are not part of being green. This is ridiculous and you fail to understand green. this is just nuts and I can't believe your brain is so tiny that it has shrunk into madness."



Wow!!! Strong comments to follow>

The post to which you refer seemed to be very well intended.  Some of the facts about chemistry were were not quite accurate but that's ok.  The damage done from occasional fireworks is probably very limited and would produce little long term effects. 

Did the quoter comments really indicate so much intolerance and bad humor?
6:23 pm est 

Re: New Year Fireworks

Fireworks are Great and So Much Fun

Why wouldn't we want fireworks for New Year's? It adds to the celebration and would increase business. and increasing business is so central to life in this community.

I look forward to New Year's Eve and fireworks. A great way to welcome in the new year
1:33 pm est 

Re: New Year Fireworks

Are You Out of Your Mind?

Now fireworks are not part of being green. This is ridiculous and you fail to understand green. this is just nuts and I can't believe your brain is so tiny that it has shrunk into madness.
1:31 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Pier Corporation

"I had the good fortune to work on the pier this past summer
and witnessed first hand the excellent job Rex and his staff did with managing the thousands of people that come and go from there every day during peak season."


That could have been written by a member of the Pier Corp.  The problem is that they don't know how to manage money, taxpayer money.

It kind of makes me wonder why they are working so hard to keep the town out of their business.  Are they hiding something?
1:29 pm est 

Provincetown Pier Corporation

I had the good fortune to work on the pier this past summer
and witnessed first hand the excellent job Rex and his staff did with managing
the thousands of people that come and go from there every day during peak
season. They were always friendly and flexible.  My fear is that if the town
gets it's hands on this well run group they will mess it up like the have every
other thing they get their hands on. I say leave well enough alone. This is just
a power grab on the part of our part-time politicians. Please think before you
go passing another vendetta filled article at town meeting. Our elected and
appointed officials can not handle the tasks they are currently trusted with.
Adding another department to an already over worked system is ridiculous.
9:46 am est 

Re: New Year Fireworks

Yes, we still need fireworks.
9:43 am est 

Friday, March 6, 2015

Warrant Article 35

Article 35:

Amend Special Legislation Regarding Provincetown Public Pier
Corporation. To see if the Town will vote to amend the Special Legislation
regarding the Provincetown Pier Corp. to convert the Pier Corp. into a Town
Board subject to the charter, bylaws and financial regulations and processes
of the Town.

The Board would be appointed by the Selectmen and would oversee the
Pier, Harbor and any other Waterfront activities which the Town deemed
appropriate, or take any other action relative thereto.

(Requested by Michael Canizales and others)
9:27 pm est 

Qualified Candidates

I think many want people who are qualified to apply for positions

I feel many are tired of people being appointed who are not qualified and are
given six months or a year to be qualified. We often did this with building
commissioners and now with our health agents. And that is why some don't want a
non-librarian applying for a library director positions. People want the minimum
qualifications to be upheld. We have wonderful people working in wonderful jobs
but that doesn't mean they can apply for any position in town.
8:17 pm est 

New Year Fireworks

Provincetown prides itself on being green so DO WE REALLY NEED
FIREWORKS TO BRING IN THE NEW YEAR?

Fireworks produce smoke and dust that
contain various heavy metals, sulfur-coal compounds and other noxious chemicals.
Barium, for example, is used to produce brilliant green colors in fireworks
displays, despite being poisonous and radioactive. Copper compounds are used to
produce blue colors, containing dioxin, which has been linked to cancer.
Cadmium, lithium, antimony, rubidium, strontium, lead and potassium nitrate are
also commonly used to produce different effects, even though they can cause a
host of respiratory and other health problems.

The chemicals and heavy metals
used in fireworks also take their toll on the environment, contributing to water
supply contamination and even acid rain. Their use also deposits physical litter
on the ground, in our lakes and right into our Bay.

PERHAPS a laser light
show can wow a crowd without the negative environmental side effects associated
with fireworks.

-TH
8:09 pm est 

From: Mike Canizales, Chairman of the Finance Committee

OK "housing" folks are you with us or against us<grin>? Please show up at Town Meeting. Thanks to fincom for their work.

