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  Mark Silva: A Rich Goodby

The church was packed. There was even a long line to enter St. Peter's. There were people sitting along the side pews. All the pews were filled.

We were there to attest to your legacy, to what you gave to this town and to all of us. You brought the energy for the Portuguese Festival and revived it. You brought the energy for the Regatta and revived this wonderful celebration. You gave of yourself, of your time and of your vision.

The town was there to bid you farewell and to thank you for everything that you have done for us. And you did it with humor, joy and a sense of much celebration. You knew how to throw a party and taught the town to do it too!

You were unique and you will be missed. But you would not leave without our thanks and without a party at the Red Inn. We were there with tears and we were there with much laughter and gratefulness for you.

Adieu, Mark! May the angels carry you on holy wings into eternal peace and celebration!

 

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Monday, December 31, 2012

Happy New Year to All

Let's hope there is better management and some leadership in 2013. That would be
a wonderful change. In fact, it would be terrific.

Best to all in 2013. Peace, joy and some great times ahead.
6:16 pm est 

Re: "Happy New Year Provincetown!" - Fact Check

Someone posted:

"Thank you to our Town Manager and the Board of Selectmen for making this town so
great. Finally after decades of mismanagement, deferred infrastructure and an
overall lack of attention toward this town, we finally have a great new
library,new Town Hall, elderly housing, affordable housing, new Commerical
Street with mindful construction with regard to not poluting the harbor, a sewer
system tomake us more friendly to our environment and now for a planned and
approved new site for our aging police station."



Let's see. Fact checker time:
a. new library?  done while Keith Bergman was Town Manager
b. Seashore Point?  Keith's pet project
c. Affordable Housing? again, Keith's baby.
d. Sewer? Keith never really wanted it, but it was done while he was Town
Manager.

Is this post suppose to be a joke? Hope so.

I think our new Town Manager has done a reasonably good job despite the fact
that she listens to alot of the wrong people for advice.

But history is history. You don't make her look good by listing Keith's
accomplishments. And, even though i did not like the guy personally for many
reasons, he had even more accomplishments that i have not listed.

Its 2013. She gets credit for the Town Hall rehab and for dealing with the
school buildings....sort of.
She is off the mark with the police station, and way off in left field with this
attack on the Harbormaster.

Hold onto your hats kids. Its going to be a bumpy ride.


Happy New Year.

Slippery Clam

6:12 pm est 

Re: Happy New Year Provincetown!

Yes, thank you to the Town Manager and BOS. I'd also like to thank all
those who volunteer all Town boards, Town staff including the assistant Town
Manager! Let's never go back to the deferred maintenance mentality of the old
regime!
6:08 pm est 

Re: Police Station Petition

If I get lots of people to sign a petition stating that I want the taxpayers to
pay the oil bill of every person born in this town that it will cause the
taxpayes to do so?

No, the vote is at town meeting that is where the votes to spend money is
allocated.

Being misinformed or keeping blinders on regarding a dilapidated building
housing our police force and DPW building and asking people to sign a petition
to continue the status quo isn't going to make responsible people want to
continue this municipal malfeasance.

I've watched these hearings. We have a broad spectrum of responsible citizens
clearly stating that what we have is deplorable.

We taxpayers asked for this study to be conducted and it has been completed and
now I want to vote yes to these new buildings. I've been convinced.
6:06 pm est 

Happy New Year Provincetown!

Thank you to our Town Manager and the Board of Selectmen for making this town so
great. Finally after decades of mismanagement, deferred infrastructure and an
overall lack of attention toward this town, we finally have a great new library,
new Town Hall, elderly housing, affordable housing, new Commerical Street with
mindful construction with regard to not poluting the harbor, a sewer system to
make us more friendly to our environment and now for a planned and approved new
site for our aging police station. Friends and family this summer couldn't say
enough about all the wonderful changes to this town. And I completly agree with
them.

Keep it going, never been so proud of this town.

PS: I don't work for the town, I don't know any of the players and live here
year round for decades. I just love living here. Enjoy New Year's Eve
2:04 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Site

NEED TO EDUCATE VOTERS

First. People seem to think that if the police station is built on race point rd
that the doors will open right onto the street.

No, there will be an area in front of the building for people and cars just as
there is at the police station in Harwich.

Please count how many times a year you go to the police station. The police cars
don't race from the station like fire trucks from a firehouse. Squad cars are
out and about in the town.

Please watch the November 19th public hearing on PTV so you understand how the
building committee reached its decision that we need a new police station.

Please watch the Dec 3rd selectmen's meeting with the building committee.

Spouting lies and misinformation will only backfire on you. Read the article in
the year Year edition of the banner.
1:58 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Site

Why do people insist the Rt. 6 police sation location is so dangerous?
Have there been safety issues with the Truro station and for that matter, the
Welfleet station ot the Eastham station?
9:40 am est 

Sunday, December 30, 2012

Re: Police Station Petition

Not stupid at all!  I salute the person who has started the petition
and all who sign it. I'm afraid too many of us are just to intimidated by the
powers that be.
Don't get me wrong,,,I have nothing to hide. It's better to be safe than
sorry...that's all.
9:59 pm est 

To: "Blogging Prep!!"

This is a little trivia info to the "collegiate speller" that slams mispelled
words by other bloggers"

Matching scientific brains with Einstein is not an option here.  Practicing
correct spelling, however, unlike your blog that "mispells", is pretty simple. 
It doesn't warrant insults or challenges.  Blame doesn't need to fly and if you
think it does, at least don't blame college.  The root problem was born within
the bowels of the Provincetown school system.  Blame Mrs. Rogers of the H.S. for
her English class in which she tried to teach correct diagramming of sentences
and spelling.  The point is that blogs aren't undermined or discounted for
incorrect spelling, they would simply hold more credence if spelled correctly. 
Why is this so hard to understand and fought so vehemently?  Who would buy a
greeting card with a heart felt message misspelled?  It's fairly simple and not
grounds for insults or challenges. Grow up.
9:58 pm est 

Re: Police Station Petition

I'll sign the petition to prevent construction fo a new police
station. Who has it and where can I sign it?
9:52 pm est 

Re: Police Station Petition

"Who Is behind the Pettion to Have the New Police Station where the Old
One Is?"

I agree totally with this but I don't know who else believes this. The location
has never been a problem but surely Route 6 will be a disaster and will cause
accidents. It's perhpas one of the worse spots given its location. May be
perfect land wise but it isn't on the other side of Route 6. And nothing
justifies this poor location. Nothing.
9:51 pm est 

Re: "Blogging Prep!!"

I think (hope) the person being accused for being a member of the
Spelling Police wasn't talking JUST about misspelled words. A misspelled word
here and there is acceptable. But when you can't even string together a proper
sentence OR convey a clear thought, that's pretty embarrassing. If you were a 16
year old high schooler and you submitted a paragraph like that, it would either
be returned for immediate correction or a grading mark of an "F".
9:49 pm est 

Re: "Blogging Prep!!"

This is a little trivia info to the "collegiate speller" that slams
mispelled words by other bloggers; Einstein was an atrocious speller by his own
admission. Can you match his scientific brain?!
3:19 pm est 

Re: Police Station Petition

Educated or not, gotta love freedom of speech.

And to the spelling police, "gotta" is slang for got to.

3:18 pm est 

Re: Police Station Petition

Try as they might, just a handful of signatures against the police
station. The petition is not being well-received probably because of who is
behind it.
10:35 am est 

Re: Police Station Petition

"A set of jingle balls worthy of the cause"???? 

What a dumb statement. Think before you hit the submit button.
10:17 am est 

Re: Police Station Petition

"Remodeling" THAT DUMP ain't gonna happen. The Building Committee has
already exhausted that possibility.  Instead of bashing the Chief (Gee whiz, I
wonder who you are) EDUCATE yourself so you can sound more intelligent as to WHY
it can't and won't be an option. By the way, the large majority are happy with
the Chief and his department. It's finally not the butt of jokes anymore. Time
to move on, old friend. No matter WHO is Chief or works in that building, NO ONE
deserves those conditions.
10:04 am est 

Re: No New Police Station

To the blogger who feels there should be no new police station because
you don't like the chief, you are disgruntled and bitter. Most of us can guess
who you are. It's precisely this train of thinking that assures me that the
there will be a majority vote to pass the police station.  Sound judgement will
prevail over a small group of ousted, bitter people who vote with personal
vendettas over common sense.
10:02 am est 

Re: Police Station Petition

KUDOS to the person collecting signatures.  A set of jingle balls
worthy of the cause.
9:44 am est 

Saturday, December 29, 2012

Police Station Petition

I was amazed to see someone today in front of the Post Office collecting
signatures to keep the current Police Station where it is and remodel it. What
was nice about it was,allot of people talk about not voting for the new police
station and now to see them putting those words into action via a petition. As
far as I am concerned, what I know (the Chief),has done to some people in this
town and to his very own employees, he'll never get my vote as long as he is the
Chief of Police and I urge others to do the same.
7:03 pm est 

New Year's Wish

Looks like many wonderful Places Open for a great New Year's
Celebration

Hope everyone has a fabulous time! May the New Year be kind to all and bring joy
and propsperity and enjoyment of each other. There are some fabulous people who
live here and cheers to all of them!
3:56 pm est 

Re: New Year's Wish

Sorry to Say some have four years slow
so the clock seems pretty good given the givens..
3:55 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Site

The perfect location for the new police station is, without a doubt,
the dog park. Move the park somewhere else, perhaps the unused soccer field.
3:53 pm est 

Re: "Blogging Prep!!"

These Are Not Writers

If they are not perfect spellers, I see no problem. the world is not perfect and
so the bloggers here may mispell a word or two.

It's the message I listen to and I don't fault poor spellers for poor spelling.
3:51 pm est 

New Year's Wish

MY WISH

I wish that all I had to be concerned about and spend time posting about was
that the clock over town hall is 4 minutes too slow!!!!

I drove through Connecticut and was shocked..as was every other driver I'm sure,
when I saw an exit sign for Sandy Neck and Newtown on the highway.

I have a little money in the bank, a loving family and extended family, devoted
friends who love me and who have my back and my dream of living in Provincetown
came true many, many years ago.

Another New Year added to a long necklace of New Years laced together of being
in Provincetown. And I do support new buildings for our police and town workers.

Happy New Year and wishing everyone good cheer.
3:46 pm est 

New Police/DPW Buildings

Re... Build the new police / dpw buildings....

That's 14 million dollars worth of cakes and bake sale goods.
Thats going to be a very expensive cake sale!
10:07 am est 

New Year's Wish

My wish for the town for the New Year is that the town clock gets
moved up a bit.  Its been 4 minutes or slow for a very long time.  Is it that
hard to fix?   Seems like one easy thing in Provincetown to make right!
10:05 am est 

Provincetown

Actually...
Lately it seems Provincetown has become more if a "puh-leeze" state.
10:03 am est 

Friday, December 28, 2012

Re: "Blogging Prep!!"

Will the Spelling Police please give it a break...you are way more
annoying then a few misspelled words. I doubt anyone but you has a problem
understanding the content.  It is much more important that people can feel free
to express an opinion without having to worry about you.
As others have said, we really do live in Police State.
Trust no one!
10:46 pm est 

Re: "Blogging Prep!!"

To:  "Not everyone spells Well
I don't see the need to undermine someone's message"

Get a grip.  No one is undermining anything.  Correct spelling is important if a
blogger, or anyone publishing written word, wants his/her words to be effective. 
You are undermining by your accusations of undermining, when in truth, a simple
statement about correct spelling was made.  If you are so worried bloggers who
can't spell well will not be "heard" and are being selectively undermined, and
you must throw accusations to prove your point, start a class in spelling,
rather than trying to create drama where there is none.  If you can bother to
learn to type and to take the time to blog, you should be able to bother to
learn to spell, at least somewhat correctly.
10:43 pm est 

Re: "Blogging Prep!!"

"They have been denoucned..."

Ouch.  Sounds like that would smart (as in hurt).
6:37 pm est 

Re: From: David J. Ditacchio - Former Marine Superintendent

Thanks to David for His Posting

I was away and I am glad that he presented what he knows about those rather odd,
"disappearing" moorings of yesteryear. Thanks so very much for the update and
the facts.
6:35 pm est 

Re: "Blogging Prep!!"

Not everyone spells Well

I don't see the need to undermine someone's message because they are poor
spellers. Not everyone is great at spelling. I'm more interested in the message
than perfect grammar and dictionary-perfect wording. some people are more gifted
than others. It's not a big to-do.
6:32 pm est 

Re: "Spelling Errors Detract From the Message"

At least one blogger uses purposeful mispelling to pretend he is more than one
blogger and to hide his identity.
5:05 pm est 

The Banner

So glad they are looking for a copy editor. After reading their "year-end"
story, they really need one.

Dr. Beth Fisher? Who is she?

The reference was made to Dr. Beth Singer.

Close, but no cigar....

Journalism standards at their finest!

5:03 pm est 

Amen Blogging Prep!!

Some of the gems I've seen on here: A police officer standing in the rain "soak
and wet", fishing should be "band" on the pier, people in Provincetown feel "in
titled" and tourists "comming" for the summer and "durring" their vacation. You
are correct, when I read such buffoonery I dismiss the message.
5:01 pm est 

Re: Generational Theft

A poster wrote about local generational theft recently. We follow suit
with "Big Brother" who have been doing that for years and still are. Re former
Police Chief Robert Anthony,s lottery incident at the V.F.W. the poster
indicated he was'nt the brightest star in the sky,his was a political
appointment. That system still prevails in Town now ,so what's different?
Happens in town gov't and fed gov't every day Surprise!
4:58 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Mooring Investigation Fiasco

Obviously one poster is unfamiliar with the law! There could be a
slander case against the town if "Grassy" and his business re this mooring issue
has no merit by the court as the town has indicated. Theft is damaging to his
reputation and business.

If the Harbormaster - If the Harbormaster was accused of being an accomplice
because he used to work for "Grassy" before which legally has no bearing on the
mooring case now, then the Harbormaster can also sue the town for sullying his
reputation and could damage him from getting further jobs if he gets fired now.

The Town Manager had better prove this conspiracy between John "Grassy" Santos
and Harbormaster Rex McLinsey, or they could own this Town!

The paper said that Joe McNeil is retired to Florida.It's reported that he has
been dead for years. He was the brother of former State Representative John
McNeil,remember Him?
4:52 pm est 

Re: Blogging Prep!

Um, it's spelled "Provincetown".

A Rat In The Basement
4:47 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

BUILD THE NEW POLICE STATION AND DPW BUILDING

From what I've read and seen on PTV, we have squeezed every ounce of worth out
of these buildings.

They have been denoucned by the building committee as unusable. Watch PTV and
hear the results of the work by the committee.

What is going on that people don't see the need to replace these buildings? If
this was a school, there would be bake sales all over town to raise money.
4:45 pm est 

Thursday, December 27, 2012

Blogging Prep!

Forget town meeting, I make a motion right here that any blogger
wanting to be taken seriously do one of the following:
#1 - learn to spell
#2 - learn to use spellcheck
#3 - admit an impaired state existed at time of blogging
#4 - have someone who can spell come over and proof-read

Spelling errors detract from the message.  Any good English teacher from any
Ptown school can attest to that.

10:39 pm est 

Re: Re: Infrastructure Improvements vs Taxes

Even a cursory glance and sum of the amounts raided from town coffers to reduce
property taxes over the years shows it comes close, adjusted for inflation, to
the amounts the town had to spend to restore town hall and keep it from falling
down. It makes crystal clear the tactic was to shirk capital investment in
infrastructure to temporarily suppress higher taxes. Same problem as federal and
state governments, ignore the future to reduce the present pain and get
re-elected.

As a relatively younger property owner I am so glad those days are over and that
we are now facing our capital needs fairly squarely on, or at least were until
the current crop got appointed to finance committee. I'm so tired of the boomers
sticking it to future generations so that they can have lower taxes in their
dotage years because they made bad choices in their lvies. Let's not repeated
the same mistake of Intergenerational theft. As has been pointed out, we already
have the lowest taxes in the state for our level of property values.


5:32 pm est 

Re: Cape Cod Times - Robert Anthony, Fomer Police Chief

Oh well, just so long as we can still keep drinking there on the
cheap.
4:49 pm est 

Cape Cod Times - Robert Anthony, Fomer Police Chief

What is this I read in the Cape Cod Times????? Former Police Chief
Robert Anthony has had his gaming license taken away by the state for knowingly
using illegal 'pull tabs' (?) at the Ptown VFW. What is up with townies feeling
they are above the law?  Come on, peeps, this is getting embarrassing.
3:19 pm est 

Re: From: David J. Ditacchio - Former Marine Superintendent

WHY IS DAVID D.,THE FORMER HARBORMASTER COMMENTING?

Do I have to do the math for you?

   2012
  -  17
  ------
   1995

Ring any bells?
3:17 pm est 

Re: From: David J. Ditacchio - Former Marine Superintendent

David ditacchio Knows the History of the S0-Named "missing" moorings

He was harbormaster then and he was involved in false allegations by Barry
Cliffor who seems to be raising the same issue this time with a different
harbormaster.

On the issue of these moorings, nothing seems wrong. It seems they were sold to
Grassey and I remember when this happened. The problem I find with the Town
Manager and the Chief is that they are acting as if these "missing" morrings are
a new problems when many of us here knew about these long ago. It is strange how
this new allegation has surfaced and I believe there are ulterior reasons for
the new but it seems quite false allegations aginst Rex and Grassy.

I appreciate his informing us about the details that occurred when he was
harbormaster. Facts are key and David has the facts.

If Barry Clifford is still looking for these moorings, it seems he has a problem
or is the problem.
3:15 pm est 

Re: "Police State"

JUST WHEN YOU THINK YOU'VE READ IT ALL - this one takes home a prize
in the Asinine Category - (and I'm going to quote this because it's THAT
asinine) - "this mooring business is just another scam by Sharon and the chief
to create crime where non(e) exists."  We are all born ignorant, but YOU sure
work hard to remain THAT stupid.....
11:59 am est 

Re: District Attorney-Here We Go Again!

"I'm pretty sure they're willing to let it play out in the courts
instead of on this blog."



Won't go anywhere, with our without merit, if they can't get their hands on IP
addresses.
11:56 am est 

Re: "Police State"

My God - the idiotic statements on this blog. You really are grabbing
at straws here by suggesting the TM and Chief are fabricating a mooring scam "to
create crime where none exists".  You're really,really, really NOT very bright.
11:54 am est 

"Police State"

Hahahahaha! Provincetown is a POLICE STATE?!?!  Holy crap - you really
should move then. You're obviously on something illegal.
10:40 am est 

Thanks David For the Info...

But what about the Moorings????

I am not alone in believing that all this mooring business is just another scam
by Sharon and the chief to create crime where non exists.
This time poor Rex is nothing but coladeral damage...the real threat to
everything they want is Grassey. He and Eric hold too much power...
Watch. Out both of you....We live in a Police State already!
10:23 am est 

Anti-hate Campaign by Who?

Didn't she have a facebook page shut down for running a hate campaign on it? She
has to have a purely self-motivated reason for this because the picture here
just is so out of focus.
9:59 am est 

Re: From: David J. Ditacchio - Former Marine Superintendent

WHY IS DAVID D.,THE FORMER HARBORMASTER COMMENTING?

It seems that the pier corps needs to fire its harbormaster. If not, then the
police chief needs to do so.

How many "breaks" does this harbormaster get? Most of us taxpayers don't know
what goes on at the pier--but the chief and town manager do.

Why is David. D. even commenting here? Lets get the town in order and get a new
harbor master and get things legit on the pier.
9:57 am est 

Re: District Attorney-Here We Go Again!

"Your friend is an idiot and so are you as well as your friends
partner. As public figures, the DA and your friend in "town government" have to prove to a
higher degree what the damage is to their lives and lifestyles as a result of
the so called slander. . ."



How mature of you to resort to name calling.  I'm pretty sure they're willing to
let it play out in the courts instead of on this blog.  Most people in town
couldn't are less about this blog, but when it is used to defame people in town
people will care and most will agree it should be stopped.
9:54 am est 

Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Pier Corps

Why have the pier corps if the chief can fire the harbormaster. If this is the
case; Rex M. should be fired pronto.
5:14 pm est 

Re: From: David J. Ditacchio - Former Marine Superintendent

Yo Ditachio -

Neither the Town Manager nor the Police Chief are challenging you on your tenure.
Careful. I'd say you're being baited.....
5:11 pm est 

Re: From: David J. Ditacchio - Former Marine Superintendent

Keep it coming David! As controvercial as you may have been during your tenure,
you did an excellent job and kept everyone on their toes. And if anyone has his
documentation in order, it's you. I agree that PYC was a nightmare and they
still have long lasting effects on this town.
12:39 pm est 

Re: District Attorney-Here We Go Again!

Your friend is an idiot and so are you as well as your friends partner. As
public figures, the DA and your friend in "town government" have to prove to a
higher degree what the damage is to their lives and lifestyles as a result of
the so called slander. Call you a "pedophile" as as a result you didn't get a job
as a teacher, that can be proven to be detrimental. Call you an idiot, you'll
prove yourself to be one once you file that case in court.
12:37 pm est 

Re: District Attorney-Here We Go Again!

So you're saying anyone can slander anyone we want on this blog
without repercussion?

I think we'll probably see that put to the test sooner than you might think.  My
best friend is a public figure in town.  He/she does not read this blog, but has
asked to be informed if he/she is slandered on this blog.  He/she won't hesitate
to test it in the courts.  His/her significant other is an attorney and is
willing to test the case pro bono.
10:55 am est 

Blog Weather Incorrect-Why?

Why is the weather on this blog always wrong?  It's not 78 degrees
tonight.
10:46 am est 

You're Plain Just Nuts........... !

You have lost your little brain cells many years ago. Defamation is what you are
all about. hate is what you traffic in. You of all people are staring an
against hate campaign. Give us all a break!

Nuts and nuts! You have lost your every little       mind. sad for your family
but that is what has happen. Go to Florida and recuperate. But, please, don't
rush back.
10:40 am est 

From: David J. Ditacchio - Former Marine Superintendent

Statement of facts.

