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Monday, March 31, 2014

Cow Poop and Pig Poop and Crow Poop

Seems there is more poop than substance on  some local blogs. Thread and threads
but for the real issues--distractions, self-interest and a lack of response to
key and fundamental issues. Like a soap opera that goes on and on.

Sorry but it seems like drivel. Glad this blog is here.

Real issues by real people.

9:47 pm edt 

Re: Fincom

"This frenzied attack on the character of Mr. Carlson
is a great example of a typical FinCom reaction to criticism.  He must be
destroyed, not simply acknowledged as someone who offered criticism..."


Brilliant post. It is evident that an organized campaign to discredit Mr.
Carlson has been initiated...as in..."let's bring down the bast*#d!" You can
almost hear the cackling and roar.

And anyone who's identity is clear on Facebook (save for a few who retain the
privilege of anonymity) dare not go against the hive.

I doubt that all of those after Brian, Sally, or whoever the targeted poster
child of the week is, have been hurt by Sharon. Rather, the attacks are brought
about by poisonous ego, the blind need for power and the desire to crush all who
think differently.

I have little respect for Mike C., having observed his mean spiritedness and
willingness to bring down anyone who dare oppose him. What a dreadful 'leader'.

And Clarence, thank you for posting comments that might be in opposition to your
viewpoint. We need that balance on Shout Out.

9:44 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

Those that are on FINCOM became part of the group as a result of the upcoming
police station. Look at the makeup and you'll see their main purpose. They have
morphed into a committee that people look to as if they were the end all of
anything that goes on in the town regarding finances. It's time to tell the
emperor he has no clothes!! FINCOM advises and recommends to town meeting what
direction the town should take financially. That's it, advises and recommends.
Town meeting can vote the exact opposite way if that's the way the town feels is
the right way. FINCOM can not support a new police station and town meeting can
vote yes. It's all up to the voters, not FINCOM. Where does it state that thier
recommendation must be followed? Who made them king? It's time to send them back
to where they came from and vote with our own minds and insight.
9:39 pm edt 

There is no Praise for Carlson

He is not honorable. He did not do a great service to the town. He was someone's
toddie and he alleged a violation of people sitting at George's Pizza. Maybe if
he was at his office more often, he wouldn't be at George's having a piece of
pizza. He is hardly there but that day, that moment, he just happened to be
there--Is life a fantasy? Is life a play held at the Provincetown theater? Can
Carlson just walk in and act out someone's lines. That is what happened and it
has nothing to do with ethics. Nothing to do with courage. It is a farce. A play
that has no plot but one contructed by perhaps           . Maybe       should
join the Board of Directors with Carlson.                 and the questionable 
             . they make a mockery of what good theater should be.
9:38 pm edt 

Truth and Reconciliation

We know of a few people out there but you would never get them to come forward.
We have mentioned it but they wont break silence.Talk about dedication!
9:33 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

Power? Finance committee?

somehow I don't believe this one iota. what power? they are not taken with power
and they do what they do for---yes, us. they do not blindly follow town manger
nor finance director nor anyone else in town. they follow what is best for us
the taxpayers. that is their mandate and they, in contrast to past committees,
take this seriously.
9:32 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

That is Pure bull

This is the most erudite finance committee, with so many members who have major
corporate experience. They know numbers and can't be fooled as other finance
committees were.

Your statement is pure bull. They are so impressive. You may have other issues
with them but dam it won't be due to qualifications and financial expertise.

I think this is what threatens those who are threatened. These members are not
fools and they are not taken with some one other's power. although, maybe Sean
P. Harrington seemed to be taken with himself. but I think he is gone. No tears
there. But they just don't care about positions and power. And for that I
applaud them.
9:30 pm edt 

Re: Truth and Reconciliation

"I have no idea who wrote that post. But I feel compelled to write, and
say that.

I have not read anything on SHOUT OUT  that spoke so honestly to my experience
of the last 7 years. Thank you to whoever wrote it. I don't expect we will have
a "commission". The people that need to get "some sympathy" still seem rather
entrenched to me
."



So true-been here 6 years myself-and a man who can defend himself but found
myself "lost" in the battle numerous times.
9:25 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

"I See No Benefit that Finance committee Members Get From Being On
this Committee Why are they attacked? Is anyone benefiting from being on this
committee? I see no gain for anyone. I see a lot of time being devoted to
numbers and a group that is beholding to us the taxpayers. We benefit from their
work. they surely do not. so why are they attacked so often? In the past, it was
from Austin Knight, then
Dan Hoort, now Brian Carlson. Why? Maybe someone knows but it is unclear to me
why them."


I think that part of our problem is a little confusion between criticism and
"attacks".  Attacks connotes an aggressive unwarranted action.  What Brian did
was use the mass. law to complain about a possible violation of the law.  Now,
as to gain by being on the FinCom, do you mean financial gain?  if so, you are
correct; there is no direct monetary gain to be had.  However, there are other
motivators in life such as the love of  power.  the lover of serving one's
community.  The love of the attention and recognition that is possible by being
involved in the news and chat sites.

I have a friend who has lived in a few places in the state and enjoys local
politics as an alternative to dog fighting.  He tells that same story of three
different places that he has had personal knowledge of the local scene. He says
that FinComs seem to attract people who dislike anything that will cost them
taxes and that they always want to have and exercise power that they do not
legally enjoy.  They get very, very defensive and will defend their views like a
mama bear with cubs.

So, monetary gain, no, emotional gains, definitely. Too much of the big fish in
the small pond syndrome.  This frenzied attack on the character of mr. Carlson
is a great example of a typical FinCom reaction to criticism.  He must be
destroyed, not simply acknowledged as someone who offered criticism , but as
someone who has cut to the marrow of their self worth and existence.  Some might
have shrugged and said, "gee, we meant no harm, this will all get explained at
the proper time."   But, no this required a full scale operation to destroy
anyone who could possibly have the nerve to question them.

So there you have it all at no charge for the expert opinion.
8:26 pm edt 

Re: Truth and Reconciliation

I have no idea who wrote that post. But I feel compelled to write, and say that
i have not read anything on SHOUT OUT  that spoke so honestly to my experience
of the last 7 years. Thank you to whoever wrote it. I don't expect we will have
a "commission". The people that need to get "some sympathy" still seem rather
entrenched to me.

I have never experienced a town "leader" that divided the Town so quickly into
those that were "on her team" and those that were not. It has been sad &
painful. I am one of many that are crossing my fingers and hoping that in just a
few months, our town will get back to being a lot more like it used to be. We
weren't perfect. But we weren't at war. And i for one, am glad people are
beginning to testify to what happened.

One of the targeted
8:23 pm edt 

Hello Neighbors and Friends,

I am writing to you about an unfair change to a building by-law. Last October,
during a special town meeting (which normally addresses only budget matters),
our Planning Board proposed a 2000 cubic yard excavation limit to any building
project. Excavation limits are very rare and there is none on the Cape. But it
gets worse: what was ultimately approved in the last minutes of the meeting was
a Draconian 750 cubic yard limit!

While the proposed 2000 cubic yard excavation limit was developed by a committee
which analyzed the impact and fairness of the proposal; the 750 cubic yard
amendment was proposed during the last moments of the meeting by a resident who
was prepared to do anything in his power to stop a house being built adjacent to
his property. He compared the volume of 2000 cubic yards to miles of
back-to-back dump trucks.  Then he said that reducing the limit to 750 would
still allow for three houses to be built. There was no chance to check any of
his false statements or evaluate the impact and fairness of his proposal. In
reality, a 750 cubic yard excavation would allow only one modest house with a
600-800 s.f. footprint. But these non-facts scared the few attendees left into
voting for it.

This 750 cu yd limit does not serve our town well as it devalues private
property by imposing such a severe building limitation. About 97% of buildable
land in Ptown has already been developed without such a restriction. This is not
fair to the remaining property owners and has no benefit for the town.

Any project that exceeds this limit will require a difficult and costly Planning
Board Review. And, if successful, the property owner receives an inferior
special building permit instead of a regular building permit. A special building
permit does not protect the property owner from law suits by any person opposed
to the project. So a special permit is too risky.

Lets correct this inequity by returning to the originally proposed 2000 cu yd
excavation limit at the April 7th town meeting.  Vote yes for Article 37
8:20 pm edt 

FinCom

".....so why are they attacked so often? In the past, it was from
Austin Knight, then Dan Hoort, now Brian Carlson. Why? Maybe someone knows but
it is unclear to me why them."



This finance committee is probably the least knowledgeable about the workings of
municipal finance this town had seen in years.  A number of people have tried to
help them out, but their paranoia or arrogance or whatever has prevented them
from listening.
6:55 pm edt 

Re: Work in Town!

"Why is it so hard for straight older people to find work in this
town?"



I got news for ya, it's hard for anyone to find work in this town, bunny.
6:52 pm edt 

Re: "Big House........"

We left our average house in ptown due to the way the town was being run.
I loved the town 20 years ago. We no longer love the town,it's now
Full of elitist liars.
6:50 pm edt 

Re: Truth and Reconciliation

While I appreciate the ideas expressed by the blogger regarding a
truth and reconciliation commission, do Sharon's past actions really compare to
human rights abuse and mass murder?

So it's the drama inherent in much of Provincetown's attempts to heal that makes
some scoff. That said, I don't really know of anyone so sorely abused by Sharon
but do believe it could have occurred. I've had my share of nasty bosses, female
and male.

How would such a revealing and release best take place
6:49 pm edt 

Health Agent Signs Own Permit

It's great that the acting town manager said no and called truro so at least we
know someone is minding the store for us but there is still the unresolved issue
of ethics.Not to say state ethics but what reprimands if any did happen. We will
never know.
6:46 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

About Brian's bedroom, before he got it and after he signed off on his
own application the acting town  manager said no and called the health agent in
Truro to review the application (I think this is standard procedure). That agent
found that all was in order and granted the bedroom. So now I wouldn't be
surprised if the mob in town called for the termination of the Truro health
agent. This is ridiculous! And many are going to cease executing their right to
petition a grievance... very sad.
5:08 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

It appears the library trustees have decided to make the library it's
second priority.  It's first priority is to protect and defend the library
director--no matter what. And that is no small task.
5:06 pm edt 

Truth and Reconciliation

Yes, this post contains references to the former town manager, but it
is not ultimately about her. It is about now.

All this fighting seemed to have started because of Sharon Lynn, the former town
manager. Many people loved her, but many people were her unfair targets and
were, frankly, abused by her abuse of power. Some of the townfolk who loved her
became her targets; she used that love to betray people for her own unexplicable
gains.

She caused good people to lose jobs, leave town, descend into depression, and to
feel betrayed by the town they love. It was excrutiating for these people to
hear from others that they were making up stories, had some personal vendetta,
were paranoid or crazy, or were simply wrong. Most of these people are still
hurting badly and are still hurting from the fighting.

Everything that comes after this is about that division. Sharon's fans want to
defend her and believe that mean and vengeful people ran her out of town and
they are still angry. Those that Sharon hurt are angry, some are hungry for the
community of friends they once knew, but MOST WANT ONLY TO BE BELIEVED.

All the hollering now about town staff seems to be as a result of this
unresolved feelings. Some want to punish Sharon's friends and abettors--the
latest is Brian Carlson--  and so they try to point out all the questionable
activities of these people so that they cannot hurt folks the way Sharon did.
(I'm not defending any of these people; I'm trying to just be factual.)

Can we try something?

Stop for a moment and have some sympathy for the people who have been hurt to
the bone by all this. They are, by and large, not the people making the noise.

Can we also stop and remember that it is difficult for some of Sharon's people
to believe that she would hurt people so callously? They believe that it can't
possibly be true. (Not all of them--some who believe in those tactics
rationalized their participation.

We need a "truth and reconciliation" commission. We need a public forum of some
kind where people can say, "this is what happened to me." Hurting people need to
be heard and need to know that people are listening and this is a new start.  It
worked in South Africa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_and_reconciliation_commission
5:01 pm edt 

Connecting the Dots

Im not much for posting and not a fan of blogging but I just read the connecting
the dots. What an interesting read while taking a late lunch break.very
interesting news.
4:27 pm edt 

"The Rest Nothing But Puppets"

My god, but some people listen to too much silly talk radio. "puppets"?  Just
because they don'yt agree with you?  Any possible chance that they truly have a
perfectly good motive for their beliefs, but that you disagree?  Or is it
impossible to understand that they are not all involved in some sort of evil,
mindless conspiracy cooked up in "candiland" by the "cabal".

I Don't feel that we need a new station, but I also don't believe that people
who have different points of view are part of a conspiracy or are puppets.

Maybe you might consider having a debate without denigrating people who think
differently.  Try it you might learn more about the town and actually convert a
few folks to your ideas.
4:23 pm edt 

Re: Fincom

I See No Benefit that Finance committee Members Get From Being On this
Committee

Why are they attacked? Is anyone benefiting from being on this committee? I see
no gain for anyone. I see a lot of time being devoted to numbers and a group
that is beholding to us the taxpayers. We benefit from their work. they surely
do not.
so why are they attacked so often? In the past, it was from Austin Knight, then
Dan Hoort, now Brian Carlson. Why? Maybe someone knows but it is unclear to me
why them.
4:20 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

"This is not about attacking Brian Carlson , this is about being
accountable and Brian felt he was doing the right thing if he truly suspected
fin com was engaging in a violation however it does not appear to be the case
which begs the question on who's bidding if any was he really acting upon to
help? Once he entered the rancor of this seemingly motivated move to file
charges against fin com he and he alone opened the door to scrutiny on his own
doings as an employee and someone acting in an official capacity."


Of course it about attacking Brain Carlson, just as the editor of the Banner was
attacked.  Why does it appear that he was doing the bidding on another?  Where
is there a shred of evidence of that, outside of the constant bombardment of
conspiracy theories?

You say that he brought the unwarranted personal attacks onto himself because he
did what he thought was the right thing. This is not a capital crime.  This is
not treason.  This does not involve moral turpitude.  SO, why, in God's name, do
you react like you have?  You have no right to accuse him of being part of a
setup against the FinCom.  You WANT to believe that and convince others, but you
are just guessing because it never occurred to you that someone can actually do
something without evil, ulterior motives.

DISPUTE THE CHARGE.  IF THE FINCOM DID NO WRONG, THEN OK.  THAT WILL BE DECIDED
BY THE PROPER PEOPLE.  WHERE DO YOU GET OFF THINKING THAT YOU ARE THE SOLE JUDGE
AND JURY.  BRIAN MADE AN ALLEGATION.  PROVE HIM WRONG IN THE ALLEGATION.
4:17 pm edt 

How Sweet the Honey Must Be

But not when it sticks to your wings. then you try to fly and fall, down and
down.

Violations are violations. Can't grant special permits or water galloons to your
own bee hive. It's illegal. It's wrong. And it is not ambiguous. It's a breach
of trust and it's self-serving
4:15 pm edt 

Re: "Big House"

"Just wanted to let you know how happy I am to have sold my big
house..."

How about your little house?  Do you still own it?  By needing to inform us that
you sold your "big house", I can't help feel you made an excellent
decision...for the rest of us, specially!
4:12 pm edt 

Work in Town!

Why is it so hard for straight older people to find work in this town?
1:22 pm edt 

Re: Police Station

Of course the Building Committee did vote that way with the exception with
one hold out the one looking out for the tax payers best interests. The rest
nothing but puppets wanting to spend millions more for a station that far
exceeds the towns needs! how many people on that committee are builders or have
contractors licenses or are on fixed incomes or on unemployment and cant afford
their property taxes as they are now! give me a break a 10 year old can see what
is happening.

LEAVE IT RIGHT WHERE IT IS ITS WORKED JUST FINE FOR YEARS THERE AND STOP
TREATING US LIKE IDIOTS PLEASE
12:39 pm edt 

An Honest Question

For all those who have been posting accusations and
strong misgivings about Mr. Carlson's ability and integrity: Does the timing of
the onslaught have anything to do with his inquiry into the FinCom's possible
unintentional, but unlawful, meeting at George's?  Have any of you ever posted
questions about him before?  Did any of you ever research his comings and goings
and accuse him of violating ethics rules concerning his personal life that might
have been in conflict with his professional responsibilities?  Do you think that
the best way to run the town is to personally attack anyone who disagrees with
you?  Do you think that conspiracy theories are a proper way to seek a better
place?  Do you believe in the rule of law?

Just exactly what do you think is the best way to solve differences?  Can any of
you seriously think about all of this and post your honest thoughts without the
slurs and weird talk of "candiland" and "cabals"?  I sincerely wish for a mature
and open debate, but judging from most posts on this site, I might be a dreamer.
12:36 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

This is not about attacking Brian Carlson , this is about being
accountable and Brian felt he was doing the right thing if he truly suspected
fin com was engaging in a violation however it does not appear to be the case
which begs the question on who's bidding if any was he really acting upon to
help? Once he entered the rancor of this seemingly motivated move to file
charges against fin com he and he alone opened the door to scrutiny on his own
doings as an employee and someone acting in an official capacity. IF AND IF
indeed he approved a bedroom for himself that we all must jump through hoops to
get then shame on him and he should be terminated Immediately, this is exactly
what we are talking about people who choose to past judgement on others ( ex.
fin com) however fail to look in the mirror at that own misdeeds and improper
use of power and then thinks its unfair when they themselves are called to task
for doing it . I think this is going to be a HUGE deal for mister Carlson files missing
and he assigned a bedroom to himself while it is in direct conflict  with his position .
To be able to show such poor judgement and still act on it only goes to show IF proven
to be true,  that corruption is still alive and well in town hall and he needs to go.
12:32 pm edt 

Re: New Road Construction

"I can see someone stepping off the sidewalk and breaking their
ankle.Will they be putting down several layers of pavement to solve the height
of them or are they at the correct height now?"



Sorry, but this is not a DPW site.  They can be reached at the number listed on
the town web site. You will get more definitive info there.  All you can get
here are guesses and questions and opinions.  None of which really matter.

Where are the curbs too high (your opinion)? What do you think is the correct
height?  What is the height that will keep heavy rain from overflowing the
sidewalk into homes and stores?  What will keep the trucks from parking on the
sidewalk and destroying what was just built?

What street are in bad repair?  Certainly not all, I hope since there has been
so much extensive work on Commercial and other places.
12:04 pm edt 

Police Station

The Building Committee voted 4-1 NOT to recommend the monies on the warrant for
another study for Shankpainter Road location, a committee with some common sense
let's hope this continues.
11:29 am edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

" And I think Brian Carlson was key in having Jane fired. she did so
much work and was on site. As to Brian Carlson, I never, ever saw him at the
window and I never, ever saw him doing on-site visits."



Mr. Walker, does it make you happy to run a site that encourages character
assassination, lies, conspiracy theories and little else.  The above quote is a
perfect example.  I never saw him to "on-site visits" either, but all that means
is that I never saw him.  It does not mean that he didn't do them.  He was never
seen at the window.  So what?  Do you sit near the window and monitor peoples
activities?

Jane was always responsive to me, but that does not mean that if she was
deliberately misleading about her attendance at an event, she might be subject
to termination. I don't know all the facts and neither do you.
11:28 am edt 

Smells Like Hell to Me

Just wanted to let you know how happy I am to have sold my big house
in Provincetown. This blog is only as deadly as its participants. I thank The
Lord that I am not tempted to take part in its deadly swirl. Amen and bless all
those too weak to fight and those too stupid to know any better. Either way it
sure smells like hell to me.
11:20 am edt 

Re: New Police Station

Yes the people want to spend money to save money. the explanation for
that is that keeping the police station right where it is will save the tax
payers millions in building costs. If the station is moved to the VFW site which
by the way was supposed to be used for other projects or so we were led to
believe, they plan on erecting a structure that far exceeds the needs for our
small town. This structure being the new police station will cost the tax payers
approximately double what it would cost to leave it were it is.

It is true they need a new station but one that meets state guide
lines not one that exceeds them by a long shot. Again I will state if the police
want a station like that let them come up with a way that does not include the
tax payers taking the hit for it,

     LETS STOP THE B.S. AND START BEING HONEST!!!

11:13 am edt 

New Road Construction

My partner and I visited Provincetown this past weekend and were shocked to see
how in disrepair the roads are. Not to mention the height off the sidewalks.Most
places would be looking to avoid liability, seems like Provincetown is inviting
liability. I can see someone stepping off the sidewalk and breaking their
ankle.Will they be putting down several layers of pavement to solve the height
of them or are they at the correct height now?
11:11 am edt 

Growth Management

I'm sure there are several of us over time that have been inquiring about the
availability of bedrooms and have been interested in knowing who bedrooms are
assigned to under growth management, as we don't want to invest in property only
to find out we must to wait 10 years to get bedrooms.
11:06 am edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

How would you know Brian was never at the window nor did you see him
on on-site visits. What were you his body guard that knew his whereabouts.sounds
like bs to me. Mary!
10:54 am edt 

Brian Carlson - Request for Information

Mark Hatch

6 hrs

I'm posting a letter I sent to Doug Johnstone and David Gardner cc-ing the
Banner. I hope the answers I get will clear the air here on rumor and
speculation that I'm hearing from people in town over this incident. Read the
letter and it contains exactly people's concerns about what happened.
FOIA Request:Growth Application Permit for 4 Upper Miller Hill Road
Gentlemen,

It has come to my attention that a permit application dated 9/24/12 was
submitted by Joe Carleo for the purpose of adding a bedroom to the above
property. The flow was cited as 440 GPD, with an increase of 550 GPD. Mr Carlson
signed that permit that was submitted by his partner for the property that he
himself also owned.

Since Mr Carlson signed a permit for his own property, Mr Gardner directed him
to have this resubmitted via a disinterested third party, and a letter from the
Town of Truro's Health Agent, Patricia Pajaron, dated 10/11/12 was submitted
after that original signed by Mr Carlson was pulled. Copies of these originals
are extant, but we are told some are missing from the files now.

We all know that permitting for the addition of a bedroom is a long process
where people queue up for their permit application to be heard. It sometimes can
take many months, even years, to go through the process. My question here is
very specific so that we can clear the air on all matters relating to this
unfortunate incident and seeming lack of judgement.

So therefore I request all documents, emails, and other town
filings/communications for the following information under the FOIA:
At the time of this request, what applications did the permit queue contain and
what were their specific submission dates?

Where was Mr Carlson's/Mr Carleo's request in relation to everyone else in the
queue when it was filed?

What are the dates, including the average wait times, from application to
approval or denial of these specific types of applications?
What was the wait time for Mr Carlson's/Mr Carleo's request from start date to
approval date?

According to these data, did Mr Carlson's/Mr Carleo's request exactly follow the
order and wait times that everyone else's applications did, or did this
application/approval appear out of order from those already filed?

Finally, because I'm unclear on the process, did pulling the application and
resubmitting it with third party review require that the application be
completely resubmitted and then re-queued?

Thank you for your attention to this matter. I believe if we know the above
particulars, it will help in everyone's determination of the exact path that
this incident followed, and help us to all decide the correct path of action
forward.
10:51 am edt 

Re: New Police Station
 
A TAX PAYERS TAKE ON THE NEW POLICE STATION

The only people that don't want the police station at the current location are
the police and their puppets. While I would agree after taking tour of this
building it is time for new. In the hour a half that I was there being a builder
I came up with a plan that would more than double the square footage while at
the same time gaining parking with no foreseeable problems. The only problem is
the police want a station six or seven times the size of one they have now but
there is no need for it. I also know the people were led to believe the VFW
property was ear marked for other purposes that would be better suited for that
location and impossible to put at the current police departments location.

You would have to be an idiot if you did not see what has happened. The
selectman told the people that the purchase of the VFW property was to good of a
deal to pass up because they wanted the police station there. The problem was
that the town people if told the truth would never go for it. So they found away
around that by being less than honest about what its probable uses would be.

So now they are excepting low ball bids on the Community center and
the old manor properties so they can tell the people there is your affordable
housing now shut up. Then at the same time subsidizing the police station with
the sale of these properties and pushing to put the new station at the VFW
location before they are out of office in may. People are not as dumb as you
think they are especially this one!


IF THEY WANT IT THAT BIG NO PROBLEM LET THEM COME UP WITH THE FUNDS
TO PAY FOR IT, NOT US!!!
10:45 am edt 

Re: "Wow The Hive is After Brian"

We don't think anyone is after Brian we are only making a point.
10:39 am edt 

Sunday, March 30, 2014

Jane Evans Was Fired

And I think Brian Carlson was key in having Jane fired. she did so much work and
was on site. As to Brian Carlson, I never, ever saw him at the window and I
never, ever saw him doing on-site visits.

But to your question: Jane Evans did not resign. she was fired for attending a
seminar she didn't attend and stating that she had.

This was the perfect case, or one-time occasion, to fire her and that they did.
the "they" included Brian Carlson.
10:39 pm edt 

Oh, No. the Hive is Brian Carlson; Queen Bee Extrordinaire

The Hive is now his. he has flown around. He has fluttered his wings. he has now
landed. and ah, oh, the honey has stuck to his wings. He is now stuck in the
moment. Stuck in the past acts. The Queen Bee is now without these delicate
wings, without this once sweet honey.

Let us see what now happens.

10:37 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

Wow. The hive is after Brian.
9:27 pm edt 

Re: What Happened to Jane Evans

"What was the reason Jane Evans resigned? Did she get a better job
offer? She was efficient in all my dealing........"



Jane was pushed out because she had a heated argument with                  
9:24 pm edt 

File the Complaint

" When is someone going to give him a taste of his
own medicine and file a formal complaint?"


Get to it now and then we'll  know the name of one of the cowardly fools.  You
do it, don't wait for someone else to do your dirty work.  Courage of your
convictions, NOT.
9:21 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

"The Finance committee is there to protect us as taxpayers and to
alert us of possible financial problems. they have a financial mandate and it is
the taxpayers they, as a committee, are representing."


WHY CAN"T YOU READ THE CHARTER.The FinCom advises town meeting on money articles
and administers the reserve Fund.  That is IT.  NO MORE> NO WATCHDOG>  NO
ALERTING OF POSSIBLE FINANCIAL PROBLEM.  READ THE LAW.
9:19 pm edt 

Coming Elections

Elections coming up soon who is everyone voting for, are we going to
make this town better or make the same mistakes ??
9:18 pm edt 

To TM Search Comittee:

All this discussion of alleged impropriety in town hall is why the new town
manager CAN NOT be promoted from within nor have any connection to any one or
any group with interests, financial or social in town. Town government needs
"new blood" to sort through this mess.

Sincerely

Someone Still Interested
9:16 pm edt 

"Orchestrated Attack on FinCom?"

Hey folks, don't think that you are so important as to warrant anyone taking
that much interest in you.  The FinCom is an advisory board.  Really, you are
not that important except to yourselves.
9:14 pm edt 

Discipline of Employees

Did you ever stop and think that maybe the superiors of workers are not always
made aware of what the employee is doing. Most supervisors have complete faith
and competence in their staff. A supervisor should not have to constantly be
checking on an employee to see what that employee is doing. Does the town not do
job performances for employees to get raises or does that just happen in the
private sector.
9:11 pm edt 

This Ain't the Provincetown I Remember

Wow. This blog has turned into a bunch of angry anonymous people
trying to get Brian Carlson fired because he followed protocol and reported
something he knew was wrong. What a bunch of mean, nasty, vindictive people. And
it's pretty sad that rather than admit their wrongdoing, the FinCom launches a
campaign to take down the person who pointed it out.

Man, this ain't the Provincetown I remember. This is a town full of hate. I'm
embarrassed to call these people my neighbors.
9:09 pm edt 

Reprinted from The Voice by Permission:

FOIA Request:Growth Application Permit for 4 Upper Miller Hill Road

Gentlemen,

It has come to my attention that a permit application dated 9/24/12 was
submitted by Joe Carleo for the purpose of adding a bedroom to the above
property. The flow was cited as 440 GPD, with an increase of 550 GPD. Mr Carlson
signed that permit that was submitted by his partner for the property that he
himself also owned.

Since Mr Carlson signed a permit for his own property, Mr Gardner directed him
to have this resubmitted via a disinterested third party, and a letter from the
Town of Truro's Health Agent, Patricia Pajaron, dated 10/11/12 was submitted
after that original signed by Mr Carlson was pulled. Copies of these originals
are extant, but we are told some are missing from the files now.

We all know that permitting for the addition of a bedroom is a long process
where people queue up for their permit application to be heard. It sometimes can
take many months, even years, to go through the process. My question here is
very specific so that we can clear the air on all matters relating to this
unfortunate incident and seeming lack of judgement.

So therefore I request all documents, emails, and other town
filings/communications for the following information under the FOIA:

At the time of this request, what applications did the permit queue contain and
what were their specific submission dates?
Where was Mr Carlson's/Mr Carleo's request in relation to everyone else in the
queue when it was filed?
What are the dates, including the average wait times, from application to
approval or denial of these specific types of applications?
What was the wait time for Mr Carlson's/Mr Carleo's request from start date to
approval date?
According to these data, did Mr Carlson's/Mr Carleo's request exactly follow the
order and wait times that everyone else's applications did, or did this
application/approval appear out of order from those already filed?
Finally, because I'm unclear on the process, did pulling the application and
resubmitting it with third party review require that the application be
completely resubmitted and then re-queued?

Thank you for your attention to this matter. I believe if we know the above
particulars, it will help in everyone's determination of the exact path that
this incident followed, and help us to all decide the correct path of action
forward.
9:07 pm edt 

Ptown School Shout Back

I am aware of the laws about firing an employee I have had to do it myself
for a similar problem. I am also aware of public intoxication laws, having drugs
in a school zone, OUI and endangering the welfare of a child laws which are all
arresting offences. I can state for the record that I and others have seen this
women do all of the above on multiple occasions. As for if the superintendent
knows I hope not because if she did she would be remiss and negligent in her
duties for not having acted yet. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen lets put a
stop to it before something terrible occurs.

      PLEASE MRS. SINGER PUT A STOP TO IT ANYWAY YOU CAN.
9:04 pm edt 

Simply Awful

This website, run by a member of the FINCOM, is horrifying. The webmaster should
be ashamed of himself for allowing the comments being made against a person that
submitted a legal complaint for what he saw as an illegal act. As one poster
mentioned, imagine the legal costs of defending a matter against this person for
speaking out. His job is now being brought into question because the blew the
whistle on an illegal act? I supported the concept of this website a while back
as it took the town to task in regards to the police matters and the TMs
inactions but this is too much. The FINCOM has gone WAY out of line on this one
and it's time to stop.
9:01 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

This Has Nothing to do About Courage

this is attempting to undermine the finance committee. We all go to George's
after meetings. We go to sit and relax. This is absolutely ridiculous if not
sleezy on Carlson's part. do you believe this group was plotting? We they
discussing issues and keeping the public from their discussions? Of course not.
they were relaxing and having a pizza and a drink. Carlson was someone's puppet.
Not courageous at all but a person being used. How sad he is and how sad for all
of us. this is no breach of the Open Meeting Law. It is a board getting together
after a meeting without plans but walking across the street.
8:57 pm edt 

Filing Complaints

Are you kidding me! Have you ever tried to file a complaint against someone that
you need to do business with for future inspections. Try it some time and see
what happends.
8:55 pm edt 

Re: Police Station

Can someone please explain to me why some people are insisting that
the Police Station be keep at its current location?  It seems that there are a
multitude of problems keeping the station there.  The VFW is just down the
street.  And now we are being asked to spend $45,000 for a study?!  What a waste
of money!

Please someone explain to me why?
8:53 pm edt 

Health Agent

What was the reason Jane Evans resigned. Did she get a better job offer? She was
efficient in all my dealings with her as health agent. She knew her job and did
it well and always returned my phone calls and showed up on site without me
having to make an appointment.I was shocked the day I called to speak with her
and was informed she was no longer working for the town.
3:27 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

Brian's filed complaint is based on eyewitnesses.  Complaints about
Brian are based on hard documents; not hearsay.
3:26 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson

What Mr. Carlson did does not mean that he should be discharged. Let's give the
benefit of the doubt that it could have  been an honest ovversight on his part.
Once brought to his atttehtion the correction was made.
3:23 pm edt 

Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

How are all these inappropriate actions by Brian Carlson going
unnoticed by his superiors?  All these people are posting things that Brian has
done that are inappropriate. When is someone going to give him a taste of his
own medicine and file a formal complaint?  Get on it people. If your not going
to take action, then stop complaining!
3:21 pm edt 

Brian Carlson's Degree Paid For by the Town

Let us not forget the fact that the town may have reimbursed Mr. Carlson for his
masters degree. How is that possible?

2:26 pm edt 

Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

How could an agent of the Town approve an application for ANYTHING that involves
their personal interest? Seriously?

If, in fact, Carlson committed such an act, he should be treated much the same
as the Town has handled other incidents. Discharged!

Look at the past and that will predict Carlson's future. Done...

12:27 pm edt 

Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

Let's be honest... Brian is horrible at his job! Nice guy, but not
good at his job. Also, how many times have we all seen him driving around with
theatre people during the work day. Clearly the theatre is his priority. He's
always doing theatre business during town time.
12:25 pm edt 

Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

Maybe a member of FinCom should file against Brian?
12:23 pm edt 

Improper Actions

Ok, so it appeears what Mr. Carlson did was inappropriate but does that mean he
should have shut his mouth on what he claims he witnessed at George's Pizza. 
I'm sure there are other people who have done behind the scenes, as the old
saying goes, you scratch my back and I'll scratach yours exchanges. May be it is
time for thee AG's office to step in.
12:20 pm edt 

Banner - Editorial

A very simple question to Sally, the editor: will you write an editorial
condemning the actions of Mr. Carlson regarding the improper granting of the
extra gallons to he and his partners property? There is more where that came
from in Town Hall! Will you write the editorial Sally?
12:17 pm edt 

Re: Improper Actions on School Grounds

To the most recent poster, in case you are not aware of the laws, you cannot
just terminate someone from their position.  You must first offer that
individual counseling.  There are certain steps required before firing someone. 

Please be carefful what you say publicly and how you approach this subject. I'm
sure the superintendent is aware but due to certain laws and requirements she is
probablly treading carefully.
12:06 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson ---

Be careful what you wish for!       

Perhaps it will be in Brians best interest and to that of the Town to resign from his job
as Health Agent! Did he fulfill and pass his State requirement? 

Did he do theater business on town time as was reported? Since he's committed as
President to the Theater Company,perhaps he could work there full time,a job to which
he more be gainfully suited.

In any case, good luck!
12:03 pm edt 

Re: Beth Singer

Trouble with that is: if she likes you and you're well liked by the staff, you
will be protected....      or not. Welfare of kids or not.

The Singer administration is one of hearsay. She doesn't go by whether she knows
you or not...just by what others say.

Unfortunately, she's a sloppy administrator. Since she has a "Dr" before her
name...that's her defense. If the others don't tell her...she doesn't know. She
isn't a hands on superintendent.

Sorry Beth, I go by the strength of one's intelligence and actions. You are not
immune to criticism. Get off your high horse and "try" being one of the
commoners. Get out of that office and be part of the school system...not looking
from the inside out of that glass tower you call an office.
12:00 pm edt 

Is Brian Carlson - Only one of Many?

"It is rather obvious that the information regarding Brian Carlson must have come
from Town Hall.
Additionally, it is therefore logical to conclude that there is much more
information pertaining to
the inner workings of town hall that has not been published.

The nature of the situation is somewhat similar to the Edward Snowden affair and
should over time prove very interesting."


Correction- not many- a few- Just wait until this town sees what            has
been up too. Clench your pearls girls. This will be a true show. I say better
than Ptown Theater . Watch wait and see.
11:42 am edt 

Posted in Provincetow/Truro Lighthouse

Five months ago this article appeared: but the shit really hit the fan this time 2013:
11:38 am edt 

Sorry but Sinaido is Self-Serving

It is unfortunatly the truth. all his amendments are self-serving so he doesn't
have to look at a house nest to his east end property. He builds and builds with
and without permits but he is making that piece of land unbuildable. all to his
advantage and all to his privacy. then buy the land Sinaiko if you don't want
neighbors. do what all of us must do if we don't want anyone building next to
us. Purchase the land.

This has nothing to do with developers--of which we could add Sinaiko. In fact,
he wants to add to the land that he upturned and to the dune hill that he cut
into and to all the sand that he moved but now wants no one else to be allowed
to do what he did and is still doing.

this article needs to be changed back to what it was. without the change back,
we will all be negatively affected if we own any land and any house in
Provincetown.
11:32 am edt 

Reverse Mortgages

Are te Realtors all out of sorts about reverse mortgages that was
posted on  this blog recently? I don't understand their analagy, "When aged
parents take a reverse  mortgage and the heirs have to pay it back later!"
People  are living longer. Some beyond their savings,between longevity and
economy,they are forced to do something to survive! We all know it doesn"t work
for everyone! Heirs have two options: 1) To take care of their own,so they don't
hav to do that! -- 2) Pay the consequences! If people worked hard to own their
own property they should  do what's necessary to stay in it & survive! If heirs
have contributed nothing what gives them the right to ownership of anything?
There was a time when working children had to contribute to the household! I
wonder when the last time that was done?
11:29 am edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

10 CAPE COD COMMISSION FACTS

Ten things you may already know about the Cape Cod Commission

Contrary to the misleading facts and data, clear misrepresentations, as well as
outright lies being distributed for public consumption by the Cape Cod
Commission during the last several months:

1. It does NOT live within its means, and does NOT beat the consumer price
index.

2. It does NOT save towns money.

3. It does NOT save the region money.

4. It does NOT bring in outside money, it only sucks up other sources of
taxpayer generated funding along with its ravenously consumed regular diet of
public revenue.

5. The towns are NOT the Commission; they are appointed and non-elected
officials and bureaucrats who are not accountable to anyone but themselves.

6. There is nothing new about the Cape Cod Commission, it still a regional
bureaucratic dictatorship loading us all down with red tape and unnecessary
government interference in our lives.

7. The CCCs regulatory staff and its authority to control has been dramatically
increasing during the last year.

8. The projects that it does approve take months and years to push through
Commission red tape at a cost of tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands
of dollars. Many conditions placed upon those so called approved projects are
overly burdensome to the applicant and to the community.

9. There is no such thing as an area that truly avoids Commission review. Even
the highly touted Growth Incentive Zones must first be reviewed and approved by
the Cape Cod Commission before becoming a GIZ. Moreover, if a project goes into
a GIZ, and if the Commission feels like it, they still reserve the right to
review and stop a project when all is said and done.

10. It makes little difference if the Commission's executive director is the
first non-planner to hold the position. The issue and problem has to do with the
bureaucratic organization that is the Cape Cod Commission, NOT about any
particular person.

FINALLY, despite having made promise after promise that it would NOT pursue an
MWRA-style county-wide regional wastewater authority with taxation powers the
Cape Cod Commission in recent months has made steady but little noticed movement
to do exactly that. Keep the Commission out of your pocket and out of your
bathroom!

DISMANTLE THE CAPE COD COMMISSION, THAT IS THE BEST ANSWER TO ALL OF THEIR
11:27 am edt 

Is Brian Carlson - Only one of Many?

It is rather obvious that the information regarding Brian Carlson must have come from Town Hall.
Additionally, it is therefore logical to conclude that there is much more information pertaining to
the inner workings of town hall that has not been published.

The nature of the situation is somewhat similar to the Eward Snowden affair and should over
time prove very interesting.
 
1:30 am edt 

Posted in the Provincetown/Truro Lighthouse
I was told, "You can stamp your feet all day long . . . but that won't change the law. If you believe a town employee is breaking the law bring it to the proper authority. You will not find that authority on this site." So I did just that.
12:43 am edt 

Provincetown Public School
 
TO BETH SINGER SUPERINTENDENT


I hope you plan on taking immediate action against the mother who routinly shows
up drunk on school property to watch her sons sporting events and is also a
lunch counter at the school. Its my understanding the police have been made
aware of this situation and also that DSS has been called on her. This can not
be allowed to continue unchecked and I suggest that she be terminated from town
employment and be closely monitored at further events that she might attend on
school grounds. The safety of the children come first and foremost what can she
possibly be thinking!

            PLEASE POST THIS IT IS EXTREMLY IMPORTANT
12:24 am edt 

Re: Brian Carlson vs FinCom

What's worse?  Doing some small talk about a finance meeting item  you
just met about, or getting your own permits for a 5th bedroom, and extra gallons
of water?  Hmmmmm...
12:17 am edt 

Re: Candyland

Poor Candy...always so willing to be used...
12:13 am edt 

Vincent Currier Posted in the provincetown/Truro Lighthouse

This email in the attached PDF and below helps inform the reality of the FinCom
Town Hall tension (war?), It is relevant I think to the thread on the voice about
FinCom OML kerfuffle and the debate about the CEC.

From: Candace Nagle
To: Sharon Lynn
Cc: Dan Hoort
Subject: helping to take the wind of the FinCom
Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:40:56 AM
Heads up! Sharon, I am going to ask this question to you at STM to
help end FinCom’s stubborn determination to develop a CIP even
though it is not consistent with our Town Charter:
ARE THERE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE FOR DEVELOPING A
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM CONSISTENT WITH THE TOWN’S
CHARTER?
Candace
12:00 am edt 

Saturday, March 29, 2014

Improper Actions of Board Members


I just read your most recent posts and I am flabbergasted to say the least. Is
it true the attorney general is investigating the incidents of the finance
committe? Does this mean they wiill now be looking into  the most recent
posting. Do these types of investigations cost us taxpayers money?
11:55 pm edt 

Posted in Provincetown Voice

Well well well! Seems Mr Brian Carlson should go over and read the exhibits
over on MYPACC someone pointed me to (I usually don't read the page but
this was too good to ignore). I'll reproduce the post below but I can't include
the actual exhibits. You can go there to see. It seems like people who want to
scream about ethics violations should make sure they're in the clear first before
tossing allegations at others. It also reminds me that the biggest issue isn't what
Fincom ...is doing, but what's happening at Town Hall behind our backs...

"We Are All Honorable Men & Women Until Proven Otherwise

On September 24, 2012 Brian Carlson acting in his capacity as Health Agent signed
his approval for the increase water use via a Growth Management Allocation Permit,
for the property located at 4 Upper Hill Rd, ignoring the fact that the property in question
was owned by him and his partner Joe Carleo.

Mr. Carlson’s rendering his personal approval was in direct contravention of state and
town law and an obvious conflict of interest, bringing into question the matter of an ethics
violation. When this matter was brought to the attention of the Assistant Town Manager,
to his credit, he required Carlson to resubmit the growth application via the use of
a disinterested party i.e. the Town of Truro Health Agent.

See Town of Truro Health
Department Letter dated October 11, 2012.

The issue in this matter is that Brian Carlson knew full well the illegality of the actions
he was taking and chose to ignore the rules. Subsequent to the application resubmission,
the original application went suspiciously “missing” from the file, So much for integrity.

This is not an allegation! This is an actionable charge of impropriety."

11:32 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson

Guess the Way to Get Extra Gallons...

is to give it to yourself--objectively and fairly! Want more galloons, then
inspect your own condominium. Want an extra bedroom, then again, inspect and
approve your own property. seems like a sure w ay to get extra galloons and an
extra bedroom.

How odd! How deceptive. How unethical.
11:28 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson

So much for integrity....Brian.
6:27 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

This I don't Understand

The Finance committee is there to protect us as taxpayers and to alert us of
possible financial problems. they have a financial mandate and it is the
taxpayers they, as a committee, are representing. Unlike some other Finance
committees, this group does not work for the BOS but for us. So why are some
people threatened by this committee?

And it seems that it is people at town hall that are threatened. Why?  Are some
town officials afraid of the questions being asked by this finance committee?
Are they afraid of the transparency that is now being asked and required?

If they are there for us as taxpayers, why not support what they do--they are
surely not self serving and don't gain anything from the financial decisions
they make.

Is it that some want to carry out projects and want more monies than they should
have and hardly want other sets of eyes looking at them?

