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  Mark Silva: A Rich Goodby

The church was packed. There was even a long line to enter St. Peter's. There were people sitting along the side pews. All the pews were filled.

We were there to attest to your legacy, to what you gave to this town and to all of us. You brought the energy for the Portuguese Festival and revived it. You brought the energy for the Regatta and revived this wonderful celebration. You gave of yourself, of your time and of your vision.

The town was there to bid you farewell and to thank you for everything that you have done for us. And you did it with humor, joy and a sense of much celebration. You knew how to throw a party and taught the town to do it too!

You were unique and you will be missed. But you would not leave without our thanks and without a party at the Red Inn. We were there with tears and we were there with much laughter and gratefulness for you.

Adieu, Mark! May the angels carry you on holy wings into eternal peace and celebration!

 

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Saturday, January 31, 2015

Re: Police Station

There is nothing wrong with the police station that yearly maintenance could not
have taken care of! Now yes it needs some repairs but we absolutely do not need
a new station!

Don't believe for a second the hype about substandard conditions it's a bunch of
BS. What we need is a Chief of police that will treat everyone in the town the same
and allows his officers to enforce laws to and for everyone equally! The last thing
this towns needs right now is to shell out 7 to 9 million for a extravgant building when
the current station is perfectly adequate. What we need first and foremost is
professionalism and honesty not toys and luxuries. People in this town who are
actually paying taxes need an affordable place to live more than police personal
that don't live or pay taxes or can even vote in our town need a Taj Mahal of a
police station to watch tv as they work like our dispatchers do! This anyone can
witness by just walking in the door.
11:20 pm est 

Re: Police Station

PROVINCETOWN NEEDS A NEW POLICE STATION

TOWN MEETING to spend money on plans for a new police station. The votes see
that this is a crucial need for the town.

The building commitee, after intensive study, presented to the selectmen a
detailed and exhaustive study that unequivocally stated the need for a new
police station.

We talk about year round jobs, and yet we continue to maintain a substandard
building in which our police officers are forced to work.

This building needs to be built. It is a  crying shame that all of the efforts
of town hall are diverted towards affordable housing even after taxpayers gave
$3,ooo,ooo.oo to developers.
10:13 pm est 

State of the Town

Monday night's televised BOS meeting showcased how far our elected officals have
gone on our behalf. Hats off to each of them for their efforts just hours before
a blizzard shut down the Cape.

With the exception of one selectman, each has carved their place in the 2015
agenda. It was interesting to see how their platforms have transformed during
the past few months. The only selectmen who has not risen to the occassion is
someone who follows, but fails to lead. Doesn't even have a question for
applicants to the Planning Board, claiming "all the good ones have already been
asked." Shameless, but apparently that is what the voters wanted.

Finally, I applaud David, Michelle and Dan for their leadership roles.

Love from South Beach,

Darla

10:35 am est 

Friday, January 30, 2015

Go. Go, Go Patriots!!

This is a great team and let's wish them all the best! A wish for victory! A
wish for a Fabulous game!

The way they are being attacked, I say: Je Suis les Patriots!
9:17 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

AFFORDABLE HOUSING-REALLY?

All of these housing summits--and it is town leaders and town hall folks who go
there--only a handful of residents.

over 200 comments about someone building housing--the same old story about
taking the leap and building housing--just like last year and the year
before--and all of the comments are from the same group of 10 or so people.

The crucial life sustaining issue that is missing is JOBS. People here don't
want YEAR ROUND JOBS.

Year ago Irene Rabinowitz brought a group of people to town who wanted to open a
business--and everyone they interviewed wanted to work part time--so they went
to Orleans instead.

We are going to be 10 per cent affordable housing.

1:41 pm est 

Thursday, January 29, 2015

Re: Affordable Housing

It is time To Say It: enough of affordable Housing

While you may feel we don't need any more housing, it's not up to the housing
administrator. It's up to Town Meeting.

If you feel so strongly that enough is enough, then mark your calendar now
(April 6, 7, and maybe more) for STM/ATM and be there.

Of course, you will have to raise your hand. Such an effort!

11:33 pm est 

Just a Question

If Sharon Lynn was making around $147,000 when she left, is David Gardner as
Town Manager making this amount? and if he is, who set his salary? And if David
Gardner was making $82,000 as Assistant town Manager, is Michelle Jarusiewicz
making that as temporary Assistant Town Manager?  Are the two of them combined
costing us $230,000 for their work? and if this is true, why? and who would have
approved her salary? and when?

Just a question.
6:21 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

It is time To Say It: enough of affordable Housing

We have done it in the past. Go, take a visitor's look at 90 Shankpainter. How
many affordables there? $0 or even more? and no one is happy about that. But the
town leased this land for $99 a year--and we bear all legal costs for problems
that might come from the land. We bought--we the tax payers--bought the land
from Cumberland Farms for $1 million--and then gave it away. this was a mega
project that people supported and now what?/ Who's talking about the great gain
for affordable housing here at 90 Shankpainter?

Oh, and why not ask Michelle Jarusiewicz how she handled this deal. this
happened under her great authority and leadership.  She was the Housing
specialist and if this is a disaster and disappointment, then look to Michelle
Jarusiewicz. She organized this with Sharon Lynn. Now what? Ask her. And even
more, what would she as temporary assistant town manager, do differently now?
she would repeat the same offense.

Look to the past to know the present and the future.
6:20 pm est 

Housing

I bought it back in the 70's but am considering selling it before the
town comes up with some crazy ideas that won't allow me to sell."


Like what? Restricting the total sale price of your home? Forcing you to rent to
a tenant in your basement? Seriously, you've got a real poverty mentality. But,
that's what happens when you have limited resources in Provincetown. Makes one
go cray-cray after about 7 winter season's with no break. Can you blame someone
for going surfing?
6:18 pm est 

Housing

FREE COUNTRY TO GOVERN ONE'S OWN PROPERTY

People may gather in mass at Town Meeting and vote to take over people's
property if they wish--but it won't pass the Attorney General's office.

I live here. I don't want the town to be so over developed by all of this
affordable housing that I feel when I walk down the street that I'm living in
the stacks of the library with nothing but walls around me.

in the 1980 we were well on the way to being an exclusive small town. It has
been evolving that way ever since--it is just that social media now is a venue
where people may state this fact.

The taxpayers have spent Three million dollars of their tax money on affordable
housing property for developers.

Homeowners are being vilified for wanting to afford to live here any way that
they can--and that includes partial renting of their property or closing it down
in the winter when THE OWNERS are not living in their Provincetown Home.

Who are you to tell them what to do with their property? Who are you to demand
that the town spend every single penny and give up every build-able lot or
property that is owned and hand it over for affordable housing?

You can't turn back the clock to a time when there was serious year round work
here and seven schools.

You can't turn back the clock to a time when the triple deckers were built to
house people working the fishing industry and its related industries. You can't
turn back the clock to a time when you could come here with nothing and expect
to land a job that will provide you with a middle class living, a comfortable
living with a car, a house, money to put into retirement etc.

March on Town Meeting and make your demands. People will sell or rent seasonally
but they won't be cowed into giving up their rights to their property--they will
go condo and sell their properties first. That is why so many are hunting for
housing.
6:16 pm est 

Housing

Why do we want the town to be developed to the 9th degree? Simple, the town
wants more housing and affordable. Ever check out what's affordable on a cumbies
or stop and shop salary. Why don't we have the town employees salaries cut way
back so they can see what we are talking about. Bet they couldn't afford to live
here either. I'm one in the fortunate ones who happens to own my own home here
because I bought it back in the 70's but am considering selling it before the
town comes up with some crazy ideas that won't allow me to sell.
10:21 am est 

Wednesday, January 28, 2015

Re: Affordable Housing

WAIT FOR TOWN MEETING

It seems that the people advocating that we build more affordable houses and
give them town own land is more of the what is mine is mine and what is yours is
mine.

Why must we allow our town to be developed to the nth degree with housing jammed
in every square inch until the town looks like a rabbit warren?

The unintended consequences of banning condos is that condos will be priced out
of sight of even the well to do. I want to be the person with the last condo
complex for sale in town.
9:27 pm est 

For Some, You Now Have Staff on Steroids

Just watch the January 22, 2015 Planning board meeting. Out of control and
attempting to threaten citizens who voted against their terrible zoning change.

And the poor building commissioner being threaten by the board itself.
5:12 pm est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

"When I see a couple of people waking out of the soup kitchen who sold
an estate in another state for mega millions--I decide not to fund the soup
kitchen--that is all"



So you were not spying and you saw them walking out.  But, did you know what
they were doing inside?  Were they making a donation?  Were they visiting a
friend?  Were they signing up as volunteers?  were they Dropping something off? 
Did they actually have a meal for free?  Answer please.
10:25 am est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

Super Rich

When I see a couple of people waking out of the soup kitchen who sold an estate
in another state for mega millions--I decide not to fund the soup kitchen--that
is all

WHo is spying? I just happened to see this-that is all. I just won't fund them
since the well off in town go there instead of supporting the places in town
that are open for lunch and that hire people in town and give them jobs.

10:08 am est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

"That is exactly the point that those of us that donate to the Soup
Kitchen are trying to make.  Free loaders stay home.  Find a new place for your
socialization.  You should be ashamed to be eating food that is not meant for
you.  Even if you make a small donation, the program is supplemented by the
major donors and our donations are not meant for you.  We want you to go to a
restaurant and support the local business if you are financially able to.  If
your argument is that you believe you have the right to eat at the SK, then I'm
telling you that my donation is NOT meant for you."


This is the kind of attitude that makes for an "us vs them" situation.  Is there
a means test to go to the SK?  Are you the one that decides who is worthy?  ARe
you the only one that can assess the goals and aspirations of the entire
community.  Such complete arrogance.  Who are you to say what is a meaningful
donation?  Who are you to say that a lonely person who craves some friendship
during this harsh winter can't eat with friends and then pay for it?

Stop with the self righteous judgements.  You are not alone in town.  Your needs
are not universal.  Love your neighbor.
10:07 am est 

Re: Soup Kitchen
 
THE SOUP KITCHEN ASKS FOR FUNDS

As a resident I get a solicitation in the mail to help fund the soup kitchen.

When I see some rich dudes and well healed constuction guys who charge $250.00
to install a kitchen faucett eating there-I decided that I won't send money
since I make around $13.00 an hour. that is all.
10:04 am est 

Town Planner overstepping Authority

I served on a committee many years ago and remember a case where one of our
staff members weighed in on a case and the chair of our board interrupted and
reminded the person they were staff and not a voting member of the board and
therefor should not be speaking. Staff was only there to answer questions when
called upon by a member of our board.
10:03 am est 

Storage Container/Temporary Structure

Is there a difference? Someone off of Howland Street built a "temporary"
building that has been up for several  years.
10:01 am est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

To the elitists who are complaining about the soup kitchen:

You who complain are probably the same people who mob the restaurant openings in
the spring and eat up the free ho'deouvres like they are going out of style.
Give me a break, the soup kitchen does fine with it's volunteers AND clients. I
have not heard of a shortage of donations or customers, and have never seen
anyone there who was "undeserving". The elite don't go there, what is your
problem? Another second homeowner who doesn't spend enough time or attention to
our community to know what they are talking about!!
12:04 am est 

Re: Soup kitchen

Clue phone - no one is trying to reshape the soup kitchen. It has long provided
food for the soul. Get it?
12:03 am est 

Soup Kitchen Wars

A few weeks ago, a poster comments they had seen two well-off guys leaving the
SK after a meal. Don't know...wasn't there. Admittedly inflammatory stuff. Then
others mention they go for the fellowship, and guys who work in construction go,
etc.

So, what about those in need? Are they getting enough to eat? Are families
there? What's the problem?

How creepy it is to think there are people spying on who's going to the SK. What
the hell happened to 'the town that pulls together for each other'?
12:01 am est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

Dear soup nazi,
I can understand why you don't like the fact that those you have identified as
"not poor" go to the soup kitchen and break bread with their fellows in a lonely
time of year. You would need a soul to understand that- maybe its time to search
for yours?
12:00 am est 

Tuesday, January 27, 2015

Re: No One is Attacking the Soup Kitchen

"The Soup Kitchen does so much but some simply abuse its existence and try to
reconfigure the place into a social event."


That is exactly the point that those of us that donate to the Soup Kitchen are
trying to make.  Free loaders stay home.  Find a new place for your
socialization.  You should be ashamed to be eating food that is not meant for
you.  Even if you make a small donation, the program is supplemented by the
major donors and our donations are not meant for you.  We want you to go to a
restaurant and support the local business if you are financially able to.  If
your argument is that you believe you have the right to eat at the SK, then I'm
telling you that my donation is NOT meant for you.
11:58 pm est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

Sorry, but I simply don't understand the self-righteous anger about
people occasionally stopping by the SK.  I agree, and probably most others would
also, that to enjoy a meal there and not donate more than its value is pretty
bad.  But, for someone like me to stop by every once in a great while and
annually give much more than I get is a good thing.  I get to see how worthwhile
it is and that reinforces my desire to donate.  I see other members of the
community helping out.  To me this is a very important part of living here. I
don't go to sponge off others and I don't ever get the feeling that I'm taking
space or food from anyone.  So please don't try to force your morality on me or
others.  You do what you feel is best and so will I.
11:56 pm est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

You all are mean. just stating your opinion about the soup kitchen but
I have yet to hear any statement from the organization about this. You can think
what you want but the soup kitchen will continue to feed people who need it.
Quit being so judgmental. I hope you are never judged for your actions some day
because you will never get help if God forbid you need it. I feel sorry for
people like you. And so do most people reading your nasty and horrible comments.
Donating to a organization does not give you a right to tell the organization
what to do with that money. Move on already...
11:55 pm est 

BOS Chair

Shouldn't Tom Donegan Recuse Himself on Planning Board Appointments?

Given that his partner is chair of the Planning board, it seems that he should
recuse himself and not discuss planning values and strengths with candidates and
then vote to appoint someone to Planning. I feel that he has already talked to
his partner on who should be selected and even talked to Gloria. Oh, then, maybe
Eric Yingling should have recused himself too! Gloria is a central figure in
Planning and I think everyone should be as pure as Ceasar's wife.

He should, simply, recuse himself.
11:53 pm est 

Monday, January 26, 2015

No One is Attacking the Soup Kitchen

The issues raised as people not in need who go there to socialize and eat. As if
the soup Kitchen is the new Farland. It is not.

The Soup Kitchen serves those who need a meal, those who could use lunch--not
those who flippantly think they should stop by and have a sandwich on the place.

The Soup Kitchen does so much but some simply abuse its existence and try to
reconfigure the place into a social event.
8:58 pm est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

"I don't stop by for any other reason except to be part of the community."

I did not make a donation to an organization to provide a place for free loaders
to hang out.  If that is the purpose then it was misrepresented to me and many
of the other people who donated.  If you just want to stop by, go to volunteer
your services.  The SK does not need people like you who drop by, even on
occasion to feel like you are part of the community.  There are other places in
town for you to "stop by" to see others.  Don't try to justify your actions. 
Rather than be told by the SK to NOT stop by, why don't just tell them when you
arrive that you are financially able to pay for a meal, but the purpose of my
visit is for no "other reason except to be part of the community."  A very sad
situation when someone takes advantage of the generosity of others that is not
meant for them.  Yes, I CAN say that because I DO donate annually to the SK.
8:57 pm est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

The Soup Kitchen is the new topic to malign! Why? it's for people in
need!How do you define need? Indigent?Poor?People living alone,(some can't
cook)? Some need communication/camaraderie,some may donate what they can when
they can,& maybe some that abuse the system because they are in everything all
round us! may be you could be accused of being deceitful in other ways even
though you don't go to eat "free food"! you're not compelled to go there and
eat,nor do you have to donate to those who do! You don't have to take care of
any freeloaders or throw stones unless you're the perfect one with out baggage!
7:05 pm est 

How Right You Are!

It is the elitist perspective that containers need not be in our neighborhood
like clothes lines, as you mention, and other indicators of another "class."!

this was not a problem and I know that it was Planning board that wanted to deal
with this--even as they deny and try to blame Russell Braun and Annie Howard. It
was them!