I challenge the Town Manager, Chief of Police or anyone else as to the facts
pertaining to my tenure as Marine Superintendent from 1995 to 2001.  Just ask
the Town Manager how many thousands of taxpayer dollars in legal fees were spent
and waisted on phony charges and hearsay that PYM made against me during my
tenure.  Also add in the thousands of dollars the town had to pay my lawyer, for
Bergman's personal and false attacks against me, when he couldn't produce
written documents backing up charges made against me. 

As for chief Jaran, when he first took command of the police dept.,  I informed him
that the harbormaster came under his command, and that I had documentation
showing that to be the case.  Jaran stated that it was not the case.  He was wrong
and should have had control of the harbormaster from day one.   Perhaps the chief
should check his files.  And I do have the documentation to back up what I have stated.

David J. Ditacchio

10:32 am est 

Monday, December 24, 2012

Re: Get Your Priorities Straight!

"All of this BS about the Mooring Fields is smoke and mirrors being
created to draw attention away from the corrupt police state we are living in
and is growing by leaps and bounds under Captain Lynn in Town Hall and the head
munchkin on Shankpainter Rd. .  ."



I know, I know, you were sitting with friends during the Holly Folly concert and
they asked about all the police in town and did we have a problem with a lot of
crime.

Seems like many who have problems with law enforcement always want to blame law
enforcement for their problems instead of looking in the mirror to find the true
problem.
11:10 pm est 

Re: From: Mary-Jo Avellar

"I am proud of my appointments to the finance committee."

Dear Ms. Avellar,
Seems like you and your finance committee members have a tendency to speak out
of both sides of your mouth.  I'm embarrassed for you if these appointments were
the best you could do.

You made two quality appointments to the committee and you made those two only
when you were publicly humiliated into doing so after it was pointed out to you
that you were ignoring highly qualified individuals in order to appoint your
husband and your cronies.
11:07 pm est 

Re: District Attorney

"I hope the DA subpeona's the My Space posters that keep alleging all
of these wrong doings and bring defamation charges"


Here we go again.  At least once per year, someone tries to stiffle free speech
they don't like on here by threatening posters with legal action.

Whether or not posted comments constitute "defamation" against what are mostly
public figures (a good lawyer in this field would tell you that it does not) is
irrelevant if IP addresses cannot be traced.

1st the blog master (Clarence) never sees IP addresses.  They only go to the
blog hosting company he uses.  They in turn are not required by law to keep IP
addresses on file, and most such hosts do not.

If still concerned, Google "anonymous surfing" and use one of the free groups
that happily will be a middle-man in posts.  Your IP address would thus never go
to the blog host at all. Many of these groups operate outside the US, so are not
subject to subpoena even if they kept IP's on file, which they don't. Gotta love
the web.

Or: post your comments using a public PC, such as at the library; or use any
public wifi in town, such as Wired Puppy - their IP address will go to the blog
host, not yours.

Happy holidays, posters, and blog on, ignoring the hollow threats from those who
don't want free speech when they don't agree with it!
11:05 pm est 

District Attorney

I hope the DA subpeona's the My Space posters that keep alleging all of these
wrong doings and bring defamation charges if they can't prove what they spew on
here.
7:59 pm est 

Re: Infrastructure Improvements vs Taxes

We raided Free Cash and the Parking Fund to reduce taxes  until we
could raid them no more. Then we raided the Stabilization Fund to keep the Town
afloat.

2000 Annual Town Meeting:

Article 38. Use of Parking Funds to Reduce the Tax Rate. To see if the Town will
vote to transfer a sum of money from Parking Funds to reduce the Fiscal Year
2001 property tax levy, as provided by Chapter 790 of the Acts of 1981, or to
take any other action relative thereto.
[Requested by the Town Manager and the Board of Selectmen]
FINANCE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS: 5-0-0
BOARD OF SELECTMEN RECOMMENDS: 5-0-0

Elizabeth Steele-Jeffers moved that the Town vote to transfer the sum of
$1,340,625 from Parking Funds to reduce the Fiscal Year 2001 property tax levy,
as provided by Chapter 790 of the Acts of 1981.
Motion Carried.

2001 Annual Town Meeting:

Article 43. Use of Parking Funds to Reduce the Tax Rate. To see if the Town will
vote to transfer a sum of money from Parking Funds to reduce the Fiscal Year
2002 property tax levy, as provided by Chapter 790 of the Acts of 1981, or to
take any other action relative thereto.
[Requested by the Town Manager and the Board of Selectmen]
FINANCE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS $1,325,000: 8-0-0
BOARD OF SELECTMEN RESERVES RECOMMENDATION

Elizabeth Steele-Jeffers moved that the Town vote to transfer the sum of
$1,325,000 from Parking Funds to reduce the Fiscal Year 2002 property tax levy,
as provided by Chapter 790 of the Acts of 1981.
Motion Carried.

2002 Annual Town Meeting:

Article 75. Use of Parking Funds to Reduce the FY 2003 Tax Levy. To see if the
Town will vote to transfer a sum of money from Parking Funds to reduce the
Fiscal Year 2003 property tax levy, as provided by Chapter 790 of the Acts of
1981, or to take any other action relative thereto.
[Requested by the Town Manager and the Board of Selectmen]
FINANCE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS: 5-0-0
BOARD OF SELECTMEN RECOMMENDS: 4-0-0

Elizabeth Steele-Jeffers moved that the Town will vote to transfer the sum of
$1,750,000 from Parking Funds to reduce the Fiscal Year 2003 property tax levy,
as provided by Chapter 790 of the Acts of 1981.
Motion Carried.

2003 Annual Town Meeting:

Article 33. Use of Parking Fund to Reduce the FY 2004 Tax Levy. To see if the
Town will vote to transfer the sum of $1,200,000, or any greater or lesser sum,
from the Parking Fund to reduce the Fiscal Year 2004 property tax levy, as
provided by Chapter 790 of the Acts of 1981, or to take any other action
relative thereto.
[Requested by the Town Manager and the Board of Selectmen]
FINANCE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS: 5-0-0
BOARD OF SELECTMEN RECOMMENDS: 5-0-0

Mary-Jo Avellar moved that the Town vote to transfer the sum of $1,200,000 from
the Parking Fund to reduce the Fiscal Year 2004 property tax levy, as provided
by Chapter 790 of the Acts of 1981.
Motion carried

2004 Annual Town Meeting:

Article 34. Use of Free Cash to Reduce FY 2005 Property Tax. To see what sum the
Town will vote to transfer from Free Cash to reduce the Fiscal Year 2005
property tax levy; or to take any other action relative thereto.
[Requested by the Town Manager and the Board of Selectmen]
BOARD OF SELECTMEN RECOMMENDS: 5-0-0
FINANCE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS: 7-0-0

Mary-Jo Avellar moved that the Town vote to transfer from Free Cash the sum of
$270,000 to reduce the Fiscal Year 2005 property tax levy.
Motion Passed.

Article 35. Use of Parking Fund to Reduce the FY 2005 Tax Levy. To see if the
Town will vote to transfer the sum of $1,100,000, or any greater or lesser sum,
from the Parking Fund to reduce the Fiscal Year 2005 property tax levy, as
provided by Chapter 790 of the Acts of 1981, or to take any other action
relative thereto.
[Requested by the Town Manager and the Board of Selectmen]
BOARD OF SELECTMEN RECOMMENDS: 5-0-0
FINANCE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS: 7-0-0

Mary-Jo Avellar moved that the Town vote to transfer the sum of $1,100,000 from
the Parking Fund to reduce the Fiscal Year 2005 property tax levy, as provided
by Chapter 790 of the Acts of 1981.
Motion Passed.

2005 Annual Town Meeting:

Article 2. FY 2006 Operating Budget Bottom Line.

Cheryl Andrews moved that the Town vote to raise and appropriate the sum of
$19,858,789; transfer from the Land Bank Fund the sum of $324,344; transfer from
the Municipal Waterways Improvement Fund the sum of $5,300; and transfer from
the Stabilization Fund the sum of $388,000; for a total of $20,576,433, to fund
operating budgets for the several Town departments for Fiscal Year 2006 in
accordance with Chapter 9, section 1 of the Provincetown Charter.
Motion Passed. (2/3rds Vote Declared)
7:56 pm est 

Ah, But Lady MacBeth Is In charge

She is the one wringing her hands and wringing them again over this "fiasco,"
this unexpected disappearance of moorings. Lady Macbeth is in charge and it is
she, with blood on her hands, that should be investigated. She would protest but
she knows the deeds done in the middle of the night.
7:51 pm est 

Get Your Priorities Straight!

All of this BS about the Mooring Fields is smoke and mirrors being
created to draw attention away from the corrupt police state we are living in
and is growing by leaps and bounds under Captain Lynn in Town Hall and the head
munchkin on Shankpainter Rd. Spending MILLIONS of dollars we do not have for a
state of the art police station in a town with no crime and no population.
This is what needs to be investigated. WAKE THE F UP PEOPLE!
You will be sorry if you do not get your priorities straight.
Oh, and a Very Merry Christmas to all of my townie neighbors.
7:49 pm est 

From: Mary-Jo Avellar

To those questioning my appointments to the finance committee and my
votes during my term as selectmen, let me say this:

1. I was the only selectmen to vote against the establishment of the
Provincetown Public Pier Corporation. I said it would take hundreds of thousands
of dollars out of the hands of the town and place them in the hands of a
NON-ACCOUNTABLE, INDEPENDENT entity. I was right and the PPPC spent money,
willy-nilly without having to explain itself to the voters at Town Meeting.

 The shame of this also being that the selectmen and administration were
complicit in not curbing the PPPC's wasteful spending practices and the chickens
are now coming home to roost. Wait until Town Meeting is asked to cough up
$1,000,000+ to redo the floats on the East side of the pier, finance a wave
attenuater, not to mention the decking and other soon to be necessary and
expensive repairs.

 Don't forget that WE own MacMillan Pier. Not the PPPC whom we expected to
exercise good stewardship in their management of MacMIllan Pier. If any other
town department managed itself the way the PPPC has managed our pier, they would
have been fired years ago.

2. During part of this period, my husband was a an assistant harbormaster and as
such I had to recuse myself from any and all discussions regarding the PPPC.

3. I am proud of my appointments to the finance committee. For the first time in
several years, questions are finally being asked about how the town is spending
its money. Finance committees are the watchdogs and guardians of tax payers
dollars, something our past finance committees seem to have forgotten.

Another example of chickens coming home to roost. It's about time Town Meeting
had more than one opinion to debate. Differences of opinion are the essence of
democracy. Students of US history know that even the founding fathers had their
differences.

Mary-Jo Avellar
7:45 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Mooring Field Investigation Fiasco

What will be revealed in the audit is that the town is resposible for the
mismanagement of the entire affair. Stink rises and at the top of the mess is
the board of selectmen and the TM. In the end, blame can go round and round but
the final answer will be that town government, being the harbormaster/Pier Corp.
and the police department, directed and overseen by the TM office and the board
of selectmen, didn't do their jobs correctly. Chalk this one up to another
exposure of Provincetown mismanagement. Whats next, perhaps an assessment of
Cabrals pier AFTER it's bought for the new low price of $3 million? Wasn't there
an assessment done over 20 years ago regarding its structural integrity? Will
the town buy the wharf and THEN complain about it's integrity? Wake up people.
7:40 pm est 

Provincetown's Mooringgate

They can investigate all they want, but no one is going to have
records going back 20 years.  Provincetown's Mooringgate is only being used as a
political vendetta against the Harbormaster and Selectman Santos.  Perhaps
Mooringgate is a way to divert attention away from other political issues.
7:38 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Mooring Field Investigation Fiasco

In all the years Rex McKinsey has been harbormaster, how come the town
has received no abandoned moorings and sold them as surplus? It's incredible
that everyone who owned a mooring, sold his or her boat, didn't renew his or her
permits since didn't need to and thought to see if there was a secondary market
to sell the mooring infrastructure.

Nothing is on the Town's books as I combed through all the town annual reports
since he has been harbormaster. This will be one area certainly the independent
auditors will be looking at too.
9:13 am est 

Re: Provincetown Mooring Field Investigation Fiasco

"The District Attorney's office recommended an
independent audit of the mooring fields take place and that is what is going to
happen.

PERIOD."

First off, the DA and the rest of his office are an embarrassment to law
enforcement. That being said, do you really think that everyone is going to
simply open their books for review over the past 20 years? Do you really think
Clifford will cooperate? And now Noons and Kincor and McNeil? DO YOU REALLY
THINK THAT??

And once the air is cleared and Provincetown has been found to be
fools in this chase, what then? Where do people like Grassy and Noah go for
redemption over this mess, being dragged in for no reason other than years of
mismanagement by the town, both at Town Hall and at the harbormasters office? If
this is how investigations occur, shame on us all.
9:11 am est 

Delayed Maintenance

All maintenance would be voted down on buildings is certain people have their
way. How a citizen can keep her eyes closed about the terrible condition of our
buildings and implore people to continue having workers in these dilapidated
buildings is beyond me.
9:09 am est 

Re: Police Station

The chief will pout and the officers will whine about how they have to put their
lives on the line every day and base their operations out of a building that
isn't state of the artb that the taxpayers should pay for as they pay the
overbloated salaries of the police department.
9:06 am est 

Re: Infrastructure Improvements vs Taxes

The original estimate to repair the roof of the school before former
Selectman Mary Jo Avellar gave back free cash to taxpayers was between
$25-35,000. As we all know, the cost now which we are footing is over $1,000,000
of free cash. Money which could been used more wisely if, MJA wasn't so
short-sighted not to maintain the Town's buildings and roads . Even more
alarming this woman is now appointing members of the Finance Committee and has
appointed Catherine Russo, her protegee, who not only knows a thing about
municipal finance but also wants to give free cash back to taxpayers. Ugh!
9:04 am est 

Re: Provincetown Mooring Field Investigation Fiasco

Shakespearian in Nature

Ah, what was said by Lady Macbeth..she so ardently expressed her innocence that
she drew attention to her guilt.

How apropos..the Lady doth protest too much..and thus the wagons circling the
Mooring scandle gets tighter and tighter.

Justice will be done when the experienced auditors begin their search and the
taxpayers will be vindicated.

It is still a surprise that the harbor master hasn't been fired. I guess that
any financial justice towards the taxpayers just don't count anymore.
9:01 am est 

Re: Provincetown Mooring Field Investigation Fiasco

Good point about conflicting info coming out of the Santos' camp about
who they bought the Whydah's moorings from. Father-son perhaps you should be on
the same page as you do your public outreach and damage control?
8:58 am est 

Sunday, December 23, 2012

Infrastructure Improvements vs Taxes

2004 Annual Town Meeting

"Article 34. Use of Free Cash to Reduce FY 2005 Property Tax. To see what sum the
Town will vote to transfer from Free Cash to reduce the Fiscal Year 2005
property tax levy; or to take any other action relative thereto."


Mary-Jo Avellar moved that the Town vote to transfer from Free Cash the sum of
$270,000 to reduce the Fiscal Year 2005 property tax levy.
Motion Passed.


This is an example of an awful decision.  In 2004 given the opportunity to pave
streets or properly maintain buildings the residents voted instead to put the
money back into their pockets thereby forcing the more expensive rehabilitation
of buildings on future generations.  And now we are paying for their lack of
foresight and greed.  They let the buildings and streets fall into dis-repair by
their unwillingness to act.  That's who you should be blaming if your tax rates
are going up now.
6:48 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Mooring Field Investigation Fiasco

"And thank you Noah for stepping up to the plate and explaining these
issues. Seems fairly clear to me. Very good job!"




I'm sorry, what is Noah's last name?  Gee, do you think he's got a vested
interested in how this turns out?  The district attorney's office recommended an
independent audit of the mooring fields take place and that is what is going to
happen.

PERIOD.
6:09 pm est 

Re: Police Station

"Could someone please explain to me what the downside would be if we did nothing
about the police station and kept the status quo?"


Well, for one thing, the second floor will need to be reinforced. It's not able
to bear all of the weight.

6:07 pm est 

Let's Investigate Town Hall

Let's look at what Sharon Lynn has approved and any       she          from
this--including Ann Mcquire's      . for all the AECOM deals; for all the boston
architectural firms's work on town hall and the liberary--and now , yes, the
high shcool. How much did              from these "deals"? Haw much indeed!

It's not Rex McKinsey I want investigated. It's Sharon Lynn and her cohorts. for
all these huge projects,                                                                         ?

Time to ask this question. Let others answer it. Or let the attorney general
pose a response.

Where did so much                and             for funds go? That is the
ansswer I want. Not the pedly fess from some lost moorings!
6:06 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Mooring Field Investigation Fiasco

But noah did nt yout father say to the cc times he bought them from
the owner of the whydah before clifford bought the whyfah not his employee?

5:52 pm est 

Re: Police Station

Could someone please explain to me what the downside would be if we did nothing
about the police station and kept the status quo?
2:06 pm est 

Street Paving Status

Commercial St. is open!
10:48 am est 

Re: Provincetown Mooring Field Investigation Fiasco

Thank you Noah

I hope every person associated with the harbor, police and selecmans office over
the past 20 years is required to read and respond to Noahs letter. Lets get some
answers to claims he sounds like he can back up! I hope a copy of this letter
gets into every selectmans agenda package before next meeting. Keep in mind also
that Grassy is currently against the new police department in it's current
proposal and oh, doesn't that make the chief and TM squirm. Isn't it intersting
that now Grassy is involved in an "investigation", lnocking him out of any
discussions regarding a department that is investigationg him. Don't think thats
a reason for this investigation? You've been asleep at the wheel if you don't.
And someone mentioned in here that the chief went to FBI school? Looks like he
doesn't know how to use what he learned. The incompetence on this matter is
astounding. I hope others (hear me Dittachio) will speak up on the matter and
clear the air even if they don't have a stake!
  in the matter. Speak up and do the right thing.

And thank you Noah for stepping up to the plate and explaining these issues.
Seems fairly clear to me. Very good job!
10:40 am est 

Re: Provincetown Mooring Field Investigation Fiasco

Noah, although certainly not illegal, how many times did Flyer's
shuttle boat tie up overnight for free over the years since Rex was harbormaster
and not pay a nightly fee or get it approved by his board of bosses? There is a
rightful perception out there that a lot of value has been given away by the
harbormaster to Flyers which reflects mismanagement on his part and short
changing the Town.
10:37 am est 

Re: New Police Station

"Provincetown has become an expensive place to live because we have
made awful decisions that increased the tax base. For some, this is just fine. 
.  ."


What you call an awful decision I call a responsible decision.  Paving our
streets and maintaining our buildings are responsible decisions.  They are
responsible decisions that should have been made years ago.  The awful decisions
were made by the preceding generation who neglected our buildings and streets
for years.
10:36 am est 

Re: Provincetown Mooring Field Investigation Fiasco

The more the Flyers Boat Rental group raise a stink the more you
realize there is something there.  They really don't want anyone looking through
the records do they?
10:34 am est 

Re: New Police Station

Just what generation are saving the town for?
10:32 am est 

Re: Provincetown Mooring Field Investigation Fiasco

No Noah you are wrong on the below. The Commonwealth of Massachusetts
in 2007 (Alan Cote, State Supervisor) found the Town could be subjected to
criminal and civil liability for passing the Town's mooring fees through the
Pier Corporation's books. It is a public document and can be requested. Who was
doing the books? The harbormaster was doing the books. Many thought the
harbormaster was doing this to puff up the bottom line of the Pier Corporation's
books to show that the organziation had value to the Town because many wanted it
dissolved. Forensic auditing should have been done back then and I'm glad it's
being done now. Be very careful Noah about shooting off in anger without doing
your research.

 "Political issues aside, arguments against the bookkeeping methods of the Pier
Corporation were repeatedly made by Candace Nagle and Duane Steele. Mr. Steele
presented to the Board of Selectmen detailed information showing the
misallocation of mooring fund receipts, only to be terminated for cause."
10:29 am est 

Re: New Police Station

Shame On You!

Provincetown has become an expensive place to live because we have made awful
decisions that increased the tax base. For some, this is just fine. Let the
rich--Romney's 2%--come and live here. But, no, enough of excessive spending so
that the poorer among us have to leave. and some, are glad they are gone, as
they replace them with their own select group.

Let every new huge project come forth and the tax base increase. This just means
that many townies have to sell and that is the larger agenda of too many here.
let the old Portuguese community sell and then let the rich come in. they can
easily absorb new taxs and then the town belongs to a new group.

Tis the agenda. spend and spend so that those who were part of this town leave
and the newer, richer ones come in. Huge projects, and this includes the police
station, guarantee that those who once lived here must sell and leave while the
others are welcomed with money-laded open arms.

This is the real and tragic agenda. Create the biggest, most exponseive
projects--town hall, the library--and then look for more. the rich will love
this and the older residents will leave. For too many, this is a win, win
situation. I find it sick and tragic but clearly driven by this town hall and
its kitchen cabinet.
2:07 am est 

Commercial Street Construction
 
Commercial Street will  reopen to vehicle traffic tomorrow. Please use
this opportunity to support local business which has been severely damaged by
the construction.
2:01 am est 

Saturday, December 22, 2012

Re: Provincetown Mooring Field Investigation Fiasco

Wow. LOVE it. The attorneys and auditors are going to have a field day
with Noah's article. People are clicking the "Save" button everywhere.
Beautiful. Merry Christmas. What a blessing.
8:13 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Mooring Field Investigation Fiasco

There is far more detail put forth by Noah Santos than all of the
verbiage published by the Cape Code Times, The Banner, Police Chief Jeff Jaran
or the Town Manager Sharon Lynn.

He speaks with clarity and does a good job of connecting the dots concerning the
"found moorings". He explains precisely the time-line of events, which completely
disassociates the present Harbormaster from any involvement in the matter of
alleged mooring thief and reveals the probable ulterior motives behind the
allegations. Additionally, he raises the issue of missing files, which seemingly
appear when convenient.

Political issues aside, arguments against the bookkeeping methods of the Pier
Corporation were repeatedly made by Candace Nagle and Duane Steele. Mr. Steele
presented to the Board of Selectmen detailed information showing the
misallocation of mooring fund receipts, only to be terminated for cause.

Only now, five years later, after having ridiculed Mr. Steele and his findings,
does the Town Manager, BOS and Police Chief miraculously raise the same issues.
Indeed, in his report, Mr. Steele called for an outside audit of the Pier
Corporation books, to no avail.

