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  Mark Silva: A Rich Goodby

The church was packed. There was even a long line to enter St. Peter's. There were people sitting along the side pews. All the pews were filled.

We were there to attest to your legacy, to what you gave to this town and to all of us. You brought the energy for the Portuguese Festival and revived it. You brought the energy for the Regatta and revived this wonderful celebration. You gave of yourself, of your time and of your vision.

The town was there to bid you farewell and to thank you for everything that you have done for us. And you did it with humor, joy and a sense of much celebration. You knew how to throw a party and taught the town to do it too!

You were unique and you will be missed. But you would not leave without our thanks and without a party at the Red Inn. We were there with tears and we were there with much laughter and gratefulness for you.

Adieu, Mark! May the angels carry you on holy wings into eternal peace and celebration!

 

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Friday, May 31, 2013

Re: Finance Committee

"B. You don't know many people."


Now that's hilarious.
9:08 pm edt 

Renaming of he Skatepark

There has been conversation initiated by Selectman Yingling to rename
the Skatepark.  I hope everyone proceeds very very slowly with this idea. 
Naming town owned property after an individual is a very big deal and should not
be rushed.

If someone wants to honor a person they have many opportunities through benches,
a memorial tree, etc to do so.  Again, naming a town owned property is a huge
deal and should not be rushed.

I googled the person's name to determine who it was.  I found it was a 19 yr old
man who went to school in western mass.  He spent summers in Provincetown.  It
is my opinion that a memorial bench would be a more appropriate honor or perhaps
naming a ramp in the Skatepark.
9:06 pm edt 

Please, No More!

Please, no more POLICE STATE posts! This blog is becoming a joke.
Can't we move on already??
8:13 pm edt 

Re: Finance Committee

Re: "Finance Committee has some of the brightest people I know.  .  ."


I would contend that either:

A. You don't watch the Finance Committee meetings on TV

or

B. You don't know many people.
5:10 pm edt 

It may Be Summer But That Means Police Along the Pier

This is not where I want the police. I want Assistant Harbormasters and
individuals with marine experience. It's not enough to know how to handle a gun;
We need those who can handle marine emergencies and understand piers. This is
not what we have.

Summer is good but having too many police and too many cruisers is not a good
thing.
5:06 pm edt 

Thursday, May 30, 2013

Provincetown PD

Personally I liked them better as a Police Department than I do as a
Police Force.
10:02 pm edt 

It's Summer!

Blah, blah, police state, blah, blah. Time to move on guys. It is
summer. Let's enjoy it.
10:00 pm edt 

Re: Bottom Line

"One real world difference this blog has made; we now have one of the most
incompetent, dysfunctional finance committees ever."



This is one of the funniest blogs ever.  "Real world difference"?  Surely you
must be joshing.  If you want to insult, make a sandwich board then get approval
from one of the comptetent, functional boards that are obviously dragged down by
the lowly FC members and get to work. How funny.  How pathetic.
9:55 pm edt 

Re: Chief Jaran

My other half does work in the police dept and has said nothing, but
good things about his boss.  I understand that if you've been in the department
and you've always used sick time to go fishing and he stopped that practice you
might be upset, but that's your issue.
9:54 pm edt 

Re; "Incompetent, Dysfunctional Finance Committees......"

Come on you bloggers  that are  nasty re Fin Com performance! That to
me means the Fin Com is doing something very right to incite your anger to
stroke level!

Who would want to volunteer hours on end and take the abuse you
heap on them?

I'm not a Fin Com member and never will be! I'm just plain "Joe"
citizen, or maybe "Jane" citizen because of thankless,rude people like you !!
6:23 pm edt 

Wearing Weird Glasses Does Not an Accurate Perspective Make

Finance Committee has some of the brightest people I know. they are assertive
and take risks. They are fighting so we don't have to pay more and more taxes as
we do year after year. They are there as our advocates---and we have advocates
for us, instead of advocates for the BOS and the town manager.

I find this committee a breath of fresh air. Bright, committed and dedicated.
I'm pleased with such a great selection.
6:21 pm edt 

Re: Police Chief Nice Guy

You bloggers who have been posting that the Police Chief is a nice guy, you got
to be kidding me. I know why you are saying that !!! You don't work for him,
that's it. Try it or have a relative work for him and then post back here. It's
also obvious that you also have no clue what he has done to those who did work
for him. Do me a favor and punch a couple of holes in that bag you have covering
your eyes. He is nasty, vicious and vindictive.
6:20 pm edt 

Re: Bottom Line

One real world difference this blog has made; we now have one of the most
incompetent, dysfunctional finance committees ever. Full of would be tin horn
dictators and washed out computer industry guys and others who have bankrupted
their companies and now want to fill their time screwing up our finances.
Somehow these losers have struck an alliance with the poor washed up locals who
also       their past businesses up and are using the FC to grind their sharp ax
in revenge against town officials they don't like and position themselves for
selectmen races in the future. That is one very unfortunate impact of this
stupid blog.
2:50 pm edt 

Re: Chief Jaran

Many of us look at the professionalization of our town staff,
including the police department and police chief, as one of Sharon's finest
achievements.

Nope, it's not like it use to be when John Doe down the street got a job because
he was friends with so and so, despite the fact he didn't know how to do the
job.  The town is better for the professional staff.
2:44 pm edt 

Re: Chief Jaran

Sorry but a good Father Does not a Great Chief Make

People can love their families and be ogers to the rest of the world. How
someone treats his daughter does not necessarily tell us how he will treat us.

Life is not that simple. People are complex and one side often hides another.
the equation does not hold!
2:42 pm edt 

Re: Chief Jaran

I agree with the poster who says that Chief Jaran is a good man.  He's
got a great GF and a large family including a kid who is gay I think.

Unfortunately, I don't believe he is the right person for the job.  He seems to
lack some maturity and clearly takes everything about the job way too
personally.  The good news is that he has built a very professional police force
and I believe with the right guidance they will be stellar.
2:39 pm edt 

Rick Murray v FinCom

Checkout Rick Murray giving a condescending dress down to the FinCom
(watch on PTV) last meeting.  This is the guy who is Vice Chair of the infamous
Building Committee that can't figure out anything.  I know FinCom is on the
right track when it has his stamp of disapproval. He was so rude, not even
waiting for a reply or a discussion. He already knows all the answers. Those of
us who have been around know his service to the community and that of his
boyfriend are totally in self interest.  He wants the police on his side for his
business interests.                                                                             
                                                                 
2:28 pm edt 

Chief Jaran

Jeff is a nice, decent, good man and father. What swirls around him in
his position is inevitable, but lets keep the former in mind while writing
accusations here. I don't believe he'd do, or order, what has been reported here
with bile and anger. He has too much respect for the law and for his community
and for people in general. Of course there will be speculation about this post
but I offer this honestly: I don't work with/for him or have any affiliation
other than knowing him. I just know him to be a good man.  I think that's worthy
of something.
7:54 am edt 

Wednesday, May 29, 2013

A Blog is Anonymous

So if someone post here, there is no need to know who it is. It is....anonymous.
That is the power of this blog. Post if you want. Sign whatever-- if you want.
But it is a venue to hear what others want to say without retribution. It is
what is it is. Your view is what it is.

That is why blogs are great. Whoever; Whatever.
10:34 pm edt 

Re: To: Bottom Line
 
"I don't think the blog is meant to be an accurate news .  .  ."


"But that part of your statement is accurate."



True that, maybe...  That's the beauty of the blog!!! Nuff saed.
10:33 pm edt 

Re: To: Bottom Line

"I don't think the blog is meant to be an accurate news .  .  ."


But that part of your statement is accurate.
7:13 pm edt 

Re: Coffee Chat

Oh sure you went to the coffee chat. Oh sure you did. Willing to show
up to an intimate group like that but not sign your name here. Another
falsehood.
7:10 pm edt 

Re: Coffee Chats

I went to one of the coffee chats - save your time - wished I had
saved mine - it was a waste!
2:20 pm edt 

He's an Albatross About Her Neck

The Police Chief is arrogant and insensitive.  The Town Manager is
tone deaf, and by continuing to blindly support him, will be saddled with an
albatross.  He's an albatross to her.
2:17 pm edt 

Coffee Chats

I think coffee chats by the Police Chief is a great social idea.
People don't know him but continue to "bad mouth" him because of his job. Would
you like working somewhere where co-workers treated you like an outcast without
knowing you based on their assumption? One guy said I didn't like the Chief
until i met him. He's a good guy with sometimes a "crappy" job! That says a
mouthful! Imagine young men here for the first time as summer cops and you want
them smiling and pleasant. The experience for them is an eyeopener to see the
antics here that wouldn't be allowed anywhere but is acceptable here. It's a
learning experience for them. I've lived here a long time and it's a learning
experience for me too sometimes. My head is on a swivel! Pride and decency is
non-existent.
11:05 am edt 

To: Bottom Line

I don't think the blog is meant to be an accurate news station or major player
in town issues.  It is a forum fueled by opinions and a place where one can vent
or express oneself, get feedback and get a sense of what is going on here.  If
you are relying on it for accurate news or to affect major town issues, you may
be missing the point.  You call it whining.  I call it expressing.  Maybe if
there wasn't so much frustration, there wouldn't be so much "whining".  Good
barometer of how people in town are feeling, those that blog at least.

It's also good for a belly-laugh every once in a while.

11:01 am edt 

Bottom Line

As I have seen from the past postings over the past couple of years, nothing
posted in here makes difference in the real world. Posting disagreements and
complaints in here is like talking to a dead tree. Nothing happens. I don't like
article XXX or I don't like the chief, I don't like the TM, I don't like
candidate xxx, I don't like so and so. In the end, all of the issues people have
a problem with continuwe on and succeed. Austin got in, the chief is still
chief, the TM isn't going anywhere, the money for the new station didn't come
true and funding for renovating passed but isn't enough. Get real people. Make
your comments known in public instead of hiding behind the keyboards. I don't
have a pony in the race (not from town) but as I come in here for some insight
to local issues from a distance, all I see is a lot of complaining and whining.
Don't you think the selectmen and TM read this and see this is nothing but a
place to whine? Nothing brought up in here of concern !
has ever succeeded. Think about it.
9:15 am edt 

Re: Fifth Column

The Vichy? Seriously? You're actually going to go there? And compare
the imaginary "police state" to Nazi Germany?

Disrespectful, insane and pathetic.
9:13 am edt 

Re: This Isn't What We Want

I'm failing to see what the problem is? I'm not from here, but have lived here
for a about 10 years. Provincetown has NEVER seemed like a "police state" to me.
These officers are doing their jobs, simple as that. I've always known cops to be
professional and rather stoic in other towns, so this topic seems a bit childish to
me. If they're doing their job, that's all that should matter.
9:07 am edt 

Tuesday, May 28, 2013

Re: Fifth Column

Re: "If you are that much a sycophant perhaps you should join the
Vichy."



Oh, right, anyone who doesn't agree with you and your small handful of
conspiracy theorist buddies is a sycophant. Whatever. Sounds like I hit a nerve.
Sorry if the truth hurts.
11:48 pm edt 

She's Listening

"...as they prepare to leave for greener pastures."



From your keyboard to God's ears.
11:42 pm edt 

This Isn't What We Want

To feel oppressed by the police. To watch what we do. To second guess ourselves.

This is not what we want for us nor for others. It is not what we want as the
tone and actions of the police.

We do not want such opposition. but it has happened. Sad but true. It has become
an us versus them, when before we were all in this together.

How did this happen? I don't know but I do know it is now our sad reality.
11:09 pm edt 

Re: What Have They Done?!

It is what the Police Chief and Town Manager are  doing that is making people
(and rightfully so) feel that Provincetown is becoming what is commonly called a
"Police State".  Normal, every day activities in Provincetown are now heavily
scrutunized by a very heavy handed police force hand picked by chief Juran.  No
longer are local residents hired to work as part time summer Harbor Masters, no
longer are local residents hired as police officers (part time or full time),no
longer is there a friendly unarmed harbor master greeting arriving ferry
passengers.  Instead, at every intersection, every cross road in town there is a
smiling (laughing up his sleeve) police oficer surprising everyone with a
ticket.
Think about it: No longer are police officers picked from the state supplied
list of qualified available officers. Now we have officers hand picked by the
chief and town manager. Now we have non smiling, intimidating, armed police
officers greeting departing ferry passengers(nice first impression of our town).
Now we have armed police officers, unfamilure with our harbor as harbor patrol
personnel.  The list goes on and on, but people chose not to see what is going
on, and don't bother to attend meetings in an atempt to become informed.
11:05 pm edt 

Put on a Happy Face

Putting all the police state banter aside,  The one thing the police
could do in an instant to Improve their likability and costs absolutely nothing,
is smile or make a kind gesture or even a hello would be suffice when walking
past!
11:02 pm edt 

The Sharon and Jaran Show

Does anyone really believe that the Sharon and Jaran Show is playing
its endgame here? Listen you tools, you are providing resume candy to the
Hessians as they prepare to leave for greener pastures.
11:00 pm edt 

Fifth Column

Re:"If you are THAT fearful of the police, maybe you should take a long
look at yourself."



If you are that much a sycophant perhaps you should join the Vichy.
10:58 pm edt 

Re: You Had to be Here

Re: "If You Weren't Here This winter and Early spring
then you wouldn't have seen the over-policing, the many cruisers stopping winter
residents and the hidden parked cruisers along Bradford and also at the
Provincetown Inn"



Oh PLEASE! I WAS here all winter, and I saw nothing of the sort. Anyone who got
pulled over and given a citation deserved it. Doesn't matter if you are a winter
resident or not, you still have to obey traffic laws. I live on Bradford St. and
can testify to the fact that speeding is and always has been a problem. I and
many of my neighbors have asked for more police enforcement over the years so we
can safely walk, cross the street, walk our dogs, etc. without fear of being run
down by people like you who think speeding is their god given right and
privilege as a "winter resident." The police are doing a good job and most of us
are thankful for it.
10:52 pm edt 

Let's be Honest

The reason why the voting on the police building at Town Meeting was
postponed was to try to "market" this thing to us. The chats are one of
the ways we're being approached for such marketing.
6:52 pm edt 

Re: Coffee Chats

The coffee chats will look good on his resume when he searches for a job in Utah
6:50 pm edt 

Truth be Told

In all the years I've lived here, I''ve not been aware of such
opposition to and disapproval of a town employee, as with the police chief.And
please don't reply by saying it's a vocal minority.It isn't, and most of us well
know it.
6:33 pm edt 

You Had to be Here

If You Weren't Here This winter and Early spring
then you wouldn't have seen the over-policing, the many cruisers stopping winter
residents and the hidden parked cruisers along Bradford and also at the
Provincetown Inn. Everywhere when so few people were here. This you would have
seen and felt had you been here. But if you're in Fort Lauderdale, Vieques,
Acapulco---then you wouldn't have witnessed what many of saw day in and day out
and through the dark nights of winter.
6:29 pm edt 

Re: Vocal Minority

"Oh, I get it!  Is this why he has to hold coffee chats to get his pet
project approved, because of "nothing but a vocal minority..."?"




Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
6:25 pm edt 

Re: No One Disagrees That There is a Need For a New Police Station

Frankly, I disagree.  I don't think we need a new police station, and even if we
did, I don't think it's the top priority where money should be spent.   There
are many other ways I'd spend the money before renovating or building a new
police station.   Don't get me wrong, I lover the Chief, I just think we have
other priorities.  Sorry, but I just don't think we need a state of the art
police station.  I could live with a state of the art 911 system without all the
offices, cells, interrogation rooms, evidence rooms, etc, etc.
6:19 pm edt 

Re: How Would You Feel?

"Due to the misguided influence of a "tree lady" everything gets
sidetracked."


Don't you love it when posters like the one above try to devalue the concerns of
MANY in this town by minimizing things - it's the tree lady, no, it's a vocal
minority, no, it's just one or two people posting over and over, no, it's
Superman...
5:29 pm edt 

Re: Vocal Minority

The only vocal minority is the people who keep posting over and over
again about how great the chief is.  Good luck with the new station. lol
5:24 pm edt 

Re: How Would You Feel?

"If for well over a decade you have been told that your work place is dangerously
in need of repair or replacement."



All the buildings you previously referred to were repaired, not replaced. The
police station can be repaired or renovated too.

Signed,

Not sleeping with the police, but would love to, They are great.
5:23 pm edt 

TO: How Would You Feel?

No one disagrees that there is a need for a new police station. The disagreement
is over the venue and the proposed size. There is a process, just as there is
for all of the things mentioned in your posting. Street paving has been needed
for more than a decade. Look how long that took to get started... and it's not
even done! The new library did not happen in a couple of years. It took nearly a
decade.

Part of the disagreement about a new police station was fueled by the proposal
for expansion, which was not the best PR move given the economy and most reduced
pocketbooks of many of our residents.

The fact that the department has been criticized for its size is reflected by a
general sense of distrust. Ramming it down one's throat does not create harmony,
nor does it evoke trust. The chief and his staff now realize this and are paying
the price in having to wait longer for what is needed. Patience is a virtue.

Keep in mind that the majority of the police force is in the field, and they
have been resourced with new vehicles, vests and other communication tools every
year.

The process is cumbersome, by design. That is what makes America both special
and unique.
5:20 pm edt 

How Would You Feel?

If for well over a decade you have been told that your work place is dangerously
in need of repair or replacement. During those over ten years your concerns are
not addressed. However during those ten years your "employer" has provided funds
for a new pier, new library, new streets, new water main, new town hall, new
sewer system and many others.
Then when it comes to your area and after receiving town votes to proceed with
the design stage, everything stops. Due to the misguided influence of a "tree
lady" everything gets sidetracked. Suddenly after all these years, the
acknowledged need for the new station becomes a rant of police state, too much
staff. Overall disregard for the individuals we are responsible for taking care
of as residents and voters of this town. After everyone else has gotten their
fancy new places of employment, all of a sudden its not justified for the people
who keep us safe, keep in contact with us during a major strom or incident
(while everyone else is spending the winter in Florida - probably not
complaining about their second home police). They deserve common comforts, they
deserve a safe place to work. And they do not deserve the crap that whoever you
are on this blog is spewing. Why not just leave town if its that bad. The town
will be better off from your departure. And I can continue !
to love this town and its people. And its police.

Just ask yourself, how would you feel?

PS: Sorry not a cop or do I sleep with one.
1:56 pm edt 

It Was a Memorable Memorial Day Celebration at Town Hall

Thanks to all who were there and to those who performed. Thanks to the band for
being there and providing such patriotic atmosphere. It was a wonderful
celebration for all those who died for our country in World War I, World War II,
the Korean War, the Vietnam war, the Gulf War, the war in Iraq and the war in
Afghanistan. So many people gave so much and we have our freedom through their
actions and their sufferings.

Well done Provincetown! Well done indeed!
1:53 pm edt 

Change--Not For the Better - Provincetown "Bliss Point"

The food industry does much research trying to find ways to attract, if not
seduce, consumers. they know that if you add sugar to products, people like the
food more and more. but if they continue to add too much sugar, something happens:
people become repulsed at the sugary taste and are repulsed at the food
offerings. They have gone beyond the "bliss point."

It is similar to towns. Yes, we surely want police helping us with robberies, or
coming to our assistance when we are in trouble. We want police to direct
traffic as our streets become parked with tourists. We want people who we know
and who care about our problems. but then, you can add too many police. You can
have too many cruisers. You can have too many police up and down the pier. then
you have fear and caution, instead of safety and contentment. You start to feel
unsafe at the number of police installed for your "safety" and the number of
police everywhere. then you start to feel uncomfortable and the town has gone
beyond its own "bliss point."