Plant flowers on Shankpainter. force businesses to have bike racks that they
like. Beautify a commercial zone. why? because they think they can and will go
on to enforce their own fabricated rules.
6:56 pm est 

Re: Storage Containers

People who are more concerned about property values instead of
necessities like storage containers,visible clotheslines,garbage
bins,etc.,should seriously think about moving to an elite gated community in
another elite place other than a local community village like P!Town! If
Planning Board Members harbor similar elitist attitudes to support such nonsense
then that can be replaced with what used to be small Town common sense for the
common good & common people's needs!
6:28 pm est 

Re: Storage Containers

If you really need a storage container on your property you can
probably buy an actual trailer with wheels and park it on your property.  As
long as you keep it registered and insured, I think you will not be breaking any
laws and can thumb your nose at the world.

You might actually consider parking it on public property!!  I think a
contractor is already doing exactly this.
6:25 pm est 

Re: Storage Containers

I believe that the Planning Board did not start the talk about storage
containers. It is my understanding that it started with people asking the
Building Department how to legaly place one on their property and being told
that could not because we do not have current regulations controlling them, thus
they are not an allowed use. And they are also responding to a written
complaint.

I firmly believe temporary containers need to be allowed for construction, and
other reasons which we will discover as we investigate.

As for long term use I lean toward allowing them, but perhaps that will change.
Truthfully I would rather see the shed bylaw relaxed to allow more sheds,
negating the use of containers.

Peter Page
6:23 pm est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

"I donate more that that and I don't expect to be able to stop in to
the SK and collect on my "investment"."


Well good for you.  I guess that that makes you a much better person than the
rest of us cheapskates.  By the way, why the quotes around the word investment? 
Who are you quoting?  Who said that they stop by to collect on an investment.  I
reread everything but can't find it, so my guess is that you are conjuring up
some kind of motive that doesn't exist.  I don't stop by for any other reason
except to be part of the community.  If the management doesn't want me I hope
that they'll say something.  By the way,  I don't stop very often.  Maybe once
very couple of years. Remember what ASSUME does with the ASS U ME.
12:11 pm est 

I Have No Problem with Storage Containers Peter Page

And I don't believe the town has had a problem. It seems a fabricated issue so
that the Planning Board can insinuates itself into another area. It is an
over-reach by Planning. That is all it is.
10:48 am est 

Planning Board vs Storage Containers

Make sure  mobile homes (campers) that people have parked on their property as
well are also included in the bylaw. After all, how do we know people aren't
using them for storage or even having someone living in them.

Mr. Page, as a contractor, per your post, are you in favor of the containers or
against?

You fail to mention that. You only say you are interested in it.

10:47 am est 

Finance Committee Public Meeting

The Finance Committee will hold a public meeting in the Judge Welsh Room to review the FY2016 operating budget:
Today Monday, January 26, 2015 at 1 PM
Budgets Reviewed
*Housing. Town Planner to attend with Housing Coordinator/Asst. TM
Votes may be taken unless otherwise noted.
Any other business that may legally come before the Committee.
Posted: www.provincetown-ma.gov 1/21/15 8:05 am dj
9:37 am est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

"I give several hundred bucks every year when I get
a small bonus inheritance check."



I donate more that that and I don't expect to be able to stop in to the SK and
collect on my "investment".
9:33 am est 

Re: Storage Containers

I have a problem with storage containers that people are using. Our business
called Town Hall about one for us and we were told no. We need one for our
business and we can hide it on our property out of sight. We can build a
shed--but we can't get a storage container.

THIS IS NOT FAIR. We need it. We see them at other places. These things are
needed. We aren't some gated community that forbids clothes lines to be visible
or garbage cans in sight--are we?

I keep telling the boss to just get one for us. We have to keep our guests happy
and we are so jammed with what we need that I can't turn around in our storage
area any more.

I'd sign my name--but my boss is out of town and I don't want to put the spot
light on us. I keep pushing and pushing to get one--but we don't want to do
anything that breaks a town law so the place doesn't get in trouble.

Frustrated, overly jammed up worker in town.
9:31 am est 

Re: Planning Board

Storage containers are necessary to store tools and material securely
during a property renovation. I think the issue may be permanent verses
temporary, and how long can temporary be.
12:09 am est 

Sunday, January 25, 2015

Town Planner - Overstepping Her Authority

Could somebody please explain to me what the town planner is doing
participating in the HDC decision making process concerning a request for
dormers? Is she now the Board's Chair? Is there anyplace that she is not
sticking her nose into? This setting a very dangerous precedent for someone who
appears to be making a move to be the next assistant town manager. Who is her
supervisor?
9:32 pm est 

Planning Board vs Storage Containers

Does anyone out there in the general public reading this have a
problem of any kind concerning portable storage containers? I really want to
know. Because when the time comes to review any proposed bylaw concerning them I
want to be fully informed when I speak to the planning board.

I am a member of the Zoneing Board of Appeals but I am addressing this as a
private citizen because I belive I have an interest in this.

Peter Page
9:30 pm est 

Planning - Yikes!

I did look at the Planning Board Meeting of January 22.

Yikes!
12:43 pm est 

Europe on $24 a Day

Get real!  For $24 a day you are either in a flea bag or a youth hostel.
It seems to me that  you are too old for the latter and if you want bed bugs go
for it.   The days of Europe on $5 a day are over.
12:41 pm est 

Saturday, January 24, 2015

Re: Soup Kitchen

"I'm not in charge, but I volunteer there and some of the people that
eat there often can well afford to go to a restaurant.  The SK is not for them."
 

Thank you sincerely for your contribution. people like you make it possible. 
How does the SK management feel about this?
Don't be so skeptical and negative about what the person said about putting in
some money.  They probably are being truthful.  If they donate more than they
consume what is the problem?  I give several hundred bucks every year when i get
a small bonus inheritance check.  Would it be so wrong if i stopped by to visit
and have a small lunch every once in a while just to feel being part of the
community.
9:34 pm est 

Re: Planning Board

Who is this Mark Weinrese person?

Is he really a chair of planning? a failed chair if ever this was one. who is
he?
7:49 pm est 

The Planning Board is Out of Control

If they were bad at the last  town meeting, take a look at their last meeting.
It was, I believe, on January 22, 2015. I cannot believe what I am hearing. who
do they think they are? Arrogant, unintelligent, and wacked in their "thinking."
It is almost unbelievable. but don't take my word for it, just look at their
meeting. Yikes!
7:47 pm est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

"You act like you are in charge at the SK?"


I'm not in charge, but I volunteer there and some of the people that eat there
often can well afford to go to a restaurant.  The SK is not for them.  Many
people give donations to support this charitable organization and people like me
volunteer to put a meal on the table.  This is not done to give you a place to
hang out and get a cheap meal (that is if you really put in 5 or 10 dollars on
each of your visits).  Why do people who have jobs choose to go to the SK?  If
they do not want to be perceived as cheap or taking advantage of the system,
then go to a business where they can pay for a lunch and support a local
business.  Probably the same people who get a free lunch are the same people who
keep track on this blog which businesses do not stay open year round to meet
their occasional whim to pay for a meal in an establishment that is there for
that sole purpose.
7:46 pm est 

Planning Board

Provincetown over the years was always a working community. So what if someone
has a container in their yard. I remember the days when people had their lobster
pots and fish bait in their yards and neighbors didn't seem to mind. Know what a
scullyjoe is? Well, they used to hang them on the clotheslines to dry out. Talk
about smell! I'd  give my eye teeth to have a scullyjoe now.
3:27 pm est 

Summer - Winter Workers

I remember when the staff of restaurants all went to their jobs in Arizona or
Florida or Cathedral city in the winter and then came to Provincetown in the
summer.

Now it is the foreign students who do this and rent a house together etc.

30 years ago people were saying that Provincetown was going to become exclusive
like the islands.

None of this should be hitting you like a bolt out of the blue if you have been
paying attention.

Artists were moving out in the 1980's as were other baby boomers.

Now we are senior citizens. The jobs are the same--seasonal.

People didn't want year round jobs.

Raise your fist to the heavens and bemoan your fate--but it isn't going to
change Provincetown back into what it was. And if you want to live in an
oversized shed and call it home and pay for storage units and fret the rising
cost of electricity, water, taxes, etc.--that is your prerogative.

We all make choices. The world doesn't owe you anything--you just feel entitled
to have it.

1:16 pm est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

"The Soup Kitchen is not for you.  Go to an establishment that accepts
paying customers.  There is no reason to make this the town hang out spot.  Grow
up and act like an adult in the real world.  If you can afford to buy lunch,
then do so.  Your 5 or 10 bucks is not welcomed so you can have a place to hang
out. People who can afford to eat out but go to the Soup Kitchen should be
ashamed of themselves.  You are a walking example of people who think everything
is owed to them.  If you have free time, offer to help the Soup Kitchen staff...
or are you too good for that?"


Maybe you should read a post before you berate the poster.  This person is not
taking from anyone that I can see.  Are there not enough seats ?  You act like
you are in charge at the SK?  if so, say it.  Otherwise stop with trying to make
your own rules and morality.  If the SK has a rule about people buying their
lunch there then OK, but I never heard about it.  I doubt that the typical lunch
costs five or ten bucks, so the poster is leaving a net gain.  What is so bad
about that>
11:19 am est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

I bet half the people in the soup kitchen do not donate.
11:17 am est 

Re: Our Lovely Hotel Room

Why can't we have affordable pizza in Provincetown?  Or how about
affordable rooms at $24 per night?  I want my affordable housing, affordable
meals in restaurants, affordable lodging... this list goes on and on.  What is
the point in trying to compare prices for things in Provincetown to things in
other cities, towns and countries?  Trying to compare prices in Paris to
Provincetown makes no sense.  I really doubt one can actually get a decent room
in a decent location in Paris for $24 per night.  Tell us the name of the hotel
since we all want to stay at this place next time we are in Paris.
11:14 am est 

Coastal Acres Campground News

From: Meadowview Heights
Date: January 15, 2015 at 3:59:59 PM EST
Subject: Coastal Acres Campground News

Hi, folks,

We recently became aware of some news regarding the Coastal Acres Campground
that we wanted to share with you.

Specifically, the trust that owns the 23.5 acre Campground has decided to place
the property on the market for sale. They have developed several prototype
development plans of the property and, in addition to its continued use as a
campground, these prototypes show various alternate uses such as a residential
sub-division or multi-unit condominium development.

As you know, the Coastal Acres Campground is located immediately next to us here
at Meadowview Heights and they access their property via Blueberry Avenue, a
private road owned by us, the Meadowview Heights Homeowners Association. While
Coastal Acres has the right (via a permanent easement) to use Blueberry Avenue
to access their property, any change of use could have significant impact.

While there are many details we don't know or have yet to be decided, we wanted
to make sure you are aware of this news as quickly as possible. Given the
proximity and and possible impact to Meadowview heights, the Trustees will be
meeting soon to discuss this in more detail and we will keep you posted. In the
meantime, if you have any thoughts or suggestions, please feel free to share
them with us.
11:13 am est 

Summer Resort Living

BEWARE THE RISKS OF SUMMER RESORT LIVING YEAR ROUND

I think that anyone moving to Provincetown without any assets and who expects to
have a comfortable life here for the rest of their lives needs to be warned of
the hardships ahead.

We can't turn the clock back to a time when one could do this.

Property owners can't be penalized for wanting to do what they wish with their
property. Property owners shouldn't be demonized for wanting to do what they
wish with their property.

Some homeowners now need to take in boarders or roommates to make a go of it
financially. The taxpayers are even paying for people to help homeowners do
this--why are taxpayers paying these salaries for housing personnel?

We see what happens when living and working here all of one's life runs up
against the rising costs of living--so we will be selling and moving.

We can't afford to live here anymore and we don't want to live with strangers or
even with friend in our home. We had our life here and we can no longer have a
life here and it isn't miserable and sad--it is the reality of the situation and
we will live in another beautiful, but cheaper place and there are plenty that
are near the sea in this state..they just aren't summer resorts.
11:11 am est 

Planning Board

What right does the planning board have to tell the building commissioner how to
do his job. He has the certifications, what do they have except to try and make
up rules that don't even fit in our town. They are getting a little too full of
themselves.
11:08 am est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

"The soup kitchen accepts donations. Every time I go to eat I always put in
money, sometimes 5 or 10 bucks."

The Soup Kitchen is not for you.  Go to an establishment that accepts paying
customers.  There is no reason to make this the town hang out spot.  Grow up and
act like an adult in the real world.  If you can afford to buy lunch, then do
so.  Your 5 or 10 bucks is not welcomed so you can have a place to hang out. 
People who can afford to eat out but go to the Soup Kitchen should be ashamed of
themselves.  You are a walking example of people who think everything is owed to
them.  If you have free time, offer to help the Soup Kitchen staff... or are you
too good for that?
11:07 am est 

Enough is Enough!



Former Truro Police Chief Lungrund is fighting his most recent OUI arrest.
Wasn't the happymeal from MacDonalds enough?
10:52 am est 

Friday, January 23, 2015

Planning Board GoneWild

You Just Have to Watch the Planning Board Meeting of January 22, 2015

There they are waving their fingers at the Building Commissioner and telling him
how to enforce. then Grace--with all her insight--suggest that the Planning
Board hand out violations to every container and therefore every resident who has
a container on their property and then have the Building Commissioner enforce
each of THEIR complaints. and then they, especially Chairman Mark Weinress-is scolding
the Building Commissioner for not stepping up to the podium and highly support
their ridiculous container by-law that no one wanted.

What is wrong with this board? Have they lost their collective  minds? do they
think they are the enforcement officers of this town?

It is amazing and shocking to hear them. and they blame the town for not voting
on their unnecessary zoning by-law, as if we are the problem and as if our
votes do not count.'

This is a problematic board that hardly understands the limits to their own
board.
8:18 pm est 

What Hypocricy!

POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK

How interesting!!! People are bad mouthing folks who leave town for the
winter..and yet one of them is the very guy who has left town every year for
warm beaches world wide since he arrived in town and worked where I used to
work.

Go figure. What Hypocrisy.
7:46 pm est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

The Soup Kitchen is For Those Who Need It

It is not simply a place to meet your neighbors, have fun and discuss local
stuff. It has a purpose and it is beyond entertaining bored winter residents. It
is for those who need a meal, are helped by the serving of lunch and have a
place to go.

dropping ten bucks into a bucket is not the spirit that it was intended to be.
Try George's instead. Or go see your mother-in-law for lunch!
7:30 pm est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

The soup kitchen accepts donations. Every time I go to eat I always
put in money, sometimes 5 or 10 bucks. How do you know these people you so call
see, aren't doing the same thing? You don't. You just like to splatter your
opinion which is so far from the truth on a anonymous site. Pathetic. I go
there, give money and socialize. Do not assume that the people you see are
wealthy and eating for free. Your opinion is what is wrong with people just
assuming.  Don't assume everyone is seeking a handout. The soup kitchen is one
of they few places in town that does not "judge"
7:26 pm est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

"So now we have a self appointed  arbiter of opinion and correctness.
Your continual interjections and rebuttals are monotonous and self-righteous.
You and your high horse should take a hike."


Ok, I'll take a hike.  I need a break from your overgeneralizing BS that wants
to show that you can be the most negative person in town.  What do you like?   I
can't believe that you get so peeved by critical comments.  You must have years
of experience that should have produced a pretty tough skin by now.  I'll check
back to see your next drivel when I get back from a hike around the Beech
Forest.  If it is Ok I'll leave the horse home.  I need the exercise.
7:24 pm est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

"Maybe you should say "some" instead of "many". How often do you go to be able
to know who goes regularly and who stops by now and then. ALso, did it ever
occur to you that the people who you KNOW to be so well off, may donate a great
deal to the SK and give much more than they get. You don't know and I don't
know. SO maybe it would be best if we both shut up and stop looking for the
negative."


So now we have a self appointed  arbiter of opinion and correctness. Your continual
interjections and rebuttals are monotonous and self-righteous. You and your high horse
should take a hike.
1:53 pm est 

Re: Our Lovely Hotel Room

"$24/night but what did it cost you to GET to Europe? From your door here in
Provincetown to there and back, meals, transfers, planes or boats tickets, all
costs, what's the total cost divided by number of days. I'll bet it's cheaper
for someone to visit here from off cape for the same number of days."