In short, they should be a committee that we appreciate and listen carefully to
instead of being attacked as they so often are.
6:25 pm edt 

FinCom vs Brian Carlson

Group outings to a local hangout after meetings is an old tradition!
Used to be at Napi's,now seem to be at George's Pizza. People still have freedom
of speech and a committee group can meet to eat and discuss the weather, the
price of summer squash in winter, or whatever came up before them while in
meeting in another place,providing they don't vote on anything,so said Ethics
Commission back then when it was questioned! When did Ethics Comm. change the
rules or did they?
6:23 pm edt 

FinCom Allegations
 
Mr. Carlson reported something he believed he heard and saw. Was it the right
thing to do?  Obviously he thought it was as he made the incident publicly
known. As previous posts mention, if there are violations against him and others
then they should be responsible for their wrongdoings. Again, was it right for
him to report what he witnessed or should he have approached the FinCom members
in a delicate way to inform them he could hear their conversation and from where
he was sitting it appeared they were discussing business so they might want to
be aware of the open meeting law. We live in a very small community and just
about evveryone knows each other.  Probably the more appropriate approach would
havve been to let the FinCom members know it appeared their convversation
sounded like they were discussing business. Many years past i served on a few
committees and we would get together after a meeting.  At some point in time
during our convversations someone in our group wou!
ld make slight mention of what type off meeting we had.Were we in vviolation,
we would not havve thought so.If we were in violation we would havve prefered if
someone made it known to us instead of not making us aware of it and then
reporting us.  I'm elderly now but evven if i were not, you would not get me to
serve on any committee with evveryithng that is going on now!
6:18 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson

Dear Brian,

I never thought you were very good at your job after working with
You. You have no idea about conservation and your record
For doing spot inspections on restaurants is non existent.. Yes,you
Do inspect,but who ever heard of giving appointments for sanitary
Health inspections????
Provincetown has vacation rentals up the kazo due to cookie cutter
Developers, how many of these units are inspected?? Since ptown
Decided to start charging for the inspections? I would say less than
30 percent ,and I am involved in the rental business.
Now I read about your personnel water allotment. That's great,
I had to wait for my allotment.
You are just another reason we left ptown.
5:34 pm edt 

Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent - So Much For Integrity


We Are All Honorable Men&Women Until Proven Otherwise

On September 24, 2012 Brian Carlson acting in his capacity as Health Agent signed
his approval for the increase water use via a Growth Management Allocation Permit,
 for the property located at 4 Upper Hill Rd, ignoring the fact that the property in
 question was owned by him and his partner Joe Carleo.

Mr. Carlson’s rendering his personal approval was in direct contravention of state
and town law and an obvious conflict of interest, bringing into question the matter
of an ethics violation. When this matter was brought to the attention of the
Assistant Town Manager, to his credit, he required Carlson to resubmit the growth
 application via the use of a disinterested party i.e. the Town of Truro Health Agent.
 
See Town of Truro Health Department Letter dated October 11, 2012.

The issue in this matter is that Brian Carlson knew full well the illegality of the
 actions he was taking and chose to ignore the rules. Subsequent to the application
 resubmission, the original application went suspiciously “missing” from the file, So
 much for integrity.

This is not an allegation! This is an actionable charge of impropriety.
 
See Exhibits Below
 BrianCarlsonI.jpgyBrianCarlsonII.jpg.BrianCarlsonIII.jpg

BrianCarlsonIV.jpg.BrianCarlsonV.jpg

 
4:08 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson

It's a sad commentary that so called intelligent people are misreading
the truth here even though it's being intimated here! Judging with emotion! Some
know things that other don't! People are attacking the Fin Com without knowing
if the Complainant, Mr. Carlson,should have kept his mouth shut for doing more
underhanded things in the workplace himself & tried to hide it!! Not mundane
things like "exceeding the speed limit" The 1st response to this will be,'I
don't believe that!" Well,guess what? You're wrong! There's dishonesty in alot
of people if it benefits them! The trick is not to get caught! If you don't know
what you're talking about ,maybe you should SHUT UP!!                                    
12:09 pm edt 

Re: FinCom vs Brian Carlson

Did anyone EVER THINK that if Fin Com was discussing anything and was
going to put suspicion on themselves for open meeting law violation, they would
NOT have picked a public place access the street from town hall? Maybe they
wanted to socialize and have a pizza.  Someone in this town needs to examine why
they NEED to cause problems. Jezz Get a life
10:01 am edt 

Banner Editorial - Brian Carlson

They should Handle this in the normal way?

Is this what the Banner did? they did not let the process take hold and then,
after a determination is made, state their position. the Bannner took the
allegations as fact and praised Brian Carlson for courage. Courage for what? to
possibly be the pawn in an orchestrated attack on Fincom? Isn't this what
happened before last year's Town Meeting and that time with the help of the
police to stop and threaten FinCom members. Same attempt and perhaps if you look
behind the curtain, you'll see the same figures pulling the strings.

It is disgusting not upstanding. And perhaps Brain Carlson, who loves to act, is
performing as a character with upstanding credentials and honorable attributes.
Quite the act, quite the play.
9:59 am edt 

Re: What is Honesty?

To answer your question(s), no, I wouldn't have too much faith in someone like
that but without legitimate allegations and facts to support them, your question
means nothing.
9:56 am edt 

Brian Carlson

HMMMMMM I wonder if I should be obliged to, as was Mr. Carlson, to
report what skeletons are hanging around in HIS closet and trust me these will
make your head spin talk about violations , details soon to follow :)
9:55 am edt 

Banner Editorial/Sally Rose

Two weeks in a row where she steps out and sticks her foot in her mouth. This
week she's defending Brian as a genius and last week she went after someone on
an alleged ethics violation only to have someone corrected her on
allegations(first letter to the editor). Where does she get off as the say all,
end all beacon of guidence for the town? Oh, wait. Lets look back at the two
previous owner/editors of the Banner. Makes sense now.
9:47 am edt 

Brian Carlson
   
"To all of our posters I have only two questions you should ask
yourselves. What would you think and how would you feel if you learned that a
person that files a complaint against another person has also violated
laws.Would we still have thesame amount of faith in what someone says they
saw to be gospel?"


So you have never exceeded the speed limit?  You have never rolled through a
stop sign at just a couple miles per hour?  You have never broken any law of any
sort?  What kind of fools do you take us for?  So, do you really mean that if as
a kid I took some candy from a store that never again in my life should I be
believed about anything.  You my friend are a disingenuous      . Actually you
are probably much more than a       since        are not really responsible for
their mental limitations.  You are         and          .  You are nasty and a
character            .  You are not a        person and have not a shred of common
courtesy.  You are disgusting.  Did I make my point.  Go to your room without
dinner.

9:44 am edt 

Brian Carlson...

How long do town employees get for lunch?... Is is
acceptable for them to take a lunch then go to the gym for over an hour during
the work day?  Seems our town is paying for way too much free time. Maybe
someone should be watching the time cards!!!!!
9:38 am edt 

Friday, March 28, 2014

What is Honesty?

To all of our posters I have only two questions you should ask yourselves. What
would you think and how would you feel if you learned that a person that files a
complaint against another person has also violated laws.Would we still have the
same amount of faith in what someone says they saw to be gospel?
7:17 pm edt 

Banner Editorial

"The Banner and Newspeak:

They are the same. State something. It is fact. Wish something. It is fact."

What a wonderful way to have a difference of opinion.  ATTACK THE PERSON AND
CLAIM TOTAL DISHONESTY AND STUPIDITY.  Don't debate the ideas.  Attack the
character.  Never admit that someone else could truthfully believe what they
say.  Always attack and destroy.  Nasty-nasty-nasty.
6:36 pm edt 

Affordable Housing

Two things, first Brian Carlson is a good guy, period. Second, an
increase in the % share that affordable housing receives from rooms tax is fine
but not a 60% share. The advocates for more affordable housing need to present
to the town guidelines for qualification that makes sense, proposals to limit
fraud and plans to increase jobs that can support the individuals in this
housing.
6:31 pm edt 

Re: Brain Carlson - "I Overheard"

"Hold on to your tea cup. You just might be spinning in it!"

So now this debate has descended into threats?  Please. can someone explain why
the FinCom can't just accept the complaint as offered and let the charge be
handled in the normal legal fashion. This incident is not an attack on anyone's
character.  There is no moral turpitude involved.  There may have been no intent
to break any laws, but that does not mean that the law was not violated.  This
is no big deal.  It is like getting a parking ticket when you forget the time
and overstayed the meter.  No evil intent, but still a violation.  So stop with
the attacks on Brian.

This is not a major scandal.
6:29 pm edt 

Re: Brain Carlson - "I Overheard"
 
"Really. This is proof? "I overheard." This is not proof. This is not
anything.You can say your "overheard" a thousand things."


Truly weird attempts to make this go away.

Say I saw Joe Jones shoot and kill Bob Doe.  Joe runs away and gets rid of the
gun.  The police arrest Joe on my statement.  The case goes to trial.  Should my
info that I saw the killing be thrown out under the same rule of logic that
makes you say that what Brian heard irrelevant?

In your twisted dictionary, what constitutes proof.  Only photos and recordings? 
But of course they can be altered also.  SO I guess that there is no such thing
as proof of anything.  This could lead to universal skepticism which is really a
tough place to be since you can't even be sure of your skepticism.
6:26 pm edt 

Brian Carlson

Everyone notice the classy manner in which certain people react to the
open meeting complaint?  Attack the complainant.

How about if we thank him for bringing it to our attention.

6:24 pm edt 

Reverse Mortage Nightmare

All of these aged parents taking out a reverse mortgage--once they die their
heirs suddenly have to pay back the money spent from  the $700,000.00 or
$800,000.00 reverse mortgage that their parents used--or lose the house.

What the heirs are inheriting is debt! It is hitting the surviving family
members all over the country.

Make sure you understand the unintended consequences--you may have to sell the
family home and give the money back to the bank unless you are rich.
6:22 pm edt 

Affordable Housing

TAXPAYERS SHOULD PAY PEOPLE'S RENTS

Here is one little part of what is being stated to the Finance Committee:

The Town should create an Enterprise Fund to purchase and maintain a portfolio
of properties all over town that will be available for rentals.

This would be a means to manage the town's real estate portfolio in a more
consistent and disciplined fashion to achieve our broader goals. We should build
on the Housing Authorities experience as a landlord and create a similar
infrastructure to handle town-owned property.

Hey Taxpayers, this means that the town will raise your taxes to buy property to
rent out cheaply. This falls on the backs of the taxpayers--no two ways about
it.
6:20 pm edt 

The Banner and Newspeak

They are the same. State something. It is fact. Wish something. It is fact.

This is not news. It is a world without names. Wackiness as real.

Why not bring back Mary Ann Bragg, Sharon Lynn supporter par excellance. Don't
worry about objectivity. Don't worry about truth. This is Banner news and it is
quite the Banner day when whatever someone says is treated as top news, top
story.

1984 is here.
12:28 pm edt 

"Perspicacity" Sally Rose

Really! How interesting to find that you find that brain Carlson can be
applauded for his "perspicacity" a word he would find hard to understand. but
you needed to use all tough armaments, all words that could sadly bolster your
false claims.

Had the Attorney General ruled in favor of this questionable individual, then it
may have made sense to go on and on editorially as you did. but here is what is
odd, my dear --this is but an allegation. this is but hearsay. and yet you have
gone all out to support an allegation and treat it as if--as if it were truth.

How low your standards as an editor--or maybe now only a commercial  vendor of
products--you have become. How the dream has turned and twisted into a
nightmare.

And I don't think that Alix would have ever condone such questionable behavior.
Yes, how low can you go? I fear to ask because I fear the true answer.

What a disappointment your have become.

12:26 pm edt 

Thursday, March 27, 2014

Sit On Brian, Sit On

You just happened to be there. and you just happened to hear--oh, what did you
hear Alice? What did you see Alice? And did the rabbit take you into the hole?
Did Alice appear with the King of Hearts, Brian? Did fantasy take over your own
reality? Have you been acting too much to really decipher reality?

Life is a stage and I don't think you know what stage you are actually playing
on. But you will soon find out. That, I guarantee.

Hold on to your tea cup. You just might be spinning in it!
11:31 pm edt 

Brain Carlson - "I Overheard"

Really. This is proof? "I overheard." This is not proof. This is not anything.
You can say your "overheard" a thousand things.

Where is the proof? I'm no lawyer but this is rather ridiculous. l where is Mr.
Carlson's proof of what he "overheard.."

Can't anyone say anything if there is no evidence, no facts, nor recording?

11:28 pm edt 

Candiland

The fun thing about the candiland postings is that many of the readers
can pinpoint which ones can be attributed to it.

Candiland fools no one.
11:26 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson

This is a Man Who hardly speaks or Answers any questions

When he is the town liason for conservation and for health. and he found big
balls to file a complaint. Seems someone must have painted balls on him. It's
almost comical if it didn't take some people's rights away.

Sometimes a town employee should attend to his or her business. do it well and
we would all be better off. but is Brian Carlson always there to answer
questions, to do inspections, to answer the phone and all calls that come in
each and every day?

The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind.
11:21 pm edt 

Strange How an Allegation Becomes Reality With Some

Anyone can alleged anything and that is what Brian Carlson, health Agent
Provacateur, did. he alleged--there is not fact that his allegation is true. And
yet his Candyland buddies have already determined that a violation occurred. How
odd life is when what is one's little, tiny head bec ome a big enlarged de facto
reality.

Only in Candyland!!
11:19 pm edt 

Brian Carlson's Response to FinCom Letter of Inquiry


March 27, 2014 Dear Mr. Canizales,


I am in receipt of your letter dated March 20, 2014, which was hand delivered
to me on March 21, 2014, whereby the Provincetown Finance Committee has
requested additional information regarding the Open Meeting complaint I filed
with the Town Clerk on March 12, 2014.


First, I want to take a moment to thank the Finance Committee for meeting to
discuss and address my complaint. Due to my work schedule I was not able to
attend the meeting. As a member of the community, property owner, taxpayer,
and voter I appreciate your time and consideration and your desire to ensure that
the open meeting process and the laws of the Commonwealth are being protected
and honored.


I would like to make some points of clarification regarding your letter dated March
20, 2014, and also to expand on my observations of the events, which occurred on February 11, 2014.


1. The unidentified person I saw was a male not a female.


2. I was sitting alone having pizza after work before I had to go back for an
    evening work meeting which started at 6:30PM.


3. While I was eating I observed Mr. Canizales come in and sit at one of

the larger tables nearby where I was sitting. We acknowledged each other.

He was the first person to arrive.


4. I observed that Mr. Canizales set a binder on the table and opened it.


5. Within a few moments I observed other members of the Finance

Committee and the Town Moderator, which I named in my complaint, come

into the establishment and proceed to sit at the large table with Mr. Canizales.


6. Shortly after the group had assembled Mr. Peter Donnelly a Provincetown

resident came into the establishment. He also observed the Town Moderator,

Duane Steele, Clarence Walker and others sitting together at the table. Mr.

Donnelly acknowledged me as he passed by on his way to the counter. He has

given me permission to state this information in this letter.


7. I overheard Mr. Walker speaking to Ms. Russo, both of whom were seated at

the table with the other Finance Committee members, talk about the Town Counsel

budget. Mr. Walker thought the budget was to high and that they needed to reduce it.


8. It was shortly after this point that I became uncomfortable sitting so close to

where the Finance Committee was gathered that I decided to leave the establishment.



Thank you again for your time in addressing my concerns. As I stated, I did not
officially file to attack any individual or group of people, I simply observed what
I perceive to be a violation of the State's Open Meeting Law and felt obligated to
inform your committee.


Sincerely,


Brian Carlson

cc: Acting Town Manager

Amy Nable, Assistant Attorney General

Division of Open Government

Office of the Attorney General

One Ashburton Place

Boston, MA 02108

5:27 pm edt 

Re: Mr. Sinako

I am not a friend of Mr. Sinako. I do think we should have let him turn his
mother's garden into a parking lot! HOWEVER, it might be a good idea to check
building permits before accusing him of breaking the law.  If in fact he did do
work that is not on these permits, you SHOULD report it to the building
department.

14-00175   08/27/2013   Residential Permit   Permit Issued   14-BPR-00030  
08/27/2013   295 BRADFORD ST   15-3-61-0   SINAIKO JONATHAN   SINAIKO JONATHAN  
292 BRADFORD ST PROVINCETOWN MA 02657


14-00152   08/22/2013   Residential Permit   Permit Issued   14-BPR-00026  
08/22/2013   295 BRADFORD ST   15-3-61-0   SINAIKO JONATHAN   SINAIKO JONATHAN  
292 BRADFORD ST PROVINCETOWN MA 02657


13-01265   06/20/2013   Electrical Permit   Permit Issued   13-E-00265  
06/20/2013   295 BRADFORD ST   15-3-61-0   Gerald Costa Electrician   SINAIKO
JONATHAN   292 BRADFORD ST PROVINCETOWN MA 02657
4:58 pm edt 

Clarence, You are Being Investigated

Just a heads up Clarence. Your role with FinCom and your role as Blogmaster are
in conflict with all laws of this Commonwealth. You are being investigated for
your exclusion of pertinent information for discussion. One sided discussion,
dictated by you, are in violation in the context of serving on a board. Can't
wait to see you squirm.
4:57 pm edt 

I Hate These Fake Postings

All from the Candyland group. All attacking the webmaster. All challenging him
to dare to post their rather nasty postings. Call up that hate-filled Candy land
group and post to each other. We hardly need your fake postings.
4:55 pm edt 

Hey Clarence

Where is the bold description with nasty yellow highlights on the Open Meeting
law that you just violated.
4:54 pm edt 

As far As I'm Concerned

If you're not happy with what the webmaster posts, then, sir, start your own.
Your unhappy and act like a malcontent, then begin your own little blog.

Then you will have your own little perogatives.

4:49 pm edt 

Banner Finally Gets it Right

Thanks for the editorial Banner. Didn't think you had it in you.
4:47 pm edt 

Thank You Brian Carlson

In all my dealings with Brian both personal and professional
he is one of the few people with integrity in Town Hall and in any committee. He
is honest and straight forward and very, very serious about his work. The
findings will determine whether this is a violation or not. In the meantime I
wish people on this blog would take just a tiny bit of these qualities mentioned
since they appear to be lacking greatly.
4:45 pm edt 

Provincetown Public Library

I haven't heard that Cheryl Napsha filed a complaint, but if she did -
good for her!  Our boards and committees don't seem to care about the law and
being transparent for our residents and taxpayers.

It's unfortunate that staff are being put in this position, but I'm proud of
them for stepping up.
4:43 pm edt 

If Ann Packard Resigned, Why?

What is happening at the Library? It seems a mess and why doesn't someone--who
is in charge here??--maybe David Gardner do something. It is more than
disorganized and demoralized. another Sharon Lynn appointee that had little
skill but fell into her realm of "acceptable" candidates. Let's focus on
expertise and leadership. something is not going right and it has been like this
since this new woman was hired as director.

Are we rudderless?

2:36 pm edt 

Problem Deflection

Obviously Clarence does not want his board criticized in any way at
all. He picks and chooses which posts that he posts.  He'll post this to "prove"
how even-handed he is, but didn't post previous items discussing the FinCom
because he didn't want a different opinion in writing for all to see.

All of his sycophants try to deflect a possible problem with the law by
attacking the complainant.  That to me is very indicative of an inability to
defend the charge.
2:34 pm edt 

Banner Editorial

Wow, Banner didn't pull any punches with their editorial.  Hope it
gets posted here.
2:12 pm edt 

What's up?

What is up recently with the police sargent who was sending the
threatening text messages?  Also, he was on Grindr all the time when he was
working.  Did he get caught buying drinks for someone underage?  Will he ever be
disciplined or fired?
2:11 pm edt 

Re: Jonathan Sinaiko

Read the post about Jonathan Sinaiko.  He has been doing illegal
work in his properties for years and he never gets permits.  His current one was
a shed and he has already added plumbing to it.  Where are the permits Jonathan? 
Should you really be concerned with other people when you break more regulations
than anyone?
2:08 pm edt 

Ah, Oh! Minsky and Martin Were at the Retirement Party......

....at Nappi's for Maxine Notaro. If Carlson was there, ah, oh! And I think I saw
Carlson carrying a handful of sand. There's the evidence they were giving each
other secret codes about the dunes and how could and could not cut down a dune.

This is scary and surreptious. We need to investigate this immediately.

Call the Attorney Generals office now!
2:03 pm edt 

Re: Brain Carlson

Carlson is on the conservation Boards their Key contact

Let's make certain that Carlson doesn't have a piece of pizza with Minsky
because that will be the beginning of a breach!

If only Brian Carlson was himself ethical in his dealings. then, maybe then, we
could take this allegation seriously.
1:55 pm edt 

Provincetown Public Library - Board of Trustees -Open Law Meeting

Is it true that the library director  Cheryl Napsha has filed a
complaint against her own trustees for violating open meeting law?  What on
earth is going on there????
12:35 pm edt 

FinCom Letter to Brian Carlson Et Al - Open Meeting Law
FinComtoBrianCarlson_1.jpgFinComtoBrianCarlson_2.jpg
10:41 am edt 

Re: Brian Carlson

"I think the key link was not the budget but food and drink. You just
don't go to George's to plot the nest meeting. You go to unwind from the meeting
you just experienced.

what's next? An ethics patrol surveing, analyzing and deciphering every group at
George's and every group at the Pig and elsewhere for quorum violations? then
every retirement party would involve four to five violations for alleged
breaches of the Open Meeting Law."

The Office of Campaign and Finance may see it your way, but maybe not. The point
is not the intention of why they got together, but what they did when they got
together.  If they discussed the subjects that are the normal responsibilities
of the committee, then that is against the law no matter why they went into
George's.

A casual meeting at a social gathering that does not include discussing the
normal business of the committee is not a violation.  The entire committee could
be at the Pig at one time and not violate the law as long as they did not
discuss committee business.  That is the entire point of the law.  To be sure
that all the appropriate duties of a board are done in the open according to the
rules.
9:59 am edt 

Brian Carlson and FinCom

We'll all see how honest and trustworthy Mr. Carlson is within due time.  Let's
all see how the law abiding town employee tries to get out of his own wrong
acts. Hearsay means nothing but pictures and signatures tell a thousand words.
Then lets see if we all put our trust in someone who has skeletons in their own
closet. Unless of course, the skeleton never pops out then the town wins again!
9:50 am edt 

Re: Brian Carlson

The town moderator has blasted those who try to tell the finance
committee what to do.  I don't know Mr. Carlson  but he probably didn't feel he
could go up to them and tell them he thought they were violating the open
meeting law.
9:49 am edt 

Clarence, What's up???

You posted a few days ago that peoples voices should be heard and it should all
be able to spill out here on the pages of MYPACC. What gives? I posted something
regarding the makup of the fincom and you censor it? What happened to freedom to
express ones thoughts and all about glass houses? Pick one side of the street my
friend. What I posted wasn't untrue.
9:45 am edt 

Municipal Parking Lot

I agree that stopping the practice of town employees being assigned
free parking spots at Ryder Street.

To propose that a select few be excluded from being required to park at
locations other than MPL is ridiculous.  Either we ALL schlep to the satellite
parking lots, or NONE of us does.  End of story!
9:44 am edt 

Banner:
 
FinCom accused of violation for quorum at pizza joint

By Ann Wood BANNER STAFF

PROVINCETOWN — Brian Carlson filed a complaint with the town on March 12 that accuses the finance committee of violating the state’s open meeting law when five members gathered at George’s Pizza in February without publically posting it as a meeting.

On Monday night the finance committee, led by Raphael Richter, voted to support sending the complaint to the Attorney General’s Office for review.

It did not vote on any further action, however, because FinCom chair Mike Canizales said Tuesday that the issue of “spontaneous social gatherings” has come up before and both town counsel and the Attorney General’s Office have determined that they do not constitute violations.

The finance committee had 14 days to respond to the complaint and send a copy of it, along with a description of any action it took, to the Attorney General’s Office. If the person who has brought the complaint is not satisfied with the action taken by the public body, he or she may file a complaint with the Attorney General.

Carlson, who is the town’s health and environmental affairs manager, filed the complaint with the town as an individual, not as an employee. It states that on Feb. 11 of this year, he saw finance committee members Catherine Russo, Duane Steele, Clarence Walker, Michael Canizales and Stanley Sikorski gather at George’s Pizza. They were discussing matters relevant to the finance committee, he wrote.

“I witnessed five members of the finance committee, the town moderator [Mary-Jo Avellar, who is married to Steele and appoints FinCom members] and another member of the public whom I do not know all sitting together at one table. There was a budget binder open and out on the table. There were several witnesses to this meeting. I did overhear them discussing the budget for the services of town counsel,” Carlson wrote in the complaint. “If this alleged violation is found to be true I want it on the record that the finance committee was in violation of the open meeting law and for proper posting of meetings to be enforced.”

Carlson said on Tuesday that he has not yet received the finance committee’s response, which he will study before deciding whether he will file the complaint with the Attorney General’s Office.

If he does file it, and the attorney general has “reasonable cause to believe that the open meeting law has been violated intentionally,” it may hold a hearing to determine whether the committee, its members or both were responsible for the violation and could impose a civil penalty of up to $1,000 for each violation.

Avellar was indignant about the complaint, and told the FinCom that she has been accused of such things before but has always been cleared. She added that board members “historically” go out together after long board meetings.

Later on Monday evening, at a joint meeting between the board of selectmen and the finance committee, the FinCom upped the money it will recommend Town Meeting approve in the operating budget for legal fees — from $240,000 to the selectmen’s recommended $251,000 — citing Carlson’s complaint and others against the town.

“I’d like the town manager to step up and get his staff to knock it off,” Canizales said, adding that employees and the public should be educated about the “cumulative cost of all this activity.”

Avellar agreed.

“I am so distressed that this is coming forward once again to waste the taxpayers’ money,” she said. “It undermines the credibility of all the boards.”

Sharon Lynn, the former town manager, said in October that each complaint costs $500 for town counsel’s response. The Attorney General’s Office made 13 determinations about complaints brought against the town between September 2012 and January of this year. Only four times did the complainant prevail.

Sikorski asked whether the town could recoup its legal fees if the committee is found innocent of the charges, and selectmen chair Elaine Anderson thought that it is worth looking into.

“It would curtail things. That’s for sure,” she said.

Carlson said in the complaint that it’s not personal.

“I feel obligated to report this properly and do not intend this action as any disrespect to any individual or group,” he wrote.
9:41 am edt 

Wednesday, March 26, 2014

Change the Zoning Law Back to What is Was

Let it be 200 sq [2000 cu] feet that can be moved instead of the selfish Jonathan Saneiko
change to make it 750 sq [cu] feet. this is all about Saneiko wanting to make David
Mayo's lot next to Saneiko's unbuildable. Saneiko wants the luxury of having no
houses next to him but he doesn't want to pay for it. Buy the land if you don't
want your view disturbed. Don't go change the Zoning Bylaws and make any home
owner impossible to add a garage or make changes to their land.

This is not about developers. This is about Jonatahn Saneiko and his selfish
ways to keep the land abutting his "development"--and he is adding even more
buildings--free of neighbors.

He had the town pay for the Saneiko Garden--a piece of land his mother had
wanted donated to the town--and he got $250,000 CPA monies for this. Now he
wants to "take" the $350,000 from David Mayo and keep this land like another
Saneiko Garden so he can stroll and hike and have no house built there.

It is selfish and if the town goes along with this, they will be foolish. Call
it for what it is: selfish and hurting all home owners.
11:43 pm edt 

Banning Town Residents from the MacMillan Parking Lot is a Bad Idea

this is poor thinking. what should be done is ban town employees from parking in
the Ryder Street lot. that should be open to all and not held sacred for them.
they should park in the MacMillan Parking lot and then people could park and
shop along town hall and park and do town business especially when, as soon will
happen, parking on commercial Street will be banned. all but for a few days
11:39 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson

"Brian is an employee of the town and must have some idea of the financial
impact of leveling a "VIOLATION OF OPEN MEETING LAW" complaint against fellow
town board/committee members. I am sure if he had just mentioned to the FinCom
members at Georges the fact that to the geneal public it might look like they
were conducting an official meeting, the group would have changed their topic of
conversation. It is difficult to understand what Brian is attempting to
accomplish by his frivilous actions, but he certainly is not putting the best
interests of the town in perspective."


Wake up. Carlson is the health and conservation agent from the town, an employee
and not a fellow member of any committee or board. By changing the conversation,
that doesn't mean the meeting is in the clear. It's illegal. Get it? The board
can't meet outside of the open public and have discussions regarding official
business. And Carlson IS putting the best interests of the town first. He's
trying to keep the process clean and fair and transparent. But hey, what could
anyone expect of a committee                                                                  
                                                                                                             
11:38 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library - Trustee

Who are the two people that severed ties with the Library?  And why?

Lord...they're dropping like flies at that lace!  What's going n?
11:34 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson

I'm sure if any of the cabal's people he "works for" had done
something he felt would be perceived as not kosher, he would have said
something, perhaps even in jest, but to let them know that it wasn't
appropriate.  By doing what he did, he went for the jugular.  Obviously, he
feels those at George's that night don't deserve the same coddling as those
mentioned above.
11:33 pm edt 

Provincetown Public Library - Trustee
   
Yes.  Ann Packard resigned from library trustees, but the chair of the
trustees has been consulting by phone with                           still has
her       hands in Ptown politics.
11:28 pm edt 

Brian Carlson

"Brian is an employee of the town and must have some idea of the
financial impact of leveling a "VIOLATION OF OPEN MEETING LAW" complaint against
fellow town board/committee members. . . ."


Do we get to decide who has rights and who doesn't?

A member of the FinCom filed a lawsuit against the Historic District Commission. 
The town won that lawsuit.  I have no idea how much it costs the town to defend
it, but did that individual have a right to file legal action?

Another member of the public filed an open records request for all the e-mails
of a committee member.  I've heard it costs the town quite a bit to have
attorneys review the records and from everything we've seen so far they didn't
find anything.  Did that individual have a right to file the records request?

Who are we to decide who may or may not take an action that may cost the town
some money?
11:22 pm edt 

Paging Nonsense News
 
Sheee's back!
New gender identity or maybe a literary nod to George Eliot. BUT same wacked out
BS.. Candyland is sweet again.
9:31 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson

Why would they need to "change their topic of conversation" if they
weren't violating the Open Meeting Law?
9:29 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson

If You feel Paranoic then You See Any Gathering are a Threat

I think the key link was not the budget but food and drink. You just don't go to
George's to plot the nest meeting. You go to unwind from the meeting you just
experienced.

what's next? An ethics patrol surveing, analyzing and deciphering every group at
George's and every group at the Pig and elsewhere for quorum violations? then
every retirement party would involve four to five violations for alleged
breaches of the Open Meeting Law.

9:26 pm edt 

Provincetown Public Library Trustee

Library Board of Trustee resigns!  High profile supporter throws in
the towel!  What is next!
1:40 pm edt 

Re: Question

"Is George Hutton the new screen name for Candy..."


I heard it was the new screen name for a guy named Richard Rogers.  Never heard
of him, but heard he lives near DC.
1:37 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson

Brian is an employee of the town and must have some idea of the financial impact
of leveling a "VIOLATION OF OPEN MEETING LAW" complaint against fellow town
board/committee members. I am sure if he had just mentioned to the FinCom
members at Georges the fact that to the geneal public it might look like they were
conducting an official meeting, the group would have changed their topic of
conversation. It is difficult to understand what Brian is attempting to
accomplish by his frivilous actions, but he certainly is nnot putting the best
interests of the town in perspective.
1:32 pm edt 

Tuesday, March 25, 2014

Question

Is George Hutton the new screen name for Candy... The canned sounding and
scripted back and forth question and answer style on Candyland is just like
Candy herself.
7:26 pm edt 

Re: Town Manager

RE "I'm sorry, I can't be bothered to list off the hundreds the
blowhards of the past (Pilgrims) and present (oh please) that have steered
Provincetown (and the Indians) to near fatal extinction. What I can tell you is that the list would go
waaaayyyyy beyond four 'flighty' gals."



"Near fatal extinction?"   I was not aware of any other kind.  As far as I know
extinction is always fatal.
2:21 pm edt 

Re: Obfuscation?

That's a Funny!

Thanks for the "obviscation" posting. thanks for the laugh. I enjoyed this so
much.
1:05 pm edt 

Re: Obfuscation?

Maybe that is what Brian Carlson did but it is strangely worded. Obviscation
reigns or maybe obviscation rains! Maybe then or than, perhaps affected or
effected, whatever sir--write on--or maybe right on!
12:41 pm edt 

Conspiracies and Illegal Actions

The truths will reveal themselves because signatures tell all.
10:48 am edt 

Stop the Foolishness!

"Brian Carlson and who else? Did someone say that Sean Harrington,
once the blow heart of FinCom is now on the theater board with Carlson/ and is
there another person who worked with Brian Carlson on a board? Who is the chair
of the board of Health Board? Is that who is on the Board of the Provincetown
Theater? I was not sure. Can someone let me know who is on that board"



"Blow heart"?

Does being on a board with someone automatically make you that person's ally? 
Of course not, we have all worked with people that we can't stand to be near. 
Stop with the foolish searching for conspiracies. I once was in the Stop & Shop
with Sharon.  Does that make me her ally? I hope not, because never was.
10:05 am edt 

Repost Request

Would You Repost the Equilateral Triangle
I started to read it and then it was gone. thanks.
9:46 am edt 

Re: Town Manager

"I'm sorry, I can't be bothered to list off the hundreds the blowhards of the
past (Pilgrims) and present (oh please) that have steered Provincetown (and the
Indians) to near fatal extinction. What I can tell you is that the list would go
waaaayyyyy beyond four 'flighty' gals."


Um.......and who asked???

9:45 am edt 

Re: Cape Cob Commission

CAPE COD COMMISSION CAUSED WASTEWATER CRISIS

If one briefly visits the history section of the Cape Cod Commission website,
then is quickly learned the CCC emphatically claims that it is the direct
successor to the Cape Cod Planning and Economic Development Council (CCPEDC).
One then need only go the CCC website area pertaining to the current 208 Water
Quality Plan Update process which is presently underway to learn that the CCPEDC
conducted a similar update back in 1978andthat was the last time such a process
took place. The problem is that the 208 Water Quality Plan Update is mandated by
federal law to be conducted every ten years, NOT every 35 years. Since the CCC
itself clearly states in writing that it is the direct successor agency to the
CCPEDC, then it was of course the unquestionable legal responsibility of the
Cape Cod Commission to conduct a 208 Water Quality Plan Update (as required by
federal law) every ten years, which at a minimum means it should at least have
been carried out by the CCC in both 1998 and !
2008 .

The Cape Cod Commission did NOT adhere to its direct responsibility as required
by federal regulations. The CCC dropped the ball, and failed us, the residents
of Cape Cod. Moreover, because it did not conduct the legally required 208 Water
Quality Plan Update during all of those years, then the nitrogen loading problem
and wastewater crisis on Cape Cod grew significantly worse. This can lead to
only one logical conclusion, the Cape Cod Commission itself is at least
partially responsible for creating the dire ecological crisis which we now find
ourselves.

The end result of all this is that last year the CCC was awarded a $3.35 million
state grant to finally conduct a 208 Water Quality Management Plan Update that
they had dragged their feet on for decades. They got millions of dollars for
studying and addressing ways to help mitigate the Cape Cod wastewater pollution
problem that they are to a large extent directly responsible for causing in the
first place! It is nothing short of unbelievable that we are trusting our
environmental future to such an irresponsible and perhaps even negligent county
government agency like the Cape Cod Commission!
9:42 am edt 

Hey Mr. Carlson

Since you've very recently shown such a wonderful commitment to our town
government following the letter of the law, I fully expect you (of course, as a
private citizen) to denounce every single noncompliance instance that you have
observed at Town Hall, such as when some individuals are allowed to pay much
less than others, or get permission to do things they shouldn't be doing, or are
allowed to do certain things without proper prior approvals...

I await to hear about your indignation and complaint filing about all of these
irregularities, Mr. Carlson.
9:27 am edt 

Monday, March 24, 2014

Who is on What Board?
 
Brian Carlson and who else? Did someone say that Sean Harrington, once the blow
heart of FinCom is now on the theater board with Carlson/ and is there another
person who worked with Brian Carlson on a board? Who is the chair of the board
of Health Board? Is that who is on the Board of the Provincetown Theater? I was
not sure. Can someone let me know who is on that board
11:08 pm edt 

Brian Carlson the Standard of Integrity?

Oh, Please!

I think not. Oh, he was offended that the blue books were at a table at George's.
What a sham, Brian. What a pretense you are. Not upright, at all.

This is a folly and you are being used as perhaps you have been used many times
in the past. How sad that you have grabbed the worm and the hook that is now
pulling you down under.
11:05 pm edt 

Re: New Zoning Bylaw - Needs Amending

**(5). All new construction or additions or any excavation, land removal or
earth moving of more than 750 cubic yards that will alter the topography from
natural grade, whether or not subject to a building permit**

First, whoever posted 20'x50'x20' = 2000 cubic feet is wrong. The answer to your
equation is 20,000 cubic feet and that equals around 740 cubic yards or roughly
the definition that exists. The bylaw, if you read it carefully and apply it, is
very open ended and leaves a lot to interpretation. Even if zero material leaves
your property, you need a special permit and review under this bylaw for simply
leveling off a lot by moving earth around?
This section of the bylaw should be removed, not altered.
8:45 pm edt 

Re: FinCom (budgets)

Well if you really WERE watching you'd have noticed that most of the budgets
this year for the departments *did not change* or were very reasonable in what
they each were asking for. So there wasn't a lot of discussion. I love people
who comment and are either lying about watching the video/meeting or
deliberately obfuscating what went on. Save the comments for when we argue about
something really good, like the fact that we should indefinitely put a new
police station off and, instead, just fix the one we have for a few years to
catch up with what's about to happen as the budget goes forward. And the new
lawsuits. Then go back and tell me how good the last town manager and police
chief were, along with everyone that supported them.
8:31 pm edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

"And I can say that with a clear conscience because
the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy fails to consider the consequences of its
iconoclastic, pusillanimous agendas. That's just a fancy way of saying that the
Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy says that it needs a little more time to clean
up its act. As far as I'm concerned, the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy's time
has run out. Stand with me, be honest with me, and help me introduce an
important, but underrepresented, angle on the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy's
incomprehensible dissertations, and together we'll get people to sign a petition
to limit its ability to cause trouble. We'll follow through on the critical work
that has already begun. I'm counting on you. Thanks for reading this.
7:41 pm edt"


Ok I'll bite.  is this a 'knock knock joke'?  I might respond to your eloquent,
but too long 'letter', if I knew who you are.  But i don't so I won't.  weird
stuff indeed.
8:27 pm edt 

Re: Fincom

"And people want a break from issues. they hardly go there to discuss
issues. Wrong, wrong interpretation of the open meeting law. It does not say you
can't be with friends after a meeting."


Of course you can be with friends after a meeting, but if those friends just
happen to be all members of the same board they should not discuss the matters
that fall within the board's responsibilities. It is pretty simple.  we all want
transparency.  we don't want decision made out of public view.  So we have a law
against it.  A group that comprises a quorum of a board cannot get together and
discuss the business of the board.  period.  No matter that they are friends. It
is against the law and even our wonderful FinCom is not above the law( even
though they may think so)
8:25 pm edt 

Mister Webmaster Thru You to the Previous Poster

Actually 20'x50'x20'= 20,000 cubic ft. The actual unit of measurement in question is Cubic Yards.
1 cubic yard = 3'x3'x3' = 27 cubic ft.
8:11 pm edt 

Re: New Zoning Bylaw - Needs Amending

I was at that meeting.  Our DPW director (now retired) got up and
confirmed the number of trucks full of soil.  2000 cubic feet is 20x50x20.  That
is huge and should trigger planning review.  I will vote against this article.
7:40 pm edt 

New Zoning Bylaw - Needs Amending

A recently introduced amendment is hurting our residents and the town, we need to correct this situation at the next town meeting on April 7th.

The Provincetown Planning Board introduced a number of new zoning bylaws during the Oct. 2013 Special Town Meeting, one of which was the introduction of a 2000 cubic yard excavation limit. Our town officials came up with the 2000 yd. limit after careful research by a committee dedicated to defining an effective, but fair excavation limit. The idea behind implementing the 2000 cu. Yd. limit was to give Provincetown greater insight and control over larger development projects.

The Oct. 2013 Special Town Meeting ran over time and the 2000 yd. limit was one of the last items on the agenda. May attendees left before the new limit was introduced. During the very late presentation (after 10:00 PM) of the new 2000 yd. limit one of our residents introduced an amendment to further reduce this limit of 2000 cu. Yd. by 65% to 750 cu. yds. This new and very restrictive amendment was justified with “facts” that were not corroborated by engineers or anyone

else. No one had a chance to evaluate the impact of such a drastic change on the town or property owners. A vote was taken and the amendment was voted down. After the vote, more attendees left the meeting, little more than a hundred people remained. Barely a quorum. More discussion followed, again no corroborated information was introduced, but some very passionate, if not entirely accurate, statements about the need for such a severe restriction were made by the proponent. A recount was requested and this time the 750 cu. yd. amendment passed by a very slim margin.


After six months of reflection it's obvious that the 750 cu. yd. limit does not serve Provincetown nor our property owners well. This limit robs undeveloped land owners of their equity and does not offer any benefits to the town. In fact it hurts the town by reducing possible new housing and incremental property tax revenue.


Why do we need to change the 750 cubic yard limit back to 2000 cubic yards:


1. It is too restrictive for building new houses and redeveloping existing homes.

- 750 limit stops new projects or restricts them to small houses not suitable for families and year round living

2. Special permit is too risky because a building project can be challenged and stopped by 3rdparty initiating a frivolous laws suit at any time and tied up for years in litigation

3. This excavation limit is not representative of Provincetown’s existing character which is made up of a mix of architectures and building sizes

4. The 750 cubic yard limit robs value/equity from owners of any undeveloped land without a good reason, does not offer a discernable benefit to Provincetown

5. It hurts Provincetown Financially by reducing potential new property tax revenue generated by new houses

6. The 750 limit was voted in by approximately 65-70 people which is not a representative sample of our approx. 3,000 person population

7. 750 amendment was justified at the Oct. town meeting with erroneous examples which confused people at the time they were making a critical decision

8. 750 amendment and its impact were not studied adequately before being accepted


9. Stifles the development of badly needed housing


Call to action:

1.  Please distribute this e-mail to your friends and other concerned citizens

 2.  Please come to the town meeting and support this important change with your vote

- to bring back the more reasonable 2000 cubic yard Limit, please refer to highlighted section in Article 4 below

3.
 Get your friends to come to the town meeting and vote

4.    We can and should change this. It’s hurting us and our town.


Article __:
Zoning By-law Amendment: Site Plan Review

To see if the Town will vote to amend the Provincetown Zoning Bylaw, Article 4, Sections 4015 as follows:


4015. Site plan Review bySpecial Permit

a. The following developments shall require SitePlan Review by Special Permit by the Planning Board:

(1) developments consisting of the aggregateof residential units that will result in four or more residential units on any parcel;

(2).developments consisting of more than 2,000 square feet of new commercial area;

(3).development of properties consisting of an existing or proposed drive-through facility or raised loading dock;

(4).development of commercial properties that have curb cuts greater than 25% of
their existing or proposed streetfrontage;

(5). All new construction or additions or any excavation, land removal or earth moving of
more than 7502000 cubic yards that will alter the topography from natural grade, whether or not subject to a building permit;

EXAMPLE OF WHAT SIZE HOUSE CAN BE BUILT ON A 750 CUBIC YD. foundation. Other critical excavation not included
- Excavation for septic system not included
- Excavation for driveway & utilities access not included
- Excavation for garage, landscaping, more, not included

750cuyd.jpg
PROVINCETOWN UNDEVELOPED LAND SHOWN AS BLACK SHADED LOTS BELOW
- 80% of Provincetown dedicated to National Seashore
- 20% left for Provincetown proper
- Less than 5% of Provincetown proper left for development, mostly privately owned
- Provincetown character already baked in, development of remaining land will not change the town character or ambiance
- We do not need to drastically restrict development of the few remaining few private building lots
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5:00 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson vs FinCom

I can't believe the obviscation here. Mr Carlson files a valid
complaint that must be looked into and now instead of focusing on the alleged
violation he is personally vilified.I don't think this took place when others
accused Austin or Jaren. Our rights should not be taken away in this manor. As
Dieter recently said The law is the law. When 5 or 6 people from the same board
meet by chance or not it does have the appearance of a violation and any citizen
should have the right to petition the authorities to investigate.This is nasty
intimidation to everyone. It also appears that some want to ax everyone hired
under Lynne. This is what will really cost us dearly.
4:49 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

Re: "Who would question the Finance Committee for being Financial Watch
Dogs? That's exactly who they are & what they're supposed to be! Their mission
is to "nickle & dime" all budgets  via every line item and any other financial
expenditures for the Town!Town Counsel's budget is excessive because Depts. use
it willy. . ."


I watch the budget meetings every year to understand where we are spending our
money.  The Finance Committee seems to have completely ignored the Watch Dog
role this year.  Usually I watch meetings all of February, this year only two
meetings dealt with the budget.  I was completely stunned when they said they
were done with the budgets after may 8 hours at most.