Instead of comfort, we feel discomfort; instead of safety, we feel scared;
instead of delight, we feel fear. That is what has happened with the increase of
police officers who do not know the town nor its residents and the presence of
too many in too many places.

Provincetown's "bliss point" of two years is gone and what has replaced it is
still unclear and as yet unknown. But it does not make us feel good at all. It
leaves us unsure, afraid, and unhappy.
1:52 pm edt 

Request of Webmaster

Could you Repost the posting about the "Bliss Point"?
I wanted to read it again but can't find it. Would you please re-post? The idea
that Provincetown has gone beyond the "Bliss Point" was interesting and to the
point. thanks for doing this.
1:45 pm edt 

Ann Woods Did Not Put Words in Sharon's Mouth

Re: Police State

She quotes Sharon and it is Sharon that is talking about the perception of
Provincetown as a Police State. Obviously, the town manager is confronting real
perceptions, real fears, and real images of how this town is now being policed.
these perceptions are based on actions taken by the police, the increase use of
cruisers, their hidden parkings, their increased presence on the pier. this is a
marine town that does not want the piers filled with police. It isn't that we
don't want police here in town. Of course, we do. but in moderation. and that is
what has changed. It is now filled with too many police who many in this small
town do not know. they are outsiders intent on ticketing, intent on stopping
people,. this is not the Provincetown we love and want back. this is what Sharon
is hearing. Let's hope she makes a change. It's in her power.
1:43 pm edt 

Police State Cult

These 'police state' people remind me of a cult. They just keep
spreading false rumors and trying to recruit others for their cause and
preaching doom and gloom, but it appears obvious that their numbers are few and
nobody is really taking them seriously. Despite their constant posting on this
blog, they still have not made it clear what they think the police are doing
wrong. If you are THAT fearful of the police, maybe you should take a long look
at yourself.
11:00 am edt 

Re: Police Chief Jaran

"I've seen nothing to indicate your group is nothing but a vocal
minority in light of the repetitive posts on this blog."


Oh, I get it!  Is this why he has to hold coffee chats to get his pet project
approved, because of "nothing but a vocal minority..."?
10:57 am edt 

Police Chief Jaran

"We aren't a minority at all, just aware of the ramifications of
opposing power."



I've seen nothing to indicate your group is nothing but a vocal minority in
light of the repetitive posts on this blog.  A large majority in this town have
no issues with the police department or the police chief.

And your rebuttal that others would post, but they fear retribution is a lame
excuse.  Not seeing it, and you posting the same thing over and over isn't going
to make it more credible.
8:41 am edt 

Monday, May 27, 2013

He's Listening

"Frankly, if I worked in a town where a small minority
treated me the way some treat him I'd leave."


From your keyboard to God's ears.
11:44 pm edt 

What Have They Done?

Could someone please point out to me exactly what the police have done
wrong to get this bad rap? I've lived in town for the past 8 years and I'm just
not seeing it. Exactly what are the police and the chief doing to make Ptown a
"police state".  I realize they want a new police station, but what are they
doing to make people write such nasty things about them? Please do tell.

PJ
11:42 pm edt 

Police Chief Jaran

Re: "Frankly, if I worked in a town where a small minority treated me
the way some treat him I'd leave."



We aren't a minority at all, just aware of the ramifications of opposing power.
This is the resistance vs. the collaborators and we and he should be so lucky
that he leaves before his house of cards tumbles.
11:40 pm edt 

Re: Chief Jaran - The Person

"The Police Chief is one of the kindest and most personable person I
have ever met in such a high position of authority."


I'd have to agree.  I've seen him jogging a number of times, he always smiles
and is pleasant.  I also ran into him at town hall where I had a question for
him.  He was very professional and pleasant.

We're lucky to have him.  Frankly, if I worked in a town where a small minority
treated me the way some treat him I'd leave.
8:01 pm edt 

Sad and Sadder Still

What is this Chief of Police thinking? what does he think is happening here?
does he even have any idea? I hardly believe he knows.

But it is not good in this town. It is not healthy in this town. It is not
joyful in this town.
6:40 pm edt 

Don't Ever Assume You know
 
You really think you know what the webmaster knows and you really believe you
know what some of us know. Wrong and wrong again. You  have no idea what most
think and how presumptive of you to think that you know.
6:37 pm edt 

Chief Jaran - The Person

"The Police Chief is one of the kindest and most personable person I
have ever met in such a high position of authority."



LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL

Not a cop, and not sleeping with one.
6:33 pm edt 

Re: "The Police Chief"

Re: "This Police Chief is toxic, and a liability to the Town Manager -
how sad for her."



That's a succinct way of putting it, I guess.  He's going down, and taking her
down with him.  She might want to reconsider things a bit.
6:31 pm edt 

Expected Increased Police Presence in the High Season

It's ludicrous to think that people are feeling that the town has
become a Police State, based on the number of police observed this week. Those
who live here desire and expect increased police presence in the high season,
and even more so during Carnival, July 4th, Memorial Day and Labor Day. Police
have always been a palpable presence during these times. But in November???
February??? April??? That's what most of us are wondering about.
6:29 pm edt 

Futile Effort

I love the fact that               has tried again and again to take
down this blog. Her facebook page is doa and here we are posting away. Take that
wicked witch!
6:26 pm edt 

Re: Police State

Re: "Obviously, the perceptions are collective and being said and
repeated by many people. Otherwise, would the town manager have taken up the
issue of the perceptions of Provincetown as a police state?"


As pointed out previously by others, the article is quite skewed and it's pretty
clear the reporter steered it into that direction in an effort to create a story
when none existed. Also (again, as stated previously) one of our newly elected
selectmen is hell bent on creating police hysteria in our town for some reason
and has probably planted this inaccurate bug in the town manager's ear. Before
the election he was going around town telling people how the police were
following him and targeting him with speeding tickets, etc. Frankly, these
paranoid rants are the only reason I didn't vote for him.
6:19 pm edt 

Re: The Perception of a Police State

The Perception of a Police State Is Clearly Resonating in Sharon's
Mind

It is the central theme of the front page article about her sic years here.
Obviously, the perceptions are collective and being said and repeated by many
people. Otherwise, would the town manager have taken up the issue of the
perceptions of Provincetown as a police state? this uncomfortable sense of the
town, this frightful attitude exists and people are not pleased about the
actions taken by the police, the increase number of police , the arrests, and
the pier patrolling. It is just too much for this small town and it is
presenting an unnecessary burden.
10:42 am edt 

If You Are Interested in the Truth

"Even the Police Union will not provide him a letter of support for
the new station!"



I happen to know this is a lie.  The webmaster probably knows it as well, but it
doesn't matter if it promotes his agenda.  If you are interested in the truth
ask any one of your men and women in blue.  Think about it, do you really think
we want to continue working in that building?  Come take a tour, hopefully you
get to be there when the smell of sewage is so strong you want to toss your
cookies. You really think we want work in that environment?
9:02 am edt 

Chief Jaran - The Person

The Police Chief is one of the kindest and most personable person I
have ever met in such a high position of authority. I am grateful that he works
in Provincetown and tolerates mean spirited people.
8:06 am edt 

It Looks Pretty Good to Me!

Over the weekend I was glad to see extra officers out in the streets
patrolling this traditionally rowdy crowd. It seems like their presence helped
keep these boisterous young girls in check and kept incidents to a minimum. If
this is the police state people are talking about, well, it looks pretty good to
me!
8:03 am edt 

Sunday, May 26, 2013

Re: Lack of Contact, Lack of Care

Walking around town this Memorial Day Weekend only reinforces how
ridiculous the whole "police state" paranoia really is. I see people enjoying
themselves, having a good time and spending money supporting our local
businesses...AS USUAL.  But keep up with the anti-police postings, please. I
find them hysterically funny!!!  :)
11:20 pm edt 

Re: Police Chief

This Police Chief is toxic, and a liability to the Town Manager - how
sad for her.
11:17 pm edt 

Re: Incident at the Squealing Pig

Re: "Wow, how did this get posted on the blog that doesn't allow
profanity?"


Because Clarence will allow basically anything that will further his own
political beliefs or agenda.


Webmaster Comment: The title and lyrics of the song are both
substantive
and relevant to the resulting reaction and therefore warrant disclosure. 
8:08 pm edt 

Re: The Pig Incident

To the blogger that said the Squealing Pig incident was only with the
Police Chief,not the Pope! I bet the Pope would have gotten the same treatment
from people that lack respect for anything or anyone! Some people either have
short memories or they weren't here when people coming here to work,no matter
what sexual persuasion,religion,color or nationality,had to report to Police
Dept. to register and to be fingerprinted. It was precaution not infringement,
for safety,health purposes,or illegalities that preceded them. What;s wrong with
that? Further,,very large crowds gathered by totally blocking Commercial St.
near a favorite pizza place and one time tipped over the police cruiser as it
tried to go by. That was a serious safety hazard and a large expense to the
taxpayers,when in fact those people should have been flushed  down the street
with fire hoses,but that would have been another taxpayers liability rather than
the offenders! Another issue that people keep harping on,for your information,is
that police check business establishments.
That has been common practice. Sometimes the Fire Chief and the Health Agent or
Asst. would accompany the Police to check for overcrowding ,especially the bars
at night.If you behave in public and drive according to the laws ,you won't have
repercussions with the local constabulary. Live and let live but always with
respect for others. It's common decency friends!No,I'm not a cop! That's the
most unpopular job in town!!
7:55 pm edt 

Re: Police Chief - Problem at the Top!

Very credible people are talking about the police problem on Facebook,
on the street, in private conversations.

Why is nobody going public?  Why would they?  The chief and his gf have shown
themselves to be petty and vindictive.  It just isn't worth the risk.  But they
know it's a problem and the TM clearly knows it's a problem.

People should stop talking about a police state, though.  The problem isn't the
force, it's the top.  And it may be the TM too if she won't do something about
it.
7:52 pm edt 

Re: Police Chief

"Even the Police Union will not provide him a letter of support for the new station!"


If true wouldn't this make a great investigated article for the Banner or Cape
Cod Times!

Just Saying,
7:48 pm edt 

No Pole Long Enough?

I think we're all in trouble when our select people will not address
The growing anger towards our police dept. this is a major
Issue at this point. As two select people stated to me,we are aware
Of the situation,but wouldn't touch the subject with a 10 foot pole.
7:47 pm edt 

Re: "Police State" Insane Rhetoric

Who in their right mind would/or could publicly denoune the Police Chief or his
mentor (the Town Manager) in what is being described as a Police State?
7:45 pm edt 

Time For a Change

Provincetown has changed from the party loving, community oriented, friendly
town it used to be primarily due to the insensitive actions of our Town Manager
and Police Chief.  The Town Manager through her indirect actions and the
PoliceChief through his insensitivity by initiating sensless arrests,
intimidation practices, and publicly attacking the Harbor Masters office as well
as a local business  owner in the media over the "Mooring Field" non issue have
destroyed the fabric that has held our "nice little town" into a public
mockery!!!   Let's  get rid of them both when the Town Managers contract
expires, if not sooner.
7:43 pm edt 

Re: When Gay's Had to Register With the Police?!!

Gay Men had to register with town hall before being allowed to wait
tables in the 1960s in this town.

This is not made up, this is fact. Sorry you would like to believe this town has
always been so welcoming but it actually happened (the registrations) so, why
don't you educate yourself before denigrating another's post... ignorance of the
past doesn't make it untrue.
7:39 pm edt 

The Pig Incident

"Re: Police Chief at the Squealing Pig
Just listened to Fuck tha police on youtube......"


Wow, how did this get posted on the blog that doesn't allow profanity?
10:12 am edt 

Lack of Contact, Lack of Care

I have lived in Provincetown for about 15 years.   I own a business
and not once has a police officer ever visited our establishment, except on 2
occasions when we called to have 2 tourists removed for being way too drunk and
disrupting others around them.  It would be very welcomed to know officers.  

I nod to them as I am walking on commercial street, with little or no reaction on
their part.   I do not see a police state as some have claimed, but I do not see
any feeling that anyone of them cares about the town either.  (Can I mention 
      who is on the force?  He is the only one that stops and will engage in a
warm and friendly conversation)
9:56 am edt 

Police State Quantitaive Evidence

"What a load of crap. Where is you quantitative evidence of any sort
that we are over policed versus any other town on the cape or elsewhere in MA
with similar tourist dynamic?"



Look or read what is being said and written about the inner workings of our
Provincetown government.  The Town Manager and Police Chief are creating what
has been historically termed a "Police State".  Look at the number of winter
residents here in our town.  Do you really justify in your mind the number of
police officers working here? Look at the pier, do you really believe it
requires four police officers to be assigned there exclusively?  Do you really
believe Provincetown needs mororcycle patrol officers to supplement foot patrol
of our 1.5 square mile town as well as the multiple police patrol car fleet the
town has?  Do you really believe, at an increased cost of over one hundred
thousand dollars, we need armed police patrolling our harbor?  Sorry, but if you
are really interested in quantitive proof or rationale for describing the
direction Provicetown is taking as that of a Police State, look and listen to
what is going on.  Attend a Town Meeting, attend a couple of!
  committee meetings, then blog your educated opinions. An educated populous is
the basis for a strong Democracy.
9:50 am edt 

Repeated Paranoid Conspiracy

Re: This Blog and its repeated paranoid conspiracy theories (eg,
police state, lesbian controlling cabal, etc)

Today's New York Times has a great article on why even rational people are prone
to conspiracy Theories. Pretty much nails much of the cause of the stupidity we
see spewed forth here. Some pertinent excerpts include;

"....Swami and a co-author summarized this research in The Psychologist, a
scientific journal. They found, perhaps surprisingly, that believers are more
likely to be cynical about the world in general and politics in particular.
Conspiracy theories also seem to be more compelling to those with low
self-worth, especially with regard to their sense of agency in the world at
large. Conspiracy theories appear to be a way of reacting to uncertainty and
powerlessness.
......
In 2006, the political scientists Brendan Nyhan and Jason Reifler identified a   
phenomenon called the backfire effect. They showed that efforts to debunk
inaccurate political information can leave people more convinced that false
information is true than they would have been otherwise. Nyhan isnt sure why
this happens, but it appears to be more prevalent when the bad information helps
bolster a favored worldview or ideology.
In that way, Swami says, the Internet and other media have helped perpetuate
paranoia. Not only does more exposure to these alternative narratives help
engender belief in conspiracies, he says, but the Internets tendency toward
tribalism helps reinforce misguided worldviews."

There is a lot more and well worth reading.
9:47 am edt 

"Police State" Insane Rhetoric

So if all this insane rhetoric about the town turning into a police
state is true as some of you suggest, why is nobody speaking out publicly about
it? Sure, it's easy for a few people to post their paranoid beliefs over and
over on an anonymous blog in an attempt to make it seem as though more people
share their beliefs. But why do none of these people want to be identified? Why
does nobody want to be associated with this crazy campaign to smear the name of
the Provincetown Police Department? I'll tell you why: because its crazy
nonsense. Because nobody wants to be know as the crazy paranoid redneck who
rants about how the police are taking over the town. Because you people know
that what you're saying isn't true and you would be embarrassed to come forward
and say these things in public because in reality, most of the town is laughing
at you.
9:46 am edt 

Police Chief

When this Police Chief came on board, one of his goals was to get rid of
everyone at the Police Dept that has been there a long time. He denies it but he
told a reliable source that was one of his goals and he made that statement in
his first week he started here. If it was not, then ask yourself why are there
so many new faces? Why did he get rid of the ones he did?
 
Approx 19 people have left since he has become the Police Chief. The Police
Custodian was a member of the Dept for 37 years, 26 of them as a full time
Custodian for the Dept and this Chief tried two times before he was successful on
his third attempt (ask the custodian what he did to him, he will tell you).

This coffee chat thing he held recently is a joke and if he doesn't get the new Police
Station, trust me, you will all feel his love.The stories are endless what this Chief
has done, espicially to the ones that worked for him. Even the Police Union will not
provide him a letter of support for the new station!

What does that tell you!
9:44 am edt 

Small Group of People

A very small group of people repeating the same lie over and over.

I don't know of one credible source who believes the garbage.
9:40 am edt 

Re: Police State

"What a load of crap. Where is you quantitative evidence of any sort
that we are over policed versus any other town on the cape or elsewhere in MA
with similar tourist dynamic?"


Speaking "of crap", who's talking about other towns on the Cape or elsewhere in
Massachusetts? We're talking about Provincetown, not a crime-infested area :)
like New Hampshire.
9:37 am edt 

The Pig Incident

Just who do The Chief and his GF think they are ROYALTY ?

The existing PPD service is very unsteady.  First you have all these intoxicated
on the streets tourists over Memorial Day weekend with no arrests. Then compare
with harassing locals with nickel & dime motor vehicle violations, monitoring
locals exiting from restaurants then targeting them, arresting locals for
posting on Facebook(yes it happened last week) then the incident of stalking the
employee of a restaurant ! and enforcement wants to meet the public for a
gentile coffee hr ?????

Chief out to look for a job in Utah.
9:36 am edt 

Sunday, May 26, 2013

Re: Police State


This police state bs is a perfect example of " if you repeat a lie enough times
it becomes by some to be the truth."  What a load of crap. Where is you
quantitative evidence of any sort that we are over policed versus any other town
on the cape or elsewhere in MA with similar tourist dynamic?
12:34 am edt 

Let Me Guess!

"If asked, I will recommend any other restaurant or pub in town. Not
until I hear a public apology from the management of the PIG will I ever set
foot in their establishment or recommend it to anyone else."


Let me guess - you or your boyfriend wear a town police uniform
12:32 am edt 

Too Little, Too Late!

The so called chats by Jaran - too little, too late.He's never shown
any interest in our town.Yet, he's being handsomely rewarded with salary
increases and bonuses, on top of a high annual salary.

If it wasn't for the police station project, he'd never even think of having
these chats.Too little, too late.
12:28 am edt 

Enough Already! Time For a Change!

Time to begin the conversation of finding a new Chief of Police.
Tensions are too high in this town. He has somehow managed to pissoff even me,
one who had held out hope that it was only the new police station causing hard
feelings. No it is something about management of the department and how it is
causing continued friction. The actions this past week at the Squeeling Pig were
one more example of a need for a change.
12:27 am edt 

Thank You for Your Statements

Thank you for telling us what has been happening. Thank you for posting about
your perspective, about what had been and what is now. I really appreciate your
posting.
12:25 am edt 

Re: Police Chief at the Squealing Pig

Just listened to Fuck tha police on youtube......lovely song.  I think
it was funny for the bartender to play it and equally funny for the Chief to
have a light shot through the window.  This is a small town people!
12:23 am edt 

Re: Police Chief at the Squealing Pig

I too think it's hilarious but from a differnt perspective. The chief is in a
bar, off duty. A song comes on the juke box or speakers. Songs are a form of
art. Provincetown is an arts community. Arts are far reaching. Music is art.
Someone is offended and the player of the music is scorned? What if the bar
displayed a rendition of the piece "Piss Christ"? (look it up) Should the bar be
scorned because the display infuriates some? What about nude art displays? Some
would consider it porn while others consider it art. This song is an expression
of someones artistic ideas but now the hypocrites claim it's wrong to play it.
Maybe the bar shouldn't play The Rolling Stones' "Brown Sugar" or "Some Girls"
considering all the ladies in town this week. Listen to the lyrics of those
songs some time.