And do what?
1:46 pm est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

"You are so right!  Many of the people who go to lunch there daily
have jobs and good incomes."


Maybe you should say "some" instead of "many".  How often do you go to be able
to know who goes regularly and who stops by now and then.  ALso, did it ever
occur to you that the people who you KNOW to be so well off, may donate a great
deal to the SK and give much more than they get.  You don't know and I don't
know.  SO maybe it would be best if we both shut up and stop looking for the
negative.
1:40 pm est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

You are so right!  Many of the people who go to lunch there daily have jobs and
good incomes.  They should be ashamed of themselves.  Some claim it is an
opportunity to socialize.  BS, go to a restaurant and buy lunch!  Support the
businesses that are open and more will see the opportunity.  Just like
affordable housing, the Soup Kitchen supports many (not all...) local people who
can well afford lunch.  I use to donate to the SK because I thought it was a
worthy cause.  Then I moved to town to live year-round and discovered who thee
majority of the "guests" are.  Final word... buy your own lunch at a restaurant
if you can afford it.  The town does not need more free loaders.
1:27 pm est 

Re: Posted in Provincetown Voters - Secret Ballot

"In order to have an open and well-represented Spring Town Meeting,
Monday, April 6th at 6pm, all Provincetown Voters should attend and vote - by
Secret Ballot. Secret Ballots will increase Votes and Attendance."



If every article were decided by secret ballot, then it would take forever to
get through the meeting.  I would be out of there way before the end.  Can uou
imagine sitting around doing nothing for the interminable time it takes to
collect the ballots, count them, tally them and than announce the results. 
Again, this is a very complex solution to a non-existent problem.  Open votes
have been going forth since the first town meeting. The real drag is the
repeated and repeated stuff offered by a certain small group that loves to hear
their own voices and thinks that when they say what has already been said over
and over again, that their voice is more convincing.
1:23 pm est 

Re: Our Lovely Hotel Room

$24/night but what did it cost you to GET to Europe? From your door here in
Provincetown to there and back, meals, transfers, planes or boats tickets, all
costs, what's the total cost divided by number of days. I'll bet it's cheaper
for someone to visit here from off cape for the same number of days.
1:21 pm est 

Re: Coastal Acres

"If affordables were to be built at the camp ground they are exempt from
wetland setbacks and other town restrictions."


Not septic and the groundwater is not far below the surface. Major issue.
1:18 pm est 

Posted in Provincetown Voters
 11:47am Jan 23
In order to have an open and well-represented Spring Town Meeting, Monday, April 6th at 6pm, all Provincetown Voters should attend and vote - by Secret Ballot. Secret Ballots will increase Votes and Attendance. Per below, Provincetown General Bylaws allows us to vote by secret ballot on any motion at Town Meeting.

4-4. Voting at town meeting.
4-4-4-1. Majority of voters may order a secret ballot. A majority of those present and voting may order that the vote on any motion be taken by a secret ballot.
4-4-4-3. Town Clerk to provide ballot forms. The Town Clerk shall provide sufficient forms for all votes to be taken by secret ballot.

Provincetown General Bylaws
11:54 am est 

Re: Soup Kitchen

Yes, I saw guys two guys walking out of there who are super rich. I was so
shocked. Plus, all of the tradesmen go there. That is why people I know stopped
donating money.

They pay a fortune to them to get some windows installed and then see them
eating there.
11:32 am est 

Re: Coastal Acres

If affordables were to be built at the camp ground they are exempt
from wetland setbacks and other town restrictions.
9:39 am est 

Re: Our Lovely Hotel Room

"Our lovely hotel room in Europe, chosen by our friend because it is
close to where he lives and which he visited, is $24.00 PER NIGHT! And it
includes breakfast."



Europe, eh?  Where?  Are you comparing here to there on anything other than
price?  What is your point?
9:38 am est 

Only the Needy

This town is just so pathetic.    Everyone complains about low income,
the cost of going out to eat, the old chief of police,  what about thenfactbthat
we have a so called soup kitchen that caters to people that are supposed to be
in need of food but drive by there the cars out front are pretty nice cars, I
went in one day to see who was in there and to my surprise there were locals who
are well off have beautiful homes yet go get a free lunch,,  people in this town
are cheap and just want things for free.  Close the kitchen to people who don't
need it.
9:30 am est 

Our Lovely Hotel Room

Our lovely hotel room in Europe, chosen by our friend because it is close to
where he lives and which he visited, is $24.00 PER NIGHT! And it includes
breakfast.

Our plane ticket cost us $535.00 Round Trip from Boston. I'm just saying that it
is possible to visit other places very cheaply just like it is easy to live in a
four bedroom home in another city for $30,000.00

One doesn't have to pine and suffer and live hand to mouth in Provincetown where
there are no serious year round jobs except at town hall and a few other venues.

It is possible to have a very comfortable life other places for a fraction of
the cost of living in Provincetown.
12:04 am est 

Update of Nomination Papers Requested/Returned

As of 1/15/15

Last Day to Obtain Nomination Papers is Thursday, March 12th by 5:00 pm

Last Day to submit Nomination Papers for Certification is
Tuesday, March 17th by 5:00 pm

Beneath each office is listed those individuals who have taken out nomination papers to run for that office, and
the date they returned papers with at least 20 qualified voters of the Town, if applicable.
Town Moderator:
One position for a three-year term beginning May 6, 2015 to May 1, 2018.
Mary Jo Avellar
Board of Selectmen:
One position for a three-year term beginning May 6, 2015 to May 1, 2018.
School Committee:
Two positions for a three-year term beginning May 6, 2015 to May 1, 2018.
Christopher J. Brooke
Board of Library Trustees:
Two positions for a three-year term beginning May 6, 2015 to May 1, 2018.
Donna M. Vaillancourt
One position for a two-year term beginning May 6, 2015 to May 2, 2017.
One position for a one-year term beginning May 6, 2015 to May 3, 2016.
Charter Enforcement Commission:
Two positions for a three-year term beginning May 6, 2015 to May 1, 2018.
One position for a two-year term beginning May 6, 2015 to May 2, 2017.
One position for a one-year term beginning May 6, 2015 to May 3, 2016.
Housing Authority:
One position for a five-year term beginning May 6, 2015 to May 5, 2020.
For additional information please contact Town Clerk Doug Johnstone at 508.487.7013 or
djohnstone@provincetown-ma.gov .
12:00 am est 

Thursday, January 22, 2015

Press Release From: Provincetown Office of the Town Clerk,

http://www.provincetown-ma.gov/DocumentCenter/View/4494


PRESS RELEASE

Office of the Town Clerk, 260 Commercial Street, Provincetown, Massachusetts 02657
508.487.7013 email: djohnstone@provincetown-ma.gov
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015
Contact: Doug Johnstone, Town Clerk 508.487.7013
Nomination Papers Available for May 5, 2015 Town Election
Provincetown, Massachusetts - Nomination papers for the Town of Provincetown's Annual Town Election to be
held on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 are now available from the Office of the Town Clerk located at Provincetown
Town Hall, 260 Commercial Street, Provincetown, MA 02657. Any registered voter of the town shall be
eligible for election to any office, but no person shall concurrently hold more than one elected office. Election
to any office shall be nonpartisan. The following offices will appear on the ballot:
Town Moderator:
One position for a three-year term beginning May 6, 2015 to May 1, 2018.
Board of Selectmen:
One position for a three-year term beginning May 6, 2015 to May 1, 2018.
School Committee:
Two positions for a three-year term beginning May 6, 2015 to May 1, 2018.
Board of Library Trustees:
Two positions for a three-year term beginning May 6, 2015 to May 1, 2018.
One position for a two-year term beginning May 6, 2015 to May 2, 2017.
One position for a one-year term beginning May 6, 2015 to May 3, 2016.
Charter Enforcement Commission:
Two positions for a three-year term beginning May 6, 2015 to May 1, 2018.
One position for a two-year term beginning May 6, 2015 to May 2, 2017.
One position for a one-year term beginning May 6, 2015 to May 3, 2016.
Housing Authority:
One position for a five-year term beginning May 6, 2015 to May 5, 2020.
Election packets for candidates are available from the Provincetown Town Clerk's Office. The last day for a
candidate to obtain nomination papers is 5 p.m. on Thursday, March 12, 2015. Nomination papers must then be
filed with the Town Clerk before 5 p.m. on Tuesday, March 17, 2015. For additional information please contact
Town Clerk Doug Johnstone at 508.487.7013.
11:58 pm est 

Put Another Log on the Fire

I understand it gets even juicier in the emails yet to be posted.

These emails will be a great problem for Jaran, Candaice and Lynn. Someone
is going to have a field day in court.

These emails will  justify a demand for the release of all withheld
material....Oh boy! 
11:55 pm est 

Seems Jeff Jaran Used His Police Position to Harm

He surely found a way to get back at certain people in town who did not agree
with his decision or demand to have that $13 million police station.

11:45 pm est 

Well, Well, Well

Didn't Sharon Lynn have plenty of time to communicate with Candace Nagle. And
didn't Candace Nagle get involved in so many committees, town boards, and
issues. who did she think she is? and why would Sharon Lynn respond to every
questions, every e-mail from Candace Nagle? this is problematic.
11:44 pm est 

Re: You Are so Wrong

"When people complain about the high prices here in Provincetown and
the lower prices available in Paris--and even now in Boston for $120 a
night--they are not saying this to demean the town or put people down. they are
stating facts.
You may disagree but you are wrong to attack them for their viewpoints."


One of us has a reading comprehension problem.  I can't find a post that says
anything about lower prices in Paris.  i found a reference to high prices in
paris but nothing about low.

Your points might be taken more seriously if they were on target with the facts.
11:41 pm est 

Saudi King Has Died

Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz died on Thursday, Reuters reports. He was believed to be 91.
6:51 pm est 

You Are so Wrong
 
When people complain about the high prices here in Provincetown and the lower
prices available in Paris--and even now in Boston for $120 a night--they are 
not saying this to demean the town or put people down. they are stating facts.
You may disagree but you are wrong to attack them for their viewpoints.
6:49 pm est 

Planning Board - What's Next?

PLANNING BOARD WANTS TO CURTAIL OUR RIGHTS

The planning board wants town meeting to vote to prevent people from controlling
their rental property. They want to change the laws so that people can't turn
the apartments that they own into condos.

They want everything geared for affordable housing. They can pack town meeting
with their zealots and they will vote to ban condo conversions and anything else
that they want in order to be their beloved affordable housing.

All of this housing talk and yet another business closes. All of this housing
talk  for a tourist community and retirement community. All of this affordable
housing talk but no talk about jobs. All of this affordable housing talk--and
the taxpayers will have to pay for it.

Welcome to fulfilling the wish list of the planning board and the zealots of
affordable housing.
6:47 pm est 

Same as it Ever Was

"Just getting a meal and drinks set them back $100.00. How are the
people who live in the affordable housing going to keep the winter economy going
when the prices are this high?"


I don't know about you but being able to afford restaurants was not always in my
budget and I can't afford to eat out all that much now.  Thank goodness we like
to cook and when we want a drink before dinner, we know how to make one.  Where
is it written that all must be able to afford to eat in restaurants in a resort
town with real estate prices through the roof and taxes about as high as they
come. Do you think that rent is the only component of the price of a meal
outside the home?  You never ran a business.  Think of all the places that have
gone out of business over the years.  Why?  It is not easy to make a go of a
place that is open full time for ten weeks and maybe part time for  a few more. 
Stop whining.  Restaurants are not in business to make your life better. Like
all businesses they exist to make money.  They are not social agencies.  Human
nature (the market place) sets the rules for a place like PT.  As a famous guy
once said, "It is what it is".
6:43 pm est 

Re: $220.00 Hotel Room For Nine Days

"The prices in Europe are much more reasonable than prices for rooms
here or prices for dinners."



And when was the last time that you were in Paris or London?  This is just
another post that knocks everything in town.  Leave if it is so bad.  Try to get
a hotel room in paris or London for less than $250 in a decent area with a
decent review.  And the food is just as high. Some places like Barcelona  are
not as bad, but their economy is in shambles. try Boston or new York or key West
or long Island.
1:35 pm est 

What Will MIchelle J's Salary Now Be?

It seems outrageous. She is part-time and what is that amount? she has not done
good work with housing. Look at the mess we're in after how many years of her
working on housing? And few people who need housing get it. This is ridiculous.
Is she collecting two salaries? Monies as temporary assistant town manager and
monies/salary as housing specialist? Can any tell me if Michelle Jaruwicz is
collecting two salaries?
1:33 pm est 

Gouging People

GOUGING PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DINE OUT

There are restaurants that been in the family for generations. There are
restaurateurs who have no mortgage. I can make chowder at home or a pizza just
as they do in the restaurant, so I know what it costs--and they are greedy
because they can get away with charging outlandish prices because the new
eatiers with their big mortgages need to charge a certain price--so all of them
get on the band wagon.

Look at the cost of a pizza. Some of business owners own so many restaurants and
guest houses here and in other countries and yet they charge and arm and a leg
for a pizza.

I'm just stating a fact. My neighbors were going out to eat at a restaurant
special night--the line was so long that they decided to go someplace just to
get a meal.

Just getting a meal and drinks set them back $100.00. How are the people who
live in the affordable housing going to keep the winter economy going when the
prices are this high?

When we get on a fixed income we are selling and moving out because we have no
choice.
1:31 pm est 

Re: Coastal Acres

Coastal Acres existed long before the subdivision did. The fight between Manny
and Matt for access was settled long ago. Putting a subdivision on that property
would actually reduce the traffic going down there as opposed to multiple
campers and cars daily. If it stays as a campground, the new owners will need to
upgrade the septic systems for the campsites. If it become a subdivision, the
land in buffer due to the wetlands that surrounds it will reduce the number of
lots. Either way, it seems to make it almost not worth the effort.
1:27 pm est 

Over Pricing

I have also thought that the food prices here are too expensive. I
know economics and I get it that the businesses overcharge to make money but
seriously?!? Its almost like they up the prices by 300%. And then they only stay
open in the peak months and close for the rest of the season and there is
nothing for us year rounders. Maybe if they set there prices back to normal in
the winter, they COULD stay open year round. Like the previous poster, why is it
that everywhere else has the same food or pizza at a way cheaper price? The
businesses here have no reason to over charge by THAT MUCH. Its not like they
are flying their food in from Italy or China. I have never understood why I
should pay almost 45 dollars for pizza esp when anywhere else it's 20 for two
large pies. Yes, your pizza taste the exact same. And paying for a bowl of
chowder that taste the exact same as anywhere else OFF of the cape. Seriously
folks. You should lower your prices when all the tourists leave and give us year
rounders a break. Remember we work for you during the summer, we don't have
that much money.
11:59 am est 

CPA Meeting Today:

Community Housing Office, Housing Specialist -
 
$113,677: funding of Housing Office including 35 hours per
week for full-time Housing Specialist and 5 hours per week for CPA
Administration along with pro-rated health benefits and some expenses with
Housing Specialist.

Probably more than David Gardner is making..outrageous!

Her mentality is also not in sync with many who moved from 90 Shank Painter. In
her town manager job interview she stated, "those who were 'lucky' enough to get
apartments at 90 shank Painter." while being fully aware of all the problems and
people who moved out, no wonder the BOS like her. Constant denial and promotion
of failed projects must be a prerequisite to work for the town.
11:17 am est 

You Are so Right!

The prices in Europe are much more reasonable than prices for rooms here or
prices for dinners. Provincetown needs a reality check when it comes to prices.
Because I believe from this summer and the decrease in tourists, we are
beginning to price ourselves out! We are not competitive but arrogant in
believing they will come no matter what. Well, they won't and they have started
to go elsewhere. And it will get worse if our prices don't start to change and
reflect reality.
11:13 am est 

$220.00 Hotel Room For Nine Days

We are going to Europe. Our hotel room with breakfast included that is very
close to a park and near a famous river is $220.00 for nine days.