Article 20– Finance Committee Petitioned Article
To see if the Town will vote to petition the General Court for a Special Act creating a Year Round Rental Housing Trust; or to take any other action relative thereto.
[Requested by the Finance Committee]

NOTE FROM MIKE. The intent here is to buy year round rental units that workers who can occupy them for at least 10 months a year and do not sublet them can live. These are targeted toward working/middle class workers from local businesses such as Outercape, the Town, etc. This particular article is not focused on low income housing as those (very important) units have grants and other funding available.

Non Affordable year round rentals are virtually impossible to get the private sector to build or buy. These articles come after public meeting and hearing in the Fall that was attended by several on this page and beyond.

YES WE KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS INCLUDING:

• How will trustees be appointed?
• What qualifications are required/needed in a trustee?
• What role, if any, will town meeting have in the trust?
• Will the trust pay property taxes? How will the town be compensated for property taxes on the property?
• Who will manage the properties?
• Who will collect the rents?
• What other receipts may go into the trust?
• Who is the custodian of the trust’s funds?
• Who will lease the properties?
• Who will maintain the properties?
• Will the trust need a maintenance fund for major projects?

We’ll be ready to start answering these at Town Meeting and beyond if we get the nod to start the process.

Article 21– Finance Committee Petitioned Article
To see if the Town will vote to raise and appropriate the sum of $2,500,000 for the purpose of creating year-round rental housing in the Town, provided that such appropriation shall be contingent on the passage of a Proposition 2 and ½ capital exclusion ballot question; or to take any other action relative thereto.
[Requested by the Finance Committee]

Article 22– Finance Committee Petitioned Article
To see if the Town will vote to raise and appropriate the sum of $250,000 for the purpose of creating year-round rental housing in the Town; or to take any other action relative thereto.
[Requested by the Finance Committee]

NOTE FROM MIKE: We’d look to make this a permanent add to operating budget. Total over 10 years $2,500,000

Article 27– Finance Committee Petitioned Article (non-binding resolution)
To see if the town will vote to recommend that the Town Treasurer employ a firm to whom the tax title receivables will be sold. No receivables will be sold for properties that are current in a payment plan approved by the Treasurer. Net receipts from the sales of the receivable shall be appropriated into the Year-Round Housing Trust at a future town meeting.
[Requested by the Finance Committee]

NOTE FROM MIKE: This would put $1.2M or so in IMMEDIATELY in the above housing trust.

Total this year from these articles toward immediate housing $3,700,000!!! Total over 10 years $5,950,000 not including future appropriations OR rent earned. I’m challenging you all to get behind this.
8:03 pm est 

Re: Town Hall Disrepair

You Had Many People Hired by Sharon Lynn

who were the best candidates for their positions. Some came with baggage;
others were not fullyqualified for their positions. that many have left--without being
protected by Sharon Lynn--is a good result. Provincetown is better without them.

What we need is a new town manager who does not play favorites, does not write
self-serving contracts for the police chief, and is open to all candidates in choosing the
best.
1:51 pm est 

Provincetown Public Library

It is disturbing that there are people in Provincetown who feel that they alone should determine who is selected for library director or town manager.A process was set up to evaluate applicants on merits and select the best candidate for the job. Matt Clark had the right to apply for the job and be evaluated just like everyone else. Obviously a small group thought it was possible he might not be qualified and so tried to circumvent the process and get him approved by their judgement alone. Many people have opinions completely contrary to the letters and article published in the Banner. Let the search committee do it's job.
10:05 am est 

Re: Town Hall Disrepair

Great post about town hall and expectations of being maintenance free. Some folks just can't resist the impulse to denigrate everything. Anonymity helps them feel important by putting down everybody that has enjoyed some measure of success.
10:01 am est 

Thursday, March 5, 2015

Re: Town Hall Disrepair

We spent millions and  millions for the building to last for at least one generation and now??

What kind of paint do you use that lasts a "generation"?  I'd like to know so I'll never have to paint my house again in my lifetime.  If you wanted maintenance free you should have used vinyl.  That wouldn't fly with the historic district so good luck with that.

As far as leaks, are they recent and related to ice dams and or excessive snow?  Many of us have had water intrusions this winter?  I've had a couple leaks due to the damn ice dams myself.