I love hypocrites. Funny funny funny.
12:21 am edt 

Seriously, What do You People Want?!?

"So many people in town who feel afraid of what direction this town is
moving into. I know some who don't even want to be on the water because they
have no idea what the police will be actually doing this summer as their
presence increases on MacMillan Pier and the police move to take over the
position and work of the harbormaster."


Oh, gee, what do you think the police might be up to on the pier? Yeah, you
better stay away from the water. Better yet, why leave your house at all? Just
stay holed up inside your bomb shelter filled with canned goods, typing away
your paranoid rants about how the police are going to rise up and turn our town
into a prison or whatever it is you crazies think is happening.

Seriously, what do you people want?!? No police? The only reasons our town
manager even bothered addressing this issue in the Banner are a) one of our
newly elected selectmen has some sort of personal agenda that involves trying to
turn the town against the police, and b)the reporter who wrote the article is
trying to come up with something sensationalistic and vaguely interesting in a
sleepy little town with basically no news.
12:15 am edt 

Police State Indeed!!

If no one can understand why Provincetown is being called a "Police State" they
have not been following what Chief Jaran and town manager Sharon Lynn have been
doing.  For example:  The Chief managed to remove the Provincetown police
department from the  requirement to select police officers from the state wide
list of qualified candidates, and allowing him to hire officers of his choice. 

The Town Manager managed to allocate and expend many thousands of dollars
to have plans drawn up and presented to last years town meeting for a Police
station "Taj Mahal".  Collectively the Chief and Town Manager created a Marine
Police Patrol "Pilot" program that exists today despite being reported a failure
at the final 2012 Pier Corps meeting. 

Most recently the Town Manager tried (unsuccessfully) to have the Pier Corps
purchase another patrol boat for the harbor (a Police Patrol boat). Publicly the
Town Manager has stated she wants to remove the present Harbor Master and
replace him with a Police Detective.

As stated in the recent Banner article about the Town Manager, she was previous a 
police officer, and naturally has a "Police Mentality".  Harassing restaurant patrons,
staging speed traps throughout the Town, having armed personnel greeting
arriving ferry passengers, and taking over the Provincetown waterfront, is definitely
"Police State" activity.
12:11 am edt 

Re: When Gay's Had to Register With the Police?!!

"I guess you forgot about the time that all gay
people had to register with the Police."



Ha Ha Ha.  Nice try.

Now you go register for the return trip back from reality.
12:03 am edt 

Board of Selectmen do Your Job!

From the reaction to the Town Manager's interview it is now clear what her views
of this town and its people are like.  But, she needs to understand that we do
not wish to be seen as perceived criminals. 

The BO'S needs to take control and address this issue.  The town is deeply divided 
and there is a definite lack of trust for this town manager and the police chief. 
We demand that the BOS correct this problem.  The people DO NOT want para
military policing in our town, with intimidating and aggressive cruisers and
motorcycles reminiscent of governments that rule by fear. 

We want community policing that is friendly without shows of force.  We want a scaled
down force because we KNOW that we do not suffer from serious crime.  We do not
appreciate intimidation. 

So, BOS  you must do your job.  We gave you notice during the election of what we
wish by voting for the police station to stay where it is, and also by the election of
Mr.. Donnegan and the near election of Mr. Richter.

We are losing  our town.
11:59 pm edt 

Pigs and police

I think the whole thing is hilarious. Cops at an establishment called "The
Squealing Pig" speaks for itself.

11:52 pm edt 

Re: Action at the Pig

"The second was the subsequent action of the Chief whose response was to have
a petrol car shine a high beam spot light directly into the bar on the body of
the bartender."



If this is true then we have a bigger problem with the Chief.

Time for the Chief and TM to be voted off the island!

11:51 pm edt 

Delusional Management

There is great delusion in thinking that just a few feel our town is
quickly becoming a police state.
11:48 pm edt 

Licensing v Policing

We have so many cops that they're now used for business licensing
visitatis. However, as stated already in this blog, there aren't sufficient
licensing staff to conduct such visits.

This tells me what the Town Manager sees as a priority.  A manager allocates his
or her funding and people in accordance to what's deamed as important. Based on
her actions, properly staffing the Police Department is; properly staffing the
Licensing Department isn't.  And by the way, hasn't the town been losing money
by not collecting all of the license fees?
11:47 pm edt 

Re: Truth to Power

But I feel even that increase has more to do with justification for
their numbers, rather than protection of the public.

Amen!!!!!!!
11:38 pm edt 

Truth to Power

When People Speak the Truth--and Truth to Power--You Would Deny the
Truth?

Someone tells us they have bee stopped and harassed. You were not there but you
would offer another perspective. Why? It can only be because you are someone's
mouth piece.

I believe what I read and few would make up these harassment issues. I also know
so many people in town who feel afraid of what direction this town is moving
into. I know some who don't even want to be on the water because they have no
idea what the police will be actually doing this summer as their presence
increases on MacMillan Pier and the police move to take over the position and
work of the harbormaster.

3:25 pm edt 

Re: Re: Captured Well:

The Image of Provincetown as a Police State Well Stated.

And for anyone who hasnt noticed the increased (read oppressive)
police presence, just take a walk down Commercial Street from Lopes Square to
Ryder Street and see a minimum of two, and more likely three or four police
officers directing traffic on this Memorial Day weekend. Ive lived in Provincetown
for 15 years and have never seen this before Chief Jeff Jaran took over.
(For the record, I had been a yearly visitor to Provincetown for 30 years before
moving here.)

The perception I have is there are certainly more police staff than ever before, and
with that perception comes the feeling that someone believes we need to be more
controlled (i.e. 'police state'). I dont feel there has been an increase in crime to
justify this increase in police staff, although from what Ive seen they are ticketing a
good deal more traffic violators.

But I feel even that increase has more to do with justification for their numbers,
rather than protection of the public. There are actually speed traps now on Bradford
Street.

A previous poster pointed out that both Sharon Lynn and Chief Jaran share a
police background, and thus have a skewed view of what the town needs, while at
the same time don't have the benefit of having the institutional memory of what
living in Provincetown has meant to longterm residents. Simply stated, something
was fixed that was never broken, and the equalibrium between police and the
residents of Provincetown is now out of whack.

I worked in the criminal justice system for a number of years, and I dont believe
that the us and them mentality that people in law enforcement have is an
overgeneralization.I dont know if this is based in fact or personal perception, but
I believe historically the police force here was more local, with some officers even
having been raised in town, and I felt they were more us. Now almost none of the
faces are familiar, or even particularly friendly, and this empire that Chief
Jaran is building and trying to sell at the Coffee Chats is just a pubic
relations push in order to get a new $14 million police station, tricked out
with the latest and greatest gadgets and gizmos known to law enforcement. IMO,
this is way overkill.

I think Sharon Lynn and the BOS need to take a step back and try to get an objective
view of what this place is: A vacation destination with <3,400 year-round residents,
with no increase in the percentage of the criminal element. People have enjoyed
living, working, and vacationing here for decades, all without this additional police
presence that has taken place with the arrival of Sharon Lynn and Chief Jaran.
In your minds, what has changed that has led to this increase in law enforcement?
I don't think anyone who has lived here for years would say the increase was justified.

Additionally, the desire to site a new police headquarters across Hwy 6, even
further distances the police from the people, adding to the feeling of us and
them. I agree that the existing police station needs an update, but I feel
strongly that it needs to stay where it is, and downscaled greatly from the
plan.

Ill further state that I am not, nor ever have been a criminal, but when I
occasionally go out for a beer on a Saturday night and walk home along
Commercial Street, I dont feel protected when I see 2 police officers on nearly
every street along the way: I get the same feeling I get when Im in a department
store and feel security guards and staff are hovering around me because they
think I cant be trusted, like Im part of that bad component that needs to be
watched...
2:23 pm edt 

Re: Police Chief at the Squealing Pig

Actually I think the pig /police /song is totally hilarious!
Was the top cop in uniform?  If so then it's a case of getting what
you ask for. If he wasn't in uniform then I salute whoever recognised him.
Respect is earned and he has done nothing to earn mine.
I also refuse to address him as the chief. He is an insult to those who
earned the title.

So far all he has done is beef his manpower, buy toys,  take over the pier and
demand a new station.

No big crime to clean up, no wild street gangs or stray bullets,  just a song in
a bar that insults him.
How long before the retaliation begins against the Pig? I expect something will
be wrong with their licence etc. Soon,,, good luck to them. I'll be having
dinner there tonight.

Its funny people,,  it's. Not like he's the Pope!
2:11 pm edt 

The Mad Hatter's Ball May Be What Is Now Happening in Provincetown

Feels like I have entered a rather surreal existence. all that was good now is
turned on its head. all is upside down. It's not the library part: it's town
hall.
2:07 pm edt 

Change--Not For the Better - Provincetown "Bliss Point"

The food industry does much research trying to find ways to attract, if not
seduce, consumers. they know that if you add sugar to products, people like the
food more and more. but if they continue to add too much sugar, something happens:
people become repulsed at the sugary taste and are repulsed at the food
offerings. They have gone beyond the "bliss point."

It is similar to towns. Yes, we surely want police helping us with robberies, or
coming to our assistance when we are in trouble. We want police to direct
traffic as our streets become parked with tourists. We want people who we know
and who care about our problems. but then, you can add too many police. You can
have too many cruisers. You can have too many police up and down the pier. then
you have fear and caution, instead of safety and contentment. You start to feel
unsafe at the number of police installed for your "safety" and the number of
police everywhere. then you start to feel uncomfortable and the town has gone
beyond its own "bliss point."

Instead of comfort, we feel discomfort; instead of safety, we feel scared;
instead of delight, we feel fear. That is what has happened with the increase of
police officers who do not know the town nor its residents and the presence of
too many in too many places.

Provincetown's "bliss point" of two years is gone and what has replaced it is
still unclear and as yet unknown. But it does not make us feel good at all. It
leaves us unsure, afraid, and unhappy.
2:00 pm edt 

Yes, Even with Bias the Banner Article Shows Us How Bad It is Now

I believe it was going to be an article applauding the town manager for the last
six years of "great achievements." but, alas, it was more about the perceptions
by many here in town that it is turning into a police state. It is not only two
or three who believe that but so many more and that is why the interview became
an argument by Ms. Lynn against that perception.

And so the article tells us much: that too many of us believe that the
governance here is governance by police chiefs and not civil officials. And some
see two police chiefs at work: Sharon and Jeff working in cahoots together.

Some are appalled at the change in the last two years. some have reason to be
appalled.
1:58 pm edt 

Re: Police State

"Very sorry to read that the Town Manager agreed to a front page
article about our "police state". Why cave to a very small vocal minority in
this town? .  .  ."



The Town Manager has always had an open door policy.  Instead of a story about
the Town Manager reporter Ann Wood turned it into a police state story.
1:52 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Police State

"but I have been harassed and intimidated by an angry and furious
Provincetown cop and was fortunate to have three other people next to me or I
believe he would have either hit me or arrested me for no wrongdoing at all."



I don't buy your story.  Not buying it at all.  I am curious as to why you would
feel a need to make up the story.  Don't know the chief, but know a number of
officers and these stories are just that, stories.

I wonder what a small group of people hope to gain by pushing this agenda.
1:47 pm edt 

Re: Police Chief at the Squealing Pig

What I heard was that there are two components to the story.

One was the perceived insult to the chief and his partner (probably correct)
vis a vis the lyrics of the song played.

The second was the subsequent action of the Chief whose response was to have
a petrol car shine a high beam spot light directly into the bar on the body of
the bartender.

The first act was reprehensible, but not illegal. The second act if true, was not only
intemidating but also illegal.

These are the kinds of actions which are synonymous with thirdworld authoritarianism
not the U.S. and not Provincetown. Anyone in a position of authority should understand 
the limits of their power and the required restraints. 
1:38 pm edt 

Re: Police Chief at the Squealing Pig

The song played at The Pig while the Chief and his GF were there was
N.W.A.'s "Fuck tha Police".  I find it disgusting that this song was played at
all in a place of business, much less in the face of the Chief and his GF who
were patronizing this business.  When the song started playing, instead of
skipping to another song, the volume was turned up.  No accident there.

Here are just some of the lyrics.

"Fuck tha police
Comin straight from the underground
Young ni... got it bad 'cause I'm brown
And not the other color so police think
They have the authority to kill a minority"


                                                          
                                                          
                                                         
Here's a link to the full lyrics:
http://rapgenius.com/Nwa-fuck-the-police-lyrics
11:30 am edt 

The Banner Article

Maybe one day we will be able to vote for a town manager instead of the system
we have in place.


Happy Mermorial Day weekend to all!

11:08 am edt 

Provincetown Police State

The poster that stated that for a large portion of this town we now live in
"fear" because of intimidation.  I am in full agreement with this statement.
I too am a law abiding citizen, never have been in any legal trouble, but I have
been harassed and intimidated by an angry and furious Provincetown cop and was
fortunate to have three other people next to me or I believe he would have
either hit me or arrested me for no wrongdoing at all. 

I was tempted to file a complaint but fear of retribution prevented me from doing so. 
This is the definition of a police state.  I truly believe that this unholy alliance of the
town manager and the chief is destroying our quality of life in this town.
10:37 am edt 

Re: Police Chief at the Squealing Pig

"How do I put those two issues together to form an opinion?
What was the song???"



The song played contained the phrase 'police suck' or something like it.  Not
only was it played, the staff turned the volume up to make their point.

I still go to the PIG, but I no longer tip the staff.
10:30 am edt 

Re: Banner Front Page Story

Re: "Keep in mind that any article written by Banner reporter Ann Wood
will have a strong bias to it."



I realize the Banner is not the New York Times, but unfortunately it's getting
more and more like the the NY Post.  Ann Wood definitely has a bias in her
reporting, I don't know if it's just her or if Ms. Rose, the Banner editor is
pushing this.  I've never worked in journalism, but one would think the bias
exhibited by Ms. Woods wouldn't be published by the editor unless she endorsed
it.
10:28 am edt 

Re: Police State

Very sorry to read that the Town Manager agreed to a front page article about
our "police state". Why cave to a very small vocal minority in this town? Just
don't pay attention to them.

And to you who stated "a town that once was a place of freedom, artistic living,
fun-filled and open to all", I guess you forgot about the time that all gay
people had to register with the Police.

I love it now, no need to reference the not so pristine past.
9:29 am edt 

Re: Captured Well: The Image of Provincetown as a Police State

We may not have a police state problem in Provincetown, but we clearly
do have a problem.  The fact that Ms. Lynne had to go on record discussing the
police state perception tells you how widely talked about it is in town.  It's
not going to go away no matter how many of you post that the police are just
doing their job.
9:27 am edt 

Banner Front Page Story

Keep in mind that any article written by Banner reporter Ann Wood will
have a strong bias to it.  She has a strong tendency to report only one side of
the story.
9:25 am edt 

Re: Police Chief at the Squealing Pig

To a previous post: "the owner of the PIG should have terminated the
employee on the spot or the next morning after changing the music and playing
that song knowing full well the Chief Of Police and his GF were sitting at that
place of business, it was purposeful, unacceptable behavior, rude and should not
be tolerated at all. The owner and the staff should be ashamed of themselves
PERIOD!"




I don't personally know the police chief, but have respect for any law
enforcement official trying to do their job.  When I heard of the actions of the
Squealing Pig employee I immediately removed any reference to the PIG from my
business.  If asked, I will recommend any other restaurant or pub in town.

Not until I hear a public apology from the management of the PIG will I ever set
foot in their establishment or recommend it to anyone else.
9:24 am edt 

Re: Police Chief at the Squealing Pig

While there has been some info posted, not enough has been to understand the
situation. A song played? What was the song and apparently, the Chief was there
with his girlfriend? How do I put those two issues together to form an opinion?
What was the song???
9:21 am edt 

Friday, May 24, 2013

Re: Police Chief at the Squealing Pig

Can some tell us what happened at the Pig and Chief?
10:58 pm edt 

Re: I Found the Banner Front Page Article Quite Interesting

"Rights and privileges of all residents are being challenged daily by
the local police"


Can you please back up that statement with SPECIFIC examples????
10:46 pm edt 

Re: Captured Well: The Image of Provincetown as a Police State

Greetings from a Provincetown Bad Component!  I must be getting old,
I use to be a Bad Element. Has it only been 6 years that Sharon has been in
charge. Amazing how she has changed the environment so quickly. I drive
carefully,  stop at stop signs etc. But I feel less safe then I ever did before.
Intimidation causes fear...and Sharon knows it.
So sad for us.
10:43 pm edt 

Open Meeting Law Violation

PROVINCETOWN BOARD OF SELECTMEN VIOLATED THE MASSACHUSETTS OPEN
MEETING LAW according to the Attorney General

I am a bit surprised about the recent official determination issued by the
Attorney General's Office, Division of Open Government which decreed that the
Provincetown Board of Selectmen have violated the Massachusetts Open Meeting
Law. It may be viewed via the following link:
http://barnstablecounty.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/oml-2013-65-provincetown-board-of-selectmen1.pdf
10:41 pm edt 

What Exactly do These 'Police State' People Want?

I live here and have for years. I drive or walk or ride my bike
through town every single day and I have not noticed an increase in amount of
police other than officers working traffic control for the street construction
over the past couple of months. Why is it some people seem to think Provincetown
is turning into a police state and others of us notice nothing unusual?

What exactly do these 'police state' people want? Do they want the police to
just leave everyone alone and do nothing? It's their job to patrol and protect
the town.
9:48 pm edt 

Re: Police Chief at the Squealing Pig

What job did the Police Chief do at the Pig?
9:43 pm edt 

Police State?

I received a speeding ticket approximately 7 years ago.   I was
speeding and deserved the ticket.  I would rather I hadn't been caught, but
unlike many of the posters here I accept responsibility for my actions.  I broke
the law, I got caught, it wasn't the police department's fault I chose to break
the law.

Police state? You can't really be serious.
9:42 pm edt 

The Growing Problem of Unfunded Obligations

From an October national business press article on mismanagement of
public pension systems:


"Massachusetts
In the past ten years, Massachusetts appropriated $1.8 billion less than the
annual required contribution to pensions. That means taxpayers in Massachusetts
have to make up the $1.8 billion that wasn't invested into pensions plus the
lost assumed rate of return. In addition, over the last ten years the assumed
rate of return was 8.25% but the actual rate of return was only 6.53%. Taxpayers
not only need to make up the difference between the assumed rate of return and
the actual rate of return, but also insufficient contributions based on the
false rate of return assumptions."
9:40 pm edt 

Re: Captured Well: The Image of Provincetown as a Police State

I was shocked at the town manager's comment about the "bad component"
in Provincetown.  It is very telling that she used such a broad, non-specific
term.  Who of us, I wonder, is a bad component?  Pot smokers? The homeless?
Alcoholics? The mentally ill? The poor? The double-parkers? The stop-sign
runners? WHO IS THE BAD COMPONENT?  I'm also surprised that the reporter didn't
ask that question--leads me to think that it was a puff piece intended to
provide the town manager with good publicity.