The horror of all of this is that an opportunity to bring about
effective-positive change is being complicated by the conflating of two
disparate issues i.e. mooring theft and current pier operations.

There is no legal case (re: mooring theft) against Harbormaster Rex McKinsey
regarding issues over which he was not involved. He did not work for the Pier
Corp during the period in question.

A clear case has been made regarding the mismanagement of the pier and the
Harbormaster bears the responsibility as the general manager of operations. It
is for this and nothing else that he should be held responsible.

As for the theft of moorings the complainant never established that he had legal
authorization or possession of a mooring field or moorings. When confronted by
the then Habormaster, the complainant did not press charges. Additionally, more
than half of the moorings in question were never in the water when purchased by
Mr. Santos.

This is yet another case in point where town officials have over reached their
authority to achieve a political end.

We should all be concerned as to the handling of this matter and its outcome.
8:11 pm est 

Provincetown Mooring Field Investigation Fiasco
 
I know I am going to pay for this, but,I have to respond to some of the outrageous claims being thrown around regarding moorings in Provincetown Harbor.

Seventeen years after Francis J. Santos as president of Flyer's Boat Rental Inc.
legally purchased moorings and mooring equipment from Jack Clark long time
employee Joe McKneill of a defunct business venture PYM and also from John F.
Noons excavation where said blocks sat in storage unpaid in Truro, the town
manager, police chief and apparently the media have chosen to report the
unfounded rantings of another business person in town, the infamous owner of the
Whydah Museum, Barry Clifford, claiming that he owns said moorings.

Further, and more disturbingly, they have contrived to invent a conspiracy
between now Harbor Master Rex McKinsey and now selectman Santos that they worked together to steal these moorings or some such fantasy.
 
McKinsey was not harbor master at the time and did not and could not have had
any involvement in this deal. And even though the town manager recognizes this
fact she still insinuates an impossible connection in an apparent effort to unseat
McKinsey. Police Chief Jeff Jarren is quoted as saying the dealings between Santos and McKinsey, a former employee of Flyer's (it's a small town you know) "does not pass the sniff test."

If there is any stink in town, perhaps it is the relationship between the town
manager, a former police officer, and the police chief. Perhaps they have been derelict in their duties to properly investigate hearsay allegations before rushing
to town hall and the media with unfounded allegations.
 
If I were to follow their thinking, I would see a possible conspiracy between
the two to discredit two well respected members of our community for their
own political benefit and agenda.

It is clear to many in town that the chief is intent on taking over the harbor
master's office and add to his ever-growing empire. He states that he wants to
find lost revenue, but has no problem spending 5.3 million dollars on a new
police station. That amount wouldnt even cover the interest for a month on this
project.

Let us look at some facts-

The dispute over the defunct mooring field outside of the breakwater was
addressed by the previous Town Manager Keith Bergman and then Police Chief
Robert Anthony. This is covered in a memorandum of August 29, 1996. In this, the
false claims by Clifford could never be established.
 
Here is a quote from David Ditacchio, then Marine Superintendent (Harbor Master).
September 5, 1996:
 
"Since Clifford and or Lazier now claim ownership of 40 moorings in Provincetown Harbor, they should be advised immediately that the records of the Marine Superintendent contain no evidence that permits required by local and state law have been applied for or issued with respect to the 40 mooring and, further, that the records of the Marine Superintendent reflect that no fee has been paid by the PYM for the privilege of maintaining 40 moorings in Provincetown Harbor as required by local law."

To this day there have been no payments for this defunct mooring field to the
Town of Provincetown. If Clifford wants to bring payments up to date for 17
years it should just about bankrupt him.

The police chief's suggestion that each of these moorings is worth $1,500 is
extremely ill-informed and is based on the cost to a customer of a complete,
installed mooring block with chain, ball and warp including all associated labor
costs.

What we are actually supposedly talking about is concrete blocks with chain
attached left sitting in the water for 17 years. The chain is long ago junk. The
top tackle of these mooring balls was undeniably sold separately. Which Flyers
Bought from John F. Noons with the blocks that were in storage. So the concrete
blocks might be worth $200 new to the trade.

That is conservatively half the commercial cost of locating each one by diving
and retrieving with a mooring barge. In any case, had they not been sold to
Santos, and instead remained in their original location with no mooring fees
being paid by Clifford, they would quickly have become town property.
In that fictional case, the cost of retrieving them would make them essentially
worthless, especially as the town does not operate a commercial mooring field
and has limited use for them.

The only reason Clifford raised this matter now is because when the town
installed a number of experimental Helix moorings for private mooring customers,
they removed their old blocks, one of which had Pym # 43 engraved on it, and
dumped them for storage - because they don't have much use for them - at
Macmillan Pier bulkhead where Clifford spotted it and started this craziness.

Clifford then sent a diver into Flyer's mooring fields and, surprise, surprise,
found some blocks with the initials of the defunct business engraved on them.
Just because someone engraved initials on the top of their mooring blocks, does
not make them now the property of any particular person. They were legally
purchased by Flyer's... SEVENTEEN YEARS AGO. Many moorings in this town have
Flyers name on them but that does not make them Flyers property - because we
sold them to private individuals.

At the time of the 1996 investigation, McKinsey had no involvement with the Town
of Provincetown. I have a document that proves the town manager and police chief have in their files all evidence pertaining to this investigation from 1996.
They claim the harbor master's records are a mess yet are referring to records
that go back at least two previous harbor masters before McKinsey. Maybe they
should address their own glass departments before throwing stones.

It is no secret in town that Candice Nagle and Mary Jo Avalar have separately
put exhaustive efforts into overthrowing McKinsey through claims of financial
mismanagement over a period of many years. They scoured Pier Corps records,
and if you know these individuals, you would know they would have found
misdeeds years ago if they existed.
 
Still the town manager is insisting on a costly independent audit of the harbor master's office even though we are addressing a time period that has no
relevance to the incumbent.
Regardless of whom you believe, the statute of limitations has long expired on
an ethics, civil or criminal case. Even the State District Attorneys office and
the police chief recognize that there is no evidence for a criminal case.
 
No town employees were shown this letter so no need for an executive session!
Do your Audit we have been paying for everything.
 
More stupid, expensive, small-town politics with no useful purpose.
 
Hug Your Kids and Enjoy Your Christmas!!!

Yours, Noah Santos,
Vice President
Flyer's Boat Rental Inc.

In charge of all business operations, decisions and dealings since 2009
8:08 pm est 

Some Seem to Conflate Critical Thinking With Dislike of the Town

Re: "Being critical is not based on lack of caring but is driven by a
deep concern for this town"


Bravo! Well said. I am tired of being accused of being a pessimist because I
don't automatically applaud everything that goes on in this town. I've lived
here for a long time and I love this town, but I agree with the previous poster:
not all decisions being made by town hall are good ones and they don't always
have everyone's best interests in mind.

I'm tired of these people with their "love it or leave it" attitude about
Provincetown. This town belongs to ALL OF US. It is our right and our duty as
citizens to question authority when you feel things are being handled poorly. If
you just sit back and agree with every decision made by those in power then you
get what you deserve and trust me, it may not be what you were expecting.
7:57 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

"Being one of the 800 citizens who live here full time .
I will never vote for a police station this size or cost.
I do not want anymore new taxes. I can't afford it!"



At a point some group is going to have be responsible and pay to maintain this
town.  Our parents didn't do it, they let our streets and buildings fall into
disrepair as they lived beyond their means.  Are we going to finish the job or
are we going to kick the can down the road and tell our children they have to do
it?

No doubt Provincetown is an expensive place to live.  If you can't afford to
live here you may want to consider living somewhere else.  I'd rather not see my
taxes increase, but if I make the choice to live here I have a responsibility to
maintain our streets and buidings.  I will NOT dump my responsibility on future
generations.
7:54 pm est 

Noah Santos Article

Nooooooo.  It wasn't "Noah Santos' article in the Banner. It was JOHN
Santos' article in the Banner "signed by" Malcolm Hunter. Lol !!!!! Duh!
7:52 pm est 

Please Post the Noah Santos Letter on Shout Out!

Thanks for the Separate Posting on the Moorings but would you also
post Noah Santos' Letter on the blog as a posting

I would appreciate that. He has the facts and I am so glad he worte this letter.
but I would like everyone to read it, even if they don't separately click on the
notice.

Webmaster Comment: You are correct. Will do.
Thank you for your concern.

Happy Holiday!
7:47 pm est 

Stop the Lack of Maintenance-Stop Being Irresponsible

"I've lived here for over 20 years and at town meeting you get these
locals who vote down spending money to keep things fixed."


Funny, I'v been here about 15 years, and every Town Meeting I'v ever been to
everthing that has to do with spending money gets approved. What did I miss?

A Rat In The Basement
6:01 pm est 

Re: Mooring Investigation Fiasco

I think Noah Santos' article nailed it!

There is more to this mooring issue than meets
the eye.
5:38 pm est 

Re: I Too am Disappointed With the Town Manager

"I'd like a real person with feelings who cares about Provincetown and
its vital issues. This is not what we now have. Tragic, yes. Sad, yes."


You have no idea what you are talking about.  Anyone who knows the Town Manager
knows how much she cares about the town and the countless hours she spends
working with others to make the town a better place.

I'm not looking for a town manager who entertains me or kisses up to the writers
on this blog.  I'm looking for an effective town manager. Who gets the job done. 
That's what we have now.
5:34 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

To the moron who likes to dismiss all comments opposed to the new
police station- you need my suppport. Continuing to bash everyone who may oppose
a new station only makes it worse.
5:27 pm est 

Re: Transparency

Dear all;   If you have facts please state  them instead of pointing
fingers on speculation and rumor.  What specifically is not transparent?  Please
use your name so that people can contact you directly for your ideas and
evidence for the miss deeds you allege here.

May you all have a Merry Christmas and a Safe and Happy New Year!

Larry Higgins
5:24 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

Being one of the 800 citizens who live here full time .
I will never vote for a police station this size or cost.
I do not want anymore new taxes. I can't afford it!

2:36 pm est 

Some Seem to Conflate Critical Thinking With Dislike of the Town

Wrong and wrong again. I like this town but I don't always like how it is
being run or mismanaged.

Being critical is not based on lack of caring but is drive by a deep
concern for this town. Accepting whatever "town hall" does fails to define
someone as caring. such a position involves giving up thinking and going along
with those whose interests are not always the best for the town.

Sometimes "town hall" does what is best for themselves and promotes deals
within the deals that few know the intricate details even though those who know,
know.
2:35 pm est 

Responsible Citizens

We have a fiscal responsibilty to maintain our town buildings.

The DPW building built in the 1950s has more than served its purpose. It is in
terrible shape and we have vehicles that need to be garaged there.

We have a police station that needs to be replaced. Why leave these for our
children to pay for when we need to do it now?

Please stop being so selfish. We need to spend this  money for the good of the
town.
2:31 pm est 

Stop the Lack of Maintenance-Stop Being Irresponsible

I've lived here for over 20 years and at town meeting you get these locals who
vote down spending money to keep things fixed.

Their own houses are a shambles--and they don't care if the school roof leaks
and ruins the building or if the police station failed in every catagory.

They vote down spending money on maintenance and then the next generation has to
pay a fortune.

Please, try to be a serious, conscientious citizen. If you want you own home to
become condemnded, fine, but stop advocating for such continued irresponsbility.
2:30 pm est 

Transparency is Exactly What It Is!

It is openness. It is reality. It is dealing openly with whatever issue is at
hand.

It is not secret. It is not hidden. It is not deceptive.
11:11 am est 

I Too am Disappointed With the Town Manager

She is like an automaton. she is not real. she doesn't seem to have blood in her
veins.

I'd like a real person with feelings who cares about Provincetown and its vital
issues. This is not what we now have. Tragic, yes. Sad, yes.

Reality, unfortunately, yes.
11:09 am est 

Shankpainter Affordable Housing

Evil is as evil does! Stop the maliciousness! Look at the new
affordable places on Shankpainter Rd.alive with Christmas trees and bright
lights sparkling in the windows. That's more beautiful than the big empty hole
that was there before. I don't live there but each time I pump my gas at Cumbies
I think about how happy the tenants must be not having to live the "gypsy life"
of always having to move every spring and fall,or living out of their cars,or
moving in with other people while looking for more affordable nonexistent places
in summer because greedy landlords double or triple their rents for the summer.
That's not democratic. It's hypocracy and yet you knock Fox News because you
think it's slanted! Hello out there! Happy Holidays to all and good health in
the new year to appreciate what we do have.
11:07 am est 

Re: New Police Station

I've read it all. I've really read it all. You will make it your
"MISSION to make sure a new police station isn't built"???  Holy crap, you really,
REALLY, are a sad person. I feel sorry for you. You really should think about
moving. You're in the wrong community.
11:03 am est 

Re: New Police Station

Do you just pull numbers out of your rear?  You now have decided the
police station cost is $20m?

To be honest part of me hopes you get your wish and a police station doesn't get
built.  I hope the police unions sue the town for the unsafe working conditions
and it ends up costing the town millions of dollars.  This town and the bitter,
nasty people on this blog will get what they deserve.  I'll have moved on by
then so it doesn't matter to me.
11:01 am est 

Assault Weapon

Got this off Wiki:

Assault weapon is a term which has been given many different meanings. In common
parlance, the term is used to describe any of various automatic and
semi-automatic military firearms utilizing an intermediate-power cartridge and
is frequently conflated with assault rifle (a firearm with full-automatic
capability). Unlike the term assault rifle, however, the term 'assault weapon'
has no consistent or specific definition and is, therefore, subject to varying
definitions for varying purposes, including definitions that include common
non-military firearms. In the United States, there is a variety of statutory
definitions of assault weapons in local, state, and federal laws that define
them by a set of characteristics they possess, sometimes described as
military-style features useful in combat. Using lists of physical features or
specific firearms in defining assault weapons in the U.S. was first codified by
the language of the now-expired 1994 Federal Assault Weapons Ban.

Clearly, we don't have a definite item we want off the streets. That, to me, is
the crux of the problem. We don't even know what we're regulating. "I can't
describe it, but when I see one, I'll know" type attitude doesn't cut it.
10:59 am est 

Re: The NRA Solution is Ridiculous and Off-Base


First, what law or restriction wasn't enforced that allowed the guns shootings
at Newtown, Columbine, the movie theatre and the Giffords incidents happen? What
law or restiction needs to be strengthened? Or do you mean the laws on the books
need to be more strongly enforced??
Second, what makes a weapon an assault weapon? I honestly don't know what the
definition of an assault weapon is. I can assault you with a single shooter and
also a multishot rifle. What makes a gun an assault weapon?
And no, I'm not in support of the NRAs solution, no I don't agree that videos
and games make kids do these crimes, I'm not a member of the NRA or GOAL and
yes, I do own a number of guns, no pistols, and I am licensed to own and carry a
handgun if I choose.
10:57 am est 

Friday, December 21, 2012

Re: Read the Facts

"Transparency is just not there. I wish it were but...."


What do you think you should see that you aren't seeing?
6:28 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

I will make it my mission to see that a new police station is not
built. The current station needs to be revamped. The chief of police or his
minion needs to stop posting reasons for spending 20 million dollars of our tax
money.
6:26 pm est 

The NRA Solution is Ridiculous and Off-Base

Their solution is to put more guns in people's hands. Granted it would be police
officers but to have them armed at every school. Instead of banning some assualt
rifles, this is what they come up with? Time for the NRA to be considered what
it is: a threat to life for so many of us and a proponent for the manufacturers
of guns. They blame everything else in society except themselves. They have been
irresponsible and continue to be.
3:59 pm est 

Re: Read the Facts

I can't find Transparency in this Administration
It may only be what I see but I find more secrecy at town hall. Keith surely was
not the most open person in his position but it seems his legacy is what has
been past down and preserved. Transparency is just not there. I wish it were
but....
3:54 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Site

Re: "I refuse to pay for a new police station. Either the town rebuilds
on the current site or don't build at all. I will vote no for a new police station,
period."


Just take a moment and re-read your statement.  It appears you refuse to vote
for a police station, then you will vote for if it's a new building on the 
current site, then you won't vote for it, period.  No wonder town leaders ignore
your rants, they don't make sense.

I don't understand the babbling of those who insist a new police station needs
to be on the existing site.  What is the emotional tie to the current site?  Do
you think it will cost less?  Guess what - it won't.  Add up the cost to have
the building re-designed to fit on the existing site, add up the cost to
construct a temporary space for a couple of years while the cuurent building is
torn down and the new building is constructed.  And finally add in the
approximately $1M we could get for the current property by vacating that space
and it won't be cheaper to rebuild on the current site.

I can't see the logic.  I read Ms. Rushmore's letter in the Banner and her
numbers are not correct so what's the emotional attachment to the Shank Painter
site?
12:46 pm est 

Re: Read the Facts

Dear person who wrote "Read the Facts",
You're right, this town IS on the right track. It's finally going through a
period of taking care of necessary projects and running a town system with
transparency. It has been met with the ugliness you speak of, but don't worry. 
Its a very small group. It took a long time for town govt to become so
dysfunctional and it will take time to get back to where EVERY town should be.
Step by step, department by department, the town is moving in the right
direction. Those here on this blog that rant and slander the TM have most likely
lost their town jobs and even their credibility. They aren't necessarily bad
people, just bitter.  The lesson is this - doesn't matter if you're a townie or
you've worked for the town for decades, everyone must do their jobs in the best
interest of the town you work for.  It's simple and very reasonable. And by the
way, you can't terminate anyone these days just because you don't like them. 
It's always and should be about job performance.
11:12 am est 

Re: Play by the Rules?

".  .  . She should never have been selected but it was a sexual
preference decision that does not justify ignorance and lack of voice.  .  ."


And then there are statements like this that belie any common sense.
10:46 am est 

Rejecting the Town

Why are you living such a miserable life here when you can move?

You don't like our town government, our newspaper, our streets.

I've met people like you in my travels. From Maui to Maine when I've sojoured
there. What they  and you don't realize is that the path in life that you have
chosen is a miserable one that leaves you angry, bitter and unfulfilled and your
aeresol spray of discontent is getting sprayed in every section of your life.

Your youth is gone; working summers only and under the table has left you and
summers only has left you scrambling every day and desperate for affordable
housing.

Get help changing your outlook. I worked with people like you 25 years ago--and
kept you at arms length...and you are still here with the same attitude. You
have one life and look how you are living it. You must be 60 years old
now---again, what a pity.
10:44 am est 

The Advocate

The Advocate was driven into the ground by Duane Steele wasn't it and
the owner of the banner tossed him a life line?                                
                                                                                           
10:41 am est 

Re: Play by the Rules?

Some poster who claims "sorrow for peoples loss of jobs,but it's their
own doing" didn't know what they're talking about. It must have been here-say!
Other wise they would know abuse of time runs rampant in Town Hall. If they were
all penalized there'd be no staff left at all,including the Town Manager.
 
The difference is some are given preferential treatment i.e. continual 
lateness, early leave, extended flex time, abuse of sick leave, additional personal
and vacation times, while a few are penalized. Depends on who you are,who you
know,or what insider incriminating info you know!

This is fact not fiction! Stop playing CYOA (cover you own a--s).
10:39 am est 

New Police Station Site

I refuse to pay for a new police station. Either the town rebuilds on
the current site or don't build at all. I will vote no for a new police station,
period.
10:23 am est 

Harbor Master etc.

The situation regarding the mapping of the mooring fields is a reg flag.

The harbor master getting a lawyer from Boston when he contends that it is prior
to his employment--another red flag.

The authorities wouldn't proceed if they didn't have cause.

As a taxpayer--I want things right and proper and the money that belongs to the
town go into our town coffers.
10:22 am est 

The Reality of Our Police Station and DPW Buildings

A panel of experts examined the police station; go and read their report. It
failed in every catagory and then some.

Concerned citizens were appointed to a buildign committee and you can see the
restults of their study. Listen to Ms. Shiela M. talk about the mats on the wet
floor and having to pull down an attic stair case to get to the records.

Twice sewage backed up int he  police station. This building is used 24 hrs a
day 7 days a week.

Why not let our children go to a school in this condition? If we did, it would
be a scandal..but it is ok for our police Officers?

What is so sad is that some of our town leaders are keeping blinders on
regarding needed projects and this is very sad for the town.
10:20 am est 

Read the Facts

The dept of Revenue finally gave us a clean bill of health; we were the only
town on the cape being monitored.

We made the tough decision to close down a high school with only a few dozen
students.

We will sell outdated buildings that have outlived their usefullness.

Our Town Leaders are thinking outside the box: looking at new uses for
buildings, sealing the high school building from the elements; refurbish town
hall and the library; cleaning up the pier and giving us a brand new street.

How sad that there are people living here with only meanness in their soul. I
shudder to think of the sad lives that they must be living railing against all
that is being accomplished and that is attempted to be accomplished.
10:18 am est 

Thursday, December 20, 2012

Re: New Police Station

"What credence do you give a person with such an ignorant response? A
building committee examined everything with a magnifying glass and said that the
current police station is a tear down."


Every so often a post appears on this blog that gives the impression that there
may be people with common sense in this town.  This was one of those posts. 
Thanks.
11:55 pm est 

The Banner Has Become a Fox News Rag

It holds its own biases and should not. Whatever Sharon says, it's the truth
with this group.

What about objective reporting? Isn't that what a newspaper should be? Not this
regurgitated muck that passes as news.

A tragedy. Bring back the Advocate and I'd feel so much better. I'd get to know
somethign of what is really happening, not this mucky reporting.
11:52 pm est 

Re: Play by the Rules?

What are You Smoking?

Sharon Lynn playing by the rules and standing up for us? Who is the us? she is
standing up for her retirement and her salary but has little concern for this
town. she believes she is above this town and she is using this town for her own
advantage. She should never have been selected but it was a sexual preference
decision that does not justify ignorance and lack of voice.

Let her go. Say goodbye and on to your retirement that we are funding. That is
the best I can hope for.

The town needs someone who really cares about all of us and who has the ability
to lead this town in new and inventive ways. This is not who is there now. Even
if Ann McQuire props her up and props her up as does a few others politico
types, she is a failure.

11:51 pm est 

New Police Station

What credence do you give a person with such an ignorant response? A building
committee examined everything with a magnifying glass and said that the current
police station is a tear down.