My God, that is LESS than the bill for our dinner when three of us go out to eat
here at a nice restaurant here and have a regular meal with wine or drinks.
9:49 am est 

Coastal Acres Camp Ground - For Sale

All the abutting neighbors of the Coastal Acres Camp Ground have
received written notice that the camp grounds will be sold. If the neighbors
allow access to this property through their private way it could open up
opportunities for developers and enhance town taxes.
9:23 am est 

Wednesday, January 21, 2015

Re: Joe Coffee

Well, the sign on the door says "see you in the spring" so I hope they do reopen
then.

The building is for sale for $2.75M if anyone wants to try their own hand at
running a cafe year-round and being a landlord to the pilates studio and the
clothing shop.

http://www.3harborsrealty.com/listing/21409126/170-commercial-provincetown-ma-02657/
10:06 pm est 

Here's How to Dress for Candyland

Put on a blond wig, put on a smirk, drive around town, call Jeff Jaran for
help, and be Candyland herself!!
10:23 am est 

PBG

What a stupid theme for Carnival. What are we to dress as,?
Sugarplums, candy canes and gummy bears?
If someone can explain this theme to me perhaps I may get a better grip.
9:56 am est 

Joe's Coffee

Joes coffee said they'd be a full season business when they
Moved closer to the center of town. Well, what ptown business,s
Say is one thing and do is another. Typical ptown.
9:55 am est 

Who Will Spend the Money?

I'm so sick of listening to low income housing we don't need low
income housing we don't need the campground  turning into low income we have
enough.   Don't you want tourist to come here, why do you want this town filled
with low income,   More business will close if we don't get the tourist back.   
Low income not the answer.  We need people to spend money n. Come on people
9:54 am est 

Last Year-Tough Making Payroll

Last Winter, some business couldn't make payroll. How many folks who spend the
winter here are dining out, going on shopping trips down Commercial Street,
dropping in for coffee and tea or lunch or breakfast at a regular pace?

Here,where I live in the winter, we can get a Martini for $6.00, and suppers for
$9.95 so even though we have a roast in the fridge from Monday, we decided at
the last minute to just go out to dinner last night.

It cost us $22.00 each with drinks. Provincetown can't afford these low prices
where a bowl of chowder costs $6.00. We go out with friends when we go to
Provincetown once a month in the winter, but we get a bill and it is almost
$300.00 for three of us!  Compare that to $22.00 each including two glasses of
wine for one person and a top shelf drink for me.
9:52 am est 

Tuesday, January 20, 2015

Dwindling Numbers

Joe Coffee bankrupt and closed? This doesn't speak very well of our
off season business in Ptown. It's sad to see the dwindling number of businesses
that are able to make it year round here. :-(
11:05 pm est 

Monday, January 19, 2015

Clamming

Clamming has been great this year and the weather has been marvelous..  Lots of
good size clams for good eating...

Everyone should get the chance and try it...  It is so much fun ( and work) but
well worth it....  Everyone I know is always willing to help the next person who
may be having trouble digging....

There are alot of good people out there and willing to lend a hand....

Check it out !
12:23 pm est 

Absolutely Not!

Our temporary I hope assistant town manager is not competent to be town manager.
Remember she lost in Truro and she lost here when compared to other candidates.
she has no gumption, few ideas, no strategy and we need someone with vision--yes
a word you don't like--but we need.

And it ain't her! It's appalling that Gardner appointed her to be assistant town
manager. If there were other candidates, she would have lost this one too!
12:20 pm est 

Town Manager Search

The acting town manager was not overlooked. It's our understanding he did not
want the position ad TM. The acting assistant at present did apply but was not
chosen. Now, for housing, if a TM has to make a lot of money to live here to pay
for housing how is everyone else already paying rent or a mortgage living on
much much less. Really!
12:18 pm est 

Sunday, January 18, 2015

Re: Selina Trieff

Selina and her husband Bob Henry, another great artist, who stood by
her and never let grass grow under their feet or be consumed by self pity, they
just forged ahead.  Bravo, excellent examples of humanity in my book.  We won't
see the likes of them again for a long long time.  They broke the mold.
11:59 pm est 

Yes, the Patriots Won!

Life is good! this is so great! they played well and the game against the Colts
was a great game. You never felt that it was a done deal until it was done deal.

Bravo!! To all Patriots fans, congratulations!
11:57 pm est 

Re: Town Manager

I hope everyone realizes that the Police Chief makes more than the Town
Manager... seems a bit lopsided to me...

But more disturbing is the the expectation that the Town Manager be a "leader"
or "visionary" -- that role should be our elected officials, the Board of
Selectmen! The Town Manager is there to execute their vision.

I'm disappointed that the BoS has this idea that they'll find someone from
outside who will be better able to run the town than the very capable current
Acting Town Manager and Acting Assistant Town Manager. It's amazing to me that
they have both been completely overlooked in this search process.
11:56 pm est 

Re: So How Are the Clams This Year?

"How are the flats? Is it a good year for the little ones? Is it the
same without Tony jacket? somehow I doubt it."


Happy as clams!  Very good year.  Been half dozen time and get quota each time
in less than an hour of raking.

Tony being gone has no influence on clamming this year.  With area rotation we
won't know about his influence for three more years.  I hope that someone sets
the seed this year.
3:39 pm est 

You Are the Best! - Thank You

To the person who feels they should ride there horse down my street
and let him shi.. everywhere I say thanks.  You are the best
2:29 pm est 

Provincetown Surfers

Yeap, the Provincetown surfers are in Hawaii, Costa Rica, Florida, etc etc and
they come on here and clamor for affordable housing..what a sick joke.

Man, that is so sic, so rah, so rave, so down with that...give me a break.
11:53 am est 

Re: Town Manager

I agree with the poster about the town manager making so much money,
but of course the town has to pay that much esp with the rule that the town
manager has to live here. How the heck could they AFFORD to live in this
ridiculously over priced and under educated town?? The law is the town manager
has to live here, but not the teachers, the police department, the fire
department, the doctors nurses or dentists at outer cape, have to live here.
Lets see who else works here that does not have to live here and spends their
money in other towns and sends their kids to other schools . Umm, the harbor
masters, DPW, library directors and employees, Rec department workers, COA,
committees and charters. Did I leave anyone out?? I wish they could hold some
college courses in "common sense" here at the library and make some town hall
employees and all the select man sign up. Whadda ya think?
11:51 am est 

It is a Long Weekend!!

It is Martin Luther's Holiday and a day of celebration. there should be more
people in town. but there are fewer places to met and greet. ah, there is always
Fanizzi's!
11:45 am est 

So How Are the Clams This Year?

How are the flats? Is it a good year for the little ones? Is it the same without
Tony jacket? somehow I doubt it.
11:42 am est 

Saturday, January 17, 2015

South Beach Sighting
 
Saw a gorgeous hunk from P'town surfing in South Beach.

All is well in the world!

Love,

Darla
7:46 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

Rents in California, Boston and New York

And the job avail abilities and salaries are...............you fail to mention
that.
5:07 pm est 

Second Home Ownership

Its really sickening to hear anyone defending the concept of owning
more than one home when we live in a world where people sleep on the street and
in cardboard boxes with subzero temperatures.  REALITY CHECK. Look in the
mirror, wipe off the smug entitled look and wake the heck up.
5:05 pm est 

Town Manager

I was personally horrified to hear the debate re: what type of 6
figure salary to award our new town manager. Who amongst us with the exception
of our esteemed second home owners perhaps earns a salary even remotely close to
this?  We are a town where year round residents earn an average income of well
less than 40k annually. Have we become an aristocracy where our rulers are
awarded all the wealth? Are we crowning a new monarch?  Many people including
myself moved to Provincetown from the outside for the BENEFIT of living in
Provincetown;  full on expecting to make a whole lot less money and prepared to
budget accordingly. Shouldn't the manager of our town be the type of person that
should appreciate this same form of benefit? Couldn't we find someone who loves
our town and would do a wonderful job for a modest and reasonable salary, and
not the ridiculous sum of $140k??
5:04 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

As of December, 2014, average apartment rent within 10 miles of
Boston, MA is $2418. 

One bedroom apartments in Boston rent for
$2080 a month on average and two bedroom apartment rents average $2524.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
As of December, 2014, average apartment rent within 10 miles of New York, NY is
$3288. 

One bedroom apartments in New York rent for $2933 a month
on average and two bedroom apartment rents average $3670.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
As of December, 2014, average apartment rent within 10 miles of San Francisco,
CA is $3413. 

One bedroom apartments in San Francisco rent for
$2873 a month on average and two bedroom apartment rents average $3859.
1:30 pm est 

Re: Teeny Tiny Houses

Why doesn't it make sense to live small? Many people do. I'd take small
affordable and secure housing situation over unaffordable rent and a situation
where I live on the edge dreading the day my house is sold to/by an investor any
day. What is it you don't get about Provincetown? Honestly, if you don't support
the values in Provincetown that want to support a year round community then why
live here in the first place? If you want indifference to community why not just
more back to the city? There's plenty of that there! How sad that you want to
live here and yet belittle the community in which you live....
1:28 pm est 

Re : Affordable Housing

Festivals Take Work

It is a chore to get folks to attend something like a DART meeting. yet people
want to have a Winter Frozen crystal palace event or something else to attract
people.

If you have an idea, then YOU execute it. Don't we should..no you should.

It is so easy to come with all kinds of ideas--but it takes a lot of effort and
commitment-and you can't even get people to walk into a room and attend a
hearing about housing!

For years there has been talk about housing, about the virtuous circle, about
cantelivered housing over the parking lot.

countless postings on facebook pages year, after year after year by the same ten
or fifteen people. relentlessly--but they won't do anything..except talk..

2015 and it is still going on for year after year after year..and it will be
again but the year will be 2020 and I'll be posting this again.
10:45 am est 

Re: Diminishing Returns

DIMINISHING RETURNS-INSIGHT

It skipped my mind in all of this talk about about the winter community in
Provincetown--it exits but in other towns where they live in the winter

10:28 am est 

Teeny Tiny Houses

How sad that I've seen four bedroom houses in other states for sale for
$30,000.00 yet the housing folks want to buy sheds for people to live in at
taxpayer expense and put them all around town and call them teeny tiny houses.

It is like living in a door room year round with a bathroom and kitchen and no
storage place except for what you are wearing on your back and can store in big
back pack.

Being thirty plus years old and clamoring for such housing just doesn't make
sense.
10:26 am est 

Locals Who Bought Second Homes

Howdie folks. Let me introduce myself. We lived in Provincetown for 20
years...and then we bought our second home where we go in the Winter and both
now have no mortgage.

Please read again. Like many locals who worked hard, we too bought another
place. Lots of folks have a place where they ski in the winter and lots have
places in Florida.

You seem to think that it is all these Forbes 500 who came to town and bought
places. NO No no. Lots of locals have their summer and winter places.

They have their cars, their boats, their get away cottage, their vacations,
their retirement funds, their investments and their property.

Not everyone who has lived here a lifetime is living hand to mouth. You could
have worked hard or gone in with friends and bought a house years ago..So many
people my age are complaining and demanding affordable housing.

Or they just moved here recently and have gone on the bandwagon.

Remember, any affordable housing built using any government money is then
available for anyone who is living in any state of the union or its territories.

over 380,000,000 people from Puerto Rico to Saipan, every state from Hawaii and
Alaska to Florida and Maine--anyone who is eligible can apply for affordable
housing in Provincetown--all they have to do is come to town and get a job : )
10:23 am est 

Friday, January 16, 2015

Diminishing Returns

Amen to the previous poster.

Many of us -- including "year rounders" -- have established ourselves in winter
communities. So brace yourself for a the continuous diminishing year-round
community. You have the Stop & Shop all to yourselves!

10:31 pm est 

Re: Sick and Tired

I'm tired of Your Being tired of Being vilified

One note Rhonda! Get on with other issues.
4:28 pm est 

Re: Vacant Homes - Second Home Owners

"Vacant homes are just what you said. VACANT! How are these homes
contributing to our year round community? They are not. It's the year round
community which makes this town what it is. Don't forget that. Ever."


Some one said that town government is the biggest employer in town.  Sounds like
it might be true.  So who pays these people?  Lots of trades people in town all
day.  Who are they working for?  Who pays them?  Whether a house is vacant or
not it pays taxes.  That pays the town employees.  Whether houses are vacant off
season or not, they must be renovated, repaired and improved.  That takes money
that pays the tradespeople.

It seems that some folks have a very hard time thinking things through from
start to finish.  Yes, there is a huge gap in the economic status of people in
town.  There are full times who are probably very well off.  There are part
timers who save and scrape to be able to join us for whatever time they can. 
Jealousy is a hard emotion to beat.  It is always easy to find someone or some
group to blame and hate. Think of religious and racial hatred.
2:55 pm est 

Things to Come

"Housing is an issue all over this country. Jobs are drying up. In
Twenty Five years a majority of jobs will disappear.

Soon long distance trucks will be run by computers. accountants will go the way
of travel agents soon. The stores have self check out--even Walmart."



What doom and gloom.  Of course the poster is expressing an opinion not
demonstrable fact.  Housing is an issue in many places.  Jobs are NOT drying up
at this time but rather jobs are being added to the point that the unemployment
rate is projected to be about 5% by the end of the year.  This is a number many
consider to be full employment.

Yes to the changes.  No more buggy whips.  No more rotary phones.  Lots of
change.  Who will make the trucks.  Who will make the computers that operate the
trucks.  Who will pave and maintain the roads.  Who will build and maintain all
the automation.  Will it be better?  Who knows.  Will it be worse?  Who knows.
2:42 pm est 

Affordable Housing

“Rental Levels-What can I afford?” is MISLEADING. These are Barnstable County figures only.

As you can view under "Rental Levels - What can I afford?", HUD Barnstable County Income limits defines - The 2014 Area Median Income for a Household of four in Barnstable County as $74,900, Household of two is $59,900... affordable housing online.com. All towns in Barnstable County, including Provincetown, use Barnstable County Median Household Income Limits qualified by number of household residents in order to qualify for HUD Affordable Housing. This is unfair to Provincetown permanent residents/voters since Median Household Incomes in Provincetown have been/are lower than those in Barnstable County. We are a poorer community than these HUD figures alone reveal. And Provincetown permanent residents are being asked to qualify for HUD Affordable Housing (types of housing that take funds from the state) based on higher Barnstable County median income limits than we can afford or make.

One can view below that the MHI Median Household Income for Provincetown is lower than for Barnstable County.
2014 Median Household Income for Provincetown $48,523
2014 Median Household Income for Barnstable County $58,620
Provincetown's Median Household Income is approximately $10,000 less than Barnstable Median Household Income.

(Median Household Incomes vary somewhat according to the source one uses. The 2014 Median Household Incomes above are from same source. A median household income divides the income distribution into two equal groups, half household incomes above and half household incomes below.

(HUD Barnstable County Affordable Housing does not publish any Area Median Household Incomes for individual Barnstable County towns, including Provincetown.)

As an addendum, people of all incomes throughout the US, not just in Provincetown, hide income for tax reasons from the government.

http://massachusetts.hometownlocator.com/ma/barnstable/provincetown.cfm
2:12 pm est 

Sick and Tired

There are taxpayers and second home owners and condo owners who are tired of
being vilified as selfish, greedy people because they want to own property in
this beautiful town and rent it out at times to help ends meet.

Now people are saying that there should be a class war. The implication is that
the second homeowners or regular homeowners who aren't here in the winter are
sailing around in the yachts sipping the cocktail du jour and then dashing off
in their helicopter to some red carpet event.

We work too. We love Provincetown too. You want us to get together and finance
housing for people who want to live here in Provincetown year round. Thus we
help pay for their housing while they go surfing during the winter or take off
and go to Florida for a while or some other beach paradise and then return in
the summer to work the jobs that give them a bountiful unemployment.

I'm sorry that you find yourselves living at time when housing is tough in
exclusive resort towns. This is a town where one may rent their apartment for
$25,000.00 for two months. Yes, it is hard to find a year round apartment
because condo owners want to live in their apartments too and come here too even
if it is only part time.

People who live here have a hard time. They are looking for year round roommates
to help them pay their mortgage. There is a home share program--but how sad that
you have to live in a town and then rent out to strangers in order to live in a
place.