As far as the steps go, they are made of wood and used by thousands of townies and tourists every year.  Are they too supposed to go a "generation" without maintenance while being trod upon by thousands of feet every year?

Maybe you could station yourself at the foot of the steps in high season and ask everyone to remove their shoes before going up the steps!  If you wanted steps that might last a generation, you should have used granite with brass railings.  That wouldn't fly with the historic district so good luck with that.
9:24 pm est 

Re: Town Hall Disrepair

That Must Be a Mistake

How could the building commissioner also be the Supervisor of the town Hall renovations? It couldn't be the same person. Are you sure this is correct? If it is, then there was some questionable dealings.
9:19 pm est 

Re: Town Hall Disrepair

I said:

"She may have favored the architect, but she did not hire
them. She had no legal ability to contractually bind the town in any way. She
had her opinions which the BOS could follow or not. It is 100% the call of the
BOS to sign contracts not matter who you want to blame."

You said:
"That is
totally inaccurate. Sharon Lynn as Town Manager was mandated by Town Charter to
perform the function of Purchasing Agent for the Town of Provincetown; and as
such had the responsibility for overseeing and approving all contracts
associated with the rehabilitation of Town Hall. Based on her recommendation,
the BOS approved her selections as recommended."

Please tell me how the
statements differ. As purchasing administrator she may have been responsible for
the process of finding and recommending a firm to do the work, but she had NO,
repeat NO, authority to contractually bind the town.  It was the responsibility
and duty of the BOS to review her work before committing the town. There was
ample time and authority to confirm the direction chosen.

By the way, I'm
glad that she is gone along with her buddy the Chief.
9:16 pm est 

Provincetown Library

"The library trustees sent out a letter stating that 300,000 people used the library last year. As someone pointed out, that is over 800 people a day, 365 days a year."


This has to be a mistake!  There is NO WAY this can be correct.  Are you sure of your facts?
1:25 pm est 

Re: Town Hall Disrepair

"She may have favored the architect, but she did not hire them. She had no legal ability to contractually bind the town in any way. She had her opinions which the BOS could follow or not. It is 100% the call of the BOS to sign contracts not matter who you want to blame."


That is totally inaccurate. Sharon Lynn as Town Manager was mandated by Town Charter to perform the function of Purchasing Agent for the Town of Provincetown; and as such had the responsibility for
overseeing and approving all contracts associated with the rehabilitation of Town Hall. Based on
her recommendation, the BOS approved her selections as recommended.

In fact, the chosen architect's contract was not the lowest. Initially, the Architect Selection Committee
selected another lower priced architect proposal, but was overrode by a Lynn reconstituted Selection Committee. 
1:14 pm est 

Re: Town Hall Disrepair

"Sharon Lynn did Select and Favor the McKinley architects for town hall and also she favored them for the library renovations

The pealing is everywhere and not where the water damage is. the rust on railings is significant. and the stairs look so old that they should be replaced. We spent almost $13 million even though that amount is always lowered. We even had the building Commissioner as the contractor for the town hall renovations as per Sharon Lynn's request."



She may have favored the architect, but she did not hire them.  She had no legal ability to contractually bind the town in any way.   She had her opinions which the BOS could follow or not.  It is 100% the call of the BOS to sign contracts not matter who you want to blame.

I have taken a close look at the pealing and don't see what you see.  The stairs are exposed to the elements and naturally will look it.  I can't find any structural damage to the railings caused by the rust.  This is Provincetown we have enormous humidity year round and salt saturated winds.  What do you expect.  Look at cars and you'll see rust all under them.  This kind of attack is what makes it so difficult to attract and hold good people here.  Always finding fault and expecting perfection when it is never possible. 
12:04 pm est 

Re: Town Hall Disrepair

Sharon Lynn did Select and Favor the McKinley architects for town hall and also she favored them for the library renovations

the pealing is everywhere and not where the water damage is. the rust on railings is significant. and the stairs look so old that they should be replaced. We spent almost $13 million even though that amount is always lowered. We even had the building Commissioner as the contractor for the town hall renovations as per Sharon Lynn's request. It was illegal. He cannot both be the contractor/supervisor and also the building commissioner who assesses the supervisor's work. But he was paid two positions under Sharon Lynn's authority. She liked him and hired him but the work remains problematic.
10:55 am est 