This is typical police thinking: no shades of gray. There is just bad and good.
When someone says they want to protect the town from the "bad component," I am
reminded of Richard Nixon and his belief that anti-war activists, Jews, Blacks,
and Kennedys were "bad components," and therefore he was justified to use the
FBI to infiltrate and wiretap people, etc.  I then think: police state.

I am fairly certain that Lynn and Jaran believe they are doing the best thing
for "the town."  However, they are both police trained, they both think like
cops: bad/good. Neither of them has any real institutional memory of
Provincetown; they are operating from their own narrow assumptions.

One thing would make me think differently about them. I want an apology from
both of them about the "rape speech" given by Officer Meredith Lobur (and
approved by the police chief and the town manager) last year at a public meeting
in which they tried to make a case for a 14 million dollar police station by
scaring us with a story about how someone could break into our homes and rape us
"vaginally, anally, and orally."  Yes, she used those words and more; she went
on and on with appalling and graphic details. Far too many of us in Provincetown
have been raped, know what that is like, know that it rarely, if ever, happens
the way that Lobur described it. There were people in attendance who were
traumatized by that speech, and no one has yet to offer any sympathy, admission
of wrongdoing, or apology.  These are people who do not know the community, and
I offer that they may actually be the "bad component" in Provincetown.

I wish I could attend one of the police chief's "coffee chats," but I am unable
to. I would ask two questions: Who exactly is the "bad component"? and Why
hasn't an apology been offered to the townspeople for that horrid "rape speech"?
I hope that someone would ask these questions.

Thank you for hearing me out. I have been tempted to post here before, but the
Sharon Lynn article finally drove me to it.
9:36 pm edt 

Re: Police Chief at the Squealing Pig

To a previous post: the owner of the PIG should have terminated the employee on
the spot or the next morning after changing the music and playing that song
knowing full well the Chief Of Police and his GF were sitting at that place of
business, it was purposeful, unacceptable behavior, rude and should not be
tolerated at all. The owner and the staff should be ashamed of themselves
PERIOD!
Decisions should have consequences and that owner and his bartender should know
better! Why don't you ask the owner of the "pub" to speak about it publically he
is the coward!

Clarence will you post this?
9:28 pm edt 

Re: Captured Well: The Image of Provincetown as a Police State

Amazing the number of  adult residents that do not see the similarity
to what is happening in Provincetown to an actual "Police State" such as North
Korea.  Rights and privileges of all residents are being challenged daily by the
local police, and the common will of the Town Manager in concert with the Police
Chief, are being imposed on Taxpayers.

Provincetown does not need as many police officers as are currently on the
payroll during the "Off Season" , nor does it need a new multi million dollar
police station with all the latest "Bells and Whistles" the Town Manager and
Police Chief claim they want (vs what is needed).  Couple those items with the
Police Patrol Pilot Progam that was reported by pier tenants to be failure last
year yet reserected again this year necessitating a new boat, increased
personnel and the elimination of hiring local residents as part time Harbor
Masters and the elimination of the Police Chief being required to hire officers
from the State approved list (he can now hire anyone he wants) and you have the
begining of a Police State.

In one of his past newspaper quotes the Chief claimed someone else's complaint
did not pass the (smell test).  Well the fact Provincetown is indeed fast
becoming a "Police State" stinks!!!
9:25 pm edt 

Re: I Found the Banner Front Page Article Quite Interesting

When I get in my car, and I drive by, literally, 5 police cruisers
during my ten-minute drive, I do consider it a Police State.
Also, a cruiser was illegally parked downtown this Friday morning, blocking
deliveries by trucks downtown.

One who abides by the law, but wishes for a diminishing presence of cruisers
around town.
9:21 pm edt 

Re: I Found the Banner Front Page Article Quite Interesting

Good that Sharon realizes what too many of us have for the last two years: too
many police, too many cruisers stopping people, and too much of an over-reach by
the police.
9:20 pm edt 

Re: Police Chief

So why don't YOU mention it in detail as to what happened.

Inquiring minds want to know.
9:19 pm edt 

Re: Captured Well: The Image of Provincetown as a Police State

Seems the Town Manager Knows that the Sense of a Police State
permeates this Town

She is not responding because only one or two believe this. It is the lead in
the Banner article. She is confronting reality: the image held by many that
Provincetown is over-policed and residents and now tourists soon to follow are
being stopped, ticketed and arrested.

There are also many others who now have changed how they act and live here. It
is like the police have taken control of a town that once was a place of freedom,
artistic living, fun-filled and open to all.

Now you better be dull, safe, and watch your bum.
9:17 pm edt 

Police State

It seems that Ms. Lynn lives in her delusional state of law enforcement.
This is what is to be expected from her, considering that this has been
ingrained in her mind from very early on.  Where else do we see so many cops
riding around in big aggressive vehicles? One does not see this in other tourist
communities, not in big city suburbs  and not even in big city neighborhoods
with crime problems. So is it any wonder why Provincetown is becoming known as a
police state.
9:15 pm edt 

Re: Captured Well: The Image of Provincetown as a Police State

Re: "How odd that this has happened here. How tragic that a place that
was once open to all in the past is now over-policed and over- regulated. this
was a place that heralded freedom, live and let live and creativity. Now, it is
about towing the line, agreeing with those in power and living within strict
limits imposed by the police."


Is this a joke? What the hell planet do you come from? Who told you that you
could move to Provincetown and there would be no enforcing of laws? Crazy.
That's all I can think if to say. Webmaster, why do you continue to allow these
insane posts?
9:44 am edt 

Re: Police State

This resident and taxpayer does not feel that Provincetown is a police state.
Our spending on police is totally in line with our property values and pay
levels, adjusted for inflation, are close to historic rates. To say we are
becoming a police state is utter paranoid nonsense, take a lorazepam and give
this tired rant a rest.

- not a town employee nor sleeping with one
9:12 am edt 

Captured Well: The Image of Provincetown as a Police State

It is coming from the town manager and her fears of our fears reflects the new
reality. We have moved in a dangerous police state condition. With the police
adding more police to the pier, we have them overseeing and arresting boat
owners. The "bad Component" or something like this that town manger Lynn alluded
to. That is who is being arrested, the "bad component" of the town. Seems like
this "bad component" includes many artists.

How odd that this has happened here. How tragic that a place that was once open
to all in the past is now over-policed and over- regulated. this was a place
that heralded freedom, live and let live and creativity. Now, it is about towing
the line, agreeing with those in power and living within strict limits imposed
by the police.
9:09 am edt 

Police Chief

Nice job by the chief at the pig the other night. How come everybody
knows and nobody dares bring it up in public?
9:07 am edt 

Re: The Perception is Right

Re: "Many see Provincetown as Becoming a Police State... It's the kiss
of death for a tourist destination."


Well, since you are presenting your opinion as if it were fact, I will respond
by doing the same: There are a FEW obsessed individuals in Provincetown who
insist on perpetuating the myth that most of the town shares their bizarre
infatuation with the police department. These misguided folks continue to throw
around the term "police state" over and over, likening our little town to some
Orwellian nightmare. Their most recent tactic in the campaign to turn the town
against the police department is to claim that tourists will be frightened or
repelled by the supposedly intimidating police presence in town.

However, most of the sane residents of Provincetown are laughing at this
foolishness and will be laughing even harder when the season gets into full
swing and the tourists return as they have every summer to enjoy the many gifts
our town has to offer. They will not complain about the police nor will they
notice an increased police presence in town. And they will be back next year and
the year after that.

Now, can we PLEASE move on from this ridiculous non-issue?!?
9:02 am edt 

Thursday, May 23, 2013

Re: Town Manager's Property Tax

"How is it that the town manager's condo .  .  ."

Is it true that there is a lien on the                            house due to the fact
they lost a lawsuit a number of years ago?

Mr. Webmaster, I assume that if you are accepting posts that attack the town
manager you will also accept posts that question the integrity of the         
               .


Webmaster Comment: The posting concerning the issue of
assessed property value in no way reflect on the integrity of
the Town Manager. It does raise the issue of the fairness of
the assessment process. 

There is nothing untoward about paying legally assessed taxes
on an established value for property.
 
As for the other issue, it is a private civil matter that should concern
only the parties directly involved
.    
7:57 pm edt 

Re: Town Manager's Property Tax

TM's property taxes in question. Come on.  When another property was
brought into question about the very same concern, it was nay nayed and poo pood
and consequently ignored.  Assessor's rates not set yet was the bogus
explanation.  Your concern will be ignored also.  Wait and see.
7:33 pm edt 

MJA and FinCom

Mary Jo has shown by her selections that she only wants her cronies on  board. I
question her selection of a man who bankrupted two businesses as an expert on
finance. I question her timing in announcing a new member immediately after
finding out he was not elected to BO'S.

You've criticized the Town manager for appointing her wife to the library board,
which has no real authority, while you applaud Mary Jo's selection of her
husband to the most important board in town.
So much for consistency or ethics.
6:23 pm edt 

The Perception is Right

Many see Provincetown as Becoming a Police State

With so many police, here, there and everywhere. With the police moving into the
harbor scene. with cruisers along Bradford and around the West End, at times
concealed from the average driver. with people stopped, pulled over and
ticketed. yes, Sharon, as you say in the Banner: this is the perception and
there sadly are too many reasons why residents feel this is true.

It is not what it was years back. but it is moving intractably in this scary
direction. this is not the tone any tourist town wants for itself nor for its
visitors nor for its residents. It's the kiss of death for a tourist
destination.
6:16 pm edt 

Town Manager's Property Tax

How is it that the town manager's condo ( beachfront) which she purchased in
2003 for  over one million and is now on the market for $1.1  million, be
assessed in the mid $600,000.  What is going on with this property when it seems
that everyone else's property is assessed at close to its market value.  Is she
knowingly not paying her fair share of property taxes?
11:30 am edt 

This Weekend it Begins Folks!!

Have a happy and safe summer!

May all our businesses prosper and our properties not be littered with red/blue
solo cups!

11:27 am edt 

Wednesday, May 22, 2013

Re: Conflict of Interest?

She Chose A Bright, Articulate Editor

The Moderator made a good choice in picking Duane Steele for the position on
Finn Com. she had every right to pick a most qualified candidate. And her choice
turned out to be a good choice. He has been a good and professional member of
the board.
11:46 pm edt 

Re: Conflict of Interest?

If Mary Jo Avellar can appoint her husband to FinCom then significant
others of town employees can post all they want.  MJA lowered the bar on
conflicts of interest.
8:57 pm edt 

Re: Censor v Censure

To:  "I rather Enjoy the English Majors and Literary types Who Write
Here"

That's great. You certainly then support the local artists (verbal or
visual...maybe local... on this blog?).

I would rather enjoy you taking it to the next level.  If you will.  Go purchase
a sample of the local fare... perhaps a "malasada" from the local native bakery
and then proceed eastward to acquire a simple "toy" from the therapy store. 
Take a picture and send it to the blog.  The proof is in the pudding...
7:03 pm edt 

Re: Conflict of Interest?

"Keep in mind however, the opinion expressed my not be their own. It
may be a well rehearsed comment posted by the partner etc. but in reality it
something posted FOR the party that must be held to a higher level."



You're reaching there aren't you?  It may be an alien from outer space posting. 
So if they don't want to be held to your imaginary 'higher level' they could
post here instead.
2:06 pm edt 

Re: Censor v Censure

I rather Enjoy the English Majors and Literary types Who Write Here

Thanks for clarifying terms. that's great. Tell us more anytime.
2:02 pm edt 

To: "What Say You All You Master English Majors?"

I say if this is how you spend your time, you need a hobby.  Plenty of programs
need volunteers.  If you have time to search the dictionary for definitions
about something that doesn't matter at all and then sit at the computer and type
about it, you have time to walk a dog in a shelter or visit an elder in the
sursing home.

What say you to that?
10:15 am edt 

Re: I Find FinCom a Strong and Intelligent Board

Some are smart and some just ain't!

What's all the kerfluffle about Fin Com? Some years ago the Fin Com had a very
intelligent woman member who had only a 10th grade education and then there was
a male Harvard grad that was dumber than a box of rocks with finances. The moral:
Not every uneducated person is stupid and not all the formal education in the world
can make someone smart if they ain't! It's about common sense that configures with
dollars and cents.not degrees!
10:01 am edt 

Censor v Censure

To the poster that was interpreting Censor & Censure:

Noah Webster's dictionary of 1884 says:Censor= Supress anything forbidden,or
harsh critic,or correction of public morals. Censure = act of blaming,or find fault,or
reprimand,or condemn as wrong. Not too different are they? What say you all you
master English majors?
9:58 am edt 

Tuesday, May 21, 2013

Re: Does Anyone Know What's Up With the Charter Commission?

Infections? You Surely Lack Medical Knowledge

How odd. What a strange analogy. Try picking up a biology book, then maybe
later, much later, you could open a Dummies for Medicine book.
10:43 pm edt 

Re: Conflict of Interest?

In reality, it's not a conflict of interest. It's simply voicing someones
opinion.

Keep in mind however, the opinion expressed my not be their own. It may be a
well rehearsed comment posted by the partner etc. but in reality it something
posted FOR the party that must be held to a higher level. Whenever someone posts
a comment and that person is related somehow to the person in position, that
person in position is almost always held responsible for the comments, whether
they like it or not. Could Bill Clinton say something off base without the
question going to Hillary for comment? Could the presidents kids say or do
something shocking without it coming back to the president or first lady? As
mentioned, the partners of those in higher office should remember that their
comments reflect on those they are connected to.
9:58 pm edt 

Re: Conflict of Interest?

I haven't missed the point.  We just disagree.

A partner of a staff member may post whatever they want as long as it is not a
direct conflict of interest.  For example if the partner of the finance director
was posting on behalf of the finance director's budget I might have a problem
with it.

When the FinCom Chair used the FinCom to promote his own personal petitioned
article I had a problem with it.  I felt it was a conflict of interest.

But, I'm not advocating for the town to muzzle anyone just because you don't
like their opinion.  Free speech is a pretty strong right and you'd have a hard
time convincing a court that you have a right to take it away.
5:26 pm edt 

Re: Conflict of Interest?

I think You Have Missed the Key Point

People can write, scream, protest and post. but if they are partnered with
someone who is a town official and /or who holds a major town position, then
they should refrain. why? It's the Caesar's wife issue: Caesar's wife needs to
be as pure as snow, and as clean as the freshest seas. she must be above
reproach.

No different here with those who sleep with those in power.
3:24 pm edt 

Patti Cozzi - Passing

It With Much Sadness to Hear of the Passing of a Dear Friend Patti
Cozzi

I still see her ever-smiling face, her eyes bright with energy, and her
enthusiasm for life so evident in all she did. She had such a generous spirit
and warm heart. She was a joy to be with and she gave so much to this community.

Patti, we often said to each other "You light up my Life!"
12:37 pm edt 

Re: Conflict of Interest?

Re: "That's absolutely correct but there are possible ramifications to
your actions if you decide to exercise your right."



Well then you must be relieved because neither the police chief's girlfriend or
the finance director's boyfriend have posted anything and that would cause an
issue.  You may not agree with something they may have said, but their ability
to post a difference of opinion is not something anyone has the right to stop.
11:32 am edt 

Re: Does Anyone Know What's Up With the Charter Commission?

Political body/human body

The political body is much like the human body. Different actions happening in
one area effect the rest of the body and it's function. The charter commission
would be backbone, setting the standard the rest of the body works from. THATS
where real control comes from. Then there are infections lke the FINCOM
appointed by the moderator, an open wound that won't heal where problems enter
the system and the gain control because they aren't put under control. Those
infections then take over, like at the BOS for instance. FINCOM is where many
are getting their start.

more bio-politcs to come.
9:11 am edt 

Monday, May 20, 2013

Does Anyone Know What's Up With the Charter Commission?

What's their new agenda? Must be one if Ann MaQuire decided she wanted to be on
this board. what changes are up her sleeve? The women are in charge on this
commission.
9:08 pm edt 

Re: I Find FinCom a Strong and Intelligent Board

"It's great when bright and energized people sit on key boards."


It would b great if they were on FinCom, unfortunately they are not.  At least
two do not have a clue as to what is going on.
9:06 pm edt 

Re: I Find FinCom a Strong and Intelligent Board

"It's great when bright and energized people sit on key boards."


That is funny.  Of all the places you can sit.
4:45 pm edt 

I Find FinCom a Strong and Intelligent Board

It's great when bright and energized people sit on key boards. And that's what I
find about Finn Com. It's an impressive array of individuals who are smart,
intelligent and professional. And they've got the guts to take tough positions.
9:18 am edt 

Re: Conflict of Interest?

"Once again freedom of speech prevails.  Anyone has a right to speak and the
neither you, the Board of Selectmen, or the town manager has any right to
infringe on their right to speak publicly."


That's absolutely correct but there are possible ramifications to your actions if
you decide to exercise your right. Remember the old "fire in a crowded movie
theater" scenario? You can yell fire but if it's a false alarm and I got injured
by those trying to flee the false fire that your said existed, I'm going after
you for your expression of your right.

And please don't think that comments made by aquaintences of town officials
aren't fed to them by "reviewing parties". I'm sure they've been ok'ed prior to
posting. Just someone else doing the dirty work.
7:52 am edt 

Sunday, May 19, 2013

To: "Clarence, it Looks Silly........."

How Odd that Some People "Know" Who Posts Here

I posted about the Finance Committee and I am not the Webmaster. A more critical
perspective would help those who "know" they "know" when they don't.
10:21 pm edt 

Re: Best FinCom in Years

To:  "Clarence, it looks silly when you write about the FinCom. 
Especially when you censure any differing view of the committee."


Sorry, "censure" means your are just po'd, with your knickers in a tight twist. 
Censor might be what you are, maybe, trying to say.  Hard to say.
10:19 pm edt 

The Fault is Not in the Stars

So why don't all you naysayers who complain non-stop about the
fairness of the blog, stop blogging?

You can't.  Admit it.  You pick your poison then bark about your choice.  Either
grow up...shut up...or put up.

Lie in the bed that you make.  Awake or asleep, that's your choice.  Not the
blogs.

10:16 pm edt 

Re: Best FinCom in Years

"I think this is the best Finance Committee we've had in years. .  ."


Clarence, it looks silly when you write about the FinCom.  Especially when you
censure any differing view of the committee.
5:36 pm edt 

Yes, so Right!

The Moderator can appoint who she wants on the committee that is in her power to
appoint. Whoever wrote that it is not based on who first applies for a position
is correct. Certain appointments rests with her, as they did with Ms. Rabinowitz
before. the criteria: whoever they want in certain positions.

5:30 pm edt 

If It's Anoynymous, It's Anonymous

Anyone can post if it's anonymous. then there is no real or perceive conflict.
that's what blogs are all about. then your name and position do not influence
the positions you present. So much for the good of anonymous blogs.
5:29 pm edt 

Re: Conflict of Interest?

"The police chief's girlfriend, the finance director's boyfiend. . ."


Once again freedom of speech prevails.  Anyone has a right to speak and the
neither you, the Board of Selectmen, or the town manager has any right to
infringe on their right to speak publicly.

Now they could write anonymously on this blog, but then there is a 50/50 chance
the webmaster would censure their comments.
9:27 am edt 

Saturday, May 18, 2013

I Like the Moderator's Appointments

I think this is the best Finance Committee we've had in years. and what we may
too often forget: they are there to benefit town residents--not to be the voice
of the BOS nor town officials. They are there to make the best financial
decisions given our financial situation.