I didn't see any evidence of "nickel & dime" efforts on the budget.  I have no
idea what to think of it except it seems they didn't really do their one job
they are assigned.
4:41 pm edt 

Re: Police Department

Dear Poster asking for new hires at the Police dept to be put off
indefinitely.  NOT happening.  The acting chief is sending a dispatcher to the
police academy so she can become a cop.  Yup.  Guess who gets the bill to send
her to the police academy instead of hiring someone already a cop? WE ALL DO!
Cha-ching!$!$!
4:37 pm edt 

Re: Law Suits

Another law suit. ??? Thank You Sharon.
4:32 pm edt 

Re: Law Suits

"I dont know who is or was protecting who in the old department
because we heard theres a good possibility another law suit is forthcoming.Where is it listed on
how much money our tax dollars have been spent to date on legal fees for law
suits."
 


oh it has already come. Oh and I have heard from a little birdie-his partner is filing another
one as his LLC as a plaintiff.
4:29 pm edt 

Re: Town Manager

I'm sorry, I can't be bothered to list off the hundreds the blowhards of the
past (Pilgrims) and present (oh please) that have steered Provincetown (and the
Indians) to near fatal extinction. What I can tell you is that the list would go
waaaayyyyy beyond four 'flighty' gals.
4:23 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson vs FinCom

If you are wondering why his attack? He is one of Ann's useless tools. Not
too alert.
11:48 am edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

CAPE COD COMMISSION NON-TRANSPARENCY

THE CAPE COD COMMISSION IS NOT TRANSPARENT OR ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PEOPLE!

As undeniably exhibited by its own official policies, the Cape Cod Commission's
bloated staff of red tape inclined bureaucrats are inanely, but officially, in
charge of the representatives of the Cape Cod Commission governing structure in
that all communications are required by policy to first be filtered through them
by official policy. This is excessive government control and censorship at its
worst!

Please view the following official CCC document, which is the Official
Communication Policy for Cape Cod Commission Representatives -
http://www.capecodcommission.org/resources/administration/CCC-ComPolicy-Final061208.doc

11:41 am edt 

Re: Town Manager

"... influenced a whole town...or a few of the
flighty gals were taken in by her ..."



Sarah Peake, Michelle Couture, Cheryl Andrews

Case Closed!
11:39 am edt 

Regulatory Boards

Some people on Regulatory Boards have short memories! They are casting
stones when they themselves are guilty of the very things they are charging
others for doing!
11:19 am edt 

MYPACC - Shout Out!

"Even if it were only one person posting, their voice would not be
censored. MYPACC is founded on the principle of "The Weight of being will win
the day".



Yeah, right.  We know the webmaster deletes inputs he doesn't like, and has from
the beginning.  Too late to deny it now.
11:17 am edt 

Brian Carlson vs FinCom

"Sean Harrington and Brain Carlson on the same board. Hope they post
their after meeting agendas. Maybe we now understand why Brian Carlson went
against FinCom and filed a complaint. Sean Harrington wasn't too happy with
FinCom and recently resigned. Now someone's causing trouble for FinCom."



Wrong. very wrong.  If the FinCom Violated the law then it caused it's own
trouble. Some members have become very quick to point out wrongdoing on the part
of other, but seem to think that they can do as they please and do not want to
be questioned.
11:15 am edt 

Sunday, March 23, 2014

FinCom

Who would question the Finance Committee for being Financial Watch
Dogs? That's exactly who they are & what they're supposed to be! Their mission
is to "nickle & dime" all budgets  via every line item and any other financial
expenditures for the Town!Town Counsel's budget is excessive because Depts.use
it willy nilly! Use of Town Counsel should be cleared with Fin Com  in order to
hold that budget down!
10:47 pm edt 

Johnathan Sinaiko


Sinaiko has been doing         work for years because he is a "townie"
and doesn't' need to follow the rules.  That includes        sewer hookups
while he was chair of the water and sewer board.  Whatever he does, it is all
about him all the time.  We should have called his bluff and let him make his
mother's garden a parking lot.  Instead we lined his pockets with $250,000.

10:45 pm edt 

Illegal Building

I doubt someone would be building without proper permits because the town has
enforcement laws.Does everything require a permit? Maybe the propery owner is
making changes that does not reqire a permit.
9:58 pm edt 

Sometimes Provincetown Voice Should Practice Less is More

Some on this post dominate and control and post and post and add threads after
threads. Take a break. go back on vacation. It is too much of one person and too
much one  voice. Shouldn't it be Provincetown Voices--with an "s"?

Just because ideas come into someone's heads it doesn't mean it should be
posted. Take a break.
9:57 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson


"Your post is not even worth glancing at when you start with misinformation.
Morgan is maternity leave, but Carlson is the Heath agent, get the facts
straight."


The town website lists these names and their positions. You tell me.

Brian Carlson, M.S., R.S.
Health & Environmental Affairs Manager

Morgan Clark, M.P.P.
Public Health & Safety Officer
9:55 pm edt 

Let Me Add Another Co-conspirator - Brian Carlson Et Al

Look at he the Provincetown Theater's Board of directors. Who is oddly the
P)resident? no other than Brian Carlson. then who else is on the board? Sean
Harrington who was an opposition to everyone on the Finance Committee when he
was recently an alternate. and then who else? mark Phillips. really? He is the
Chair of the board of health Committee and Brain Carlson is the town liason and
more to this Board.

Connect these people and then add the link of Dan Hoort and then Jeff Jaran and
you have a rather odd if not problematic and questionable liason.
9:50 pm edt 

Jonathan Sinaiko

I find it amusing that Jonathan Sinaiko is pushing for more
regulations for the Planning and Building departments.  How about that studio he
owns, right on Bradford that he is renovating without any permit?  New plumbing? 
New windows?  No Permit!  He is already trying to rent it for the season.  How
about all of his other buildings he renovated without building permits? 
Interesting
9:38 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson

According to Sharon Lynn, Brian Carlson's Greatest Asset.......
...was that he was cute and good looking. she viewed this and publicly stated this.
is this what a health agent should be? Why should candy-for-the-eyes have
anything to do with salary increases and hiring?
9:34 pm edt 

What's is the Logic Behind BoS Decisions

BOS ANSWER ABOUT SELLING BUILDINGS CHEAP

They are letting the buildings go so cheap because it may take a little longer
to get a reasonable offer and they want to get the money to off set the cost of
the new unreasonably big police station as quick as they can. They seem to think
that everybody in this town are idiots and cant see what they are up to. There
are at least three BOS members that want their names on the plaque so bad at the
new station that they are willing to cost the tax payers of this town millions.
Not just in lost income from the sale of these town properties but also in the
exorbitantly high cost of a police station twice the size that this town needs.

     GIVE US SOME CREDIT!!!
9:27 pm edt 

Police Department

I understand there is an opening in the police department. I hope the
selectman hold off filling that position and others until a new Town Manger is
named. save money and make the new town manger responsible for any new hires.
9:23 pm edt 

Re: Town Manager

To anyone from the Town Manager Search Committee who happens to be reading I
think you need to ask all candidates one question: "How do you feel about
cleaning out political appointees when you take office?" Given what I've been
reading lately on Provincetown pages including this one, it seems like we need a
fresh Spring cleaning at Town Hall. Sweep out the old and in with the new!
Enough with entitled employees who think nothing of flouting rules or making
silly complaints that cost the town money. And what's with David Gardner? No
stones? He can't discipline his troops now and let's this stupidity go on? Let's
get rid of most of them and give the jobs to good, decent people who need them,
not old hacks who are just interested in themselves or causing trouble.
9:12 pm edt 

Re "Attacking Dan Hoort"

"The law according to Dieter.  Just because you don"t like someone doesn't mean
you can (or THINK you can) tell them what to do.  If Hoort wants to run for an
office he is legally entitled to run for and you don't like it - don't vote for
him.  Your childish rants and vindictive mission to get him only make you look
small."


Thank you for your learned, original, fact-filled and entertaining post. 
Actually, the law is according to the LAW.  I didn't write it, but it DOES tell
us what to do.  Everyone is entitled -- indeed encouraged -- to read it for
themselves, and to use facts, not tired rhetoric, to prove me wrong.

I have nothing against Dan Hoort as a person, and have nothing to gain by
standing up for what is right.  My "mission", as you call it, is against
corruption of public office, and if not for HIS actions that repeatedly fit that
bill, he wouldn't be on anyone's radar at all.  Everyone was getting along
swimmingly until he and his partner (spouse?) announced their intention to
violate state law in order to avenge his personal grudges.  There is nothing
smaller than Hoort placing his own interests ahead of the best interests of the
Town, and we will ALL wind up paying for his petulant behavior.  He continues to
demonstrate that he is a liability to this Town.

It's funny, NOT ONCE has anyone credibly explained how Hoort is "legally
entitled to run".  Who said so?  Oh, that's right, Dan Hoort said so.  Isn't
that the same guy who falsely claimed that he was "discriminated" against when a
former federal judge spoke against his fallen idols at a personnel board
meeting?  Yup, there's a man with sound legal judgment, alright.  That's why he
checked with the Ethics Commission to see if he can run, when the ethics laws
aren't even germane to the issues until AFTER he would be elected.  By that
time, Hoort will ALREADY have violated state law, simply by taking a seat on
that board.

Let me break down, one last time, in small, bite-sized chunks, why he CANNOT
legally be a member of the Charter Enforcement Commission (CEC).

1)  Section 3-4-3 of the Town's Charter -- which, by the way, is STATE LAW --
says, "A paid town employee with supervisory duties SHALL NOT BE A MEMBER of a
town board which is IN ANY WAY RELATED TO HIS EMPLOYMENT during his or her term
of office or for at least one year after leaving office." (emphasis added)

2)  Under Section 5-2-3 of the Charter (et seq.), the CEC has oversight and
enforcement power over "... the Finance Committee, or members of those
committees."

3)  Dan Hoort is a paid town employee, and in his capacity as Director of
Finance, he supervises the Finance Department, and is the Town's staff liaison
and advisor to the Finance Committee.

It's as simple as 1-2-3.  If Hoort doesn't understand these laws -- some of the
Charter's simplest of fundamentals -- then he has no business interpreting and
enforcing its complexities.

Besides the Moderator, the Charter Enforcement Commission is the only town
entity with powers of oversight and enforcement against the Finance Committee, a
board which is DIRECTLY related to Hoort's employment.  These Charter provisions
are consistent with the legal doctrine of "incompatibility of office".  As they
are designed to do, they PROHIBIT Mr. Hoort from having oversight against a
board that he advises.

I defy you or anyone else to prove otherwise -- failing that, your "legally
entitled to run" mantra is just noise.

At least MY integrity is fully intact, which is so much more than can be said
for Mr Hoort.

-- Dieter Groll
9:08 pm edt 

It is an Equilateral Triangle We Are Dealing With

Brian Carlson, Jeff Jaran and Dan Hoort. may help explain why Brian Carlson is
attempting to undermine fincom, something surely Dan Hoort attempted to do the
first meeting that this new board met. It was at this meeting that Austin Knight
and Dan Hoort both attempted to curtail and put FinCom "in their place."

Maybe Brian Carlson is delivering meals and drink to Jeff Jaran whenever he is
living at the Ice House. A delivery boy for Jaran and then a delivery  boy for
Dan Hoort. Hoort needs someone else to help him be the attack dog. so he gets a
French Poodle to do his bidding!

But back to the equilateral triangle. Helps explain a new configuration set to
do its own work and it is not for the good of the town. It is for their own s
elf-serving needs and wants.

Remember that Jeff Jaran is still here and is still possibly Chief--if his
mediation goes in his favor and/or if Superior Court later rules in his favor.
He is not totally finished. this everyone should keep in mind.
9:03 pm edt 

Town Manager Right, Left and Center

I dont know who is or was protecting who in the old department because we heard
theres a good possibility another law suit is forthcoming.Where is it listed on
how much money our tax dollars have been spent to date on legal fees for law
suits.
9:00 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson and Finance Director Dan Hoort Need to be Fired

":Let's put to rest the Lynn hires and start a new.  These public employees
need to step in line."


That would be called retaliation against either of them.   Think you got a legal
mess and financial liabilities for the past, try firing someone to retaliate for
their blowing the whistle.  Both of them would win and win big.
8:52 pm edt 

Re: Town Manager

'... influenced a whole town...or a few of the
flighty gals were taken in by her ...'



Flighty gals and blowhard boys! I've noticed several posts blaming women in
leadership (horrors!) for Provincetown's woes. You are sadly blinded sir, and I
have grown weary of your babble. Kindly shut up.
8:42 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson

"First off, he's the interim health agent. The official agent is on maturnity
leave."



Your post is not even worth glancing at when you start with misinformation.
Morgan is maternity leave, but Carlson is the Heath agent, get the facts
straight.
9:52 am edt 

Re: Town Manager

Leave things that way they are? David Gardner was Sharon's puppet who
is overwhelmed cleaning up here various messes and neglect, furthermore he
doesn't want the job and has been very clear about that. He also is protecting
his old department - left, right and center.
9:46 am edt 

What's is the Logic Behind BoS Decisions

With all the talk about the need to raise more money for the town it
defies logic that the BOS are going to give away the Community Center and the
Grace Goviea building for considerably less than they are worth.  If the town
needs more money why would it let the Community Center go for 1 million dollars
(or more) less than it is worth?  And for the Grace Goviea building the
developer wants to build several luxury market rate condo units and a few
affordable units.  The developer comes with a low ball offer to the town and
then the town offers to chop several thousand off of the offer.  The developers
offer already had enough profit built in for them to propose the mixed
market-rate and affordable.  Then the BOS offers to let the building go for
hundreds of thousands less.  If the town is facing budget shortfalls it could
easily raise another 1.5 to 2 million dollars from the sale of these 2
properties and still get affordable housing units built in them.  Why would!
  the town give these properties away for millions less than they are worth? 
The town is looking at raising more money by refusing to let town people to park
at the Municipal Parking Lot yet when a developer comes offering money to buy a
property the BOS says, hey, let's take hundreds of thousands less.  For the
Community Center the town is taking at least 1 million dollars less than it is
worth and giving it to the business owner who owns the property next door.
9:03 am edt 

Town Manager

In an effort to be politically correct and innovative, why do we have to shake
things up when they're going well?

David Gardner seems to be doing a good job as acting town manager. Why do we
have to look further? Leave well enough alone!

Seems as if a few have to be "right" all the time. They've never heard of quit
while we're ahead. They thought that Sharon was going to be the 2nd coming for
the town...she wasn't. Sarah Peake influenced a whole town...or a few of the
flighty gals were taken in by her opinion. Folks, hate to tell you, she isn't
the end all, be all.

In my opinion, it's a matter of ego.
8:59 am edt 

Brian Carlson

I understand Carlson is friends with the old Chief, Hoort and
Gardner.....isn't that telling
8:56 am edt 

Food for Thought

While  Driving around town today and taking my dog
for a walk it dawned on me. This town is one beautiful, special place. Just
being here,having the privledge to call ptown my and my partners home is a
blessing. No place in the U.S. has the light, beauty and calmness of ptown. We
all complain about so many things(myself included)-However we should all be so
ever thankful to live on such a special piece of this worlds earth. Just my
opinion. :)
8:54 am edt 

Re: Brian Carlson and Finance Director Dan Hoort

Brian Carlson and Finance Director Dan Hoort need to be fired. Let's
put to rest the Lynn hires and start a new.  These public employees need to step
in line.  The Chief was fired because of his behavior, they should be next.
8:53 am edt 

Its About Glass Houses and Rocks

What does that figure of speech mean?Know something we dont? Come on Clarence,
didn't your mother ever teach you to share.Sounds like youve got something up
your sleeve.
8:52 am edt 

Brian Carlson vs. FinCom

I would say, after reading all of the most recent posts, its time for the
Attorney Generals office to start seriously looking at stepping in and keeping a
very close eye on how Provincetown is operating.It appears there are a lot of
illegal acts, or alleged illegal acts, occurring within the different
departments. Time to stop!
8:49 am edt 

Looks Like Brian Carlson is Posting

And I'm tired of his attempt to legitimate this poor judgment on his part. He
goes on and on and justifies his actions that are pure bull. I can only the
webmaster stops posting these repetitive self-serving postings. it's the same
person over and over again. Please. no more.


Webmaster Comment: Even if it were only one person posting, their voice would not be censored. 

MYPACC is founded on the principle of "The Weight of being will win the day".
That is to say, trust is given to MYPACC's constituents who invariably respond 
with substance and facts. To-date their track record is impeccable.
 
Truth Will Out. Time will tell.

It's about glass houses and rocks.  
12:30 am edt 

Saturday, March 22, 2014

Dear Webmaster

Please reject the Hoorties that continue to defend Carlson's allegations. Let
Hoort post on his own blog and let us have real discussions instead of these
fabricated attacks.

No more hoorties please.


11:37 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson

Am I the Only One to Find this complaint Ridiculous and Rather Childish

blue books, people sitting together at a booth, and ordering food. this is what
we do in Provincetown in throughout the US. This makes no sense to me and it
seems ridiculous. what about a town meeting? do boards have to post that more
than a quorum of each board and each commission is there and may constitute a
breach of the open meeting law if not posted? and if they speak to each other:
another breach.

Maybe brain Carlson should spend more time handling health issues and being in
his office rather than spending town time filing complaints that are frivolous.
Is there something he is afraid of that Fin Com may know or say or do? the
question remains.
11:36 pm edt 

No One Said Geroge's Pizza Was a Charity

They are there and they are open in the winter. They are available after
meetings. it is a place that is friendly and a place to relax.

Sitting at George's Pizza after any meeting does not constitute a breach of the
open meeting law. It just does not. what should people do? Post that they happen
to cross the street and are going to George's? Most people don't know where they
will be after a board or a commission meeting. but Geroge's Pizza is so easy to
go to that many go.

And people want a break from issues. they hardly go there to discuss issues.
Wrong, wrong interpretation of the open meeting law. It does not say you can't
be with friends after a meeting.

11:34 pm edt 

How Interesting! Brian Carlson and Sean Harrington on the Same Board

Sean Harrington and Brain Carlson on the same board. Hope they post their after
meeting agendas. Maybe we now understand why Brian Carlson went against FinCom
and filed a complaint. Sean Harrington wasn't too happy with FinCom and recently
resigned. Now someone's causing trouble for FinCom.

11:32 pm edt 

Brian Carlson did the Right Thing

First off, he's the interim health agent. The official agent is on maturnity
leave.
As far as what he saw at Georges, he saw an illegal act and reported it to the
appropriate authoritys. This scene played out a few years ago with members of
the BOS meeting together at a discussion regarding this blog I believe. No, it
wasn't a chance meeting, it was planned as was this one with the FINCOM. Brian
did it as a private citizen but keep in mind, his department and perhaps his job
could be on the line and and open meeting is where the budget discussions should
happen, not at a bar. he had every right to report it and he did. Better that
than to complain later of what he saw when nothing could be done about it. Fact
is, the FINCOM has gotten WAY to big for its britches lately and they need to
reign it in. Or someone does. (we all know the moderator isn't going to do it)
Of course the BOS can ignore what they recommend as can the public. That's one
way to silence them. They are a watchdog group, not policy makers. They
recommend to support an idea on spending. The !
selectmen have the final say up or down. When the selectmen and the public
realize this, the FINCOM will begin to back down.
11:14 pm edt 

Re: Posted in the Lighthouse

" We could have a part time building commissioner, eliminate the
planner and assistant town manager position,assistant assessor, finance director
and not fill positions in the police department as officers retire."



I'm not very sure that the poster really thought this through, but the idea has
merit and should be explored.  Too frequently some folks like the idea of
spending less but don't have a firm concept of what is "need to have" vs "nice to
have". 

It is not easy to do in a politically charged situation, but it might be
a great idea if we could look seriously at our needs vs what seems easy.
Politicians, the good ones, the bad ones, are spending someone else's money, so
they are not quite as frugal as we might be.
11:00 pm edt 

George's Pizza

I also have seen Clarence, Marcene, Mary Jo, Dwaine, Russo, Canizales, et al at
George's sitting at the same booth after a fincom or BOS meeting.  I'm assuming
it was "spontaneous", but there were binders on the table, and they were
discussing openly some town issues.   Even if it was spontaneous, I do believe
it does not comply with the spirit of the open meeting laws, and they should
make more of an effort to at least sit at different tables so it doesn't appear
that they are meeting without a posted agenda.
10:57 pm edt 

Cape Cod Commission Reps - DRI Decisions

According to a former 6 year long representative to the CCC: "...90% of the
persons who sit on the Cape Cod Commission do NOT bother reading and studying
most of the material presented to them prior to voting on projects that are
Developments of Regional Impact."

Based upon reality, that is the actual way that economic development and
environmental protection decisions for the Cape are being made by the Cape Cod
Commission.
10:55 pm edt 

Re: Quel Grand Politique Dramatique

Perhaps if Sean Patrick Harrington had gotten more on air camera moments, he
would not have left FinCom.

The Provincetown Theatre is fortunate to have provided him a new platform from
which he will get noticed.

10:54 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Violations and Ethics

Let's see if the people filing complaints will take responsibility for their
wrongdoings.
10:52 pm edt 

For Your Serious Consideration - Please Give This a Detailed Read
Peter Petas5:32pm Mar 22
I posted this on the Voice ages ago. Went nowhere fast! :)

Dear Mike,

Thanks for asking me to your meeting. Unfortunately I'll be out of town, but I have put together a bunch of thoughts based on online discussions of affordable housing. This is meant to be broad outline of the issues and hopefully some fodder for discussion. This is, ultimately, though, a matter of public policy that is going to require broad support throughout the community and through all levels of town government. I hope you can bring them all to the table soon.

As we all know, Provincetown has changed pretty dramatically in the last 40 years with the decimation of the fishing industry and the rise of the town as a tourist destination. While population figures are roughly the same from the previous low in 1970 (the 2010 census shows our population at 2,942 compared to 2,911 in 1970), the composition of the year round population is very different. In the late 1960s/early 1970s the high school had about 200 kids (http://www.provincetownhistoryproject.com/browse/view?browseCollection=26). That means 50 kids per class roughly, and that's just in the high school with a peak graduating class in 1975 of 75 seniors. In 1967, there were 691 students enrolled in the school system; today there are 128 and we have no high school. The town, in other words, was affordable enough to sustain enough families to fill the school. As the town became a tourist destination and real estate prices sky-rocketed, many families sold out and moved up Cape. Without a fishing industry, those who stayed were largely in the trades servicing the explosion of condo conversions and the renovations that followed. Taxes rose as assessed values rose further incentivizing more sales and hallowing out the middle income workers. What we are left with year round is that 70% of our housing stock sits mostly vacant in winter and our year-round demographic now skews heavily to seasonal workers who spend the off season either on unemployment or working elsewhere.

These employment trends only seem to be intensifying. In the "Housing Needs Update" prepared recently by John Ryan for the town, he noted that the "average number of local jobs in town stayed the same from 2006-2012 but there was a 13.3% decline in the average number of employed residents." In other words, people with jobs in town are commuting to Provincetown from other communities. This doesn't surprise me. Middle income workers cannot afford to live here. I've enjoyed very much the recent profiles of Police Officers in the Banner, but I've also noted only a few of them actually live here in town. In speaking with a friend who works at Outer Cape, he confirmed that most of the staff lives as far as Wellfleet and Eastham to find affordable year round rentals. Many of our town employees live elsewhere including those who work in Town Hall, the DPW and our schools. State-sponsored affordable housing has been an important component of the development of affordable housing, but many of the potential middle income renters earn too much to qualify for affordable rentals.

Rental housing is becoming increasingly scarce. The same Ryan report noted that from 2000 to 2010, the total number of renter households dropped from 851 to 782. Included in that drop of 68 households is the loss of 32 families. Let's look at the numbers from the Ryan report regarding available rentals. Since 2006, there have been two additions to the town's affordable housing inventory - Province Landing and Shank Painter Road, which together have added a total of 63 new rental units. Each of these developments, according to the Ryan report attracted 8-10 times the number of applicants as apartments available. At the same time, according to the same report citing information from the Assessor's office, there have been 376 condo units permitted since FY 2007: "the vast majority of these units are conversions of small multi-family properties to second homes. These units constitute a not insignificant share of the town's remaining rental stock." And btw, the rentals aren't getting cheaper. The report notes that "the concentration of renters paying more than 35% of their income for rent has gone from 44% in 2000 to 59% in 2010."

In short, Provincetown is suffering from a severe lack of affordable year round rentals for all income levels. This problem affects not only those with lower income but those with moderate and middle income levels as well.

To reverse the trend, the community together must make the decision that being an economically diverse, year-round economy is a vitally important policy goal and that we will use all tools at the town's disposal to make it happen. The goal is to create a virtuous economic circle: if more middle income people live in town, there would be more demand for services, which would lead to more year-round service jobs, which would lead to more demand for professional services, etc. It would be great to see more families and kids in town, the definition I believe of a successful year round community. Our primary school is now certified as part of the International Baccalaureate program and our middle school is also on the road to certification - an amazing accomplishment that is already attracting students and could attract even more families to town if there were affordable places to live. A more diverse year round population would enliven the community and could also make Provincetown more vibrant as an offseason destination for tourists. (I'm not going to address some of the ideas that have been floating around for development of offseason employment, but those are obviously an integral part of this discussion.) We have to think of affordable housing as part of our infrastructure just as you would our sewer system, our paved roads, our waterfront, etc.

So I wanted to bring up an old idea for housing that I think the town should reconsider. In addition to the current state-funded approach where we are tied to state-mandated requirements, I think the town should start purchasing property for affordable rentals.

(1) The Town should create an Enterprise Fund to purchase and maintain a portfolio of properties all over town that will be available for rentals. This would be a means to manage the town's real estate portfolio in a more consistent and disciplined fashion to achieve our broader goals. We should build on the Housing Authorities experience as a landlord and create a similar infrastructure to handle town-owned property. (Note that one nice byproduct of spreading these properties throughout town is that you avoid "ghettoes" of affordable housing and you create more economic diversity within the community.)

(2) The Town should give first preference to people with year round employment. I would start in the police department, the Outer Cape, the Schools, Town Hall, etc. You've also got people who deliver oil, work in the trades, work in salons, Stop & Shop, year round restaurants (I'd include any restaurant that is open 10 months/year to be realistic.) Let's see if we can entice some of the 13% of renters we've lost to other towns in the past 6 years back into town.

(3) You want it to be revenue neutral so I would not take the properties out of the tax base. (The Town could decide to do so, but it would obviously have revenue implications.)

(4) The town could set the minimum rent to the tax rate on the property plus 20% (TBD) to cover maintenance plus an estimate of the utilities and insurance. Just to give you an example, a $500,000 condo, which is a decent two bedroom, should have a tax rate of about $3600/year. If you add 20% for maintenance, that is $360/month. Adding roughly $400/month for utilities and insurance (this is based on some online discussion and direct conversations I've had with two landlords) and you get to a grand total of $760/month for a two bedroom. (Note that this is a totally un-levered option. Each $100,000 of debt you layer in at a 2.5% assumed borrowing rate for the town for a 30-year mortgage is going to increase the monthly by about $400. More about funding below.)

(5) I would set the actual rent to the greater of the minimum rent (in 4) or 30% of the person's gross income, which is widely regarded as the 'right' amount to spend on your housing and utilities. This also makes it more equitable since the town won't be subsidizing higher earners. So in the above example, if someone earned $50,000/year, they would pay $15,000 annually or $1250/month in rent to the town.

You can run the various scenarios and you can also set a maximum income if you like so that you are only renting to people making less than $125,000. I picked that number because it covers all town employees except the Town Manager and Police Chief. Plus don't forget we're continuing to pursue state-funding housing as well which is largely going to people who make less.

If you assume for arguments sake that you are targeting renters earning $50,000 - $100,000 annually as either singles or families you would be looking at average annual rentals of $15,000 to $30,000 and could make your decisions on how to fund accordingly. The lower end of this range would be at the 80% of area median income (AMI) level of Barnstable county and up. (Note that 5 units at Province landings went to people earning up to 30% of AMI, 36 units at 60% and 9 units at 80%. There is no available data on demand at each income level.) Moderate and lower income properties could be purchased as well depending on demand and need.

(6) Surplus money can be used to hire additional staff as needed or kicked into the fund to purchase more housing.

There are tons of permutations on this depending on how it is designed and funded. Many of the purchased properties can also go toward filling the town's 10% affordable housing quota.

Funding Options: Here are just a couple of ideas.

(1) Use the condo tax revenues when that legislation passes to purchase housing. Sarah Peake thinks it is inching closer to passage at the State Level and Town Meeting has overwhelmingly passed it repeatedly as well. The estimate for revenue from that tax are about $750,000 - $1 million. This has the advantage of taxing the very activity that is the biggest contributor to the lack of affordable year-round rentals.

(2) Revisit the idea of a transfer tax. I think in the past this has met with resistance but it may be worth revisiting. Nantucket, for example, has a 2% transfer tax paid by the buyer. There is an exemption of $400,000 for first time buyers who will make it their domicile that must be repaid with interest if the property is sold before 5 years time. The money goes into a Land Bank which has purchased 50% of available open land for conservation. (http://www.nantucketlandbank.org/Documents/Regulations.pdf) The average amount of annual real estate sales in Provincetown for the past 5 years is about $216 million (source: http://www.provincetown-ma.gov/index.aspx?NID=173). That amount of turnover would generate $2.2 million with a 1% flip tax and $4.3 million with a 2% tax assuming no exemption. I believe this would also require approval from Beacon Hill, but someone has suggested that the State may be more amenable to this given the stated use of the funds.

(3) Explore a dual tax rate. I know this one is unpopular, but I am still going to put it out there. Looking at the Assessor's report to the Board of Selectmen (dated October 15), I had a bunch of questions and I confess I may be reading the tables wrong, but it seemed to me that what the assessor was saying is that if you adopted a residential exemption of 20%, the tax rate would have to increase to $7.92 to maintain neutral revenue to the town. A resident with a two bedroom house with a median value of $600,000 would save about $430 per year in property tax. A non resident owner of an equivalent property would pay $350 more per year. I am with the assessor up to here. Unfortunately I can't figure out from the data what the effective tax rate would be for a resident per $1,000 but that is very likely my failing. I was able to figure out that it takes an incremental 38.5 cents or so per $1,000 of assessed value to raise $1 million. I would continue to research this and I know that one of your committee members has done extensive research on this topic. You have to make certain also that seniors are protected and that those who rent to year-round tenants are not adversely affected. It is very complex, but definitely doable if the town decides to go down this route.

(4) You could allow people to donate money directly into the fund. If it were tax deductible you might be surprised what you could generate.

(5) Earmark proceeds from sales of town own properties directly into this fund. Thinking specifically of Grace Gouveia and The Community Center here which should go into the new Enterprise Fund anyway.

Using no leverage, with $2 million in annual revenues, the Town could purchase on average 5 properties per year. While the initial impact would be small, we're 10 years away from our next affordable housing development at least. In that 10 years, the town could own 50 housing units plus whatever housing we could purchase with the sale of surplus assets.

Another approach is to employ very conservative leverage to get even more bang for our buck, using the revenue raising measures discussed above to provide the equity portion of financing. (Note that the town could also explore grants for the equity piece of financing as someone has suggested. The obvious upside is that grants would not require any revenue raising measures by the town. The downside is that state funding would probably come with strings attach that might make it difficult to achieve our stated goals.) The Enterprise Fund could use conservative leverage by borrowing say 50% loan-to-value and pledging the underlying real estate being acquired (along with assignments of leases) as the financing’s sole collateral with no recourse back to the Town thus limiting any exposure of the Town to the value of the underlying real estate. The leveraged funding source could come from private investors and it may also be possible to accomplish this in a way that the town’s debt limit is not impacted. Maximum advantage would be achieved if the funding used to acquire the real estate could be issued in the form of tax exempt bonds placed directly with private investors. It would be extremely useful if further research could be done to explore the viability of this option. A reserve would have to be created, but mortgage financing for real estate is a pretty well developed field and if a means were found to economically issue small privately placed tax free financings the enterprise fund could significantly enhance its effectiveness and our goals achieved all the sooner. Given our need to keep rents affordable, financing would necessarily be conservative.

This is not meant to be the answer to the town's problem, but rather to build upon the recent Housing Summit and numerous online discussions regarding the issue of affordable housing. I hope, at least, that it can spark some dialogue.

Thanks,

Peter
5:59 pm edt 

Re: Charges Against Finance Committee

Re: "When he is there! .  .  ."


Good to see the rat in the basement is keeping an eye on things.
5:31 pm edt 

Posted in the Lighthouse

Did we not recently approve and hire a town planner at a decent salary.  The
town planner and other key positions should be finding ways and working on
solutions to help sustain a year round economy for provincetown.  If we keep on
the same avenue of seasonal housing during the summer months only we will not
need to support full time positions.  We could have a part time building
commissioner, eliminate the planner and assistant town manager position,
assistant assessor, finance director and not fill positions in the police
department as officers retire. Our tax dollars will be paying for high paying
positions with no return for our tax dollar. These people in town government
need to start working for us and give us the potential we hired them for or we
need to start eliminating positions.
5:29 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson & Sharon Lynn

No big surprise here.  Clarence leads the charge against Brian.

You folks need to grow up and take responsibility for your actions.
5:27 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - " This is a Small Town"

"We have to thank George's Pizza for being open all winter and for
being there when anyone wants a piece of pizza and a glass of wine or a beer.
Plots? Plans? someone has been watching Homeland for too long."



No we don't.  George's should thank us for patronizing the store.  He does not
keep it open for us, but for him.  And, that is the way it should be.  That's
business, not charity.

Here is another instance of thinking that you can obey whatever laws you like. 
Plenty of people were outraged and were convinced that the political signs
debacle was as bad as crime can get.  Fact is, it was wrong, but still small
potatoes.  breaking the open meeting law is wrong, but usually small potatoes. 
You can't make it kegal because George's is across the street.  You can't make
it legal because you like to relax after a long meeting.  You can't make it
legal with fellow members of a board.  The law is rather simple. Getting
together with a quorum of members of a board and discussing the business of the
board without properly posting the meeting, is illegal.  That does not mean that
there has to be "plots and Plans" . As long as they do the above it is illegal. 
Period.  No drama.  Illegal.  SO mr. Carlson reported illegal activity.  No big
deal, it is his civic duty.
5:25 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson & Sharon Lynn

So wasn't Carlson promoted under Lynn? It seems like Lynn's hires are
the ones still giving us trouble and costing us money! Lynn is gone, Jaran is
gone and Hoort and Carlson need to be removed next.
5:23 pm edt 

Re: FinCom - Town Manager & Police Chief Salaries

I was recently told that the fin com wanted to lower salaries for the
new TM and PC and the rational was because they don't believe these positions or
the people these jobs should last more than 3-5 years? Please someone explain
this logic to me? Employees have to move here for a job that our politicians
only want to keep short term? Now thats a sales pitch to land talent! Unreal.
4:30 pm edt 

Posted in the Lighthouse



These are some very very alarming facts.

1.In the decade spanning the years 2000 through 2010, Provincetown's small year-round population declined 14.3% from 3,431 to 2,942,

2.the number of housing units far exceeds the total population of the town, where that number of housing units rose 15% while the population dropped 14%, and where nearly 54% of the housing stock remains vacant during the winter months

3.If these trends go on, soon in less then 20 years Ptown will no longer have a viable sustainable population to support it's summer time work force needs. And 20 years is a very generous amount of time, some estimates say trends will increase not decrease, so 10-15 years is very likely.


So my question, what is the town doing in regards to zoning to stop this trend?

4:28 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson

This is a Small Town

we eat out together and meet each other and often without any plans or agendas.
We just go somewhere. and I have often seen members of various boards walk
across the street and go to George's Pizza after a meeting. I too have gone
there. And why not? We eat together and we talk and we meet. It is Provincetown
and our options of where to eat and where to have a meal are few. Plus, this
place, George's, is just across from town hall. could it be any more convenient?
should members go to Cumberland Farms and get a cup of coffee? should they go to
the health foods place and share a cup of green tea? that would be an effort and
that--yes that--would take planning and forethought. George's just doesn't
demand any planning. It is just there and those who go, go.

We have to thank George's Pizza for being open all winter and for being there
when anyone wants a piece of pizza and a glass of wine or a beer. Plots? Plans?
someone has been watching Homeland for too long.


We just don't need this type of odd thinking and odd action by someone who works
and is paid quite well by town hall.
4:23 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson

I'm a property owner and had placed a call to town hall to speak with Brian
Carlson with questions I had about my septic system and it seemed he was never
in nor did he return my messages. I had mentioned to the secretary I was going
to file a complaint with the town managers office but never did because she put
me through to the permit coordinator who calmed me down and was able to answer
my questions.  Perhaps Mr. Carlson should do his real job.
4:04 pm edt 

Open Meeting Law Complaint

Several people are praising kudos to Mr. Carlson.If it were me and I thought I
saw something of what I thought could be considered an illegal act I would
have probably minded my own business unless I was able to photograph or tape
the conservations for proof of what I was alleging to. How does that saying go
"only believe half of what you see and none of what you hear" unless you have
concrete evidence. Many people have been known to take a conversation out of
context and expand on what they see. Its the nature of the human beast.
2:37 pm edt 

Re: Charges Against Finance Committee - Brian Carlson

I question Brian Carlson's actions. He is unorganized and seems to
know nothing about State sanitary codes or compliance. He seems to be more
interested in drama.
2:31 pm edt 

Re: MYPACC

Clarence IS Fair

All of my postings including some mean spirited ones have been posted. Clarence
doesn't allow lashing out with no cause, or comments attempting to start trouble
or make people angry.

All in all, this site allows EVERYONE to post.

p.s.  and I'm NOT Clarence.
12:10 pm edt 

Brian Carlson - Charges Against FinCom

This Issue Dealing with the Open Meeting Law Was Decided a few years Ago

There had been a complaint and I think it might have been against fincom and
they're socializing after a meeting. there may have been allegations against
other boards who did the same. I believe the Attorney General ruled in favor of
the boards and that socializing is allowed and does not constitute a quorum. How
many boards and commissions meet at George's after hours and hours of meetings.
they don't meet to discuss business but to relax and enjoy themselves after
sometimes difficult meetings.  Who would take this away f rom board members?
Surely Historic district and Zoning and other boards do this. and why George?
it's not to plot anything but it is convenient, close, and friendly.

How foolish to try to condemn FinCom for socializing at George's Pizza. And,
please, what are these members to do with fat blue books that hold the many
documents and budget issues they must deal with? Check them in at the bar? Ask
George to have a special locker to hold these blue books? Stack them on the
floor and block customers?

This is foolish and it seems like an attempt to threaten FinCom members and all
other members of any board against socializing. this is not what the Open
Meeting Law is about.

I do not see this as a courageous act nor a helpful act. it causes me to raise
questions a bout Brian Carlson that I would not have asked before. It is a
rather confusing act.
11:11 am edt 

Re: MYPACC

[MY]PACC web site, an opportunity to voice your opinion?


This may be the case if you have something negative to say about Tom Koumanelis,
Cheryl Andrews or only positive things to say in support of James Palacino and
Brian Carlson.  Try to express opposing views and your post will not appear on
this web site.  Public opinion is being manipulated by what the web master
chooses to post on HIS web site.  This is his prerogative, but don't be fooled
in to believing that this blog represents everyone's position.  By reading this
blog, you are not exposed to my opinions and certainly many others.
10:52 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

"If I follow Hort's Twisted Logic then the Assistant Town Manager can
run for the Charter Commission. and the new
Town Manager can run for the Charter Commission. The logic is flawed and
twisted.
Stick to your work and to numbers. that's what you are paid to do. so do it and 
do it well."



It is the law that is being discussed, not logic.  Laws are not always logical
eg so many states have passed laws against same sex marriage.  Not too logical.
They can and will be overturned but until the PT charter is declared illegal, it
is the law that governs the way we govern ourselves.  It is not your opinion of
what is logical that matters .  If the law allows someone to seek elected
office, then exactly what does logic have to do with it?  Nothing.  We are a
nation of laws.

What do you mean about sticking to numbers?
10:49 am edt 

Re: Free Speach

If you are going to take away someone's right to run for an elected
office or take away their right of free speech you better be darn sure of it. 
It's not a game where you can take away someone's rights because you don't like
them.
10:47 am edt 

Open Meeting Law

A basic question.  Do you believe in the premise of open meetings?  And if a
group is violating the law, what should be done?

10:46 am edt 

Re: Article 30

The town political machine is losing its perspective concerning town residents.
It is one thing to change parking regulations in an effort to accomodate
commerce, but not at the expense of people that live here! If indeed shop owners
or shop workers are considered to be costing the town money because they are
using parking spots that could be used by potential customers, and therefore the
town would make more money (taxes, etc.) Then something is wrong! People live
and come to this town for the same reasons, to enjoy themselves.  Instead of
gouging residents and visitors alike with parking fees in an attempt to justify
the out of control spending of the town fathers, stop wasting money. Put the
surplus real estate owned by the town back on the tax roll, eliminate some of
the school expense spending, lower the starting salary of the new town manager
and police chief, increase it after a year of proving their worth, eliminate
some of the people and vehicles in the parking department, downsize the police
department. Our town leaders have to make some unpopular decisions to get
the townm finances in order, but denying parking to residents should not be one of
them.

10:45 am edt 

To: Webmaster

Keep up the great work you do Clarence. This site has been influential
in shaping an even more wonderful Town , Provincetown. I am so thankful and
proud to call it home.  Your dedication to this site does not go unnoticed.So
many are grateful . A job well done .
10:40 am edt 

Re: Charges Against Finance Committee

"Perhaps, just perhaps, Brian Carlson was doing Dan Hoort's dirty
work. It wouldn't be the first time Hoort has Used a town employee to do his
bidding."



When he is there!  Never on time
10:37 am edt 

Re: Article 30. Limitation on Parking Permits

RE: The proposal to not allow residents or non residents with parking
permits to park at MacMillan Wharf or Ryder St. is such a bad idea.
If the town is this desperate to raise more revenue why not try cutting some of
the fat out of the town budget. SO much money spent on BS and no scaling back
evident at all.

Many of us home owners and renters that make our home here should have some
priority. I am not a senior yet and thankfully not handicapped, but appreciate
the convenience of being able to park in the center of town when needed with my
permit.

Please lets try and consider the tax payers for once. Would love to know who on
the Finance Committee dreamed this one up.
10:32 am edt 

Quel Grand Politique Dramatique

When Sean Patrick Harrington left FinCom after his truly bizarre huffy puffy
fit, Provincetown Theater President Mr Brian Carlson invited Mr SPH to the Board
of Directors of the Provincetown Theater.

So much theater from those two! Quel grand politique dramatique
10:29 am edt 

Friday, March 21, 2014

Dan Hoort

If I follow Hort's Twisted Logic

then the Assistant Town Manager can run for the Charter Commission. and the new
Town Manager can run for the Charter Commission. The logic is flawed and
twisted.

Stick to your work and to numbers. that's what you are paid to do. so do it and
do it well.
11:03 pm edt 

Connecting the Dots - When & by Whom?

I believe Marcene Marcoux wrote Connecting The Dots.
11:01 pm edt 

Charges Against Finance Committee

People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.The truths will reveal
themselves in due time.None of us are untouchable.
11:00 pm edt 

Re: Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

"They usually do. And as far as the TM position, who's to say we don't
have a similar scenario as we just had, a former cop (maybe Anthony knows
someone?) that applies for the position.
Will he make the right choice for the town as opposed to the right choice for
himself and his friend."


What is it with some people.  Why do they think for a single minute that one BOS
member rules the town?  Does anyone really think that a candidate is ever going
to say in public (or in private even) that they will make selfish decisions that
would be best for them and their friends but bad for the own.  Do you really
think that someone might say that.  Honestly believe that person running for
office would admit that they were a scum bag?  No, you don't really think that,
so what do you really mean by this silliness?
10:43 pm edt 

Mike Canizales - Chairman of the Finance Committee

This is a cut and paste from Doug Cliggott 's presentation to fincom. We are
trying to facilitate debate. Of the Capex spending below I think $14M is planned
as overrides in 3 years. Does this make you think differently about raising other
revenue? that's the $16,000,000 question:

The Town currently has $14.3 million in General Fund debt. The cost
associated with this debt is estimated to be $2.25 million in fiscal 2015, with
about $1.65 going to repay principle and roughly $0.60 million in interest
payments to the investors that have lent the money to the Town.

Total debt service in 2015 represents 9.2% of general fund revenues that are
estimated to equal $24.6 million. The current figure is modestly below the Towns
target for maximum debt service payments of 10% of general fund revenues.