The police station was examined by a panel of experts and it failed in every
catagory.

Why not put a family of four in a studio apartment? Watch PTV--you are only
showing what kind of people spend their time on the blog. People who won't face
facts.

9:38 pm est 

Wednesday, December 19, 2012

Re: Town Manager & Police Chief

To the previous       , I mean blogger, do you really think the Pier
issue is because the Town Manager and the Chief want to "get a super duper
police station"? Holy sh#%, you're really not very bright. You're just bitter.
11:27 pm est 

New Provincetown Police Station

Why can't 2 million dollars be spent on the existing police station to
bring it up to par? If a new police station is built 15-20 million will be the
final price tag.
11:25 pm est 

Town Manager & Police Chief

They Will Obviously do Anything--and I Mean Anything--to Get the
Police Department They Want

Shame of Sharon and Jeff--just like              to get the super duper police
station. and if anyone is in their way? Mow them down. There stands Grassy and
Rex. Mow them down. How dare them go against Sharon and Jeff. Call in the
towel-wraped Disrict Attorney and then let the allegations fly.

How shameful that these two believe they can do anything to get their way.
7:21 pm est 

Backbone? Sharon?

Please, she is the leading the pack to serve her own interests. She wants Rex
out of there and will any "investigation" to get her way. she shold be ashamed
of her behavior. It is despicable. she should be reprimanded if not thrown out
of office for this one. It is vile.
7:18 pm est 

Whackiness Runs Rampant

She is starting what group? a group against hatred? Candance whatever her last
name is proposing what? Isn't she the one who started that blog of hatred? How
whacky.
6:30 pm est 

Town Manager + BOS

Hatred spread by the Town Manager and some on the BOs should be
Investigated

They are not working for us. They are working for their own narrow special
interests. and to get what they want, they attack key people working for this
town. Where is Darlene? What are they doing to Rex? Why are they falsely
attacking Erik? For what reason are they hounding Santos?

This is like a possey going after mirages. They are dangerous and their actions
are those of sick and quite dangerous people. They should be monitored. They are
not stable.
6:29 pm est 

For Those Supposedly Fghting Against Hatred

Try to silence yourself. You have been the worse at hate, slander and
disrespect. The group you're founding should be funding counseling for you. You
are a rather sad puppy in need of serious help.
6:26 pm est 

Re: McMillan Wharf Private Fiefdom?

Wasn't there some bait and switch pier accounting putting the revenues
from the moorings on the pier corporation's accounting books to puff up their
bottom line five years or so ago? Why didn't they look deeper at that time and
do the forensic accounting? What has taken so long?
6:23 pm est 

Provincetown Harbormaster

To who ever wrote that the pier "requires a harbormaster --someone who
has marine knowledge, is boat savvy and can monitor the harbor":
You couldn't have possibly meant our current Harbormaster !!!!! His record meets 
non of your criteria.
4:58 pm est 

Re: Sharon Lynn-Why Not Provide Dynamic Leadership Sharon?

Let me get this straight, you think the town manager should be
reprimanded?? Bahahahahahaha! That's funny!! You should be grateful if you're a
tax payer in this town, live an honest life and play by the rules.  Because if
you do, she's whose standing up for you. We all have to play by the same set of
rules. If you're a town employee, I as a Ptown taxpayer expect you to serve your
job in the interest of the town.  NOT hiding behind smoke and mirrors, and
letting things slide by or go unchecked.  The only behavior that shouldn't be
tolerated anymore is coming from the buddy system down on the harbor.
4:55 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Harbor Mooring

There is a no place for Hate group in town. Why are such terrible statements
about our town manager and the police chief allowed to be posted here?

Sticking to the facts is one things..but name calling and derogatory remarks
because you disagree with them about something shouldn't be allowed.
2:05 pm est 

The Harbor is Not the Place For Guns
 
It requires a harbormaster--someone who has marine knowledge, is boat savvy and
can monitor the harbor. The role of guns should be secondary.

I don't want to see harbormasters and assistants slinging guns as they walk the
pier. This is surely not what we need nor want in this town. This is not fulton
pier!

Additionally, it is not how we should be greeting visitors. Warm welcomes and
gongenial people are what we need.
2:04 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Moorings-Shoddy Investigation

To the blogger wondering about The chief's education. Simple enough to
find out. I looked. He graduated with a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice.
He also attended the FBI Academy (pretty coveted - something like only 4% of law
enforcement  in the entire country are accepted) and the chief use to work
undercover directly with State Attorney General's office for over a decade.  I
say he's well-qualified.
2:01 pm est 

Re: Sharon Lynn-Why Not Provide Dynamic Leadership Sharon?

The Person Who Should be Reprimanded is Our Town Manager

this moorings escapade has been so poorly handled that it reflects poorly on
her. she is alleging criminal actions when at worse it would be civil. she has
been town manager for many years and only now--yes only now--she is
investigating the mooring fields! and then it is she who calls in the District
Attorney General--our guy with a towel over his hps while being intereviewed on
the Christa Worthington murder.

What a cast of characters. You can't make this up but still and importantly,
town officials should never use their power to undermine and falsely accuse a
harbormaster and a standing selectman of criminal behavior.

Why didn't she investigate the past actions on these so-called missing morrings?
Why didn't she amass all the facts and all the records--some that are in her
office--before publicly damaging the reputation of the harbormaster and the
reputation of a sellectman.

It is Sharon Lynn's behavior that raise serious questions and deserve an
investigation. On this point, she has failed to act reasonably and has damaged
the reputation of two key people in two key positions in Provincetown.

I am offended by her actions and feel she should apologize to both Rex McKenzie
and John Santos. She was more than wrong. Her own actions were malicious and
slanderous. the shame rests on her.
1:59 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Harbor Mooring

If Santos didn't pay for them, well then pony up with accrued interest
attached. I estimate over $100,000 in new revenue for town coffers.
1:56 pm est 

Super Duo!

To the poster claiming shoddy investigation work by Lynn and Jaren, I
suggest you wait a bit. Their work has only just begun.  The outside, highly
trained maritime auditors and State Ethics Commission will be providing lots of
insight and expertise to move this probe along its rightful path. Your post is
quite telling of who you are, - "What kind of investigation was being done that
the Chief and Lynn didn't even look in their own records. WTF." You are quite
naive if you really believe that. It's called "baiting".
1:52 pm est 

Re: Sharon Lynn-Why Not Provide Dynamic Leadership Sharon?

Re: "Why not empower town employees instead of firing them and making
them fear reprisals. Change your ways.  .  ."


If it ain't broke, don't fix it.  Sharon has assembled an excellent staff in our
town, the town should be very proud of their staff.  There were a few that
needed to go, most are gone and the remaining staff are better off for it.

As a taxpayer I applaud her actions.  I don't want to be paying for staff that
are not doing their jobs, that's wasting my money.  Some staff members
apparently felt because they had worked for the town for a number of years that
they were entitled to special treatment or that the rules did not apply to them.

I'm sorry for anyone who loses a job, but if an employee comes to work each day
and on time and if they do their job, they are still working for the town.  For
those that didn't they most likely brought it on themselves.
1:50 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Harbor Moorings

People, the only fools are us. Us for not holding the Pier Corp and
our harbor master accountable for running a tight ship on the pier. If you think
for one minute that Santos perfectly legitimately acquired 40 moorings with cash
(that's a lot of dough) and has limited recollection of specifics AND Rex
McKinsey claims he was unaware of any of this because he wasn't harbor master at
the time, I suggest you all think back WHO Rex worked for dating back to 1995.
Yup, Flyer's. Time to clean up the harbor on behalf of those of us that have to
pay taxes in this town and play by the rules! No more smoke and mirrors on the
Pier.
1:46 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Harbor Moorings

Everyone should take a breath and let the process play out regarding
the pier. What's happening now should've been done long ago but was thwarted by
the powers to be AT THE TIME.  Thankfully, times have changed and we have a Town
Manager that knows what's right and what's wrong; what's in the best interest
for the town and what's not, - AND she has the backbone to stand up on it. The
TM is going to bring in OUTSIDE investigators and maritime auditors who are
highly skilled in the allegations that are swirling around our harbor. The
District Attorney has forwarded this all up to the State Ethics Commission as
well. This is NOT a criminal matter but certainly looks to be ethically very
misguided. These types of favors and back door politics have got to be a thing
of the past. Transparency by us tax payers is finally being demanded. The TM and
the chief are doing due diligence with professionalism. Those that spout
differently have personal axes to grind with them. It!
's perfectly "transparent" who you are.
1:44 pm est 

Re: Sharon Lynn-Why Not Provide Dynamic Leadership Sharon?

Re: "Why not energize the town and lead in dynamic ways. Why not
empower town employees instead of firing them and making them fear reprisals."



Because she's a cop and that's how she operates.
12:13 pm est 

Super Duo!

I must say I feel so comfortable with Jeff Jaren and Sharon leading
the way to make our pier a more safer and well managed place. With all the years
of living on the water and all the years of being around a public pier the two
of them have (must be like what 5 maybe 6)  they should know exactly what should
be taking place on this pier of ours...just look at the way they handle things
now...employees banging in for 2 weeks but making it to each pool tournement to
party like a rock star..asst mgnrs going behind closed doors to figure out how
to get more time off for employees,  Oh the thing s those two can do  all they
need is a cape and we will all be so safe
10:44 am est 

Provincetown Moorings-Shoddy Investigation

What kind of investigation was being done that the Chief and Lynn
didn't even look in their own records.  WTF.  The proof is on  Santos? What [kind] of 
criminal education did Jaran [have]? Shame on the 2 highest paid employees acting in
such an unprofessional manner.
10:40 am est 

Re: Purchasing Guns

Just to be clear on the automatic/semiautomatic issue.
Automatic means a machine gun style gun, pull the trigger once and all the
bullets shoot, one after another. Those weapons do need a special license to
have them and the license is not easy to obtain. Only valid collectors and
police get them usually. Semiautomatic means one pull of the trigger, one bullet
shoots until the gun is empty. Many hunting guns, (shotguns) use this type of
action and yes, they are used for hunting, duck hunting and deer hunting for
instance. But those guns usually have a limit of 5 rounds in the gun. Any gun
that holds over 5 rounds is considered a large capacity gun, that means 6
shooters like the old western guns and almost all new pistols and handguns.
Essentially, all pistols and handguns are semiautomatic large capacity weapons.
And yes, you need a special license for a handgun, large capacity or not.
10:31 am est 

Re: Provincetown Moorings

As for the moorings that the Ken Kinkor is looking for.  According to
the towns mooring by-laws any mooring not renewed and paid for on an annual
basis is relinquished and any or all mooring equipment becomes the property of
the town of Provincetown.


Yes, they are the property of the town of Provincetown.  So please explain how
Santos 'received' them.  And if you are going to say he bought them please show
evidence, any evidence at all, that he purchased them.

Santos may get out of this one because of the poor record keeping at the pier,
but I doubt he will be proven innocent.                                                        
                                                      how can that be?
10:29 am est 

McMillan Wharf Private Fiefdom?

It seems that the wharf is the private fiefdom of the pier corps and the
Harbormaster is its king.

The pier corps refuses to countenance any criticism and banishes anyone who
tries to shine a light upon wrongdoings at the pier.

I watched the pier corps hearing on PTV and listened as one its members raved
about the qualities of their king. Even the town manager, police chief and the
chair of the selectmen didn't get them to look at the goings on at the pier.

Your reign is about to end, your majesty. Experienced maritime auditors who can
see through fluff and bluster must descend upon the "books" and discover what
the facts are and where the truth lies.

The entire operation has blatant wrongs and people were fired or citizens
ignored when they went before the pier corps with evidence of wrong doing.

Now they are all vindicated.
10:26 am est 

Sharon Lynn-Why Not Provide Dynamic Leadership Sharon?

Why not energize the town and lead in dynamic ways. Why not empower town
employees instead of firing them and making them fear reprisals. Change your
ways. Mend your ways. Time to seize the strength you might have within you and
lead this town. Forget this petty business you are involved in.

Do what is right for the town and the town will be a better place for such true
leadership.

Isn't it time?
12:47 am est 

Nancy Drew and the Missing Moorings

This is nothing more than an adolescent story being told by town hall, some of
the Selectmen and Jeff Jaran. Here is a mystery. Now we "discovered" thirty five
moorings missing. Theft. Robbers. Criminals.

Nancy Drew to the case. On the serach for the "missing" moorings and all the
intrigue being created to this adolescent story.

Maybe it's more Bobsy Twins at the Beach!
12:46 am est 

Santos Does Not Need to Stand Down

He is not under criminal investigation and I don't think civil. what he did
happened many years ago and those moorings were sold to him. Blame the town for
not knowing what in the world is happening in town waters. That is where we need
to look. and why now? did someone wake up a town hall, someone in the corner
office, and say: oh, there are mooring missings? After eighteen years, you'd
think someone would have raised these questions a long time back.


This is a vindictive attack against John Santos and Rex. This is the attemmpt of
town manager to get rid of Rex, enlarge the police presence at the pier and if
she can get rid of Santos, it would be a triple win for her.

However, Santos is her boss, not the other way around.
12:44 am est 

Truth be Told = Provincetown Harbor Moorings

The dispute over the defunct mooring field offshore of the breakwater
was addressed by the previous Town Manager Keith Bergman and then Police Chief
Robert Anthony. This is covered in a memorandum of August 29, 1996. In this, the
false claims by Clifford could never be established.

Here is a quote from David Ditacchio, then Marine Superintendent (harbor master)
September 5, 1996: 

"Since Clifford and or Lazier now claim ownership of 40
moorings in Provincetown Harbor, they should be advised immediately that the
records of the Marine Superintendent contain no evidence that permits required
by local and state law have been applied for or issued with respect to the 40
mooring and, further, that the records of the Marine Superintendent reflect that
no fee has been paid by the PYM for the privilege of maintaining 40 moorings in
Provincetown Harbor as required by local law."

Long before Rex Was ever a town employee.

I guess the Pier Corps records aren't the only ones in question.
12:42 am est 

Provincetown Harbormaster

JUST THE FACTS

Let us all read the article in the cape cod times. For years there have been
questions about he harbormaster.

                                                                                         .

Years ago there were questions about procedures at the pier.

It is time to fire the harbormaster. Poorly kept books and subterfuge and a loss
of town revenues equals immediate dismissal.
12:37 am est 

Pier Corporation Oversight

"weren't the Selectmen charged by the Finance Committee for not
properly overseeing MacMillan Pier and harbor just a few years ago?"


Oh yea, that was when Mary Jo was a Selectman.
12:34 am est 

Re: Purchasing Guns

Just a thought I wanted to express.

Automatic and semi-automatic guns were produced for one purpose alone, to act as
guns on steroids.  These guns are not used in hunting or self-defense.

I'm confused.  In Mass. to apply for a handicapped parking placard you have to
produce a professional, medical evaluation and opinion deeming the need is
valid.  To purchase an automatic or semi-automatic gun, no such rule exists.  If
these gun enthusiasts have to have their auto and semi-autos, maybe they should
have to produce a valid, professional, medical evaluation stating they need them
and why.

Just a thought.
12:32 am est 

Re: Provincetown Harbor Moorings

                                                                                                            
                                                                        

As for the moorings that the Ken Kinkor is looking for.  According to the towns
mooring by-laws any mooring not renewed and paid for on an annual basis is
relinquished and any or all mooring equipment becomes the property of the town
of Provincetown.
12:29 am est 

Re: Habormaster

FIRE THE HARBORMASTER

What is it going to take? Duane steele was talking about this a few years ago at
town meeting. Wasn't there a motion to take the pier back from the pier corps?

Poor record keeping. Money that should be going to the town--where is it going?

Lets hope that the audit starts post haste.
12:26 am est 

Re: Questions

And now to the other town scandal. . .

The VFW sold $450,000 in lottery tickets in a year?  How can that be?
12:24 am est 

Re: Questions
 
How is it someone with two OUI convictions is still allowed to drive?

Given the circumstances, one might argue it was only a matter of time until
another accident would happen.

What is even more troublesome is how someone with not one, but two criminal
convictions on his driving record, is empowered to make decisions on behalf of
the town. That speaks volumes...

Don't blame the person(s) who served him or sold him a bottle. It's the fault of
everyone who contributed. Including the people who elected him.

I hope the same compassion shown to the former police chief is shown to the
selectman. Perhaps it already has?

Cheers!


12:22 am est 

Tuesday, December 18, 2012

Re: Provincetown Harbor Moorings

To the previous poster, the only one citing criminal offenses is you.
Article clearly states Chief Jarran found no evidence of criminal offenses. That
finding was supported by Atty General's office too. Read more carefully.
1:45 pm est 

Harbor Mooring - Board of Selectmen Lack of Oversight

If I remember correctly, weren't the Selectmen charged by the Finance
Committee for not properly overseeing MacMillan Pier and harbor just a few years
ago?
1:43 pm est 

Moorings

Lets go back to the way back machine and figure this one out. Prior to Kincor,
the owner of the wharf was Joe McNeil. Did he sell the moorings to Santos? Maybe
the person in town hall that used to date Joe can shed some light if she
remembers anything. Then we have the harbormaster prior to Rex, Ray Duarte. Has
anyone contacted him to find anything in his memory? And perhaps his other half
in town hall might have a recollection about any pertinent facts. And if it
happened as Santos says, 17 years ago, is that perhaps when a transition was
going on at the wharf? Maybe during the transition, when nobody was looking ....

The facts are out there.
1:41 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Harbor Moorings

Re: The attempt to cite criminal offenses for the questions raised
about the moorings is false and worse than misleading. Get the facts straight.
If anyone should be investigated it's the town managers who never investigated
issues around the Pier Crop when raised years ago.

1. Blame it on the town managers, that's good.
2. Put blame on everyone else to deflect investigation.
3. Blame it on previous Selectmen who let it happen.
4. If no truth to the newspaper stories, hire lawyer to sue newspaper for
defamation.

The District Attorney pretty much said this smells fishy,  I agree.

Selectmen Santos should 'stand down' in the interim while this investigation
runs the course.  His credibility is currently zero.
1:38 pm est 

Articles Against Santos and McKinsey Biased and Wrong

The attempt to cite criminal offenses for the questions raised about the
moorings is false and worse than misleading. Get the facts straight. If anyone
should be investigated it's the town managers who never investigated issues
around the Pier Crop when raised years ago. Now they are concerned? Now they
want answers? what were they doing before? and answers to what?

There is no criminal issue and that should be made clear in the articles being
published.
11:23 am est 

Provincetown Harbor Moorings

How many other abandoned moorings are there over the years besides the
Whydah's which would have belonged to the Town and then sold as surplus? My
guess is there is no record at the harbormasters office either for other
abandoned moorings that rightfully belonged to the Town.

We want answers and finally it looks like we may get them.
11:01 am est 

Re: Questions

CCTimes reporting on two selectmen (2 separate articles today)
- one from Ptown and the other from Truro. Looks like the answer to the previous
poster, that Truro selectman Gary Palmer will be accorded the same protocol as
everyone else.  Third DUI.

As for Ptown Selctmen Santos, looks like there's some serious violations that
occurred in the past, and he's back peddling now. Show the proof. Burden is on
Flyer's. I'm predicting records will show that Grassy didn't have receipts of
purchasing seval thousand dollars worth moorings EVEN way back then.  Can you
say "slight of hand"?  Hmmmmmm.. The deal reeked
10:08 am est 

Monday, December 17, 2012

Questions

When a Selectman gets in a motor vehicle accident, is the same
protocol implemented?

We will find out......
11:19 pm est 

Re: Hunter O'Hanian?

Since when is this guy some expert on gun violence and gun control? Ban all
guns? Flat out? Just ban them all regardless of reason for ownership? Would that
also mean guns used legally for hunting purposes? Does Hunter understand the
impact banning guns would do to the management of wildlife nationwide that
hunters do each year? Does he understand the monetary impact banning guns would
have? The tax revenue, the hunting licenses, money spent by hunters to preserve
open lands and all the money spent nation wide surrounding hunting? How about
personal protection when the police aren't around? Seconds matter when the cops
are minutes away. Gun ownership by law abiding people doesn't contibute to gun
violence. By comparison, should we ban knives after someone goes on a rampage
with a knife? What should we do when a person uses their vehicle to run down
people in a crowd? Ban cars? How about if someone throws a molitov cocktail
through a window? Ban gasoline? Knee jerk reactions !
aren't what we need.
11:18 pm est 

O'Hanian is wrong

A complete ban of weapon ownership will NOT stop these types of incedents from
happening. It will INCREASE their occurance. Law abiding people don't commit the
crimes. Take away their guns and weapons, often used to DEFEND themselves, and
you will only have criminals with guns, the ones that don't abide by the law
anyway and often use their illegally gotten guns to commit the crimes the law
abiding indiviuals defend against. Nobody has guns to defend themselves and the
criminals will kill anyone they want. Think it won't or doesn't happen? Look at
the 3rd world countries, happens every day.
The answer is to STRICTLY enforce the laws we have. Federal laws and state laws
are in place. To get a gun license, you go to your local police department for
the application and they submit it for review and hopefull issuance. But it's
also at the local police department level that control has to be administered.
Why would a local police department, knowing the applicant, allow the
application to proceed without warning from that department to the issuing
authority to perhaps not issue the license? Too often second amendtment issues
are used as a crutch when public safety should be the focus. No fault of the
local cops but I'm sure we all know people in town and in the area that
shouldn't have a gun of any type. THE CURRENT LAWS ARE NOT BEING UPHELD AND THEY
CAN BE WITH VERY LITTLE DUE DILLIGENCE MAKING US ALL SAFER.
11:15 pm est 

Re: Police in the School

Since the Police Chief has come to town, he has not been a believer in the Dare
Program. He also reduced the Dare Officer time at the School. Since the
Youth/Dare Officer retired he has done nothing to make sure an Officer is
trained to handle the problems within the School. Do you really think the latest
unfortunate events in Newton Conn are going to change his thinking about our
School. If he was as good as he is about getting rid of people that work for him
and applied that energy and time towards the School, we would have one of the
safest Schools on the Cape.
11:07 pm est 

Hunter O'Hanian Commentary

Thank You for Posting Hunter O'Hanian's Comments

And thank you Hunter for your eloquent and passionate response to the Newtown
killings. Thank you for speaking out and thanks to the blog for letting us know
your important words on this mass killing.
1:49 pm est 

The Value of Shout Out!