The situation here is tough for housing..but calling for a class war is going to
accomplish nothing. The landlords are the people you are talking about going to
war with--so is this what you want to do? Will you make their life so miserable
or so expensive that their only choice is to switch from year round tenants who
want to go to war with them and instead \rent out to rich summer people?

2:10 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing
 
Provincetown is a summer resort offering jobs that cater to the comfort and
needs of tourists. Town Hall is the biggest employer in the town.

Walk down the street and look at all of the business that are closed. The people
who work at these place are not collecting a pay check. There are very few non
town government jobs here.

Yes there are convenient stores and grocery stores and tradesmen and women--but
what industry? What production? What year round jobs?

Housing is an issue all over this country. Jobs are drying up. In Twenty Five
years a majority of jobs will disappear.

Soon long distance trucks will be run by computers. Accountants will go the way
of travel agents soon. The stores have self check out--even Walmart.

Retail stores are going the way of Amazon.com. You want to move here and live
here and raise a family here--what jobs will you get?

There are over 350,000,000 Americans. How many dream of retiring to the
seashore? How many have huge incomes from investments and retirements? How many
worked here 30 years ago and dreamt of returning here and living here when they
retired?

The town tried to bring a year round employer here years ago--no one wanted to
work full time year round--so they went to Orleans. Life will go on here because
Provincetown is a beautiful place and people will pay $10,000.00 a month in the
summer to live here.
2:07 pm est 

Stay, Work, Get Older and Older and Then What?

What do you have living pay check pay check and then unemployment check to
unemployment check?

Look how the cost of electricity has risen-what will it be in five years? What
will affordable housing rents be in five years?

What happens when the Republicans in Washington DC reduce food stamps even more
or cut their subsidies for section 8 as they did last year? What happens if you
move into affordable housing and the noise and the gossip and the constant
monitoring gets too much and you have to move anyway?

You want the Town Government to provide housing but it is the business owners
who should get together and buy the apartment houses that are up for sale.

How long will you be able to the job you are doing? What happens if your feet
start to hurt or you become diabetic or you just age out of your job and you
can't be in the service job or construction job that you have?

With part of your wage always being under the table, what will your social
security be? What kind of life is it going out to dinner with friends and all
you can afford is to have an appetizer for your entree?

Years ago, I went to work and folks told me how hard it was to live in
Provincetown year round--they borrowed money from family.

Look at what it cost to live here fifteen years ago..and what it costs now--and
imagine what it will cost fifteen years from now. Each year we all get a year
older and do our options lessen or do they become greater?
2:05 pm est 

Re: Vacant Homes - Second Home Owners

Vacant homes are just what you said. VACANT! How are these homes
contributing to our year round community? They are not. It's the year round
community which makes this town what it is. Don't forget that. Ever.
2:02 pm est 

Re: What About the Children (Affordable Housing)

Yes!!!!! I agree with the poster about year round housing. For the
families esp with children, there should be places for them to live. They are in
fact all of ours future. If you have ever been to any of the school events, you
will see how amazing these parents and children are to our community!!!
2:00 pm est 

Re: Banner Article - D.P.W. /MacMillan Pier

As far as I know, the dpw and the pier are two different entities.
Money is allotted for them individually. And as far as I know, the pier has many
assistant harbor masters and a pier maintenance crew that do all of the things
you mentioned. Am I leaving anything out?
1:58 pm est 

Banner Article on New Planner

Interesting interview. Although I've not personally met the town planner, I can
only say I hope she will be as dedicated to our town ad was the previous permit
coordinator mrs. Notaro. Not only was she helpful on duty but she always never
seemed to mind answering questions when out of the office whether in the grocery
store or at dinner. How do I know this, because I was one of those individuals
that called upon her zoning knowledge.she was always courteous and helpful and
many of us miss her.
1:56 pm est 

Re: Jeff Jaran

"Buy Him Out! It's Not Too Late"


Are you writing the check?
1:54 pm est 

Re: What About the Children (Affordable Housing)

"What about the children who live here now? When they become 18 we tell them, ok,
you have to move somewhere else because it is just too expensive."


I hope we teach/tell them to leave the nest and learn to fly, to get out in the
world, explore, live, learn and find their own happiness.  I hope to god we dont
beggar and cajole them into staying around this geographical location just
because they were born or raised here.  Spinning their wheels while stuck in an
endless cycle of unsatisfying jobs and endless searches for subsidized housing.

The world is a big place with lots to offer that cant be found in our little
paradise.  In my opinion, children growing into young adults should get out in
the world, make friends, build relationships, expand their horizons and if after
that they decide they want the isolated and sometimes lonely life of our town,
by all means come back.

Things change.  Towns ebb and flow with industries and the vicissitudes of the
people of the time.  You cant force things back to the way they were through
wishing or government fiat.  Businesses build where they can best serve their
own ends.  Populations follow the availability of a means to make a living. 
Thats the way it is.  Thats the way it always was.

We should be thankful the second home owners came when they did.  If they didnt
come after the fishing industry waned, we would be a poverty stricken ghost town
twelve months a year instead of just four or five.

1:52 pm est 

Diminishing Returns

How many are we here in winter? Last year, I felt we were no more than 600. This
year, it is even more dwindling. 500 maybe? And don't look at the voter
registration. That is and remains the voter registration.

Just look around and see how many of your friends---are not here. In Puerto
Rico, someplace in Brazil, elsewhere in Fort Lauderdale, or off to Mexico.

But not here.  Off to another there.
1:49 pm est 

I Want to Thank George of George's Pizza

Thank you, thank you,  thank you. What would we do without you? You are always
open. You are always there. In the midst of January, you are a community hub.

It can't be easy to always be open but, by George!!, you do it and---you do it
well.

I am  most appreciative. You are a shining light in the midst of darkness.
1:47 pm est 

Johnson Street Parking Lot Over Run

How Much Did the Johnson Street Parking Lot cost us?
did someone say at last night's meeting that it was more than $120,000? And that
they went way over budget on this project. what really happened here?
1:46 pm est 

How About a Town Manager??

Where is he? where is she? Let's get a town manager, get some leadership here.
Otherwise, we are stuck. Can someone inform me on what is holding up the new
search? I am confused.
1:42 pm est 

Thursday, January 15, 2015

Re: Affordable Housing

I am really sick and tired of hearing the whole, "If you cant afford
to live here move" I recently heard this from someone close to me and could not
believe what I was hearing from this person who has children in our school! 
What about the children who live here now? When they become 18 we tell them,
"ok, you have to move somewhere else because it is just too expensive." How has
the housing crisis become their problem? They didnt create it. They cannot live
with their parents forever! I have known so many people ages 18-35 who have had
to move because they could not live here. So many children pulled out of our
school and moved to truro or wellfleet just to find somewhere to live. What does
that leave us? Old people and the rich who now have no one to take care of you
all? I have seen families who have had to move from Province Landing because
other neighbors complained relentlessly how loud they were. And again, children
moving from our school, children who as th!
ey get older work in our stores in the summer, scooping over priced ice cream,
delivering your pizzas or waiting on you for your very expensive dinners. What
about the young families? The people who were born and raised here who cannot
continue to carry on traditions because there is no where to live?? How is that
fair?? I am not saying there should be free housing, or cheap housing but just
year round housing in general. This is ridiculous that the town government has
allowed this to happen. I have spoken with so many people that would move back
to Ptown if there was a place for them to live. What kind of future do you
expect ptown to have when there are no generations of kids to grow up here? This
is not a straight issue or a gay issue, this is a community issue and everyone
should be figuring out a way to make this a year round community again, It is
not for uber rich or for only certain business owners to make millions each
summer for these ridiculous theme weeks. THis place is for all of us. To say
to someone to move, when this is all they know of home, is the  most vile and
insensitive thing to say to another human being and you all should be ashamed
of yourselves. Who is going to wipe your asses when you all are 70 and have no
one to take care of you?? Or has your
broken brain not thought that far ahead? We need families and children here. We
need to have the college kids come back home to get into town government and to
work for the museums here. Not always just more strangers moving here, we have
seen where that has got us. The school employees and the police and fire
departments should be able to live here. And they dont. They drive in for their
paychecks working here, and spend it in other towns. How does that benefit
Provincetown? It doesnt now does it?
10:06 am est 

Banner Article - D.P.W. /MacMillan Pier

It was surprising to read in a recent Banner that someone finally
discovered that the D.P.W. Director should be affiliated with MacMillan Pier
maintenance! It was always that way,when did it stop & why? The pier is a
roadway connected to Town property on the main thoroughfare ie; Commercial St. &
D.P.W. was always part of the responsibility for maintenance  on the
pier,replace lights & various other needs there,etc. as routine procedure!
perhaps someone finally checked past records to re-initiate policies that always
worked with joint department efforts!
10:00 am est 

Wednesday, January 14, 2015

Remembrance of Things Past

It's winter in Provincetown. As the snow flies, so do the feelings
about affordable housing, it's horrors, fairness or unfairness,the need,the
invitations to move out of town.

Surely others have been amused by this pattern. It would be laughable if housing
wasn't such a crucial issue in Provincetown and America. Haves, have nots and
barely hanging on. I wish for a kinder society. The one I started to grow up in
but appears to be long gone by now. Really, Provincetown was such a magical
place for a time.
3:28 pm est 

Buy Him Out! It's Not Too Late

Buy out Jeff Jaran's contract. This mediation non-sense goes on and one and on.
And if he loses--which he may not--he can still go to superior court. Thank you
Sharon Lynn. Thank you Kopelman & Paige.

So, the time is now--buy him out and he can stay in New Hampshire in his white
house on the hill, far away f rom here.
1:17 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

"Reply: I worked for a family owned business in town for many years.
They had two corporations set up. If you hit 40 hours in one corp then your
additional hours were paid straight time under the second corp. It was a good
job and I new if I complained I'd never get the hours I needed. This was tandard
procedure all over town for years - If you wanted to work on the books(which I
did). I left town 10 years ago so things may have changed"


A statistic of one is not valid.  Tell us about more businesses that do this and
name names.   You seem to fault the business for doing something,improper,
illegal and /or immoral, but you aided them by not reporting this activity to
law enforcement.
12:53 pm est 

Town Manager

If you are not happy with the process and you think our BoS are dragging their
feet then start a recall on them. We voted them in and we can vote them out. If
you feel that strongly about their processes then do something about it besides
complaining here. Complaining here gets us nowhere but a recall will lite the
fire underneath of them.
12:52 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

Sorry but if the Town is too expensive

then move to a place where you can live more reasonably and the houses are less
expensive and the rents more reasonable.

such is life. go where you can live happier for less.
12:49 pm est 

Re: Progressive Residential Exemption Tax

"If it weren't so desperate an issue for our Community, it would be
laughable that there was such pushback from second homeowners to not begin to
pay their fair share of taxes via the proposed Residential Exemption"


Oh brother! Trying to say that any property owner in Provincetown, no matter who
they are, is not "paying their fair share" is so assinine. Who the hell is
Louise Silver anyway? And how do we know she's paying her "fair share"? What a
joke!
12:46 pm est 

Re: Progressive Residential Exemption Tax

"The proposed Progressive Residential Exemption Tax was quite
conservative. If it weren't so desperate an issue for our Community, it would be
laughable that there was such pushback from second homeowners to not begin to
pay their fair share of taxes via the proposed Residential Exemption - equalling
some night(s) out worth of dinners in Provincetown. We really need a more
proactive one that levies steeper tax on non-permanent residents and with more
financial benefit to permanent residents. (The proposed Residential Exemption, I
believe, gave maximum of $700 to permanent residents/voters.). By providing more
financial benefits to permanent residents/voters, (as other Mass. towns have
done), we can mitigate the the financial burden to voters/permanent residents
when taxes need to be increased for Increasing Community Housing. And, by the
BoS - also passing other new taxes that will create revenue, i.e. Progressive
Transfer Tax, Licensing Fees for all seasonal/weekl!
y rentals, and tax homes that are vacant for 6 months+, this can also mitigate
the need for permanent residents/voters to pay more money when taxes need to be
increased. BoS, please put your constituency, Provincetown Voters/permanent
residents - Community First!"



Wow!! I used to be a "second homeowner" but now I live here full time as a
resident.  Why would a higher tax in the past result in me paying my "fair
share" more then than now.  Your logic defies me.  Explain fair share?  Does it
mean charge according to usage (fees) or does it mean that you could have
charged me more when I had no vote?  Or, does it mean that you just want to pay
less and don't really care about fairness or morality or community
relationships.  It seems to me that vacant homes should pay less since they use
less in the way of town services.  So why tax them more other than your
convoluted justification for your personal greed.
12:41 pm est 

Tuesday, January 13, 2015

Time to Hire a New Town Manager

What is holding this up? This is ridiculous. Start the search and then hire.
Time to move forward and we can't if are stuck in this acting position. Acting
Town Manager and Acting acting assistant town manager.

Let's go!
3:20 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

"Of course they are privately owned, this is not Cuba or Vietnam.  Of
course they can do the terrible things that you cite, BUT DO THEY?"
 

REPLY: I worked for a family owned business in town for many years. They had
two corporations set up. If you hit 40 hours in one corp then your additional
hours were paid straight time under the second corp. It was a good job and I new
if I complained I'd never get the hours I needed. This was standard procedure
all over town for years - If you wanted to work on the books(which I did). I
left town 10 years ago so things may have changed
3:16 pm est 

It's Lovely

Love the snow. Love to see Provincetown with this beauty. Edges of roads
sprinkled, branches lightly covered. Lovely!
3:14 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing vs Job Creation

"Local by-law won't work even though one member of our BOS thinks we
can circumvent Federal and State regs because we are different in Provincetown.
Fed regs should insist that seasonal foreign workers have pre-arranged lodging
though their employers. This could also alleviate our rental shortage in summer
for other native workers."



You say fed law "should", but does it?  Wishing won't make it so.

What do you mean by "other native workers ".  I's a real head-scratcher.
12:21 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing vs Job Creation

"Yes, the business owners need to provide housing for their staff.
Some workers are exploited here. They have no one to turn to because the owner
of the business is also their boss.

There isn't a personnel officer or a "higer up" to go to to complain to
regarding unfair labor practices.  Thus they continue and are on going.

If there were some retail stores here like at the mall, there would be general
manager etc to complain to. Also they wouldn't even have these practices.

Does the bank break labor laws--no. However, the business owner who has no one
to answer to calls the shots-even the illegal shots. Perhaps One day they will
end."



Did you read this after you wrote it?  If so, please take a minute to explain
it.  What unfair practices are you saying? What general manager do you complain
to?  Perhaps you are unaware that there are state and federal agencies that are
very involved in unfair labor practice.  If you know about illegal employment
activities it is your civic duty to report them to the proper authority.
Complaining here in some vague anonymous rant can't and won't fix anything.
12:19 pm est 

Progressive Residential Exemption Tax

Louise R Silver-

The proposed Progressive Residential Exemption Tax was quite conservative. If it weren't so desperate an issue for our Community, it would be laughable that there was such pushback from second homeowners to not begin to pay their fair share of taxes via the proposed Residential Exemption - equalling some night(s) out worth of dinners in Provincetown. We really need a more proactive one that levies steeper tax on non-permanent residents and with more financial benefit to permanent residents. (The proposed Residential Exemption, I believe, gave maximum of $700 to permanent residents/voters.). By providing more financial benefits to permanent residents/voters, (as other Mass. towns have done), we can mitigate the the financial burden to voters/permanent residents when taxes need to be increased for Increasing Community Housing. And, by the BoS - also passing other new taxes that will create revenue, i.e. Progressive Transfer Tax, Licensing Fees for all seasonal/weekly rentals, and tax homes that are vacant for 6 months+, this can also mitigate the need for permanent residents/voters to pay more money when taxes need to be increased. BoS, please put your constituency, Provincetown Voters/permanent residents - Community First!
12:17 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing vs Job Creation

Local by-law won't work even though one member of our BOS thinks we
can circumvent Federal and State regs because we are different in Provincetown.
Fed regs should insist that seasonal foreign workers have pre-arranged lodging
though their employers. This could also alleviate our rental shortage in summer
for other native workers.
11:00 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

You Are boring--Mr. One Note

Maybe Truro would like to hear your thoughts on affordable housing. I'm over
hearing the same bloody thing post after post.
10:55 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

Anti affordable housing knuckle draggers

Too bad the geniuses that have the time to incessantly post this anti-affordable
housing rant don't have enough intelligence to actually bring forth rational
objections to support their mission. Makes me wonder how they made it out of
high school!
10:53 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing vs Job Creation

HOUSING FOR WORKERS-ONUS ON BUSINESS OWNERS

Yes, the business owners need to provide housing for their staff. Some workers
are exploited here. They have no one to turn to because the owner of the
business is also their boss.