The Towns existing Capital Improvement Program {CIP} is ambitious, with large
expenditures penciled in for ongoing vehicle fleet renewal, street paving, pier
repairs, police station construction and DPW garage construction. The current
estimate for CIP spending in the 2015 to 2017 period is roughly $16 million.

The $16 million figure represents 112% of existing general fund debt. So relying
solely, or even mainly, on debt financing for these projects does not appear to
be a viable option for the Town unless we choose to ignore our debt service
guidelines for a number of years.

Raising general fund revenues would appear to be an urgent priority if we are to
move ahead with significant capital projects in the next 3-5 years.

Property taxes represent 73% of general fund revenues. The next single largest
source of revenue for the general fund is parking fees, at 8%. So a 12-to-13%
increase in parking fee revenues would represent a 1% increase in general fund
revenues.

It is in the spirit of proposing ideas to raise general fund revenues in order
to help pay for much needed capital improvements that we present the following
articles related to parking fee generation for your consideration and your vote.

The articles are intended to be non-binding. The intent is to provide our Board
of Selectmen with a sense of how Town Meeting  if at all  would choose to raise
more revenue from public parking in our Town.
10:40 pm edt 

Mini Revolution

It appears that several heroes of the so-called mini revolution are
going over the edge. Drunk on power and ego, they are deciding what is law,
commanding questioners to look away, and basically, deciding who is worthy and
who is not. Even the past administration wasn't this petty.
10:33 pm edt 

Re: Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

Wow, there's some twisted logic!
I was interested in finding if Mr. Anthony will work in the open and not behind
closed doors when making choices the town will have to live with. He's a former
police chief and he may have some friends or aquaintances that might look for
the new chief position. The TM does the choosing but the BOS makes the final
determination on whether they accept the nominee or not. They usually do. And as
far as the TM position, who's to say we don't have a similar scenario as we just
had, a former cop (maybe Anthony knows someone?) that applies for the position.
Will he make the right choice for the town as opposed to the right choice for
himself and his friend. His answers were clear to me that he is going to be a
straight shooter and all in the good intent of the town. I believe him with the
answer he gave. The rest is all heresay on your part.
4:20 pm edt 

Brian Carlson - Charges Against FinCom

Brian Carlson is very brave to file the charges against the Fin Com.He
is just and moral to do so. Some boards seem to never learn. They repeat the
same questionable actions and defend themselves with self rightousness
indignation. I think for the Fin Com chair to even mention that the acting Town
Manager should tell town employees to look the other way and not file charges
when they believe something should be looked into because it will cost the town
money is right up there with all the past shenanigans we've recently witnessed.
This too is like trying to violate our constitutional rights.
4:13 pm edt 

Connecting the Dots

Is anyone able to tell me who and when the "connecting the dots"
[was] written and by whom? I find it extremely fascinating as you get about 10 - 12
paragraphs down regarding the Finance Director. I would love to chat with the
author sometime. I thought it was so interesting to read. Thank you if you can
help?
4:11 pm edt 

Re: Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

"Please do not bother to respond otherwise. It is time for the
remaining few to go. I love this town for its history and freedom.  YES freedom
of expression..."



Perhaps you may want to reword this drivel. What you mean to say is that you
LOVE the FREEDOM to EXPRESS YOUR opinions (and to use ALL CAPS for emphasis),
and everybody else should stifle themselves or MOVE. Especially the THUGS. Well,
why not start packing bub?
4:08 pm edt 

Reprinted From the Voice....Any Thoughts?

Jennifer Cabral

Article 30. Limitation on Parking Permits.
To see if the Town will vote to recommend to the Board of Selectmen to alter the
status of resident and non-resident permits so that they would not be valid at
the MacMillan Pier Municipal Parking Lot or the Ryder Street parking kiosks
between June 30, 2014 and September 1, 2014. Exceptions would be made for
vehicles with senior permits and handicapped permits. This one year pilot
project will be re-evaluated at Town Meeting in April 2015. If parking revenue
growth exceeded the targeted 12  13% in the coming year, hourly rates could be
lowered for the summer of 2015; or to take any other action relative thereto.
[Requested by the Finance Committee]
4:06 pm edt 

Re: Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

"Are you going to tell me there was never any influence from any
selectmen in the choice of a chief? Are you really that naive? And as far as
selecting the new TM, again, are you claiming there is never any coercion
amongst BOS members in choosing a TM?? Really??"



No, I was not saying that there may or may not have been discussions between the
TM and BOS members.  I Don't know and I sincerely doubt that you do either. I
have no idea what thoughts that the BOS might have had about Jaran. I don't know
if any of them had any connection to him and would love to hear from you or
others who maybe be able to add to this with certain knowledge instead of the
constant drumbeat of conspiracy theories. When you say "coercion" do you mean
something like improper arm twisting?  Or do you mean "conspiracy" to do harm to
the town?  Or do you think that reasonable discussions concerning the job at
hand without calling you were tainted?  I have the feeling that you really mean
that since you were not allowed to pick the TM or Chief, that you feel the
process was corrupt and that the TM and BOS deliberately chose a chief who would
end up in a very bad position.
3:34 pm edt 

Re: "Attacking" Dan Hoort

" It runs counter to Sections 3-4-2 and 3-4-3 of the Charter, as
evidenced by Section 5-2-3.  It is offensive to common sense, and incompatible
with good faith and fair dealing. Just because you CAN do something (or THINK
you can), doesn't mean that you SHOULD.  And another thing, Dan cites 930 CMR
6.02 (3) as his "magic bullet" to allow him to avoid being forced to recuse on
FinComm matters.  Nice try, Dan, but you are WRONG again.  I'm not a lawyer, but
if he were to read that regulation carefully, he will find that it offers him no
protection, given his specific situation."


I'm glad that you are not a lawyer because you have no idea about how to read a
law.  There s NOTHING in any of these laws that even SUGGESTS what you say. 
Actions are either outside the law or not.  You can stamp your feet all day long
and say that the law is unfair and incompatible with good faith, but that won't
change the law.  If you believe a town employee is breaking the law bring it to
the proper authority.  You will not find that authority on this site.  You may
want the FinCom to have more power and responsibility than it has by statute and
may hate anyone that points out the limits of the lawful role, but that won't
change the law.  I know that you are not a lawyer, so hire one and ask for a
written opinion about the laws governing the FinCom and paid town employees
serving in other capacities.

DH may be a lot of things. I, we, may not agree with him on some things.  We may
not particularly like his personality or style, but he has the law on his side
here.
3:30 pm edt 

Re: "Attacking" Dan Hoort

"Just because you (think you) CAN do something, it doesn't mean that
you SHOULD"



OK, this is not the promised "part two" of my earlier "corruption" post  that
got bumped, because  I felt compelled to set the record straight after realizing
that Mr. Hoort, by omission, misled all of us in yesterday's remarks.

Dan, you wrote,
"To make sure I wasn't doing something wrong I called the State Ethics
Commission today and spoke to the attorney of the day. They stated it was
acceptable for a compensated employee to run for an elected, non-compensated
position. If elected I need only file a form 930 CMR 6.02 (3) with the town
manager. The disclosure form is listed on the Ethics Commission web site if
you'd like to read it."

First I need to correct my response from yesterday about 930 CMR, for I
misunderstood the intent of you comment  I thought you were intending to us that
statute refute earlier conflict of interest disputes, but then I realized that
wasn't your intent.  Please accept my apologies, and disregard that paragraph
within my post from yesterday.

You see, to the layman, your statement certainly sounds impressive and carries
the air of authority, but it was a nice try.  I'm not a lawyer, but all you
managed to do was to confirm the ONE AND ONLY fact about your candidacy that I
have NEVER DISPUTED.  What's more, you NEVER even asked the attorney about ANY
of our numerous points of dispute!  If that isn't a disingenuous distortion of,
as you call it,  not doing something wrong, I don't know what is.  Wouldn't you
rather find out NOW, rather than later, that you are hurtling towards a brick
wall?  But I suspect you already know that, and simply don't care  but I can't
imagine why.  Surely, you don't expect the taxpayers to pay your fines, do you?

As you probably know, your statement is only PARTIALLY correct:  It is indeed
acceptable for a compensated employee to run for an elected, non-compensated
position  PROVIDED, of course, that the Charter is not violated in the process. 
The state's attorney sitting in Boston wouldn't have known enough to give you
that proviso, unless you shared with him the text of Sections 3‑4‑2,
3‑4‑3, and 5‑2‑3 of our Charter, AND only if you had
also informed him that since the day you were hired, you have been assigned as
the Town's Staff Liaison to the Finance Commission.

With respect to the Charter, you and I apparently disagree quite strongly on the
definition of "in any way" (I believe that it means in any way  I don't think
you've shared your definition yet, but clearly we differ).  Section
5‑2‑3 does a pretty good job of linking in any way your public
function with the Finance Committee.  HOWEVER, I'll nevertheless play along with
you, just this ONE TIME, and assume for the sake of argument that you'll clear
that hurdle and get elected
  This is where the fun that you were talking about really begins!

First off, I assume, more specifically, that you referred to subsection (3) (a)
of 930 CMR 6.02, because the others don't really seem to apply.  That form you
mentioned, by the way, should ALSO cover the $5,500 VSB tourism grant that you
applied for back in December, so be sure to include that as well, if in fact
that grant was awarded to you.  That will take care of the person with an
existing direct or indirect financial interest in a public contract stuff.

The other very, VERY important thing to note about the regulation that you cited
is, Persons acting within this exemption remain subject to the other
prohibitions of M.G.L. c. 268A, including, but not limited to, M.G.L. c. 268A,
§§ 8A, 15A, and 21A concerning ELECTION . . . ;  M.G.L. c. 268A, §§ 6, 13, and
19 concerning SELF-DEALING; and M.G.L. c. 268A, § 23, the STANDARDS of CONDUCT.
(emphasis added)

Now, as I've mentioned before, it is what you (and Mr. Klytta) will do AFTER the
election that will get you in trouble.  930 CMR 6.02 (3) (a) won't help you
there, but lo and behold, those other prohibitions that it mentions just so
happen to cover the very scenarios that Ive been discussing this past week
(e.g. participating by sitting on a complaint against the Finance Committee or
Board of Selectmen).  Looks like you might need to be concerned about those
things after all.  Most notably, I would like to point out M.G.L. c. 268A,
§ 23 (b) (2), prohibiting misuse of official position, and § 23 (b) (3),
appearance of conflict of interest.  Just a suggestion.

But don't take my word for it, go ahead and call the attorney-of-the-day again
today.  You really owe it to the public to dispel my claims with detailed facts,
not innuendo.  Be sure to read to the attorney those three sections in the
Charter, and also mention the staff liaison to FinComm thing.  Those are
important details, unless you are trying to mislead the
Ethics Commission in the same way that you did the public.  Please do let
everyone know whether it's OK for you to sit on FinComm and BoS cases, and why. 
If by some odd cosmic confluence they give you an all-clear, be sure get it in
writing  you're gonna need it.

And remember, just because you (think you) CAN do something, it doesn't mean
that you SHOULD.

  Dieter Groll
3:25 pm edt 

Re: "Attacking" Dan Hoort

"He is arrogant and full of himself. He is not the best
treasurer--that's what he is--we've ever had. I'd take Heleila anytime. and she
was pleasant. he is creepy and rather mean. Dump him, please."



Thanks for the review of his credentials.  Please share with us the job
description that you used to evaluate his ability to do the job?
11:36 am edt 

Re: Brian Carlson vs. Town Board

"Perhaps, just perhaps, Brian Carlson was doing Dan Hoort's dirty
work. It wouldn't be the first time Hoort has Used a town employee to do his
bidding."


Now who is doing dirty work?  Brian is one of the best employees that this town
has ever had. He does the bidding of his own conscience and the town's best
interests.  This business of all the hate erupting because someone disagrees
with you is appalling.  Do you have no shame?

If you want privacy in your conversations, stay out of public places.  But,
remember the open meeting law.  No conspiracies please.
11:32 am edt 

Re: "Attacking" Dan Hoort

"If the man would stick to his skills, FINANCE, and stay out of the
business of a hostile takeover of the town's Charter for his own profit and
revenge, then he would not be vilified so. If he truly wants to expand his
service to the Town, then perhaps he should join one of the countless other
boards that need members.  With either of these approaches, he would be an asset
to the Town, instead of a liability."



Is this the script for a new drama series?  "Hostile Takeover"?  This stuff is
not even up to the stanards of an old Soviet film.  Does Dieter really think for
one minutes that a single person running for the Charter Committee can execute a
"hostile takeover".  As we said as kids, GET A LIFE.
11:29 am edt 

The Mouse That Roared

"We will never stop wagging our fingers in people like your faces
until the last of the toxic individuals are gone."


And who decides who are the members of this "toxic" group?  Please name the
"toxic cleansing committee" so that the whole town knows.  Then the TCC can list
all the Toxic folks and the attributes that got them put into the group.

The language and melodramatics are getting to be worthy of a good film like THE
MOUSE THAT ROARED. Hilarious.
11:28 am edt 

Re: What Rock Have You Been Hiding Under?

"Hideous acts by our town leaders have taken place."


Rather over the top I would say.  "hideous"?  You're not really serious are you? 
Wrong, maybe.  Mistaken, maybe.  Stupid, maybe.  Misguided, maybe. Hideous, not.
11:23 am edt 

An Observation

As a sideline observer who has read this blog with a degree of
skepticism it would appear that one group in power is about to be replaced by
another group in power.

It also appears that if you don't agree with the new group you are either
harassed endlessly or chased out of town.

Reminds me of Washington, DC. and the approval ratings in a year will probably
be similar to DC politicians.
11:21 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort - Finance Director

"He is arrogant and full of himself. He is not the best
treasurer--that's what he is--we've ever had."



I agree with you.  Because he's never worked for the town as treasurer.  You
know him so well, you don't even know what he does.
11:18 am edt 

Re: Tom Koumanelis- Provincetown Police Officer

Thomas Koumanelis is a poor example of what our wonderful police
department should exemplify . He has been in more " questionable situations "
then any other serving on our police force. Is it really fair that other good
officers must be fearful of him?  as a sergeant he is a supervisor to many of
these great officers and they must answer to him when he is on duty. Not only
should he resign but he should have been terminated immediately after the claims
against him were substantiated.  He is a disgrace to uniform and to this town
and i hope with the latest law suit against him justice will be served and he
will made an example of what a police officer IS NOT SUPPOSED TO DO.  He is not
above the law and he certainly does not represent the fine officers in our
police department.
11:15 am edt 

Brian Carlson vs. Town Board

It is doubtful that town board members would be discussing town business in a
public restaurant out in the open. What people should be more concerrned about
are the board members that do adjourn to a members house for a gathering after
meetings. I live in an area of town where I've acttually seen this to be true.
11:13 am edt 

Re: Tom Koumanelis- Provincetown Police Officer

"Did you read this after you posted it, or before you clicked "submit"?  
Here you give a hope of ill will to a person, then pontificate about wishing ill
will? So, what greater ill will will befall you."




Hey self proclaimed pontificator- EVER GIVE ANY THOUGHT TO THE VICTIMS.  Quess
NOT
11:09 am edt 

Re: "Attacking" Dan Hoort

".  .  . It is offensive to common sense, and incompatible with good
faith and fair dealing. Just because you CAN do something (or THINK
you can), doesn't mean that you SHOULD. .  ."


The law according to Dieter.  Just because you don"t like someone doesn't mean
you can (or THINK you can) tell them what to do.  If Hoort wants to run for an
office he is legally entitled to run for and you don't like it - don't vote for
him.  Your childish rants and vindictive mission to get him only make you look
small.

I don't care whether he runs or not, but if he wants to I say let him.
11:04 am edt 

Re: Tom Koumanelis- Provincetown Police Officer

"I can only think of one other person besides yourself that should
exit. As far as that person is concerned, I believe his days are numbered as
well. You see, those who do "ill will" to others only become the recipients of
even greater ill will."


"Did you read this after you posted it, or before you clicked "submit"?   Here
you give a hope of ill will to a person, then pontificate about wishing ill
will? So, what greater ill will will befall you."


Your philisophical ananlysis has no merit here. These thugs  caused great harm
to many people. Yes THUGS. Think about Andrea Poulin, Eric Roberts and his
wonderful wife, and countless ,countless others who were caught in the wrath of
this Thug led police dept. You obviously were in "their" camp. Please do not
bother to respond otherwise. It is time for the remaining few to go. I love this
town for its history and freedom.  YES freedom of expression. Comes a time where
one has to say ENOUGH IS ENCOUGH. I will as well as several others make sure our
town returns to that free,peaceful town. If it takes steadfast pressure on the
remaining "thugs", then so be it. Only difference is we will do it through the
courts as well as pressure from the public in our town. Again- as far as i am
concerned your philosphical analysis is nothng but turning a blind eye to those
who take advantage of the less advantaged. How eloquent of you.
12:09 am edt 

Thursday, March 20, 2014

Re: Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

For clarification to the person that had questions;
Didn't we get our selves into the mess we're in because, as you claim, the TM, a
former cop, hired the new chief, yet the selectmen decided to accept the chiefs
contract? Are you going to tell me there was never any influence from any
selectmen in the choice of a chief? Are you really that naive? And as far as
selecting the new TM, again, are you claiming there is never any coercion
amongst BOS members in choosing a TM?? Really?? Have you not been paying
attention?

And thanks to Mr. Anthony for your response. Your answer scored a home run with
me. I saw nothing between the lines of your answer. So far, my insticts are
right. Andrews (by default)Anthony and Richter. Just met Richter the other day.
Very very nice guy. Articulate, respectful and seemingly honest.
9:08 pm edt 

Playing Provincetown For the fool

Re: "WOW! A 30% raise. Congratulations Mr Hoort. Well played."

'If a Finance director job opened in Harwich, Orleans or Brewster I bet he'd
apply. They all pay over $100k to their finance head. I think Orleans pays
over $130k. We're getting a bargain. Come to think of it I think the finance
director in Harwich is retiring, he may end up going there."



Your words speak volumes......as does your record. Reflect that it is your record that
will follow you, as Lynn and Jaran will come to realize. You can run but you cannot hide!

The Fat Lady
8:56 pm edt 

Re: "Well Played"

Re: "WOW! A 30% raise. Congratulations Mr Hoort. Well played."


If a Finance director job opened in Harwich, Orleans or Brewster I bet he'd
apply.  They all pay over $100k to their finance head.  I think Orleans pays
over $130k.  We're getting a bargain.  Come to think of it I think the finance
director in Harwich is retiring, he may end up going there.
8:55 pm edt 

What is Wrong With Brian Carlson?

Better to stick to health issues. Many of us on boards get together after long
meetings and where do we usually go? Right across the street. It is not planned
but a nice place to relax after long meetings.

Spontaneous social events do not break the open meeting law. and snooping into
other's conversations and assuming you know what they talked about is vile.

Many words can be hears but that does not constitute a discussion of a specific
board's issues.

Perhaps, just perhaps, Brian Carlson was doing Dan Hoort's dirty work. It
wouldn't be the first time Hoort has Used a town employee to do his bidding.
8:50 pm edt 

Sign the Petition....

Mr. Hoort is over paid and these raises Lynn handed out are a disgrace
to the taxpayers. Hoort is arrogant and  can be replaced in a nano second.
8:47 pm edt 

I Think Hoort is Out of Line

He is arrogant and full of himself. He is not the best treasurer--that's what he
is--we've ever had. I'd take Heleila anytime. and she was pleasant. he is creepy
and rather mean. Dump him, please.
8:45 pm edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

Thanks but no Novels Please

Simplicity and brevity are good qualities in writing. Let's
hope a few pick up this virtue.
8:43 pm edt 

Re: Finance Director

"I heard that someone has started a petetion to send onto the Selectmen. . ."


Are your lives really that empty?
8:41 pm edt 

Re: "Attacking" Dan Hoort

I understand how people would react by saying that we are "attacking" poor,
helpless, defenseless Dan. But he's a big boy, and if his past publicity stunts
are any indicator, he LOVES the attention, in whatever form it takes.

The answer to ending the "attacks" is very simple. If the man would stick to his
skills, FINANCE, and stay out of the business of a hostile takeover of the
town's Charter for his own profit and revenge, then he would not be vilified so.
If he truly wants to expand his service to the Town, then perhaps he should join
one of the countless other boards that need members.  With either of these
approaches, he would be an asset to the Town, instead of a liability.

But placing his own interests ahead of the interests of the Town is inexcusable.
Attempting to gain a "leg up"  a level of oversight  over those that have
oversight of his public function is immoral, unethical, and, as I have
maintained, illegal. It flies in the face of the legal doctrines of
"incompatibility of office" and, to a degree, the doctrine of "separation of
powers". It runs counter to Sections 3-4-2 and 3-4-3 of the Charter, as
evidenced by Section 5-2-3.  It is offensive to common sense, and incompatible
with good faith and fair dealing. Just because you CAN do something (or THINK
you can), doesn't mean that you SHOULD.

And another thing, Dan cites 930 CMR 6.02 (3) as his "magic bullet" to allow him
to avoid being forced to recuse on FinComm matters.  Nice try, Dan, but you are
WRONG again.  I'm not a lawyer, but if he were to read that regulation
carefully, he will find that it offers him no protection, given his specific
situation.  Further, the cited method (obtaining an exception through "written
disclosure and waiver by written determination") DOES NOT APPLY: the Town
Manager is ONLY his appointing authority to his office as Finance Director; but
as an elected position, the Town Manager IS NOT his appointing authority to the
Charter Enforcement Commission.  Further still, NONE of the exceptions to the
ethics laws protect him from the aforementioned provisions of the Charter
itself.

The pushback he is experiencing is ALL HIS CHOICE, brought about by HIS OWN
HAND.  Period.  If he withdraws his  illegal candidacy  yes, illegal, as the
Charter is written into state law  from the upcoming election, then the
"attacks" will cease.  It really is that simple.

  Dieter Groll
8:39 pm edt 

Which Rock?

"Oh give me a break. I can hear the "Star Wars" theme in the backdrop
of this grandious post. Some townspeople are movitated by honesty, some
by ego, some bybitterness. The town is far from healed, and it could easily
take years toresolve all the turmoil. Posts like this one trumpeting the righteous
acts ofthe "hero" at every turn are laughable. Stop wagging your finger in everyone's
face please."



We will never stop wagging our fingers in people like your faces until the last
of the toxic individuals are gone. And Yes - They will go. They had NO right to
do what they did. Face reality. In reference to your post, you are obviously
motivated by ego.
8:35 pm edt 

What Rock Have You Been Hiding Under?

"The town is far from healed, and it could easily take years to
resolve all the turmoil. Posts like this one trumpeting the righteous acts of
the "hero" at every turn are laughable. Stop wagging your finger in everyone's
face please."



Who are you calling a hero? Wagging fingers? What rock have you been hiding
under. Hideous acts by our town leaders have taken place. Some fled, fired etc.
Are you condoning what took place? It is people like you that will keep this
town from healing. Take a good hard look in the mirror. Or are you that self
absorbed?
8:32 pm edt 

Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

If elected as selectman for the town of Provincetown, I fully
understand that it is my fiduciary duty and responsibility to always put the
best interest of the town first and not to give priority over the towns interest
to any individual, friend, co-worker or department. As the chief of police I had
to make tough decisions that could not be based on friendship or personal
relationships. I will do the same if elected. By reestablishing and implementing
strategies such as the community policing committee and open communication with
the public; we can avoid misconduct and wrongdoing ahead of time and take
proactive steps to eliminate it when it occurs. We need public oversight and
transparency for the people to regain the trust of town officials and employees
again. The new town manager, police chief and the board of selectman must all
recognize that accountability is a must. This I understand. It is essential that
the new town manager understands that they take direc!
tion, in a working relationship, from the board of selectman and the new police
chief understands that they take direction, in a working relationship, from the
town manager. It is also just as essential that each member of the board of
selectmen understand that their direction comes from the public. When it comes
to making a decision about the town you have my promise that my undivided
loyalty will be for the town of Provincetown.
Bobby Anthony
8:29 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort - Finance Director

"Heilala left for Chatham because it was a much shorter commute and she
received a $15,000 increase.
No one forced her out, it was her decision."



The money is much greener on the other side of the fence for most of our town
employees.  We're lucky they aren't leaving.
8:23 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort - Finance Director

"I heard that someone has started a petition to send onto the
Selectmen that will show the community no longer has confidence in our Finance
Director? Where or who has this to sign?"


This may be totally legal but is it a wise way to run a town?  Who would ever
want to work here if they knew that at any given moment a few dour folks will
suddenly take it up to get you fired for whatever reasons they have?   If you
and your posse feel that you have specific problems with the job performance of
a town employee, then send an email to the person's supervisor.  Ask for a
response and if you don't get one, go to the BOS.  This stuff about petitions
seems a little too far over the top.  An approach that seems to be a lot softer
might solve problems a lot better.
8:13 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort - Finance Director

"Re: I heard that someone has started a petetion to send onto the
Selectmen that will show the community no longer has confidence in our Finance
Director?

Where or who has this to sign?"



So you want to get rid of one of the best finance directors we've ever had
because he speaks up?  Because he is running for an office for which he has
every right to run?

Talk about needing more money for legal fees, you'd also better be prepared to
pay a boatload of money for a wrongful termination.  You would be terminating
him for exercising his right of free speech and because of his political
activity.

A boatload of money.
8:07 pm edt 

Re: Disposition of the Grave Gouveia Building

Grace Gouveia Buildng follow up:

you can make your thoughts about this known to the Selectmen by emailing its
chair Elaine Anderson: eanderson@provincetown-ma.gov
8:04 pm edt 

Disposition of the Grave Gouveia Building

The Board of Selecmen plans to go into executive session at its March
24th meeting, to discuss the disposition of the Grave Gouveia building.  That
is, the public will not be allowed to hear their discussion or have any input. 
It is likely they will award the property, at a bargain price, to a developer
from Boston, who plans 6 luxury units and 3 small affordable units..

As a publicly owned building, the GG building would seem to be an ideal
candidate for conversion to affordable rental or purchase housing, which the
Town dearly needs, and which would to me be a more suitable memorial to Grace
Gouveia than creation of yet more luxury units.

This would also have the advantage of NOT removing existing older rental units
from the market, as happens when developers convert existing multi family
properties.

The selectman will surely argue that since only one candidate bid on the
property, they have no alternative.  Its also probably true that with their many
other concerns, they want to get this off their plate.

If there was only one bidder, then the selectman should consider putting the
property out to bid again, and cast a wider net: asking for help from local
realtors, getting the property onto onine sites such as Zillow and Loopnet(a
commercial property website) and advertising it in media such as the New England
Real Estate Journal.

But most  of all, they should NOT go into executive session and make a decision
on the property which most will see as a cozy deal.
8:03 pm edt 

Re: Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

"Having been the chief in town and therefore worked under the former
TMs, how do we know you'll again side with the towns best interests and choose
someone that will be doing the right things for the town as opposed to what we
just got rid of, a former officer who became the TM who then was in charge of a chief that
clearly she shielded?"



How about a clarification here.  Do you mean hiring a new Chief or a new TM?  If
the Chief, then no worry because the BOS does not hire the Chief.  If you mean
the TM, then don't worry about a BOS candidate voting for a particular person
since there are no candidates from which to choose. There will be 5 selectmen
and there must be a majority vote to select the new TM.  I don't quite
understand your concerns, and I'm not so sure that you are not just pushing some
candidate by questioning the motives of others.
7:57 pm edt 

Re: Tom Koumanelis- Provincetown Police Officer
 
"I can only think of one other person besides yourself that should
exit. As far as that person is concerned, I believe his days are numbered as
well. You see, those who do "ill will" to others only become the recipients of
even greater ill will."



Did you read this after you posted it, or before you clicked "submit"?   Here
you give a hope of ill will to a person, then pontificate about wishing ill
will? So, what greater ill will will befall you.
7:53 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort - Finance Director

"When Hoort applied for the job paid  it paid $65,686.40
The new budget increases Hoorts pay to $83,538 or an increase of $17,582 per
year. That's an increase of over 30% in just 5 years."



WOW! A 30% raise. Congratulations Mr Hoort. Well played.
7:43 pm edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

A complaint about the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy -

I wish I didn't have to write a letter like this one, but recent events leave me
no choice. I will start this discussion by arguing that the Cape Cod Commission
bureaucracy embraces prætorianism with open arms. Then, I will present evidence
that neither the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy nor its devotees have dealt
squarely or clearly with the fact that it is cowardice on the Cape Cod
Commission bureaucracy's part to convince the worst classes of uninformed
dissemblers there are that there is absolutely nothing they can do to better
their lot in life besides joining it, and everyone with half a brain understands
that. Sure, the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy talks the talk, but does it walk
the walk? After days of agonized pondering and reflection, I finally came to the
conclusion that a central fault line runs through each of the Cape Cod
Commission bureaucracy's policies. Specifically, the Cape Cod Commission
bureaucracy's thesis is that governments should have the rig!
ht to lie to their own subjects or to other governments. That's utterly vulgar,
you say? Good; that means you're finally catching on. The next step is to
observe that far too many people tolerate the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy's
sophistries as long as they're presented in small, seemingly harmless doses.
What these people fail to realize, however, is that the point at which you
discover that the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy's blatant indifference towards
the feelings of others is due to intense misunderstanding, suspicion, and fear
is not only a moment of disenchantment. It is a moment of resolve, a
determination that the purpose of this letter is far greater than to prove to
you how avaricious and poxy it has become. The purpose of this letter is to get
you to start thinking for yourself, to start thinking about how in order to
solve the big problems with it, we must first understand these problems, and to
understand them, we must fight to the end for our ideas and!
  ideals. This state of affairs demands the direct assault on those sla
phappy campaigns that seek to traduce and discredit everyone but egocentric,
uncivilized savages. When I first heard about the Cape Cod Commission
bureaucracy's rantings, I dismissed them as merely illogical. But when I later
learned that it wants me to self-censor my critique of it, I realized that the
Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy is too blinkered to read the writing on the
wall. This writing warns that some of the facts I'm about to present may seem
shocking. This they certainly are. However, its disciples all have serious
personal problems. In fact, the way the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy keeps
them loyal to it is by encouraging and exacerbating these problems rather than
by helping to overcome them. It's not necessary to go into too long of a
description about how the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy plans to coordinate a
revolution eventually. Suffice it to say that if the human race is to survive on
this planet, we will have to show principle, gumption, verve, an!
d nerve.

How can we expect to maximize our individual potential for effectiveness and
success in combatting the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy if we walk right into
the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy's trap? We can't, and that's why I welcome
its comments. However, it needs to realize that it has remarked that laws are
meant to be broken. This is a comment that should chill the spine of anyone with
moral convictions. To make sure you understand, I'll spell it out for you. For
starters, the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy's slogans are a mockery of all
that is fair and equitable. Once we realize that, what do we do? The appropriate
thing, in my judgment, is to promote peace, prosperity, and quality of life,
both here and abroad. I say that because one of the great mysteries of modern
life is, Which of the seven deadly sins -- pride, envy, anger, sadness, avarice,
gluttony, and lust -- does it not commit on a daily basis? We should be able to
look into our own souls for the answer. I!
f we do, I suspect we'll find that if my own experience has taught me anything,
it's that if I hear its hatchet men say, "This is the best of all possible
worlds and that the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy is the best of all possible
organizations" one more time, I'm going to throw up. Those of us who are still
sane, those of us who still have a firm grip on reality, those of us who still
feel that dodgy fugitives who trade facts for fantasy, truth for myths,
academics for collective socialization, and individual thinking for group
manipulation will, hopefully, eventually be replaced by people who believe in
freedom, justice, and the pursuit of personal growth, have an obligation to do
more than just observe what the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy is doing from a
safe distance. We have an obligation to chastise the Cape Cod Commission
bureaucracy for not doing any research before spouting off. We have an
obligation to discuss the advantages of two-parent families, the ess!
ential role of individual and family responsibility, the need for unif
orm standards of civil behavior, and the primacy of the work ethic. And we have
an obligation to fight tooth and nail against it.

How did the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy get so amoral? I have my theories,
but they're only speculation. At any rate, it is driving me nuts. I can't take
it anymore! Believe it or not, I really want to believe that the Cape Cod
Commission bureaucracy is a decent, honest organization. Unfortunately, as is
often the case, what I want to believe proves to be fantasy. The truth is that
the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy's hariolations are not our only concern. To
state the matter in a few words, I believe I have found my calling. My calling
is to reverse the devolutionary course the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy has
set for us. And just let it try and stop me.

It may be unfashionable to say so and it may surprise a few of you out there,
but the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy keeps saying that a totalitarian
dictatorship is the best form of government we could possibly have. Isn't that
claim getting a little shopworn? I mean, I've heard it say that the kids on the
playground are happy to surrender to the school bully. Was that just a slip of
the lip or is the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy secretly trying to consign
most of us to the role of its servants or slaves? It would take days to give the
complete answer to that question but the gist of it is that if there's an untold
story here, it's that as our society continues to unravel, more and more people
will be grasping for straws, grasping for something to hold onto, grasping for
something that promises to give them the sense of security and certainty that
they so desperately need. These are the kinds of people the Cape Cod Commission
bureaucracy preys upon. the Cape Cod Commiss!
ion bureaucracy should stop caterwauling about what it doesn't understand.
Added to this is something else: the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy insists
that the federal government should take more and more of our hard-earned money
and more and more of our hard-won rights. This fraud, this lie, is just one
among the thousands they perpetrates.

I don't want this to sound like sour grapes, but the Cape Cod Commission
bureaucracy's cause is not glorious. It is not wonderful. It is not good. At the
risk of sounding hopelessly prudish, the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy claims
that it is as innocent as a newborn lamb. I contend that the absurdities within
that claim speak for themselves, although I should add that you shouldn't let
the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy intimidate you. You shouldn't let it push
you around. We're the ones who are right, not the Cape Cod Commission
bureaucracy. To put a little finer edge on the concept, many people have
witnessed the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy offer stones instead of bread to
the emotional and spiritual hungers of the world. the Cape Cod Commission
bureaucracy generally insists that its witnesses are mistaken and blames its
insolent excuses on wily, ethnocentrism-prone crackpots. It's like it has
no-fault insurance against personal responsibility. What's more, the Cap!
e Cod Commission bureaucracy recently stated that the Queen of England heads up
the international drug cartel. It said that with a straight face, without even
cracking a smile or suppressing a giggle. It said it as if it meant it. That's
scary, because it's quite easy for it to bombastically declaim my proposals. But
when is the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy going to provide an alternative
proposal of its own? To turn that question around, where is the Cape Cod
Commission bureaucracy's integrity? I mean, I find that some of the Cape Cod
Commission bureaucracy's choices of words in its whinges would not have been
mine. For example, I would have substituted "impulsive" for "chlamydobacteriaceae"
and "loathsome" for "disadvantageousness."

the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy's allegations have led to date rape,
domestic violence, pornography, and other social ills. Which brings me to my
next criticism of the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy. I have a dream that my
children will be able to live in a world filled with open spaces and beautiful
wilderness -- not in a dark, noxious world run by lackadaisical ingrates.

My goal is to act honorably. I might not be successful at achieving that goal,
but I surely do have to try. the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy keeps trying to
prevent me from getting my work done. And if we don't remain eternally vigilant,
it will sincerely succeed. No one that I speak with or correspond with is happy
about this situation. Of course, I don't speak or correspond with prurient,
mumpish slaves to fashion, the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy's lieutenants, or
anyone else who fails to realize that the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy's
theories carry multiple connotations, ranging from the froward (they extinguish
the voices of opposition) to the blockish (they exercise control through
indirect coercion or through psychological pressure or manipulation). I'll
probably devote a separate letter to that topic alone, but for now, I'll simply
summarize by stating that it's time to get beyond lies, dissembling, and
propaganda deliberately spread by the Cape Cod Commiss!
ion bureaucracy and act according to the plain truth. I put that observation
into this letter just to let you see that the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy
would have us believe that children don't need as much psychological
attentiveness, protection, and obedience training as the treasured household
pet. Yeah, right. We must take off the kid gloves and vent some real anger at
the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy if we are ever to call people to their
highest and best, not accommodate them at their lowest and least. Yes, this is a
bold, audacious, even unprecedented undertaking. Yes, it lacks any realistic
guarantee of success. However, it is an undertaking that we must decidedly
pursue because the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy keeps telling everyone within
earshot that it has a "special" perspective on voyeurism which carries with it a
"special" right to utilize legal, above-ground organizing in combination with
illegal, underground tactics to waste our time and money. I'm!
  guessing that the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy read that on some W
eb site of dubious validity. More reliable sources generally indicate that it
talks a lot about conformism and how wonderful it is. However, it's never
actually defined what it means. How can the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy
argue for something it's never defined? Here's the answer, albeit in a somewhat
circuitous and roundabout style: the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy managed to
convince a bunch of coldhearted pickpockets to help it instill a general ennui.
What was the quid pro quo there? My best guess, for what it may be worth, is
based on two key observations. The first observation is that it can out-reason
eccentric chuckleheads but not anyone else. The second, more telling,
observation is that the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy has gotten away with so
much for so long that it's lost all sense of caution, all sense of limits. If
you think about it, only an organization without any sense of limits could
desire to convince people that their peers are already riding !
the the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy bandwagon and will think ill of them if
they don't climb aboard, too.

Almost every day, the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy outreaches itself in
setting new records for arrogance, deceit, and greed. It's indubitably
breathtaking to watch it. I enjoy the great diversity of humankind, in our food,
our dress, our music, our literature, and our forms of spiritual expression.
What I don't enjoy are the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy's careless squibs
which irritate an incredible number of people. One does not have to prepare the
ground for an ever-more vicious and brutal campaign of terror in order to refute
the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy's arguments line by line and claim by claim.
It is a libidinous person who believes otherwise. I myself am truly not up on
the latest gossip. Still, I have heard people say that one of the Cape Cod
Commission bureaucracy's toadies keeps throwing "scientific" studies at me,
claiming they prove that the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy has mystical powers
of divination and prophecy. The studies are full of "if"!
s, "possible"s, "maybe"s, and various exceptions and admissions of their
limitations. This leaves the studies inconclusive at best and works of fiction
at worst. The only thing these studies can possibly prove is that if we take the
Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy's refrains to their logical conclusion, we see
that in the coming days, the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy will promote the
sort of behavior that would have made the folks in Sodom and Gomorrah blush. I
believe in "live and let live". the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy, in
contrast, demands not only tolerance and acceptance of its credos but
endorsement of them. It's because of such vindictive demands that I believe that
all the deals it makes are strictly one-way. the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy
gets all the rights, and the other party gets all the obligations.

Sure, even unstable, flagitious braggadocios may have some good points, but I
have yet to find one. I firmly believe that if the word "antiprestidigitation"
occurs to the reader, he or she may recall that the Cape Cod Commission
bureaucracy once tried to put the prisoners in charge of running the prison.
Think about it, and I'm sure you'll agree with me. I doubt we could beat this
into the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy's head, but I normally prefer to listen
than to speak. I would, however, like to remind the Cape Cod Commission
bureaucracy that many people think of its ornery plans for the future as a joke,
as something only half-serious. In fact, they're deadly serious. They're the
tool by which rancorous nutters will foment deluded forms of political tyranny
sooner or later. A second all-too-serious item is that the Cape Cod Commission
bureaucracy's propositions are based on two fundamental errors. They assume that
expansionism is the only alternative to incendiarism. A!
nd they promote the mistaken idea that it could do a gentler and fairer job of
running the world than anyone else. By the same token, every time the Cape Cod
Commission bureaucracy gets caught trying to stigmatize any and all attempts to
carve solutions that are neither unenlightened nor hypocritical, it promises
it'll never do so again. Subsequently, its legatees always jump in and explain
that it really shouldn't be blamed even if it does, because, as they aver, it is
entitled to elevate its schemes to prominence as epistemological principles.
"What's that?", I hear you ask. "Is it true that the Cape Cod Commission
bureaucracy's popularity is overrated?" Why, yes, it is.

I won't pull any punches here: I recently received some mail in which the writer
stated, "the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy must have known that its publicity
stunts would cause high levels of outrage and would generate many letters in
response (like this one)." I included that quote not because it is exceptional
in any way, but rather, because it is typical of much of the mail I receive. I
included it to show you that I'm not the only one who thinks that the Cape Cod
Commission bureaucracy hates people who have huge supplies of the things it
lacks. What it lacks the most is common sense, which underlies my point that the
Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy recently claimed that everything is happy and
fine and good. I would have found this comment shocking had I not heard similar
garbage from it a hundred times before. I cannot promise not to be angry at the
Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy. I do promise, however, to try to keep my anger
under control, to keep it from leading !
me -- as it leads the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy -- to convert our
children to cultural zombies in a mass of unthinking and easily herded
proletarian cattle. the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy talks loudly about
family values and personal responsibility, but when it comes to backing up those
words with actions, all it does is annihilate a person's personality,
individuality, will, and character. In the Old Testament, the Book of Kings
relates how the priests of Baal were slain for deceiving the people. I'm not
suggesting that there be any contemporary parallel involving the Cape Cod
Commission bureaucracy, but now that I've been exposed to the Cape Cod
Commission bureaucracy's initiatives, I must admit that I don't completely
understand them. Perhaps I need to get out more. Or perhaps I still wish briefly
to take a position on the question as to what extent I would like nothing more
than to compare, contrast, and identify the connections among different sorts of
brass!
bound neopaganism. And I can say that with a clear conscience because
the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy fails to consider the consequences of its
iconoclastic, pusillanimous agendas. That's just a fancy way of saying that the
Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy says that it needs a little more time to clean
up its act. As far as I'm concerned, the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy's time
has run out. Stand with me, be honest with me, and help me introduce an
important, but underrepresented, angle on the Cape Cod Commission bureaucracy's
incomprehensible dissertations, and together we'll get people to sign a petition
to limit its ability to cause trouble. We'll follow through on the critical work
that has already begun. I'm counting on you. Thanks for reading this.
7:41 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

I heard that someone has started a petetion to send onto the Selectmen
that will show the community no longer has confidence in our Finance Director?
Where or who has this to sign?
8:58 am edt 

Re: FinCom

Re: "The Provincetown Finance Department is especially good at avoiding
DOR guidelines.  How has that worked out?"



Please provide some examples as to how they are avoiding DOR guidelines.

Anything?
8:52 am edt 

Banner:

FinCom to ask Town Meeting for parking hikes & restrictions

Warrant approved Monday night

By Ann Wood BANNER STAFF

PROVINCETOWN — On Monday night the board of selectmen approved a warrant with a total of 44 articles for Special and Annual Town Meeting, which includes nixing Municipal Parking Lot permit parking in the high season and hiking parking fees, both of which were proposed by the finance committee.

Article 28, which the Fin-Com considers “alternative one,” asks the town to recommend to the selectmen that the hourly parking rate at the MPL be increased from $3 to $3.50, Grace Hall Lot upped from $2 to $2.25, and the hourly parking rate at the kiosk lots hiked from $1.50 to $2.

Its “alternative two,” in article 29, asks the town to recommend that the selectmen hike parking rates at all lots and kiosks by five percent.

Article 30 wants the town to tell selectmen to alter resident and nonresident parking permits “so that they would not be valid at the [MPL] or the Ryder Street parking kiosks between June 30, 2014 and Sept. 1, 2014. Exemptions would be made for vehicles with senior permits and handicapped permits.” The FinCom is calling this a “one year pilot project” to see if parking review can grow more than 12 or 13 percent.

Multi-tiered parking permits for the MPL and Ryder Street Lot that didn’t move forward to the traffic hearing will be brought to Town Meeting by the FinCom in article 31. It asks the town to recommend that the selectmen allow two types of parking permits. One, which would be sold at a higher rate, would allow parking at the MPL and Ryder Street kiosks during the months of July and August. “Regular permits would not be allowed to park in these locations without paying the regular rate,” it says. It doesn’t suggest what the rate for the higher priced sticker should be.

The disability commission wants $25,000 for beach access mats at the east side of MacMillan Pier beach and Ryder Street west side beach in article 27. The Pier Corp. wants to amend the Provincetown general bylaw of the non-criminal disposition of the pier in article 20. The community housing council and selectmen are jointly asking to amend the Community Preservation Committee bylaw so that 60-percent of the annual revenue funds community housing.

Five of the six petitioned articles that appear on the warrant were written by Barbara Rushmore who, in article 32, wants the town to ask the water and sewer board to remove the meter charge, which she says is about $200 per year, from water bills “and put the entire cost of running the water dept. on water usage completely. Any vacant, non-water using properties could be charged a nominal fee.”