I Read the Blog to Know what is Happening Here and What People are
Thinking

and I find it is more accurate than the delayed-news sometimes-news Banner. I
hear people's concerns here and I value that.

That it seems there are a few who want to blame the blog and put it down I
believe they are afraid of hearing what people really believe. This town is not
being run as well as it should. It is not that complicated it is a town--not a
metropolitan area.

I value those who provide their ideas and suggestions and I'm glad this forum
exists. It is not the only forum but an important one.
1:46 pm est 

Police on the Pier

Is there a plan to bring cruise ships into the harbor?
Is that what the police on the pier is about?
12:58 pm est 

Police on the Pier But Not in the School?

Can someone tell me why it's so important to have police officers on the pier
but there are no officers in our school? One of the first things Chief Jaran did
when he arrived here was to take the officer out of the schools. Prior to his
arrival our Police Dept. and School Dept. worked together for several years to
increase security in our schools. The officers and the school staff were trained
at length and the teachers worked with the children too. All to make sure that
we kept our kids safe. Now all of that is out the window. Why? In light of
recent events how can our Chief justify this?
11:38 am est 

Re: Entertainment Value

Yes I read this Blog for entertainment--I watch PTV for the the real movers and
shakers in this town.

You reach a few regulars here on the blog.

Meanwhile, the article about the meeting skipping, texting selectmen and the
letter to editor is being read by thousands from Ptown to Wellfleet and all of
the folks at home away from home who subscribe to the banner.
11:36 am est 

Re: It's Entertainment

"They also pointed out that the posters on the blog don't even have a
strong enough conviction of their thoughts that they are willing be identified."
 
.  .


I read this blog about once a week at most for entertainment value.  While it
can be entertaining it is also very depressing.  Very depressing when one
realizes a blog that could be used for good dialogue by citizens is instead
being used for the promotion of an agenda by a few individuals.  And those who
disagree with the agenda have their comments censored or they are attacked on
this blog.

There was a time when I thought the majority of people in this town were working
towards making the town a better place.  This blog appears to represent a vocal
minority who have other priorities.   Actions are being taken for financial gain
and/or as part of a vendetta.  It's a sad reflection on this town.
11:29 am est 

Sunday, December 16, 2012

It's Entertainment

There's A LOT I read but DON'T believe. Particularly on this blog.
It's more for the entertainment value than anything else.
10:39 pm est 

Re: It's Propaganda

"Knew that would come up.  Why don't you lead by example and be the
first to sign"


You are the one with the problem about anonymity, and raised it as an issue. 
Therefore, it's you that should sign your posts, darling.
10:36 pm est 

Re: It's Propaganda

Yet they still read it... regularly!

6:40 pm est 

Re: It's Propaganda

Absolutely agree, this little monster is the refuge of a group of aging losers
who have little or no control over their pathetic wrecks of lives and created
this to feel empowered. They have no logical response to alternate views so they
simply delete them. They are petty people who take refuge in a petty pretend
world where they anonymously write back and forth to each other. Fortunately the
voters in town rarely agree with them and they have little or no power though
their mouthpiece Avellar is doing what she can to again wreck the town.
5:48 pm est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

Re: Who is the stakeholder when it comes to complaining about Mr.
Rogovsky?

Duh, and who is Rogocop the mouthpiece for?
5:46 pm est 

Re: Bill Dougal

Glad to hear Bill Dougal hasn't moved away; he's been a valued citizen
in Provincetown and has served on many boards and committees. Having seen
evidence of his work ethic over many years, I'm surprised that he retired if he
was supposed to stay on for another year.
5:43 pm est 

To: Fellow Residents

Commercial St is being repaved as a million dollar project.  The current section
from Ryder to the Post Office has barricades up and should not be driven on
until Monday when it is fully set.  Yet, some of you are either so stupid or so
lazy that you think it's OK to move the barricades and drive it.

Stupid or lazy, which is it?
5:42 pm est 

Sharon Lynn Puppet Master

The puppet master is Sharon Lyn and the puppets are the selectman.  If
they don't agree the Chief Jarren attacks them in the Newspaper.  Rex, Grassy
and Erik.  Dont cross them or you will be next.  Jarren needs to go and this
town desirves better.  Stop the spending I'm sick of footing the bill.
5:41 pm est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

Sharon Lynn and Jeff Jaran could prance down Commercial St  kicking
puppies and Michael Rokovsky would defend them. His opinion means nothing.
5:39 pm est 

Re: Harbormaster Rex and the Greater Plan

To the ignorant who stated that the police station and the probe into
the mooring fields are connected because the chief is looking to build a new
station, you are simply a grumpy      . Just like the person who said the chief
has forced out 16 - 17 officers!  BS!
5:36 pm est 

Re: It's Propaganda

".  .  . why didn't you sign your name when you posted here?  Not too
swift, complain about anonymous posts, when you yourself are anonymous."


Knew that would come up.  Why don't you lead by example and be the first to sign
your name?

I spoke to a reasonably high level person in this town and asked them if they
read or paid attention to this blog.  Their response was that they do not read
or pay attention to this blog.  I asked them why and was given two reasons.
They realized early on that this blog was being used by the blog master to
further his personal agenda and is evidenced by his censorship of opposing
positions.
They also pointed out that the posters on the blog don't even have a strong
enough conviction of their thoughts that they are willing be identified.  The
person said they thought of them as cowards hiding behind their computer.  That
isn't the way government works.
5:32 pm est 

Saturday, December 15, 2012

It's Propaganda

I really wish someone would start an alternative blog like this one. A
blog that would actually print opinions that the controller of this blog
censors.

This is not free speech, it's propaganda. Pure and simple. Print submissions
that further your own agenda and stifle those you disagree with. Shame on you.
4:45 pm est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

Who is the stakeholder when it comes to complaining about Mr.
Rogovsky? Just pick up this week's paper. It's obvious who is attacking him
here.
4:43 pm est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

"I have more respect for him than any of the anonymous attackers on
this blog."

Since you are impressed with people who sign their names whenever they express
their opinions, why didn't you sign your name when you posted here?  Not too
swift, complain about anonymous posts, when you yourself are anonymous.
2:48 pm est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky-Police

It's easier to sign one's name supporting the police than to risk retribution
for opposing the Empire. Kudos to young Mr. Yingling for fortitude.
2:46 pm est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

Passionate but rather uninformedis this rogosvsky guy.

Passion wrongly directed is not worthy of praise. reason
and logic over passion works better in this case.

Fewer words would help too!
1:39 pm est 

Re: Harbormaster Rex

"how much the Long Point shuttle paid to the town for the many hundreds
of people they picked up and dropped off of the ferry float. .  ."



They do not pay anything to the town.  I asked that question and was told Bay
State, Boston Harbor and one other ferry company pay the fee.  I can't remember
the name of the 3rd company, but it was not Flyers.
1:09 pm est 

Re: Bill Dougal

Bill Dougal did sell Coldwell Banker Pat Shultz Real Estate and has retired from
the real estate business.

He was suppose to stay on with the firm for an additional year..but                    
                                                                                     
I was told Bill was the #1 agent for Coldwell Banker in the State of Mass...Big
Changes for the real estate market in Ptown!

He is not leaving town...just on vacation for a few months in Florida.
1:04 pm est 

Nabobs of Negativity

It's absolutely amazing to me to hear people around town and see
people on Facebook complaining about the construction on Commercial St. and how
it's interfering with their businesses. This construction has been in the works
for a long time people, you had plenty of time to plan accordingly. And in my
opinion, it's being done fast and they seem to be doing their best to restore
use of the roads ASAP.

What do you complainers suggest they do? Call each and every one of you
individually at your convenience and schedule the section of road in front of
your business for a day when it works best for you? Or wait until February when
the ground is frozen?

The most ironic part is, several of the folks I heard complaining are the same
ones who are always criticizing others for voicing concerns, calling those
people "negative Nancy's" and generally pretending life in P'town is a total
paradise and insisting that nobody here should complain about anything, ever.
My,oh my, how their tunes change when THEIR lives (and pocketbooks) are
affected.
11:00 am est 

Wouldn't Miss it For the World

A Harbormaster and a Selectmen being investigated by the Authorities; a
harbormaster hiring a Boston Lawyer for his legal defense; a selectman the
subject of a letter to the paper: I wouldn't miss Monday's meeting for the
world.
10:57 am est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

I often wonder if Michael Rogovsky is on the police chiefs payroll... Either that
or he has a cop fetish. His constant preening for the police just seems odd
sometimes and his way of writing like some lesser garrison kieller is just sad
10:54 am est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

"Michael Rogosvky: Who Made Him Town Crier?
He goes on and on in the Banner. and his points appear logical but they are
political and he is part of the losers who keep attacking.  .  ."


I don't always agree with Mr. Rogovksky, but give him credit.  Unlike 99% of the
posters on this blog he identifies himself and speaks aloud on those issues
about which he is passionate.  I have more respect for him than any of the
anonymous attackers on this blog.
10:50 am est 

Re: Harbormaster Rex

FANCY DANCY BOSTON LAWYER

It seems that our Harbormaster has gotten himself a highfalutin Boston lawyer to
represent him. He can't afford to lose his elegant life style and pulling out
all of the stops.

Why does a harbormaster need a high powered lawyer over a simple mooring issue?
Perhaps the investigation by the Distric Attorney will show us why.
10:45 am est 

Friday, December 14, 2012

Michael Rogovsky: Who Made Him Town Crier?

He goes on and on in the Banner. and his points appear logical but they are
political and he is part of the losers who keep attacking. He should go back to
painting nude men.
9:25 pm est 

Re: Harbormaster Rex and the Greater Plan

This is a Set Up to Get Rex Out of Here

the issues with the moorings and the mooring field go back to 1995. and it comes
up now? Now when Jeff wants a big, huge police station and wants to take over
the pier to justify an even larger building.

1995--that is a few years ago. and only now we find a problem? The plotting of
the fields and the inventory of moorings this summer was just the ruse to go
back to an old issue and stick it to him. and they are doing that, aren't they?
bring in the district attorney, an internal investigation, then maybe a special
investigation. Why not focus on DPW and AECOM? why not look at clerk of works on
town buildings with a conflict of interest? Why not look at Boston architects
and town hall office and the kitchen cabinet?

Ah, why not?
9:22 pm est 

The Attacks Against Yingling Are Just Ideological

Bedard lost and some of you still are pissed about that. Too bad. Erik won and
he is better than Machesny who hardly says much and         Anderson who also
says little. Erik is not in Jaran's pocket nor Sharon's and that is what some of
you don't particularly like.

Just remember: you lost! and you are sore losers for sure.
9:19 pm est 

I Think There Are Less Than 800 of Us Here in the Winter

Many who say they are here in the winter are in florida or Brazil or Mexico for
three months and still see themselves as wintering here. but you aren't if
you're not here.

There are maybe only 600 of us here in the winter. the 2,000 are more voters
than residents. Look at the streets even now. It's not deep winter and who is
really here? Just wait another month and you can count the few that are living
here.
9:17 pm est 

Re: While Some Praise the Chief

"Another full time Police Officer has recently resigned from the dept,
making it approx 16 or 17 that have left since God himself aka: Jaran has taken
over."



You have no idea why anyone has left the dept. Sorry to burst your bubble, but
we've seen first hand this week what happens when people jump to conclusions.
9:14 pm est 

Re: Harbormaster Rex

While they are investigating the mooring fiasco it maybe a good time to find out
how much the Long Point shuttle paid to the town for the many hundreds of people
they picked up and dropped off of the ferry float. It is my understanding that
there is a fee for all passengers that are picked up and let off as the Boston
High Speeds do.
9:12 pm est 

What Happened to Bill Dougal?

Has he moved out of town? I heard Pat Shultz was sold but was
surprised to hear that Bill had moved away. Too bad.

One of the good guys.He'll be missed.
9:10 pm est 

BOS Board Member-Santos

Santos must now recuse himself from all matters concerning the pier
and harbor while this investigation is active.

                                                                                                
                                                                  

7:06 pm est 

While Some Praise the Chief

Keep in mind that whether Rex is guilty or not, don't praise the Chief too much.
Another full time Police Officer has recently resigned from the dept, making it
approx 16 or 17 that have left since God himself aka: Jaran has taken over.
I would also like to add, that a couple of days ago a motorist was disabled on
Rte 6 for 12 hrs until a concerned citizen stopped to assist. The motorist had a
medical problem that made it impossible to walk and get help.
7:01 pm est 

Two Different Decisions

How can a selectman say that a public hearing given by the building committee
regarding the needs and requirements of a police station are the same as a
meeting dealing with the determination of a site?

Such a lame excuse for not attending a hearing. Watch them Selectman Yingling
and you will see that they are two separate issues.

One deals with the needs of the building--one deals with where to put the
building.
5:10 pm est 

Re: So Why is Jeff Against Rex?

". . .I suggest you read today's Cape Cod Times. Then
you'll understand. Looks like Grassy and Rex have some explaining to do....."


I suggest several posters on here owe the police chief an apology.  You didn't
know what was going on behind the scenes and were so quick to jump all over the
police chief when it turns out he was only doing his job.
12:46 pm est 

Harbormaster's Office Faces Moorings Probe

Who made the complaint six years ago about the moorings?
11:38 am est 

Re: So Why is Jeff Against Rex?

Jeff doesn't have anything "against Rex". Seems to me the Chief is
just doing his job, unlike the Harbormaster. This has nothing to do with police
carrying guns on the Pier. I suggest you read today's Cape Cod Times. Then
you'll understand. Looks like Grassy and Rex have some explaining to
do.....bring on the independent/outside audit!
10:21 am est 

Harbormaster's Office Faces Moorings Probe

SAD DAY FOR THE TOWN

How sad that our Harbormaster and an elected official are alleged to have
engaged in such          behavior.
10:18 am est 

Harbormaster's Office Faces Moorings Probe

FIRE THE HARBORMASTER

Just read about the investigation. I seem to remember the assistant harbor
master and a citizen talking about this 6 years ago.

Now the district attorney is on the case. Now the facts are emerging. Now is the
time to finally fire the harbor master.
10:16 am est 

Oh Little Town of Provincetown

I didn't vote for Yingling and I have been trying to be convinced that he is
worthy of being Selectmen. However his comment about Ptown being only 800 people
in the winter for justifying a small police station is just plain ignorant. I
guess we can close the fire station because we have a volunteer fire department.
Let's just sell the schools since no one lives here. Why pave Commercial Street
since no one is really using it. Oh, I could just go on and on. Grow Up ...
literally!
10:14 am est 

Re: So Why is Jeff Against Rex?

U R crazy if U think the police want to take over the Pier.  They are
only there because of the vacuum of leadership at the Pier.

signed
Inside the Beltway
10:11 am est 

Contact the Attorney General's Office

Thats what folks said to do on here when I had complaints about this issue and
that issue.

The mooring field issue has the spotlight on it.

There are other issues in this town that will get the spotlight shining upon
them.
10:10 am est 

Harbormaster's Office Faces Moorings Probe
 
By Mary Ann Bragg
mbragg@capecodonline.com
December 14, 2012

PROVINCETOWN  Dozens of long-missing mooring blocks have landed the town
harbormaster's office at the center of a police probe and will likely result in
an independent audit of its books.

On Monday, Town Manager Sharon Lynn will recommend to the board of selectmen
that the town undertake an independent audit of Harbormaster Rex McKinsey's
record keeping.

Lynn's recommendation stems from a review by Cape and Islands District Attorney
Michael O'Keefe of a complaint to Provincetown police that at least 36
underwater mooring blocks in Provincetown Harbor  dating from a purchase of a
wharf in 1995  have been moved illegally to a neighboring rental mooring field.
That rental field is run by Francis John Santos of Flyer's Boat Rental Inc.,
president of that company and also a selectman. McKinsey was at one time an
employee of Santos and his company.

Santos did not return a call for comment Thursday.
A mooring is worth $1,500 to $1,800, exclusive of rental fees, according to the
police probe.

In the district attorney's review of the complaint, O'Keefe noted that the
relationship between McKinsey and Flyer's Boat Rentals "doesn't pass the sniff
test," Police Chief Jeff Jaran said.

"We have a harbormaster with no record keeping. We have a selectman with the
mooring blocks in his mooring field," Jaran said. "It's extremely difficult for
the local police department to get information without an outside view."
The district attorney's office is forwarding aspects of the investigation to the
state Ethics Commission and possibly the state attorney general's office, Jaran
said Tuesday.

McKinsey said, in response to the complaint, that no town records exist for
those moorings and that 16 MacMillan Wharf Realty Trust, which claims to own the
missing moorings and initiated the complaint with police, might never have
properly registered them with the town.

A mooring is a vessel anchoring system that consists of a heavy anchor or block,
a buoy and a pennant. A rental mooring field is a group of 20 or more rented
moorings in a specific area, such as a marina.

On Sept. 11, 16 MacMillan Wharf Realty trustee Ken Kinkor wrote the letter of
complaint to Jaran about the missing moorings, Jaran said.

The trust then used divers on Oct. 24 to conduct an underwater survey of a
nearby rental mooring field, Flyer's Boat Rental, and allegedly found 35 of the
trust's mooring blocks there, Kinkor said.

The moorings were identifiable because they are marked with the letter "PTY" and
a number. A 36th one was found at the end of MacMillan Pier, Kinkor said.
Back in 1995, the trust bought 75 moorings along with 16 MacMillan Wharf itself,
Kinkor said Thursday.

The wharf, which is perpendicular to MacMillan Pier, is a home base for
underwater explorer and treasure hunter Barry Clifford and the Whydah Pirate
Museum. Clifford also asked Jaran for the investigation.

The moorings were supposed to be seaward of a breakwater that is near the wharf,
Kinkor said, but the trust didn't realize the equipment was missing until about
1998. At that time, the trust asked the town for an explanation but received no
satisfactory answer, Kinkor said.

The trust grew keen again on the issue when the town began a harborwide mooring
mapping project this past summer under the joint efforts of McKinsey and the
police department.

Generally, anyone who moors a vessel in Provincetown Harbor must obtain an
annual permit from the harbormaster and pay a fee, according to town harbor
regulations. Anyone with a rental mooring field must obtain a permit from the
town and a permit from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, according to
regulations.

Moorings that are not renewed with the town annually are considered abandoned
and become the town's property. Additionally, the harbormaster is supposed to
keep detailed records about all moorings in the harbor, and only the
harbormaster can approve movement of a mooring, the regulations state.
"I wasn't here at the time that was all going on," McKinsey said of the purchase
of 16 MacMillan Wharf. "I don't have any records that I know of that show that
that field was ever established or paid for. Because it's under investigation, I
don't want to comment on it, but the mooring regulations are pretty clear about
the requirements for rental fields."

Lynn told the board of the Provincetown Public Pier Corp. on Thursday of her
plan to ask the selectmen for the audit. The Public Pier Corp. manages the
town's MacMillan Pier, including the harbormaster's office, but Lynn has in
recent months taken over supervision of McKinsey.
"What are they doing over there? Who gave them permission? Rex is saying, 'Not
me, that was somebody else,'" Lynn said.

O'Keefe was asked to review the investigation's findings to determine if
probable cause existed for criminal charges, Jaran said. Probable cause does not
exist at this time, but the district attorney's office said the investigation
should continue and the audit should take place, Lynn told the Public Pier Corp.
board Thursday.

No motion was made by Public Pier Corp. board members Thursday in support of or
against the audit.


10:08 am est 

Thursday, December 13, 2012

Re: So Why is Jeff Against Rex?

"Recall the town meeting when a resident asked if the town was
receiving/collecting all the mooring fees and the Harbormaster answered that he
did not know. That one question started the ball rolling and brought us to
where we are today."



That is not the Question that started the Ball rolling about Rex and
the Pier

the issue of the morrings has been going on for years and years. It is that the
police seem to want to take control of the pier, grow larger as a presence and
move Rex out.

I want people with marine skills there not just guns. Wrong idea. We don't need
more police on the pier. What ever happened to community policing and bicycles? 
gone the way of boats and guns.
5:19 pm est 

West End Cabal

I see the Cabal is feverishly posting. You amuse me to no end. Please
keep it going.

You amuse me to no end.
5:13 pm est 

Re: "Why do We Have to Pay $7,000,000.00 for a School..?"

You don't.  The actual school budget is about $3.2 million.  See:

http://www.wickedlocal.com/provincetown/news/x1419992148/Provincetown-school-seeks-2-5-percent-budget-bump-in-FY-13

But $7 million sounds so much better for your rant.

If the elemnetary school were closed, there would still be the high tuition
charges to send the students out of town.  Net savings?  Not much, if anything.
5:12 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Site

PARKING CRISIS IF DUARTES GOES

First-he won't sell. Second: We need this parking in town.

We already went down that road.

The DPW site has been chosen twice out of all of the TOWN OWNED PROPERTIES.

As a taxpayer, I don't want to try to buy acres of land for a new police
station. I want what we have to incorporate a DPW and Police station.
5:09 pm est 

Re: School Cost

"Why do we have to pay $7,000,000.00 for a school if there are only 800
year round people here."



Who is paying $7,000,000 for a school?  It's the first time I've heard that
number.
5:06 pm est 

Erik Yingling

In one breath, Yingling says he doesn't want to spend 5-8m on the
police station but in the next (public) breath, he wants to look into buying
private property like the VFW for the site to build a new police station on.

Which is it Mr. Yingling? We are getting tired of your mixed messages.
5:04 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Site

Put the new police station where DPW is! It may not be the IDEAL
location, but its the best choice we have. Besides what's there now is AWFUL!
What an eyesore. Imagine a new building with landscaping and a flagpole that
proudly waves the American flag.  Put the station there! It'll be a vast
improvement.
12:10 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Site

POSTING OUT OF IGONRANCE

If people would watch the building committee report with its exhaustive content
about the need for a police station and its meeting with the selectmen after
exhaustively surveying each town owned parcel on PTV; we wouldn't have such
ignorant statements posted here.

Just saying...
12:06 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Site

Wake up people. Duartes parking lot is the very best place for the police
station.