There isn't a personnel officer or a "higer up" to go to to complain to
regarding unfair labor practices.  Thus they continue and are on going.

If there were some retail stores here like at the mall, there would be general
manager etc to complain to. Also they wouldn't even have these practices.

Does the bank break labor laws--no. However, the business owner who has no one
to answer to calls the shots-even the illegal shots. Perhaps One day they will
end.
10:50 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

DART AND HOUSING SUMMIT WILL SAVE US

Please don't forget that DART has a game plan that will give us affordable
housing. Remember the Virtuous Circle and don't forget Stable Path.  There will
lots of affordable housing on the horizon with the lot that the town bought for
the police station and the old Community Center.

There will be lots of affordable housing in town for all of us--who cares what
the taxpayers say.
10:48 am est 

Monday, January 12, 2015

Re: Affordable Housing vs Job Creation

"I do not think any business in town should be able to benefit from
employing foreign help in summer without a guarantee of housing sponsored by the
business itself before the help arrives in town."


Any practical thoughts about implementation?  federal law?  state law?  Local
by-law?  how about the us and state constitutions?
11:48 pm est 

Same Boring Voice

It is the One and Same boring Voice on Affordable Housing

enough already. I am more than tired of reading your rants.
7:51 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing - Business Owners

"All of the business in town are privately owned. They answer to no
one. They can over work their help and under pay them.  They can give them two
time cards so that they don't work overtime."



Of course they are privately owned, this is not Cuba or Vietnam.  Of course they
can do the terrible things that you cite, BUT DO THEY?
7:47 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing vs Job Creation

I do not think any business in town should be able to benefit from
employing foreign help in summer without a guarantee of housing sponsored by the
business itself before the help arrives in town.
7:45 pm est 

Re: Health Agent

"Provincetown has had many times when we have not employed an individual who can
certify inspections and other issues. When it has happened in the past, the
services of the county have been utilized.

Please do not make it appear that this is a first for Provincetown."

The question is, what does the Job Description state as the position requirements?
What was used as the criteria to hire the agent or reject other applicants.
Usually, there is a time element placed of the acquisition of certification.
2:23 pm est 

Re: Health Agent

Re: Seems Dan Hoort Can do it all--so Let Him Inspect Septic Systems


I heard the Harwich Finance Director is leaving, maybe Hoort will take that job
which has a starting salary of $100,000 to $120,000/yr
2:11 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

POINT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING POSTINGS

We all know that this is anonymous, but the powers that be and regular citizens
drop by this site to see what is discussed.

Now they will see some opinions voiced. DART had how many citizens attend? Only
a handful weren't town hall folks.

The rest? only a smattering of residents. The place should have been mobbed.

At some point, there will be a change as more and more people see how quiet it
is here and where their tax dollars are going.
2:04 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing vs Job Creation

I AGREE-FIND THE JOBS

The easiest way out of finding jobs for people is for Town Hall, the Planning
board, the board of selectmen, the housing director et all to build affordable
housing at the taxpayer expense.

What they are doing is creating a renting class that will pack town hall and get
all that they want and make the taxpayers fund them.

The taxpayers have bought land and given it to developers. The taxpayers are
paying Tens of thousands of dollars every year to have someone tell people how
to manage their money

Now we are paying town employees to find housemates for people--when all they
need to do is put an ad on craigslist or Provincetown for rent and do their own
reference checks.

As a taxpayer, I'm fed up with being the Nanny Town for people who want to work
six months and relax and travel and play the other six months.

These aren't all writers and artists--they are surfers and lounge lizards and
pot smokers who just while away their days instead of doing what the folks at
the unemployement tell them which is to go off cape and look for work and
perhaps move.
2:02 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing 1:58 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

BUSINESS OWNERS

All of the business in town are privately owned. They answer to no one. They can
over work their help and under pay them.  They can give them two time cards so
that they don't work overtime.

Wake up. As a worker in this town who knows worker--I know what goes on.

Just look at the big complexes and business owned by some entrepreneurs and all
they do is talk and talk and rally to have the taxpayer pay for their worker's
housing.

Some business owners own multiple businesses, houses, guest houses, bars, etc
etc. Listen to how they are advocating for the taxpayers to provide housing.
They could take one of their business and house their employees--but they rally
the housing folks to do it.

Just go to some facebook pages and read some of the postings for the past two
years and see who wants the housing for their employees--and then do some
research and see how many properties they own.
1:43 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

Business owners and taxes....

Heres the answer to all whom complain about high taxes and
Affordable housing...... Move ........ It's the answer you love
to say to all ptowns working class. Sad.
1:40 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

"The problem is that the more affordable housing we build in town, the
more voters that now live here want a hand out.  This group that just takes is
becoming the majority and THEY decide how the tax dollars are spent.  Seventy
percent of the tax revenue comes from home owners that cannot vote and the
Affordable Housing contingent gets to decide where their dollars are spent.
Taxation without representation.  If all tax payers were allowed to vote, we
would see a different outcome.  The more Affordable Housing we build, the worse
the situation will become."



Very interesting observations that cannot be easily disputed. I'm not so sure
that everyone wants a handout.  It may be possible to build affordable housing
without taxes subsidizing it.  I really am not sure.  Non-resident property
owners will NEVER be allowed to vote since it is those that benefit from the
status quo that hold the power.

Taxation without representation may be immoral, but it is not illegal.
1:35 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

The developers of affordable housing in conjunction with town personnel ie
planning, town planner, housing specialist, tourism director and others should
explore how to bring year round business to town to provide employment for the
units the town wants to build.
1:23 pm est 

Re: Health Agent

Provincetown has had many times when we have not employed an individual who can
certify inspections and other issues.  When it has happened in the past, the
services of the county have been utilized.

Please do not make it appear that this is a first for Provincetown.
1:20 pm est 

Handout Population

 

Yes, the more affordable housing, the more all of the affordable housing folks

who rent come here and fulfill the agenda of the Affordable housing developers

and the people who make a living being paid by the town to create this housing.

The taxpayers paid tens of thousands of dollars to hire a consultant to tell

people how to manage their money.

The taxpayers are being held hostage to the affordable housing group to fulfill

their agenda on the backs of the taxpayers.

The town hall is geared towards this--to the detriment of the taxpayers--the

property owners will have more and more restricts thrust upon them until the

housing advocates determine how people can live here who own property--they will

be allowed to live if they give up their property rights.

Time to sell is this coming season.


10:54 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

 

"All of these businesses need employees and some of these businesses own tremendous

properties including guest houses and regular homes as

well as their several businesses.

What they want is for the taxpayers to subsidize their housing. All of the

"privately owned business" can pay minimum wage, treat their business as their

own fiefdom and have multiple time cards and do some underhanded things--that a

chain could never do.

Let these rich business owners (who dress down at every public meeting) pony up

and use some of their mad money to busy housing for their employees."

 

You correctly say "some" referring to these business owners.  But, how many is

some?  Do you really believe that there are major problems of illegal employee

stuff going on?  What do you know?  What is your definition of "rich" and who do

you mean when you call them out?  Be specific and open since you are unknown.

How did they get to own these "tremendous properties"?  Did they steal them? 

Did they buy them from a willing seller?  Just what is your problem with

success?  I agree that town should not subsidize business owners, but it is a

fine line that you have drawn here.

 

10:44 am est 

Affordable Housing

 

The problem is that the more affordable housing we build in town, the more

voters that now live here want a hand out.  This group that just takes is

becoming the majority and THEY decide how the tax dollars are spent.  Seventy

percent of the tax revenue comes from home owners that cannot vote and the

Affordable Housing contingent gets to decide where their dollars are spent. 

Taxation without representation.  If all tax payers were allowed to vote, we

would see a different outcome.  The more Affordable Housing we build, the worse

the situation will become.

10:31 am est 

Sunday, January 11, 2015

Business Owners vs Taxpayers

BUSINESS OWNERS WANTS TAXPAYERS TO PAY FOR EMPLOYEES HOUSING

Here is the truth. All of these businesses need employees and some of these
businesses own tremendous properties including guest houses and regular homes as
well as their several businesses.

What they want is for the taxpayers to subsidize their housing. All of the
"privately owned business" can pay minimum wage, treat their business as their
own fiefdom and have multiple time cards and do some underhanded things--that a
chain could never do.

Let these rich business owners (who dress down at every public meeting) pony up
and use some of their mad money to busy housing for their employees.
9:22 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

AFFORDABLE HOUSING PENALIZES THE TAXPAYERS

The Affordable housing group wants every assest of the town directed towards
themselves. To Hell with these assets helping all of the residents.

Taxpayers be damned. The housing group wants the land and property that is town
owned. They want what could help all of the citizens.

No they want a hand out. They want landlords to lower their rent, to rent to
year round people instead of seasonal, they want our land sold or given to
developers--and the taxes go up and up and up.

It is time to say NO! No more handouts. No more subsidies. All of the these
housing forums so that people can live here year round working only part
time..and the taxpayers foot the bill.

Enough already. No More subsidies that bleed the taxpayers dry.
9:20 pm est 

Re: Je Suis Charlie!

JE SUIS CHARLIE! jE SUIS CHARLIE! JE SUIS CHRLIE!

OUI, 3.7 TIMES FOR EACH PERSON WHO MARCHED, FOR EACH PERSON WHO STOOD FOR
FREEDOM, FOR EACH PERSON GATHERED IN STRONG PROTEST OF THEIR DEATHS.

JE SUIS JUIF! JE SUIS PARISIEN! JE SUIS LA FRANCE1
6:17 pm est 

My Sympathies

Provincetown got too pricey...so I moved to the 'burbs.  Working 3
jobs got too exhausting...so I got one job, worked hard and passed my pee test
so I was promoted to full time year round.  I have a stable homelife and job.  I
don't have anyone subsidizing me anymore, no more foodstamps or heat assistance. 
I earn my own way, it can be done on the outer cape, I am proof. I loved P-Town
in the "good olde days"...but now I'm a grown up.  Year round jobs are never
coming to Provincetown, it's time to face facts. My sympathies for the 
taxpayers of Provincetown.
6:13 pm est 

Enough of the Affordable Housing Talk

Take a break. We need jobs not simply housing and we will not get more jobs but
less. We are now surely a seasonal tourist town and that is reality.

I am more than tired of constant discussions on affordable housing as if--yes,
as if--this town hasn't already created more affordable housing units that other
towns around here. Did everyone forget about 90 Shankpainter and all the
affordable housing units there? And what about the Bates motel? And what about
ted Malone and the affordable housing behind Mac's? and what about the Ted
Malone houses he received so much CPA funds for?

We have funded more affordable housing and  we need another focus for this town.
1:15 pm est 

Re: Economic Facts
 
If you're going to use the word "fact" in your heading, use facts and correct
information. There is no such thing as a seasonal taxpayer. All property owners
pay taxes yearly for the full year. Perhaps the term "second home owners" would
apply to what you're thinking? I would hope that's what you meant or else your
logic is meaningless and useless.

A split tax rate is common in places where industry and commerce are big,
allowing the residents to ride easier on the backs of consumerism (sorry, bad
word to some in here). A split tax rate has also been used in some communities
to put more of the burden on second home owners, again allowing the year round
residents an easier ride considering the second home owners are thought to be
more wealthy (myth).

It's been tried in some towns on the cape, Brewster was most recent, and the residents
don't like it. Bottom line, can't afford to live here or own here? Move or rent. Renters
don't pay property taxes although I'm sure a portion of the rent goes toward the owners
tax bill. Still better than paying the mortgage AND the taxes, no? And of course, if the
taxes are split and the second home owners have a larger bill, guess who actually pays
for the rise? That's right, the renters that go to town meeting and voted the new rule into
law. A bit suicidal, no?
10:59 am est 

Re: Health Agent

Are septic systems still being installed? I thought everyone had to hook to the
sewer eventually.
10:55 am est 

Saturday, January 10, 2015

Re; Affordable Housing

ATTENTION REGARDING FREE GIVEAWAY COTTAGES

There is a lot of excitement on a facebook page regarding seven cottages on the
"mainland" that are being given away to anyone who can take.

Of course some people in town want to jump on it and somehow bring them here to
be plopped on some land to become affordable housing

Before the taxpayers are asked to buy these, please read about the laws now in
effect for housing here on the Lower Cape.

When it comes to residential construction, FEMA regulations always supersede
local zoning. This means that the government decides how we build homes in each
area of the country. Parts of lower Cape Cod have been designated as the worst
wind zone in the Northeast. Dubbed the North Zone, storms in this area can be so
severe that Douglas Cutler A.I.A., founder of Modular Architecture, had to
design his vacation home as a fortress, able to resist winds of up to 120 mph.
9:34 pm est 

Re: Jeff Jaran v Town of Provincetown

"Of course they testified on Jeff Jaran's behalf. The
report was flawed and biased. I called Frank Rudewicz myself with damning and
what I would interpret as important information that would not have served well
for Jeff Jaran"



I suspect that you may hope that this Bs will be believed by us.  They would not
testify unless required to do so, otherwise their reputation and future income
goes down the drain.  They were subpoenaed and would have no choice.  And, on
top of that malarkey you expect to be believe that you are an insider that tried
to be the good citizen.  But, as we know from so many posts here it is so easy
to spout Bs without tour name being signed.

So, no we don't believe a word.
9:09 pm est 

Re: Health Agent

"How is it that Provincetown continues to utilize a non-certified?
Health Officer to oversee its Health Department. Do what ever it takes to
achieve certification. Get certified or get off!"
                                      

What is the consequence of the lack of certification?  How does it matter?
9:07 pm est 

Re: Economic Facts

This quote from an earlier post is worth repeating.

"News flash .... The reason most citizens left town previously
Is that they couldn't afford it !"
9:04 pm est 

Re: Health Agent

Seems Dan Hoort Can do it all--so Let Him Inspect Septic Systems

His our all around guy, someone who knows it all. so put him in charge!
9:02 pm est 

Re: Jeff Jaran v Town of Provincetown

Marcuum Report-

Of course they testified on Jeff Jaran's behalf. The
report was flawed and biased. I called Frank Rudewicz myself with damning and
what I would interpret as important information that would not have served well
for Jeff Jaran. Frank was cordial and gave me typical rhetoric. Never asked in
depth questions of me and it was never published in the report.This was of a
very serious nature and I was astounded it never made it to the report. So I can
tell you the report was baised from the beginning and was obviously set up to
shed the best light possible on Jeff Jaran, and our former Town Manager, Sharon
. As far as I am concerned it was a bunch of  garbage. It no where came close to
depicting the truth about the corruption in this town at that time.
1:47 pm est 

Health Agent


How is it that Provincetown continues to utilize a non-certified?
Health Officer to oversee its Health Department. Do what ever it takes to
achieve certification. Get certified or get off!

How are current Title -5 applications being processed? We don't want to go
backwards. We have come too far. No more special blind -eyed arrangements.

Let's not ignore the facts.

10:59 am est 

Re: Jeff Jaran v Town of Provincetown

Let me get this straight  You heard that Jeff Jaran called the
investigator of the Marcum Report as HIS witness? .  .  .


If this is true it would not be surprising.  The town (BOS, FinCom, TM) has a
pattern of paying very good money for surveys and studies and then ignoring them
if they don't match their preconceived thoughts.
10:47 am est 

Re: Economic Facts
 
Yes,it's a simplistic idea to charge different tax rates for
Seasonal or  full season taxpayers,but that doesn't mean
It would not work.
News flash .... The reason most citizens left town previously
Is that they couldn't afford it !
10:46 am est 

Friday, January 9, 2015

Re: Economic Facts

Greed in Provincetown? What greed? Where have you been for the last
sixty years?
10:59 pm est 

Je Suis Charlie

Yes, Je Suis Charlie

Thanks for this blog. thanks for the words that can be posted, the words that
can be read, the words that can  help understand our town.

