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  Mark Silva: A Rich Goodby

The church was packed. There was even a long line to enter St. Peter's. There were people sitting along the side pews. All the pews were filled.

We were there to attest to your legacy, to what you gave to this town and to all of us. You brought the energy for the Portuguese Festival and revived it. You brought the energy for the Regatta and revived this wonderful celebration. You gave of yourself, of your time and of your vision.

The town was there to bid you farewell and to thank you for everything that you have done for us. And you did it with humor, joy and a sense of much celebration. You knew how to throw a party and taught the town to do it too!

You were unique and you will be missed. But you would not leave without our thanks and without a party at the Red Inn. We were there with tears and we were there with much laughter and gratefulness for you.

Adieu, Mark! May the angels carry you on holy wings into eternal peace and celebration!

 

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Friday, November 30, 2012

Re: Columbus Day This Year

It's the economy !!!!!,  stop trying to place blame. Things will be better next
year.
5:30 pm est 

Re: So I'm Clear on Banner Article

Amen Rick Murray
4:01 pm est 

Re: AIDS Memorial

One big diff between AIDS and any other fatal disease:
How many women w breast cancer do you know who were kicked out of their
homes/jobs/schools due to their diagnosis?
How many with hepatitis were shunned and or feared due to their infection?
Did any of your friends with cancer get refused a ride in an ambulance because
the professionals driving that vehicle thought they might get cancer if they
touched them or breathed the same air as the infected???

If you are really a gay man as you state in your post, are you really that
ignorant? Or are you under the age of 22, in which case I will give you a pass.
However, if you lived through the 80s and early 90s and truely don't know what
makes AIDS different; what makes people infected with this disease feel
osticized (thankfully less so now than in years past), then I actually feel very
sad for you.

This town should have, indeed deserves to have, a memorial to the fact that
"back in the day" this town was one of the few places on EARTH where folks dying
of AIDS were taken care of, held, and made to feel human in their last days.
Honestly, do you really think anyone wants to put up a memorial to THE VIRUS?
Tell me, when you look at the war memorial do you wonder why we put up a stone
to commemorate Hitler or do you understand that it is for the brave souls who
fought and defeated him?

And in my opinion, any one who thinks "town hall is not the place" for such a
memorial, then explain why it is appropriate for the Rose Dorethea stone?
Because of the meaning this race had for the important Portuguese community? Do
you really need it explained that gay peolple also immigrated to this town, and
the recent past had a little incident that killed many of us while the country
(provincetown and NYC excluded) ignored them, and we feel the town should be
remembered for it's compassion, and also that the YOUNG young vital people whose
lives were lost to this disease deserve remembrance as much at least as a boat
that won a race once????
3:58 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

May the new homeowners in affordable housing on Shankpainter Road be
blessed with peace,happiness,and long life in thier new and pristine
surroundings.I was a former skeptic who now thinks its an attractivevillage.
It's already hard to remember what wasn't there before.We adjust to changes
every day in our own lives so we can adjust to this too! Be happy for the new
residents.Not everyone abuses the system. That's been going on since the
beginning of time,always will be here and everywhere else.Administrators may be
negligent to not find it but don't punish all the honest people for a much
needed home.Merry Christmas to all with prayers for peace in the world.
3:50 pm est 

Re: So I'm Clear on Banner Article

I think Murray is a case of thou protest too much. He sound like a
raving lunatic frantically trying to do some damage control. He is the Town's
new flipflopper!
3:45 pm est 

Re: So I'm Clear on Banner Article

Rick, I think we all got your number.
3:43 pm est 

Thursday, November 29, 2012

Protected Clique

Sometimes I think it would be nice if I was one of the 'protected
clique'  for whom the blogmaster censors any negative comments.  But, I have so
little respect for the blogmaster and his little clique that I'd prefer to stay
outside of that destructive group.
10:52 pm est 

Some Thoughts

Woman's Week: I just figured the origional Inn Owners won't give up
the power and since they on the most part live somewhere else...they just got
tired..

Aids Memorial: I'd. like to propose an alternate site...Foley House...It exists
because of Aids and the front Yard is the spot

Bike Lane: I'm old enough I remember the mid 70's when the powers that be
decided they would follow the state and ban bicycles from going east on
Commercial.

What a nightmare! Imagine the bars closing and dumb asa summer cops
directing all bikes to the hills of Bradford. End result, too many accidentses,
the state agreed...wow was it a wonderful protest, hundreds of Bikes, totally
screwedup traffic all day.