Best comment and idea I've seen in here in a long time. If we're going to spend
money, lets do it right. Can't say no if we haven't explored the idea. Talking
to Joe Duarte would be the first step.
12:05 pm est 

Out of Touch Yingling

According to Erik Yingling, there are only 800 people in Provincetown in the
Winter. Why do we have to pay $7,000,000.00 for a school if there are only 800
year round people here.

Don't lie and tell me that over 100 of them are school children.

12:02 pm est 

Wednesday, December 12, 2012

Town Looks Great For the Holidays!

Just took a drive around our town, Provincetown, and it looks amazing
with all the light and decoration for the holiday season!  It seems more stores
and homes are decorated this year than in years past!  Wish i had a camera that
performed well at night to capture the beauty and magic!  Thanks to all who
participated in making the town look great for the holidays...!
11:35 pm est 

Re: No BOS Meeting?

Re: "Perhaps  Mr Yingling did not drive from Boston because of the
adverse weather conditions."



Perhaps Mr Yingling should have thought of that prior to deciding to travel.
11:31 pm est 

Re: So Why is Jeff Against Rex?

Re: "Is this an attempt to have all gun carrying people dominate the
pier? How awful if this happened."



This has very little to do with police on the Pier and much more to do with the
mooring fields and the collection or lack of collection of fees due to the town. 
Those fees are due the town and the people in charge at the Pier don't seem to
take the collection of the fees very seriously.

Recall the town meeting when a resident asked if the town was
receiving/collecting all the mooring fees and the Harbormaster answered that he
did not know.  That one question started the ball rolling and brought us to
where we are today.
11:26 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Site

Many feel that becauses we already spent $100,000+ to hire a consultant
that studied the suitability of only one site, the DPW one on Race Point Road,
we need to commit to this site, without exploring other alternatives.But it MAY
be more cost-effective to spend another $100,000, if the site we finally choose
is $300,000 cheaper or MORE than the DPW one.The savings for us would be
significant.
Just saying...
11:22 pm est 

Glad That Erick Yingling is Here

Re: "Such is life here. I love new ideas, new blood and new thinking. ."


The problem is there isn't a lot of thinking going on.
11:15 pm est 

Re: Duartes Parking Lot

Wish that concept had happend. It would be incredible if pier parking could move
to a low slung garage at Duarte's and the current parking area could be
converted into a park/performance area. Would be an incredible gateway to town
and a huge economic generator with festivals that could be held in such a space.
Seems like too many neighbors objecting and other obstacles (like potential
flooding) to that location but in an ideal world would have been great. It's
very sad that our most precious asset, our waterfront, is devoted to parking
lots.



11:12 pm est 

Re: No BOS Meeting?

Isn't Yingling the only Selectman with a winter job?
11:09 pm est 

Re: Harbormaster

MOORING FIELDS + CONTINUED EMPLOYMENT OF HARBOR MASTER

As a taxpayer, it seems that I have to go to the committee and make a statement
and have it on record stating my dissatisfaction with the continued employment
of the harbor master. How many final straws does this man deserve?

1. Are all of these moorings "topped" with a " floatation devise or bouey" in
the summer so that they are easily counted?

2. Are they underwater requiring a diver to do and see which belong to whom?

3. If these are all visible in the summer--then there is no reason why they
can't easily be mapped. I've done mapping myself with a Global positioning
device.

How do I contact Ms. Lee Ash with my questions? I need the facts before making a
public statement at a hearing and have it go on record.

11:08 pm est 

Jeff Jaran vs Rex

The Police Chief and Town Manager teaming up against Rex is what they have done
to others. Until someone with money sues them,(and the selectmen) they are not
going to stop.It is well known in town, they are doing what they want and all
it's doing is dividing this town up.
11:05 pm est 

Re: BOS Out of Town

Nero played the fiddle while Rome burned.  Coincidence??
11:02 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Site

"Dangerous site. a cause of future accidents as police ran out and ac
ross Route 6. .  ."


Do the police sit at the station all day and night waiting for a call and then
run to their car and speed out of the station to the location of the call?  No? 
I didn't think so.

You all are such a whiny little group.  I hope you get your wish and the station
is voted down.  Then I hope a group of police employees sues the town for
unhealthy working conditions or the fire chief finally does his job and shuts
down the fire trap.  We'll spend millions to quickly put together a temporary
station all because you think you know better.

You will finally get what you deserve.  Happy Holidays !
10:57 pm est 

Tuesday, December 11, 2012

So Why is Jeff Against Rex?

What in he world is happening here? why is Jeff and Sharon against Rex? Is this
an attempt to have all gun carrying people dominate the pier? How awful if this
happened.

We need sea people and harbormasters--not police with guns.
10:39 pm est 

Glad That Erick Yingling is Here

He seems to make the right decision. Glad that he won and Bedard lost. Sorry but
Bedard seemed compromised not his own man. Such is life here. I love new ideas,
new blood and new thinking.

Happy Holidays!
10:37 pm est 

Maybe You Just Haven't Noticed
 
That people are out of town celebrating the holidays. so that a BOs meting is
postponed, seems to fit into the days of clelebration.

But you, with your head stuck in the sand--hardly noticed.

some people are celebrating. Good for them! Good for us!
10:36 pm est 

Re: Police Station

Wake up people. Duartes parking lot is the very best place for the police
station. It has entrances both on Conwell and Bradford streets and is elevated
enough to build a basement without fear of groundwater, easy access to town
sewer line, central location and the town would also own other usable buildings
on the property for additional uses. Yes, it will cost lots of money but lets
face it, everything has a price, Joe is getting older, I really doubt his kids
will want to continue with a parking lot and put the same time into it that Joe
does and if they decide to sell it off after Joes passing, you KNOW it's going
to be condos of some sort. Might have to pay a bit more for the project if it
were to go on Duartes but in the long run, it's the best location, best
opportunity and the best investment the town can make towards it's future.

ps  Forget Cabrals Marina. Take a sail under it some time. No way is it worth
the money they're asking. And keep in mind, all the parking spaces are illegal
and the grand total needs to be reduced according to the state for Ch. 91.
10:33 pm est 

Re: No BOS Meeting?

Perhaps  Mr Yingling did not drive from Boston because of the adverse
weather conditions. I was in Boston yesterday and drove back under very severe
conditions. If I were to do it over I would not have driven back to the Cape
yesterday afternnon.
9:59 pm est 

Re: Guilty by Association:

You hit the nail on the head with that comment!!! 

If only the towns people knew what really goes on in the DPW office.
And whats the operations officer doing dealing with Union issues? Going behind
closed doors with the Union President?  thats not in her job description. Open
your eyes people!

9:58 pm est 

Re: David Bedard

"It's no mistake he lost. We needed new blood and new ideas and we have
it. votes count and the town people spoke. you may not like the election result
but it was the democratic choice. and it wasn't even close!"


You are right.  Yingling was a good campaigner, but makes a lousy selectmen. 
People are just starting to see it.
9:54 pm est 

Re: David Bedard

Among the many reasons that Bedard lost was because of his surrogates,
INCLUDING YOU!!!!
9:53 pm est 

December 17 Selectmens Meeting

It is going to be a tight squeeze, especially for people who have to drive in
from out of town.

when is the next pier corps meeting?
9:51 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

HIGH SCHOOL WON'T WORK

Listen to the building committee report on PTV before you respond here about the
police station requirements.
9:49 pm est 

9:46 pm est 

Re: No BOS Meeting

You don't seem to understand common courtesy.

It's not about common courtesy to the board members. Its courtesy for the BOS to
inform the public and those going to the meeting as agenda related individuals
far enough in advance that they don't waste their time going to a meeting that
someone irresposible couldn't make happen. Santos and McChesney advised the
board in advance, way in advance, but Yingling decided to go to Boston that day?
All of a sudden? That's irresposible and HE doesn't know common courtesy.
9:45 pm est 

Re: No BOS Meeting?

"Unless of course more members were absent and in that case why is Mr.
Yingling anymorethe cause than the other absent members?"

You don't seem to understand common courtesy.
12:49 am est 

Re: No BOS Meeting?

"Erik Yingling represents 1/5 of the Board. The Board would still have
a quorum withoutMr. Yingling.  Unless of course more members were absent and in
that case why is Mr. Yingling anymorethe cause than the other absent members? 
Your singular focus and choice of language informs both your ignorance and mal-intent."


Everyone on the BOS (including Yingling) knew two Selectmen were unable to
attend the Monday night meeting.  McChesney and Santos informed the BOS they
were unable to attend far in advance of the meeting.  Mr.Yingling apparently
called Monday afternoon to say he couldn't make it.    If Mr. Yingling had
informed everyone more than five hours in advance or whenever he called Monday
afternoon the meeting would not have been scheduled in the first place.

This one does fall on his shoulders.
12:47 am est 

Re: Police Station

Why doesn't the town buy Cabral's Marina, for the new police station.  The price
is right and the town can clean up with the parking.
12:41 am est 

Re: Police Station

"how can the Town market this property if the flood plan etc. is
unfit."


You realize, of course, that most of the properties on Commercial Street are
also in flood zones.  And many other developed areas of town, including the Stop
& Shop and the airport, and...

12:39 am est 

Bedard Lost. the People Spoke

it's no mistake he lost. We needed new blood and new ideas and we have it. votes
count and the town people spoke. you may not like the election result but it was
the democratic choice. and it wasn't even close!
12:38 am est 

Monday, December 10, 2012

Re: Police Station

My point exactly, how can the Town market this property
if the flood plan etc. is unfit. This is why I have opened this question .
Who in their right mind would consider a purchase of an questionable
property?
That's why I say keep it open space otherwise we will develope it
into more affordable housiing at a much higher cost  to taxpayers and big
profits to  the developers.
These guys are not developing out of the goodness of their hearts.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
7:20 pm est 

No BOS Meeting?

"ERICK YINGLING IS THE CULPRIT

Our Provincetown Prima Donna couldn't be bothered to drive in from Boston--so we
all have to rearrange our schedules.

Who made him king of the world?"


Why would the absents of one Selectman prevent holding the BOS meeting?

Erik Yingling represents 1/5 of the Board. The Board would still have a quorum without
Mr. Yingling.

Unless of course more members were absent and in that case why is Mr. Yingling anymore
the cause than the other absent members?

Your singular focus and choice of language informs both your ignorence and mal-intent.
7:07 pm est 

No BOS Meeting?

ERICK YINGLING IS THE CULPRIT

Our Provincetown Prima Donna couldn't be bothered to drive in from Boston--so we
all have to rearrange our schedules.

Who made him king of the world?

I'm going to be there next Monday...please all attend. I do have something to
say..and say..and say...and say...

There is so much to say about this guy. I will have to give half of my speach to
someone else to complete it.
6:54 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Located at H.S. Gym Building

"PS location at the H.S. Gym building and accompanying parking area.
Seems viable.  What are the exact reasons why this can't happen?"

And the blog goes silent on this one?  Just too stupid to consider.  Or maybe it
makes too much common sense which is the problem.  And doesn't fit snuggly into
the development puzzle.
6:52 pm est 

New Pavement-Storm Water Runoff

During today's intense rain I observed a large volume of rainwater
flowing down Johnson Street and Center Street.  When it reached Commercial
Street it was absorbed by the new pavement within two to three yards.  It was
impressive.
6:04 pm est 

Re: School Playground

"Two members of the public made an Academy Award performance. Then I went to
Trip Advisor and discovered this is what they do every day."

Trip Advisor has been used as a "tool" by a very unscrupulous guest house owner
to slam his / her competition.  Probably is the same person who is trying to
mélange the owners who are concerned about the impact of a playground on their
business.  Very often positions are not what they seem to be, especially after
postings of vindictive people who have obvious ulterior motives.  Friend, you
are not fooling anyone!
5:50 pm est 

No BOS Meeting?

Did anyone else hear why the BOS meeting was cancelled for tonight? 
The last one of 2012 it involved a number of people.

Looking at their posted agenda:
*Joint meeting with VSB - The VSB and staff member would be expected to be
there.
*Water/Wastewater Update - At least one paid consultant brought in for this.  I
assume two or three staff members would be there.
*Open Cape Update - A number of people coming for this update.
*Parking report - staff presenting
*Auditorium Rental for Year-Rounder Festival - assuming Festival committee
people attending
*Barnstable County Economic Development District - don't know if county
representatives were attending this one.

It looks like many folks arranged their schedule to attend this meeting.  If
what I heard is true all these people are inconvienced by the actions of one
person.  I hope they were able to contact everyone so no one had to drive in the
rain for a meeting that isn't happening.
5:37 pm est 

Re: Police Station

Re: "then I agree that it is surplus and should be sold
to the Land Bank for $1.00. If considered unfit for the Police Station how can
it be fit for anything else than "Open Space"?"



Sorry, you don't get to make that decision.  If a property is unfit for a police
station because one would have to build a 4 story building to fit on the lot it
doesn't prevent it from being usable space for another purpose.

There are many properties built on flood plains in the town.  Doesn't mean we
should build a station on a flood plain, but if someone else wants to buy the
land and build on it who are we to say no?

If you think it's wise to sell the property to the Land Bank for $1 you are
probably one of the people who made the decisions that got us into a financial
mess in the 90s
5:34 pm est 

Re: Police Station

Thank you for your reply concerning the future of the current
Police Station. However, you stated it as being sold as surplus
Property. If according to the reasons why the station cannot remain on the
current location, then I agree that it is surplus and should be sold
to the Land Bank for $1.00. If considered unfit for the Police Station how can
it be fit for anything else than "Open Space"?
2:58 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

". . .are there any future plans forthe current site? Has this issue
been discussed or considered?"



My understanding is the current site will be sold as surplus property.
12:35 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

If and when the station is relocated , are there any future plans for
the current site? Has this issue been discussed or considered ?
10:58 am est 

Building Committee Meeting

THURSDAY BUILDING COMMITTEE MEETING

Why not go there and speak up during "Public Comments"? Don't worry; you'll hear
about the sparks flying soon enough and folks will tune into the hearings.

Don't stray to far from PTV or from watching the sparks fly when you down load
it on your computer.

I just hope that it is the right meeting.
10:18 am est 

Re: New Police Station Site

Don't you love how these people posting complain about the location
(if they aren't the two selectmen opposed to the Rte 6 location and certain
Finance Committee members)never spoke up during the public hearings?


There are three types of people in the world my father told me growing up: those
that make things happen, those that watch things happen and those that wondered
what happened.

Getting involved in the process isn't anonymously posting here!
8:41 am est 

Sunday, December 9, 2012

To: "Building Committee Hearings"

"Good grief.  If you want to be taken seriously, at the very least, please proof
read or learn to spell."


Why the question of ideas not existing? I'm seeing, on this blog, the idea
for the PS location at the H.S. Gym building and accompanying parking area. 
Seems viable.  What are the exact reasons why this can't happen?

Central, easily traversed, parking, town owned, minimal expense to taxpayers,
certainly less a cost than a new building for a police force that has existed to
now in much less circumstance, just fine.  Maybe this would not be conducive to
mass development and the colossal influx of money to those whose business it is
to do just that.   Nice.   New concrete on 6, what a perfect seed to plant.
10:38 pm est 

Re: Dave Bedard

I agree too! It was a real mistake not re-electing Dave Bedard!
5:46 pm est 

Re: BOS Vote on New Police Station Site

Take the worse site Possible and then vote for That!!

That is what the selectmen have done and so too the new group to study the site and
design. It's the worse choice. Just amazing how the worse becomes so often the
best here in provincetown. How do we constantly make and vote on stupid
decisions?

It's not too late. Wake up. And speak up. bad site, bad decision. Let's get new
ideas that make sense for all of us including the police.

This one is not the one.
5:19 pm est 

Building Committee Hearings

After you own in-depth investigation into the sites and the needs of the polce
station, why don't you avidly concerned citizens go to the selectmen's meeting
and voice your concerens?

Why don't you go to the building committee hearings and voice them there as
well. Your reasoned, well thought out solutions aftger all of your own rigorous
study would be welcomed I'm sure.

5:16 pm est 

David Bedard

We screwed up.  Please come back.
5:14 pm est 

Guilty by Association

You want harder reporting by the Banner yet your blogmaster censors
out any real comments about what is going on with mooring fees.  When a high
ranking elected official is allegedly involved the blogmaster censors those
postings to protect his little group of pals.

Makes the blog look less like a group of concerned citizens and more like a
group attempting to take money from the town.  Guilty by association Clarence. 
Shame on you.
5:12 pm est 

Re: Police Station

You all can work yourselves into a tizzy on the police station
location.  I intend to honor the work of building committee and trust the work
they've done was a full and complete analysis of the options.  I'll be voting
yes to the Race Point Road site.
5:10 pm est 

Re: Shankpainter Development

Be  aware SCAM..spell it backwards...coincidence?


Aren't we clever?  Slandering a new business coming to town with Zero facts to
support your slanderous statement.

You must be very proud          .
5:07 pm est 

Re: Police Station

Hey, want to get a new police station for Provincetown? Keep up the 
insults.Why not rerun the last selectmens race too? Come on,  grow  How  about
an  honest discussion instead?
5:05 pm est 

Re: Shankpainter Development

Be aware SCAM..spell it backwards...coincidence?


What are you talking about?  Spelling SCAM backwards you get MACS and MACS can't
be here because of strict regulations about honky tonk businesses not being
welcome.  Is there something you know that you are not saying?  Macs being here
is the least of the problems afoot.  At least it would create a few year-round
jobs.  You know, for those living in the affordable housing that can't find work
in winter but drive BMWs or Lexus.
5:02 pm est 

Saturday, December 8, 2012

Easy Access to east, west and beyond on Route 6?

How about dangerous intersection. Dangerous site. a cause of future accidents as
police ran out and ac ross Route 6. Perhaps one of the worse sites due to
dangers ahead.
4:50 pm est 

Shankpainter Development

Hoping all the inspection and licensing authorities monitor closely
the renovation across from the new affordable housing..The place is a rat
trap...Just what we need ...260 restaurant open 4--1/2 months a year-employing
people from every where but here-what a novelty!!Be aware SCAM..spell it
backwards...coincidence?
12:06 pm est 

Re:Police Station/Commercial Street
                                    
Fill the basement in and build on ground and they wont have to worrie about
water.keep the police station where it is, look at the fire station it dosent
flood.I think the worst place is on the other side of highway.I think we would
be wasteing money foolish like how they are by useing that kind of asphalt they
are useing.wait  and see how much its going to cost to put a patch in it after
they have a water/sewer line break I hope I get proved wrong. Its time to really
think before we waste more tax money.
12:03 pm est 

Re: Police Station- "Exaggerators Club"

Exactly which holiday brings 100,000 to town?
Is it the exaggerators club?
11:02 am est 

Police Station

Thank you Selectmen for your vote on the new Police Station site. Very pleased
with the location on Route 6 and Race Point Road. Allows for easy access to the
east, west and central parts of the town wihtout speeding down Bradford Street
to get to the East End. And its about time that we had a new police station. We
may be a small town however with our growth to 40,000 people every summer and up
to 100,000 people during holidays, we need a professional station.
10:44 am est 

Affordable Housing Plan

Lets build affordable housing on both sides of Rt6. Let the taxpayers buy up the
land and they can pay for the buildings for us to live in.

The taxpayers should buy up all of the available land on shankpainter road and
pay for some more housing for us.
10:42 am est 

Re: BOS Vote on New Police Station Site

The only Selectman who may not know this is the one who hasn't
bothered to watch or read their reports.

From your statement above, you imply that I was speaking about a certain
Selectman. I wasn't. Don't know what YOUR agenda is about the Selectman you
allude to in your reaction to my comments posted on Friday at 11:59 pm. Nor do I
know, or frankly care who the Selectman is you speak about. Just stop trying to
use any comment posted on this blog to zing her or him.  It's pathetic!!!

Just take a deep breath, and let it gooooo...
10:39 am est 

Re: BOS Vote on New Police Station Site

The vote on the new police station MUST be a secret ballot. Who needs
to be thought of as an opponent of the potentially vindictive powers that be.
12:22 am est 

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

The vote on the new police station MUST be a secret ballot. Who needs
to be thought of as an opponent of the potentially vindictive powers that be.
12:07 am est 

Town Governance

The town should use what it already has and save alot of money rather
than spend what it doesn't have and worry about it later.



Agreed.  Common sense is needed, not wild spending.
12:02 am est 

Friday, December 7, 2012

Re: Police Site

"From what I understand, and realize I may be incorrect, is that the

Building Commitee asked the BOS if it wanted the Building Committee to look at
sites other than the DPW one.The BOS chose not to have the commitee look at any
other sites.  .  ."



So much mis-information out there.  The BOS gave no such direction to the
Building Committee.  The Building Committee looked at every possible town owned
location in town and did site visits to them.  The only Selectman who may not
know this is the one who hasn't bothered to watch or read their reports.
11:59 pm est 

Re: School Playground

I decided to check trip adviser and saw that the reviews were
outstanding.  Why are you starting problems and basing your opinions on
untruths?
10:10 pm est 

Re: BOS Vote on New Police Station Site

To all these people unhappy about the proposed new police station- I
say go to Monday nights BOS meeting. Tell  Elaine Anderson, Austin Knight,and
the other one what you think. I'll be there. Get a backbone and tell them, not
us.
6:53 pm est 

Do We Really Need a New Police Station?

How many criminals spend the night in Provincetown jail, other than the sober
tank?  Aside from a dispatch office, why do the police need a brand new entire
building?   Where are our priorities??
4:27 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

We don't Need a Grant to Make the Route 6 Site workable

It is not. Plain and simple. It is a dangerous spot for the police to handle the
town and for the town to walk to and drive to the police station. It is perhaps
the most dangerous spot we could elect.

So why this site? Why indeed!

It is an attempt--grand in style--to open up Route 6 for development. The town
will continue to use and develop Route 6 and some in town will make a bundle of
money.

This is the secret behind the scene agenda. Get there and develop to your
heart's delight and to some town employees' profit. This they have wanted to do
for years. Remember the Campus Y site until a box turtle was found by Paul
Tasha?  The game plan continues and we are the saps who go along with their
plans. We are the sad remnants who count for little and are the real pawns for
those who rule town hall. Key boston developers. Key town officials whose
retirement plans increase with each huge town project.