Provincetown Public Library

It is past time for those of us who want a qualified, experienced librarian to be selected for Library Director. Some supporters of the interim director are making it sound as though most people are in favor of him. On the contrary, most of the people we have spoken to are not in favor  of having someone who had no qualifications to have been hired as an assistant much less appointed as interim director over experienced staff members. His supporters often bring up the award as best small library thing which librarians know is a joke. That committee does not search out the best libraries, libraries submit a form which may or may not be accurate. The library trustees sent out a letter stating that 300,000 people used the library last year. As someone pointed out, that is over 800 people a day, 365 days a year. !! We can only hope the search committee selects a professional for this important job.
10:54 am est 

Kicking the Can

For almost two years now, I have taken a break from all the town hall drama after witnessing the exodus of town employees. I have left to serve on one volunteer committee and when termed out, I am done. The manner in which certain folks went after people has been awful to listen to. But this week, I finally sat and watched both the fincom and bos meetings, and my god, look where the current town leadership has taken our community.  It's really embarrassing. What do we have to show for all the ugliness these past two years? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.  Where did it get us?  No where.  Still no town manager and no police chief. Such overwhelming dysfunction by our town leaders.  And how telling is it that TWICE this BOS has made offers to prospective candidates only to be turned down once they have done research into the ugliness that pervades every corner of politics in this town.  First, the BOS offers the DC guy the TM job, and once spending dinner at the Chair's home with his cronies, the DC guy runs for the hills.  And now to learn that the BOS made an offer to a new Search Consultant, but that firm after researching more about the town, decides its not in the firm's best interest to accept the offer to work for the town.  Pretty bad when a firm passes over a job offer.

And what of all those people that were chased out of town because of certain town officials currently sitting in chairs in the Judge Welsh room?  All of them gainfully employed and the happier for being out of the drama that surrounds the town.  Even the former Police Chief who was burned at the stake has a job.  How can that be?  The town crucified the guy. I'm going to hazard a guess that his moving on and up had something to do with the fact that outside of the town line, most see Ptown controlled by assholes.  When the town's own investigator ended up testifying for the Chief, it was safe to say that things were a mess. 

When will the nonsense stop?  The town has much work to do.  We just keep kicking the can down the road.  Look at the state of the Pier.  Still a mess.  And what of the VFW purchase?  Vacant still and no concrete action plan in place.  But town officials are great at steamrolling people without care.  Just look at the attacks on the town planner, the dpw, the school system, the police, the pier, the bldg dept,, the library, zoning, Dave Gardner and Michele J, second homeowners, the notion of selective enforcement, etc. etc.  What have I left out?  We have wasted exorbitant amounts of time, money and energy with studies that we just ignore, committees we disband after countless hours have been served, and litigation because of the way matters are handled in this town.  In most election cycles, we could turn to the power to vote for change.  Unfortunately not in Provincetown.  Who wants to serve their community at the expense of vicious attacks and a semblance of peace in your!
  life?  Just look who's turned in nomination papers, or better yet, how many have not.  Kick the can. 
10:50 am est 

Re: Town Hall Disrepair

Are there no warranties? Even a new toilet comes with one.
10:43 am est 

Re: Town Hall Disrepair

"We spent millions and  millions for the building to last
for at least one generation and now?? It already needs serious work.

Thanks Sharon for such long-term thinking and oversight."



Is doing some peinting "serious work"?  Where is it pealing?  how extensively"  did you get an estimate from a licensed contractor, or are you one of those that likes to bash everything that is done around here.

Blaming Lynn(who I did not care for) is silly. She did not design the renovation.  SHe did not write the contracts. She did not award the contracts nor sign them.    Lots of buildings all over the northeast have had some problems with water leakage because of the ice dams and very cold weather.  There have been lots of paint pealing when water gets dammed up and runs behind siding.  This is a fact of living here.  

 
10:37 am est 

Re: So Many on the BOS Disappoint

"Typical response. Someone disagrees with you, insult their
intellect,logic, reason....the statement was addressed to those with the
intelligence and common sense to understand real life and the vision to see
clearly what's happening in town, NOT to the elitists with more money, twisted
logic and
self-absorption than empathy for their neighbors.  If you don't get
the logic,that's your problem, not mine..... "


Please learn the difference
between disagreeing and insulting. Your posts are illogical.  That is an
observation of fact that is not an insult.  What is your definition of
"elitists".  Seems that it is maybe someone who has achieved more success with
educations and occupation.