Article 33 asks the town to ask selectmen to investigate and report on a split tax rate between residential and commercial properties “to see if the board of selectmen should change to a split tax rate as a revenue measure and for fairness’ sake,” Rushmore wrote.

In article 34, Rushmore wants solar panels at the landfill, and is hoping voters will agree that there should be an investigation of cost and timing to install the panels and report on it at the next Town Meeting. She asks for no more war in article 35, and in article 36 wants to restore the view at Race Point Parking Lot.

“I move to see if the town will vote to negotiate with the National Seashore and remove all those manmade dunes at the Race Point Parking Lot and the Herring Cove Parking Lot,” the article reads.

Stanley Sikorski, a finance committee member, petitioned article 37, which asks for site plan reviews by special permit by the planning board for developments that will result in four or more residential units on a parcel, developments consisting of more than 2,000 square feet of new commercial area, anything with an existing or proposed drivethrough or loading dock, commercial properties with more than a 25-percent curb cut of their street frontage and all construction or excavations that move or remove more than 2,000 cubic yards of earth.

Town Meeting begins at 6 p.m. on Monday, April 7.
8:49 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort - Finance Director

Re: ". . . Mr Hoort has not worked for the Town for decades. In 2009 Mr
Hoort was on FinCom (yes, it's true) when then Finance Director Alex Heilala was
forced out. . ."



Let the facts be your friend.  Heilala left for Chatham because it was a much
shorter commute and she received a $15,000 increase.   No one forced her out, it
was her decision.

7:57 am edt 

Re: Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

Thanks and you have my support as you always have but heres the pitfalls you'll
probably need to address at candidates night and in here.
You're an ex cop and ex chief. You'll have insight as to whats needed in a new
chief. How do we know you'll make decisions which will always be in the best
interest of the town and not a friend or former co worker? How will you defend
against those that think you still work behind "the blue wall"?
Having been the chief in town and therefore worked under the former TMs, how do
we know you'll again side with the towns best interests and choose someone that
will be doing the right things for the town as opposed to what we just got rid
of, a former officer who became the TM who then was in charge of a chief that
clearly she shielded?

Tough questions but get ready. They get worse.
7:56 am edt 

Re: Tom Koumanelis- Provincetown Police Officer

"Truth and Justice ALWAYS  prevail in the end.Oh, and btw- there are
watchdogs..."



Oh give me a break. I can hear the "Star Wars" theme in the backdrop of this
grandious post. Some townspeople are movitated by honesty, some by ego, some by
bitterness. The town is far from healed, and it could easily take years to
resolve all the turmoil. Posts like this one trumpeting the righteous acts of
the "hero" at every turn are laughable. Stop wagging your finger in everyone's
face please.
7:53 am edt 

Wednesday, March 19, 2014

Tom Koumanelis- Provincetown Police Officer

"Please leave with some dignity. Your posse has all
left with skid marks"-
 


Yes. Do yourself and the people of ptown a favor. Think
carefully. NOT emotionally. Ptown is a new town full of hope and truth. I can
only think of one other person besides yourself that should exit. As far as that
person is concerned, I believe his days are numbered as well. You see, those who
do "ill will" to others only become the recipients of even greater ill will.
Truth and Justice ALWAYS  prevail in the end.Oh, and btw- there are watchdogs
making sure none of the injustices that took place in a town that exemplifies
freedom of all kinds does not take place again. That I can ASSURE you. PEACE.
10:48 pm edt 

Posted by Dan Hoort on Facebook

Thank you to everyone for the encouraging words for my running for a spot on the
Charter Enforcement Commission. I also acknowledge the comments attacking me as
a staff member running for office. I checked ahead of time to see if I could run
for office and was told nothing prevented me from doing so.

I've been called corrupt, untrustworthy, and accused of "hijacking of a town
board to wage his PERSONAL war for PROFIT and POLITICAL REVENGE" by someone who
has never met me. It doesn't make me angry, but it does make me sad that some
are so filled with venom.

To make sure I wasn't doing something wrong I called the State Ethics Commission
today and spoke to the attorney of the day. They stated it was acceptable for a
compensated employee to run for an elected, non-compensated position. If elected
I need only file a form 930 CMR 6.02 (3) with the town manager. The disclosure
form is listed on the Ethics Commission web site if you'd like to read it.

Our town charter states that a town employee may not serve in a position related
to their employment. If you've read the town charter you will find my position
of finance director is never listed, the charter never addresses the
responsibilities of the finance director.

I decided to run for the charter enforcement commission because I like to be
involved, I thought it would be fun and the commission rarely meets so the time
commitment isn't huge. I would appreciate your vote.
10:42 pm edt 

Re: It's Worse Than I Thought

" We may be atown teetering on the brink of failure but if he's on the BOS, we WILL fall off
the edge for sure."


What totally silly drama!  Even the poster couldn't believe this drivel.  Each
member has only one vote.  Get it?  One vote!  not 5, one.
10:37 pm edt 

Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

Today, I am pleased to officially announce my candidacy for a seat on the Provincetown Board of Selectman. I do not take this decision lightly. I am running because I am convinced that the people of Provincetown have lost confidence in our town. Because I have such strong feelings about what must be done, I feel that I am compelled to do all that I can to move Provincetown forward. We need to get past the last couple of very difficult years, and move towards an even better than before Provincetown. We need our people to trust again in their elected officials and those who serve to protect them. Our town has accomplished much in improving our buildings, roads and affordable housing, but the work is far from over. Together we will need to work on our year-round and seasonal housing shortage. We must bring forward a solid plan to improve our off season tourism and economic growth, while working on being fiscally responsible. I believe that with hard work and restored confidence; together we can accomplish the goals that are required to move our town forward. I suggest that we now progress beyond rumors and falsehoods that are intended to tie up the candidates’ time and energy, and focus on policies and platforms that each candidate stands for. I have been a public servant in the Provincetown community since the age of 14. I have served as a firefighter, rescue squad member, DPW employee, police officer, and chief of police. I was educated in the Provincetown school system and I hold a Bachelors of Science Degree from the University of Massachusetts. I humbly ask that you consider supporting me for a position on the Board of Selectman, in the town that I care so much about, Provincetown. Together we can move Provincetown forward.

Sincerely,
Bobby Anthony
10:35 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

Re: "The DOR guidelines are not LAW."


The Provincetown Finance Department is especially good at avoiding DOR
guidelines.  How has that worked out?

10:31 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

"Re: "The DOR guidelines are not LAW."


According to a Kopelman & Paige memo written in 2001 and found in the back of
the Provincetown Town Board Handbook, "an agency's opinion is generally given
deference by a court when it is interpreting a statute it is charged with
enforcing.  Manning v. Boston Redevelopment Authority, 400 Mass. 444, 453
(1987)." "

I guess that this is meant to imply that since someone referred to the FinCom as
a Watchdog, then it is.  Wrong.  That is the OPINION of Town Counsel- not LAW. 
No court has made a ruling on the use of the term watchdog nor have we ever seen
a description of the term watchdog. Exactly what statute is being interpreted in
a court that concerns the FinCom?  None that I know of.  So what does your post
have to do with anything germain to the FinCom?

So, the DOR calling the FinCom a watchdog means nothing in terms of the LAW
governing the responsibilities and duties of the FinCom.  The ONLY LAWS in
effect have been cited by another poster and are not being interpreted by a
court.   Wishing won't make it so.
10:28 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort - Finance Director

"What a shame that an honorable man who has worked for decades for the
town and who now wants to be on a committee is vilified beyond belief."


Mr Hoort has not worked for the Town for decades. In 2009 Mr Hoort was on FinCom
(yes, it's true) when then Finance Director Alex Heilala was forced out.

Hoort was installed by Sharon Lynn as Finance Director. Lynn bypassed several
candidates with better credentials to put a loyalist FinCom member in the
Finance Office.

When Hoort applied for the job paid  it paid $65,686.40
The new budget increases Hoorts pay to $83,538 or an increase of $17,582 per
year. That's an increase of over 30% in just 5 years.

Honorable and clever.
10:25 pm edt 

Re: Cheryl has "too much time on her hands"

As the OP of the statement, I was infering that she will meddle too much in the
towns politics and not conduct ALL business in public and in the open at
meetings. Something tells me she thinks she's THE ONE that's going to cure the
ills of Provincetown and she'll do it all by herself. That will only be trouble
for the town.

But hey, who cares now. She's in. "You get the government you deserve"
10:18 pm edt 

It's Worse Than I Thought

It's bad enough Cheryl is getting in uncontested but two of the three running
will be the next selectmen. God please, I pray it's Anthony and Richter. Martin
will be a nightmare. No knowledge of the politics of the town, not a clue about
hot topics and he will be one of the selectmen participating in the selection of
the next police chief and TM. Seriously. This is not good at all. We may be a
town teetering on the brink of failure but if he's on the BOS, we WILL fall off
the edge for sure.
3:42 pm edt 

RE: Cheryl has "too much time on her hands"

Honestly, some people will crab no matter what. "Past mistakes...hired Sharon
(but no blame for the men that also recommended her hire)...knows too
much...works too hard...is a woman...wears a hat."

Do you realize how Provincetown, as a functioning entity is close to failure? We
need Cheryl Andrews.


2:57 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

Re: "The DOR guidelines are not LAW."

According to a Kopelman & Paige memo written in 2001 and found in the back of
the Provincetown Town Board Handbook, "an agency's opinion is generally given
deference by a court when it is interpreting a statute it is charged with
enforcing.  Manning v. Boston Redevelopment Authority, 400 Mass. 444, 453
(1987)."
2:48 pm edt 

Re: Raphael Richter - BOS - Candidate

Well We Can do a write in for Raphael Richter

Even on the two year term. why not? this should have been his. He was the one
hurt and damaged by Jeff jaran--not Cherly Andrews. He now would be in and that
would be fair. but there were those in town convinced that Cheryl had a better
chance than Raphael--Well, I say: write in for Raphael Richter on the two year
term and also a vote for Raphael Richter on the three year term. He deserves it.
So unfair. And he is new blood, fresh and not part of the past that did this
town in.

He is the only one who should have been running to fill Knight's position. He
should not be declared a selectman.
2:46 pm edt 

Amy Germaine - Zoning Board of Appeals Member

Amy Germaine violated Conflict of Interest by not recusing herself
from Martin House Variance (see below from state ethics test)


Scenario:

You are an appointed member of the Zoning Board of Appeals (ZBA). A restaurant
has applied for a variance that would allow it to add outdoor seating. The
restaurant is located next to rental property owned by your spouses parents. 
May you participate in the ZBAs consideration of the request for a variance?


You are an appointed member of the Zoning Board of Appeals (ZBA).  A restaurant
has applied for a variance that would allow it to add outdoor seating.  The
restaurant is located next to rental property owned by your spouses parents.


May you participate in the ZBAs consideration of the request for a variance?

No, unless you comply with a written disclosure and approval process prior to
participating.

A municipal employee may not participate in a particular matter in which an
immediate family member has a financial interest.  Your spouses parents are
immediate family members and are presumed to have a financial interest because
they own property located next to the restaurant.  An exemption to the law
provides that an appointed municipal employee may participate if he first makes
a written disclosure to his appointing authority about the financial interest,
and his appointing authority, after reviewing the disclosure, gives him written
permission to participate.  This exemption is not available to elected
employees.
2:43 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort - Finance Director

ATTACKING MR. DAN HOORT

The level of attacks against, Mr. Daniel Hoort, the Finance Director of
Provincetown on some private Face Book pages are so unjust and are just dripping
with acrimony.

What a shame that an honorable man who has worked for decades for the town and
who now wants to be on a committee is vilified beyond belief.

I just don't understand this diverseness and rancor against our town employees.
One selectman resigns, the others are stepping down and not running for
election.

No wonder no one wants to be on the Citizens review board. I'd run from rather
than join any committee in this town. One will be pilloried if one isn't a
member of the mini-revolution.

How unfortunate: The article about the divisiveness in provincetown featured in
a Front page article still seems to be alive and well.
2:38 pm edt 

Re: Breaking News - Cheryl Andrews is in!

Dear breaking news.  That is not a win . Cheryl will only do this town
wrong just like before.   

This town is so sad.....
10:42 am edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

CAPE COD DOES BETTER WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING

(Too bad they don't go by towns as Provincetown has done much for creating
affordable housing)

ATENTION: The Urban Institute reports that there is not one county in the entire
United States where the amount of affordable housing matches the demand.
Nationally, there are on average 37 units of affordable housing for every 100
would-be renters.

The Cape fares a bit better in the latest statistics, which reflect 2012
numbers. We can claim 49 units of housing for every 100 renters, which still
leaves more than one out of every two families without an affordable place to
live.

Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard clock in with 32 units for every 100 would-be
renters.

At the same time, Barnstable County has the second-highest percentage of
affordable rental housing in the state, immediately behind Suffolk County, based
on the institute's methodology.
10:41 am edt 

Decisions

We are trying to decide what we will have to do because we own three condos,
live in one, and the others we rent year round. However, it is getting to
expensive to live here because I'm older and my hours are reduced at work.

Choices: We end up selling and  moving in the near future, we end up renting
summer only for the big bucks with all of the headachs and not having tenants
who think of the place as home and yet we have some financial income or we stay
as we are and struggle until we need to sell. Things can't stay the way that
they are--and how much can we raise the rent on a two bedroom apt with heat
included?

When we do leave, because going summer or weekly is a bit scary, a number of
people will be looking for apartments.
10:38 am edt 

Re: Breaking News - Cheryl Andrews is in!

Has the deadline to return papers come and gone? Too bad (if true) about Fay. He
would have been good. Cheryl has too much time on her hands and would be a bit
too controling. Running unopposed for a high seat like selectman is a sad
comentary on this town. Doesn't anyone care? On the other side of the race, I
hope we all understand that Raf Richter is the next choice. The others are a
joke.
10:37 am edt 

Re: Breaking News - Cheryl Andrews is in!

John Fay would have been a great selectmen , it's sad to think that
Cheryl  will be representing this town just by default.   This town has gone
down hill and keeps getting worse faster and faster
10:34 am edt 

Tom Koumanelis- Provincetown Police Officer Previous Reprimand

Officer Tom Koumanelis was previously reprimanded for consorting with and buying drinks for a minor in a bar. His act was witnessed and reported by a fellow officer. The act should have resulted in his being fired; however, Police Chief Jaran and Town Manager Lynn chose only to repremand
him and kept the incident under-wraps.

He is a disgrace to the good name of the Provincetown Police Department and should have been terminated with cause long ago. 
12:58 am edt 

Tom Koumanelis- Provincetown Police Officer

Please leave with some dignity. Your posse has all
left with skid marks. You and ONLY you choose to stay. Sad. I realize you are
not the shapest tool in the shed given your text messages, but are you that
challenged?
12:43 am edt 

Tuesday, March 18, 2014

Breaking News - Cheryl Andrews is in!

John Fay has pulled his name out of the BOS race against Cheryl Andrews,
which means she runs unopposed and therefore wins by default.
11:35 pm edt 

Re: Jim Palacino - Law Suit

OK ENOUGH ABOUT JAMES PALACINO- This man was NOTHING BUT A VICTIM. Any
other posts are merely the defendants and or their peers trying to conduct
damage control. TOO LITTLE TOO LATE!!  I say good luck to James and condolences
to the defenendants. Long shot for the defendant and or defendants and their
attorneys.
11:16 pm edt 

Re: Jim Palacino - Law Suit

I know jim palacino and he is the most generous and caring person, to
paint him as anything else is not only inaccurate its just sour grapes because
he had the strength and wherefore all to challenge the injustice that was dealt
him. If i didn't know him and was a juror and  just read the texts and saw what
he was threatened with i would rule for him based on that alone by someone in
law enforcement .  And would be interesting to know what if any other reprimands
this officer has had from other incidents, guess we will see that in court.
11:13 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Lighthouse

Oatsey booted Glen Enos and Det. Lobours wife from the Lighthouse because they
were trolling for information from lighthouse members. When does this crap end?
9:44 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

"You asked about qualifications for Fin Com: Here are the Department
of Revenue Guideline:


"...Finance committees were established so a representative group of taxpayers
could conduct a thorough review of municipal Finance questions on behalf of all
citizens......"


Qualifications are a representative group of taxpayers. Finance expertise is
specifically not mentioned because we have a Town Meeting form of government.
That means citizen legislator not professional legislators."

The DOR guidelines are not LAW.  The PT Charter and By-laws and acts of the
legislature are law.  please look at these LAWS.  Agreed that no expertise in
finance is required just enough votes to win. But, why do so many posters here
act like the FinCom members are more expert in finance than the rest of us. 
They are not at all, probably less than many.  Please note that the "finance
questions" referenced are town meeting articles not just anything that the
Fincom dreams up.
9:42 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

"There is a term that describes Dan Hoort's activities: GOVERNMENT
CORRUPTION."


Talk  about drama.  This is really over the top.  "corruption?"  Then you better
define corruption because we can't see it.  Political disagreement, sure. 
Corruption, c'mon
9:38 pm edt 

Re: Jim Palacino - Law Suit

"So wrong you are- This case is clear and strong."


Once Jim's case hits a courtroom, indeed we will all watch, wait and be amazed.
Amazed at how he could get suckered into believing it's a 'slam dunk'.
9:36 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

PROVINCETOWN AFFORDABLE/COMMUNITY HOUSING ACTION PLAN

http://www.provincetown-ma.gov/DocumentCenter/Home/View/620

Go to page 8 to read the "between 30 and 50 million dollars needed over the next
ten years for housing..
9:34 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

PROVINCETOWN AFFORDABLE/COMMUNITY HOUSING ACTION PLAN


Page 8 under Financing:

Level of Subsidy request to meet the identified Housing Need is between $30 to
$50 million dollars over the next ten years
for Housing.
9:32 pm edt 

Dieter Groll Posted in The Provincetown Lighthouse

Here are three Charter provisions to ponder:
---------------------
Chapter 3: Town Boards
.. Section 4: PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES
.... 3-4-2. A paid town employee shall not be a member of a town board which is ANY WAY RELATED TO HIS EMPLOYMENT. (emphasis added)
.... 3-4-3. A paid town employee with SUPERVISORY DUTIES shall not be a member of a town board which is in ANY WAY RELATED TO HIS EMPLOYMENT during his or her term of office or for at least one year after leaving office. (emphasis added)

Chapter 5: The Moderator and Elected Town Boards
.. Section 2: CHARTER ENFORCEMENT COMMISSION
.... 5-2-3. The commission shall take action only after receiving a written petition filed by a voter or voters alleging a violation of this charter by reason of an act or failure to act of the town manager, the acting town manager, the moderator, the board of selectmen, the school committee, or the FINANCE COMMITTEE, OR MEMBERS OF THOSE COMMITTEES. (emphasis added)
---------------------

Is the Charter Enforcement Commission related IN ANY WAY to Dan Hoort's employment? Well, consider this:

Dan Hoort is employed as FINANCE Director, in charge of the FINANCE Department. He is the Staff Liaison to the FINANCE COMMITTEE. The ongoing disputes between Hoort and the FINANCE COMMITTEE are legendary. It went so far that Mr. Hoort issued a press release FALSELY claiming that he was filing an MCAD complaint against Tina Trudel, Chair of the Personnel Board (who also happened to be Chair of the CHARTER ENFORCEMENT COMMISSION), and a similar complaint against FINANCE COMMITTEE Chair Mike Canizales. NEITHER of those alleged complaints were ever filed, for it was, after all, just a publicity stunt. In another publicity stunt, Mr. Hoort violated privacy laws and public records laws to release ILLEGALLY-OBTAINED private emails between FINANCE COMMITTEE members, in a failed attempt to discredit them.

Do you see a pattern here? But wait, there's more:

Nevertheless, Dan Hoort has already stated, in no uncertain terms, that NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST would exist to prevent him (or his partner, Mr. Klytta) from participating on complaints against the FINANCE COMMITTEE or it's members. Likewise, he states that he would recuse ONLY on matters involving his boss or his boss' boss. He sees NO CONFLICT in sittiing on matters involving the Board of Selectmen. Of course, the BoS are his boss' boss' bosses, so this next quote is, well, pure B.S.:

"The Finance Commitee has no supervisory role over the finance director so there is no conflict of interest in my sitting in as part of the Commission in an issue involving the Finance Committee. The only conflict of interest would involve a complaint against the Town Manager and/or the Assistant Town Manager who do have direct say over my employment. I suspect I would recuse myself in those situations."
-- Dan Hoort, 3/16/2014

There is a term that describes Dan Hoort's activities: GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION.
5:06 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

RE: It has been determined by the Finance work group that the level of
subsidy to meet the identified housing need is between $30 and $50 million
dollars raised over the next ten years for housing.


I didn't see anything about this.  Can you tell me where I can read their
minutes as to how they came up with this huge amount?
5:02 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

Just telling the truth.....

When 3 different people,off the street,ask if they can live in my garage
For the summer.......... I,d say ptown has a housing crisis.

4:59 pm edt 

Re: Jim Palacino - Law Suit

Palacino was a victim alright.  I victim of BAD legal advice!


NEWSFLASH TO THIS POSTER: You most Definitely ARE NOT an attorney nor do you
have any real knowledge of Civil Rights cases. This case is a solid case with
definitive merit. Watch, Wait and See!
4:53 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

Town Employees are not to Serve on boards or elected positions

Dan Hoort is breaking all the rules. He who always attacks others for rule
breaking is taking out papers for a position that he is not allowed to sit on.
it is the rare exception when a town employee can serve--and even here with Lynn
Martin on conservation, it is more than questionable that she does not benefit
from this.

No one who is a town employee can serve. What Hoort should do--and I would
applaud this--is resign from the Treasurer's position--what he really is--and
then run.

He needs to be removed.
4:52 pm edt 

Provincetown Police Officer - Tom Koumanelis

Well now that Scott Chovanec is leaving that leaves only one other
person who stood with the chief when the entire department voted no confidence
,,, any guess who ?????  yes Tom Koumanelis , who is the only toxic police
officer left on this police department . Its time for him to re-evaluate and
move on as well to another place so we can be left with a wonderful police
department with all outstanding officers. Its time to show mister Koumanelis the
door .
4:50 pm edt 

Re: Jim Palacino - Law Suit

I Cant help but find it funny that we now have ' self appointed "
attorney's weighing in on law suits like jim palacino. This guy was minding his
own business , did nothing wrong ends up being threatened via texts no less ( we
won't say how bright that is for a police officer lol )  maybe this police offer
should think about another line of work , what a joke and the intelligence for
doing this is mind boggling . I'm no lawyer but i would say he's got a slam dunk
case here and the facts back him up , i can't wait to see this in court
4:47 pm edt 

Re: Jim Palacino - Law Suit

Palacino was a victim alright.  I victim of BAD legal advice!


So wrong you are- This case is clear and strong. It is a infringement of civil
rights- This case if goes to trial will have an outcome in favor of the
plaintiff. No question. Yes this is just my opinion. I say wait and see. I also
say the defendants best get the best attorney's they can find. They are
definitely going to have quite a case to handle.
4:43 pm edt 

Re: Jim Palacino - Law Suit

Just Look at the Koumanelis Texting and Threats

To Jim and there is no doubt he was being harassed and threatened. Jeff Jaran
was orchestrating the Austin Knight re-election and he had his posse enforcing
who would and could put up campaigns signs. those who did not put up an Austin
Knight sign found trouble. Those who dared put up a Tom Donegan and a Raphael
Richter sign, found themselves in difficulty and the power of police was used
against many. thank you Jim for having the courage to go forward and to sue the
town on how they mishandled your case.
4:40 pm edt 

Thank You Lois Lane

Great to know the posting on Chevornac was correct. thanks for  the posting. We
need Lois on the case!
4:25 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEMANDS

A new person moves to town and doesn't even know how to register to become a
voter or that he or she can vote even though they rent.

Meanwhile, they are posting all of the facts and figures about how many people
live here, how many people have left, the "dire" state of affordable housing.

They don't know a thing about the town but,boy, they sure did a lot of searcher
about how to get on the taxpayer subsidized housing. Whew!

Reminds of the guy who told me that he did all of this research to see out the
best states with the best social programs that subsidize people--and thus he
came to Cape Cod..and slid right into the programs here in provincetown. Got it
right from the horse's mouth.

Just telling the truth.
12:33 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

Self correction:

Sorry, but the law says that all larger towns "shall".  "may" applies to tiny
towns.  Mea culpa.  It does not change anything about the PT FinCom.
11:49 am edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

AFFORDABLE HOUSING FINANCE WORK GROUP

It has been determined by the Finance work group that the level of subsidy to
meet the identified housing need is between $30 and $50 million dollars raised
over the next ten years for housing.

Just imagine is this group put this money towards operating the town--how much
less our taxes would be. Read the report, taxpayers, the town is being geared
towards all income going for affordable housing.

What about using this money to finance the school? The infrastructure of the
town? To take help relieve the financial burden on the taxpayers?

$30,000,000. to $50,000,000.00 in the next ten years. Are you ready to watch
this happen, taxpayers?
11:47 am edt 

Jim Palacino Law Suit

Palacino was a victim alright.  I victim of BAD legal advice!
11:45 am edt 

Housing Facts Beg Hard Questions

EVERY SIX MONTHS THE HYSTERIA STARTS EVERY
TIME A NEW PERSON GETS SOME INFORMATION.


These are some very very alarming facts.

1.In the decade spanning the years 2000 through 2010, Provincetown's small
year-round population declined 14.3% from 3,431 to 2,942,

2.the number of housing units far exceeds the total population of the town,
where that number of housing units rose 15% while the population dropped 14%,
and where nearly 54% of the housing stock remains vacant during the winter
months

3.If these trends go on, soon in less then 20 years Ptown will no longer have a
viable sustainable population to support it's summer time work force needs. And
20 years is a very generous amount of time, some estimates say trends will
increase not decrease, so 10-15 years is very likely.

So my question, what is the town doing in regards to zoning to stop this trend?
11:43 am edt 

Re: Affordable Housing
 
HOUSING IN PROVINCETOWN

How many years ago was it front page news about the "rooming" house that sold
and all of these people displaced..and the truth is that the landlord gave them
months of advance notification. Some of these people could have bought house
when they came to town over 30 years ago.

Year after year now there is this housing crisis thrown up at people. They talk
about the houses standing empty in the winter--yet there are folks who come down
weekends to their homes.

People who rent want the hard working families who own homes and are struggling
to hold on here and provide for their own families to subisize housing for
people who want to come here to live and who rent here.

Housing summit with 60 people and they want all of the resources in the town to
go to them and the few thousand taxpayers are supposed to open up their wallets
to them. This is the gist of the situation no matter how you paint it.
11:39 am edt 

Why Would Anyone Want to be on a Committee?

Why would anybody join any board when your every move is halted in its tracks.
Why does your whole life have to become servant to a volunteer position? If I
had to forgo so many personal freedoms, I would want to get paid heartily for
the loss. Committee members can't socialize, town employees can't express their
opinions. It's shameful on ALL sides of the rhetoric. It's completely out of
control and makes me not want to participate at all My mom used to say to me
"Ain't nobody studyin' you." as a way to communicate that I was not the random
center of anyone's focus. Looks like everybody is studyin' everybody now.
11:33 am edt 

Re: Fincom

You asked about qualifications for Fin Com: Here are the Department of
Revenue Guideline:

"...Finance committees were established so a representative group of taxpayers
could conduct a thorough review of municipal Finance questions on behalf of all
citizens......"


Qualifications are a representative group of taxpayers. Finance expertise is
specifically not mentioned because we have a Town Meeting form of government.
That means citizen legislator not professional legislators.
11:29 am edt 

Re: FinCom

One of the critics of Fin Com on this blog wrote this:

"By the way, someone asked for some info on the particular financial expertise
of each member of our ConCom"


Who might write ConCom when they meant FinCom?

Any guesses??? I don't think we need Sherlock Holmes to solve this caper!!
11:27 am edt 

Dan Hoort - Acting Town Manager

Why isn't the acting town manager doing anything about Dan Hoort's
latest actions? Oh, thats right....they are friends. If we can't relie on things
to be handled in house, than we need to bring it to the town counsel's
attention. I agree with a previous poster that Hoort should be fired because of
all his medaling on Facebook and and threatened lawsuits against the Finance
Committee and the town. he should be neutral on his opinions especially as a
highly paid town employee in such an important position. I will sign the
petition also. Add him to the list of recent needed changes to town
employees....town manager, police chief and the finance director all appointed
by Lynn!
11:25 am edt 

Re: Sean Harrington Resigned From FinCom

 "Goodbye. You were always a plant for others. How tragic you are."


I don't know why Sean left, but it just might be because of attitudes like the
above.  Nothing but a personal attack.  Not a word about his ideas. Attitudes
like this are the true tragedy of trying to work with others to make PT a better
place.

Everybody hat serves in PT knows and respects some other people in town.  Many
people agree with the philosophy of government that others have, so they
associate with them.  Is that so wrong?  Are they "plants" because they agree
with people with whom you disagree?  Are you a "plant" because you express
opinions shared by some other posters here?  I don't think so, and neither do
you.
11:21 am edt 

Re: Town Hall War on FinCom

"Read the Charter and By-laws then you will know the only facts that
really apply to the FinCom.  Those are the laws, not a handbook not a DOR
statement can change that.  The FinCom can only legally do what our Charter and
By-laws allow"



The Finance Committee is created by state law. Legal power is from the State,
the charter can only expand not reduce state powers. The town hall war on Fin
Comm in the end will fail miserably.
11:19 am edt 

To: Candidate Martin

Wayne what are your thoughts on our unfunded liability?    Should we fund it or
unfund it to save some money?

I could sure use a tax break.
11:17 am edt 

Re: FinCom

This may be long and boring, especially to those who want things to be
as THEY wish, not the way the laws have them. It is the sections of state and PT
law regarding the FinCom responsibilities and duties;  Unless you find something
different, this is it.  These are the laws that we must abide by.  Handbooks are
not laws.  Mass DOR text is not law.  These are the laws:

Mass  General Laws Chapter 39 Section 16
Section 16. Every town whose valuation for the purpose of apportioning the state
tax exceeds one million dollars shall, and any other town MAY, by by-law provide
for the election or the appointment and duties of appropriation, advisory or
finance committees, who shall consider any or all municipal questions for the
purpose of making reports or recommendations to the town; and such by-laws may
provide that committees so appointed or elected may continue in office for terms
not exceeding three years from the date of appointment or election.
In every town having a committee appointed under authority of this section, such
committee, or the selectmen if authorized by a by-law of the town, and, in any
town not having such a committee, the selectmen, shall submit a budget at the
annual town meeting.

Comment:  This is the only state law regarding Finance Committees except for Ch
40 sec 6 which deals with the Reserve Fund.  Note that the law clearly states
that towns MAY have FinComs, not do, or must.
Note also that the law clearly states that a FinCom shall submit a budget to
Town Meeting, if authorized by a by-laws of the town.  PTs by-laws do not
authorize this.

Town of Provincetown  Charter Section 7: The Finance Committee
6-7-1
There shall be a finance committee as provided by G.L. c. 39 s 16, consisting of
seven regular members and two alternate members appointed by the moderator for
three-year overlapping terms so arranged that the terms of at least three
regular members shall expire each year, provided that no more than one alternate
members term expires in any given year.
15
6-7-2
The finance committee shall exercise the powers and duties prescribed by the
Massachusetts General Laws, the Provincetown General By-Laws, and this charter.
6-7-3
A member of the finance committee shall not be a member of any other town board

Comment: This is all the Charter says about the FinCom. Note there is nothing
about Watchdogs or oversight.

7-2-12
The town manager shall prepare and present to the board of selectmen all annual
and capital budgets of the town except the budget of the school committee.

Comment:  Nothing about the FinCom here.


Town of provincetown By-laws

5-2. The Finance Committee.
5-2-1. Hearings and recommendations on warrant articles.
The Board of Selectmen, immediately after drawing up the warrant for a Town
Meeting, shall refer to the Finance Committee all articles contained therein.
The Finance Committee shall arrange and hold public hearings, so that citizens
interested in any article may be heard. The Finance Committee, after due
consideration, shall report in writing to the Town Meeting on each article that
may affect the town's financial status. In each case, it shall make such
recommendation as it feels best serves the interests of the town.
5-2-2. Review of proposed expenditures.
The Finance Committee shall annually review town expenditures for previous years
and those proposed for the year ensuing. To facilitate such review, all persons
having budgetary responsibility shall submit data for review in such form and in
such detail as the Finance Committee shall prescribe. The Finance Committee
shall provide for each account under review the amount it recommends be
appropriated and shall add thereto such explanation and suggestion as it deems
desirable and appropriate.
5-2-3. Access to financial records.
The Finance Committee shall have access to all records needed for the discharge
of its duties. Such records shall include all books in which Town accounts are
kept and all bills and vouchers upon which money has been, or may be, paid from
the town treasury. Upon request from the Finance Committee, every person
responsible for the keeping of  town records and accounts shall provide such
facts, figures and records as the Committee may require.

Comment: Note that the FinCom Is limited to money articles only. Also, the part
of reviewing expenditure is under the section review of proposed expenditures . 
It is for purposes to help in making recommendations for the Town Meeting, not
as a watchdog.

From The Official policies of the town of Provincetown:

To respond to extraordinary and unforeseen financial obligations, the Town has
established an annual budget reserve in accordance with the provisions of
Massachusetts General Law,Chapter 40, §6. The amount set aside annually within
the budget of a town cannot exceed five percent of the tax levy for the
preceding year
11:01 am edt 

Re: Case in Point

"This may be the case if Clarence agrees with your opinion.  Issues are
very onesided when he exerts his power to edit as he sees fit.  Case in point, the
lawsuit that his friend James Palacino has filed against the town.  No opinions
that portray Palacino as a manipulative, self-serving will be posted. 

The blog master can manipulate public opinion as he chooses.  He should
his own personal position aside and post opposing views.  If he chooses to
defend Palacino, that is fair, but give the readers on opportunity to know what
we are up against."


This man was a victim-btw-he is anything but what you posted-he is benevolent
and does so much for so many in this town - it is apparent this poster is Tom
Koumenalis or Jeff Jaran.  -His lawsuit against the town was long overdue- as
well as against Tom Koumenalis-
1:44 am edt 

Re: Case in Point

The lawsuit that his friend James Palacino has
filed against the town.  No opinions that portray Palacino as a manipulative,
self-serving XXXX will be posted.  The blog master can manipulate public opinion
as he chooses.  He should his own personal position aside and post opposing
views.  If he chooses to defend Palacino, that is fair, but give the readers on
opportunity to know what we are up against.


Good point.  The blog master chooses to support his friend when he feels his
political/free speech rights are infringed upon, but when the town finance
director exercises his right to run for office the blog master chose to publish
a post that calls for him to be terminated for exercising his right.
1:41 am edt 

Stop & Shop

Just so everyone knows, the Stop & Shop has NO CORNED BEEF on St. Pats
day.  The guy in the back says they'll have it tomorrow.  Oops.
1:38 am edt 

Detective Scott Chovanec to Resign

ATTENTION: LOIS LANE WAS 100% CORRECT AND WAS SPOT ON. Dt. Scott Chovanec, of the PPD is leaving the force at the end of this month. he is resigning. he was the MPO on the pier and a boating enthusiast.
1:15 am edt 

Monday, March 17, 2014

Re: FinCom

"I think this is pretty clear, as it's from state law and advisory,
that this is the role of Fincom. It's quite clear. So those of you "experts"
spouting off should actually learn how to Google something before you opine.
There is a long
tradition of this being the responsibility of Fincom and the one in this town
is, right now, doing an admirable job. Again, if in doubt, GOOGLE IT."



So,if "it's from state law" then you should be able to use your famous Google
skills to find the state law and give us the exact citation. Good luck and make
sure that you start early in the morning and clear your calendar because you'll
be searching fruitlessly all day.  THERE IS NO STATE LAW THAT SAYS THAT A FINCOM
IS A WATCHDOG WITH ANY RESPONSIBILITIES OTHER THAN GRANTED BY TOWN CHARTER AND
BY-LAWS.  Now, please, with all due respect, put up or shut up. State the law or
drop the subject.

Fincoms can be great for a town when they know their job and study the budget so
that reasonable explanations of the budget can be made to Town Meeting.

By the way, someone asked for some info on the particular financial expertise of
each member of our ConCom.  It has yet to be posted.  Any chance that they have
no particular financial education and experience in municipal finance?  Of
course, that does not mean that they are not capable of learning.  There is no
law that requires that FinCom members have any qualification about municipal
finance or law.  There are no tests for them other than getting enough votes.
4:12 pm edt 

Dan Hoort Can't Run for an Elected Position

He is fortunately or unfortunately finance Director. He can't run for an elected
position. Do you think he could run for selectman? No and he can't run for
Charter Committee either. It is a conflict of interest and goes against the
Charter that obviously he and his partner--also running for an elected position
on the Charter committee--want to change.

This man is a big fat problem. Sharon hired him and we still have the dregs. He
was a supported of Jeff Jaran and he continues to do the dirty work for too many
still in office.

Clean house now. He should be the next to go.
4:07 pm edt 

Sean Harrington Resigned From FinCom

And I am happy about this. He was a Candyland front and façade and it was all
about him and him. I am so glad he is gone, gone, gone from FinCom. He took all
the oxygen out of the room. and he was only concerned with his voice, his ideas,
his presence on PTV.

Goodbye. You were always a plant for others. How tragic you are.
1:44 pm edt 

What About a Happy St. Patrick's Day From PBG!

It is not a straight or gay celebration. It is St. Patrick's Day and let's all
celebrate together.

How insulting! How insular! How inappropriate!
1:42 pm edt 

Re: War on FinCom From Town Hall

"Regarding the WAR ON FICOM FROM TOWN HALL

Google this phrase:

Massachusetts Finance Committee watchdog role"


First of all, here is no war on the finance committee. To discuss matters is not
a war.

Second, I did Google what you said.  I got many reference to the exact same
thing.  A statement from the Mass DOR that refers to the Handbook of the
Association of Finance Committees.  Not a single reference to a law that says
that finance committees are Watchdogs.  None.  Not a single one.  So maybe you
can tell us the section of Mass general Laws that defines this.  IT DOES NOT
EXIST.  The only definitions of the LEGAL roles of Finance Committees exist in
the By-laws and Charters of the cities and towns.  You can describe some of
these legally spelled out duties any way that you choose, but that won't change
the law(and, remember that we are a nation of laws)

Read the Charter and By-laws then you will know the only facts that really apply
to the FinCom.  Those are the laws, not a handbook not a DOR statement can
change that.  The FinCom can only legally do what our Charter and By-laws allow
it to do.
1:41 pm edt 

Re: It is a Blog

"It remains a collective venue to speak one's mind, say what one feels, assert
positions and analyze town problems."



This may be the case if Clarence agrees with your opinion.  Issues are very one
sided when he exerts his power to edit as he sees fit.  Case in point, the
lawsuit that his friend James Palacino has filed against the town.  No opinions
that portray Palacino as a manipulative, self-serving            will be
posted.  The blog master can manipulate public opinion as he chooses.  He should
his own personal position aside and post opposing views.  If he chooses to
defend Palacino, that is fair, but give the readers on opportunity to know what
we are up against.
1:38 pm edt 

Re: Only in Provincetown

"So let me get this right, the same town attorney that approved the
chiefs contract and with all his protection are the same ones orchestrating his
all edged firing so we can pay ALL the legal bills......what's wrong with this
picture? They are the ones profiting and were left paying the legal bills."


No, you did not "get it right".  You are totally and completely wrong. "the same
town attorney" has NO power or legal authority to approve any contracts in PT. 
That is authority is ONLY with the BOS that we elect. period.  Nothing more to
add.

It would be great if the people who are constantly complaining here had just a
wee bit of knowledge of the law that governs the town.  The complaints may be
legit but the responsibility should be put exactly where it belongs.
12:31 pm edt 

FinCom vs Jaran Contract

"The town tried to reach a settle with Jaran. He refused and wants
mediation. For this debacle and the ensuing cost, don't blame Fincom for
pointing it out, blame the lawyers who signed off on the stupid and ridiculous
contract that we gave him."

 
Blame the lawyers?  For what?  The BOS approved the contract.  How did his
contract differ from other Chiefs on the Cape or in Mass.?

Most layers that work for town or corporations give their bosses what they want. 
The BOS hires the town counsel.  It is the legal responsibility of ONLY the BOS. 
Town Counsels will always give opinions to the town that the town wants.  They
want the boss to be happy with them so that they will be rehired the next time
the job is bid.

So, if you don't like the town Counsel, let the BOS know it.  Lobby against it. 
Get allies.  That is the ONLY way.  Complaining has never worked.  Posting your
lonely opinion on blogs has never worked.
12:28 pm edt 

Posted in the Provincetown Lighthouse

Dear BOS,

I am reading in the Banner about your recent discussions concerning the sale of the Grace Gouveia Building. By reducing the purchase price and taking inventory of the rental units immediately, as proposed by David Goldman, principal of New Boston, you are circumventing the system. Although I acknowledge you are not expending funds by reducing the price you are in a sense giving a subsidy (in lieu of New Boston Venture applying for CPA funds). And by giving New Boston Venture a subsidy you are not giving the Town Meeting voters the opportunity to be heard. CPA funds can only be appropriated by town meeting vote. Furthermore at STM held April 2, 2012 Article 4 was brought forth to amend Article 4  by giving the BOS the option of selling the Grace Gouveia building not for top dollar but for less for "year-round affordable housing or other community socially beneficial use"  was voted down. The amendment addresses the very thing you are attempting to do. I am including the article and amendment for your review. There was also a motion to amend the resolution which I did not include since it had no bearing on the vote
.
Article 4. Sale of the Grace Gouveia Building and the Community Center.To see if the Town will vote to authorize the Board of Selectmen to acquire by eminent domain, for title clearing purposes, the following two parcels of Town-owned land: the parcel of land with improvements thereon located at 26 Alden Street, shown on Assessors Map No.12-1 as Parcel No. 34, and commonly known as the Grace Gouveia Building, and the parcel of land with the improvements thereon located at 46 Bradford Street, shown on Assessors Map No.7-2 as Parcel No. 62, and commonly known as the Community Center Building, and, further, to authorize the Board of Selectmen to file a petition with the General Court for special legislation, if necessary, to perfect the Town's title to the aforementioned parcels; or to take any other action relative thereto. [Requested by the Board of Selectmen and the Town Manager)Barbara Rushmore moved to amend article 4 by adding the following resolution to the end of the article as a
recommendation to the Selectmen: The Community Center and the Grace Gouveia Building and the activities therein have been important assets for bringing our community together and are regarded fondly so we ask our Town Manager and staff to sell the Grace Gouveia Building and Community Center not for top dollar, but to sell them for year-round affordable housing or other community socially beneficial use.
Motion to Add Resolution Does Not Pass. Motion Passed.

I urge you to not reduce the price of the Grace Gouveia building and to allow it to flow through the proper channels. Town voters had the opportunity to say yes to a price reduction to use the property for affordable housing and they voted no. Please do not go against the will of town voters.

Respectfully,

Robert Klytta
Provincetown
12:24 pm edt 

Re: Sale of Surplus Property

"The town should not let our surplus buildings go for pennies on the
dollar."


How about 100 pennies of the dollar?  Also, the market sets the value of
property not the assessors.

The FinCom can do NOTHING to stop the sale of town property NOTHING AT ALL.  it
has no legal power to do anything.  All it can do is TALK.
12:20 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

Nice to have all the words about the role of Finance Committees,
especially those highlighted.  Of course the only REAL role of the finance
Committee is that given to it by law.  All the adjectives in the world, such as
"watchdog" are nice but carry zero legal weight.  The PT finance committee role
is very narrow and it consists of recommending action on money articles to the
town meeting, managing the rserve fund and working with the BOS to possibly
transfer funds from various budgets at the end of the fiscal year.  THAT"S IT. 
NO MORE.  the DOR and Association of Finance Committees can use the word
WATCHDOG as much as they like, but it has no standing in the law.  This is how,
in most every town, there is a constant battle with the finance committee and
other parts of the government.  Rarely are members very knowledgable about
finance.  Usually they have axes to grind about what they see as the use of
taxes without the benefit of legal authority to do anything ab!
out them except as outlined above.  The Town Manager makes up the budget and
then works with the BOS to tweak it and resents it to the FinCom.  The FinCom
has no power to add and subtract from it, only to make recommendations to Town
Meeting which can do as it chooses with the budget.

If you think that there is more that is the legal function of the FinCom, then
please cite the law, not merely a description.
12:17 pm edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

PLEASE REMIND ME AGAIN, EXACTLY WHY DO WE NEED THE CAPE COD
COMMISSION?