They tried this year to have us say no on many expensive issues. That voters
want to spend and spend--well,.....but that the members of the Finance Committee
spoke up for us and tried to have us spend less, is great.

Bravo to them.

Maybe soon we'll listen to them.
10:38 pm edt 

The Moderator Can Appoint Who She Wants, When She Wants
 
It is not first come first serve. You can apply but applying does not mean the
moderator will appoint you. It is her decision and she can appoint who she
wants.

There is no ethical issue because she did not appoint whoever stuck their
application into a folder. This is not how it works. It is not rooted in who has
applied nor when they did. It is plain and simple her prerogative.

This is the power of the moderator!
10:36 pm edt 

Mary - Jo Avellar Moderator

Why Mary Jo did what she did is not up to you to immediately cloak it
in unethical behavior.  You have NO IDEA what her motivations were.
Mary Jo has given many MANY Years of service to this town. Probably far more
that anyone else.  To question her ethics is not the thanks that you should be
giving her
9:19 pm edt 

Conflict of Interest?

The police chief's girlfriend, the finance director's boyfiend. Stay
off the these pages if you are getting any benefit from my tax dollars.
Especially the finance director's boyfriend, talk about a conflict of interest.
9:13 pm edt 

What's Appropriate?

"She is speaking to the public on behalf of the chief. Slippery slope
and VERY inappropriate."



But, it would be OK if she posted anonymously on this blog?
9:11 pm edt 

Disaster Waiting to Happen

"The chief's girlfriend has every right to post whatever she wants. But
she is relaying info to the chief and back to the blog, and vice versa. It's a
disaster waiting to happen."



I agree this is a disaster waiting to happen!
Everyone please call or email the TM and let her know this is taking
place on fb.

Anything goes in the town!
9:08 pm edt 

FinCom Past Credibility

"Most of us in town do not listen to the FinCom.  Their credibility
isn't what it use to be."


FinCom lost me when Sharon hand picked buddy Ann Maguire, a FinCom member, to be
in the small group that advised The TM on the new police station. The outcome :
A 14.7 million dollar police building. When a FinCom member sits on a group that
finds acceptable a 14.7 million project, the credibility and soundness of mind
of such an individual, specially one that serves on the FinCom is questionable.


9:05 pm edt 

Friday, May 17, 2013

Re: Sharon Talk to Your Employee

The chief's girlfriend has every right to post whatever she wants. But
she is relaying info to the chief and back to the blog, and vice versa. It's a
disaster waiting to happen.
6:11 pm edt 

Appearance of Impropriety

What Mary Jo did in appointing Raphael on election night, having
delayed her appointment for weeks when there other qualified people had applied,
does not pass the ethics test.

I am not questioning Raphael's qualifications, only the way in which his
appointment was handled.

Remember, it's the appearance of impropriety, as much as the impropriety itself,
that makes people uncomfortable.
5:25 pm edt 

Our Current State of Being

I read this blog for information and to keep up with what people are
thinking.

It's discouraging, however, that everyone is so partisan.
Those who support town government are referred to as a cabal, elitist, cronies,
and more.

Those who question things are often disparaged (perhaps justly) for their bad
typing and grammar, or for not knowing the facts.

The premise of this blog states that there will be no defaming of character or
individuals, but posters often resort to the kind of name-calling found on the
playground.

This is a town filled with strong personalities and strong opinions, but I would
hope that people could at least be civil and respectful
5:23 pm edt 

Re: Spring Businesses in Town

Not sure what you mean that town is quiet. What street are you on?
Commercial Street is busy. And I see people with suitcases up and down
Commercial and Bradford thanks to the high speed ferry. Quit complaining for
just once.
5:18 pm edt 

Re; Sharon Talk to Your Employee

It's called freedom of speech.  I realize you may want to stifle that speech
with which you disagree, but neither you nor Sharon have that right.

Apparently it's OK to say whatever you want hidden on this blog, but not OK if
we know who it is on Facebook.
5:17 pm edt 

Re: Watch the FinCom Meeting

"The finance committee has stated this a number of times. This isn't a
lie--it is the truth."



Most of us in town do not listen to the FinCom.  Their credibility isn't what it
use to be.  It's unfortunate that the 'fiscal watchdog' of the town isn't
trusted by the people they serve.
5:13 pm edt 

Slippery Slope

Why is Kim Hurd, the police chief's partner, playing the role of
communicator between the chief and the folks on the Ptown Community and Politics
blog? She is speaking to the public on behalf of the chief. Slippery slope and
VERY inappropriate.
5:12 pm edt 

Provincetown Public Library

The defensiveness of the library elite speaks for itself.
1:18 pm edt 

Thanks For Explaining the Appointment of Ms. Greene

But, the person who posted about her election as vice chair was in response to
someone complaining about Raphael Richter being appointed vice chair of Finn
Com. The person writing was just trying to show that this was not the first time
a new person to a board was chosen as vice chair.
11:27 am edt 

Re: Spring Businesses in Town

I have been coming here for decades, numerous times each year.  I
agree that the town has not before been this empty in mid-May.  Not even at the
height of the recession.

Maybe it's not reflected in every business's bookings, but it's obviously true.
11:22 am edt 

Watch the FinCom Meeting

A few weeks ago a member of the FinCom talked about the millions of dollars that
taxpayers will owe to fund the health benefits of retirees.

Go and watch the hearing. It was stated that it won't be this year or next
year..but it is coming down the pike.

11:21 am edt 

25% Tax Increase

Due to the health benefits of Provincetown Retirees,,our taxes will in a few
years span of time incur and increase of 25%.

The finance committee has stated this a number of times. This isn't a lie--it is
the truth.
9:30 am edt 

Re: The Library

YES, there is a bitter party, but there is way more
than one person at the party.   The whole situation is repulsive and ugly and
political and lots of good people have been hurt.   Those who defend it are
clearly a part of it.
9:29 am edt 

Provincetown Politics

I have read Ms  Nsgel's fb page and the
Police  Chief's girlfriend should stay off of it.

Sharon talk to your employee

Common sense
7:43 am edt 

Friday, May 17, 2013

Correction - Re: FinCom - Rick Murray

Town boards have rotating terms so that there is always continuity. Patsy Greene
was appointed to the library board to fill the vacancy left by my friend Jim
Cole's death. His term was scheduled to expire in 2014, following his
re-election to the library board in 2010.
Ms. Greene was appointed on an interim basis until the annual town elections two
months later in 2011. She then submitted her papers and ran to complete Jim's
term, which expired earlier this month. She chose not to run for re-election,
but she completed her term. She did not resign.
You may dislike people as individuals, perhaps with reason, but it is unethical
to flat out lie about them.

If you don't believe me, feel free to contact the Town Clerk, who keeps records
of all boards and their member's terms.

You may also verify with him that small boards routinely fill vacancies quickly
because it is important to have a quorum to take any votes, and being short a
member makes it that much harder to maintain a quorum.

Not everything is a conspiracy. I'm sorry if that disappoints you
12:31 am edt 

Re: Have a Good Day! I don't believe This

"They are not stopping you to say: Have a good day! You are naïve. and most are
not stopping people and then saying: have a good day!"


                                                      
I am naive, well maybe if you show respect to people you would get back what you
give.

Hey I was speeding and got off with a warning, have a good day was the icing on
the cake!
12:28 am edt 

Re: FinCom - Rick Murray

".  .  .The library doesn't need a chair who sits in the pocket of the
town manager and her cronies."



Bitter, party of one, bitter party of one.  DSTSS. - Don't Sweat The Small
Stuff.
12:25 am edt 

Re: Spring Businesses in Town

"I do enjoy the emptiness--don't get me wrong. But I don't run a
business and need residents and tourists to be here. Still, so quiet, so empty,
so still.  .  ."



Our guesthouse is on pace for our best May ever so I'm not seeing the
'emptiness' you are.  June is kind of so-so right now so it all kind of evens
itself out.

I'm not going to stress out over it.  As long as I can pay our bills I'm good.
12:22 am edt 

Provincetown Politics

Something is broken when it comes to town politics here in
Provincetown. Town meeting had it's normal 3 nights with some heat, the election
for BOS generated a very much divided electorate for Austin Knight or for Tom
Donegan. Now Candace Nagle and her ptown politics page on fb are trying to make
something out of Raphael Richter's appointment to FINCOM. I believe it is all
caused by the town manager, police chief, his       girlfiend and Candace Nagle
trying to stack the deck in favor of a police station they want built. Please
stop the nastiness before we have had enough and fire the chief or town manager.
12:20 am edt 

Re: Spring Businesses in Town

Don't worry about the businesses! We are up $5,000 on exactly same # of bookings
n first quarter last year vs same time this year. Plus we've booked out more
holiday weeks early and more shoulder season SO,,, the town is fine, business is
good and with all the new restaurants, renovations it's going to be AWESOME!

Cheers to Sharon, Jeff, Rich and all the other hard workers that
"negative-nancy's" are always hitting.  This town was in ruins from the internal
admin's to the exterior bldgs and roads until 4 years ago.  ALL HAIL THE TOWN
MGR & THE CHIEF.  Anyone disagreeing should pack up their things with Clam
Breathe and the rest of the life-long complainers and hit the road to Truro so
we can forge ahead with solidifying this town!!

That's all :-)
11:10 pm edt 

So Few People in Town This Spring

It's like many left for winter vacations and still haven't returned. The number
of people in town walking Commercial Street or driving on Bradford--in spite of
police cruisers there--are so few. I have never in over twenty years seen so few
people in town.

I do enjoy the emptiness--don't get me wrong. But I don't run a business and
need residents and tourists to be here. Still, so quiet, so empty, so still.
11:56 am edt 

Seems to Me that Spelling Correctly is Up to the Poster

Not the webmaster. If you spell poorly, then so be it. It's not up to anyone but
who is writing to spell correctly or not.
11:52 am edt 

FinCom - Rick Murray

Watched the recent FinCom mtg. Rick Murray, in a public statement,
said that there had never before been a newly elected town board member that was
immediately made vice chair. Not true. The library board elected Patsy
Green--the town managers wife--as vice chair immediately. She was supposedly so
valuable to that board that the selectmen APPOINTED her just weeks before the
election. And, alas, she was so commited and valuable that she did nothing and
then resigned after only two years. Thanks, patsy and Sharon, for using the
library for your own political gains. And you, the rest of the board, and some
library casualties know exactly what we're talking about.  If the board has not
elected its new officers yet, I urge them to elect fresh blood to those
positions. The library doesn't need a chair who sits in the pocket of the town
manager and her cronies.
11:36 am edt 

Wednesday, May 15, 2013

Re: What Town do You Live In? Not Provincetown

Have a Good Day! I don't believe This

They are not stopping you to say: Have a good day! You are naïve. and most are
not stopping people and then saying: have a good day!

                                                       
11:36 pm edt 

Re: This is Bizarre

Would someone from the police department come to my house and test all
of the smoke alarm detectors?  Also, while at it, could they install my air
conditioner?
9:25 pm edt 

Re: What Town do You Live In? Not Provincetown

One day last week I was stopped on Rt 6 by a PTown cop.  He asked if I knew why
I was stopped and I replied i was driving to fast officer.  Then he asked if I
knew the speed limit and I replied yes officer it is 45.

I gave my license and reg and he went  back to his car.

After a few minutes he came back and gave me a verbal warning and wished me a
good day.

I then said you also have a good day.

The officer was not rude or combative, so I don't understand all the backlash
about the police.

I now drive the speed limit,

8:43 pm edt 

Re: Elaine Anderson

"Well first of all there was no violation."

There was a violation, to the point that the UU, inmediately after Elaine's
unwise action, crafted a boiler plate disclaimer statement that now appears in
all their e-mails, basically to cover themselves from having other future
Elaines.
8:38 pm edt 

Re: This is Bizarre

To "Seems like the town is making due with the resources they have by
utilizing the police.  IT SAVES MOVEY."



Your blog might actually be taken seriously if you bothered to take the 2
seconds to proof-read it before you hit "enter".  Now it's just funny.
8:36 pm edt 

This is Bizarre

To "Seems like the town is making due with the resources they have by
utilizing the police.  IT SAVES MOVEY."



Your blog might actually be taken seriously if you bothered to take the 2
seconds to proof-read it before you hit "enter".  Now it's just funny.
8:34 pm edt 

Re: Elaine Anderson

There seems to be a pattern with Elaine.  She's so eager to get her
way, that she foolishly acts in ways that legally jeopardize the institutions
that she involves in her issues.

The UU e-mails have never been an issue, and until Elaine's faux pas, nobody had
jeopardized the UU's nonprofit status.

Had it been any other UU member sending such a political e-mail, one could
attribute it to ignorance of how things work in the nonprofit organizations'
funding world.

But a former BOS Chair????
8:29 pm edt 

The Party's Over

If you are not all aware of this yet, Provincetown has become an
extended Barnstable County Fair...Restaurants like Bubalas and the Mayflower
open a month later and close weeks sooner than they did 10 years ago..This is
fantasy land people with no room for new opportunities due to the insane prices
and lack of available staff...There are NO shoulder seasons anymore and people
can travel most anywhere. We have seen the heyday..look around... ZERO work...10
years from now this place will be even worse...If it wasnt for the brilliant,
innovative, and passionate art community, Provincetown would have no
depth....The whole gay thing is not so much a novelty anymore...Stop wasting
your energy on police stations and police on pier and make long term
preperations on boarding this town up in the winter. There is nothing left here
to fight over....
8:25 pm edt 

Re: This is Bizarre

Would someone from the police department come to my house and test all
of the smoke alarm detectors?  Also, while at it, could they install my air
conditioner?

8:21 pm edt 

Re: This is Bizarre

"Would you like to employ more licensing agents?  Seems like the town
is making due with the resources they have by utilizing the police.  IT SAVES
MOVEY."


What this shows is mismanagement at Town Hall.  The Licending Department must
provide assistance and guidelines to existing and prospective businesses in
town.  Also, the Licensing Department must keep records of the license status of
the existing businesses.  Are any businesses operating with inappropriate or no
licenses, notification letters should be sent with a deadline for compliance,
and penalties should the business in question not comply by the deadline
specified in the letter.

Should the deadline not be met by the business, then the penalty specified in
the notification letter should be imposed on such business.

Bizarre ---using police for this.  Oh, I forgot!  We now have an overstuffed,
overpaid police force.  We must find them new stuff to do to justify their
existence and salaries, like the $85,000 cop who was brought in by Jaran 2 years
ago.  LOL
7:15 pm edt 

What Did Elaine Anderson do?

You seem pretty upset with her actions towards you but what did she do? It's not
us imagining but us knowing. what did she do to you?
5:49 pm edt 

Re: What Town do You Live In? Not Provincetown

"If you believe that the police are being courteous and are only giving warnings.
You are not living in this town and/or you are not living in reality. Times have
changed. This town is about giving citations, not warnings. This is not how all
towns work. Plus, it depends who has entered the police department. Change has
sadly come to Provincetown and the old days are gone and the old, kinder days
are behind us."


Check the facts

The police logs are public record.  These records are published weekly and show
an EXACT representation of the motor vehicle stop dispositions.  Please take the
time to go read these logs so that that you are properly informed.  Most stops
in Provincetown result in verbal warnings.  This is documented in the police
logs.

This is not an opinion, this is just evidence that the police here are not out
to just give citations.  If you do not believe it, look at the logs yourself.
5:47 pm edt 

Re: Elaine Anderson

UU membership- Where is the Follow Up????????


Well first of all there was no violation.

But, if you do feel there was a violation why are you not filing a complaint? 
Do you expect others to do it for you?  Get away from your keyboard and actually
do something.
5:46 pm edt 

Re: What Town do You Live In? Not Provincetown

If you believe that the police are being courteous and are only giving warnings.
You are not living in this town and/or you are not living in reality. Times have
changed. This town is about giving citations, not warnings. This is not how all
towns work. Plus, it depends who has entered the police department. Change has
sadly come to Provincetown and the old days are gone and the old, kinder days
are behind us.
4:23 pm edt 

Unfunded Pensions

What is with the person who constantly worries about "unfunded
pensions"? A bit like Chicken Little dont you think? I am a retiree
Who collects a well earned pension. I never worry that someday Barnstable Co.
will go belly up.
It won't and will be fully funded by 2035...doubt if I'll still be around then
but if I am I'll remember you Chicken Little!
Please...there are so many current issues that raise my taxes, top being our
Over funded police state.
If the Sharon/Jarron pressure doesn't stop soon I'll sell. I really feel
uncomfortable living in a police state. No doubt the current surge is
retaliation for not giving them what they wanted.
          .
2:53 pm edt 

Re: This is Bizarre

"Why is the Police Department doing the Licensing Department's job? 
This is bizarre."


Would you like to employ more licensing agents?  Seems like the town is making
due with the resources they have by utilizing the police.  IT SAVES MOVEY.
2:13 pm edt 

Probable Cause

"I don't believe for a minute that the police stopped 1000 or so people
yet only wrote less than 100 citations.If a law was broken then they would write
a citation.If not, then why the stop in the first place.  Perhaps the probable
cause requirement before the stop is NOT being adhered to?"


Some helpful information:

First of all, the standard of probable cause is only for arrest.  It does not
take a JD to know that.  For a traffic stop involving a MGL c.90 offense the
police officer only needs reasonable suspicion that a violation took place to
detain the vehicle (example: a traffic stop).  So in a senseyou are right.
Probable cause is not being adhered to, because probable cause is not required
by law for the initiation  of a motor vehicle stop.

The reason why there are so few citations written is because the police officers
are doing their job!!  Police officers use discretion when deciding to issue or
not issue a Massachusetts uniform citation.  The decision hinges on the attitude
of the operator and the motor vehicle infraction history.  Very seldom do
officers issue a citation to a kind, courteous, and clean motor vehicle record
operator.  This is why not every stop results in a citation.  Wouldnt you
appreciate it if an officer cut you a break for a mv infraction? Most stops
result in verbal warnings because it typically gets the point across that they
violated motor vehicle law without the negative impact of a money citation that
make your insurance increase.  If you do not believe verbal warnings are
appropriate please refer to case Cambridge v. Phillips, 415 MASS 126 (1993). 
Authority to give verbal warnings is covered under MGL c90C s3(a)(1).

Please do not flood this world with ignorant comments that are obviously not
researched.  This is the practice of every police department in the state.  It
is also a good practice because it allows police officers to use their
discretion!  Comments like this only deter officers from giving motorists
breaks.  If you need further clarification on this issue I recommend reading
case law regarding your statements.

1:51 pm edt 

It is Non-Stop Stopping of People in Town

Too many police cruisers stopping too many people. Most are not
speeding. We do not need over-policing. Again, this is a small town with few
people. The crimes are few; the police are many. The equation is plain wrong.
11:28 am edt 

Deliberating About a Chair on a Board is Good

What is your problem? I like the fact that there is deliberation about who
should be chair. I like the fact that there is discussion about leadership.

We surely need that in this town, don't we? Great that Finance Committee
brought up leadership and addressed this important quality.
11:26 am edt 

The Town is Talking About the Police State....

.....and over enforcement. they are talking and are upset with police cruisers
constantly stopping people. Their reputation is much diminished with this
behavior that was never what Provincetown was all about. But now it is all about
them. This is wrong and too heavy handed.