How sad we are. How silent we are. How destructive this is to a real democracy.
3:49 pm est 

Police Site

From what I understand, and realize I may be incorrect, is that the Building
Commitee asked the BOS if it wanted the Building Committee to look at sites
other than the DPW one.The BOS chose not to have the commitee look at any other
sites.It's the BOS's  prerogative to make such a decision. When it's our time at
Town Meeting to vote on this project, we, the voters, will vote accordingly, for
it's also our prerogative to do so.
3:44 pm est 

Ineffectual Rantings

All last year this blog was ranting against the hight school being renovated..it
passed almost unanimously...lets see what happens this spring with the police
station

Responsible citzens will turn out and vote yes.
3:42 pm est 

Re: Rethinking New Police Station Selected Site

Ptown is unique in that alot of the traffic in town is pedestrian and
bicycle, even in winter.  A central site should be seriously considered, one
easily reached by all modes of transportation.  Couldn't the High School Gym and
parking area be satisfactorily renovated with whatever additions and
modifications are necessary to accomodate the growing police force.   This is
not that big a town, even in summer.  Seems like this would save alot of money,
much more so than spending multi-millions on a brand new facility out of the
way.  This central location is easily accessible with enough parking and room
already.  Why can't a police station be done here, not in a flood zone.  The
school is closing.  The town should use what it already has and save alot of
money rather than spend what it doesn't have and worry about it later.
1:23 pm est 

Re: Police Station Site

I'll repost what I submitted but didn't get posted.

The elevations of the two mentioned sites, current station and the DPW are too
low to the groundwater level to be considerd. Someone mentioned that the police
station is 48' above sea level. Groundwater throughout town is elevation 4. Look
next to the fire station. Thats groundwater level. Is the police station 48'
above that???

At the DPW site, the water you see on the left of the access road
is groundwater. How deep would you dig to get to water in the DPW parking lot?

Facts don't lie. It's not opinion, it's fact.
1:17 pm est 

Re: School Playground

"Two members of the public made an Academy Award performance. Then I went to Trip
Advisor and discovered this is what they do every day."


I wasn't quite clear what the above meant, so I went to the Trip Advisor website
and read the reviews about the establishment. I was saddened by what I found. 
The comments don't show Provincetown in a good light. Maybe the establishment
could seek some guidance from an external organization, such as the PBG or the
Chamber, so that it can improve the way in which they deal with customers. I'm
not sure if providing this assistance is within the domain of any of these two
organizations.
1:14 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

It is without question not the ideal spot but I want to touch base on a couple
of things mentioned. An IP is not released until they blow into a mahine and are
below a certain level. An IP can only be kept 12 hrs but I do believe if they
still are well above the limit, they can be re-IP. So the likely hood of them
walking across the highway intoxicated is unlikely. Could they still feel under
the weather, yes, but once they meet the criteria for release the Police can not
be held responsible to my knowledge. The bigger concern I have is females. Many
prisoners or whatever, are released at various times of the day and night. A
female getting released at 3 am is not cool and a recipe for trouble. Final
note; many of us have seen the congestion at the traffic lights and on Conwell
Street,add x-amount of employees going and coming from the Highway, Police
Station,Beach goers, Airport,going to and from the dump, plus the people who
need to go to the Police station will double tha!
t congestion. Could that congestion create havoc for emergency vehicles, only
time will tell. Trust me, the Police Chief will promise you the moon so he can
get his Police Station but the reality is what a previous person posted that I
am basically adding things too, is the real deal.
11:45 am est 

Re: Police Station Site

Police station".......

I still will not vote for a new police / Dpw site.
The selectman,building committee and town mgr. has not
Given me any reason to agree to spending this amount of money.
I will agree to a much pared downed price ticket at the right
Location,say the vets building.
Provincetown police are not in a city and the crime stats do
Not come close to justifying this project.
No new taxs should be our demand,please start listening to us!
11:16 am est 

Re: Police Station Site

"The police let IP's out in the early morning and most of the time
they're walking. That means they'll have to cross the highway either hung over
or still under the influence. Hmmm... I wonder who will get sued whn one of them
gets hit by a car?"



A grant has been submitted by the Cape Cod National Seashore to re-configure the
intersection of Rte 6 and Conwell which will address your concerns including
pedestrian and bikes. In addition the grant includes bike pedestrian lanes on
both sides on Conwell to Cemetary Road.
9:09 am est 

Police Station Site

Has anybody looked at the obvious reasons why the DPW is a poor selection for
the new police station? How about for the simple reason that it's on the other
side of Rte 6?

The police let IP's out in the early morning and most of the time
they're walking. That means they'll have to cross the highway either hung over
or still under the influence. Hmmm... I wonder who will get sued whn one of them
gets hit by a car?

How about because the cruisers will have to deal with the
traffic lights when the respond to calls? Yes that can be mitigated but it will
add to the safety issues at a very busy intersection with many vehicles as well
as bicyclists and pedestrians.

How about because not everyone owns a car and citizens will now have to cross
the highway on foot to get to the police station to conduct business? I'm sure there
are other reasons if I put any thought into it.

It amazes me how nobody calls this chief on any of his foolish ideas that
just don't fit or work in our community.
8:54 am est 

Success

I'd rather have people who have been successful in their personal
lives be the majority on any board in town partculary when they are holding the
purse strings!
8:38 am est 

BOS Vote on New Police Station Site

Re: "Wrong and wrong again. but do they ever listen?"

Listen to who?  To you?  An anonymous poster?  Are you really serious that you
would expect 'them' to listen to you?

I don't really care where the police station gets built, but it's amusing to see
those who think it should be built at this location or that location.

One Selectmen is being advised by his grandmother who believes it should be
built on the existing site despite all the evidence that it won't work.

Another Selectmen is driving around town looking for locations and currently
believes it should be built on Motta Field in spite of the deed restrictions
that limit the use of the property to recreational use.

And then we have the experts on this site who despite their lack of research
believe they have all the answers.  You can't make this stuff up, no one would
believe it.
8:34 am est 

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

The Building Committee didn't do countless hours of work on the 
location,  instead the Selectmen voted to pick the site before Building voted.
BOS  instead ratified the demands of the police chief
8:27 am est 

Thursday, December 6, 2012

Wrong Site, Wrong Decision


Wrong and wrong again. but do they ever listen? Pretend this is a democracy but
it is far from that. It is a plutocracy even without too many "pluts"!
10:58 pm est 

Police Station

Connect with the Fire Dept and Rescue on Shank Painter
and raise the current location to replace the loss parking.
All entities of health, welfare and protection would all be connected.
10:40 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

"Put some thought on the matter. The DPW site is completely wrong for
the site. Go down there and look for yourself."


So you didn't volunteer to be on the Building Committee or were not voted on. 
Several people were voted on to the committee and did countless hours of work
and research.  After all their work and research they come up with solutions. 
Why in the heck should anyone put more faith in the anonymous postings on an
attack blog than on some hard working residents who researched every
possibility?

If people choose to put any credibility on the anonymous postings here over the
work of a committee they should have their head examined.
10:37 pm est 

CPA Funds for School Playground

Just a Reminder

What did the CPA pay for? The purchase of land for the
playground or for the equipment and installation? The latter is not
legal according to The Community Preservation Act. And I do not
recall any sale of Town Land.
10:36 pm est 

Political Activity Actual or Perceived

Looking for the flood maps on the town website, I came across the links page and
found those below for elected officials. Scott Brow was missing? While I am
personally glad Scott Brown lost his re election bid, he is still a Senator -
and he voted on very important disability rights law just yesterday- Town Hall
Staff has to be careful about political activity actual or perceived.


LINKS:
ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES
U.S. Senator John F. Kerry
U.S. Congressman William Keating
State Senator Daniel A. Wolf
State Representative Sarah K. Peake
10:33 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

The elevation of the DPW site is between 10 and 15 feet above sea
level. The current Police Station is 48 feet above sea level. Which would you
rather be working in during a flood?
7:52 am est 

Wednesday, December 5, 2012

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

Police station thinking

Put some thought on the matter. The DPW site is completely wrong for the site. Go
down there and look for yourself. The water table next to the access road is
actual groundwater elevation. Can you say raised septic system which translates
to expensive? No sewer line on that side of Rt 6 and there are no plans for
there to be one either. Then, because you have such a high water table, there
can be no basement to the new building. Wouldn't a basement/bunker be the best
place for emergency managemnt in case of hurricanes or snow storms, much like
the FEMA and MEMA bunkers, protected and away from damage? Considering height
regulations and space limitations to the site if a DPW garage is also included,
wouldn't going downward make the most sense? Can't do that at either the current
station site or at potentially the DPW site. What are the other sites being
considered? There have to be better ideas.
11:13 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

Police Station Plans a Disaster

This committee just is stamping what Sharon and Jeff wanted. They have used the
flood issues against building the new station where the old one is.

Now that the new proposed site is itself in the flood zone, what will they do? 
Drop the route 6 site. Drop this poor site for a police station.

But the one thing they can't do is use the flood zone issue to reject the
present location.
10:21 pm est 

Re: Banner Reporting of the Police Station Siting

The Banner? Tell Us what Is Actually happening?

I think not. Look elsewhere. Keep the $2 and have a small cup of coffee.

It's a pretense of a newspaper. Nothing more.
10:19 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

Police Station

Flood zone or not is immaterial to me personally but what does disturb me is,
(and I believe the Banner Newspaper reported this info), that the Selectmen
voted without the  Police Station advisory Committee knowing,  voted and okayed
the site next to the DPW garage for the new Police Station.

Incase you are wondering what is disturbing about this is? The Committee spends
hours and weeks trying their best I am sure, to get all the facts needed to make
a professional and group decision which eventually has to be presented to the
voters and the Selectmen do that to them.

Approx $100,000 has been spent already and it's not even being close to being
built. The Committee has not even agreed on a site. I am convinced the Town
Manager and the Police Chief did their usual bully tactics and the Selectmen
caved.

If I was on that Committee, I would resign effective immediately.
10:17 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

Re: Police Station

The table in the map posted alleging to show DPW in a flood zone was
misinterpreted. The DPW is shown on the map in a table of critical facilities in
the Provincetown area. This table DOES NOT indicate a facility is in or out of a
flood zone, it simply lists the facilities. Therefore prior postings alleging
the map and table show the DPW facility in a flood zone are incorrect.

Further, from the Cape Cod Commission description of the map posted "The SLOSH
zones are not shown on this map. The determination was based on consultation of
the Southern Massachusetts Hurricane Evacuation Study."

SLOSH zones were calculated by the Army Corp of Engineers for the Southern
Massachusetts Hurricane Evacuation Study. The appropriate map is:

http://www.iwr.usace.army.mil/nhp/HES/MA/Current1997HES/1994%20PDFs%20of%20Inundation%20Maps/provincetown.pdf

Read the legend on the right hand side of the map as well as the map itself.

The map clearly shows that:
1) The current police station location is in a location that can be flooded
during a category 3 and above hurricane.
2) The proposed DPW site is not in a flood zone.
3) There is some chance of flooding along route 6 either side of Race Point Road
intersection in a category 4 hurricane though it is not shown well on this map.





10:13 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

"Let's build the new one where the old one is and has worked for
emergencies and for citizens. this makes the most sense."



Do you listen to a word anyone else says?
9:55 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

WATCH THE BUILDING COMMITTEE MEETING ON PTV

Nov 19 and now December 3rd....The building committee first had its public
hearing and then they met with the selectmen to explain in detail how they came
to chose the site.

See Selectman Yingling in Action. His piercing questioning of the details of the
study. His insight into other possibilities.
9:53 pm est 

Thanks for the Information on the Proposed Police Station Site

So let me get this straight.

The bloggers who post here, having done none of the research or work to research
the design and locations for police stations know better than the committee who
did all the research and all the work?

Is that what you are claiming?  You believe building a three or four story
station on the current site is a better idea based on what research you have
done?
9:51 pm est 

Thanks for the Information on the Proposed Police Station Site

Thanks for such good investigative work. the site won't work. the argument for
not having the new police station at the old police station is due to its
location in a flood zone. so the new site does not rectify the problem and they
are equally in flood zones.

Let's build the new one where the old one is and has worked for emergencies and
for citizens. this makes the most sense.
2:43 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing Accusations

Pretty jumpy to assume they are all fraudulent. Lots of people live
there that really need it. They all went through the due process. What business
is of of anyone's where people go and what kind of car they drive? Get a life!
2:42 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

A friend once said,"there's always somebody who lives to tell". It was
mentioned by a former selectman that there's a deed restriction on the DPW land
for mining rights by Whitehead sand company. If that's not cleared first and a
police ststion or anything else is built there that co. can sue the Town.Is all
that true? Ya better find out 1st!
2:39 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

You can easily see the DPW site is much more at risk than the Shank Painter or
VMES site.

Home  Dynamic  Topographic Maps  Provincetown, Massachusetts
http://www.nationalatlas.gov/100topos/Provincetown.html


http://www.trails.com/topo.aspx?lat=42.0626&lon=-70.18797&s=50&size=s&style=drgsr


The Transfer Station area seems to be safely on higher ground so might be a
potential police station site?
2:37 pm est 

Banner Reporting of the Police Station Siting

Will the Banner cover this story factually or will they ignore
or whitewash the facts?
10:36 am est 

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

"THE FEMA map is for flooding when we get too much rain or we get rain too fast.
The SLOSH Map is for storm surge from Hurricanes."

That's exactly the case, NOAA predictions call for increased future hurricane activity
with increased strength due to global warming. Under these emergency conditions
wouldn't the Emergency Command Center be in harms way? 

Doesn't the cost of insurance increase significantly based on the Police Station
being located at the DPW site? Could not the additional required monies be used to
acquire a differnt site? Was the additional cost considered, when the
analysis was made.

It seems that the Building Committee made a great attempt to "Think and Stay Inside" the
proverbial box.

Nothing changes with this town......all roads lead to Race Point.

You can have any color you want, as long as it is Black
10:26 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing Accusations

Fraud is everyone's business.
10:08 am est 

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

Let me see if I have connected all the dots.

The Selectmen picked a site before the Building Committee made a recommendation.
They didn't investigate costs of other sites. The Selectmen voted despite not
posting they would select a site at that meeting.

The Selectmen picked a site without informing the neighbors they were about to pick
a sight. The Selectmen picked the sight at a meeting with no public comment. (very
rare at a BOS meeting). No public hearing or public forum was held about the location
(only the design).

A Selectmen and Building Committee member each told the neighbors to get over
any objections they might have because they knew they live next to the DPW.
Curious both the selectmen and building committee member live waterfront on
Commercial.

And worst of all, it now appears the site will not  work for as an emergency
command center.

10:06 am est 

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

Town Hall keeps trying to suggest otherwise, but all flooding at the police
station is from bad plumbing and an inadequate sump pump. Never has that lot or
the police station flooded in the traditional sense. Any Provincetown homeowner
would have solved this problem asap.

Call a plumber not an architect!
9:54 am est 

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

THE FEMA map is for flooding when we get too much rain or we get rain too fast.
The SLOSH Map is for storm surge from Hurricanes. For the three possible police
station locations

                          Current     DPW      VMES
FEMA Flood               NO         NO        NO
SLOSH Storm Surge   YES        YES       NO
9:51 am est 

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

It was argued that the Police Department should not be at Shank
Painter because it's in flood zone. But as it turns, it now seems that the
proposed site is also in a flood zone. If so, does this mean that even the DPW
needs to be relocated?
9:48 am est 

Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

"I looked at the map in the link and as far as i can see, the DPW is not in any
flood or slosh zone!"



Clearly, you did not look very hard. The "Risk and Vulnerability Assessment" map legend shows Parcel 18, DPW Garage/Transfer Station located at 24 Race Point Road, Map Location G4 in the Town of Provincetown, MA.

You can't make this up. It is unbelievable that this fact wsa not known by the Building Committee.
Why was this site acceptable, when other sites were rejected for being in  flood zones?

This goes to the very heart of the problem with this current administration. It demonstrates a total
disregard for "due process". It cannot be trusted and neither should the Building Committee's findings.
 
11:46 pm est 

Sad Day For Journalism

Apparently we can't trust anything we have read in the Cape Cod Times either.

Their credibility has been ruined, thanks to Karen Jeffery.

I wonder if the newspaper has to return all of the awards they've won for
journalistic excellence?


11:40 pm est 

Re: New Police Station Selected Site

I looked at the map in the link and as far as i can see,  the DPW is not in any
flood or slosh zone!
11:38 pm est 

New Police Station Selected Site

"the DPW site is also in a flood zone (SLOSH MAP). It appears the
water comes from the west over the ponds?"

Not sure about the Nat'l Seashore side of RT 6, but potential flooding of the
current Police & Fire Stations comes from the fact that Shankpainter Pond has no
stream outlet to the sea.  It only drains slowly into the ground water table. 
So extremely heavy rains, as in a big hurricane, can result in the Pond level
rising and overflowing to flood low-lying nearby land.

It's not like Sandy in NY and NJ, which was ocean storm surge flooding, not rain
flooding.
11:36 pm est 

New Police Station Selected Site

Contrary to what was said at the BOS meeting, the DPW site is also in a flood zone (SLOSH MAP). It appears the water comes from the west over the ponds?

Who can you trust?

You can't make this stuff up!
10:41 pm est 

AIDS Memorial recent post

Wow! First worthy, intelligent thing i've read on here in years! All valid
points worth reading & helpful in understanding vs hearsay & grand standing.
Well stated. Thank You!!
9:54 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing Accusations

"You seem to have a lot of time on your hands and a penchant for
sticking your nose in everyone else's business so why not put it to use.
Otherwise, without proof of fraud, please stop making unsubtantiated accusations
ad naseum on here."


I don't stick my nose in everyone's business, but when I see people committing
fraud to get an apartment that I was turned down for, sorry, but that kinda is
my business.

And, FYI, I once wrote in to this blog with proof about a specific individual
who spent much of last winter in Paris but still miraculously qualified as low
income and got one of the Shankpainter units. However, my post was so censored
by the blogmaster that it didn't make any sense when it was printed. It just
looked like a short paragraph with a bunch of black bars covering all the
pertinent information. I'll be glad to name names for anybody who wants to
listen!
9:50 pm est 

Town Owned Land

As a taxpayer, I'm against spending money for land when we have town owned land
for the police station. Plus, we have the architectural plans from the site that
were presented last year and they can be adapted.

Race Road is a win-win for the town. Congratulations to the Selectmen who voted
for it.
6:48 pm est 

Re: CPC Funds for a Playground is a Misuse of Funds


No, Sharon is Not Responsible for global warming But...

She is surely responsible for numerous poor decisions and the foolish spending
of monies for projects we don't need.

The CPC funds being used for the playground should have been nixed as a wrong
use of CPC funds. It is not open space but a functional educational recreational
child-based project that should have come from the school funds--not CPC.

Doesn't Sharon know this? Then why go forward and push this wrong decision? Why?
3:08 pm est 

To: Hey Pay Attention

All I know is on my real estate tax bill due in October 2012 Ihave 2 surcharges
of 3% each; one for the land bank and one for CPA.
I did pay attention and paid my taxes
3:07 pm est 

Re: Police Station Location

According to the Fema Flood Zone Maps on the Town Website,  The police station
is not in a flood zone!
3:05 pm est 

New Police Station

The old Clem and Ursies would make a good site for a new Police
Station..Its worth around 700K thats a good start..we dont need anymore
restaurants for the 3 month summer season...
3:02 pm est 

Re: Playground Issue

Let ME clarify an issue. There is no longer a "land bank" tax of 3%. That
changed and is now refered to as the Community Preservation Act tax and that is
the 3% paid on your property taxes.

PAY ATTENTION!!!!!!
12:33 pm est 

Affordable Housing Accusations

Why don't the one or two people obsessed with affordable housing and who
constantly allege fraud prove it? There is a simple way, just drive through the
Shank Painter parking lot once a week for a couple of months both summer and
winter. Photograph license plates. If you see that a car disappears for months
at a time, just appears in season, or even better, has out of state plates, then
submit your evidence. Keep track of the count of total cars and see how it
varies by season.

You seem to have a lot of time on your hands and a penchant for sticking your
nose in everyone else's business so why not put it to use. Otherwise, without
proof of fraud, please stop making unsubtantiated accusations ad naseum on here.
12:31 pm est 

Re: CPC Funds for a Playground is a Misuse of Funds

"Rules are made to be broken" (changed sometimes). Government is known
to flex their authority and bend the rules ,depending on any # of issues and
identities. They're called loopholes! Welcome to the real world friend and to
Provincetown who are professional at the game.
12:29 pm est 

Police Station Location

"Yingling also asked about renovating the existing station, but building
committee Chairman Thomas Coen called it a "complete tear-down." from Cape Cod
Times

Just to note the current police station (and fire station) are in flood zones as
defined by US Army Corps of Engineers SLOSH model. Though it would take a strong
storm moving fast, lets not make the mistake that so many New Jersey towns are
dealing with now where a storm wiped out their public safety buildings because
of location in flood zones.

12:27 pm est 

Affordable Housing

Not me or any of the people I know who applied for the housing received it. We
have a number. 3 people I know who did get picked and were denied because they
made too much money.

One woman I heard of who works at a restaurant on commercial street with 2 kids
couldn't get out of her lease.

I don't see how someone who has a day job at an insurance company and a night
job waiting on tables is in need of affordable housing.

There is fraud, people need to be year round residents and not go to Florida for
the winter. People there do have a "reportable" job and a secret job. That is
fraud.

Look at all of the late model cars in the parking lot--tell me they are all
hurting. I hope that they enjoy their 3 week vacation in Paris, Vienna, and
Prague.
9:30 am est 

Playground Issue

First of all let me clarify one misconception ; Provincetown real estate
owners have 2 surcharges;3% of their tax bill goes to the Land Bank and
another 3% surchargegoes to The Community Preservation Act which
distributes 10% tothe following entities; Historic Preservation, Affordable
Housing and the PURCHASE of Open Space for recreational purposes.

The playground issue is not funded by the Land Bank Funds but by
the CPA.

Now that we have this defined I will go to my question.
Did the CPA purchase from the Town of Provincetown this parcel of
land to build a play yard or are the funds sanctioned by the CPA
being used to purchase swings, slides etc. and the construction and
installation of this playground?

My interpretation of this Act is;CPA funds can only be used for
"the purchase of Open Space forrecreational use" and not for the
construction and supplies for said Open Space.