Should we all dumb down as much as possible?
Should we not achieve that of which we are capable?  How do you know what we
think of our neighbors?  Probably more empathy than you since we don't begrudge
success and are eager to share rather than deprecate all those others.

I'll
say it again but am more than willing to learn more of your reasons.  No one has
been "driven" out of town.  The natural course of events has occurred.  People
have sold their property for the highest price that they could get.  People
bought the property.  Some who were living there could not afford the higher
costs of rent, and taxes etc.  Sort of like the South End of Boston. Some years
back it was a depressed area.  People started to buy and sell.  Prices went up.
Now it is no longer affordable for many.  Brookline is the same as are many
other places.  Come up with possible logical plans to change this.  I can't
imagine what they could be.  Try to stop the tides.  This is not an attempt to
insult you just a response to your rant.
9:37 am est 

The Town is in Need of Help

Get a new town manager. Just look,
analyze and understand the applicants and then pick five or three--and then
interview them.

What is so hard and trying about this?/


Just do it.
11:28 pm est 

Re: Town Hall Disrepair

Are there no warranties? Even a new toilet
comes with one.
11:26 pm est 

Town Hall Renovations

Who is responsible? The building repairs were
done only a couple of years ago were they not.  Who was the contractor, Building
Inspector and clerk of works that inspected and signed off.
11:25 pm est 

Wednesday, March 4, 2015

Re: So Many on the BOS Disappoint

"You have had your say but it makes little logical sense.  How does one get
driven out of town?  ...  Nexttime you want to have your say, go ahead, by all
means, but think it throughbefore you hit the post button. Emotion won't do it
in a discussion of fact."


Typical response. Someone disagrees with you, insult their intellect,
logic, reason....the statement was addressed to those with the intelligence and
common sense to understand real life and the vision to see clearly what's
happening in town, NOT to the elitists with more money, twisted logic and
self-absorption than empathy for their neighbors.  If you don't get the logic,
that's your problem, not mine.....
3:16 pm est 

Town Hall Disrepair

Look Closely at the "Newly" Renovated Town Hall

The paint is pealing; the stairs look so old and used; hand rails are rusting; and I also
heard that rain came in through the roof and damaged the auditorium and drained into
the small conference room.

We spent millions and  millions for the building to last
for at least one generation and now?? It already needs serious work.

Thanks Sharon for such long-term thinking and oversight.  You knew how to spend our
money but not how to handle our finances for the future. I'm glad you are not
part of Provincetown's future.
3:13 pm est 

Re: Town Planner Oversteps Authority?

Maybe sometimes People don't Know their Place or their Limits. Some
in town positions go beyond themselves and take on powers they legitimately
don't have but are allowed to because they are not stopped or put in their place.
3:06 pm est 

Re:Town Planner Oversteps Authority?

"This is all fantasy. She has
no enforcement ability and does not pretend to have any.  She does have the
responsibility to communicate the bylaws and other town information to those
that seem to be ignorant ."



I'll agree only to the point that when she
communicates the bylaws to other boards and committees, she does so with a "do
as I say or else" attitude. SHE doesn't want a paved turnaround? SHE demands
conditions on business owners on Shankpainter? Who does SHE think SHE is.
12:25 pm est 

Re:Town Planner Oversteps Authority?

"She oversteps her boundaries because nobody calls her out on it. Zoning bylaws are proposed by the planning board and brought to town meeting to be voted in or out. Those that are voted in are then enforced by the building commissioner, not the planner. She is staff to the planning board. She is ONLY there for guidance, not for making the rules and not for enforcement. If she suggests something and the board disagrees, too bad for her. The planning board is elected to represent the people of the town, not bow down to her directions. Represent the town planning board or get off the board. SHE IS STAFF ONLY."


This is all fantasy. She has no enforcement ability and does no pretend to have any.  She does have the responsibility to communicate the bylaws and other town information to those that seem to be ignorant .
11:44 am est 

Re: Intelligent Women

"Notice that whenever there's a series of attacks here that its
always about Gloria or Michelle. Someone can't stand intelligent women."