People are concerned and I hear it all the time. It has made Provincetown less
desirable with this assault on the community. And who is being stopped are not
tourists but winter residents. With this continued action by the police through the
coming summer, it will damage tourism and make Provincetown a place to avoid.
11:23 am edt 

Re: Elaine Anderson

"Elaine Anderson"  UU membership- Where is the follow up???????? This
is not her first blunder and will not be her last. Elaine has her agenda and
plays on the "older gal who would not hurt a flea" persona. WATCH OUT- IF SHE
HAS HER WAY SHE WILL devour and spit out someone she chooses to target !!!  I am
one of them. I was used for her " political agenda". I prevailed. However , she
caused me such pain. NOW SHE IS ON THE OTHER SIDE. WHERE IS THE FOLLOW UP ON
THIS???????????????????????
11:18 am edt 

The Police Need to do More, Not Less

Just watch how many people just buzz thru the stop sign on Bradford Street by town hall.  
It's truly amazing, they don't even see it.   I saw one the other day just go thru and
almost hit a bike rider on Ryder Street.   I think a camera should be installed there and
tickets passed out.
11:15 am edt 

Tuesday, May 14, 2013

No No and Absolutely No!

The point of an election as the one for BOS Chair is not unanimous votes. These
are fabricated and false. I hate this "let's all come together and say we agree"
when we don't.

Let the votes count. You are for this Austin Knight, God love you.
But if you are for this Austin Knight, then speak out and let your vote be
your vote.

Otherwise, we live in an insipid world and we don't need this.
11:08 pm edt 

Probable Cause

I don't believe for a minute that the police stopped 1000 or so people
yet only wrote less than 100 citations.If a law was broken then they would write
a citation.If not, then why the stop in the first place.Perhaps the probable
cause requirement before the stop is NOT being adhered to?
11:03 pm edt 

Leadership

I just watched this week's Finance Committee meeting.   It took 50 minutes
before they elected leadership, after spending the majority of the meeting
pontificating about what leadership meant to them.  On the other hand, it took
the BOS less than two minutes to elect its leaders, and there was already some
divisiveness within that time period.   What a sad commentary both boards
demonstrated.   Frankly, the smartest and most articulate across both boards
appeared to be Raphael in my opinion.   I only wish I had voted for him, rather
than Donegan for BOS.
11:01 pm edt 

Re: Walks Like a Duck Quacks Like a Duck

Re: "The increase in traffic stops has got people who live here on
edge. There are some posting on here who want to deny it but ask around and most
feel like the police department are getting very heavy handed.  I have not
posted on here before and I know many who feel the same way."



Oh, stop it already! This is getting absolutely silly. You claim there are
"some" posting on here who deny the supposed "police state?" Well I say there
are a pathetic few posting on this blog repeatedly who are trying to perpetuate
this false and ridiculous rumor. I actually spoke to an officer about this
recently and she told me the force has gotten wind of this foolishness and they
are just laughing about it. What else CAN they do? They are out there trying to
do their jobs and a few disturbed individuals have concocted some crazy
conspiracy theory that they are trying to spread throughout town claiming the
police are over zealous. Unfortunately for these nasty rumor mongers, the good
majority of people in Provincetown are sane and, like the police, are laughing
at this hogwash. Try having a bit of respect for our officers. You may need them
one day. Don't wait until then to appreciate their good work.
10:58 pm edt 

Re: Raphael Richter Did Serve on the Licensing Board

"He applied to be a permanent board member and Michelle Couture refused
to appoint him."


The story keeps changing.  First he didn't have the time to serve on Licensing,
then he had to recuse himself too often because of conflicts, now he quit
because Michelle didn't make him a permanent board member.

Decide on a story, stick to it.  This constant changing of the story is making
me dizzy.
10:51 pm edt 

Missed Positive P.R. Opportunity

I want to mention one more time that the police log is posted every
week on the town's website.  A significant portion of motor vehicle stops result
in a verbal warning according to this posted information.  It seems like a
missed positive p.r. opportunity on the part of the police department to not
make this information known.  One traffic stop can be observed by many drivers
who may jump to the conclusion that a citation is being issued when in reality
few are issued.
1:54 pm edt 

This is Bizarre

Re: "Recent Banner article stating: "There was no other choice but to
have police Det. Richard Alves walk into unlicensed businesses and tell them
they were non-compliant..."

Why is the Police Department doing the Licensing Department's job?  This is
bizarre.
1:51 pm edt 

BOS Vote - Missed Opportunity

I understand that Knight was re-elected chair of the Board of
Selectmen by a vote of 3-2 with Yingling and Donegan voting no.

Yingling and Donegan knew they were not going to win this vote.  Wouldn't it
have been great if they said it's a new year, let's have a fresh start and work
together, let's elect the chair by unanimous vote?  It was more important to
them to vote no to tell Knight they didn't like him.

A missed opportunity to take the high road.
12:24 pm edt 

Enough Already

Glad to see I'm not the only one fed up with this ridiculous "police
state" business. Enough already. The police are just doing their job, same as
they always have. If you don't want a speeding ticket, then don't speed.
12:22 pm edt 

Try On Their Shoes

I get upset when Police Cruisers hide. I consider that entrapment but
when they're exposed on the side of the road that's different to me.  If the
traffic sign says 25 mile speed limit and a driver is doing 31 mi that's against
the law that cases the cop to stop you for speeding. He/she didn't make the
law,they're doing their job of enforcement. Why does anyone get upset with that?
If they didn't do it people would compain about that. Try walking a mile in
somebody elses shoes before complaining! Take the cleats off your heavy
shoes,slow down ,and there's no problem. No,I'm not a cop. Just someone who
appreciates them & yes,I have been stopped by them.
12:20 pm edt 

Dumping at Town Landing Pearl St.

I must have missed the Town posting that it was allowable to dump at Town
Landings !!

To the individual(s) that left the load of unwanted dirt at the end of Pearl St.
...... many thanks. You are truly a fine and upstanding citizen (have my
suspicions of who).
12:16 pm edt 

Re: This Town Has Been Foolish With Spending

"I would agree 100%.  Back in the early 2000s the town foolishly did
not maintain their streets and buildings.  They foolishly underspent on
maintenance.  Now because of their shortsightedness we have to pay up.  You want
to assign blame?  Look at the Selectmen's minutes from the late 90s / early
2000s to see who the Selectmen were at that time.  That's who gets the blame for
where we are today."



Spot on.  But, you will never hear any of them admit they showed poor leadership
and refused to make tough the tough decisions.  It could have been so different
now.
12:13 pm edt 

Walks Like a Duck Quacks Like a Duck

The increase in traffic stops has got people who live here on edge. 
There are some posting on here who want to deny it but ask around and most feel
like the police department are getting very heavy handed.  I have not posted on
here before and I know many who feel the same way.
12:10 pm edt 

Re: Congrats on Avoiding the Single Biggest Financial Problem We Face

"My hearty congratulations to every candidate for selectman, you ALL
avoided any substantive discussion of the many million dollar shortfall in
public pension funding that we will face in the next decade. Not one of you
discussed the absurd assumptions used in the Barnstable pension system
calculations. None of you proposed a way to avoid the massive tax increases that
will be needed .  .  ."



Wrong.  Just flat out wrong.  Were you aware that Barnstable County had a 13.58%
rate of return in 2012?  I didn't think so.  Pension liability will be fully
funded by 2035, did you know that?  I didn't think so.

Ask people who know like I did, don't rely on this site for factual information.
12:07 pm edt 

Public Pension Funding...Selling House

When do you expect this public pension funding to start going into effect? A
person told me about her aunt who died here on the cape..and the house sold in
two and a half weeks..I asked how could that be--and this person was told that
the realtor had people who wanted to be informed when a house is going up for
sale in that area.

Your post has me thinking. I will be 66 years old in a couple of years. I can
sell this house and live in my other house. I can collect social security and
perhaps work part time, volunteer, travel and enjoy care free living.

Do I contact a realtor now--or is it too soon? It could be converted into
condos-BY ME--I don't have to abide by the regulations IF I DO THE CONDO
CONVERSIONS == but if I sell it, the new buyer has to abide by parking rules
etc. etc.

I learned at town meeting that we can ignore the requirements and regulations
when doing what we want to do and that is is easy for me to turn these apts.
into condos.
12:05 pm edt 

Raphael Richter Did Serve on the Licensing Board

He has experience on boards and was an alternate on Licensing. He applied to be
a permanent board member and Michelle Couture refused to appoint him. She said
he needed more experience! Really? when do we stop alternates from becoming
permanent board members? Only when Couture made this uninformed decision. It is
Couture that stopped Raphael Richter from being on Licensing and gaining even
more experience. What she did was unprecedented and wrong.

By the Way, what great experience did McChesney have on town boards before he
ran for selectman? How many years did he serve? He was not a great presence in
this town.
12:02 pm edt 

Monday, May 13, 2013

Commonality

Ann McGuire and Dianna Fabbri were the two highest
vote getters at 888 and 881 respectively.  What did they
have in common.They ran unoppossed.
4:16 pm edt 

Re: Something's Not Right Here

What an asinine comment in "Something's Not Right Here". Unless the
writer has particular knowledge of the reason and disposition of both these
traffic stops, commenting on 31 miles per hour, and dismissing them as "not
right" is pure conjecture, and lacks even a modicum of credibility.
4:10 pm edt 

When Provincetown Celebrates, It Really Celebrates
 
Such great restaurant openings. the Patio's was fabulous as was the Red Inn's.
then there will be Sal's and before this was Victor's. so much fun and so much
of what Provincetown can be when everyone is together and the community is the
community.
4:08 pm edt 

Good morning Provincetown!

No real surprises in the election race. Tom Donegan was expected to win a seat
and he did just that! Good for your Tom! Raphael Richter did a nice job with his
campaign but just couldn't do it. Perhaps if Raphael had a bit more
Board/Committee experience the results would have been different? I'm unsure of
the wisdom of placing him immediately on the Finance Committee though! I guess
it pays to be an ally of Mary Jo! Shouldn't there be a vetting process before
someone is just placed on the Board? Aren't there other qualified candidates who
have applied?

One of the biggest surprises in the election was the win by Anthony Brackett!
That was a pretty bit feat for a relative newcommer! He should make a great
addition to the School Committee board! Kerry Adams was expected to win his seat
and his 708 votes was pretty spectacular! He was the top vote getter! Obviously,
he was an easy choice and has served the town very well. He's also a smart and
personable fellow who seems to be well liked in town. Congratulations to all the
winners!
4:07 pm edt 

Congrats on Avoiding the Single Biggest Financial Problem We Face

My hearty congratulations to every candidate for selectman, you ALL avoided any
substantive discussion of the many million dollar shortfall in public pension
funding that we will face in the next decade. Not one of you discussed the
absurd assumptions used in the Barnstable pension system calculations. None of
you proposed a way to avoid the massive tax increases that will be needed to
fund this shortfall, increases that will leave property owners wishing for the
minor overrides of the past few years.

Worst of all the voters are complicit in ignoring this inevitable crisis. I
guess most of the fast aging Boomers are hoping they die or sell to someone else
before this huge bill comes due. So, in summary, while you all had a grand time
on beating the crap out of each other and trying to look more "townie" than your
competitors we march ever closer tho the day of reckoning when we either
abrogate our promise to current and past town workers (ain't gonna happen) or
face massive tax increases that will push aside all other spending.

Thanks.
4:04 pm edt 

Re: Tom Donegan

I have lived in this town for many years- I am so TIRED
of the town hall games that take place. The "elite" circle that gets what they
want and bypass the "hell" all the rest of us must endure to do business etc. 
Again- I am so TIRED of this BS as is a good amount of Provincetown.I do not
have to name the "elite" circle - Most of us know who they are. Tom Donegan will
not put up with this. That is the simple reason I voted for him as did many
others. Good Luck Tom.
4:02 pm edt 

It is Quite Right!!

If you live on or near Bradford St you know the importance of these patrols. The
officers are doing their jobs and responding to the complaints of the residents
here. People(most of them local) are always speeding and blowing stop signs on
this street.
4:00 pm edt 

Re: Something's Not Quite Right Here

"We don't need the police stopping car after car. For what? Going
thirty one miles an hour on Bradford? I have never seen so many cars and people
stopped."



More of the police state claims from the           and          ?  You need to
get a life.
3:14 pm edt 

Re: Something's Not Quite Right Here

Re: "Something's not quite right here. this also comes at a time when
there are not that many people here in town. It is quiet and not crazy with
tourists. Keep this up and you will see the number of tourists diminish and
diminish. It's inevitable."



Oh, yeah, absolutely. Everyone knows tourists don't come to towns with a police
force that enforces traffic laws. I mean, that's why tourists come here, right?
Because it's one big lawless free-for-all? They don't come for the beaches, the
shops, the nightlife, the restaurants, the art. They come because they know they
can drive like it's the Indy 500 and not be harassed by those awful police that
are so nosy and tiresome. Right?

Man, sometimes I swear this blog is written by patients from an insane asylum.
3:02 pm edt 

Sunday, May 12, 2013

Something's Not Quite Right Here

Be Careful. I Saw Two cars Stopped in ten minutes on Bradford Street
today

I saw a couple in a small black car pulled over and the police calling in for
more reserves to come handle this "problem." then I saw another of our police
pull over another car edging up Bradford. There is something quite wrong and/or
misplaced here.

We don't need the police stopping car after car. For what? Going thirty one
miles an hour on Bradford? I have never seen so many cars and people stopped.

Something's not quite right here. this also comes at a time when there are not
that many people here in town. It is quiet and not crazy with tourists. Keep
this up and you will see the number of tourists diminish and diminish. It's
inevitable.

Why do this?
7:32 pm edt 

Game? There Was No Game with Raphael Richter

There are games being played out at town hall but I see and saw no games with
him. He is new, has great ideas and energy. He did well for his first time
running and I am so happy he decided to run. I could not be happier.
7:27 pm edt 

Re: Ann Maguire

Re: ".  .  .that Ann MaQuire substitute.  .  ."


Take a look at the last election.  Take a real close look.  Can you tell me the
one person in Provincetown who received more votes than anyone else?

Yes, it was Ann Maguire.

7:25 pm edt 

Re: This Town Has Been Foolish with Spending

I would agree 100%.  Back in the early 2000s the town foolishly did not maintain
their streets and buildings.  They foolishly underspent on maintenance.  Now
because of their shortsightedness we have to pay up.  You want to assign blame? 
Look at the Selectmen's minutes from the late 90s / early 2000s to see who the
Selectmen were at that time.  That's who gets the blame for where we are today.
7:15 pm edt 

Glad There is Some Change on BOS

I would like even more but I'll be patient and wait till next year. Then I'll
see Elaine Anderson         gone and that Ann MaQuire substitute Machensnee also gone. He is
nothing, a man without a voice, and a poor member of this group.
2:31 pm edt 

Re: No, Raphael Richter Was Not Rejected

Actually, he was. By me and many other "townies" who are able to see through the
game and care about this town and it's future, not just the interests of a
select few.
2:28 pm edt 

This Town Has Been foolish with Spending

Any big time item, spend, spend, spend. and just too many people vote for
overrides and increases in what we spend. the town has been foolish and unless
people wake up, we will bankrupt this town soon.
2:27 pm edt 

Re: Raphael Richter

Re:"Raphael Richter
He is a strong candidate and I look to see his victory next year. .  ."



So is he using the Finance Committee for a year?  Just what we need, more
political games from the FinCom.
2:25 pm edt 

Re: Tom Donegan

Re: "I voted for him as did many provincetown residents( I  believe
approx 700) because he is NOT" status quo".He and Eric will bring discussions
and ideas to another level.  .  ."


I've heard a number of people say Mr. Donegan is a great campaigner and I would
agree.  He got Erik elected when he was less than qualified and he convinced the
majority of people to vote for him despite questions about his integrity and a
spotty record as FinCom chair.

Will he and Erik bring discussions to another level?  They actually may do it,
but will that be to a higher or lower level?  I wish Mr. Donegan success as a
Selectman, but I'm leery of his motives.  I hope I'm proven wrong.
2:20 pm edt 

Saturday, May 11, 2013

No, Raphael Richter Was Not Rejected

He garnered many votes and if Grassey had not run, the townie vote would have
been perhaps 800 or more for Raphael. He is a strong candidate and I look to see
his victory next year. He will be our one townie with a brain, intellect, and
motivation. He is concerned with this community and I so proud that he ran and
ran so well.
5:00 pm edt 

Town Management

This last election "PUT THE CURRENT TOWN MANAGEMENT ON NOTICE".
10:07 am edt 

Tom Donegan is a Man of Reason

I voted for him as did many provincetown residents( I  believe approx 700) because
he is NOT" status quo".He and Eric will bring discussions and ideas to another level.
The "status quo "members of the board will have to at least listen to these ideas and
hopefully have an open mind. Many Provincetown people have spoken(again approx. 700).

These people voted for Donegan for a reason. They are TIRED of business as
usual. It would be a mistake for the "status quo" members NOT to pay attention
to these new ideas and vote to implement some . Remember- the next selectman
selection is in less than a year.

The board of selectmen needs to evolve or the "status quo" selectmen will go in the
direction the last presidential election went for the Republicans.  Just my thoughts
and feelings -after speaking to many friends and town residents. Remember-youth
is on the side of change. The only thing for sure will take place in the future IS CHANGE. !
 
I am proud to have voted for Tom Donegan.
10:06 am edt 

Misspelling Tom Donegan's name

You are misspelling Tom Donegan's name on your congratulatory
statements.

Webmaster Comment: Thank you.
10:02 am edt 

Re "Beneath Contempt"

I apologize for not being clear. What I meant to say is that many posters on
this blog treat renters as if they are beneath contempt, going so far as to
suggest that only property owners should have the right and making classiest
comments about those in affordable housing. I am certainly NOT one of the elite
and I hate those people who try to create 'in' and 'out' groups of any kind.
9:57 am edt 

To: Tom Donegan

Re: "I did not vote for you so that you would agree with Austin, Elaine
and David.  .  ."


Many will be watching to see if he has his own brain or will he and Erik share a
brain on every issue.
9:51 am edt 

Friday, May 10, 2013

Re: The Town and It's Administration Are Greedy

No the administration is not greedy. At the first sight of increased
revenues when meals tax and rooms tax and permit fees and licensing fees and
every other thing they could do to increase property tax was done, they gave
themselves the biggest raises the town has seen in years. This because pay was
sooooooooooooo low compared to other cape towns. Bulldoody! No not greedy, maybe
underhanded and dishonest, not greedy.
9:38 pm edt 

Raphael Richter

Tom Donegan

"Congrats to Raphael Richter on his appointment to FInCom. Good luck! And thanks for staying involved."
Raphael Richter
Dear Supporters,
Today I joined the Finance Committee and I look forward to serving Provincetown
9:31 pm edt 

To: Tom Donegan

I did not vote for you so that you would agree with
Austin, Elaine and David on everything(the gang of three). Say no to the town
manager and police chief because they won't.
2:38 pm edt 

Re: Raphael Richter

". . .but she's taken another step to  destroying the integrity of
finance committee.  .  ."


Unfortunately I think that was already done by her and the committee.  Town
meeting voters spoke by disagreeing with every position taken by the committee. 
I'd hoped the town moderator would have learned a lesson from town meeting that
voters aren't buying the games she and the FinCom are playing.  I now realize it
was too much to hope for.

Guess we'll see what happens when FinCom meets this Monday.
2:34 pm edt 

Re: The Town and It's Administration Are Greedy

"It's not the town or officials who are greedy, it's the residents who
have champagne tastes and a beer budget. You say no increases to taxes, you're
all over-taxed (except for those non-property owners who are beneath contempt."