I don't know how to tell you this, but innocent children have been brainwashed
by the Cape Cod Commission's salacious agendas. Before I launch into my rant,
permit me the prelude caveat that the Cape Cod Commission's inveracities are
based on a denial of reality, on the substitution of a deliberately falsified
picture of the world in place of reality. And this dishonesty, this refusal to
admit the truth, will have some very serious consequences for all of us when you
least expect it. If you ask the Cape Cod Commission if it's true that its
theatrics do not pass muster by any objective standards, you'll just get a lot
of foot-shuffling and downcast eyes in response. Once it becomes clear that by
an odd twist of fate, with the Cape Cod Commission's morals, simple credos like
"check your sources" and "argue the other side of the question" have gone out
the window, it becomes apparent that the Cape Cod Commission will stop at
nothing to devastate vast acres of precious farmland.!
  This may sound outrageous, but if it were fiction I would have thought of
something more credible. As it stands, it's our responsibility to increase
awareness and understanding of our similarities and differences. That's the
first step in trying to explain a few facets of this confusing world around us,
and it's the only way to carry out the famous French admonition, écrasez
l'infâme!, against its publicity stunts.

Should this be discussed in school? You bet. That's the function of education:
To teach students how to purge the darkness from the Cape Cod Commission's
heart. Let's conduct a Gedankenexperiment. Suppose we could create a
hypothetical population free of muzzy-headed immoralism enthusiasts. Let's
assume, furthermore, that the Cape Cod Commission were powerless to treat people
like craven, drossy rakes. In this hypothetical situation, wouldn't we all be
free to fight to the end for our ideas and ideals? Let's make this dream a
reality. Let's get people to realize that the picture I am presenting need not
be confined to the Cape Cod Commission's politics. It applies to everything it
says and does.

The Cape Cod Commission just keeps on saying, "We don't give a [expletive
deleted] about you. We just want to distract attention from more important
issues." According to the Cape Cod Commission's distortions, distractions, and
outright deceptions, anyone who resists the Cape Cod Commission deserves to be
crushed. Fortunately, most of the people who are seriously interested in
preserving our civilization know that the reality is that the Cape Cod
Commission's intent is to prevent us from asking questions. It doesn't want the
details checked. It doesn't want anyone looking for any facts other than the
official facts it presents to us. I wonder if this is because most of its
"facts" are false.

Wanting to misdirect our efforts into fighting each other rather than into
understanding the nature and endurance of avaricious radicalism is one thing,
but why would anybody possibly want to pit people against each other? Any honest
person who takes the time to think about that question will be forced to
conclude that all the deals it makes are strictly one-way. the Cape Cod
Commission gets all the rights, and the other party gets all the obligations. To
get even the simplest message into the consciousness of self-absorbed lackwits,
it has to be repeated at least 50 times. Now, I don't want to insult your
intelligence by telling you the following 50 times, but by refusing to act, by
refusing to pursue virtue and knowledge, we are giving the Cape Cod Commission
the power to violate its pledge not to cause wishy-washy subversion to gather
momentum on college campuses. the Cape Cod Commission has called innocent
children scary, flippant shirkers to their faces. This was not a !
momentary aberration or a slip of the tongue, and hence, we can safely say that
it believes that those of us who oppose it would rather run than fight. The real
damage that this belief causes actually has nothing to do with the belief
itself, but with psychology, human nature, and the skillful psychological
manipulation of that nature by the Cape Cod Commission and its snotty stooges.
The irony is that the Cape Cod Commission's most judgmental snow jobs are also
its most self-aggrandizing. As the French say, "Les extremes se touchent."

The Cape Cod Commission can go on saying that a richly evocative description of
a problem automatically implies the correct solution to that problem, but the
rest of us have serious problems to deal with that preclude our indulging in
such drugged-out dreams just now. Under these conditions, I once overheard the
Cape Cod Commission say something quite astonishing. Are you strapped in? the
Cape Cod Commission said that space aliens are out to lay eggs in our innards or
ooze their alien hell-slime all over us. Can you believe that? At least its
statement made me realize that the main dissensus between me and the Cape Cod
Commission is that I believe that the Cape Cod Commission is allergic to any
idea that isn't confused. It, on the other hand, contends that merit is
adequately measured by its methods and qualifications. the Cape Cod Commission's
ravings are a house of mirrors. How are we to find the opening that leads to
freedom? Here's the answer, albeit in a somewhat circui!
tous and roundabout style: the Cape Cod Commission's list of sins is long and
each one deserves more space than I have here. Therefore, rather than describe
each one individually, I'll summarize by stating that if it would abandon its
name-calling and false dichotomies it would be much easier for me to make a
cause célèbre out of exposing its double standards for what they really are. Now
that this letter has come to an end, I hope you walk away from it realizing that
the Cape Cod Commission plants false evidence to incriminate its adversaries.
12:10 pm edt 

BOS Candidate Mr. Martin

Seems that Mr. Martin was in court very recently on larceny charges. I hope this
gets printed in that it is public knowledge through the court information. One
simply needs to look in the right places and ask the right questions. I'm also
the one that posted the link to the selectmens process of choosing the last TM.
The voting public needs to know ALL of the info on a candidate prior to the
elections so we know who we're voting for.
11:56 am edt 

Sunday, March 16, 2014

Question - Oatsey H Rogers Posted in the Provincetown Lighthouse

Is Sean Patrick Harrington still an alternate on the FinCom?
11:46 pm edt 

Re: Jeff Jaran - Only in Provincetown

"Jeff Jaran did want to settle. He wanted for his contract to be bought
out for
one year and to get medical and then he would be gone. but it was Elaine
Anderson and Eric yingling who would not agree to any deal with Jaran. they
viewed this "offer" as a gift, as if Jaran was being rewarded and they wanted no
part of this. Well, and now what? We now face legal fees and more and more
months  in negotiation and even more legal fees.

best to settle and to do it now. You don't have to be a fan of Jeff Jaran to
know that settling this case is best for the town and best for all of us.

It is poor thinking that settling this case means Jaran is being "rewarded." No,
it is being ended and we can all move on."




I do agree in essence with this post. What i find ALARMING is that Elaine
Anderson was the one who would not take a stance at the june 10th BOS meeting
and actually downplayed the internal affairs report on the texting incident.
Elaine Anderson served to create an atmosphere in the town that Sharon nor the
Cheif could do NO wrong back then. Elaine Anderson speaks from both sides of her
mouth. Had she done what was right back then as well as McChesney instead of
making their snide remarks regarding a very alarming serious act that had taken
place involving our chief, a sergeant and our Town Manager, things might have
turned out differnently.  Elaine and David NEVER DID say what there DIFFERENT
conclusion was . They were as much to blame and still are. If I have learned one
thing above Elaine in particular is she looks out for number uno - Elaine.
Unfortunately she does not look down the road and look at the ramifications that
can take place. Tom Donegan is very careful as to !
what he says and does not say. It is quite apparant there is a huge disparity
between Elaine and Tom's intelligence and wisdom.  Just my opinion.
11:31 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

Please see Massachusetts Department of Revenue.  "A Guide to Financial
Management for Town Officials"

http://www.mass.gov/dor/docs/dls/publ/misc/town.pdf

See page  29

5.1:WHAT ARE THE BASIC ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF
THE FINANCE COMMITTEE?

The finance committee is the official fiscal watchdog for a town. Because it is
difficult for all taxpayers to be completely informed about every aspect of a
towns finances,
finance committees were established so a representative group of taxpayers could
conduct a thorough review of municipal
finance questions on behalf of all citizens
11:27 pm edt 

Re: Fincom

See http://www.mass.gov/dor/docs/dls/publ/misc/town.pdf

page 29:

5.1:WHAT ARE THE BASIC ROLES
AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF
THE FINANCE COMMITTEE?
The finance committee is the official fiscal
watchdog for a town. Because it is difficult
for all taxpayers to be completely informed
about every aspect of a towns finances,
finance committees were established so
a representative group of taxpayers could
conduct a thorough review of municipal
finance questions on behalf of all citizens.

I think this is pretty clear, as it's from state law and advisory, that this is
the role of Fincom. It's quite clear. So those of you "experts" spouting off
should actually learn how to Google something before you opine. There is a long
tradition of this being the responsibility of Fincom and the one in this town
is, right now, doing an admirable job. Again, if in doubt, GOOGLE IT.
11:15 pm edt 

Re: From: Stan Sikorski - By-Law Amendment Erroneous Decision


To whom ever cares to know the truth.

Since I am the resident that is being vilified by the false statements below I would, for the record like to correct the miss-information I am being credited with.

1. I never made the statement, NEVER that 2000 cubic yards would fill a line of dump trucks from Provincetown to Wellfleet. Robert B. Ours largest dump truck that you see driving around town working on the sewer is 26 feet long, I know because I measured one today, and holds between 18 and 20 yards of sand so using the higher number 100 dump trucks would hold 2000 cubic yards which would add up to 2,600 feet parked front to back. One half mile of dump trucks.

2. I Never mentioned 3 story buildings the height of a building in irrelevant in an excavation. What I said was that 750 cubic yards would allow for three full basements for a building of the dimension of 24ft x 36ft with an 8 foot ceiling which would require a 7 foot deep excavation with one foot above grade.

If you do the math, and I have,

24ft x36 ft = 864 square feet 864 square feet x 7 feet ( the excavation depth)= 6048 cubic feet

1 cubic yard is 3 feet x 3 feet x 3 feet = 27 cubic feet

6048 cubic feet divide by 27 cubic feet (1 cubic yard) = 224 cubic yards (1 full basement on a building 24ft x 36ft)

224 cubic yards x 3 = 672 cubic yards which is 3 full basements 24ft x 36ft x 7ft with a cement pour that is 8 feet tall to put the building 1 foot above ground give you a full basement.

672 cubic yards + 78 cubic yards = 750 cubic yards


As to the need to raise 50 million dollars of revenue, maybe we should find a better way then turning Provincetown into the Jersey shore to do it.

It reminds me of the Colonel in Vietnam who said, “We had to destroy the town to save it.”


Jonathan Sinaiko

11:13 pm edt 

Re: Jeff Jaran - Only in Provincetown

"Brace yourselves.  If it goes to a court jury" YOU will have wasted a
lot of money just to lose!!!!!  The real story in a court of law will look so
lame. And when that happens, you can be sure Jaran and Hurd will then counter
sue. Priceless! Just follow his arbitration. Funny thing - Rick Murray of ALL
people will be able to beat his chest because he told us so!!
11:09 pm edt 

Lorraine's

LORRAINE's is reopening at 338 Commercial Street... Is that the place
where Karoo Cafe was?? So happy that Lorraine's is back. I've missed my
Blackened Seafood Tostada! Enjoy.

PJ
11:08 pm edt 

Re: From: Stan Sikorski - By-Law Amendment Erroneous Decision

Stan,

I support you argument on keeping the yardage theshold high for a special
permit. But I think you may have your math wrong.
Using a construction calculator I ran some numbers. A cellar hole of 26 ft. X 40
ft. Actually needs to be bigger than that so I used 36 ft x 50 ft.

36 ft x 50 ft= 1800 sq ft.

1800 sq ft x 8 ft high =14, 400 cubic ft.

14,400 cubic ft ÷ 27 cubic ft. (A cubic yard) =533.33 cubic yards

And to get to 2, 000 cubic yards you need a hole 135 ft x 50 ft.

135 ft x 50 ft = 6, 750 sq ft

6, 750 sq ft x 8 ft high = 54, 000 cubic ft

54, 000 cubic ft ÷ 27 cubic ft= 2000 cubic yards.

Thats a mighty big hole.

And I think the number of truck loads is illrellavent since the issue here is
with the land not the traffic.

If we are going to discuss this at Town meeting can all parties please get the
math correct?

A Rat In The Basement
11:06 pm edt 

David Gardner - Acting Town Manager

I have been so incredibly impressed with our Acting Town Manager! He's
been great! Sure wish he'd consider the TM job! He doesn't take anyone's crap.
He's standing up to them more than Sharon Lynn ever did!!
11:04 pm edt 

Re: Jeff Jaran - Only in Provincetown

The Chief committed "egregious" acts. Sounds like this post was
written by a total drama queen. I'm telling you you're "drama meter" will fall
flat in an outside arbitration. Three outside arbitrators looking at this union,
this BOS and the politics in this town, case closed! Jaran walks away with his
retirement. In the real world, a vote of no confidence by this PPD will only
show the Chief was by the books. Step outside of Ptown and you will hear..
11:02 pm edt 

FinCon vs Town Hall

Regarding the WAR ON FICOM FROM TOWN HALL

Google this phrase:

Massachusetts Finance Committee watchdog role
11:00 pm edt 

Experience Doesn't Mean Everything
 
I would rather see men or women as part of the BoS with no ties to problematic
existing entities than to have a candidate with twenty years of experience and
their hand out. We all have seen that having friends and prior relationships to
town employees DOSE NOT WORK with some current members of the BoS and X TM Lynn.
So let's have some new people that won't ask or give favors in short people with
back bone that cant and wont be bought!

    GOOD LUCK Mr. FAY and MARTIN
10:58 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

"FinComm is, as intended by the State legislature, supposed to
perform an "oversight" function. They act as financial "watchdogs"  they are
expected to use their knowledge of finance,together with a critical eye, to help
guide the average voter through the complexities and pitfalls of municipal
finance."

OK, your turn.  Please cite the section of mass law that states that the PT
Finance Committee is supposed to be a watchdog.  Also, please tell us where is
it written in law that the Fincom members know anything about finance?  All I
can find is hat they must receive more votes than others.
Please also tell us the financial expertise of each member of the current
fincom.  From my vantage point they know little about the charter and by laws
that govern their role.
2:54 pm edt 

Re: Jeff Jaran - Only in Provincetown

"what's wrong with this
picture? They are the ones profiting and were left paying the legal bills. I
think the Chief will win after all I read from Deitor Groll posted on FB months
ago. This is unreal."


Expand on that. The Cheif committed aggregious acts. . He also has 2 other suits
against him from two local plaintiffs. The police union voted 'no confidence" 
What more do you need. Please.Your propaganda is hilarious and so lacking in
substantial viablility.  Deitor Groll's post was more than an analysis that did
not give a conclusion the cheif would win . Read it again. Dietor would love
your reaction to this. Thanks.  Seems to me there are numerous postings as of 
late assuming the cheif will be vindicated. The chief has many hurdles ahead of 
him. I say- push it and see it to the end . I hope the most recent lawsuit goes
to court and Jaran, kim ,Sharon and koumenalis are all required to participate.
This case is much larger than most realize. If it  does go to a jury decision,
brace yourselves.  The chief in my opinon was much more involved in this as well
as the town's practice of acceptance of this behavior. Courts do  use these
cases to make very clear, intentional decisions to set strong precident.The internal
affairs investigation gave Jaran a free pass. Not suprising is was done by a subordinate
to Jaran. Lets once and for all end all the hearsay and delve into this with the intention
to leave no stone unturned. Time will tell. My call is the chief is gone for good. The two
lawsuits by the two civlians are VERY serious. Hang in there . The truth will be
told.
2:47 pm edt 

Re: New BoS

"Looks like it will be Richter, Martin and Fay that will be in for our
next Selectman...PROBLEMS SOLVED."



Hey, Mr. Wizard! Glad you've got it all figured out. Now, we're ready to watch
you jump of the Monument and fly! Hope you're cape holds up. That's an
inexperienced bunch of guys you'll have sitting around the dias.
2:42 pm edt 

Dan Hoort

Run! Dan! Run!  I am 'breathless' in anticipation of the transition from
martyred public employee to elected public official.
2:41 pm edt 

Dan Hoort

I think we should start a petition and have Dan Hoort removed as
Finance Director. I will sign as we all others that see a need for change. The
TM is gone, Jaran is gone, and now we need to voice our displeasure and latest
actions from Mr. Hoort.
2:39 pm edt 

From: Stan Sikorski - By-Law Amendment Erroneous Decision


Dear Friends and Neighbors,


This e-mail is intended to inform you about an erroneous decision made during the October 2013 Special Town meeting and the need to change it back to the Planning Board’s original proposal. Specifically Article 4, Section 4015, number 5 highlighted in
RED below:

Article __: Zoning By-law Amendment: Site Plan Review

To see if the Town will vote to amend the Provincetown Zoning Bylaw, Article 4, Sections 4015 as follows:

4015. Site plan ReviewbySpecial Permit

a. The following developments shall require SitePlan Review by Special Permit by the Planning Board:

(1) developments consisting ofthe aggregateofresidential units thatwill result in fouror more residential units on any parcel;

(2).developments consisting ofmore than2,000 square feet ofnew commercial area;

(3).development ofproperties consisting ofan existing or proposed drive-through facility or raised loading dock;

(4).development ofcommercial properties thathave curb cutsgreater than 25% oftheir existing or proposed streetfrontage;

(5). All new construction or additions or any excavation, land removal or earth moving ofmore than 750 2000 cubic yards thatwillalterthe topography from natural grade, whether or not subject to a building permit;


To explain further, the Article was introduced by the planning board with a 2000 Cubic Yard excavation limit. In other words any construction project requiring excavation of more than 2000 cubic yards would require a special building permit from the Provincetown Planning Board. The intention behind this limit was to give our planning board greater insight on larger projects before they were approved.


This article was introduced towards the end of the special town meeting. The attendance was low to begin, by that time this article was reviewed many residents had already left the meeting.

A town resident proposed an amendment where 2000 cubic yards would be further reduced to 750 cubic yards. He went on to describe the volume of 2000 cubic yards as being equivalent to a line of the largest dump trucks from Provincetown to -Wellfleet or Orleans (between 5,000 and 7,000 trucks).

This example was false. Further it was false and exaggerated by several orders of magnitude. In other words 2000 cubic yards fits in 80 trucks not 5,000 to 7,000 trucks.


His proposed lower limit of 750 cubic yards was also described with great exaggeration. This resident stated that 750 cubic yards was equivalent to the volumes of 3 3-story buildings, which is more than reasonable for any residential home.

Actually an excavation of 750 cubic yards is just enough for a basement of 26 feet by 40 feet. It does not include excavation for a septic system, driveway, utilities, landscaping, Propane tank, etc. This size basement would only support a house between 1000 and 2000 square feet (depending on how many levels).


In summary the 750 Cubic yard limit forces most residential building projects to seek a special permit,this was not the intent of the Planning Board. Development with a special permit is more difficult, expensive and risky.

Under a special permit any project can be stopped at any time by a disgruntled 3rd party and tied up in court for years. It is unfair to owners of building lots in Provincetown, it robs them of the value of their property.

Also this 750 cubic yard limit reduces a significant source of new revenue to Provincetown at a time where we need to fund over $50 million in unfunded town employee retirement liabilities and important new infrastructure projects such as new police station, pier renovation, additional parking, more year round affordable housing and much more.

Please help us to change this article back to more reasonable limit of 2000 cubic yards. WE need your participation and support at the following 2 meetings

1. MMarch 27th public hearing to review this and other proposed bylaw changes (Time and room TBD soon) April 7th town Meeting.

Finally please forward this e-mail to your friends and neighbors who are interested in this important change.


Best regards,


Stan Sikorski


Cell: 508 367 8085
- Please call anytime if you have questions


PS: I will follow up with another e-mail soon, containing technical documentation from Coastal Engineering confirming above statements regarding the volume of 750 cubic yards.

2:36 pm edt 

Re: BREAKING BREAKING NEWS !!!! Posted in the Provincetown Lighthouse

Oatsey doesn't know what he speaks of and neither does this blog most
times  Chovanec isn't going anywhere  Expect to see him in a PPD uniform after
"the end of the month!!" drama queens.
2:21 pm edt 

Re: New BoS

Are you kidding me? How can you -- or anyone -- predict the election this far
out? The election cycle, my friend, has only just begun!

2:12 pm edt 

New BoS

Looks like it will be Richter, Martin and Fay that will be in for our next
Selectman. I think this is a great thing they are all strong individuals with
ties going back years in the town. There is also very little chance that any of
them could be bought or let the problems that already exists in our town
continue. Lets show them our support as well as the two Selectman that remain
from the old board to get our town back on its feet.

   PROBLEMS SOLVED!
10:26 am edt 

Documents Request

Did we ever get a report on Vince's records request for e-mails?  I'm
pretty sure I haven't seen anything so I assume there was nothing there.  I
wonder how much we had to spend in legal fees to find that out.
10:19 am edt 

Saturday, March 15, 2014

Finance Director - Dan Hoort

Dan Hoort should be fired over his latest actions. He can't let his
ego work with FinCom.           .
11:11 pm edt 

Jeff Jaran - Only in Provincetown

So let me get this right, the same town attorney that approved the
chiefs contract and with all his protection are the same ones orchestrating his
all edged firing so we can pay ALL the legal bills......what's wrong with this
picture? They are the ones profiting and were left paying the legal bills. I
think the Chief will win after all I read from Deitor Groll posted on FB months
ago. This is unreal.
11:08 pm edt 

Re: BREAKING BREAKING NEWS !!!! Posted in the Provincetown Lighthouse

Thanks for the Breaking News--Now it's time for the Other to Leave

Maybe Koumanelis will decide that he too should leave and follow Chovenac. this
is good that Chovenac is resigning. He was one of two to support Jeff Jaran. Now
let the other leave as well. then the Police Department can start to be united
in its purpose and have cohesion and unity.

good news. thanks for the update. I look to hear more!
10:25 pm edt 

To All the Grammar Critics

It's English, not english. The word English is a proper noun or proper adjective
and should be capitalized.  Now get a life and move on.

"Stop picking on people grammar!" He said while picking on someones grammar.

English, english...whatever it is it certainly isn't "enlish."

Now take your own advice.  Get a life and move on.
10:06 pm edt 

Posted in the Provincetown Lighthouse

BREAKING BREAKING NEWS !!!! just in from Lois Lane : Det. Scott Chovanec, of the PPD is leaving the force at the end of this month. he is resigning. he was the MPO on the pier and a boating enthusiast.
9:55 pm edt 

Re: Regarding Jaran's Mediation

No, No, wrong on This POint

Jeff Jaran did want to settle. He wanted for his contract to be bought out for
one year and to get medical and then he would be gone. but it was Elaine
Anderson and Eric yingling who would not agree to any deal with Jaran. they
viewed this "offer" as a gift, as if Jaran was being rewarded and they wanted no
part of this. Well, and now what? We now face legal fees and more and more
months  in negotiation and even more legal fees.

best to settle and to do it now. You don't have to be a fan of Jeff Jaran to
know that settling this case is best for the town and best for all of us.

It is poor thinking that settling this case means Jaran is being "rewarded." No,
it is being ended and we can all move on.
9:04 pm edt 

Tom Coen to Dieter Groll Posted in the Provincetown Lighthouse

Hi Dieter, I hope attached document adds some clarity to the discussion about what the Charter Enforcement Committee can has jurisdiction over with regard to the FinCom. This is an excerpt of a reference document I put together in 2009. The only bit that's out of date is the size of the committee which is now 7 + 2 alternates.

You'll note that most of the references related to activities the FinCom must perform and the time frames involved. E.G. Section 2-1-9 "At least seven days prior to the annual town meeting, copies of the town report shall be made available for distribution at the town hall, and at least seven days prior to any town meeting copies of the finance committee report shall be made available at the town hall."

Provincetown Finance Committee References in the Town Charter and General By-Laws

November 5, 2009 Page | 1

Charter References

Chapter 2 THE TOWN MEETING AND ELECTIONS

Section 1: Preparation of the Warrant

2-1-9 At least seven days prior to the annual town meeting, copies of the town report shall be made available for distribution at the town hall, and at least seven days prior to any town meeting copies of the finance committee report shall be made available at the town hall.

Section 3: Conduct of the Town Meeting

2-3-10 Prior to a vote on an article concerning the expenditure of town funds, the finance committee shall state the number of its members in favor of and opposed to the article, and its chairman, or his or her designee, shall explain the view of the majority to the meeting.

Chapter 3 TOWN BOARDS

Section 4: Prohibited Activities

3-4-7 A member of the board of assessors, the finance committee, the personnel board, or the school committee shall not receive any payment from the town except reimbursement for vouchered expenses pertaining to town business.

Chapter 5 THE MODERATOR AND ELECTED TOWN BOARDS

Section 1: The Moderator

5-1-3 The moderator shall appoint members to the finance committee and personnel board, subject to the provisions of section 3-1-2 of this charter.

Section 2: The Charter Enforcement Commission

5-2-3 The commission shall take action only after receiving a written petition filed by a voter or voters alleging a violation of this charter by reason of an act or failure to act of the town manager, the acting town manager, the moderator, the board of selectmen, the school committee, or the finance committee, or members of those committees.

Chapter 6 APPOINTED TOWN BOARDS

Section 7: The Finance Committee

6-7-1 There shall be a finance committee as provided by G.L. c. 39 s 16, consisting of nine regular members and two alternate members appointed by the moderator for three-year overlapping terms so arranged that the terms of at least three regular members shall expire each year.

Provincetown Finance Committee References in the Town Charter and General By-Laws

November 5, 2009 Page | 2

6-7-2 The finance committee shall exercise the powers and duties prescribed by the Massachusetts General Laws, the Provincetown General By-Laws, and this charter.

6-7-3 A member of the finance committee shall not be a member of any other town board.

Chapter 7 THE TOWN MANAGER

Section 2: Powers and Duties

7-2-3 The town manager, with the approval of the board of selectmen, may transfer the powers and duties from one department or office to another and, with the approval of the finance committee, may transfer the appropriation of one such department or office to another.

Chapter 9 FINANCIAL PROCEDURES

Section 1: The Annual Budget

9-1-5 The board of selectmen shall consider the tentative budget submitted by the town manager and make such recommendations relative thereto as they deem expedient and proper in the interests of the town. On or before the thirty-first day of January of each year the board of selectmen shall transmit a copy of the budget together with their recommendations relative thereto to each member of the finance committee.

9-1-6 The board of selectmen and the finance committee shall jointly hold one or more public hearings on the proposed budget not less than twenty-one days before the town meeting at which it is to be submitted for adoption.

9-1-8 The budget shall first be subject to amendments, if any, proposed by the finance committee before any other amendments may be proposed.

Section 2: The Capital Improvement Program

9-2-3 The town manager shall submit the capital improvements program to the board of selectmen by the third Monday of December prior to the annual town meeting. The board of selectmen shall act thereon or before the thirty-first day of January and shall then submit it to the finance committee, which shall issue its recommendations as part of its printed report on the annual budget.

9-2-4 The finance committee shall publish, in one or more newspapers of general circulation in the town, the general summary of the capital program and notice stating:

(a) the times and places where copies of the capital improvement program are available for inspection; and Provincetown Finance Committee References in the Town Charter and General By-Laws

November 5, 2009 Page | 3

(b) the date, time, and place, not less than seven days following such publication, when the committee shall conduct a public hearing on said program.

Section 5: Lapse of Appropriations

9-5-2 In the final three months of any fiscal year, no division, department, commission, office or agency may expend, except for amounts previously encumbered, more than one-twelfth of its annual appropriation in each of those three months, except with the approval of the finance committee.

8:56 pm edt 

Dieter Groll on Provincetown Finance Director Dan Hoort

Dieter Groll Timmer, good question. FinComm is, as intended by the
State legislature, supposed to perform an "oversight" function. They act as
financial "watchdogs"  they are expected to use their knowledge of finance,
together with a critical eye, to help guide the average voter through the
complexities and pitfalls of municipal finance.

As we all know, over the past couple/few years the FinComm has really stepped up
their game  much to the chagrin of Mr. Hoort. Now, I can't speak to the specific
reasons for Hoort's unexplainable  indeed, often inappropriate and inexcusable 
behavior towards this Committee. Based on what I've read in the papers and seen
in the meetings  and this is only my opinion  he clearly DOES NOT like anyone
looking over his shoulder and second-guessing him. Don't get me wrong 
thankfully, I believe that this has everything to do with Hoort's ego, and
nothing to do with having something to hide. Of course, neither of these are
"qualities" that a town's Director of Finance should exhibit  no matter how much
of a financial "wizard" one is, or claims to be  for both of these are very
dangerous indeed.

In short, Hoort and his partner Klytta apparently perceive FinComm as a severe
threat to their PERSONAL FINANCIAL POSITION, should Hoort lose his job. This, I
believe, is why these two seem to have been so consumed over the past year or so
with undermining that board.

Now, I am not a lawyer, but from what I can tell, under the Charter, the CEC and
the Moderator are the ONLY ENTITIES than can adversely impact the members of the
FinComm. Perhaps Hoort and Klytta erroneously feel that by securing a 40%
"voting bloc" on the CEC, it will give them a "leg up" on their greatest
perceived threat. If so, they are sadly mistaken, because the state's Ethics
laws are aimed specifically against that type of corruption. The reality is that
they will only be able to act on matters involving the School Committee. Period.
Any actions beyond that, in my opinion, places both themselves as well as the
Town in jeopardy, and I would LOVE to see Town Counsel attempt to spin an
opinion to the contrary.

But this is where, I believe, Hoort's ego and desire for personal financial
stability gets in the way of the Town's best interests yet again, for he has
already, over the past several months, shown complete disregard for the state's
Conflict of Interest laws, so it is not a stretch at all for him to think
himself as somehow "immune" to them, and to the Open Meeting Law as well.
8:48 pm edt 

Vincent Currier Posted on Provincetown Lighthouse



Provincetown Board of Selectmen and Lt.Golden, acting police chief: Rehire Donald Thomas...
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1:47 pm edt 

Catherine Russo Posted in The Provincetown Lighthouse

This is fabulous, a must read. It helps explain why the wage stagnation in Ptown is so bad for the community. Employers are not paying a wage that is sustainable for year rounders. The foreign workers help keep the wages low, there are plenty of them and they will accept less.
RSA Animate - Crises of Capitalism
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1:39 pm edt 

Vincent Currier shared a link.in Provincetown Lighthouse


Yea for Liz Lovati, she put the questions being asked on the political forums on
the table at this meeting. She is a great addition to this committee. She is
aware of what is being rumored and is answering the questions. The beginning of
the meeting was excellent as well, about bullying. If you have asked questions
about the administrative overhead on the school budget, this meeting will answer
them.

School Committee Meeting; March 11, 2014
view.earthchannel.com
11:58 am edt 

Friday, March 14, 2014

Re: Regarding Jaran's Mediation

The town tried to reach a settle with Jaran. He refused and wants mediation. For
this debacle and the ensuing cost, don't blame Fincom for pointing it out, blame
the lawyers who signed off on the stupid and ridiculous contract that we gave
him. Does anyone think having the same law firm in town for *30 years* is weird?
Where else do you know of this cozy relationship? Do you think that the past TM
and employees now treat them as their own personal attorneys or do you think
they're objective enough to give sound advice? And if they give sound advice,
why are we spending all of this money to get out of Jaran's contract? Fincom
suggested the assignment of town consel go out to bid and I couldn't agree more.
Enough with all these cozy relationships. And for the people who disparage
Fincom, what's wrong with this expenditure suggestion? Enough with the "I don't
like the Fincom Chair". BooHoo put your big boy pants on and deal with the
actual issues and not the personalities. What other town would put up with 30 years
with the same attorneys, especially ones that gave them the Jaran contract?
They should be summarily fired.
7:31 pm edt 

Posted Provincetown Voice's Facebook Page

"Cass Benson They should put a camera there and give tix to people who don't
observe it. Good revenue opportunity as many think it is good sport to go thru
without stopping instead of slowing down."



Really??? Cameras giving moving violations in Provincetown. Photo enforcement of
traffic and ????

No wonder the Provincetown Schools are a mess.
7:28 pm edt 

Sharon Lynn = Disaster


She hired Barney Fife wannabe Jaran. She needs to step up and pay all of the
fees we are left.  Or better yet, his buddy Austin Knight!
6:21 pm edt 

Pay Back

So, Michelle, Cheryl, and Ann were responsible for the hiring of Sharon.

Let's put a lien on Michelle's business, Cheryl's practice, the many holdings of
Ann. Why should the taxpayers be responsible for paying off the ex-chief.

This was Sharon's blunder.... let those who hired her pay the freight.

Your girl left us holding the bag.....pay up!
6:20 pm edt 

Cheryl Andrews
 
Stick to dentistry! Your political decisions have proved horrible for the town.

Stick to what you know....teeth.
10:49 am edt 

To All the Grammar Critics

It's English, not english. The word English is a proper noun or proper adjective
and should be capitalized.  Now get a life and move on.
10:16 am edt 

Mini Revolution - Winter action

With all of the sound and Fury about the police, I would imagine that the
citizen review board would be jammed with people like the selectman's meeting
where that group denounced the chief.

Didn't hear much about all of the weekly gathering of the clan at different
restaurants where you overwhelmed the staff with your staggering numbers. How
did that go?

Wow. You all jammed the housing summit...what 35 people showed up and they want
to create housing for 400 people? How much will the taxpayers be spending on
this?
10:14 am edt 

Dorm-Style Affordable Housing - No Give away!

The town should not let our surplus buildings go for pennies on the
dollar.  The community center should not be sold for less than half of its
assessed value.  It is easily worth 2 or 3 times that amount and it is
irresponsible for the BOS to dispose of an asset at a fraction of its value. 
Furthermore, dorm-style housing does not fit the definition of affordable
housing.  When Ted Malone attempted to convert the building next to Mac's
Seafood into dorm-style housing under the affordable housing rules he was
turned down.  Why suddenly does it fit the definition of affordable housing? The
Finance Committee is doing the right thing to stop the process.  The process
that was initiated was a failure.  There should be more than one proposal to
select from but it appears some are so entrenched in the process that they are
unwilling to admit it is failed.  They need to re-think the process and try to
solicit proposals that make sense for the town or put the properties for sale on the
open market and consider getting something closer to full market value.
10:12 am edt 

It All Makes Sense

Sarah Peake, Michelle Couture and Cheryl Andrews, oh yeah, and Ann McGuire were
all for Sharon Lynn.

Politics is a business of favors. The agenda of these people were ensured by
Sharon for favors behind closed doors.  They reek of corruption.

We as a town suffered under the incompetence of these women. A man didn't have a
chance, because Sharon was in their pockets.

They don't care about this town......only what can be done for them.

These are the facts folks.....Anyone for another round of corruption and greed?
12:09 am edt 

Let's Hope There is Not a Hidden Sharon-Lynn -Like Candidate....

.........that the committee decides it wants even before interviewing the other
candidates. but somehow this group--with Austin Knight selected individuals--and
I fear Jeff-Jaran-supporter and broker Rob Tosner makes me a bit uneasy of this
committee. but hope still exists inspite of how this committee came to be.
12:08 am edt 

Police Chief

If there is any remote chance the Police Chief (Jaran), wins his appeal, I think
we should all gather and start a rally to show him that we do not want him.
12:03 am edt 

Re: Regarding Jaran's Mediation

This talk on this blog and FB of buying out Jaran's contract so the
town can move on is a little too late. Jaran's arbitration is already in motion
which means one of two things - Jaran's termination was just and proper OR it
wasn't. And if it wasn't, there's no buy out. He's reinstated. There's no
mediation nor will  Jaran's legal counsel advise any such thing. Sometime back,
Dieter Groll  was articulate in explaining Jaran's contract. I think he's right.
We're screwed.
12:00 am edt 

Thursday, March 13, 2014

Posted by Oatsey H Rogers in the Provincetown Lighthouse

From Senator Lisa Murkowski: "Today’s Senate approval of the Homeowner Flood Insurance Affordability Act means flood insurance premiums will remain stable & FEMA now has to improve the quality of its flood mapping."
9:28 pm edt 

Very Well Done Obit for Billie Smith
 
Well written and captures this man's interests, loves and his life--all in these
few paragraphs. Sad to hear of his passing. also liked the photo of him too!
8:51 pm edt 

Seems We Get Information and Interesting Stories Here

That's why I like reading it. It is a daily must! Truth be told, I read it at
least three times a day. Great stuff, really.
8:47 pm edt 

Re: I Disagree

"It is a small town and you pay a price, sometimes rather severe, for
disagreeing with those in power. Just remember those who suffered when
they went against Chief of Police Jeff Jaran. and even those who went against Sharon Lynn. they paid a price and here town residents and others can lend their voices to the issues
they believe in. Critical thinking is important to a democracy and this blog, I
believe, allows this to occur."


PERFECTLY SAID!!
7:07 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

"It strikes me odd that someone continues to drone on about the alleged
middle aged slackers who dare try to get affordable housing. What makes them
less deserving then a family of four?"



The ageism expressed in this sentiment us just vile.

Further, it's more then oblivious that many of the wealthy who own homes are
middle aged...including myself. Get a life.
6:52 pm edt 

Re: English as a First Language

"Wake up Provincetown--This is a Summer Resort Town. It closes down in
the Winter. Sure the banks, post office, insurance companies, trades men, and a
handful of bars and restaurants are open..but Commercial street appears dead for
all intensive purposes."

I don't know about others, but whenever I see the phrase "wake up" I always
think of right wing wackos and their silly stuff about WAKE UP AMERICA.  Of
course they meant we should worry about the "RED MENACE" not PT housing.  Not
implying anything about the poster, just my immediate thought.

I'm sure that the poster meant to write "for all intents and purposes".  Just a
typo and no indication of lack of knowledge about english usage.
5:36 pm edt 

Re: New Candy Land Soldier

Another screaming example of the silliness here.  Is the poster who
broke the news about the new candy land soldier going to clarify, or is this
simply another bomb thrower.  If you intend to communicate, then do so, but not
in some cryptic code-like fashion.
5:31 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

Isn't it illegal to talk about town issues when you are not in a open
meeting???  Seems I have seen  Fincom members having private meetings outside of
the open meetings
5:29 pm edt 

For the Bos Candidates

I wish you the best to make this town better ,
Wayne Martin is a joke,  Bobby Anthony you had your time in government, Cheryl
Andrews, we gave you.a chance , Mr, Richter running a cab company , John Fay bow
out now before you become like all the rest. You have A good business and
respected in town , I am sure you could win but you winning would,hurt you and
your business,   I sincerely wish the best for this town but don't see it
getting any better real soon .
5:27 pm edt 

Re: Town Staff's War on FinCom Continues

If we're spending taxpayer money $$$$ over legal costs, it should be a
matter of the finance committee! If you disagree with that, than why even bother
having a FinCom
5:20 pm edt 

Re: I Disagree

I can understand worrying about retribution.  But, is the point to
express your opinion and ideas about town government, or to be snide and mean
spirited to individuals with whom you disagree?  Would we have as much nastiness
if there were IDs?  If people kept their posts to ideas and policies and there
was less BS about cabals and back room deals there might be less retribution. 
Bringing personalities into every discussion gets people POd and leads to anger
and defensiveness.  Just because some people in power like and respect people
that you don't like, does not mean that they are doing back room deals and
indulging in chicanery.  Talk about performance and competence.
5:15 pm edt 

Re: Regarding Jaran's Mediation

Rather than pay for all of this costly foolishness over the Chief, why
isn't the town negotiating to buy him out rather than rolling the dice. In the
end, this mess could cost us taxpayers a fortune. To make matters worse, I'm 
sure there even be a civil suit to boot!  If we don't want him, pay him and lets
just move on! I can't imagine that the Chief wants to be here and we want him
out = a savings to the town. What the hell!!! That's unless the appeal process
is already underway. Can't the town just negotiate a settlement and allows us to
move on? Hire a new town manger and find our new chief! Stop the finger pointing
and do what's best for the town.
5:11 pm edt 

Ongoing: Retaliation for Performing its Watch Dog Role

Breaking news: A new candyland soldier stepped up but the same old tired tactic.
It seems the new candy land soldier could have done something more dramatic?
57 Days until May 8


Curious if everyone finds open meeting laws a nuisance, nothing more.  Open
meeting laws were implemented to bring transparency to town government.  Why
does the FinCom chair have such an issue with government transparency?

Don't blame the individual who filed the complaint, blame the Committee and its
chair who should know better.
1:48 pm edt 

Re: Town Staff's War on FinCom Continues

From what the bylaw says, the fincom has no say in the matter of the
Jaran mess.  They can say whatever, but it carries no more weight than what we
see here.  The BOS is legally in charge whether we like it or not.  I don't know
why the town should pay for all mediators and all lawyers unless there was
something in his contract.  Maybe the rule is that the loser pick up the whole
tab.  Who has more info?

Maybe the fincom should stick to what the law says.  Stay out of jobs that are
not theirs.  This is how things get confused when egos start thinking that their
job is what they want it to be instead of what the law says it is.
1:42 pm edt 

Thanks For the Posting of the 2007 Town Search BOS Meeting

Of course Michelle couture found Guamond the least of all the candidates. That
is because he was the most articulate, had great experience and was dynamic. and
of course, Sarah Peake said "he never looked me in the eye." A blatant mistruth.
She was already a secret vote for Sharon since Sharon had already paid for her
campaign with funds and had helped host--with what a surprise Ann McQuire-- her
campaign fund raiser. And then Cheryl Andrews found she changed hare mind, even
though in the beginning she liked him. Andrews  too was part of the inner group
that were determined to have Sharon Lynn be the town manager. Even though--you
should have films of Lynn's interview--where she mumbled and tripped over
questions and held her head down and seem so "incompetent" and so unable to
respond intelligently to any of the questions asked.

Some of us where there and we were appalled. She was the weakest candidate in
the interviews but Sarah Peake, Cheryl Andrews and Michelle Couture made certain
this poorly equipped woman would get the job.

Well she did. And the rest is our sad history. and we still are living with the
ramifications.

But whoever posted this, thank you so much.
1:40 pm edt 

Re: Town Staff's War on FinCom Continues

Quite interesting about the bylaws and fincom. I see nothing about a
watchdog role or anything other than to make recommendations about money budgets
to TM.   Looks like they are kind of limited as to what they can really do by
the law.  So what is the big deal? Just follow the law and no complaints about
watch dogs or investigations on the pier etc.
1:33 pm edt 

I Disagree

I believe that this blog allows people to say what they fear and think. It is
not for vindictive purposes. you may nit like what some people state or believe
or hold true. But that is their right and they would never say this if they had
to state their name. Why? One word, my friends: retaliation.

It is a small town and you pay a price, sometimes rather severe, for disagreeing
with those in power. Just remember those who suffered when they went against Chief of
Police Jeff Jaran. and even those who went against Sharon Lynn. they paid a
price and here town residents and others can lend their voices to the issues
they believe in. Critical thinking is important to a democracy and this blog, I
believe, allows this to occur.

1:31 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

MIDDLE AGED PEOPLE CLAMORING FOR TAXPAYERS TO SUBSIDIZE THEM

Where else in America do you have middle aged people who moved to an
economically limited town of seasonal employment demanding that taxpayer
subsidize them.

Immigrants are flocking to this country to work jobs to give them a better life.
Here we have Americans who moved here into a life of chosen limited job
opportunities and did they really expect to flourish economically?

These people can't retire, they have no assets. They are in their 30s, 40s, 50s
and even older.

I just don't understand. My friends who moved here and rented said that it was
time to get into the real world and make a life for themselves. Here people live
a life os going to housing summits, badgering and badgering for more affordable
housing--and they complaining that it isn't cheap enough housing.

Wake up Provincetown--This is a Summer Resort Town. It closes down in the
Winter. Sure the banks, post office, insurance companies, trades men, and a
handful of bars and restaurants are open..but Commercial street appears dead for
all intensive purposes.

Tourists come here for other tourists, to people watch, to browse in various
shops. Remove your blinders--and see life AND THE JOB OPPORTUNITIES as they
really are.
1:28 pm edt 

Re: Airport Parking

So the finance committee wants to charge those who park at the airport when
going on a vacation.  So if I want to go on a trip, I either have to bother a
friend to drop me off and pick me up or I can take a cab.  Hmmm, If I have to
take a cab who benefits from that?  Is there anyone on the FinCom who has an
interest in a cab company?  Have they recused themselves from discussion on this
issue?  Roll the video.
1:25 pm edt 

Re: Miss Crobopple

"The statement that you choose to rip apart is perfectly good english .  Your
suggestions are also perfectly good english.  Using heel for heal is NOT
perfectly good enlish any more than mixing up there and their."


I believe you meant to say "chose" not choose as in "I chose that statement to
rip apart."  It did happen in the past after all.  Also, last time I checked
"enlish"  was spelled english. "Gee", I wonder what you left out?

I guess I should add you to the roster for grammar spelling and vocabulary
classes I will be starting up at the dog park!

In the words of Sergeant Hulka; Lighten up Francis

Miss Crobapple
1:23 pm edt 

Who Are You Talking About?