Amazing how history keeps repeating it self over and over again...
I remain the Pebble on the beach...
10:47 pm est 

Vertual Reality

Re: "Now that things have reverted to normal it is to be expected
to see a drop in Columbus Day Weekend to drop until word gets out that it is
safe for men to return for Columbus Day weekend. My 3 cents on the topic.  .  ."


Sounds like it was written by the person.  It's the beauty of this blog, one
person can write the same thing multiple times and it will appear there is
bigger support for an idea or belief than actually exists.

Heck, I know because I've done it many times myself.
10:41 pm est 

Re: Theme Weeks

Do you think Bear Week helps Women Inn Keepers? Or how about Circuit
Boy week? Or Leather Mates Week? Women's week should be in the middle of summer.
Men's theme weeks have dominated the warm summer months too long profiting we
know whom.
10:39 pm est 

Women's Week-Another Story of Greed in Provincetown

All these people posting that Women's Week has hurt business just
underscores what many of us have been saying for years and that is: THEME WEEKS
hurt business. Sure, they may actually increase revenue for businesses that
cater to the specific group targeted by the theme, but they turn away countless
others who don't want to deal with a town consisting entirely of women,
leathermen, crossdressers, gays with children, bears, babydykes, circuit boys,
etc., etc., etc.

And the last poster got it right, it all comes down to GREED.
10:30 pm est 

Re; So I'm Clear on Banner Article

To the blogger who posted his or her statement, let me be perfectly clear and to
the point, the article by Pru Sowers whereupon she uses my name and place of
business is FALSE, INACCURATE and MISLEADING. If you have an issue with this
call me and I would be happy to give you my input and thoughts on Women's week
and October tourism. Ihave always supported Women's week and any other promoter,
entity or business which helps our tourism market PERIOD. If you rely on
articles written by Pru Sowers as the "truth" then this issue is a waste of my
time!

Rick Murray
10:27 pm est 

Cabral's Pier

CABRALS PIER should have been bought by the town when they renovated
macmillan....and their should be no pier corporation....a wharf commission with
7 members from the community answering directly to no one but the board of
selectmen

THE TOWN NOW HAS SIX MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE ON THE PIER CORP.
ANSWERING DIRECTLY TO THE BOARD OF SELECTMEN! THEY ARE NICE PEOPLE. BUT THE
MACMILLAN PIER HAS NEVER BEEN PROFITABLE.

THIS IS NOT, I REPEAT NOT GOING TO BE PART OF YOUR LEGACY. FIND A NEW PROJECT
THAT DOESN'T COST US MILLIONS IN TAXES. AND FIND SOMETHING YOU HAVE A HISTORY OF
TURNING INTO A PROFIT LIKE SELLING             .
10:07 pm est 

Columbus Day Weekend Was the Quietest Ever

I don't Know the Reason but Columbus Day Weekend Was the Quietest Ever

It's as if no one came. It's as if they went elsewhere or stayed home. I think
it's the economy and perhpas it was less expensive to go up north and see the
colors of fall. But people did not arrive here this year.

It was the quietest time I can remember for Columbus Day weekend. I don't see
that anyone's to blame but it simply was silent and rather empty. It's as if the
season ended at Labor Day.
10:03 pm est 

Re: Cabral's Pier

"CABRALS PIER should have been bought by the town when they renovated
macmillan....and their should be no pier corporation"



The town should NEVER, EVER buy Cabral's.  There is no benefit to the town to do
so.  If it's such a great opportunity let some enterprising individual purchase
it.  The fact that no one else has stepped forward speaks volumes.  It's not a
smart move.
10:00 pm est 

Women's Week-Another Story of Greed in Provincetown

A bit of history from a longtime guesthouse owner:

Before Women's Week was increased to include Columbus Day Weekend -- EVERY
guesthouse in town was full for Columbus Day weekend with men, women and
whomever. All the houses were also full from about Wednesday through the
following weekend for Women's Week.

What happened is quite simple. When men looked at event calendars and saw that
Columbus Day weekend was Women's Week -- they stopped coming. It took a few
years but after awhile the cancellations over Columbus Day weekend from guys
were very common. We used to get 3 nights over the holiday and 4 nights over
Women's'Week. After the first few years of the extended WW, we were lucky to
fill 2 nights on each weekend. We had weekdays with hardly any rooms at all. I
also know that this is true of most of the houses in town owned by men. We've
been complaining to the VSB, PBG and WIP for years!