What the hell is that supposed to mean? Non property owners are "beneath
contempt?" Are you kidding me? Obviously you have some sort of personal axe to
grind, but good luck finding a town anywhere in the United States populated
solely by property owners and no renters. Oh, and news flash: we have the same
rights as you. Welcome to the real world, Mr. Bitter and congratulations on
being a property owner. You must be SO proud.
2:30 pm edt 

To: Tom Donegan

Welcome to the BOS. I wish you the best, and hope that you will try to maintain
a positive attitude and work with the group. A board should speak with one
voice, and I hope that, win or lose on an issue, you will support the Board.
I look forward to your intelligent, thoughtful and cordial service.
7:16 am edt 

Re: The Town and It's Administration Are Greedy

It's not the town or officials who are greedy, it's the residents who have
champagne tastes and a beer budget. You say no increases to taxes, you're all
over-taxed (except for those non-property owners who are beneath contempt. At
the same time, you want everything to be perfect.

You complain that the streets need to be paved, the sidewalks straightened, the
infrastructure and buildings upgraded, the town kept safe enough to leave doors
unlocked, the streets plowed immediately after a snow begins, the trash emptied
immediately...

The list of wants and demands goes on and on, yet you don't want to pay.
Yes, licenses were increased this year, to reflect the increase in business that
most commercial establishments have experienced as a result of having such a
beautiful, well-maintained town.

(I say 'most' because I can hear you regular posters complaining about how hard
you have it.). Well, welcome to the real world where the average person
struggles to make ends meet. If you run your business intelligently and
efficiently there's no reason that you shouldn't be financially secure.
7:14 am edt 

Licensing Board

Nice job throwing town staff under the bus.  But they aren't the ones who
doubled the licensing fees, are they?
7:11 am edt 

If the Banner is in Bankruptcy

What does this mean? Are they weeks away from folding or do they pretend to be a
newspaper with little staff and little real news reporting. does anyone know?
7:08 am edt 

Misuse of UU List Improper

This is wrong and should not have been done. It is more than improper and uses
the church to back political candidates. Someone's conscience should be
bothered.
7:07 am edt 

Voters Have Spoken

Well, We all rejected Mr. Richter. He was a one issue-no-new-police station
candidate. He would not have stuck it out once that issue was resolved.
7:05 am edt 

Election Results

The numbers speak volumes about the future of this good.this town, don't they?

Whenever there is a changing of the guard, such as we saw Tuesday night, there
is hope on the horizon for improvement.

Change is good.  Some people would be wise to start thinking about Plan B.
7:02 am edt 

Raphael Richter

".  .  Raphael , great work you lost by only 106 votes!  I hope to see
you run next year."



Mary Jo appointed him to FinCom before the night was even over.  So he can play
political games for a year before he runs for Selectman next year.  She may be
able to get elected, but she's taken another step to  destroying the integrity
of finance committee.
6:57 am edt 

Re: Is it Too Much to Hope For?

Sorry to say that Candie ain't going anywhere. She said she'd step
down IF Donegan AND Richter won. And that didn't happen. "No soup for you!"
6:53 am edt 

Thursday, May 9, 2013

Raphael Did a Great Job

He ran a good campaign and won many votes. I look to see him run next year and I
think he will be elected then. Bravo for jumping into the race. A job well done!
7:45 am edt 

Wednesday, May 8, 2013

Deep Breath

I think its time for everyone to take a deep breath and focus on the really good
things about this town. It seems to me that the town is full of very passionate
people who truly care and get involved. Lots of love, lots of volunteering.
Negativity spreads fast but good vibes spread fast too. Maybe we all could work
toward respecting different opinions and work together to solve the challenges
that Provincetown faces. Let it begin with us!
2:11 pm edt 

Is it Too Much to Hope For?

Ding dong the witch is dead! And hopefully she'll be resigning from
all town committees as she promised. 

Yeah!
12:02 pm edt 

Elaine Anderson

It is truly despicable that Elaine was so desperate to have Austin Knight win that
she abused the UU membershipand without authority sent out a political message
to the UU email list. She has proven that she is untrustworthy.

Does this mean that she will continue to side with Austin and block progress on
the BOS?

This should come to the public attention and I hope the UU administration will
come clean and protect it's tax exempt status.
12:01 pm edt 

Now, Now Candie

You said if Donegan were elected you'd quit all the town committee's you're a
member of.  Well, Tom got 700 votes, leading even Austin Knight in the vote
tally.  So Candies, its put up or shut time ! 

So much for integrity LOL
11:55 am edt 

Election

Clarence, it appears your revolution with Mary Jo, Duane et al failed miserably.
It was funny seeing your candidate from last year dancing in the hallway prior
to the Clerk announcing the winners and when the final tally came thru i thought
he was going to cry! Politics in Provincetown can surprise you!
11:51 am edt 

Congratuations to Tom and Raphael

Tom welcome to the BOS !  Raphael , great work you lost by only
106 votes!  I hope to see you run next year.
10:55 am edt 

Provincetown Administration

This town and it's management staff are greedy...
The permit fees are the highest on the cape for building,
Business etc. they are sucking the life out of the  the citizens.
They mow down more of our surrounding to build cheap condos.
This town is doomed if things don't change fast.

Wake up ptown!
10:54 am edt 

Raphael Richter

I hear R. Richter is about to be appointed to Fin Com.
10:49 am edt 

So Tom Got Elected

Will he change his method of operation and
actually show some integrity ?
10:47 am edt 

Re: There is a Natural Beauty to this Town

There is an unnatural ugliness with many of it's residents.  I've never lived in
a place where people assume the worst about their elected officials, their town
staff and their fellow neighbors and so many people look at their glass as half
empty.
10:45 am edt 

Re: This Town is Not Near as Special as it Thinks it is

This town has so many problems that will never be solved.  It has relied on
hand-outs from the federal/state government for years.  As that money slowly
dries up the town's problems will only magnify and it is not equipped to address
them.

The elections today will not change anything.  Raphael and Tom promised lots of
possibilities, but never talked about from where the money was going to come. 
You already know what you're getting with John and Austin.

Funny that the 2nd homeowners are what saves us.  As the hand-outs from the
government dry up we can keep raising taxes on the 2nd homeowners.
10:43 am edt 

SelectmanTom Donegan

Tom Donegan
8:16am May 8
I have never before run for public office, but because because I was surrounded by men and women who love Provincetown and were willing to step up, get involved and work hard. I am happy to report it was a wonderful experience. In fact this campaign was a blast. Thank you.

I also want to thank John Santos for his long service to Provincetown. When I took out papers to run against him, he invited me to lunch. As a public official, as business owner and as a long time volunteer firefighter, Grassy has demonstrated he cares deeply for Provincetown and is willing to do his part year in and year out.

Raphael Richter ran an enthusiastic, optimistic and positive campaign that reflected his love for and his commitment to our community. Provincetown is fortunate he is taking a seat on the Finance Committee and I look forward to working with him. Over the course of the campaign he has become a friend and for that I am very fortunate. Perhaps the biggest winner last night was Provincetown whose voters again made clear they demand positive issue based campaigns.

I am eager to get to work. This morning I will become one of five selectmen. I will work to find common ground with each. Now it's time to honor our heritage and work to keep Provincetown a place we can be proud to call home.
10:38 am edt 

Tuesday, May 7, 2013

Re: This Town is Not Near as Special as it Thinks it is

"It appears you think business is the enemy.  .  ."


Probably is one of the reasons why so many businesses close for the winter, they
have to get away from here.
7:27 pm edt 

Re: This Town is Not Near as Special as it Thinks it is

"Speaking of business ventures, you couldn't pay me to start as
business again in this town.  You over-regulate businesses and then go after
anyone who is successful."



Interesting point of view.  Business owners become targets, some deserve it, but
the great majority are just hard working folks trying to make ends meet.  The
town needs to let them run their business and hire employees.  Did you know
licensing fees doubled this year?  Licensing fees set by the licensing board,
none of whom own a business.
7:23 pm edt 

Re: This Town is Not Near as Special as it Thinks it is

How about we replace 'Like nowhere else' with 'not as special as they
think'?

LOL
7:20 pm edt 

This Town is Not Near as Special as it Thinks it is

I'd have to agree, there are some nasty people in this town.  That's in no way a
political statement, it's the proportion of nasty people in this town outweighs
the good.  Some are angry because Provincetown is not what it use to be, some
are angry because they can't find a job or housing.  Here's a clue - move out of
here, it's what I'm going to do when my business venture is done.

Speaking of business ventures, you couldn't pay me to start a business again in
this town.  You over-regulate businesses and then go after anyone who is
successful.  It appears you think business is the enemy.
3:05 pm edt 

Re: Diggings on the Dunes?

"Does anybody know why the Town and police were digging up the grave of
the land who was found on the dunes?"


What are you trying to say?  Good grief, again, please either read your
statement before you hit enter or have someone do it for you.  It makes no sense
to type a statement that makes no sense.  You only give a headache to those who
try to decipher what you are trying to say.
1:02 pm edt 

Re: Oh Elaine

"One misstep after another....a glorified spell check for the meeting
minutes...the Vernon fiasco.....CPC funds for the UU church mural....the people
of this town deserve a more competent board."


What the      is wrong with you people?  You voted for the CPC money.  Trying to
blame it on others when you voted in favor of it.  What a group of losers.

This town is not near as special as it thinks it is.
12:47 pm edt 

It's Spring! the Once Sad Trees Are in Bloom

Provincetown looks so beautiful. The swamp maples are filled with green leaves,
the black cherry trees turn reddish along each branch, and the Japanese maples
reveal the smallest edge of red. It's just lovely in Provincetown.

Spring wishes to all!
12:22 pm edt 

Yes, It's Time to Vote

Today is the day. Let's get out the vote. We have two great candidates in Tom
Donnegan and Raphael Richter. Let's get them elected today!
12:19 pm edt 

Diggings on the Dunes?

Does anybody know why the Town and police were digging up the grave of
the land who was found on the dunes ?
12:15 pm edt 

Oh Elaine

One misstep after another....a glorified spell check for the meeting
minutes...the Vernon fiasco.....CPC funds for the UU church mural....the people
of this town deserve a more competent board.

Elaine's term is up next year......NEXT!
12:11 pm edt 

Tom Donegan BOS Candidate
The time to vote is now, plenty of parking!
 10:26am May 7
10:31 am edt 

Monday, May 6, 2013

Re: Finance Director

How does one determine financial gain for a town employee that posts
on a social media site? Could he or she gain if they were part of discussion
concerning budget items? What if the conversation was about benefits, should a
town employee or partner of a town employee be part of any of those discussions?
Should the partner of someone associated with the police department be part of
any discussions on social media concerning that department?
No.
4:30 pm edt 

Re: Finance Director

"Would be wise for him to ZIP iT."


I don't him very well, but I get the feeling he won't be following a threat from
an anonymous blog.
4:22 pm edt 

Again, We Did Not Vote to Change the Position of Harbormaster....

...and make it a police position. We did not do this at town meeting and I do not
see how they can just change the position from marine work to police work
without returning to town meeting. also, how can they have two positions of two
people as harbormaster when we did not vote for this. Where is the money coming
from? I say either fire one person or do not hire a new person. there was no
vote for these two positions which is really one position.
4:21 pm edt 

Raphael Richter Board of Selectmen Candidate

I listened to Mr Richter's thoughts at the Board Meeting the other day
and find his approach and demeanor refreshing and with knowledge of
Provincetown's issues at hand.A little shakeup in the powers to be would do this
town some good.
4:18 pm edt 

Re: If the Finance Director Started and Continues a Blog.

There are so many inaccuracies in your post I wouldn't even know where to begin.  
But I think if the Finance Director wanted to start a blog ( he hasn't ) he
would have as much right to do so as would, say a member of the Finance
Committee.  As long as there is no financial gain related to his position.
4:15 pm edt 

Re: Land Across From Victor's Restaurant on Bradford

"Someone called it cluster housing. Can't wait!"

Can only hope they are pre-fab units.  Those are so nice.  Cluster is right.
4:12 pm edt 

Re: If the FInance Director Started a Blog...

He doesn't have a blog.
His partner wasn't head of Tourism.  You're thinking of Bob Sanborn, the former
director, who runs a guesthouse in the west end.
Dan and his partner have a guest house near the center of town.  Different
people.
Remember, facts are your friend.
4:11 pm edt 

Re: Land Across From Victor's Restaurant on Bradford

"Anyone know what's going on there ?"


Everyone knows except for you.
1:53 pm edt 

Re: Land Across From Victor's Restaurant on Bradford

Land across from Victor's is two housing developments. I heard between
9 and 27 units. Someone called it cluster housing. Can't wait!
1:49 pm edt 

If the Finance Director Started and Continues a Blog

I find a problem with that. And wasn't his partner the director of Tourism who
was not during the winter? He is finance director and should not be creating a
blog for his interests and for his partner's past interest as director of
tourism. There is a conflict of interest here and his position too often against
the finance committee raises too many ethical questions.

He is a public employee and his behavior should not raise questions about even
the possibility of conflict of interest. But his creating and continuing this
blog does.
1:33 pm edt 

Land Across From Victor's Restaurant on Bradford -

Anyone know what's going on there ?
10:43 am edt 

Re: We Did Not Vote to Have the Police as Harbormaster

I'll repeat it.  "The majority at town meeting voted to continue the
policepresence on the pier."


Guess I need to repeat it again.  I only said the town voted to continue the
police presence on the pier.  Didn't say anything about harbormaster position, I
don't have an opinion one way or another.
9:26 am edt 

Re: What's Going On Here? Something Smells Funny

Re: UU meeting house

I looked closely at that e-mail.  It appears the writer has a group in her
personal e-mail titled 'UUMtgfolk'.  She sent a personal e-mail to a personal
group in her E-mail list.  Nothing wrong with what she did, it was not from the
non-profit organization.

Re: Finance Director posting

I haven't seen any 'veiled postings' on Facebook, but as long as he is not
posting as a representative of the town I don't think he loses his rights as a
private citizen.  It's no secret who he supports, he has a sign in his front
yard, no secret there.  I think his last posting was about affordable housing
and year-round jobs.  I applaud everyone who has posted their thoughts on the
subject,  those are two of the biggest issues we face.

Manufacturing issues where none exists.  We have enough problems and issues on
our plate, let's focus on the real ones.
9:24 am edt 

Finance Director

Would be wise for him to ZIP IT.  He is a town employee who is almost out of
control with his degree of narcissism.
9:22 am edt 

To: Rick Murray

Re: PBG

To Rick  Your generosity has been noted and appreciated.  Erin SHOULD
HAVE MADE THAT CLEAR  The banner across the page of any one business without
clarification of the PBG should have information as to why it is there.
9:18 am edt 

Raphael Richter BOS Candidate
I am honored to have received the following endorsement from Irene Rabinowitz -
"Raphael Richter - Thanks for reminding folks about Tuesday. I will be voting on Tuesday for you and for my pal Tom Donegan. Watching you create Shakespeare on the Cape and work as hard as you do at your business, and knowing your values and kindness, has led me to believe that you will also be a wonderful addition to local government."

Thank you so much Irene!
9:10 am edt 

Sunday, May 5, 2013

We Did Not vote to Have the Police as Harbormaster

This was not on the agenda. This is what the police are now doing with support
from Town Manager and some BOS. but we never voted for this position. We already
have a Harbormaster. If you get rid of the present one, then you look to replace
him with a competent marine-experienced person.

Sorry but having a gun and being able to shoot it, does not a Harbormaster make.
10:31 pm edt 

Swaying Public Opinion

Maybe I am getting too annoyed with town hall administration trying to
sway public opinion instead of just doing their jobs. The jobs we pay them to
do. If the town's finance director posts one more veiled comment on CN fb page
he should be put on notice. What is it about keeping Austin Knight in office
that is so important to everyone in town hall?
10:29 pm edt 

A Reversal of Rolls

I find it funny that the town manager and police chief seem to have
taken it upon themselves to decide that we have to have a certain police station
at a cetain site. Also that we must control the pier with the police department.
No matter how many times they are pushed back at meetings on the police station
or how blatant they are in falsely accusing the harbormaster of wrong doing,
they keep coming back to the table with the same crap. Understand this, you work
for the town. If we continue to tell you that it's a bad idea stop pushing it
down our throats.
10:25 pm edt 

What's Going On Here? Something Smells Funny

This is a tax-exempt church right? and someone involved in the church is using a UU meeting house email blast list for political campaigning?

I am not a UU member but i did receive this.


something smells funny here.




---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Elaine <ejande@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, May 4, 2013 at 4:33 PM
Subject: Fwd: [Uumhfolk] Sharing
To: monadee@yahoo.com, dr.cheryl.andrews@gmail.com, chriswexford@msn.com, barrydan29@msn.com, ettab13@hotmail.com, cassbenson@comcast.net, jbragger@psu.edu, cathy.reno@hrc.org, josephcarleo@gmail.com, eastonsix@gmail.com, tomcoen@verizon.net, smartcook@verizon.net, croned@hotmail.com, notification+prcloozf@facebookmail.com, patsy.greene@earthlink.net, david_hale@earthlink.net


I believe that the current board of selectmen have work to finish. Please give them that chance.
Support Austin Knight and John Santos. Thank you. Elaine
----------Original Message----------

From: Elaine
Date: May 4, 2013 3:36:24 PM
Subject: [Uumhfolk] Sharing
To: uumhfolk@uumh.org

Election day is coming up on Tuesday, May 7 here in Provincetown, and I am supporting Austin Knight and John Santos. I hope that you will too. Thanks. Elaine

10:17 pm edt 

Tom Donegan/Raphael Richter BOS Candidates
By Cheryl L Andrews This Tuesday , May 7th , I...
Tom Donegan9:13pm May 5
By Cheryl L Andrews
This Tuesday , May 7th , I will cast my votes for Raphael Richter & Tom Donegan for seats on the Provincetown Board of Selectmen. I have watched how they have conducted their campaigns. I have listened to their ideas and to their hopes & dreams. We are very lucky that these two gentlemen are willing to serve at such a difficult time for Provincetown, both economically & politically. I offer you both best wishes. Always think of Provincetown first. Help us stay diversified, healthy, strong, honest and kind. Good Luck
This Tuesday , May 7th , I will cast my votes for Raphael Richter & Tom Donegan for seats on the Pro...
10:08 pm edt 

The Day after Tomorrow - What a Difference a Day Makes

Anyone else notice what a low profile our constabulary has taken
recently?

Wonder if it has anything to do with Tuesday.
5:43 pm edt 

Re: Facing the Hard Reality

"Many have said no police on the pier. Get out of your cars, walk
commercial street like the police used to and stop the hard sell."


You make a good point.  Many, but not most, have said no police on the pier. 
Town voters disagreed with the minority of those who wanted to take the police
off the pier.

I'll repeat it.  The majority at town meeting voted to continue the police
presence on the pier.
5:05 pm edt 

Facing the Hard Reality

I, not wanting the fb crazy ladies decending on me with their wrath,
have to also say that the police chief's community meetings are not for me.

At town meeting, at bos meetings, at building committee meetings, on this page , on
fb we have said don't build the police station you are trying to sell to us.