Je Suis Charlie!
10:58 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

"Simone Le Gries."


So Uncle Tom's cabin was french? And Simon Legree was just a translation?
10:56 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

ANTI PROPERTY OWNER IS THE TENOR OF THE TOWN

People who worked hard, who were able to own a piece of property have been
denigrated by the town in their housing meetings and these are taxpayers who pay
for the running of the town.

Of course I blame the housing people and the selectmen who stir this
rhetoric--it has been going on for years.

The mind set in this town is that the renters are all put upon and crushed under
the heels of the property owners.

The renters are all St. Teresas who came here and worked and now, years later,
can't afford what they didn't buy when they had the chance or they came here
knowing the cost of living and dived into this summer resort
no-winter-job-economy anyway to be one of the party people. Now, years later the
years have caught up with them and Now they are the down trodden put-upons while
all of the landlords are all Simone Le Gries.
5:46 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

The Search Committee for the new director at the Library chooses the
candidates to present to the Trustee, and the acting town managers does the
hiring, he makes the decision, that's the procedure in place.

Seems strange but doesn't it all seem strange, starting with the hiring of the
last director.
5:41 pm est 

Re: Jeff Jaran v Town of Provincetown

"The Town should Sue Kopelman & Paige for Allowing Jeff Jaran's
contract to be Formulated

They are at fault. Legally, they should have protected the town and taxpayers.
How could the law firm ok this awful contract? We should sue them now or even
better: fire the law firm."



My guess is that you are neither a lawyer nor have you ever been involved with
writing a contract.  The lawyers did NOT allow the contract to be formulated. 
The lawyers have zero authority in town.  They can only give advice.  It was the
TM and BOS that approved and signed the contract. The lawyers did what they were
asked to do and my contacts have indicated that Jaran's contract is very common. 
Governments are not dealing with their personal money and they (the TM and BOS)
would probably never enter into a similar contract on a personal basis with an
employee.   So place the blame where it belongs.  The TM and BOS had plenty of
opportunities to clarify and correct any terms they didn't understand or like. 
Ultimately you can blame voters for not electing better people.  Just look at
the dopes in many elected offices.( how about the senator in charge of the
environmental committee.  He says climate change is a fraud.  He was elected
legally.
1:46 pm est 

Re: Economic Facts

"Greed is now in ptown ,they took the housing, Raised rents, and
changed the town. My suggestion is to tax any seasonal home or condo at a higher
rate Than a citizen who rents 12 months a year,and a tax break to all Citizens
who live in ptown all year."


You say that a poster at last gets it right, but I don't "get" the above. 
First, no one "took" the housing.  It was all sold and paid for.  The sellers
were usually year-rounders that wanted some sort of change.  Second, I need to
hear a reason for your suggestion of having "seasonal" homes and condos taxed at
a different rate.  Why?  Do those folks owe us anything?  If you think they do,
what is it?  What do you know about the financial abilities of all these
seasonal people?  I am retired but have a very nice income and assets.  Why
should my next door neighbor who is here part time,pay part of my taxes.  In
this case, I am much better off than she is. You talked about greed but then
proceed to want to take from others because of some idle imagining that they can
and should give you money.  Should there be some sort of means test to determine
tax rates?  What would this do to the town?  I/m not very sure that you and
others have thought this through very well.  it seems like a simplistic response to a
very complex situation.
1:33 pm est 

Economic Facts

At last a poster who gets it right.
The lights go out in ptown after labor day, walk the beach after sept.
And you'll see total darkness in the million dollar homes,walk the
West end and it's a no mans land with all the cookie cutter condos
Dark as well. Greed is now in ptown ,they took the housing,
Raised rents, and changed the town.
My suggestion is to tax any seasonal home or condo at a higher rate
Than a citizen who rents 12 months a year,and a tax break to all
Citizens who live in ptown all year. This money can then be used
For housing only for the yearly population.
12:32 pm est 

Re: Jeff Jaran v Town of Provincetown

The Town should Sue Kopelman & Paige for Allowing Jeff Jaran's
contract to be Formulated

They are at fault. Legally, they should have protected the town and taxpayers.
How could the law firm ok this awful contract? We should sue them now or even
better: fire the law firm.

Look at the problems they have caused all of us.
12:30 pm est 

Re: Jeff Jaran v Town of Provincetown

IRATE OVER JARRAN

Why in the world are you getting all worked up over this Jaran situation? You
can't control it, it has nothing to do with your personally I presume.

IF this is how you want to live your life--then consider getting a new
perspective. I would assume that anyone in his poisition would do all that he or
she could to strategize and get the best possible outcome.

Each side is trying to win. I wish that this was the only troubles in my
life--wondering about this outcome. My friend's bout with cancer, some recent
deaths--and you have the Jaran arbitration to concentrate on--good for you.
12:23 pm est 

Re: Jeff Jaran v Town of Provincetown

"I heard that the town did not call the investigator as their witness.
I heard Jaran called the guy. To make it crazier, the town had to pay the
investigator to testify on Jaran's behalf thanks to the contract the BOS signed
with the guy.  If this is true, what does that tell you. What a colossal waste
of tax payer's money."



You "heard"?  Where?  c'mon, tell us so we can evaluate the source of what you
"heard".  I heard that the world was going to end next week.  Do you believe it?
12:21 pm est 

Re: Jeff Jaran v Town of Provincetown

I, for one, hope he gets his job back.

He was good for business.

Signed: Sam the bartender
12:01 am est 

Thursday, January 8, 2015

Re: Jeff Jaran v Town of Provincetown

Let me get this straight  You heard that Jeff Jaran called the
investigator of the Marcum Report as HIS witness? You also heard that the town
(which REALLY means US TAXPAYERS) had to PAY Marcum to testify FOR the chief?
Can anyone else please verify this? This sounds crazy.  What the Hell then is
Borg talking about in his Banner article then? Isn't this information IF true
the REAL news? WTF WTF WTF WTF
10:37 pm est 

Silly Obsession

"Express Yourself, Shout Out Here!
Your comments will be published in our Shout Out! Blog.
Read what your fellow citizens are saying in  Shout Out!"


From the home page.  So why do you select who should express themselves?  Why
not publish comments as you say or 'are some more equal than others"?
tell us all why you won't post comments about the silly obsession with nagle?
8:00 pm est 

Re: Je Suis Charlie

Yes, Yes, Yes

Je Suis Charlie! Je Suis Charlie! Je Suis Charlie!

We are one in sympathy with his work and his daring and his fearlessness.

We are one with those who fight for freedom and we are one with those who give
their lives for their words and creativity.

Je Suis Charlie!
7:57 pm est 

I looked in the Backyard

And there was a large photo of Sharon Lynn: problem of and for the town. Yes,
her legacy is flawed and problematic and we are left with her financial residues
and people she hired residue.

This is like saying that George bush has left America with so many problems and
with two wars that should not have been fought. His horrendous legacy continues.

In fact, that is what a legacy is---what remains after you've left.
7:55 pm est 

Re: Why do We need New Compensation Guidelines

"We do not need to give town employees raises each and every year nor
cost of living."



Here we go. Have you learned nothing with the exodus of town employees over the
last 14 months? Stop your negative focus on people who have to work to make a
living.

What's your problem? Interest on your investments not enough for you...or
scraping by on your savings? Then maybe YOU should move to a location best
suited for your income. Cheapskate.
7:52 pm est 

Re: Jeff Jaran v Town of Provncetown

I heard that the town did not call the investigator as their witness.
I heard Jaran called the guy. To make it crazier, the town had to pay the
investigator to testify on Jaran's behalf thanks to the contract the BOS signed
with the guy.  If this is true, what does that tell you. What a colossal waste
of tax payer's money.
7:49 pm est 

Re: Jeff Jaran v Town of Provncetown


Hearings conclude on police chief’s termination appeal

Final briefs due Feb. 18, with decision expected in April


By Erik Borg

Banner Correspondent


PROVINCETOWN — The arbitration hearings regarding the firing of former police chief Jeff Jaran have concluded, setting the stage for a final decision on his wrongful termination claim as early as April.

The final hearing in a series of three closed-door meetings took place on Dec. 16, in which town counsel and Jaran’s attorney took turns arguing their cases and presenting supporting witness testimonies to a panel of three arbiters.

Both sides will now have until Feb. 18 to present their final briefs to the panel. The arbiters will then review the briefs and publish a final decision within another 45 to 60 days. Under the timeline, the suit likely will be resolved no sooner than early April.

Jaran’s attorneys are arguing that the former chief was wrongfully terminated last December and are seeking his immediate reinstatement to the post along with full back-pay for work time lost and reimbursement of attorney’s fees.

Jaran had an annual salary of $134,000 at the time of his termination, meaning full pay could amount to more than $175,000, if granted.

Town counsel Darren Klein, of Kopelman & Paige, declined to comment on the details of the case, but reiterated that the town maintains that Jaran’s termination was carried out justly and with ample cause.

“It doesn’t mean he’s entitled to his job or lost wages even if he does prevail,” he added.

Jaran’s attorney, Andrew Gambaccini, could not be reached for comment.

The selectmen fired Jaran on Dec. 11, 2013, following a series of controversies related to his professional and off-duty conduct.

Several months prior to his termination, he was alleged to have made an angry outburst at The Squealing Pig pub after an NWA rap song containing antipolice lyrics played over the bar’s speaker system.

The local police union also accused him of using his influence to get police department staff members to vote for former selectman Austin Knight and of distributing Knight’s campaign signs from the police station in the lead-up to the May elections. The town commissioned an independent investigation to look into the complaints, among others, late last year.

The report, authored by Frank Rudewicz of Marcum LLP, found that Jaran violated state and local laws by campaigning for Knight inside the department and that his actions surrounding The Squealing Pig incident were intimidating to the public.

In light of the report, the selectmen voted to terminate Jaran’s contract with three years remaining on his five-year contract.

A termination appeal clause is commonplace in the contract of any Massachusetts police chief, but the three-member panel is “unusual,” Klein said.

Jaran entered into the unique contract under the leadership of former town manager Sharon Lynn.

The three arbitrators are Bernie Lynch, retired city manager of Lowell; Jeffrey Roy, former Orleans police chief; and Rich Boynlanger, a professional arbitrator. Lynch was selected for the panel by the town and Roy was selected by Jaran’s counsel. Boylanger is considered a neutral selection agreed upon by both parties.

5:17 pm est 

Re: Je Suis Charlie

I wish You could Post some of Charles Hebdo's Caricatures

can you? they are so powerful and the message must continue. We cannot be
silenced. We cannot give up our rights to speak, to write to protest, to draw.
The pen is mighty, the pencil must move, the typewriters must click, the
keyboards must be active. this outrage must not stop any of else with a voice,
with a brain, with intelligence.
4:47 pm est 

Affordable Housing

ECONOMIC FACTS

A landlord can rent out a two bedroom apt for $1,400.00, heat included and make
$16,800.00 a year. Or, a landlord can rent it out for two months and make
$24,000.00. (And then close it down or get a winter rent to help cover taxes,
water etc).

Which would you do? This is the situation regarding rentals.
4:43 pm est 

Zoning Board

The Meeting Agenda posted on the town website for December 18, 2014 in the
opening statement to let the public know what day and time the meeting is says
its for December 4, 2014.  Was this meeting actually for December 18 or December
4?
4:42 pm est 

Je Suis Charlie

Je Suis Charlie!    Je suis Charlie!

Je suis Charlie!    Je suis Charlie!

Let the pen be stronger and the point be sharp and let the ideas and the voices
of a free press rise high.

Je Suis Charlie!  Je suis Charlie!
4:41 pm est 

Re: Leadership

"Sharon was determined to get rid of all town employees she
did not hire..."



Lordy, are you STILL blaming Sharon Lynn for the problems of Provincetown? Look
in your own backyard already. It's pretty clear where the buck stops now, don't
you think?
4:39 pm est 

Why do We need New Compensation Guidelines

We do not need to give town employees raises each and every year nor cost of living.
We need to live within our town means and this does not mean paying the highest
for not the brightest. Our brightest have left--and this does not include Sharon
Lynn and Jeff Jaran.

We are a town caught in spending beyond our means and wanting more and more each
year. The selectmen need to be more realistic and take their cue from the
finance committee that seems like one body in this town that wants to cap
outrageous spending.
4:37 pm est 

Wednesday, January 7, 2015

Re: Affordable Housing

MOVERS AND SHAKERS

Remember all of the hooopla burning up the electronic meida sources all about
the housing and building the housing and the Virtuous circle group and the other
groups..and the beat goes on.

Province Landing, fifteen years in the making. Stable Path--even longer..and
now...the beat goes on and on and on.

From Storage containers to tiny houses--but where are the jobs? Where is the
land? Year after year after Year after Year.

So many people in a constant state of anxiety over their housing. Is this the
way to live? Is this the way to bring up your Children so that their whole life
is centered around your anxiety for subsidized housing?

What a way to live your lives--going on how many years now? Some of the kids
have grown up and moved away--and you are still waiting and demanding and
sweating waiting and waiting and waiting in summer resort town for your
subsidized affordable year round housing--with no year round jobs.
11:25 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

ELECTRIC HEAT AT PROVINCE LANDING

Wind Chill Factor--it feels like the temperature is in single digits outside.
That is what your electrical heating system thinks too.

It is interesting to find out the annual cost of renting at Province Landing
over the year versus renting a year round apartment with heat included.

Heard all of these subsidized apartments are built on the cheap and that means
that they all have electric heat.

Whoa Nelly! once you get your electric heating bills this winter.
11:17 am est 

Social Networking

Candace Nagel has just taken over the Beacon in her own name.
12:57 am est 

PTV

Why Was the Live Streaming Stopped at 7p.m.??

To see Planning with no one person there? Why? Who is directing this sense of
this town?
12:56 am est 

Housing Sales

MORE MULTI-FAMILY HOMES WILL BE FOR SALE

In the Fall, people were talking about all of the people losing apartments
because the house went on the Market

I predict that more people will be selling their homes as this talk escalates
about restrictions of multi-family homes and condo conversions etc.
12:54 am est 

Tuesday, January 6, 2015

Re: Leadership

Yes, Jane Evans Was Pushed Out So Brian Carlson could take Over Her
Position as Well

She was hard working and knew what she was doing. But they did not like her. She
was part of the "old" administration and not part of the "new" --meaning Sharon
Lynn-- hiring. and Sharon was determined to get rid of all town employees she
did not hire. that is a wicked attitude and not one a town manager should have.
You get the team that is in place and you work with them. but not Lynn. she
worked to fire those she had not personally hired. she was taken with Brian
Carlson. He could do not wrong. Why? Because she thought and believed he was so
handsome, so good-looking. Great qualities for promotion, right? How you look.
11:28 am est 

Re: Leadership

So right and she was so Wrong

We are left with residues of her term as town manager and it is not good for
this town. glad that Rehobeth Beach wanted her and she got her but out of her to
save the remnants of her reputation. and then there is Jeff Jaran and his  ugly
legacy and we still are not done with him.
11:18 am est 

Town Manager

"The agenda for Thursday's meetings includes discussing both the job
description and qualifications for the future town manager."

That line was taken from the local newspaper reporting that the selectmen will
NOW vote on the job description and qualifications for the NEW search process.
What the hell did they use before for the first process????? What changed???
11:14 am est 

Provincetown Public Library

A number of people have been commenting on a recent letter sent out by
the Library Trustees which opened with the statement "300,000 people used the
library last year". That would average out to over 800 people a day for 365 days
!Where did they get such a figure? Did they count people passing in front of the
library? People who came in only to use the bathroom?  If that figure is so
distorted, you have to question any other information sent to the Library
Association that designated our little library as " the best small library in
the country"Were the trustees trying to justify putting someone in charge of the
library who had no experience or knowledge of how to run a library.Since they
appear to no longer be looking for a new director, perhaps they think all is
well and we don't need a competent director.If so, perhaps what we need are new
trustees.
11:10 am est 

Monday, January 5, 2015

Leadership

Leadership starts at the top. Without solid leadership what you have is a
sinking ship. That's what is happening to our town. We hired a TM that had her
own agenda and one that was not in the best interest of our town. As a result of
that, several dedicated long-time employees left and a few were fired
unnecessarily and without proper protocol. Take Jane Evans, she knew her job
well and her replacement did not yet the TM fired her over a very trivial matter
putting her replacement in that position. Well, now he's gone too! So, now whose
the (CERTIFED)Health Agent with the proper credentials?
2:48 pm est 

Re: Civilian Police Academy

I hope that members of the community take advantage of the Civilian
Police Academy being offered this month. I took the class in the Spring and
cannot recommend it enough. Truly time well spent.
Mary-Jo Avellar
12:10 pm est 

Abandoning Electronic Media

Last year there were a number of people who gave thoughtful, serious responses
to other people's demands such as the demand for housing

They countered with the need for jobs etc etc...where are they now? they have
abandoned the electronic media outlets.