There simply are not enough women who come to the event to fill every Inn for 10
days. What the Women Innkeepeers have done may help their inns but they hurt
everyone else. They've stretched out a 5 day event to 10 and are basically
getting the same amount of women.

It will take several years before men realize that Columbus Day weekend is not
just for women anymore. It won't happen overnight. So, we have one event planner
complaining that she made less money -- what about everyone else?

We had a win-win situation for everyone until a certain event planner with
strong ties to the WIP ruined it for everyone else.

I can also attest that the women who did come to our house during the Columbus
House weekend were not happy. They felt the town didn't have the same energy it
had before the event was extended. Plus, none ever came for the entire 10 days
and were not thrilled that most of the big events always came during the end of
the second weekend.

Another story of greed in Provincetown.
5:34 pm est 

Re: Women's Week-My 3 Cents

From a former Guesthouse owner:
For years Women's Week started on the Monday AFTER Columbus Day. When it
switched to include Columbus Day Weekend we saw our bookings for Columbus Day
plummet. For whatever reason, Men did not want to come to Provincetown during
Women's Week. At the same time, the first weekend of Women's Week(Columbus Day
Weekend) did not attract enough women to fill anyone except the Women;s
Innkeepers Guesthouses. We had empty rooms plus rooms of women complaining that
there were not enough women in town. Men started staying away from Columbus Day
weekend in droves.Now that things have reverted to normal it is to be expected
to see a drop in Columbus Day Weekend to drop until word gets out that it is
safe for men to return for Columbus Day weekend. My 3 cents on the topic.
5:30 pm est 

Cabral's Pier

CABRALS PIER should have been bought by the town when they renovated
macmillan....and their should be no pier corporation....a wharf commission with
7 members from the community answering directly to no one but the board of
selectmen
5:26 pm est 

Re: AIDS Memorial

MEMORIAL DEALING WITH THE AIDS CRISIS

For me, the biggest impact that Provincetown had was the out pouring of help
from the community who took care of people with AIDS.

Please remember that the whole country was scared; people wanted to put on
rubber gloves to even make change in the store. A priest told me that he was
called to a home in another state where the rescue squad didn't want to enter to
take a sick person due to AIDS.

Here in provincetown I know of people who devoted their time to their friends
and who took care of them and took them to appointments etc. People helped pay
their rent.

My vision of a memorial represents that in my minds eye. This isn't about a
deadly virus, it is about a community that stood tall and staunchly supported
and cared for the sick while other communities were running away from people
with AIDS.
11:37 am est 

Cabral's Wharf

"We do not need to spend millions of dollars on another capital project
so that those in the autumn of their careers......."



Did you hear which Selectman wants the Town to spend millions on buying Cabral's
wharf? Dumb idea! We can't even turn a profit on McMillan Pier.

I'm glad more mature people represent the majority of the BOS!

9:25 am est 

Bike Lane

'Those cars parked to the right of the fog line are on private
property, no on street parking is allowed."



No they are not parked on private property. In fact, there is nine feet of right
of way in some places including the slope on the north side.
9:23 am est 

Municipality Equality Index

The Human Rights Campaign has released its first ever Municipality Equality
Index which rates cities based on 47 criteria falling under six broad
categories: non-discrimination laws; relationship recognition; the municipalitys
employment practices; inclusiveness of city services; law enforcement; and
municipal leadership.

Boston and Cambridge join 9 other cities in the U.S. who scored a perfect 100%.

According to the HRC the 100 cities that scored 100% incorporate excellent
policies ranging from non-discrimination laws, equal employee benefits, and
cutting-edge city services.

Provincetown and Northampton were also included in the Index. Northampton
received a score of 64% and Provincetown came in at 59%. Both scored 0 in the
Law Enforcement category which significantly impacted their overall score.


http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/blogs/bostonspirit/2012/11/boston_and_cambridge_score_100.htmlin
the Index 25% received a score of 80% or higher.
9:21 am est 

AIDS Memorial

Has anyone really explained to the public what the purpose of the memorial is to
be?  perhaps if they did, we could decide
if we supported it, and then where it should go. I for one
don't really get the concept of having a memorial to a vicious virus. I think we
create memorials to things we wish to remember. i look forward to the day when
we can all forget this awful virus, much like some of the other diseases that we
have the luxury of forgeting about.