Many have said no police on the pier. Get out of your cars, walk commercial
street like the police used to and stop the hard sell.
3:00 pm edt 

Tantrum

Candies temper tantrum is too funny.  It's as if a house has landed on her like
in the famous OZ movie and CR is the good one !   Ah das
schadenfreude !
6:31 am edt 

Re: PBG

To the person who posted regarding the PBG promoting the Crown & Anchor let me
set the record straight. I have been a member of the PBG since I started my
business in town and have been an active supporter. Unfortunately TOWN HALL was
booked and the PBG had no space to stage and produce their large fundraiser for
May 18th. The ED called me and asked if i would be able to DONATE Paramount to
produce 2 shows on 5/18. I said YES because the PBG needed a space, period. THey
asked and i said YES. 100% of ticket sales are the property of the PBG and used
for their event!

Rick Murray
GM
Crown & Anchor.
6:29 am edt 

Saturday, May 4, 2013

Better Sooner Then Later

"CN states on her Facebook Ptown political page that if TD is elected
to the BOS she intends to resign from all the town boards she's serving on."



Don't stress yourself.  Do all of us a favor and quit  now!
8:21 pm edt 

Raphael Richter is Smart and Has Experience

He is a business person. He served on the Licensing Board. and he would still be
on the Licensing Board if the Couture had not stopped him from being a permanent
member of the board. Couture refused to have Raphael Richter be a full time
member of Licensing since she believed he would not vote as she wanted the vote.
That was when there was a proposal for bars and entertainment to go on till 2 in
the morning. The Frog was living across from Saki and she hated any noise. She
voted against Raphael Richter when he was an alternate on Licensing and you can
blame this woman for why he is not on this board today. So don't ever say he
lacks experience on boards. He did serve and wanted to serve but this woman
prohibited his appointment.
8:16 pm edt 

Oh My Goodness!

This is enough of a reason to vote for tom donnegan even if I didn't want to
vote for him. If Candace nagle will resign from all boards or dog shows she is
part of if he is elected, it's a major reason to vote for him.

Go and go again Girl! Keep on going!
8:12 pm edt 

Decisions...Decisions

"CN states on her Facebook Ptown political page that if TD is elected to the BOS
she intends to resign from all the town boards she's serving on."


Hmmm.....let's see....Candy or Tom...Candy or Tom... She just made up my mind!

Decisions
8:09 pm edt 

Who Could Ask For Anything More?

CN states on her Facebook Ptown political page that if TD is elected
to the BOS she intends to resign from all the town boards she's serving on.

More incentive to vote for Tom and Raphael. As if we needed it.
8:06 pm edt 

Where Are You?

No Nonsense News

Where is No Nonsense News gone? Please one more before the election!

A fan
1:41 pm edt 

PBG

I noticed that the PBG is using the top banner of their facebook page
to promote events at the Crown and Anchor  This is  not what the PBG should be
doing  They are made up of hundreds of businesses in town  Shame on the
director, Erin Atwood


1:37 pm edt 

Who Needs Enemies

CN is single handedly  thwarting her candidate's chances with her
rants.  With friends like her who needs enemies?
1:36 pm edt 

Re: Town System of Government

"I was a Town Supersvisor voted in by the community by giving the
community the respect they deserve and having an open door policy to rhe
community and with the Board never ever raising taxes by overrides."


What the heck are you saying?
10:16 am edt 

Tom Donegan/Raphael Richter BOS Candidates

I hope you will also take a serious look at
Raphael Richter - As I like to say, he and I come from different places, but we often end-up in the same place. He's a smart hardworking guy who will work for change. I am voting for him, you should too. Here is what Peter Petas has to say about us:

Tom Donegan has the best grasp of municipal finance of any of the candidates in my view or of any of the current selectmen. Given the serious fiscal challenges we face as a town, I would feel like we were in very good hands with Tom as a selectman. I also believe his consensus building style as chairman of the Finance Committee is the right approach for Provincetown and a sign of strength. We've seen all too often what happens when there is no consensus and it isn't pretty. Tom has a sensible and pragmatic approach to government and I think he'd make a fine selectman. (On a more personal note, the relentless campaign of negativity that has been waged against him has angered me and I barely know the guy.....The fact that he's stayed above it speaks well of his character.)
Raphael Richter was a big surprise to me. I was prepared to write him off as too young and too inexperienced (and too thin!), although I'd always heard he was a smart guy. Maria Marelli convinced me that he was a serious guy as well and I should hear him out. I had a chance to sit down with him and chat about issues facing the town and I was really impressed. He's willing to think outside the box and to do so intelligently and without any predetermined outcome. But what really struck me was how rooted in town history his views are. He has definitely been paying attention to what has worked and what hasn't worked over the years. I think he'd be a positive force on the BOS.
(Find Peter's complete write up of the candidates here:
9:50 am edt 

Grandiose Threats

CN states on her Facebook Ptown political page that if TD is elected to the BOS
she intends to resign from all the town boards she's serving on.
9:44 am edt 

To: Webmaster

I doubt this will be posted but. . .

If an transparent open government, inclusive of all residents and opinions is
important to you why do you censor postings with which you do not agree?  What
are you afraid of, that people may see two sides to a story and two opposing
opinions?
9:43 am edt 

Re: Town System of Government

"Voting for Town Manager means having a mayor, duh. Want to switch to a mayoral
system, propose a charter change and get it passed. I propose                       as
our first mayor."


I was a Town Supersvisor voted in by the community by giving the community the
respect they deserve and having an open door policy to rhe community and with
the Board never ever raising taxes by overrides.
9:41 am edt 

Re: Town System of Government

"From the moment cop Sharon transformed into Town Manager
and was placed in office by her good friend Ann Mcguire"



Don't know the status of the relationship but if it is true, this is why we need
to vote For a town mgr

Just Saying...
9:38 am edt 

Re: Town System of Government

"Webmaster Comment: Provincetown does not meet the minimum
population requirement as defind in Massachusetts General Law
for a mayoral form of government."



So if we don't have the population, can the law be changed ?

Do we we term limits?

We need a change.


The times they are a changing,
9:36 am edt 

Friday, May 3, 2013

Tom Donegan Board of Selectmen Candidate

WOW ~ What a week!!
I was so happy to earn the Banner's endorsement, and as a result I have had the opportunity to talk with a variety of people who have taken the time to reach out to me and say "hello."

The enthusiasm has been very encouraging. But nothing really matters until you cast your ballot - with four candidates competing, this election will be be very close, so please vote - every vote really does count.

Here are the details on casting your ballot:

Vote Monday before noon - takes 10 minutes or less!
Vote at Town Hall using an "in person absentee" ballot. Stop in at the Town Clerks' Office Monday morning. It's EZ and fast!

Of course the polls are open on Tuesday.
Annual Town Election May 7, 2013
Polls Open: 7:00 am - 7:00 pm
Polling Location: Judge Welsh Room, Town Hall

10:17 pm edt 

Let's Hope the Town Votes For the Good

Let's hope the town votes in the bet interest of itself. this does not always
happen. but maybe, this time, this time it may happen. Open your yes and see
what the future can be.
10:16 pm edt 

Town System of Government

We can educate the ignorant, but        is        .

Mass. General Laws:
  Cities have a mayor and city council
  Towns have a town manager and board of selectmen

                                                                            
10:13 pm edt 

Town System of Government

A mayor is a great idea! Things would actually get done around here.
Less talk (ahem, town meeting) and more action!


Webmaster Comment: Provincetown does not meet the minimum
population requirement as defind in Massachusetts General Law
for a mayoral form of government.
10:10 pm edt 

Banner

I thought that the Banner ALSO endorsed Austin Knight!! Why is this blog so one
sided and un-truthful?
10:03 pm edt 

Tom Donegan BOS Candidate


TomDonegan.jpgVote Friday before noon- 10 minutes or less! Vote at Town Hall before noon using an "in person absentee" ballot. Stop in at the Town Clerks' Office. It's EZ!

10:36 am edt 

Re: Voting for Town Manager

Voting for Town Manager means having a mayor, duh. Want to switch to a mayoral
system, propose a charter change and get it passed. I propose              as
our first mayor.
8:45 am edt 

Police

Can we just give them a donut?
8:43 am edt 

Thursday, May 2, 2013

Wouldn't an Elected Town Manager be a Mayor?

Not sure, but lets get out the vote!
11:07 pm edt 

Re: Give Respect - Get Respect

Respect ... From the moment cop Sharon transformed into Town Manager
and was placed in office by her good friend Ann Mcguire we the taxpaying
citizen's were stripped of any and all respect.
How many overrides since she arrived? All her special projects jamed
down our throats with no respect for the citizens.
Today's over armed police certainly haven't gotten any lessons in customer
service or even simple manners...much to involved in their cell phones.
The only hope I see is if new Blood on the BOS can make a difference.
My votes go to Raffie and Tom...and don't forget to vote for
Anne Packard for the library board.
11:01 pm edt 

Re: Anti Police Rhetoric

"There is constant much anti police rhetoric on this blog and most of
it seems to have a very similar tone and writing style, so it's hard to believe
that it's being written by more than one individual. I'm wondering if that
individual is currently running for office. It would explain volumes"

Gee, with all your knowledge and skill you should be working for the
Provincetown Police Department !  lol  ooops, YOU ALREADY DO !
2:49 pm edt 

Re: Town Manager Selection Process

Wouldn't an elected town manager be a mayor?
12:38 pm edt 

Town Meeting - Public Safety Budget

I just remembered something from town meeting that I found odd.  After
a long discussion about the Public Safety budget I found it odd that the fire
chief voted no on the budget.  Why would the fire chief vote against his own
budget?
12:35 pm edt 

Wrong Again

I hard many people concerned about the hiding of the police through this winter.
Many people seem to talk about the changes that now has occurred in this town
that were not there before. I hear many praising chief Ted Myers and how he
managed the department. He was present but engaged in town issues. He now played
the power card.
12:33 pm edt 

Down South Trailers v Provincetown

To:  "Kind of like how nobody ever sees flying saucers except people
who live in trailers down South..."


I know people that live in trailers "down
South" and you, if you live in Ptown,
have less than no right to insult them and imply they are wacky.  Ptown of late
stinks of wacky and cheap, cheap stores with overpriced crappy merchandise,
dirty beaches and streets and crappy condos allowed to be built on top of each
other is no place to be proud of.  Sorry, the quaintness has gone and cheapness
has replaced it. Ptown wreaks of forget the environment, how can we use up every
square inch, spend the least doing it and make the most cash in a short amount
of time?
12:26 pm edt 

Re: Town Manager Selection Process

"I really think this needs to look into voting for TM.
Folks this is not a new concept folks!"


I can't think of any town that votes and elects a town manager.  Can you share a
few examples?  Pretty sure there isn't a single one on the cape.



Still waiting on a few examples.
12:21 pm edt 

Banner Supports Donegan

"Good choice for the Banner to Support Tom Donnegan
Good choice. good selection."


I'm sure you just forgot to mention they endorsed Austin Knight as well.
12:18 pm edt 

Banner Supports Donegan

Good choice for the Banner to Support Tom Donnegan

Good choice. good selection.
10:32 am edt 

Are We Now Paying For Two Top Positions on the Pier?

Are we paying for two harbormasters and one of them a police officer? Why? One
harbormaster and assistant harbor masters make the most sense. Double billing
for one position? Usually you fire one person, hire another after a
comprehensive search. what happened here? Didn't this happen this week?

10:31 am edt 

Butts:

Is it really that difficult for people to use the cigarette
receptacles placed outside many entry ways of bars in town?  Walking past the
Governor Bradford frequently and seeing people just toss there butts down the
catch basin or on the newly paved street is truly disgusting, especially when
there is a receptacle a foot away.  Perhaps the GB should spell it out for
them...
10:29 am edt 

Anti Police Rhetoric

Interesting how nobody seems to notice or be concerned about the
supposed "police state" except a few manic readers of MYPACC who post over and
over about it. Kind of like how nobody ever sees flying saucers except people
who live in trailers down South...
9:23 am edt 

Anti Police Rhetoric

There is constant much anti police rhetoric on this blog and most of
it seems to have a very similar tone and writing style, so it's hard to believe
that it's being written by more than one individual. I'm wondering if that
individual is currently running for office. It would explain volumes.
8:13 am edt 

Re: Give Respect - Get Respect

A very good point, but every time I've passed an officer on a detail, he's been
on his cell phone. Disengaged.

It's hard to wave when there is no eye contact.

Just saying...
7:26 am edt 

Re: Keith Bergman

It amazed a few of us that Keith Bergman was so slick in screwing this
town up from his arrival here and it took various Boards of Selectmen and the
populace seventeen(17) years to figure it out - too late! Nothing transparent
about him and NO,NO, we don't ever want him back!!
7:24 am edt 

Re: Give Respect - Get Respect

"Ever ask yourself if the reason the Police and Town Management are
the way they are is because of the lack of respect all of you on this blog give
toward them..."


So glad that you did acknowledge, quoting YOUR words, that 'the Police and Town
Management are the way they are".

Time for some changes, so they can't be "the way they are" anymore.
7:22 am edt 

Re: Town Manager Selection Process

No not a popularity contest rather than qualified people running.
Just like they do in other towns across the US.

I really think this needs to be look into; voting for TM.

Folks this is not a new concept!

LL
7:20 am edt 

Re: Give Respect - Get Respect

Normally I would agree on the previous blogger's comment about giving
respect-get respect but not this time. You don't either know or care what the
police chief has done to allot of people, maybe that's why. He will never get
respect and his dept members will suffer.
7:19 am edt 

Respect is For Work Well Done

Not for taking actions against town residents. Respect, as the old slogan
stated, is earned and deserved. I have lost total respect for this police
department. They are the worse I have ever seen here in Provincetown. Small men
often have tall men dreams. Small men are too often threaten by different
positions and those who do not agree with them. Small women may have the same
problems.
7:17 am edt 

They Are Not Serving Us

They are intent on their own erroneous ends. The police used to be part of this
town and used to be part of us. Thank them for what? For arrogance. For illegal
actions. For Nazi tactics? They are an inverse mirror to who we are. They stand
apart and they stand against us. they should be ashamed of their actions, hardly
thanked for going against this town.
7:16 am edt 

R-E-S-P-E-C-T

Here's a thought - Respect is a two-way street, if you want to get it, you've
got to give it.

We cannot expect people to have respect for law and order until we teach respect
to those we have entrusted to enforce those laws.

                                                             
7:12 am edt 

Re: Town Manager Selection Process

"I really think this needs to look into voting for TM.
Folks this is not a new concept folks!"


I can't think of any town that votes and elects a town manager.  Can you share a
few examples?  Pretty sure there isn't a single one on the cape.
7:09 am edt 

Why Don't You Just Try Giving Some Thanks to Those Who Serve

I said hello to one yesterday and got a look like they had just bit into a poop
sandwich.
7:08 am edt 

Give Respect - Get Respect

These new cops want respect they should show us towns people respect
we are the ones who are paying there salary.
7:05 am edt 

Wednesday, May 1, 2013

Give Respect - Get Respect

Ever ask yourself if the reason the Police and Town Management are the way they
are is because of the lack of respect all of you on this blog give toward them
as well as every volunteer committee that the town has. This is a town without
pity. Why don't you just try giving some thanks to those who serve. You might be
surprised. But then you would have nothing to bitch about and you might realize
that you have done nothing for this town lately.
4:42 pm edt 

Re: Town Manager Selection Process

No not a popularity contest rather than qualified people running.
Just like they do in other towns across the US.

I really think this needs to look into voting for TM.

Folks this is not a new concept folks!

2:52 pm edt 

Glad Markey Won

Now on to the other Election

Next week I hope for change and big change. Next week, let's get out the vote.
Donegan, Richter or Santos.
1:42 pm edt 

What Dangers? What Awful Things to Follow?

It is police paranoia and town manager paranoia. There are those in this town
that are nuts with fear, anger, and the sense of their own power. But it is
power against the town and not legitimate use of authority. In many years here,
I have never seen the attitude, fear, hostility that permeates this town through
the police department and town hall. It saddens me and I wonder why this
sickness permeates so many in the police department. It surely is not about
safety but hiding in the wings waiting to pounce.

This is surely the way a town like Provincetown gets destroyed from the inside.
Wrong people chosen for these positions and terrible consequences for
Provincetown. It will take years to correct this problem.

1:41 pm edt 

Re: Town Manager Selection Process

"Does anyone know how we can move to this, instead of a select few who
get to handpick the TM."


The best way is to make sure that the Selection Committe for the Town Manager
represents the various segments of our community.

I know that Sharon was recruited by Ann Maguire. I also know that Austin was in
the Selection Committe that chose Sharon.

Who else was in the Selection Committee that chose her?
1:38 pm edt 

Re: Town Manager Selection Process

Re: "Does anyone know how we can move to this, instead of a select few
who get to handpick the TM."



So you would like the town manager hired via a popularity contest?  No qualified
town manager in their right mind would come work here if they had to run for the
position.  The town manager needs to what is right, not always that which is
most popular.
11:41 am edt 

What Metrics Would You Use Then?

Serious question.

If it's not year-round population, what is it?  Are you saying there weren't
second home owners who visited 10 years ago?



I appreciate that you are asking the serious question.   I'll be honest with you
in that I don't know the answer.  It's why a town hires a police chief, they
have experience in knowing what is needed.  Do they get an open checkbook? 
Absolutely not, but the fact that we have approximately the same number of
officers now that we had in 1999 says we are not wildly overstaffed.  I've never
worked in law enforcement, I wouldn't presume to know about staffing levels.

An outspoken 2nd homeowner has publicly stated that we need a full force only
four months of the year, during the rest of the year we are overstaffed 3 to 4
times.  We have 19 officers including the Chief, Lt. Etc.  If we have 4 times
the staff we need during 8 months of the year that would mean he believes we
should have 5 full-time year-round officers.  So that would mean we could have
two officers on the day shift, two on the night shift and one on the overnight
shift with no coverage on their two days off.  Who in their right mind other
than him thinks that is a good idea?  I'm not about to let a 2nd homeowner tell
me how much police protection we should have when his only concern is his
wallet.  If it's between this 2nd homeowner or the police chief in determining
the size of the force I'm going to have to defer to the chief.
11:08 am edt 

Re: What Happen to Our Sweet Town

"Sharon and Jeff are trying to make sure this town has the trained
staff and the tools they need in event of crisis, which can come down route 6 or
from anywhere in the world by water."



Leadership will come from the volunteer community not a police force.  We are
Americans first, not a police state.  You could have a false sense of security
if you believe POLICE AUTHORITY is the answer to everything and grey skies will
turn blue once your Sharon and Jeff are removed/replaced.

good-bye police state.
11:04 am edt 

Re: What Has Happened to the Once Sweet and Beautiful Town?

"Do you think people should not be stopped for speeding up and down our
quiet streets? Are you completely unconcerned with safety?"

Excellent point!  How do we, the citizens, report cops driving through stop
signs, and "speeding up abd down our quiet streets"?  Practically every day, I
see a police car with no lights on, do this.  Would the license plate number,
location of traffic violation, day and time be enough?

And how about the cop that ran over the guy, the one that passed away within
less than a year?
10:59 am edt 

Town Manager Selection Process

"I think that the Selectmen should hire the president of Seamen's to
review the Town Manager's performance."



I'd like to have that we vote for a TM.  This way if the TM is not doing a good
job, he/she is voted out.

In my opinion the current TM would be voted out.

Does anyone know have we can move to this, instead of a select few who get to
handpick the TM.

I pay taxes and I want to vote for a TM!

10:57 am edt 


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