Oh,
give me a break! Every local public figure, male or female, has been subjected
to attacks on this blog. Stop trying to turn everything into an issue of
misogyny. People like you give real feminists a bad name. Did it ever occur to
you that maybe you just like feeling like a victim?
9:49 am est 

Re: Intelligent Women

Agree with the poster who observed the foul treatment of women in
(gulp) authority. Yep, Provincetown, where the men are men, men are women when
they want to be and women should just shut up.
9:13 am est 

Re: So Many on the BOS Disappoint

"if that's the case, I certainly won't commute back to this armpit of
a town to kiss your asses for a paycheck -- not when there is real, diversified
and year round employment elsewhere.  I call on all others being driven out to
do the same.  The self-entitled one-percenters are destroying this town, so
let's give them what they want -- leave 'em to rely on J1s who will (a) stop
coming to avoid dealing with their greedy dramatics, or (b) who drive away
customers with deficient language skills and indifferent customer service
skills.  Then sit back and watch the tourist revenue crash and they get stuck
with ALL the bills for ALL their services.

While I doubt you will have the
cahones to post this, I've had my say."



You have had your say but it makes
little logical sense.  How does one get driven out of town?  No one has stolen
any properety here.  It has all been sold and usually at a very nice profit to
the seller.  And who are the sellers?  Talk with them about selling out.  Are
they townies? Why did they sell?  Next time you want to have your say, go ahead,
by all means, but think it through before you hit the post button. Emotion won't
do it in a discussion of fact.

9:09 am est 

Tuesday, March 3, 2015

Re:Town Planner Oversteps Authority?

She oversteps her boundaries because nobody calls her out on it. Zoning bylaws are proposed by the planning board and brought to town meeting to be voted in or out. Those that are voted in are then enforced by the building commissioner, not the planner. She is staff to the planning board. She is ONLY there for guidance, not for making the rules and not for enforcement. If she suggests something and the board disagrees, too bad for her. The planning board is elected to represent the people of the town, not bow down to her directions. Represent the town planning board or get off the board. SHE IS STAFF ONLY.
9:33 pm est 

Intelligent Women

Notice that whenever there's a series of attacks here that its always about Gloria or Michelle. Someone can't stand intelligent women.
9:31 pm est 

Re: So Many on the BOS Disappoint
 
"Maybe all of this is just a vast conspiracy to get you all to move to Eastham and leave us all the heck alone so we can GET something done. Have you ever thought of that, conspiracy theorists?"


If that's the case, I certainly won't commute back to this armpit of a town to kiss your asses for a paycheck -- not when there is real, diversified and year round employment elsewhere.  I call on all others being driven out to do the same.  The self-entitled one-percenters are destroying this town, so let's give them what they want -- leave 'em to rely on J1s who will (a) stop coming to avoid dealing with their greedy dramatics, or (b) who drive away customers with deficient language skills and indifferent customer service skills.  Then sit back and watch the tourist revenue crash and they get stuck with ALL the bills for ALL their services.

While I doubt you will have the cahones to post this, I've had my say.
9:29 pm est 

Spring Can't Be Far Away

With daylight savings time returning this Sunday night. Add a vase of daffodils to your table and spring will be here now!
9:23 am est 

Town Planner Oversteps Authority?

David, just appoint Gloria Town Manager. She already thinks she is.

Just do it.
7:59 am est 

Open Space Protection
 
Hope more people will attend Town Meeting to vote to protect Open Space. And to take part in voting for the Entire Warrant. Every time there is an article on the Warrant that deals with affordable housing the affordable housing people stack and pack the meeting to vote for their articles in and then go home. To hell with the rest of the articles they got passed what they wanted. No true commitment to our town only what they need.  Please show up to vote on all articles.
7:57 am est 

The Vote For the Land Bank is a Vote For Reasonableness

It is the right vote and open space requires protection. That is why it was created.

Taking monies from the Land Bank is stealing from all of us and taking the possibility of more open land for all of us to walk, enjoy and for the little wilderness to be protected.
12:33 am est 

Is Chatham Looking For a Town Planner?