so if we are creating a memorial, what exactly are we deciding to memorialize? 
i dont' get it. Are we memorializing those lost?  we've lost tons of friends.
but did those folks actually do something that we think makes them deserving of
a memorial? not really . they suffered gallantly and bravely just like my
friends who have died of breast cancer and some other lethal diseases.

are we wishing to memorialize the wonderful things our townspeople have done to
help & support people that have suffered from this virus?  now thats a different
animal isn't it.

its not an AIDS memorial then, but a COMPASSION & Caring Memorial

would someone please get the folks who want this memorial to explain exactly
what its purpose is? that sure would help me decide where it should go.

and by the way, i am a gay year rounder of many many years who has lost many
friends from this awful virus and many other friends of hepatitis and cancer and
i am not clear what the purpose of this memorial is.

lets get some answers.


9:16 am est 

Enough Already

We're soooo sick of reading about               in the paper..geez she
lost her job, the town contested her unemployment..we all know what
happened..leave her alone..my gawd!! The media should really look into "other
things" in the DPW department.
9:12 am est 

Re: Bike Lane

I am not sure if a bike lane is a good or bad idea. I do know that
people volunteered their time to try to make it work. So before you dismiss the
efforts of a few sincere individuals, get off your tukass and get involved.It
still blows my mind at how few people go to board meetings, and fewer still
speak their mind in an open meeting. Sad.
9:09 am est 

So I'm Clear on a Banner Article:

The owner of the                 who also sits on the     complained about
Women's Week starting Columbus Day weekend because it was cutting into his
Columbus Day weekend business.

Women's Week cuts back to a six day event and according to every business owner
I've talked to the results are very bad for many businesses in town despite how
the Tourism Director is spinning it.  I talked to a number of inn owners who
stated that while they had a very good summer the Columbus Day-Women's Week
weekends were the worst they've seen in years.  And not one inn holder stated
they complained about a ten day Women's Week, but a number did complain about
the reduced days.

                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                         
                                                             
9:08 am est 

Re: Harbormaster

Harbormaster Fate?


"Does anyone know if the harbor master will own up to his mistakes and resign or
will he have to be fired?"



Has the Harbormaster been charged with wrong doing?

Has the Pier Corps placed the Harbormaster on administrative leave?

I know it's cold outside, but bitter, party of one, please come in from the
cold....
8:57 am est 

Re: Police Department

"I'm sorry, but it's not normal to be frightened by police officers."


I am sorry to inform you, but many residents are scared of this particular
police department. My neighbors were beaten and moved out of town because of
them. Shouldn't we care?
8:54 am est 

Re: Bike Lanes

 "I hope they take a look at the parking in the Miller Hill area of
Bradford. Parking should be banned from Howland to Brewster"


Driving Bradford today, parking is already 'banned' on Bradford. Those cars
parked to the right of the fog line are on private property, no on street
parking is allowed.

Yet you are right, it's a dangerous stretch of road. Why not adopt the type of
signs Chatham uses something like:

"Bicycles discouraged from (Howland) to (Pearl) please consider using
(Commercial) Street"

8:52 am est 

Get a Better Plan

We do not need to spend millions of dollars on another capital project
so that those in the autumn of their career can wet their beaks one last
time...PROVINCETOWN...LISTEN UP...We need to fix and improve what we have and
utilize it to its full potential..These prima donna's who think they are
entitled to a new facility are acting likespoiled schoolgirls who need to run to
the mall and spend money to make them feel good.  Get a better plan  not 10-15
million..We know it costs money to upgrade but not that much!!!!
8:50 am est 

Re: Bike Lane

OK, so with all the people (or perhaps is just one or two posting
repeatedly) writing in saying they hope the bike lane doesn't happen, does
anybody have a better idea?

Or do you just plan to go right back to complaining about the bicyclists on
Commercial St. in summer and how they are a hazard and a danger and are scaring
the tourists and oh, god forbid we do anything to upset the flow of money into
town when you still have to pay for that condo and your boat!

Seriously, if you don't have a better solution either let the bike lane happen
or stop complaining about bikers. They are a reality and are here to stay. We
are never going to ban bikes in this town and police have better things to do
than write tickets to a kid on a Schwinn.
8:49 am est 

Priorities

1. We have a harbormaster who must be fired.

2. We have fraud that is rife among some the Affordable Housing tenants and
remember, there are many affordable housing units in this town in other
developments. Our housing specialist needs to fetter it out.