Remember the virtuous circle and all of that? Remember the comments from other
people? They don't see the point anymore.

Why make houses out of shipping containers or houseboats or over the high school
parking lot--why not just create a trailer park at the Jerome street parking lot
and other places in town--they are the same thing.
10:14 am est 

Re: Town Employees

Many Were Plain Disgusted With How They Were Treated

town Hall became toxic and I still blame Sharon Lynn for this atmosphere that
began to permeate town hall. In the beginning it was all smiles but soon, her
true self emerged. and it was not good. she was quite destructive to and for the
this town and we are continuing to feel the effects. Many who worked at town
hall felt unappreciated, fearful, and upset with how the town was being managed.
They left and we loss so many talented people. It will be years before we ever
get such a group back. all these years of experience gone!
1:35 am est 

Re: Town Employees

The Face in the Mirror is Sharon Lynn.

And Behind her, a shadow that reappears is Jeff Jaran.  They are
the key to people leaving and to those they hired and how poorly they mismanaged
this town.
1:33 am est 

Sunday, January 4, 2015

These and Even More

How sad. We have lost so many good people. but what is this town really doing?
Nothing. They are like deer in the headlights.

Come on town people. Do something and do it now. Will you have to lose the
entire town and everything before you speak out. Dam it! get some balls and step
forward for your town. Fight for it before it is too late!
9:21 pm est 

Re: Town Employees

Haha.  What a joke.  If you want to look to why these people left,
most of the posters on here including the webmaster can just look in the mirror.
9:20 pm est 

Jeff Jaran

Any news on Jeff Jaran?  Hope he gets what he deserves.We need to move
on-without him.
9:18 pm est 

Re: Town Employees

Add to that List Others

Paul Gavin as Assessor
Barry in Treasurer's Office
Linda OBrien as Treasurer
Ellen Bagliatini Licensing for Electrical, Plumbing
Darlene Flores Licensing for electrical, Plumbing

We did lose some wonderful and dedicated people. many now in these positions
have little knowledge of past practices or procedures or  the town itself. all
the years of experience gone.

You can look back to Sharon Lynn and the problems she initiated and the Jeff
jaran mess that is still brewing.

1:10 pm est 

Saturday, January 3, 2015

Re: Town Employees

Russ Braun
Maxine Notaro
Brian Carlson
Cheryl Duarte
Justin Post
Vernon Porter
TM
Tony Jackett
Police chief

Like them or not, they're all gone and the replacements aren't better. Gee, I
wonder why they all are jumping ship with others following? And who is it that's
leading the whole show? Oh, that's right, a gang of know nothings and do
nothings that take no blame and farm out every decision they were elected to
make. They had a recent meeting with a facilitator to find out what each member
wanted in a TM? Really? Shouldn't they have done that BEFORE they started the TM
search process the FIRST time? What a bungled mess.
7:04 pm est 

Changes

I think that Electronic media has had a big impact on the town. There are people
who used to post on facebook pages and here and they have become silent over the
last year.

There is no privacy anymore. What we have is shrillness and attacks. I will
won't go to town meeting anymore because if I take a position opposite of the
face book overseers--I would get lambasted.

I keep my own counsel. I won't respond anymore to what I read. When all of this
was new there were all kinds of subjects that were discussed.

For years it has been housing and jobs and the virtuous circle and this
cantilevered housing project and that tiny housing movement and housing built
out of storage containers and house boats and on the municipal parking lot and
the high school building and now Jerome street etc etc it is just a stable
merry-go-round. year after year after year. All movement in the same spot.
2:25 pm est 

Well, From the Town to You!

Happy New Year to MYPACC and thanks for all the postings of 2014 and more and
more postings to come in 2015. You do help keep us informed of what happens
behind the scene.

I don't know how you do it but it is helpful in understanding Provincetown, even
if the revelations sometimes shock. We better understand what is happening
because of this blog.

Best wishes for 2015 MYPACC!
12:25 pm est 

Re: Town Employees

We Have Lost some fanatastic town employees

they cared deeply about the town and not what was in it for themselves. Maxine
was great and Cheryl too. they cared about the projects and helping people get
them done and cared about issues people had. Now, it is new faces with so little
knowledge. It is sad. Tony jacket also cared and did an amazing job here. They
are irreplaceable and are missed, sorely missed
11:33 am est 

Re: Town Employees

Truthfully all the Town Employees who performed services for the
public which went beyond their duties,have all left over the years & again
recently with people like Duarte & Notaro! It leaves a void since there's no
connection now with new people that come in to work. It's just a job! The Town
Planner came in with large ideas for major changes too soon that aren't
acceptable here by trying to micromanage Regulatory Bds., rather than letting
the Chairman & Committees of those Bds. do their jobs! When she got a sense of
defeat she applied to other Cape vacancies including Wellfleet! She wasn't
considered for an interview this time,but is obviously looking around to stay on
Cape with her significant other who is a Selectman here! Common knowledge!
10:19 am est 

Friday, January 2, 2015

Town Employees

Some town employees needed to go and some didn't but they left anyway because
they were disgusted with changes that were not in the best interest of the
public. How do I know this, because quite a few months ago I went into to town
hall to get information about my property taxes. There was a note posted on the
counter that said they had ten days to produce information. Thank heavens Mrs.
Duarte was still there because she looked up the information for me on her
computer. It took her all of five minutes, if that. This is not bigs city hall,
this is little old provincetown where we help each other and are user friendly
11:42 pm est 

That's Weird!

I don't think Gloria McPherson was attacked when she came here. she was not nice
to Maxine Notaro and soon Maxine was gone. but I did not see people attacking
Gloria. what happened was more Gloria McPherson and Mark Weinress and their odd
attempts to create new zoning By-Laws and enforce what should have been
unenforceable.

No one was against her when she was first here but she did take some strange
steps that irritated and angered people in town and along Shankpainter road.
8:47 pm est 

Re: Gloria McPherson - Town Planner

"Our town planner applied for assistant town manager in Wellfleet?
Really?"


Why is it surprising that a town employee, harassed before she even set foot
here, would want to get out of the toxic environment of Provincetown?

You must have noticed how many employees have retired, re-located or simply ran
like hell, leaving precious full time jobs. And I fear we'll be looking for a
Town Manager for a long, long time.

Any professional worth their salt can pick up on the nasty vibe here. This isn't
a paradise...it's a prison.
8:02 pm est 

Glad That People are Here For This Weekend
 
Nice to see people on the street and people inside restaurants. Let's hope it is
a good year for businesses in Provincetown.
8:01 pm est 

Sad to Hear about Mario Cuomo

He was a voice of liberalism and a voice for the people. He cared and was not a
fabricated character like so many now are. He was real and he was committed.

Would like to see more like him in office.
7:59 pm est 

Gloria McPherson - Town Planner
 
Oh, really!

Our town planner applied for assistant town manager in Wellfleet? Really? Is
this true? Well, she may still have a chance because I don't think Brian Carlson
will last that long there. He is more a behind-the-scene type of guy, not
upfront forceful and articulate.

so, Gloria, may have a second chance to move to Wellfleet.
1:06 pm est 

Re: To The Selectmen: Start the Process

I Agree!

We need, first and foremost, a new town manager and we need one very soon. It
baffles me too about what is slowly down this process. someone needs to goose
these elected officials into action. what is so fundamentally difficult about
hiring a town manager? what is wrong with this group of five? someone, even one,
should get going and get us a town manager.
1:03 pm est 

Re: Affordablel Housing

"Here we go again............ If you can't afford ptown, move is the
Response! We never had this problem till the rich elite arrived. And it's been
downhill since there arrival."



WRONG!! This town never had this problem 'til the town's ECONOMIC BASE (the
fishing industry) COLLAPSED. You can blame "the rich elite" all you want, but
you're missing the real reason and just scapegoating. If townspeople didn't
sell, the "rich elite" wouldn't have had anything to buy. And townspeople
started selling because the jobs started leaving once fishing was decimated.
Without a strong job sector, why would anyone have stayed here? What don't
poeople understand about that?!?
12:54 pm est 

Downward Slope

DOWN HILL SINCE DRUGGIES ARRIVED

Sorry-but it isn't the elite who live life accomplishing their goals, living
life enhancing lives that enrich the town and bring it prestige through their
hard work volunteering or adding to our culture or infrasture of the town or
running it properly.

No, it is the people who come here and are a drain on us, who damage property
like one individual who rented a place, trashed it and damaged it and then left
it in ruin.

Oh, and his friends stole a tv from another apt etc..He and the friends he had
here have written letters to the editor complaining about the lack of housing.

Two finally left owing over a couple of thousand dollars in rent. However, we
aren't doing anything due to fear of retaliation.

yes, the police were there numerous times. yet these folks are still in town.

Go back a couple of years and read who was arrested for drugs etc. etc. and you
will see their names.

Who wants to spend a winter with a population of malcontents who complain about
their lives, their lack of money, their lack of housing and are seething is
discontent over the accomplishments and the money earned by others.


This is the current life in a segment of our Population.
12:51 pm est 

Louise R Silver - Posted in Provincetown Voters
 10:39am Jan 2
Zoning amendments will make accessible land for small homes to be built on - both on town and privately owned land. What is the process to find out what zoning laws need to be amended? Will these amendments need to be put on Spring Town Warrant? When will we have list of town owned land parcels that tiny homes can potentially be built on available to the public? Some of these parcels may need to be on Spring Town Warrant as well. Action by BoS and other appropriate Boards needs to happen ASAP - yesterday so small homes can be built to Increase Community Housing!

"Creating affordable rental housing in a community is often a long and arduous process. One strategy cities can use to combat this is allowing the creation of Accessory Dwelling Units (ADUs) through amended zoning codes. ADUs, also known as “granny flats,” are small apartments built on a property with a preexisting home as the primary structure. Units typically function as studio apartments and tend to accommodate one or two people. ADUs can allow for seniors to age in place, provide homeowners with extra rental income, and fill a gap in affordable rental units.
http://www.smartgrowthamerica.org/2014/12/12/using-accessory-dwelling-units-to-bolster-affordable-housing/
10:54 am est 

To The Selectmen: Start the Process

Enough of consultant game playing. Please, it's time to hire a new town manager.
What in the world are you waiting for? an answer to drop like an old TV's show's
duck with the answer. I can give you the answer and so can many in town.
Intelligent. Committed. Dedicated. Professional. Team player.

Keep this up and we'll hire another consultant to find out what qualities we
want in a selectmen!
10:51 am est 

Re: Affordablel Housing

Here we go again............ If you can't afford ptown, move is the
Response! We never had this problem till the rich elite arrived
And it's been downhill since there arrival.
8:53 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

Who is the "province landing spokesperson?' what a pointless post,
unfortunate so many housing post are.
8:51 am est 

Thursday, January 1, 2015

Re: Affordable Housing

Affordable Housing concern.....

if the writers concern is that there is no where to live if you are a waiter or
a rest. employee, then the answer is DONT LIVE HERE.
We all dont get to live where we want to.  There are plenty of places I would
like to live, Beacon Hill, Charlestown, etc, but I cant afford to, so I live in
Somerville!  I save every penny I have because that is my priority, to spend
time in Provincetown!  Living here is a privilege, not a right, no matter who
you are.  NO full time, full year jobs is the reality so that means most of the
help is also temp. Either employers offer options for housing as part of the
benefits, or you commute, live in Eastham, or Orleans.  I drive 21 miles to work
every day, get used to it. These folks who think the town should build them
affordable units are living in a dream.
11:05 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

SAD SITUATIONS

How sad that people who are choosing to stay in this town without the means to
support themselves. As they age their situation becomes such a hardship. It is
truly so sad.

Ask the spokesman for Province Landing what the situation is there--there is
rent that people have to be able to afford to pay.

Living here isn't a give-a-way.

It is just sad that people have stayed in town beyond their ability to support
themselves here.
10:01 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing - ted Malone

Re: "his only burden"


And your only burden is your bitterness and jealousy.  So sorry you can't seem
to get past those emotions to something more worthwhile.
9:39 pm est 

Affordasble Housing - Ted Malone

TED MALONE INDUSTRY-MEA CULPA-MY BLUNDER there is no burden.

What a wallop of a mistake I made saying burden. Of course this isn't a burden.
His affordable housing institution is the goose that lays the golden egg.

His low income housing units have deeds that last only a number of years and
then they are rented at market value. Then he goes and creates more and when
these age out of the low income bracket--he then builds even more units.

THEN MORE UNITS. What an industry he has created. He is the affordable housing
king. The whole broad sweep of developments are his babies. Each pays him rent
month after month after month.

Every single unit he owns. Imagine getting the rents at the first of each month
from the many housing DEVELOPMENTS he owns.

His only burden is the heavy, bundle of checks made out to him that he carries
to the bank every month. Mea culpa, mea culpa MEA CULPA.
4:54 pm est 

Wellfleet Turned Her Down

The word is out that the Provincetown Town Planner, Gloria McPherson, 
placed her hat in  the ring for Welfleet Assistant Town Manager. Lo and behold
she was not even called in for an interview.

What's new? They come in dumping their load and leave....same as it ever was.
She will not be missed, when she goes and one way or the other she will go!
4:52 pm est 

Let' Get on With the Search For Town Manager

This is getting almost ridiculous. If we don't know what we want and need by
now, it is infantile. You don't want a repeat of what we had before with Sharon
Lynn and thus ask for resumes, interview and hire. Let's move on this. enough
talking and game playing.
4:42 pm est 

Happy New Year to the Admins of Mypacc.

This website does not operate on it's own, it has a lot of human interaction.
Thank you Clarence,for providing a place for everyone to post their opinion
without fear of retribution

We look forward to more community involvement in the coming year. Thanks for all
the time and dedication the team has given the community in 2014!

Vince Currier
4:40 pm est 

Chikugunya Virus

The chikungunya virus may have a funny-sounding name, but its nothing to laugh
about. So far, all but four states in the U.S. have reported cases of
chikungunya  and the mosquito-borne viruss foothold will only increase in 2015,
says Weaver. As chikungunya spreads from the Caribbean to Central and South
America, I suspect the number of cases may increase, because the virus is going
to be circulating in a much larger area, with much larger populations, he says.
I think its inevitably going to spread up through Mexico to the U.S. border.

And trust us, this is one virus you definitely dont want to catch: Chikungunya
causes debilitating, arthritis-like pain that can last for years, says Weaver.

Right now, chikungunya  which has no known cure  is primarily transmitted
through the Aedes aegypti mosquito, found only in the southern United States.
However, another strain recently emerged in Brazil that may favor the Aedes
albopictus mosquito, which can survive further north in the temperate areas of
the U.S., says Weaver. It can survive cold winters. So if that strain is
imported in travelers, it could be a risk almost anywhere in the eastern half of
the U.S., where Aedes albopictus is present.
4:39 pm est 

Euro Workers

I feel it is wrong that Euro workers are forced to go door to door to
find housing. Is this the welcome to America that we are providing. Before
workers are sent to Provincetown the sponsors should be made to provide housing.
Anyone else agree?????
4:35 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

"That is who should build and rent to only Provincetown
residents..Don't put the burden on Ted Malone alone."


BURDEN!!! What BURDEN???? Let's be serious. Ted is doing this to make money and
he appears to be quite successful doing so. I would agree that many of his
projects have helped town residents but please, no one "put the burden" on him
and no one forces him him to continue developing. The choices he makes are his
and his alone! Sheesh.
4:32 pm est 


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