This is something for the concerned people to look into.
9:27 am est 

Re: CPC Funds for a Playground is a Misuse of Funds

Re:   "I'm tired of poor decisions, almost ridiculous actions, by
this town hall. I have had enough. time for a change. Time to send Sharon off to
the land of retirement."


I'm tired of you constant unproductive attacks on the town manager.  Is global
warming her fault as well?  You're attacks serve no useful purpose other than to
show you have an axe to grind.

Please do us all a favor and go away.
9:23 am est 

Monday, December 3, 2012

Bad Neighbor & Poor Educator

The School Board has the right to build things on land it controls without the
usual approval process. That doesn't mean they should do it without first
hearing from those who might be impacted.

The Provincetown School is as bad a neighbor as it is a poor educator of
children.
8:27 pm est 

Re: CPC Funds for a Playground is a Misuse of Funds

I suggest you look up the law, realize it has had amendments that allow more
recreational uses and understand what you read as opposed to translating it into
what you think it says. What the town is doing is completey legal. Live with it.
It's so typical of someone to not pay attention until it effects them. Then they
cry all day and endlessly ask "HOW did this happen???" Pay attention next time,
be part of the discussion and voice your concerns. This ship has sailed and you
didn't make the boarding.
8:22 pm est 

Re: It's a Question of Due Process and the Law

I never said that I had a distaste for the political structure in the
town. I have a distaste for some feeling they are above the laws that have been
established for all and that is the right of open disclosure and proper legal
notification.  To equate landscaping with playground construction is a very poor
analogy. If you want to build , which this project is, you need to notify people
within a certain radius. It's as simple as that.

Land bank funds are for historical preservation use and to purchase green space
for the town's people to preserve the environment.  I will repeat that it is not
to be used for playground construction. I feel  that not only do I pay for the
schools but also I pay for land bank.  They are two separate expenditures as
outlined within the tax structure and should remain separate. They are taxed
separately.  I would object if the town took monies from the school budget to
pave Commercial Street. It is separate and should remain so.

Based on not given the opportunity, all the people within the legal radius for
notification, including the owners of the inn, have every right to object and
ask for due process. That entails meeting with all governing parties involved.
8:20 pm est 

CPC Funds for a Playground is a Misuse of Funds

  CPC was set up to purchase land, to rehab historic buildings and for
affordable housing. A playground does not fit in this category and should not
have been approved.

   Let the kids play in the elementary school yeard. That's where they belong.
this is pure nonsense.

    Isn't this the same group that approved $75,000 for the owner of the
Hawthorne Barn and that turned out to be a fiasco. here they go again!

     Is there any real leadership in this town? Can't we have some decisions
that just make sense?

     Sharon, sorry, but you have not done us well. We need a bright, energetic,
dynamic town manager. One who sees ahead and can take charge.

     I'm tired of poor decisions, almost ridiculous actions, by this town hall.
I have had enough. time for a change. Time to send Sharon off to the land of
retirement.
7:31 pm est 

Re: It's a Question of Due Process and the Law

I realize you have a distaste for the town politcal structure and those that
hold positions within but the use of the land bank funds to fund this project at
the school is completely legal. If it wasn't, the town would find out fast and
it would not be allowed. To notify the neighbors is a courtesy, not a legal
obligation. No different if you were landscaping your own property. You don't
need to notify your neighbor. They might object but if they hadn't done anything
to protect some part of your property from development that would have a
potentaially detrimental aspect to their property, live and learn. Did they ever
consider buying the development rights to that section of land, allowing for
quiet uses such as parking or storage? Buying the development rights of a
neighbors property is a new trend. Property owner still owns the property but
makes and agreement with the neighbor, for money, to not develop the property in
certain ways. The town just did it with Dunes Edge campground, no?
Fairbanks doesn't like it, too bad.
6:42 pm est 

It's a Question of Due Process and the Law

I do not abut the land where the playground is being installed nor do
I know what goes on in that space at night. However, I DO know that those that
live in a certain radius of the space have a right to be notified.  When that
isn't done and the people who may be affected do not get a chance to full
disclosure before construction, this is neglect by the town.  That is one of the
real problems with this issue as was stated in the letter posted by the
Fairbanks Inn.

My concern here is that if land bank funds ARE being used to construct the
playground that, it is misuse.  The school has a large enough budget to use
funds that they already have.  The land bank is marked to purchase land by the
town, not to construct play grounds or anything else.

To attack the inn owners who are both extremely nice people and to even infer
that they do not like children is pitiful, to say the least.  Get to the problem
which is how the whole thing has been handled by the school committee, the
selectmen and the town manager which is where the issue lies and should be
resolved among all parties involved.
6:21 pm est 

Route 6 Construction

Anyone know the reason why silt fences are being installed at the end of Route
6, just before the turn-off for Herring Cove? Looks like some kind of
construcion starting.
6:19 pm est 

Re: New Playground

      and        think their inn will be ruined by the happy sounds of children
in a playground.

Children represent community.

Next they will want the birds removed.
5:32 pm est 

Affordable Housing Complainer

Wow! This person is obsessed and needs to get HELP! I'm sure that the person
repeatedly posting about this has NEVER done a thing wrong in their life! Never
cheated on taxes or a partner, or broken a law, sat at a red light the whole
time at 2 am with no one within miles or done any thing else wrong....... Oh
except hating on your neighbors, ratting out your friends, not minding your own
business. Must be nice to know everything about everyone and be right all the
time! Provincetown doesn't have many perfect people, it's one of it's charms. It
isn't against the law to go on vacation.

I guarantee that none of the people living at Shank Painter is living high on
the hog while living in affordable housing. I'm sick of the hating comments

! I know who you are and I know you are not without sin......Get help already!
5:30 pm est 

Provincetown School Superintendent

I am a registered voter. I pay property tax. I am a yearround
resident. The school does not own property, the people of this town own the
property. Enough of this the school owns nonsense. Fire the sup. of schools. She
is                 causing all kinds of ill feelings.
5:25 pm est 

Affordable Housing Fraud

1. One low paying job to show you are poor and get the housing and one under the
table job to pay for your late model car.

2.Must be year round residency.

3.These must be assured for all of the people who have lost out and are
legitimately eligible for this  housing.
10:31 am est 

Re: New Playground

To: "One of the aspects of the proposed school playground is that it will
be open to the public 24 hours a day- 7 days a week."



Then close the beaches, woods, every parking lot without a street light, the
existing East and West End playgrounds, the little beach in front of St. Mary's,
the alley, no scratch that, multiple alleys, blah blah blah.  Agreed, heroin
grab bags are not pleasant to find.  Yet we invite families in and freely
endorse throwing condoms and penis shaped candies to children at the Carnivale
Parade, which is a "family" activity.  Come on.  Swing sets and teeter totters
do not necessarily mean drugs.  Drugs exist everywhere and anywhere and a new
playground should not increase the problem.

If this playground is to mature, perhaps one of the other playgrounds, East or
West, could be offered as a sacrifice to the parking lot Gods that reap the
funds that could be used in some small way to keep the sand in the new
playground clean and remove the dog doody deposited during the 24/7 schedule on
a regular basis.
10:29 am est 

Re: New Playground

Just watched the 11/16/12 public hearing conducted by the School Committee on
Comcast.

What happened to our sense of community?

Two members of the public made an Academy Award performance. Then I went to Trip
Advisor and discovered this is what they do every day.

A playground is essential to a community.

Anyone who objects to a playground should move to an island.

10:25 am est 

Monday Building Committee and Selectmen Meeting

The bulding committee will meet with the selectmen on Monday. Decisions will
have been made and explained.
10:24 am est 

Re: Playground - Evidence

There is a playground at Nickerson and Bradford. It has been there for years. It
is unlocked and accesible 24 hours a day. To my knowledge it has not impacted
neighbors at all.

There seems to be a contingent in Provincetown who want silence in this town.
Any tiny bit of noise or activity gets them going, particularly if people are
having fun. Everytime a business expands, a home is remodeled, etc. some
neighbors are running to the town "oh this will destroy our neighborhood, we'll
have drunks passed out in our bushes, heroin addicts shooting up the kids,
trucks clogging the streets, blah, blah, blah."

Face it. the place feels like god's waiting room from Oct-May. The silence in
many parts of town is scary and a steep deterrent to people considering living
here all year. Anything at all that can bring some joy, activity and signs of
life should be welcomed with open arms.

If you want total silence in your declining years then move to Truro or some
other suitably rural place with no neighbors. Otherwise, follow the advice of
Peter Francese and support things that bring sing of life to the remains of this
community. Or, buy some ear plugs.

10:22 am est 

School Playground

I think the Bed n' Breakfast place would actually do it's self a service by
zipping their lips. The playground when in use during School hours will probably
have limited noise because there are limited amount of School kids and the hours
it will be in use will I am sure be minimal. As for after School hours, I can't
vision someone coming to Ptown, parking and saying whoa, a playground. At night,
anyone using it will not be kids per say if it's not lighted. If any adults use
it, it will be because they wanna smoke pot or drink. What a greater view then
to be able to sit there and see if the cops are coming thru the parking lot or
via Winslow Street. In the summer, our Police bike patrols will I am sure make
frequent trips thru that area but don't let Chief Jaran convince you his
motorcycle patrol will keep an eye out as well. You can hear that useless piece
of machine coming from Shankpainter Rd. That motorcycle couldn't sneak up on ten
deaf people.
10:19 am est 

To the Fairbanks Inn Proprietors

What arrogance to expect for the schools not to build their park on school
property!  As if the school wasn't there when they bought.

                                                                                                         
              

10:16 am est 

Re: For Immediate Release-From Erik Yingling

I also disagree with Yingling about 100% of the time so it worries me
when I agree with him on any point.  I don't agree with him, I think he has
finally agreed with me.  Build the playground for the kids.
10:13 am est 

Saturday, December 1, 2012

Re: New Playground

One of the aspects of the proposed school playground is that it will
be open to the public 24 hours a day- 7 days a week.  As an neighbor I have
often been awakened by noise and partying in the parking lot after the bars
close and am concerned that the unattended playground will become a convenient
hang-out.  Last week a complete heroin kit was found there so you can see what
an unattended playground attached to the main parking lot could mean.  I, for
one, am not too concerned by the school children supervised during the school
year.   I am concerned by the rest of the time when it is completely unattended.
6:38 pm est 

Pleasant Street Car

Has anyone seen the car that's being buried on pleasant
Street????
6:27 pm est 

Re: New Playground

WHAT???? How nasty can the owners be? They can't have a playground next to their
beloved bed & breakfast? Are you kidding? How detrimental can it be? As Yingling
said, (and I disagree with him almost 100% of the time) it's a town project
being built on town property. Too bad for the Fairbanks owners. They've done
nothing in the past to protect their holy property from any development of the
town property so why should anyone have sympathy for people that are saying no
to kids playing on a playground? Gimme a break!! How low can it go in this town?
Yes to dog parks, yes to an AIDS memorial, yes to water fountains for dogs in
the middle of town and yes to every conceivable themed weekend (being as
targeted as they can be) but no to a playground for kids that live and visit
here? Maybe we should change the name of the town to Bizzarotown instead of
Provincetown.
5:48 pm est 

The Fairbanks Inn

I'm not sure I see a problem.  I walked up to where they are building the
playground on the hill some distance from the Inn's back yard.  I think the
school has a right to use their property as they need to. 

The Fairbanks is riled up because a playground, one that will used a couple of times a day for
twenty minutes during the off season (school year) is being installed up the
hill a distance from their back yard?  Face it the playgrounds aren't used very
often in our town, I can count on one hand the # of times I've seen kids using
them in the past year.

Seems like a big over reaction on their part.  It's school owned land, who is
the Fairbanks to say they can't use it as they see it?
5:40 pm est 

Banner Reality

The Banner is often perceived by many in town to be in collusion with
Town Hall. It's one of the reasons why Shout Out! is read by so many. The Banner
cherrypicks it's coverage. I stopped subscribing to it last year, and get
information about cultural events and topics from the Provincetown Magazine or
online. The Magazine has a clear goal, and  it's published consistent with that
goal. But for the most current coverage of news pertinent to Provincetown, the
Banner is a waste of my money.
5:31 pm est 

Re: So I'm Clear on Banner Article

"I'm curious about something. Why is it called "Women's Week" -- it has
never been 7 days
. First it was 4-5 day and then it became 10 days. What am
I missing."

Don't be so literal.  Why is it called Halloween when it's celebrated in town on
dates such as October 26, 27,  28 and 29?
5:28 pm est 

Re: For Immediate Release-From Erik Yingling

Mr. Yingling,

I agree that this town will be ENHANCED by a growing population of families and
children.

How are you as a  REALTOR attempting to market to families?  Do you even do an
outreach?  Please put your profession where your platitudes are.
11:44 am est 

Re: Columbus Day Weekend vs. Women's Week

Re: "It's the economy !!!!!,  stop trying to place blame. Things will
be better next year."


and


Re: "Oh you PBG folks, always trying to put a positive spin on things (especially
where your bank accounts are concerned.) Yeah, things are just peachy. Just keep
spreadin' that sunshine, someone might believe ya : )"




I'm not sure what you are trying to say.  All I can say is that 2012 is on track
to be the best or second best year ever for my business.  That's not a spin,
it's just some silly facts.

Columbus Day Weekend and Women's Week - neither were as good as year's past, but
Labor Day, Bear Week and Halloween were outstanding so it all has a way of
balancing itself out.
11:42 am est 

Provincetown School Superintendent - No Need!

I still do not understand why a school system as small as
Provincetown's needs a sup. of schools. We need to eliminate her position and
have the school comm. make more decisions. No more need for a rubber stamp for
any               ,shrill sup. Fire her now.
10:57 am est 

Rick Murray is Speaking the Truth

He is not flip-flopping. What the Banner printed was incorrect and quite
misleading. He has been a strong supporter of women and what the Banner printed
betrays his actions and his words.

As someone wrote, unfortunately Pru Sowers has been a strong "stenographer" of
and for Sharon Lynn. This is not the role of a reporter. She should be objective
and her reporting should not reflect her own biases and her own political and
gender-based ideology. Time for accountability. Time for GateHouse Publications
to take her to task and for them to be notified of such contiual distortions of
the truth.
10:53 am est 

Re: For Immediate Release-From Erik Yingling

With all due respect, can you please discuss where all the parents of all the
children and families you want to attract to Provincetown are going to work in
order to support their families?

10:51 am est 

What Cape Cod National Seashore Owes Provincetown

Where are all the elected politicians when it comes to sticking up for our town.
our moderator and several others have had the courage to speak out against
injustices by the Department of Interior and how they are ripping off the
locals. 

The Indians were paid $25. dollars for Manhattan and now what's it
worth?   In '61 the US gov't  agreed to pay $6,700. a year to Provincetown for
all service calls to the Fire Department, Rescue Squad and Provincetown Police.

$6700. for 1961 without an adjustment for inflation VIA the Consumer Price
Index(CPI)  according to my conservative estimate the Dept of Interior CCNS
owes Provincetown at least $4,000,000.00 for services rendered since 1961. 

Will someone please lead instead of being passive/aggressive regarding the greedy
Dept of Interior. 

Thank you....
9:48 am est 

Columbus Day Weekend vs. Women's Week
 
The economy is not what this is about -- not this time.
There used to be two separate events. At that time, everyone did just fine. The
problem began when the Women Innkeepers extended the event to include the
holiday weekend. Quite simply, men stopped coming to town for the holiday
weekend. That may not be PC to some but it is a fact.

Now, they've changed it back -- Bravo! It will take several years to get the
guys back. A much needed ad campaign by the PBG and VSB is needed to separate
the events.

I have nothing against Women's Week. Extend it in the other direction if you
want but leave the holiday weekend alone. Columbus Day Weekend always did fine
by itself when it was for everyone.

AND, this has nothing to do with Rick Murray (this time...) (but another event
person who used to be part of the Women Innkeepers).
I'm curious about something. Why is it called "Women's Week" -- it has never
been 7 days. First it was 4-5 day and then it became 10 days. What am I missing
here?

AND, since I'm venting -- for the people who are against "event theme weeks,
etc" -- except for Carnival, Holly Folly, The Yard Sale, and Women's Week -- all
are run by outside groups. The town has nothing to do with them. Would you think
it wise for the town to tell people they're not welcome here because we don't
like their group? That would be just great for the town's economy!
9:44 am est 

Re: So I'm Clear on Banner Article

I don't know about the Women's Week article, but the Banner is often wrong. It's
articles (and headlines) are designed to create drama when none exists. That's
bad enough. Sowers as a reporter makes it all the worse with a significant
problem with the facts. Sowers is however, a reliable stenographer for the Town
Manager. In this case, Murray called a spade a spade. Thank you.

Odd though the Banner slapped such a big advertiser in the face?   Maybe the
Crown will do an "advertising hiatus" to help promote more responsible
journalism?
9:40 am est 

Re: Columbus Day This Year

Re: "It's the economy !!!!!,  stop trying to place blame. Things will
be better next year."


Oh you PBG folks, always trying to put a positive spin on things (especially
where your bank accounts are concerned.) Yeah, things are just peachy. Just keep
spreadin' that sunshine, someone might believe ya : )
9:38 am est 

New Playground
 
 
The Fairbanks Inn needs your HELP!
 
Dear Citizens,

Hearing on School Playground Location/Please Help

 


School Playground

We are sorry to be asking you for your time during this busy holiday season. However, our business has been threatened by what we see are very ill-considered actions by the School Committee that we must address immediately. We believe the very viability of our business is at stake.

We are writing to you, a fellow member of our community, because your support may make the difference in whether we can prevail on an issue that will be before the School Committee at its next meeting on Tuesday, December 4, 2012 at 5:30 pm, in the library of the school (the former high school building). We are asking for your action in one or two ways: (1) Join us in attendance at the meeting to show your support for us and our neighbors, and/or (2) Write an email to Dr. Beth Singer, School Superintendent at bsinger@provincetown.k12.ma.us and The Members of the School Committee, in care of Laura Grandel at lgrandel@provincetown.k12.ma.us.

Here is the issue: In the past two weeks we have been shocked by and drawn into a dispute over the location of a new school playground which is planned to be constructed only a few feet away from our bed and breakfast, The Fairbanks Inn, located at 90 & 92 Bradford Street. The planned location is at the edge of the Grace Municipal Parking Lot in a part of the asphalt lot that has been, up until now, occupied by a line of several parking spaces. The Fairbanks Inn's Carriage House building, the back of our main building and our Inn's outdoor patio area, meditation garden and sundeck are only a few feet downhill from the proposed edge of the school playground. We are facing a new noise nuisance literally right in our backyard.

We only learned about the location of this planned playground during the week of November 11, 2012 when we retrieved several emails from our neighbors about the project. A bulldozer was beginning to dig up the asphalt at the proposed location. On Thursday, November 15, we received a notice (apparently prompted by our neighbors' outrage and outreach) from Dr. Singer inviting us to a public meeting the next evening, Friday, November 16, with the School Committee to discuss neighbors' concerns with the project. We attended the meeting. From our perspective it did not go well. The School Committee did not appear to grasp how detrimental to our bed and breakfast business a noisy, school playground within a few feet of our guestrooms and quiet outdoor relaxing spaces would be. Our concerns were met by dismissive and even hostile behavior. Relocation of the playground was not on the table.

We were alarmed that in determining the location of the playground - which is being funded by Community Preservation funds - there was apparently no consideration given to the negative impact of the noise on our business and on our guests' and our neighbors' quiet enjoyment of our properties, an impact that if properly considered and weighed against other potential location options, would have led the School Committee to decide on another, much more appropriate, location for the new playground.

The School Committee and officials informed us that the playground will be used by elementary school children, ages five to twelve, 35 children at a time for recess periods during the day. Further, one of the stipulations of the Community Preservation funds was that this playground would also be open for public use.

The proposed school playground, if it is allowed to go forward in its present location, will change the very nature of our business. It will permanently disrupt the quiet environment our guests have come to enjoy and expect over the years. It will cost us returning guests and it will ultimately erode our revenue to the point where we will not be able to sustain our business.

We had no abutters' notice of this "change of use." We had no opportunity to weigh in during the process of determining the location. Frankly, we never dreamed that the School Committee and School officials would think it was acceptable to build a new playground so close to a bed and breakfast inn and our other neighbors' residences. Now that we finally have notice -- via bulldozer -- and are desperate to voice our concerns, we fear that our voices are not loud enough to stop the planned construction and persuade the School Committee and School officials to reconsider the location of the playground. At this point, the School Committee and School officials do not even think that our argument about the noise intrusion and how it will impact our business are real.

That's where you come in.

Please join us in demanding that the School Committee stop this construction now and choose a more suitable location for the playground. Even if the noise does not impact you; even if you don't care about lost revenue to the town in reduced parking lot revenue or reduced room tax revenue; even if it does not concern you whether or not we succeed or fail as a business; even if you don't know us or like us; even if it is ONLY because you believe strongly that we should all have notice and due process so that our rights are respected and protected by the powers that be in this town and because you agree that the way this went down stinks - that's good enough for us. Any support would be greatly appreciated, if not for the issue then at least to register grievances to the process and the obvious, utter indifference and contempt demonstrated to good, taxpaying and law abiding, civic minded citizens.

 


Then please, attend the meeting and/or write an email (see email addresses above) in support. We promise you we will have your back if it happens to you. If you need further information, feel free to call us at (508) 487-0386.

Thanks again for your time.

Kathleen Fitzgerald

Alicia Mickenberg

The Fairbanks Inn

9:32 am est 

For Immediate Release-From Erik Yingling

Dear School Committee,

If you think it would be helpful please feel free to read this letter at your
next meeting.

I can't speak for the rest of the board but I am fully in support of the School
Committee's decision. This process has been ongoing for years and it was
approved by Town Meeting. Everyone deserves an opportunity to be heard but the
playground is being built on land owned by the Town of Provincetown on school
property.

I am saddened by the closure of our high school in 2013 but I am very optimistic
about our ability to attract more families to Provincetown to put their kids in
our Pre-school and K-8 programs.  Town Meeting offered near unanimous support of
the rehab our historic high school building. I believe this is also a strong
vote of confidence for our school system and it is indicative of a community
that stands with our children.

This is a beautiful and safe place to raise children.  Let's work together to
bring more children to Provincetown.

Selectman Erik Yingling
(774)216-6400

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