It isn't fair for the scores of people who legitimately need affordable housing
to have the scammers in there.

3. We need to maintain our buildings and build a new police station.

4. complaining about the bike lane or the new street is worthless energy--these
other matters must take precedence.
8:45 am est 

Wednesday, November 28, 2012

Harbormaster Fate?

Does anyone know if the harbor master will own up to his mistakes and resign or
will he have to be fired?

As a taxpayer, my money goes to support this town and every single penny from
every source should be put in the town coffers.

It is a simple thing to map the mooring field as I've mapped other things in the
past. This harbormaster must go!
8:46 am est 

Re: Bike Lanes

I hope they take a look at the parking in the Miller Hill area of Bradford.
Parking should be banned from Howland to Brewster. With the hill the sight lines
are terrible and with parked cars there is no safe way for cars, bikes and
pedestrians to pass safely through there. Then in the summer you have a large
majority of the summer workers staying in the east end and Truro passing through
on bikes or walking not to mention pedi-cabs.
8:38 am est 

Let's Say Goodbye to the Bike Lane

This is a nutty idea. It just doesn't work with our streets and our
configuration. Maybe on paper it looks good but it won't work.

I hope it just disappears like the snow in spring.
8:36 am est 

Re: AIDS Memorial

Wake Up! People are not against an Aids memorial

They are against town hall as the place to have it. Look at this town. Wake up.
Look in the mirror.

How sad your poor remarks really are.
8:34 am est 

Tuesday, November 27, 2012

Re: Bike Lanes

I hope that the issue of a bike lane on bradford street, at the
expense of parking spaces and auto access, can now be put on the back burner,
and perhaps forgotten.

How many bikers use bradford street in the summer other than from Galeforce to
the beach. Instead, they choose to terrorize the pedestrians on commercial
street.

12:57 pm est 

Re: Commercial Street Paving

Re: "That is if the plant doesn't close for the season
due to nobody else in their right mind paving at this time of year. Not if they
want a good product!
Typical"


You are grasping at straws to find something to complain about.

Typical !
12:48 pm est 

Mr. Crystal Ball

You are surely one of the greats when it comes to democracy. seems discussion
about issues is not in your arena. Surely you radically fail to understand the
power of the people to speak and address issues.
12:44 pm est 

Re: AIDS Memorial

Re: "I've heard some whispered comments  that a contingent of folks in
town don't believe we should have a 'gay memorial'.  Let's be honest about why
some are against this memorial and use the location as something to hide behind."




You have spoken of the unspoken truth.  That's not suppose be said out loud or
in writing.  Bad blogger, bad blogger.
12:41 pm est 

Town Meeting Voted Yes

Even with the constant flow against the school repairs printed here..it passed
almost overwhelmingly.

Even the Finance Committee realizes that we need a new police station. As a
taxpayer, I'm tired of the locals who voted down these repairs years ago and who
years ago voted for the funeral parlor instead of a new station.

You should have voted yes years ago instead of putting this burden on us, your
children. Now it is our responsibility to do the right thing.
10:56 am est 

Commercial Street Paving

Now that winter temps are upon us and the snow is about to possibly fly this
week, looks like Commercial Street will be a gravel road for the rest of the
winter. Or even better, the pavers will lay down the pavement after it's cooled
way too much on it's way from the pavement plant in Dennis and will be a
substandard finished product. That is if the plant doesn't close for the season
due to nobody else in their right mind paving at this time of year. Not if they
want a good product!

Typical

10:55 am est 

Re: AIDS Memorial

What about a Holocaust memorial? Don't forget the Armenian Holocaust too. How
about a memorial to womens rights? 9/11? What about polio or small pox? Civil
rights and to those that died senslessly? And what would an AIDS memorial send a
tribute to? The war memorial reminds us of the brave selfless men and women that
served in our armed serveces that gave their lives for this country.
10:53 am est 

Monday, November 26, 2012

Re: Prediction

"I think Austin Knight will once again forcefully push for the new
station, and it will fail as will he in his re election bid."


Just like you predicted the article for school repairs wouldn't pass!
2:23 pm est 

Re: Prediction

"Police station....couple of MyPacc'ers plus Barbara Rushmore will go
ballistic and bore town meeting to tears. Voters will overwhelmingly approve. At
least that is what my crystal ball says."