This would be a good time to apply and to move. People there are friendly and you can find a good space to rent. time to move on. all our best wishes.
12:31 am est 

A Questions: When Will Provincetown Get a Town Manager?

What is taking so much time? why are we not now interviewing potential candidates? What is wrong with the present approach which seems to be stuck in la-la-land.

This is a priority but it is being treated as insignificant.
12:28 am est 

It's Time For Action

It's time that the BOs seize the potential that is there in this group and take real action. time for leadership. At this point, I don't care who it is but someone on this powerful board needs to seize power and act. We deserve insight, thoughtfulness, and decisive action.

If not now, when?
12:25 am est 

Re: So Many on the BOS Disappoint
 
"is having a spine so difficult?"


When you have so many entitled, whiny people in one town? When the same people complain over and over again about everything and anything because they don't actually live in the real world? When you have a decimated year-round population that mostly consists of people who live on the dole all winter, and think the town should give them everything for free? When you have a totally dysfunctional Town Hall filled with self-important staff that couldn't get a job in the real world either? It's a miracle anything at all gets done. Isn't it time to help the BOS get goals done? Isn't it time YOU, yes YOU whining and complaining volunteered and gave your time to the town to get things done? Maybe all of this is just a vast conspiracy to get you all to move to Eastham and leave us all the heck alone so we can GET something done. Have you ever thought of that, conspiracy theorists?
12:22 am est 

DPW is Doing Good Work With Snow Removal

I applaud what they have done this difficult and challenging February and now March. they have done a great job and should be applauded.
12:19 am est 

Je Suis Boris Nemtson

Sadly, Boris Nemtson joins the Je suis group of courageous individuals. apparently speaking against Putin gets you killed soon enough. Remember his opponent who died in London of Polonium 20.

Boris Nemtson is a hero and speaking truth to power takes courage and in Russia, obviously your life.

Je suis Boris Nemtson
12:17 am est 

Let's Get Some Gumption on the BOS

Let someone be a leader, I don't care who. You've got talent there but inaction. Make something real happen. that is not too much to ask.
12:13 am est 

Town Planner vs. Everyone Else

Since when does the Planner trump public safety with the Fire Chief. Why don't
we just get rid of all the town employees because it appears that she can do it
all. She's amazing! Time for her to realize she is not running the town,
however, her role is one that incorporates teamwork with other town officials,
which from what is posted here she is not obviously doing.
11:42 pm est 

Monday, March 2, 2015

It's time for Action

It's time that the BOs seize the potential that is there in this group and take real action. time for leadership. At this point, I don't care who it is but someone on this powerful board needs to seize power and act. We deserve insight, thoughtfulness, and decisive action.

If not now, when?
10:43 pm est 

Je Suis Boris Nemtsov

Yes, this Russian needs to be part of the group of courageous individuals we salute in the Je Suis movement or Je suis honoring. Boris Nemtsov spoke truth to power and challenged Putin and his dictatorial actions.

I salut boris Nemtsov, as I salute Alexander Litvimenko who Putin also killed when Alexander was living in London. His death was painful from Polonium 210. these are brave men who dare to pay the price for freedom and honest speech.
10:41 pm est 

Town Planner vs Everyone Else

The Town Planner has had a run-in with the Developer that is
working on the property above the now defunct Hot L Restaurant. She is
giving them hell.

The Fire Chief requires a Cul de Sac for fire truck turn around, which
she opposes. The town Planner's argument is that the Cul de Sac is esthetically
displeasing and claims that her authority trumps that of the Fire Chief, which is totally
wrong.

She has throughly pissed off most of the businesses on Shankpainter and has displayed an
anti-busness attitude since she arrived on our doorstep.

It is time to admit our mistake and get rid of a growing problem. When the Planner applied
for the  Assistant Town Manager position in Wellfleet (but was rejected) after having only been
in her position  of Town planner for a little more then a year, speaks legends.

Where is the Comprehensive Development Plan? DART cannot be used as the excuse for not
having worked on the plan.

Time for her to go!!
8:08 pm est 

Sunday, March 1, 2015

You Have to be Kidding!


Erik Yingling the next Board of Selectmen Chair?

Say it ain't so Sam.

Please

12:59 pm est 


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