Who's the NEW candy land soldier inTown Hall? What did I miss? I see
no one or nothing new.
12:46 pm edt 

Regional School
 

P-Town tried several times in the past to enter into a regional school
agreement, but have been rejected by the other towns. It will never show in the
minutes, but I fear that the other towns are prejudiced about our outer most
village and it's inhabitants. This is very sad and it has only hurt the
education of our children over the years.
12:44 pm edt 

Regarding Jaran's Mediation

Did you see the exchange during the joint meeting of FinCom and BOS? FinComChair
is already lobbing grenades at the BOS blaming them for the impending costs of
the Jaran mediation.  THREE mediators and attorney fees just to start!  WTH,
people. They've obviously added it up, and my guess is its BIG.  I'm also
guessing the mediation process has begun by now and there's strong inclination
that Jaran might really win his appeal. Everyone in town I ask thinks an outside
mediation will reinstate him!  If Jaran wins, who is to blame for all this? 
What a thought. It's true.  It could happen.
12:41 pm edt 

Re: Town Staff's War on FinCom Continues

"Ongoing: Retaliation for performing its watch dog role.

Breaking news: A new candyland soldier stepped up but the same old tired tactic. 
It seems the new candy land soldier could have done something more dramatic?"


What?  you may know what you mean but not all do.  Explain please!

Here is the by law that governs the Finance Committee:

"5-2. The Finance Committee.
5-2-1. Hearings and recommendations on warrant articles.
The Board of Selectmen, immediately after drawing up the warrant for a Town
Meeting, shall refer to the Finance Committee all articles contained therein.
The Finance Committee shall arrange and hold public hearings
, so that citizens interested in any article may be heard. The Finance
Committee, after due consideration, shall report in writing to the Town Meeting
on each article that may affect the town's financial status. In each case, it
shall make such recommendation as it feels best
serves the interests of the town.
5-2-2. Review of proposed expenditures.
The Finance Committee shall annually review town expenditures for previous years
and those proposed for the year ensuing. To facilitate such review 5
Added by April 2000 ATM, Art 23
Town of Provincetown General By-Law
8
responsibility shall submit data for review in such form and in such detail as
the Finance Committee shall
prescribe. The Finance Committee shall provide for each account under review the
amount it recommends be appropriated and shall add thereto such explanation and
suggestion as it deems desirable and appropriate.
5-2-3. Access to financial records. The Finance Committee shall have access to
all records needed for the
discharge of its duties. Such records shall include
all books in which Town accounts are kept and all bills and
vouchers upon which money has been, or may be, paid from the town treasury. Upon
request from the Finance
Committee, every person responsible for the keeping of
town records and accounts shall provide such facts,
figures and records as the Committee may require"

That's it folks.  Nothing more.  No other powers.  None.  It is all spelled out
in the By- laws and Charter. They can be found in the town's web site.  Maybe,
instead of the Declaration Of Independence The host of this site could include
the Charter and a link to the town by-laws.  Then some folks might possibly look
before they leap.

The Finance Committee may want to take on more, but legally they can't.
12:37 pm edt 

Re: It is a Blog

"blogs are anonymous".  This is so much like too many other posts
here.  Simply made up to suit the poster.  There are literally millions of blogs
on the internet.  The common definition is "A blog (a truncation of the
expression web log) is a discussion or informational site published on the World
Wide Web"
.


Nowhere will you find any definition that claims that blogs are anonymous.  They
can be anonymous but are NOT by definition anonymous.

Having blogs that allow posters to spout lies and hate do nothing to make the
world better.  W#e have seen so many posts here that give misinformation and
when challenged never respond with facts.  If identities were known, would this
happen?  But then, if identities were required we would never know just how many
ignorant haters that there are out there.
11:36 am edt 

Re: Miss Crobopple

The statement that you choose to rip apart is perfectly good english .  Your
suggestions are also perfectly good english.  Using heel for heal is NOT
perfectly good enlish any more than mixing up there and their.
11:30 am edt 

To Selectmen Race

Are you kidding me vote for wayne Martin,  google
him ask around town he is not a suitable candidate for town  selectmen .  And
Cheryl Andrews didn't we already give her a try?????? I personally will not vote
for any candidate.  I will do a write in .
11:28 am edt 

Re: English as a Second Language

Boy Oh Boy, I guess all is well I  Provincetown, if all people have to complain
about is someones poor spelling (or possibly poor typing). Apparently gone are
the days when lively discussions about real happenings in town are posted, and
something could be learned by reading the blogs.
11:23 am edt 

Banner Article

Cape Air wants passengers to park for free

By Ann Wood BANNER STAFF

PROVINCETOWN — A proposal to charge for parking at the Provincetown Municipal Airport didn’t fly with Cape Air spokesperson Michelle Haynes.

“It has come up before; it is something we’re very concerned about,” she told the finance committee last week. “Our request to you … is that you look at this very closely and what this may do to us as a business.”

The problem, Haynes said, is that the small airline operates at a deficit seven months a year and faces stiff competition from fast ferries and cars. Free parking is a perk of landing in Provincetown, she said, adding that 80 percent of the vehicles parked there sport resident parking permits on their windshields.

Mike Valenti, chair of the airport commission, said Monday that the airline relies on — in fact it needs — 10,000 paid passengers to fly out of Provincetown to receive about $1 million in federal grants a year. The $95,000 that the town has budgeted for the airport doesn’t cover big projects required to keep it up and running, he added. Thus, a dip in passenger numbers could kill its funding and possibly the airline’s operation here.

difference.”

And yet FinCom members were adamant that a $5 or $10 parking charge wouldn’t hurt people who can afford to fly.

“You’re getting into a chunk of money that can help with a lot of priorities,” Canizales said, and seemed surprised to find that Cape Air rents parking spaces to Enterprise Rent-A-Car. “So we give you parking for free and you rent it out?”

Haynes said that she’d return with relevant financial and passenger numbers. Meanwhile Clarence Walker, another Fin-Com member, would like those who park at the airport for two or three months for free while they vacation in the winter to pay up. Haynes agreed that something should be done about that.
11:22 am edt 

Banner Article

FinCom wants to wait on surplus buildings

By Ann Wood BANNER STAFF

PROVINCETOWN — The finance committee unanimously voted last week to recommend that selectmen “pause” until May 31 before selling the town’s surplus properties so that the people can decide whether they want to use the two buildings for townowned affordable housing and to see if a committee can be formed to manage town assets.

It told the board of selectmen just that on Monday. To which selectmen chair Elaine Anderson responded that in her opinion the proposals “are in concert with the latest housing summit needs and priorities.”

The town received a single bid each for the old community center and Grace Gouveia buildings. Last week, Bill Meadows, owner of P’town Bikes, offered the town $550,000 for the community center, in which he would build dormitory- style housing for summer workers and store bicycles in the cellar. That type of housing could also serve as a hostel, he added. The building was assessed at nearly $1.2 million.

David Goldman, principal of New Boston Ventures, said it would pay $1,055,000 for the Grace Gouveia building, which is assessed at about $1.1 million. In it, the group would construct nine condominiums, three of which would be rented or sold affordably.

Catherine Russo, a FinCom member, said last week that she was concerned that the buildings would be sold before talks on affordable housing have been complete. Those buildings, FinCom members agreed, could provide the town much-needed affordable housing.

“These two big assets are never coming back,” Mike Canizales, chair of the FinCom, said at its Feb. 27 meeting. “In my mind it’s still pretty fresh in the real estate process.”

David Gardner, the acting town manager, said that this has not been a hurried process as the town has been working on readying the buildings for sale for a couple years.

“The selectmen have been working on this for more than two years,” he said. “It doesn’t feel rushed from my standpoint. It feels like everything else around here — it’s glacial.”

Clarence Walker, another Fin-Com member, said that New Boston’s proposal, which includes three affordable condos, doesn’t allow for families because they are all one-bedroom units.

“If we’re going to get some growth in this town we need a two-bedroom component,” he said.

Walker added that, though dormitory-style housing for seasonal employees sounds good on paper, if Meadows’ proposal to purchase the building for a mere $550,000 is accepted and he decides to sell it in a couple years, it becomes market-rate real estate.

“There’s no provisions on that,” Walker said.

Gardner said that if there is a public subsidy involved, the town would be protected. Anderson said Monday night that the board intends to condition the sale.

At the Housing Summit Update on Friday, Selectman Tom Donegan attempted to add an “action” item into the Provincetown Housing Action Plan which would have, in effect, directed the town to encourage dormitorystyle housing and, seemingly, Meadows’ plan.

“That’s not my intention. My intention is that we understand that dormitory style is important because it takes pressure off the year-round rental stock, Donegan said Monday by phone, adding that some homeowners rent their houses seasonally to a large number of summer workers rather than renting them year-round. He believes that putting some of those workers in a dorm could free up the houses for yearrounders.

He said he did not mean to endorse Meadows’ proposal but does think that having dormitory housing in town would help with the housing crisis.

 
11:20 am edt 

Wednesday, March 12, 2014

Selectmen's Race

Also keep in mind the next board of selectmen will have to choose a new
police chief and a new town manager. Andrews and Richter have my votes. The
others scare me. Ones an ex police chief himself, the other two have no clue
what to look for in a chief. That being said, Andrews was in on the choosing of
the town manager we just got rid of so that's nothing to brag about. Interesting
read;
http://www.provincetown-ma.gov/ArchiveCenter/ViewFile/Item/5787
11:10 pm edt 

How We Got Here


TOWN OF PROVINCETOWN - BOARD OF SELECTMEN

SPECIAL MEETING – SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 17, 2007

JUDGE WELSH HEARING ROOM

Chairman Cheryl Andrews convened the meeting at 2:00 PM noting the following attendees: Board of Selectmen

members: Cheryl Andrews, Sarah Peake Michele Couture, Richard Olson, David Nicolau

Other attendees: Tomas Groux of Groux Associates

Recorder: Vernon G. Porter

The following are meeting minutes, in brief.

1. TOWN MANAGER SEARCH PROCESS

Open discussion ensued between the Board of Selectmen and Tom Groux on what questions can be asked of

each candidate.

Board discussed some possible questions that may be asked of the candidates such as:

What do you know about Provincetown, what makes you the perfect candidate?

If you are so marvelous why do you want to leave where you are and come to Provincetown?

Experience in dealing with diversity, sexual orientation, race

What are your hobbies and passions?

What will they be looking for in an assistant town manager?

How do your start your day.

Communications with public and with town staff and volunteer boards.

Hiring of Chief of Police, Building Commissioner, Housing.

Why Provincetown is of interest to them.

The Board decided upon the following format:

1) Introduce yourself to each candidate

2) Give candidate opportunity to express himself/herself

3) One question from each Selectman

4) Allow candidate to ask question(s) of the Board

MOTION: Move that the Board of Selectmen vote to recess until 3:45 p.m.

Motion by: Sarah Peake Seconded by: Michele Couture Yea 5 Nay 0

Board reconvened in open session at 3:53 pm.

2. TOWN MANAGER SEARCH

Conduct Interviews

The board interviewed the following four candidates:

Larry Deetjen – 4 PM; Sharon Lynn – 5:15 PM; Leon Gaumond – 6:30 PM and Michael Coughlin – 7:45

PM.

Board of Selectmen introduced themselves to each candidate.

Candidates expressed thanks to Board and special thanks to the Selection Committee and Tom Groux.

Interviews ensued with each candidate gave a brief outline of why they were applying for this position;

questions from the Board, followed by question(s) from the candidates for the Board of Selectmen.

Board of Selectmen Comments

Michele Couture

Larry Deetjen – Liked his strong economy background. Responded to Sarah’s Google questions as well.

Came off as a little hostile. Had some strengths.

Sharon Lynn - Had a sense of humor. Like her comments on personnel development. Confident, articulate

and thought that Affordable Housing was important. Like her steady pacing and self-assuring and gave her

high marks.

Leon Gaumond - He rubbed me the wrong way. State experience was useful. No concrete answers. Least

impressed of all the candidates.

Michael Coughlin – Strong candidate. Impressed by his research of Provincetown and a commitment to

find out about the Community. His answers were really specific. His background .. has the skills for

Provincetown.

My two strong candidates are – Lynn and Coughlin.

Richard Olson

Larry Deetjen - Liked him - assuredness. I wasn’t overwhelmed.

Sharon Lynn - Echo all the good things I heard from my colleague. Did not see any charisma. She was

monotone. Only one tax raise in her experience? Felt her resume was misleading.

Leon Gaumond - Liked him the best. Completely subjective.

Michael Coughlin – Admired him immensely. Experience in politics.

Close call between the two but my call is Mr. Gaumond.

David Nicolau

Larry Deetjen – he wasn’t for me.

Leon Gaumond – Felt the same way as Richard did. I liked him and he as a sense of humor.

Sharon Lynn – Great things. I liked the way she talked about the bigger picture and the assessment of

situation. Also like that she was a police officer. Have to get by the flatness in the way she presents herself.

She brought up a lot of good stuff.

Michael Coughlin – What I got is that he may by the book but by a fault. Everywhere he went he had to

take a stand on.

Would like to invite back Leon Gaumond and Sharon Lynn and then Michael Coughlin.

Sarah Peake

Larry Deetjen – I’m in agreement on him. Don’t think he is for Provincetown. I didn’t think he answered

my questions to the article I mentioned.

Sharon Lynn – I liked her very much. I liked her when she applied for the Chief’s position. I see a great

power behind her. Her answers in filling the Asst. Town Manager’s position, I thought was brilliant.

Answer to people in your face .. she said people want to be heard.

Leon Gaumond - He never once met my eye. I felt that he was playing to the audience and not to us. I have

concerns about him.

Michael Coughlin - I warmed up to him. He did talk a lot. I worry that he would swamp the Board of

Selectmen with paperwork. I worry about his track record. I put him in second place.

Cheryl Andrews

I agree with all of you on the first interview. (Larry Deetjen)

Sharon Lynn - She described Provincetown as caring.

Leon Gaumond - Described our town as eclectic. Started out liking his interview then changed my mind.

Michael Coughlin – Described our town as progressive. Agree that he does come from troubled town.

When all is said and done I would have to pick – Mr. Coughlin and Sharon Lynn.

Selection of Final Two

David Nicolau - Gaumond, Lynn, Coughlin. Narrowing it down = Lynn and Coughlin

Sarah Peake – Lynn, Coughlin, Gaumond

Michele Couture – Lynn, Coughlin

Richard Olson – Gaumond, Coughlin, Lynn

Cheryl Andrews - Coughlin, Lynn

Consensus of the Board for the final two candidates are; Michael Coughlin and Sharon Lynn. Next

meeting – Friday, March 2, 2007 at 5 PM.

3. TOWN MANAGER SEARCH

Executive Session – MGL C.39§23B

The board did not go into executive session.

Motion to adjourn by Michele Couture at 9:40 PM.

Minutes transcribed by: Vernon G. Porter, Secretary

February 17, 2007

11:07 pm edt 

Town Staff's War on FinCom Continues

Ongoing: Retaliation for performing its watch dog role.

Breaking news: A new candyland soldier stepped up but the same old tired tactic.
It seems the new candy land soldier could have done something more dramatic?

57 Days until May 8
10:54 pm edt 

It is a Blog

Just look up this word. blogs are anonymous. this is what it is. I'm more than
happy to see that it is anonymous and there is not this back and forth on
personalities.

but, again, look up blog.

It remains a collective venue to speak one's mind, say what one feels, assert
positions and analyze town problems.

I'm glad that this particular blog exists. I would more than miss it if it did
not exists. I like blogs and believe they add much to our conversations.
10:52 pm edt 

A Question of Value

I am starting to seriously question the value of this site.  Sure, it
gives us some idea about what some think and how they express themselves.  It
proves that when people  are anonymous they can be cruel and thoughtless.  But,
how is it positive?  What does it do to make Ptown better for the residents and
others? I see very little positive unless of course it is positive to find out
just how narrow minded, thoughtless, vindictive, uneducated and mean so people
can be.  The constant claims and charges without any data, the very poor
english, the lack of analytical thought blows my mind.  This may sound elitist
and maybe it is.  But, I am sick of this "us vs them" stuff.  "You have it, I
want it" and "i got it and won't share" attitudes are terrible.  No discussion
no effort to try to understand another viewpoint. No ability to try to
enlighten.  "don't let the facts get in the way of a good emotional tantrum".
10:51 pm edt 

Selectmen's Race

Please put all the nonsense aside and vote for the best candidate.

1. Raphael Richter
2. Wayne Martin
3. Cheryl Andrews
4. Any write in
10:49 pm edt 

So When is Jeff Jaran's Mediation?

When will the second step take place? it should be time for this mediation
session to happen. Does anyone know the timeline? then, if he loses, he can
still go to the third step and go to Superior Court. If he wins mediation, then
guess what? He's back! He would regain his chief position and be back here with
us! that is quite the thought but it is true.

10:47 pm edt 

We Need a More Comprehensive Approach to Traffic Issues

This is not the right way to approach all of these demands. and too many demands
are narcissistic, too many have little concern for others and for the town as a
whole. It is more "I want" and then "I want" and then "I don't want." We need
traffic concerns that are good for the whole town and for all of us, not these
separate, me-centered demands.
10:45 pm edt 

A School System Should be More Than a Babysitting Site

We have brought in the wee Care to add to the numbers and to help secretaries,
assistants and administrators keep their positions. this is not about a fabulous
school system. that left long, long ago. This is the remnants of once was--and
it should be regionalized and then the students will do much better. Truro does
a great job. they are inventive, dynamic and our children should be part of that
system. We should want the best, not eat the crumbs that are left of a falling
apart school system.
10:43 pm edt 

Lives of Desperation

Year in and year out--people are living lives of desperation. No year round jobs
here to sustain a huge year round population. No one is here in the winter so
landlords rent their places in the summer.

If every summer place became year round they would be sitting empty. THERE ARE
NO JOBS.

Sure their are jobs for trades men--but this is a tourist town now--thank God.
We aren't a desperate town that is turning into a ghost town because the fishing
is over. Plenty of other places see that as their destiny.

There isn't a solution in reality. this is life here..an ever changing world and
this is what Provincetown has become. It is living its destiny.
10:42 pm edt 

Re: The Town is a Joke?

To the person who doesn't know what employee is being sued I suggest
you read the paper more. Currently there is a town officer being brought to
court for harresment there is a former employee suing the station.  We have a
acting town manager.    

Read the paper
10:38 pm edt 

To: Webmaster

I thought more of you to allow this kind of stuff to go
on.    This site should be shut down
10:37 pm edt 

Re: English as a First Language?

"We need to HEEL as a town."


May I suggest meeting at the award-winning dog park and start with grammar 101?

Here are a couple suggestions for you to consider you glass house dweller.

May I suggest "WE MEET" at the award winning dog park and "WE START" with
grammar 101?

OR

May I suggest meeting at the award-winning dog park and "STARTING" with grammar
101?

Either of the above suggestions are more grammatically appropriate ways to get
your point across.

When we do meet at the park I'll introduce you to my friend.

Pot, meet kettle.

I might be able to get you a group rate for that grammar 101 course.  By the
way, using a homophone in place of the intended word is more a matter of
vocabulary than one of grammar.

Now don't be such a "HEEL."
Miss Crobopple
10:34 pm edt 

Re: English as a First Language?

"We need to HEEL as a town."


May I suggest meeting at the award-winning dog park and start with grammar 101?
5:38 pm edt 

Very Sad

The postings on this site absolutely amaze me, people have so much to
say and are so quick to criticize behind a key board,   This page would be blank
if people had to say who they were.....I remember when this town was a close
knit community, not any more.  Seems everyone is out to get each other,   Very
sad
5:33 pm edt 

Re: Truth be Told

Calling our Wee care program for kids 6 weeks old an offensive name
has just shown how ugly you are.  And not 85 kids but 130.  Start caring about
our kids.
5:32 pm edt 

The Town is a Joke?

"I COULD CARE LESS WHO RUNS FOR THE TOWN SELECTMEN, AS LONG AS THEY CAN
FIX THIS TOWN...LOOK AT WHAT THIS TOWN HAS BECOME, A FIRED CHIEF, A TOWN
EMPLOYEE BEING SUED, NO TOWN MANAGER,  ITS A JOKE...."



I'm not sure what town employee is being sued and last I checked we do have a
town manager.  This town is a joke, but I would guess we would disagree as to
why.
5:30 pm edt 

Provincetown School System

"the atrocious grammar by the xxx and yyyyyy supporters is the biggest
indictment of the Provincetown school system."


How about the use of "there" and Their"?

Truro just hired a new School Super.  They have only 135 students.  No High
school.  Comments?  Maybe some investigator can find out the pay and how many
other people are staffers.
5:29 pm edt 

Re: English as a First Language?
 
WE NEED TO "HEEL" AS A TOWN


Do you intend us to walk slightly behind and to the left of our masters?
5:26 pm edt 

English as a First Language?

RE: Myself currently sitting on a board have been present when Mr.
martin was there. I can you unequivocally the topics of discussion had no affect
on him personally. He seemingly does truly care about his fellow man and has no
problem expressing his opinions and getting his point across. So lets start
getting our facts straight, please!
   It should be all in our best interests to make sure the people that are
running are doing it for the right reasons and we know the truth about the
candidates.
STOP ALL THE LIES AND BACK STABBING WE NEED TO HEEL AS A TOWN


Holy crap, is English a second language for some?
2:18 pm edt 

Opposing Viewpoints

I love debate! It's what makes this country great. But, the one poster who
opposes fact, makes me wonder if they are part of the system they so strongly
advocate!
12:00 pm edt 

It's a Joke

THIS PAGE SHOULD BE RENAMED LETS GO BACK TO HIGH SCHOOL CAUSE ALL THIS
PAGE DOES IS ALLOWS SMALL MINDED PEOPLE WHO ARE AFRAID TO SHARE THERE  COMMENTS
TO THE PERSONS FACE .

I COULD CARE LESS WHO RUNS FOR THE TOWN SELECTMEN, AS LONG AS THEY CAN FIX THIS
TOWN...LOOK AT WHAT THIS TOWN HAS BECOME, A FIRED CHIEF, A TOWN EMPLOYEE BEING
SUED, NO TOWN MANAGER,  ITS A JOKE....  WE NEED TO STOP BAD MOUTHING EACH OTHER
AND WORK TOGETHER.
11:59 am edt 

Eugene Fedorko Posted on Blow Hole

I hope that no one thinks that a person should not run because they
may not be qualified in someone's opinion. In most cases it seems that posters stated reasons why they should not be elected. If Mr. Fay or Mr. Martin want to run, go to it. We don't have to vote for them if we would prefer other candidates. The more people who want to serve the better. Choices are always good.
11:49 am edt 

"Bingo! "

Can we say 'bingo' in relation to this election or is that not politically
correct?
11:43 am edt 

No Condo Conversion Bans

Thank goodness. There are no Town Meeting articles hampering condo conversions
of existing multi-family homes.

It doesn't matter what happens in the future now. It doesn't matter that our
insurance company is no longer insuring properties on the cape--we found another
one.

We are not in the Flood zone.
I see a win-win in our future : )

Eventually some folks will have a choice of three condos to buy--Three
households will be able to eventually make a home for themselves here--that is
what we will be offering.
11:42 am edt 

Re: Bike Shop

What's the name of the new bike shop on Shankpainter??
11:40 am edt 

BoS Candidates
 
You have to be kidding is the same guy running that just put the VFW under and
is being investigated by the IRS. That cant be right what is he nuts does he
have any kind of idea what he is in for if by some miracle he should be elected.
He will have no credibility what so ever and make a mockery out of the BoS and
the town. I hope he is not running uncontested, PLEASE! tell me that he is not.
11:39 am edt 

VFW Site

Why is the VFW building not being utilized.. Its my understanding that several
members of the old post now having to refuse to pay there dues want to create a
new post one open to all veterans. One willing to help the town and its people
like in the past before the last bar manager and the current BoD's took over.
Perhaps it could be offered to them at a low lease cost. That way functions can
be once again be held for people that cant afford to rent out all of the other
places in town. I feel that it does nobody any good to have that building sit
there empty when can utilized to benefit the towns people and our veterans.

     SIGNED GULF WAR VETERAN
11:38 am edt 

Re: Truth be Toldn- Crazy!

One Admin Assistant can do both jobs in the Superintendent's office. 
You don't need a full time person to do the budget and pay the bills.  That
person could handle the personnel work also.  Think about it, eight hours a day
to do the budget and pay the bills for 85 students?  Crazy!!
11:36 am edt 

Fay and Martin Supporters

As far as I am concerned, forget all the salaries, the test scores,
etc.  The atrocious grammar by the Fay and Martin supporters is the biggest
indictment of the Provincetown school system.

Tip:

You're = you are, as in "You're going to have to convince me you aren't
brainless."

Your is a possessive as in "Your grammar sucks."
11:35 am edt 

BoS Selectmen Election

"It just means he may not understand the system and how it
works and how to work with others to come to a fair conclusion regardless of the
issue."



Bingo! It's all well and good to want people not familiar with the system, the
outsiders.But then, they get in there, shoot from the hip, playing rogue and are
essentially clueless...and nothing gets accomplished.

Is this what Provincetown really needs? I think not. So, great about the
hometown hero thing and all...but my vote: Ms. Andrews. We don't need another
nightmare.
11:13 am edt 

Re: Selectman's Race

This is a very important turning point for the town. We just got rid of a
nightmare and hopefully brighter times are ahead. This is no time for newcomers
and amatures to be in positions of power. We need a strong group of people to
work together and with the new TM whoever that may be. Other than Andrews, all
of the other candidates are newcomers and that means we need to focus on the
reality of who is REALLY the best candidate. I hope lots of people show up at
candidates night and ask questions. I'd like to know what the candidates think
about the pier and who should run it, their insight on the new police department
and new DPW departments. What process would they use to choose candidates for
boards and committees? Where do they stand on affordable housing and town based
funding of it? Regionalization? Where do they stand in regards to the Cape Cod
Commission? These all matter and we need answers.
11:11 am edt 

Selectman's Race

I think the more candidates the better.

I will vote for Raphael, I think he will be the best candidate for the race. I
will also support Andrews and Martin. I would vote for Fay If I hear credible
information on candidates night, however I will not support Anthony who was
chief when a fellow patrolman filed for a sexual harassment claim and won.
Please post this Clarence. I have a lot of respect for both you and Marcene but
the voters of this town need to know the past history is of current candidates.
11:09 am edt 

Re: Truth be Told

Excellent or Not

WE taxpayers are paying dearly for a rickety school system. As a homeowner AND a
taxpayer, I for one, am sick of this drain!

Kim Pike lives in Centerville! Gets a travel compensation, and a huge salary.
Her kid also goes to the school. At whose expense???

Wake up!!!
11:05 am edt 

Re: Truth be Told

Sorry but wee care or pee care is not what the town should be doing

we are not in the babysitting business. but this was done to save the
administrative positions. we are not a free lunch program either. We should be
in the education business, if we can even say business, but that is not the
priority here. Sadly. this is all about saving administrative jobs.It is over
and we should not have a$3,6 million budget for 85 kids. Use your own degree and
figure this out. It is pure insanity.

and we do not have an excellent educational program. It is ok but not great. We
would be better sending our children to other towns to be truly educated.

and $30,000 for travel for Beth Singer? does this get any more ridiculous than
this. I doubt it.
11:01 am edt 

Re: Town Counsel

Forget about the schools, we should save money by bidding out our
legal expenses. I have read a few things about it here and in conversations with
others. I like the idea of maybe even creating local jobs while the attorney
hired works in town. I agreed with others that it shouldn't be a local attorney
but hiring one to set up shop here is a win win. Leave the school alone and
concentrate on things that will make an immediate impact on our tax dollars. I'm
curious what the finance groups opinion is on this? Can anyone say?
10:58 am edt 

Re: John Fay BoS Candidate

Running a business certainly requires some skills.  In the case of Mr.
Fay he must know the ins and outs of auto mechanics.  He must know how to set
his prices.  He must have a level of people skills to work with unhappy
customers.  He must know something about the laws affecting his profession.

Being a selectman requires an ability to listen and discern the truth in
debates.  It requires a level of analytical thinking.  It requires a great deal
of patience.  It requires an ability to understand a great deal of law as
applies to town operations.  A selectman must be dedicated to long hours and
have the time to attend all kinds of meetings and functions.  A selectman must
have a never ending curiosity about organizing for better efficiency.  A
selectman must be diplomatic and understand common goals and how to best achieve
them.  Selectman must know the charter in total detail.  Selectmen must be able
to assist in hiring and firing. A selectman must be able to compromise and work
to achieve consensus on diverse issues.  A selectman must understand basic
municipal finance and some level of basic economics.

The list could go on and on.  Did you notice that it says nothing about family
history?  Did you see anything about simply "wanting" the job"?

When you decide to back a candidate and push for that person's election, think
about the job and how that person measures up to the requirements.
10:57 am edt 

Re: Truth be Told

"We do them no service by tying them to a poorly run school
system that is focused more on keeping the staff then innovating for the
students."



More opinion that the poster wants to believe is fact. We respect your right to
have an opinion, but are not convinced that you have a clue about the school
system or it's operations.
10:54 am edt 

Re: Truth be Told

"Let's Face it: The School System is a Financial disaster"


Other than just offering your unsubstantiated opinion,  can you supply us with
anything that approaches fact?
10:52 am edt 

Re: Stop & Shop

"Is stop and shop becoming a market basket??"


We can only hope!!!
10:51 am edt 

Misinformed

  Myself currently sitting on a board have been present when Mr. martin was
there. I can you unequivocally the topics of discussion had no affect on him
personally. He seemingly does truly care about his fellow man and has no problem
expressing his opinions and getting his point across. So lets start getting our
facts straight, please!
   It should be all in our best interests to make sure the people that are
running are doing it for the right reasons and we know the truth about the
candidates.

     STOP ALL THE LIES AND BACK STABBING WE NEED TO HEEL AS A TOWN
10:49 am edt 

Tuesday, March 11, 2014

To: Candidate Fay's Campaign Manager

I am glad to see more people running for the BoS but so far your not doing a
very good job! Instead of bashing other candidates or saying that your candidate
runs a business that                started and admitting that he has never been
involved in town politics you should concentrate on his good points. I think
this would better serve Mr. Fay than your current direction, just a suggestion--
good luck
12:34 pm edt 

Wayne Martin BoS Candidate

I agree. He has NOT been to any meetings unless it served him personally and has
never been part of ANY committee anywhere on the lower cape. Should that mean he
shouldn't run? No, it just means he may not understand the system and how it
works and how to work with others to come to a fair conclusion regardless of the
issue. John owns his property and owns his business and works at his business
too, all in town, so I have to give a leg up to John. He and Richter have my
vote.
12:20 pm edt 

John Fay BoS Candidate


Mr. Martin does attend meetings quite often of different boards and committees.
He also is there at town meetings where he participates and votes. So please get
your facts straight or know what your talking about instead of listening to
people that have their own agendas. John should concentrate on getting himself
familiar with town business instead of worrying about Mr. Martin's
qualifications.                                                      
                                                                                         

12:17 pm edt 

Re: Truth be Told

Sometimes what is best for our children
is that they get educated elsewhere
that they get on the bus and get the best teachers and find adventure where
great teachers are. We do them no service by tying them to a poorly run school
system that is focused more on keeping the staff then innovating for the
students. We have lost our resources and it is time to regionalize--for the best
of each and every student.
12:13 pm edt 

BoS Candidates

Why would anyone want to be a selectman? they get paid $1,000 a year,
no benefits, long night meetings, and being yelled at all of the time.

Good luck to the candidates!
12:10 pm edt 

Re: Truth be Told

Let's Face it: The School System is a Financial disaster

I agree with the postings. too much money for too little results. Is it true
that we have only 85 students but administrative assistants,
rece3ptionists?--for whom? and a principal and then another principal. We are
all for solid education but not for this unrestrained spending. It is wrong and
misdirected.
12:09 pm edt 

Re: Truth be Told

This information is a few years old. but the confusion about Singer's salary is
that she receives two part time salaries and a very large commuting allowance. A
few years ago I think her reimbursements for travel to/from Western Mass was
just under $30,000. Can anyone confirm the current information?
12:08 pm edt 

Re: Truth be Told

So let's see, we have a person who doesn't know much about how the
school is run or the budget for the school spouting off with mis-information. 
I'm no longer going to waste my time pointing out his/her mis-information so it
may go unchallenged and people may actually believe the mis-information.

Mr. Webmaster, as a member of the fiscal watchdog group, the Finance Committee,
can you explain how you posting financial mis-information helps the residents of
the town?
12:06 pm edt 

Re : Truth be Told

Not one of you trashing our schools has said anything about our
children and their learning.   Do you think International Bacculaurate is a joke
?   Do you think Sturgis, in Hyannis,  which has that curriculum and is the best
high school in Massachusetts is just a joke ?  Our kids are getting an excellent
education - start caring about them - as the next Provincetown generation - not
the nonsense you post.  Do you think it's a joke that 69% of our kids get free
and reduced lunch ?   Do you think it's a joke that Provincetown schools has a
Wee care for 6 month year olds (that is paid by fees, not the town) ?   Do you
think it's not important that our kids have Recreation through that Department ? 
Why do you not support our schools ?    What is bothering you so much about our
kids having an excellent education ?
12:05 pm edt 

BoS Candidates

I hope that no one thinks that a person should not run because they
may not be qualified in someone's opinion.  In most cases it seems that posters
stated reasons why they should not be elected.  If Mr. Fay or Mr. Martin want to
run, go to it.  We don't have to vote for them if we would prefer other
candidates.  The more people who want to serve the better.  Choices are always
good.
12:02 pm edt 

Re: Truth be Told

From the School Dept web site:

"Superintendent:  Dr. Beth Singer

Administrative Assistant Business:  Betty White

Administrative Assistant Personnel:  Laura Grandel

District Principal:  Kim Pike

Administrative Assistant:  Judy Ward

Special Needs Secretary/District Receptionist:  Ben Williams

Special Education Coordinator:  Dr. Beth Singer"

The truth is easy to get but it is much more fun to be looking for trouble by
simply making things up.

Where are the answers to all the questions that people ask the folks who like to
say anything and everything without attribution or proof?
9:35 am edt 

Wayne Martin BoS Candidate

So does wayne Martin have that experience??  No he does not.  He has
not gone to meetings I have been that and he is not been on boards, so if John
Fay should not run. Then either should martin
9:33 am edt 

Provincetown Schools

I have read allot of what appears to be at least one angry person feelings
towards the School, etc...I do believe by law, this town and other towns have to
have an elementry school, not sure on the accuracy of that law but that is
exactly what I was told once upon a time. That is why you see our neighboring
towns like Truro and Wellfleet with just that.

However, what I don't think towns like Truro and Wellfleet have is, a Supt &
Principal in the same building ? It's best whomever is posting those blogs about
closing this School, to focus his or hers attention in that direction.

I think closing (or attempting to close) this School is not one of the better
decisions we can make as a community. I personally told the Supt & Principal a
few years ago to consider programs that the School once had, such as woodworking
or a few others I had mentioned. Of course that has not happened and I'm not
surprised.Now that there was a mad exodus of kids from Ptown to Nauset, I don't
think such courses are gonna be a good idea now.

However, until the School Committee stops acting like puppets to the Supt &
Principal, this School and it's current system will be nothing more than a day
care center for our children. If you want to see why I feel that way, just watch
the meetings on PTV. Change is needed.
9:07 am edt 

Re: Truth be Told

"Sorry, you just don't know your facts.  Beth Francis is teacher, not an
assistant principal.  Still waiting to hear the name of the second of two
principals".



She is! I took orders from her! I worked in the school library! I know!!!

Go back to planning your other dog park.... and leave the serious issues to the
grown ups!!!
9:04 am edt 

Re: Truth be Told

The only thing I can gleem from people posting about the schools is
that they have not been there since Beth Francis was the Asst Principal - AND
THAT WAS 6 YEARS AGO.

Yes, the budgets and people have been cleaned up and we have a wonderful school
that is a magnet school, just as people dreamed.
9:03 am edt 

Surplus Town Property

It is time for the town to seek other ways to dispose of surplus town
owned properties.  The fact that the town only received one bid for each of the
2 properties is proof that their approach was not successful.  The community
center on Bradford Street is worth 2 to 3 times what was offered and should not
be let go for such a small price.  These properties need to be properly exposed
to the market and putting an ad in the Banner to solicit bids is not the way to
do it.  The town should be getting offers that are close to market value not low
ball offers.
9:01 am edt 

John Fay BoS Candidate

John Fay is a great person but I think that anyone running for the BOS
should really begin by offering to serve on a town board or committee before for
a good while before attempting to run for the highest office in town.  If you
owned a business would you consider offering a job as a manager to someone who
had no experience running a business like yours before?
9:00 am edt 

John Fay BoS Candidate

"I dont understand people dis-qualifying John Fay due to his lack of
experience, lack of attendence to meetings ect."


Please re-read your statement. Ponder it the time it takes for the tide to
recede. When the tide returns, perhaps you will see that your own comment is the
reason why Fay won't fly on the BOS.
8:57 am edt 

Monday, March 10, 2014

Re: Truth be Told

Your may want this to be about lies--but it is about truth

we are spending too much and hiring and continuing to hire people who should not
be here. they should leave as the high school students have left.

what a mess! What a disaster! Please do not call this normal! it is not.

We need radical change--that means getting rid of the superintendent and one
principal. then, we will be fine.
9:42 pm edt 

Let's Face it

Send the children to Nauset and we solve the problem,. yes, we pay but  not
these absurd fees.

Time to close the school and send all of our children to a better school system.

This is our solution.
9:40 pm edt 

Stop & Shop

Is stop and shop becoming a market basket??
9:38 pm edt 

Re: John Fay BoS Candidate

I dont understand people dis-qualifying John Fay due to his lack of
experience, lack of attendence to meetings ect.  Everyone starts with no
experience...and everyone has a first time to attend a meeting...I dont believe
its ever too late to want to get involved and take a position in making his home
town the best place possible.  Some say its not important how long his family
have lived in the town or that he owns a business...on the contrary, doesnt this
give Mr Fay more of a reason to want to improve the town he resides in???  Lets
keep focused to the real issue and stop behaving like school children!!
9:37 pm edt 

Re: Truth be Told

"Kim Pike is the principal, Beth Francis is the asst.
principal.   Ok, why are these facts "tea party" lies.
I'm guessing that if one states the facts on this page you are automatically a
liar and a trouble maker."


Sorry, you just don't know your facts.  Beth Francis is teacher, not an
assistant principal.  Still waiting to hear the name of the second of two
principals.
9:33 pm edt 

Re: Truth be Told

"Betty White does the budget, Singer has a secretary (name unknown),
Judy Ward is the receptionist. Kim Pike is the principal, Beth Francis is the asst.
principal.   Ok, why are these facts "tea party" lies."



Again and again and again. I have just reread several days worth of posts and
can't find a single reference to "tea party lies" .  This seems to be the
problem with some.  They read what they want, not what is written.  There was a
reference to "tea party" "slogans" but nothing about lies.

I think what a poster meant is that a post said that some school people were
overpaid and underworked.  That was questioned and it was asked to be more
specific instead of the unfounded generalization.  So, what came back as a
response, the names and general duties of a few employees.  No proof or any kind
of detail about being under worked and NOTHING about being overpaid. This is
what many have a problem with.  Charges are made against some people being
underworked and over paid, but NOTHING is offered to back up the attack.  No
salaries.  No comps from other towns.  No requirements of the state or feds. 
NOTHING AT ALL.  So, are we supposed to take these charges seriously?  Why? 
What have you given us except your OPINION.

Then we get something about "lies" when that was never said.  A lie implies an
intent to deceive.  I wonder why someone would say that some employees are
underworked and overpaid when there is nothing to back up the attack.  Is that
an attempt to deceive?
9:32 pm edt 

Re: Truth be Told

You misinformed thing.  Dr singer is the half time superintendent,
Pike is the principal, dr singer does not have a secretary and Mars Francis is
the kindergarten teacher.

Please do all of us a favor and watch the pt tv televised meeting where thus
years budget wad presented to the BOS and Finance committee on 1/28/14.

The budget was unanimously voted in by both groups

Stop attacking the hard working parents who are here year round with their kids. 
Living and working here.
9:28 pm edt 

School

Please bring back Dr. Pavao!!!
2:56 pm edt 

Re: Truth be Told

School

Betty White does the budget, Singer has a secretary (name unknown), Judy Ward is
the receptionist. Kim Pike is the principal, Beth Francis is the asst.
principal.   Ok, why are these facts "tea party" lies.

I'm guessing that if one states the facts on this page you are automatically a
liar and a trouble maker.

Fine, let's keep paying for two schools when only one exists!

Call it what you will, but these are truths.  Where are the lies??
2:31 pm edt 

Re: Truth be Told

"something doesn't smell right
here. these costs are astronomical and should be investigated. "



We don't need an investigation.  All we need is for you to go to the School
Department and ask to see the budget.  The people of PT passed the budget at TM. 
No subterfuge. Out in the open for you to see and ask about and debate.  The
actual spending for each item on the budget is also public information.

Also, maintaining the building must happen whether there are students or not.

Sending kids to Nauset is not free and is part of the budget.

After you have looked at the budget and latest actuals. report back to us with
your findings.  Make sure that you interview everyone who has anything to do
with making the budget and spending the money so that you will have some facts
rather than opinions.
2:29 pm edt 

Re: Any Reports on the Yearrounders?

Jennifer Morrow and the rest of the people on that committee did a
sensational job of organizing the festival.  Congratulations and thank-you to
all of them.
2:27 pm edt 

Re: Truth be Told

"Personally of a mother whos children attended school in Provincetown,
and who regularly goes there and sees the goings on, I feel it very unnecessary
for there to be a Superintendant, two principals and several secretaries in both
schools.  .  ."



"You regularly go there and sees (sic) the goings on".  Can you tell me the
names of the two principals?  Please share.

I hope your child is smarter than you are.
2:26 pm edt 

Glad More are Running for Selectmen

Makes the race interesting. Welcome all. thanks for putting your hats in the
ring. thanks for caring enough to run.
2:24 pm edt 

To: Wayne Martin

This is Barbara i am Johns campaign manager   please
call me so we can discuss as adults and not on this why john  is running for
selectmen,
12:54 pm edt 

Why is the School Budget up by 6%? Now it is $3.6 Million?

this makes no sense. It was $4 million with a full functioning high school and
many high school teachers. Are you telling me that it only cost $400,000 to run
the high school, including all teachers' salaries? something doesn't smell right
here. these costs are astronomical and should be investigated. And if you add
the Million more to re-point the building, it is costing this town $4.6 million
to education 85 students? do the math. It will make you upset. It surely upsets
me. It is costing $54,117 per student. You can send each to the most elitist
private school for that! You can send a few to Yale, and some to Harvard --oh,
but they are only children. Off they go to Brown & Nichols.

It seems we need a math teacher instructing all of us how much this educational
"game" is costing each taxpayer here.

wake up taxpayers. cut their budget now.
12:47 pm edt 

BoS Elections

There is no pre-requisite to have served on any committees before
"running" for Selectman! Ideally it's useful but not absolute! So why do people
make it sound that "flaw" disqualifies an applicant? It does not! People with
common sense can serve well & sometimes better by not knowing the connectedness
or involvement of people on the committees (some serve for selfserving reasons).
Better to go  in with a "frsh eye"and no preconceived notions! One requisite is
to live here,care about  the Town, & how to vote in the best interest of all
citizens, which sometimes means compromise! Doctorate degrees not necessary!
Common sense is! To the elite out there - get over yourselves!! On the job
training is better! Hands on is better! Belive it or not the "village idiots"
have always been better at this job! Sophisticats need not apply! One who has
witnessed it all over the years!
10:12 am edt 

Re: Truth be Told

"Over-paid but surely not overworked"

Here we go again.  Opinions stated as if they are fact.  Do you have any idea at
all what she does with her day?  What are the state regs?  Please try to propose
a cogent argument that includes facts not uninformed opinions.  We all deserve a
reasonable debate based on facts not "tea party" type slogans that are
ill-informed, money based nonsense.

This, like so many other posts before it, will go unanswered by a presentation
of provable fact.  We may get some unsupported drivel that masquerades as fact.
10:09 am edt 

Re: Any Reports on the Yearrounders?

Year Rounders Festival was very successfull One of the best ever!
Lydia Hamnquist and all the preparatory staff have done an exceptional job!
Those who contribute in any way and all who attend make it all worthwhile to
continue it annually! It's community effort to enjoy this get together before a
new summer season starts!

Hope you all have a prosperous season and special rewards for sharing of
yourselves and your generosity for contributing to make this an annual success!

Thank you! Thank you!
10:07 am edt 

Is This Page a Joke Page???????

I don't understand why we have a page that is dedicated to talking bad about
people, isn't that what Facebook is for??    

Very disappointing
10:00 am edt 

John Fay BoS Candidate

This is. John Fay, again no one talked me into doing this and I wish
the person that keeps saying My friend asked me to do this would,come talk to
me,  i made this decision along with my wife to run, not any friend as you keep
saying.  I would,like to leave the Martin brothers out of this and run a fare
campaign and may the best candidates win.  And get your info correct I am not
running  for the 3 year I am running for 2 so before you decide to post things
about me get your facts straight.  I guess I need to do some more thinking about
this campaign as it clearly isn't about what's best for the town it's more of a
personal matter of who likes my friends I guess.
9:58 am edt 

Other Selectmen

The others in the race, other than Martin and Fay, are loving this. Part of
their campaign should be "vote for me or you'll get one of them!". Andrews is
quietly coasting to the elections as is Bobby Anthony and now Raf Richter. I
hope Raf gets in due to his dedication and second commitment to the election. It
shows he wants to do some good. I'm voting for Anthony too because I've seen
Cheryl in action and haven't been impressed.
9:55 am edt 

School:

Personally of a mother whos children attended school in Provincetown, and who
regularly goes there and sees the goings on, I feel it very unnecessary for
there to be a Superintendant, two principals and several secretaries in both
schools.  Why can't the Principal run both schools and there be 1 secretary in
each school.  That is more than sufficient.  The secretary to the Superintendant
just collects the fees for the month and pays bills.  Why can't the secretary
that's at the front desk, take care of all those functions.  I am not convinced
that cannot be done from my observations...  There are so few students and I
would venture to say that the amount brought in, certainly is not even close to
what is paid out in salaries.  Let's re visit this matter..  The town could save
a bundle...  I would further say that with the current staff, parents are moving
their children elsewhere..  What does that tell you...
9:50 am edt 

Re: Any Reports on the Yearrounders?

The Year Rounders was quite a success;  Well attended, lots of food for everyone
donated by many local businesses, and a number of great local acts.  The Celtic
Kids were adorable and talented!
9:47 am edt 

Sunday, March 9, 2014

Any Reports on the Yearrounders?


What was it like? Did you like it? How was the music?

Please tell.

10:58 pm edt 

Martin vs Fay

As a member of a board in this town and a former resident of Truro it is no
secret that Wayne Martin is civicly involved in both Ptown and Truro he has
attended and participated in numerous meetings in both towns and actively votes.
I am curious when Mr. Fay became a registered voter or if he has ever even cared
enough about this town that he says generations of his family have lived here to
vote at all. Has he ever attended a meeting of any type? He only seemed
interested after his so called friend talked him into it. This election is not a
joke I hope Mr. Fay is ready to dedicate the next three years of his life in
service to our town putting his own life and business on the back burner.  I
will disagree with anyone that says that you cant tell a lot about a person from
whom he associates with. Birds of a feather!
10:55 pm edt 

Re: Truth be Told

We Once Had a Person who was both superintendent and Principal

and it was not a problem and we then had a high school. Truly we do not need a
superintendent who is superintending herself --she should go. Keep one of the
two principals and that should handle the administration of these few students.
It is less than three classrooms of children. don pretend it is anything more.

Over-paid but surely not overworked. Save the money because what Beth singer is
doing is make work. and spending time trying to create another program when it
is over.  It's a three classroom project that needs only one principal.

these are tougher economic times. Cut where the cuts need to be made. do it now.
10:53 pm edt 

Re: Let's Stay on Track!

" would never ever judge someone on who they hang around with."

Many years ago a treasured mentor told me, "tell me who your friends are, and
i'll tell you who you are. "  Good people are friends with good people.  Good
people are not friends with not very good people.  Knowing someone and have some
contact is not to say they are friends.
10:47 pm edt 

Welcome to the Race, John

Would love to hear a bit about your campaign.  I am also going to walk down to
the Town Clerk and see how many times you voted and attended Town Meeting in the
past five years.  If you were a regular attendee, you might have my vote.  If
not, I don't really care how many generations of your family have lived here.
7:56 pm edt 

Let's Stay on Track!

I thought this was a election of the town not who likes or dislikes
Robert Martin. I am so sick of seeing these stupid comments about Fay and who his
friends are.  I have known both John and the Martin brothers for years I like
them both and would never ever judge someone on who they hang around with.  
Please people grow up. This is turning into a high school drama session.   I
personally and sick of it
7:54 pm edt 

From: John Fay BoS Candidate

This is John Fay responding to everyone who reads this page, I am
friends with Robert Martin but he is only my friend and has no say or any
influence on my decisions  or my beliefs, I am doing this because my family has
been in this town for for over 4 generations and I am a town person and want
what's best for the town. In regards to my campaign manager I don't know who you
think my campaign manager is but to clarify this it is my wife.
6:59 pm edt 

You Know Better

We may be taxpayers but too much happens behind closed doors and salaries are
too often too high are  done deals even when they get to town meeting. people
meet and agree; head nods and people smile, and salaries are seen are so just
right. It is joke especially when there is no high school and this
superintendent plays at being superintendent. She is not needed.

It is a sad case and a disgrace to pretend to be what we are not. Then others
feel so much better that we have such a school system, so intact, so full, but
we do not.

No more playing fantasy games. Let Beth Singer go, Let others go as well. Cut
the salaries and let it be finally finished. It is sadly gone. So should she.
6:48 pm edt 

Attention Please:

Lots of posts that ask for facts or clarification from previous posters, but
almost never a response.  Why?  Are they interested in a debate that will allow
a better understanding of town events and policies?  or, do they, as I suspect,
have an emotional, visceral, need to strike out against others?  Why do some
find it so distasteful to answer questions about numbers and people and things?

This silly stuff about school department salaries is a perfect example. 
Salaries and work status are matters of public record and are easily verified,
if you really care about facts. Why are some folks so dead set against getting
correct info from the knowledgeable source?  Can anyone explain?
6:44 pm edt 

Campaign Manager

It says it all if you have had the misfortune of running into him while out on
the town you know what I speak of. I would think Mr. Fay would have enough sense
to get involved with this character. If he was serious about running for BoS
this could only hurt his chances of getting elected.

John do yourself a favor get a new Campaign manager I like but WOW be
real!
6:43 pm edt 

Fay Who? Really!

You have to be kidding me if this guy is running for BoS. Here is a person that
never would have ever considered running if one of his friends (              )
wasn't there every day begging him to. The reason being is that he does not want
to see             Wayne Martin get in. Speaking as a town employee who has seen
for myself Wayne has been to several board and town meetings,, took place in
conversations ,spoke his peace and voted. He actually cares about the town and
other people besides himself. I don't believe Mr. Fay has every done anything
like that but I will be sure to ask him come candidates night should he decide
to run. Running for the BoS is not a joke you don't do it on a bet or because
some friend has a beef with a               GROW UP!!!


           JOHN YOUR A BETTER MAN THAN THAT
6:40 pm edt 

Re: Truth be Told

My understanding is that Truro had a combined principal and
superintendent, they had to get a waiver from the state to do it.  They found it
did not work well to have them combined and are spitting it back into two
positions.
6:35 pm edt 

72 Shank Painter

What is happening to the vacant shop at 72 Shank Painter? Looks like
another "green line" debacle.
6:34 pm edt 

Re: Truth be Told

To the person who keeps posting lies about our schools:  STOP IT. You
did the same thing on your blow hole and it's really tired!
6:30 pm edt 

John Fay BoS Candidate

John Fay has my vote.
6:29 pm edt 

Bob Martin and Dave Carrier for BoS

 These two would make a terrific improvement to the BoS Bob and his partner Dave
are both taking their papers out  after last week. They have my support and I
will be campaigning for them and what they stand for. Yes these are two men
everybody can get behind,come one come all!

                                                                                   

          DONT FORGET TO VOTE THIS COMING MAY
6:26 pm edt 

Saturday, March 8, 2014

Re: Truth be Told

'If $70,000 is for Half-time Salary for singer

than this superintendent's salary is $140,000. And $70,000 for half time is
still too much. time for singer to go and let the principal act as
superintendent too. We've done that before and we should be doing this again.'


No, her salary as a superintendent is $50,000 and she is paid $20,000 to be SPED
director.  If she was not qualified to be SPED director the school would have to
hire someone for that position.

And her salary as superintendent is $50k, she works part-time.  Do your homework
and use facts to support your arguments.
10:09 pm est 

Truth Be Told

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid Sweetheart

Hit the snooze button and go back to sleep.  Maybe all the big bad blow hards
will go away!
10:08 pm est 

Not Gullible

When I was younger I was taught to question when things don't seem right.

It's public record what these salaries are. Why are you so angry?  If you're a
taxpayer in this town...don't you want to know?  2 plus 2 doesn't add up to four
here. Just sayin'.
8:02 pm est 

Re: Community Center

Dormitory style housing under the town's watchful eye. You have to be
kidding.

Please.

Who would be the resident or house mother?
Without such supervision, surely, mayhem of some order, would occur.
8:00 pm est 

Community Center

The proposal on the table for the Community Center is a good idea. But I think
that is far from the best use of that property. Seasonal, dormitory style
housing can be encouraged and facilitated, but placed somewhere else.
Able-bodied seasonal workers can manage a longer commute from a less valuable
location. The Community Center sits in an ideal location for permanent
residents, especially the type that are of limited means and choose to get by
without a car. We should encourage people that don't want the expense of a car.
Walking into town or to the grocery store from the Community Center would be
reasonable for most people. Development of the Community Center as small, modest
apartments that would suit permanent local workers should be encouraged. And at
the price being offered for the dormitory style option including accommodations
for water/sewer, it is hard to imagine there aren't other alternatives.
4:26 pm est 

Re: Truth be Told

Blow hard's reply: "Stop stirring the pot! I don't think that Singer
makes less than her vice principal. Get real!

There are none so blind......."


I'm done!

The Blow Hard
4:24 pm est 

I Disagree

Re: Truth be Told

I don't see posters lying here or trying to deceive. the post their opinions,
state their positions, offer solutions to problems they raise. You  might
disagree with the issue but people are adding their perspectives to many town
issues. They are not lying.
4:22 pm est 

Re: Truth be Told

If $70,000 is for Half-time Salary for singer

than this superintendent's salary is $140,000. And $70,000 for half time is
still too much. time for singer to go and let the principal act as
superintendent too. We've done that before and we should be doing this again.

If--yes if--the high school still existed, that would be a totally different
story. But it does not and therefore we do not need two principals and a
superintendent for the little of the school that is left. Regionalize and
downsize for a reasonable school expenditure.
4:20 pm est 

Posted in Provincetown Lighthouse by Paul de Ruyter

A humble suggestion albeit a bit long, my apologies. I emailed this earlier to Tom Donegan and Erik Yingling but they deserve to hear the criticism from this community...

I think that if the BoS is inclined to sell the Community Center to Bill Meadows and include in the sale the new GPD flow requested by Mr. Meadows (3,100 GPD) without any protective deed restrictions with regard to "use", then the BoS should re-open the RFP and include the newly granted GPD flow in the property description making it a part of the solicitation for additional bids.

I favor Mr. Meadows' proposal and consider his offer to be entirely fair but not without proper assurance that the benefits to the town he describes will remain available.

Also, I don't think it fair to Mr. Meadows that he should somehow be viewed as someone who acquired the property at an unfair price. This proposal would relieve Mr. Meadows of this burden and perhaps put the issue of value to rest.

There is no doubt in my mind that whatever one might believe the property to be worth...now, if the additional GPD flow is included with the property, without any development restrictions...then the property is worth more then it was.

In fairness to Mr. Meadows I think the the second solicitation period should be short so that his interest as initial bidder and his plans are not unduly impaired. As further consideration for Bill I'd suggest that any competitive bid in a 2nd round should have to exceed Mr. Meadows' bid by at least $25,000 or perhaps as much as $50,000 before Bill's bid could be displaced.

Going through this additional step might address the concern expressed by many and publicly stated by the Chair of the Finance Committee...that the property is being sold at too great a discount to its value. I'm on record as disagreeing with the FinCom Chair's judgment in this view because I believe the tax assessed value assigned to the Community Center property is too high and that it does not reflect a real measure of fair market value. A determination of true fair market value should take into consideration the concept of "highest and best use"...something not part of the tax assessment value. In my opinion, the fact that the higher GPD flow was not part of the RFP property description might have deprived a potentially interested party the ability to perform an accurate evaluation of the property's fair market value. It's income potential is now altered...it is higher and that impacts value.

I offer this suggestion as one straightforward means of eliminating the confusion stemming from the apparent disparity between the bid offered by Mr. Meadows' and the town's tax assessed value assigned to the subject property. I'd make this suggestion myself at your next meeting but I won't be back in town in time.
4:18 pm est 

Re: Truth be Told
Fact: "You may or may not be insane, but you are dishonest.  According
to the 2012 Annual Report Dr. Singer was paid $70,000"

Blow hard's reply: "Stop stirring the pot! I don't think that Singer makes less
than her vice principal. Get real!"



This is typical. Even when presented the ACTUAL FIGURE that is Beth Singer's
salary, this individual refuses to believe it. It's better to stew in anger,
preposition, innuendo and spread blatant lies, because, really, what else are
you going to do when you purposely choose ignorance?
11:33 am est 

Re: Truth be Told

"You may or may not be insane, but you are dishonest.  According to the 2012
Annual Report Dr. Singer was paid $70,000"



Stop stirring the pot! I don't think that Singer makes less than her vice
principal. Get real!


And NO, I'm not insane.
9:15 am est 

Mr. Tom Coen for Selectman

What a coup for the town if Mr. Tom Coen runs for selectman. With his
credentials and his experience and his reasoned, measured and thoughtful
approach to every issue..the town would be in the best hands possible.
9:13 am est 

Town Meeting

Somehow the Best thinking Fails to dominate town Meetings

Years back, you could stand up and debate an article and even change how voters
thought about the issue. but that time is gone. Now the article is there and few
people are open to think about the issue. It's sad because that was the great
asset of town meetings. Not any more.

So more articles will be presented and more votes taken yet the town will not
necessarily be better for the collective effort.
12:00 am est 

Re: John Fay

I could support John, local business guy with family ties from way back. At
least he has a job unlike other candidates and knows what it's like to work hard
and pay taxes. Maybe Martin should go back to Truro and run for selectman there.
I hear they have an open uncontested seat and the filing deadline is soon.
11:57 pm est 

Cape Cod Commission

The Cape Cod Commission is a somewhat autonomous regional government
entity which unfortunately possesses "a lack of clear management, focus, and
prioritization."

How is such a dire assessment arrived at? Easily, all one needs to do is to
briefly and objectively scrutinize their operations and activities from
time to time and not simply take their reports at face value.

FACT: They are now engaging in disrespectful and unjustifiable personal
attacks upon locally elected officials:

In January of this year at a Sandwich Board of Selectmen meeting, a Cape
Cod Commission official clearly stated that the delegate to the County
legislature from that town made statements that were patently false, and
that he knew the statements were false. The delegate to the County Assembly is a
democratically elected representative of Sandwich voters. An appointed and
unelected bureaucrat with the Cape Cod Commission should show more respect to
those officials who have been directly chosen by the people of  Cape Cod. This
clearly indicates a lack of focus, and prioritization.

FACT: In February of this year, the same Cape Cod Commission bureaucrat with
justification, severely and disrespectfully criticized a Mashpee Selectman for
advocating for that Town's withdrawal from the Cape Cod Commission and attempted
to point to past decisions made by that same elected official which he made a
number of years ago when he was a Planning
Board member...a matter that had absolutely nothing to do with the current
issue. Additionally, whether or not the Town of Mashpee desires to discuss
and debate, via a Town Meeting Warrant Article, the merits and drawbacks of
CCC membership is an entirely LOCAL and MUNICIPAL ISSUE, and does not
warrant DIRECT INTERFERENCE by an APPOINTED county government Cape Cod
Commission official. What exactly does a local political issue have to do
with running a regional land use planning and regulatory agency? Other than
an arrogant disdain for local control, absolutely nothing! Once again, this
unquestionably exhibits an utter lack of focus, and prioritization.

FACT:  If one looks at the Cape Cod Commission website, specifically the
staff page containing its organizational chart and personnel hierarchy,
then one notices the following problem:  Within the staff listing, one high
ranking official is stated as being in overall charge of Economic
Development matters, however, within the content of the staff
organizational chart, a completely different official is claimed as being
in overall charge of Economic Development activities. Who exactly is in
charge here? Based upon its own documents and resources, apparently, even
the Cape Cod Commission itself is not quite sure. This particular fact
seems to illustrate yet another major defect within the organization, a
lack of clear management.

> FACT: Finally, if one briefly visits the history section of the CCC
website, then is quickly learned the CCC emphatically claims that it is the
direct successor to the Cape Cod Planning and Economic Development Council
(CCPEDC). One then need only go the CCC website area pertaining to the
current 208 Water Quality Plan Update process which is presently underway
to learn that the CCPEDC conducted a similar update back in
1978...and...that was the last time such a process took place. The problem
is that the 208 Water Quality Plan Update is mandated by federal law to be
conducted every ten years, NOT every 35 years. Since the CCC itself clearly
states in writing that it is the direct successor agency to the CCPEDC,
then it was of course the unquestionable legal responsibility of the Cape
Cod Commission to conduct a 208 Water Quality Plan Update (as required by
federal law) every ten years, which at a minimum means it should at least
have been carried out by the CCC in both 1998 and 2008 .

The Cape Cod Commission did NOT adhere to its direct responsibility as
required by federal regulations. The CCC dropped the ball, and failed us,
the residents of Cape Cod. Moreover, because it did not conduct the legally
required 208 Water Quality Plan Update during all of those years, then the
nitrogen loading problem and wastewater crisis on Cape Cod grew
significantly worse. This can lead to only one logical conclusion, the Cape
Cod Commission itself is at least partially responsible for creating the
dire ecological crisis which we now find ourselves.
All of the present excessive and superficial public relations initiatives
that the CCC is now undertaking (like sponsoring radio commercials) simply
cannot change this fact. It happened. Period. No ifs, ands, or buts! It is
patently true.

These are only some of the patently true facts as to why the Cape Cod
Commission unfortunately possesses "a lack of clear management, focus, and
prioritization."

With the aforementioned patently clear scenario at hand, then at least at
this stage of things, the CCC should NOT be allowed the 2.5% tax increase
for Fiscal Year 2015 that it has requested. It just does not deserve any
more of the public's money (other than to be level funded), until it
straightens out its act.

Ron Beaty
11:55 pm est 

Truth be Told

"Salary:
Beth Singer   $105,700
Kim Pike      $ 95,500
Beth Francis  $ 83,200
Yearly salaries for one school.  Wouldn't you say this is excessive for a town
that can't afford it.

Are we insane...or what??"



You may or may not be insane, but you are dishonest.  According to the 2012
Annual Report Dr. Singer was paid $70,000
11:49 pm est 

Why Don't They Run

No one wants to run in this town because of gossip and nonsense.   If
everyone in this town could just stop talking about everyone else and trying to
ruin people's business and life's then this town would actually do well.
11:47 pm est 

Friday, March 7, 2014

Just Cut Out the Superintendent Beth Singer

Combine this position--which is not now necessary--with one principal who is
already being too much and then let her go.

This is insane. Overpayments for non-productive jobs.

Let reason reign instead of pure folly.
9:40 pm est 

Cape Cod Commission

Sorry Ron Beatty, I heard withdrawing from the Cape Cod Commission did
not get enough signatures to be heard at town meeting.
9:38 pm est 

New Faces

RE: Once again Robert Martin nominating John Fay for selectman....The
both of them have no history of town government.

You can't have it both ways.  It seems the hue and cry from this board is always
about new faces getting involved in order to upset the status quo.  Here you
have two faces new to town government and yet you deride them for that vary same
quality for which you so vociferously yearn.  I guess what you really want is to
choose from "new" faces which are familiar to you.

Disclaimer: I am a second home owner and have no voting rights, knowledge of or
vested interest in either of the above potential candidates.  I merely seek to
point out irony and hypocrisy wherever it exists.
10:40 am est 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

URGENT PLEA! Petition Deadline Is This Morning!

11:00 AM this morning is the final deadline for turning in the voter signatures
for the town meeting warrant article petition pertaining to the Cape Cod
Commission Withdrawal issue. At this point at least five more voter signatures
need to be turned in directly to the Town Clerk's Office for certification or
else the matter will not be able to be brought before the voters at the Annual
Town Meeting or at a future voter referendum.

If at all possible, anyone who is able to, is urgently and respectfully
requested to PLEASE immediately print out the petition located at the link
provided belown, sign it, provide your voting address (ask your spouse or
co-worker to sign it too), and then please drop it off at the Town Clerk's
Office by 11:00 AM today. Even if you are not sure about how you feel on this
issue, this petition will simply allow the matter to be publicly discussed and
debated. Provincetown voters at least deserve the opportunity to so.

This is the final appeal that can be made regarding this truly worthy democratic
issue...

Thanks.
http://barnstablecounty.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/petition-for-article-for-town-of-provincetown.pdf
10:38 am est 

Re: John Fay

I support John Fay because he is a honest hard working business owner,
I don't care who he is friends with I support him because he will be good for
the town . I have known him for years and has always been there to help.  Come
on people grow up this isn't a high school election vote for the best candidate
don't get involved in this small town gossip nonsense.
10:36 am est 

BoS Candidates

What does it matter who endorses who as long as the best candidate is
running?
10:35 am est 

Dr. Beth Singer

"If you want to know what her job is, ask the right people, the School
Dept. Specifically the School committee."



You're right! This isn't the forum for this type of question. Our voice is heard
at town meeting. I just think the Town Manager, The Police Chief and The
Superintendent command way too much. I'll shut up now.

Thank you.
10:32 am est 

Re: Parking Fees

"I get the feeling that the business owners are complaining because
they like to fleece the visitors directly, instead of having the town get a fair
share of revenue..."


So true. So many restaurants play Russian roulette with the tourists, raising
prices every season, upping the ante, because, after all, what can they do about
once they're here and parked?

Easy. They can just stop coming. This town would start to decay if a McDonald's
opened up on Route 6. But think about it...struggling residents could actually
afford to eat out once a month!
10:27 am est 

Re: John Fay

Once again Robert Martin nominating John Fay for selectman. Take it from the
source. The both of them have no history of town government.
11:04 pm est 

Year Round Community

Let's save our year round community and it starts with our kids and
their families
11:02 pm est 

Thursday, March 6, 2014

Raphael Richter - BoS Candidate

Well everyone, prepare to start seeing these around town again very soon... I will be formally kicking off the campaign in the next couple weeks, which will include a meet the candidate event and kickoff party I hope many Voice members will be able to attend.
In the meantime, I look forward to answering your questions, please bring them forth and I will respond as promptly as possible.
Thank you for the opportunity to serve our one of a kind Town.
10:59 pm est 

To: Board of Selectmen

This would be a very good time to hire a mamagement consulting firm to come
in and analyze and make recommendations for all town departments and employees.
Back in the day it was called Business Process Re-engineering. This study would
document all "as is" practices and procedures for all departments and employees
and make recommendations to improve efficienies, streamline work flow, and
identify any redundant or un-needed work, as well as save a great deal of money
for the town and tax payers.

The salary for the town manager position seems very high for this small a town
and I agree, let's have a principal for the one remaining school in town. A
Superintendant of Schools is absurd for a town with one school and an ever
shrinking year round population.
10:54 pm est 

Re: 63 Shankpainter Construction

    I installed the new door and window on this property. I most certainly do
have a building permit on file at the Department of Community Development.


    The new store owner is working with Gloria McPherson, the Town planner, to
finalize the plot plan. This plan will have a proper parking area, green space,
new trees, and a patio.

    I don't believe that the owners have made a public announcement yet, so I
don't think I should share anymore information yet.

Peter Page
East Harbor Construction
10:51 pm est 

Parking Fees at Air Port

This business about parking fees at the airport is rather strange.  A
few folks start beating the drum without studying the matter at all. And some of
these people are involved with the town's finances.  They seem to have a
distinct lack of understanding of economic evaluation.  It MIGHT be a good idea
to charge parking fees, but then again it might NOT be a good idea.  There is
much more to a valid financial study than simply saying that we'll take in more
money.  How much?  At what cost?  What about first talking with all the people
that would be affected?  How many cars are left there for months, or even weeks? 
How does it affect things if there are plenty of spaces?  How elastic is the
price/value consideration for parking?  What would be the overall effect on the
finances of the town?  How about a rational discussion instead of raw 
pronouncements?
10:46 pm est 

Dr. Beth Singer

"I don't understand that statement. When facts are true. What
justifies a salary of $145 PLUS yearly for a part time position?
That's more than a politician earns.  This is a small town school official.
Is she really all that? What does this person do EXACTLY?

Isn't anyone else curious why she commands such a high salary?"



Very interesting post.  First of all, all "facts" are "true".  that is part of
the definition.

A lot of jobs pay more than politicians.  Is that bad?  The Police chief earns
more than the selectmen.  heads of state colleges earn more than governors.  So
what?

If you want to know what her job is, ask the right people, the School Dept. 
Specifically the School committee.

Is it a really high salary?  What is you basis for the statement.  People get
paid in the amount that others are willing to pay them.  Works with farmers and
mechanics.

Go to town meeting and vote against the school budget. Your complaints will do
nothing here.  The money is approved at town meeting.
10:41 pm est 

Re: The Real Spring Flushing....

"and I am pretty sure one of the candidates
running doesn't even have a job."


I hope that there is no law that says one must have a job before being elected
to a public office.  Some might consider the lack of a job to be a plus, in that
the person could possibly devote more time to the public elected job.
10:34 pm est 

The Error of Not Obtaining Bids

So, an error has been made by not obtaining bids for school repairs. Could we
have gotten a contractor at a cheaper price? Why was it not put it to a vote?
Were we as a town even consulted?

As a penalty, this error should be taken out of "someone's" salary. Maybe a
decrease annually?

Do we as taxpayers absorb this out of our wallets? If I made this huge of an
error in my job, it would be my responsibility to make it right.

Anyone agree??
10:32 pm est 

Parking

All this whining about raising parking prices. I've been around here for over 25
years and I can tell you I've never heard ANY of my guests or people in general
complain about parking prices. What I HAVE heard are LOTS of complaints about
$20 burritos, $15 burgers, and the lack of alcohol in the high-priced drinks at
the "largest entertainment complex" in town over and over and over again. I get
the feeling that the business owners are complaining because they like to fleece
the visitors directly, instead of having the town get a fair share of revenue
for what it provides. You know, you can only toss the "it's so hard for business
here" card so many times before we all start to say "then maybe you should give
up your businesses and let other people run them because you can't figure it out
your self". If raising parking for the benefit of the town by $3 is so harsh,
then why don't you lower the price of your menu and/or drink items? *crickets*
10:20 pm est 

Re: Pray for Peace and Plant a Tree for Summer Shade!

THANK YOU TO THE HANDSOME WEBMASTER!

"As we near that tumultuous time of year, let's give a big shout out to our
Webmaster for hosting this fabulous forum and letting us all blow off a little
steam. After all, isn't that what P'town is famous for? Besides the monument,
what else is there? Oh, of course. I forgot: the art.

My New Year's resolution was to take better care of myself. I've lost a few
pounds and am trying to be kind(er), but this winter has been a struggle. So
much steam and a whole lot of blowing. No wonder the snow melts so fast!

As I search online for a rabbit stew caveman diet recipe, I've made a huge
decision. Fasten your seat belts, folks, because I've decided to give up
something new this year for lent: complaining. Which means the posts on Shout
Out will diminish by more than fifty percent. Perhaps Clarence can finally take
a long, well-deserved break.

Not to worry my friends. You've still got the Banner and FinCom meetings will be
televised, so talk amongst yourselves.

Pray for peace and plant a tree for summer shade!"


I SECOND THAT!!! THANKS CLARENCE! I WONDER HOW MANY WONDERFUL CHANGES TOOK PLACE
IN THIS TOWN EITHER DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY DUE TO THIS BLOG.I BELIEVE THIS BLOG
WAS A BIG PART OF THESE WONDERFUL CHANGES AND WE HAVE CLARENCE WALKER TO THANK!!


11:12 am est 

Re: What's Going On?

"I think that we have had enough of this stuff.  Please tell us which
secretaries have secretaries. Too many posters here are very fast and easy with
the truth."


You must be rich. I for one don't like seeing my tax dollars thrown away
foolishly."


This is a perfect example of what is wrong with this blog.  There have been
several posts about secretaries having secretaries, so a poster asks for
specifics.  Rather than anyone posting specifics, someone posts a total
non-answer.  Lots of heat but no light.

Is there someone who can give an intelligent response to the question about
secretaries having secretaries?  Since they must be public employees it should
be public information.  It is not slander or libel to simply state the names of
the public employees and their jobs.
10:57 am est 

Pray for Peace and Plant a Tree for Summer Shade!

THANK YOU TO THE HANDSOME WEBMASTER!

As we near that tumultuous time of year, let's give a big shout out to our
Webmaster for hosting this fabulous forum and letting us all blow off a little
steam. After all, isn't that what P'town is famous for? Besides the monument,
what else is there? Oh, of course. I forgot: the art.

My New Year's resolution was to take better care of myself. I've lost a few
pounds and am trying to be kind(er), but this winter has been a struggle. So
much steam and a whole lot of blowing. No wonder the snow melts so fast!

As I search online for a rabbit stew caveman diet recipe, I've made a huge
decision. Fasten your seat belts, folks, because I've decided to give up
something new this year for lent: complaining. Which means the posts on Shout
Out will diminish by more than fifty percent. Perhaps Clarence can finally take
a long, well-deserved break.

Not to worry my friends. You've still got the Banner and FinCom meetings will be
televised, so talk amongst yourselves.

Pray for peace and plant a tree for summer shade!

Darla
10:53 am est 

Building Permits

About these building permits harbor hotel is closed for renovations no
building permits they should loose there liquor license for the time they have
been closed in the season 2014 chateau no permits I drove by meads brothers
plumbing on shainkpainter road Robert meads house front of house ripped apart no
permits is that income for the town the permit money and should everyone go by
the law
10:51 am est 

Re: John Fay Vote?

To the person that thinks I should run ( John Fay ) thanks so much
very nice to hear . ill have to consider that !
10:50 am est 

Insanity a State of Mind???

I don't understand that statement. When facts are true. What justifies a salary
of $145 PLUS yearly for a part time position?

That's more than a politician earns.  This is a small town school official.

Is she really all that?

What does this person do EXACTLY?

Isn't anyone else curious why she commands such a high salary?
10:48 am est 

Re: Worker Affordable Housing

I DONT BELEIVE WE SHOULD BE GIVING ARE BUILDINGS AWAY AT DISCOUNT WE
COMPLAIN WE NEED MORE REVENUE SO LETS CHARGE MORE FOR PARKING TOURIST WONT WANT
TO COME DOWN AS OFTEN RESIDENTS PAY ENOUGH FOR PARKING AND TAXES AND NOW PEOPLE
WANT DISCOUNT ON TOWN BUILDINGS THATS SILLY YOU WANT A PROPERTY HAVE TO PAY WE
NEED THE REVENUE SHOULDNT BE LET GO UNDER VALUED PRICE BILL IS GREAT GUY BUT
TOWN SHOULDNT LOSE MONEY
10:46 am est 

Worker Affordable Housing

Why is there any question about the viability/ validity of the
proposal of Bill Meadows to convert tne former community center into storage and
dormitory housing. There is a proven shortage of worker (affordable) housing,
and the property is currenty not being used, and is off the tax roles. What is
the town waiting for? The price of real estate to rise ?

If the guy has the money, and can make good on his proposal then sell him the
property!
10:43 am est 

Banner 03/06 - Politicians Want Everything For Nothing

Cape Air wants passengers to park for free

By Ann Wood BANNER STAFF

PROVINCETOWN — A proposal to charge for parking at the Provincetown Municipal Airport didn’t fly with Cape Air spokesperson Michelle Haynes.

“It has come up before; it is something we’re very concerned about,” she told the finance committee last week. “Our request to you … is that you look at this very closely and what this may do to us as a business.”

The problem, Haynes said, is that the small airline operates at a deficit seven months a year and faces stiff competition from fast ferries and cars. Free parking is a perk of landing in Provincetown, she said, adding that 80 percent of the vehicles parked there sport resident parking permits on their windshields.

Mike Valenti, chair of the airport commission, said Monday that the airline relies on — in fact it needs — 10,000 paid passengers to fly out of Provincetown to receive about $1 million in federal grants a year. The $95,000 that the town has budgeted for the airport doesn’t cover big projects required to keep it up and running, he added. Thus, a dip in passenger numbers could kill its funding and possibly the airline’s operation here.

difference.”

And yet FinCom members were adamant that a $5 or $10 parking charge wouldn’t hurt people who can afford to fly.

“You’re getting into a chunk of money that can help with a lot of priorities,” Canizales said, and seemed surprised to find that Cape Air rents parking spaces to Enterprise Rent-A-Car. “So we give you parking for free and you rent it out?”

Haynes said that she’d return with relevant financial and passenger numbers. Meanwhile Clarence Walker, another Fin-Com member, would like those who park at the airport for two or three months for free while they vacation in the winter to pay up. Haynes agreed that something should be done about that.
10:40 am est 

Re: John Fay Vote?

I agree. I vote for John Fay,,,,,,great guy would do a great job.  He
is a hard working honest businessman, and I am pretty sure one of the candidates
running doesn't even have a job.   VOTE FOR JOHN FAY
10:34 am est 

Banner 03/06 - Tale of Two Towns
 
Real estate trends in Truro, P’town show variations in micro-markets

By Erik Borg

BANNER CORRESPONDENT

The Outer Cape real estate market is another year removed from its 2009 bottom after posting a fourth consecutive year of improved figures in several key areas in 2013.

In Provincetown, total sales in 2013 were up 4 percent from the previous year with a median single-family home price of $885,000 and a median condominium price of $389,000.

The actual number of transactions dipped slightly to 202 compared to 229 in 2012, but the modest downturn was countered by an increase in activity at the high end of the market. Of the 49 single-family homes sold in Provincetown last year, 21 fetched a price of more than $1 million, compared to 16 in 2012 and eight in 2011.

The figures, reported by the Multiple Listing Service, bear proof that 2013 was a strong year nearly across the board in Provincetown, said Joe DeMartino, a co-owner and broker for Coldwell Banker Pat Shultz Real Estate.

Overall, the Provincetown market appears to have outpaced positive trends nationally, with single-family and condominium values inching back to their peak prices in 2005. The condominium market was particularly robust in 2013, with sales accounting for more than 60 percent of all Provincetown real estate transactions at a median price that even eclipsed peak 2005 figures.

“All of this suggests that the market in Provincetown appears to have stabilized and is, in fact, recovering, if not already recovered,” DeMartino said.

Looking ahead, DeMartino predicted that the market in 2014 would perform similarly to 2013 with prices remaining flat.

“It will be a good year, but it won’t be gangbusters,” he said.

Interest rates, currently at or near an all-time low, are poised to begin a gradual increase and, unlike in other markets, Provincetown has not experienced an extreme shortage in inventory that can lead to surging prices and short durations on the market.

The average days on market dropped for both single-family homes and condominiums in 2013, but remained “fairly high” compared to other markets, De-Martino said. Condominiums in Provincetown were on the market for an average of 163 days, compared to 196 days in 2012 and single-family homes averaged 204 days on the market compared to 225 days in 2012.

“Inventory has been falling; it’s a tighter market, but it’s not like it was in 2005,” he said. “I would characterize this market not as a buyer’s market and not a seller’s market.”

In Truro

The 2013 market performance tells a slightly different story in Truro.

Truro saw total sales volumes for single-family homes fall by 24 percent over the previous year with a median price of $594,648 in 2013. The number of singlefamily sales also decreased from 54 in 2012 to 48 in 2013.

The condominium market, while perennially handcuffed due to the town’s three-season occupation bylaw, also saw a similar drop-off. Overall sales volumes for condominiums decreased by 22 percent in 2013 with a median price of $262,113. The number of transactions dipped from 29 in 2012 to 20 in 2013.

Unlike in Provincetown, the high end of the Truro market was hit the hardest in what has become a continuing trend for the Cape’s smallest community.

Only two homes valued at more than $1 million sold in Truro last year, though the highend properties accounted for roughly 30 percent of singlefamily homes on the market, said Nick Brown, owner of Thomas Brown Real Estate in Truro.

In some cases, high-end properties on the waterfront are seeing 600 or more days on the market, he said. “The stigma of erosion was so strong that those properties sat and sat and sat. We saw values in some cases drop 25 to 50 percent.”

Meanwhile, the bottom of the market has fared much better. Overall, single-family homes in Truro averaged 230 days on the market in 2013, up only 15 days from 2012. Accounting for the skewing effect of the highend market, the figures bear out the fact that the market for properties under $750,000 has shown healthy trends, Brown said.

“All of a sudden we are seeing the firming-up of prices of second and third row homes. Why? No erosion issues,” he said Looking ahead, Brown predicted that 2014 would be a “transition year” with a modest increase in home sales.

“Everything else except waterfront homes had corrected and last year was the correction of the waterfront,” he said. “I think prices are going to settle about where they are right now and activity on some of the more desirable homes will finally start to pick up.”

Of the 49 single-family homes sold in Provincetown last year, 21 fetched a price of more than $1 million.
10:31 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

UNEXPECTED COSTS EVEN WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING

Province landing had to raise the rent due to the flood insurance requirement.
I'm a homeowner and our insurance company said that they are dropping us.
(another insurance co that this insurance provider is going to stop insuring all
property that they cover that is on the cape).

Now we are going to get another company. I called them this morning and they
gave me a quote this afternoon--believe it or not!

If this happens to Province Landing--then their costs will go up as well.

What happens if the cost of fuel should sky rocket? Won't rents go up? There are
a myriad of things that might affect costs.

I think that Mr. Bill Marshall should be allowed to transform the Community
center into work force housing because it won't cost the taxpayers a
penny--instead we make half a million dollars and Provincetown will be
collecting taxes on the Property each year. Now is just a run down dilapidated
building.
12:00 am est 

Re: What's Going On?

"I think that we have had enough of this stuff.  Please tell us which
secretaries have secretaries. Too many posters here are very fast and
easy with the truth."


You must be rich. I for one don't like seeing my tax dollars thrown away
foolishly.

I know your attitude....."don't say anything and let status quo reign". I've been
here ten years and have watched the fools in charge fleece the town.
11:47 pm est 

Re: What's Going On?

Stop belaboring the sale of the High School issue! Realtors who did
irreparable damage to this town want to put the ax in one final time by selling
the High School! The Tow gave away the Middle School for other community
purposes and now you want to misplace small children to be bussed to other
Towns!? Never!! The High School needs to be used for them to stay here where
they belong,in their Town,in their own community! There'll be a public
uprising,as there should be if it's recommended & I'll be the one to start it!!
Another issue is the sale of town owned buildings! They must be sold ,if
anything,for more,not less,of their fairmarket value> The old Cape End Manor was
sold with a committment to reduce the tax rates! That didn't happen! Maybe it
will if all those earmarked for sale town owned buildings,are sold at higher
rate - not give-a-way rates!!
11:44 pm est 

The Question of the Cape Cod Commission...

Should the voters be allowed to decide if they think that their town should
consider withdrawing from the Cape Cod Commission?

YES!
11:42 pm est 

What's Going On?

Insanity is a state of mind, but the figures you quoted were from the annual
town report, correct? That means,        one, that the budget which included
these salaries was approved at annual town meeting.

Relax... town meeting is only a month away, which gives you time to          as
needed and make an appearance on the voting floor.

Then you can call your          .
11:40 pm est 

The Real Spring Flushing....

...will occur at the may elections. then we will flush the town clean and bring in
new faces with new ideas.

Here's [to] the real spring Flushing!
11:38 pm est 

Re: What's Going On?

Two Principals, One Superintendent and so few students

and no high school. these salaries are foolish for the educational system we
have and---don't have. One of these positions would be enough. One principal and
let the others go.

How ridiculous can we be?
11:36 pm est 

Building Permits Public Posting - Gone Missing

I don't Think the Building Permits are Listed in the Banner anymore

they used to be and we could see the weekly lists of all building permits. But I
don't think they have posted in about two years or so. If this is a legal
requirement, just like posting the cases for key regulatory boards, as to
Zoning, Historic district, and then also Planning, then there has been a legal
lapse. It is not being done.

Maybe this is wrong and maybe it legally is required.

what has happened to the postings of building permits?
11:34 pm est 

John Fay Vote?

I think we should vote for a person who has lived here there whole
life, owns a business, has the towns best interest in mind.  I personally am
writing in John Fay's name from Fay's auto he fixes my car he is honest, sincere
and caring what the town needs. If you are reading this for the first time john
yes I think you should be selectmen.
11:31 pm est 

Re: What's Going On?

"Yearly salaries for one school.  Wouldn't you say this is excessive
for a town that can't afford it."



You know, maybe i would, but then maybe I wouldn't.   Could you share with us
what the school committee says is the job description of each and how they are
performing according to local, state and federal requirements.  What about other
towns? What are the costs of regionalizing with Truro and Wellfleet?  What will
be the increased travel time for the kids?  Outside of complaining about the way
we now do it, can you suggest another way and what are the pros and cons?  This
debate is too much like the GOP beating on Obamacare without having any
alternative. And, why do you use the term "we can't afford it"? Exactly what can
we afford and what are the criteria that you use to establish affordability?  I
suspect that it is a wholly made up measuring stick that includes only what YOU
consider important.
11:29 pm est 

Re: What's Going On?

Salary:

Beth Singer   $105,700


Beth Singer is only part time- she works three days a week so her annual full
time salary is: $ 147,980.

Staggering for the worst school system in the State.
11:26 pm est 

Schools

I for one am appalled at the salaries that are paid at this school for a few
students. This is coming out of our pockets. Sharon Lynn is gone...let's put to
rest her crazy ideas. We should get back to business.  Closing the school
completely and busing the students elsewhere would be beneficial to the town. We
simply can't afford to be trailblazers for a few that want to keep their jobs.
In fact, most of the staff don't live here or pay taxes here. Of course, their
expensive ideas don't matter to them....but it should matter to us.

The school has become an expensive proposition.
11:25 pm est 

Re: A Drain on the Town

Are you trying to drive anyone under 60 from living in Provincetown? 
Maybe we should just post a sign coming into town. No one welcome under 60.  Why
don't you propose that at the next town meeting. Then we can get rid of the
kids, school, and parents.
11:21 pm est 

Tuesday, March 4, 2014

What's Going On?

Salary:


Beth Singer   $105,700

Kim Pike      $ 95,500

Beth Francis  $ 83,200


Yearly salaries for one school.  Wouldn't you say this is excessive for a town
that can't afford it.

Are we insane...or what??
5:40 pm est 

The Year Round Community

It is sad to see someone attacking the year round community here.  
The parents who are here with their children year round who work in and own the
businesses.  The year round community is down to about 800 in the winter and yes
most of them are the parents with kids who need to be here in the winter working
and sending their kids to school.   Does this person want town empty in the
winter.  They attack and attack what is left of the year round community ?  The
kids and families need to be supported as this the core of the town, along with
elderly people, who really now represent what we call a community.  Yes the
schools are succeeding, with the International Baccalaureate program and the
school is growing - rejoice in that.
5:39 pm est 

"Secretaries Needing Secretaries...Indeed."

I think that we have had enough of this stuff.  Please tell us which secretaries
have secretaries.  Too many posters here are very fast and easy with the truth.
5:36 pm est 

A Drain on the Town

Believe me, I am ALL for educating our children! However, why do we need more
than one secretary for the school. When there were two schools we needed a full
administrative staff. We are now down to one school and a few kids. Why a
receptionist, two secretaries, a superintendent, a principal and a vice
principal? Beth Francis was fully capable to handle both duties.

This excessive staff to justify what?? That Beth Singer is self indulgent? Let's
get real. We don't need it.

We've exchanged a charter school for a fake Baccalaureate Program for pre-school
and elementary children. If I suggested this, I'd be laughed out of a school
board meeting.

It all needs to be re-evaluated.
5:35 pm est 

Re: Schools, Salaries & Expenses

"since this was Sharon's decision"


I don't think so.  If you check you'll learn that the school Super is hered by
the school committee.  Let us know please.
5:31 pm est 

New Blood Needed

I find it so sad that everyone keeps saying things like if you don't
live here year round then you have no right to an option. actually its the
opposite maybe the people who have left this town for awhile and no what's its
like to not live in such a small town town where everyone is so closed minded
and let them run the town.  No politics people can't say oh they got the job
because there friends with so and so... new people to run this town is what we
need
3:37 pm est