I think Austin Knight will once again forcefully push for the new station, and
it will fail as will he in his re election bid.
10:59 am est 

Re: AIDS Memorial

Just wanted to point out that the Town Hall area is not just about wars fought.
The Rose Dorothea marker is on the lawn too. Isn't this a nod to the Portuguese
of this town. God forbid that an AIDS Memorial be close by!
9:43 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

". . .As another blogger pointed out, this is not news, it's been
happening for years and continues to happen and EVERYBODY knows about
it. For town officials to pretend they have no knowledge of this fraud.  .  ."



I don't agree.  There are always rumors of people abusing the system and this
isn't only a Provincetown issue, you hear people all over the country saying
welfare recipients are abusing the system, let's drug test anyone who receives
government benefits, etc.

Unless a citizen has facts and contacts a public official with their facts so
the official or their designee can investigate nothing is going to happen.   The
citizen can demand their name be held confidental similar to the whistleblowers
law.  I believe each affordable housing resident has to re-affirm their
eligibility each year.  Does someone lie?  It's possible, but I think the
majority are honest.  The housing person is going to believe the information she
is given unless she has verifiable information of abuse.  I saw a BMW parked in
front of unit XYC, they must be abusing the system is not something she is going
to investigate.

The housing administrator is not going out on witch hunts based on rumors flung
on this blog.
9:41 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

AFFORDABLE HOUSING ACCOUNTABILITY

How does a server at a restaurant who also has a professional job during the day
rate an affordable housing apartment?

People are living in these apartments who were able to live here for years,
drive a late model car and take vacations. Now they are living in affordable
housing.

9:39 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

WHISTLE BLOWER FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING

What you are asking is for a whistle blower to come forward with names and
examples of fraud. Why should a private person  have to do this?

There are hundreds of people in this town lined up for affordable housing who
legitimately deserve it. Why does this fraud continue?

Initiate a town wide examination of all affordable housing. Focus on income: is
what they say they make actually what they make? What about all of the under the
table jobs?

Are they year round. I overheard people talking over a month ago about people
who go away for the winter.

Somehow the town needs to do this. Contact the town  manager so she  can go
befor the board with a handfull of requests.
9:38 am est 

Prediction:

The building committe will complete its work and deliver a suitable sized police
station plan at an appropriate site. Architects will price it. BOS will agree.
FinCom will wrings its hand over cost with Mike           trying to look tough
in preparation for running for BOS. A few of Yingling's minions will grouse but
in end FinCom will approve. A couple of MyPacc'ers plus Barbara Rushmore will go
ballistic and bore town meeting to tears. Voters will overwhelmingly approve. At
least that is what my crystal ball says.
9:36 am est 

Re: Provincetown Governance

Re: WRONG: "We had house guests in and out all summer long, and most
mentioned our police presence."



This is obviously the same person who has been writing in for months complaining
about this issue. Always referring to it as a "police state" and always citing
his friends and/or guests who were shocked/alarmed/frightened at the amount of
police officers in town. Always the same story, always clearly written by the
same person who is trying to make an issue where none exists.

I'm sorry, but it's not normal to be frightened by police officers. They are
here to protect us. It's their job. Where do your friends come from? Some place
where there are no police? Why are they so confused that we have police in this
town?


Wrong, wrong, wrong, officer defender of your useless  position doing nothing
but sucking the tax payers dry to pay your bloated salary so your         can
drive around policing nothing or better yet sitting watching tv at the wharf 24
hours a day.  F N ridiculous, way too many of you being led by the big chief in
town hall. The force can be cut in half.  Has anyone with a mortgage seen how
much extra is being escrowed for taxes??  Hire an asset manager to run the town
like a for profit business. TOO many employess, way too much spending.

PS this is about being fiscally responsible!
9:31 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

Once Jaran gets a hold of the Pier Corporation, your only hope is the Police
Chief decides he next wants to take over the Housing Authority. Only then will
random enforcement take place, At least during the take over (finger pointing)
phase.

Otherwise, you are pissing in the wind. No one is going to do anything to rock
anyone else's boat. In Provincetown everyone is gaming something. The affordable
housing eligibility or pier commercial fishing slip fees or condo conversion
regulations or fishing quota regulations or benefiting from zoning board
favoritism  or historic board arbitrary orthodoxy.

It's all one big bag of snakes.
9:13 am est 

Sunday, November 25, 2012

Re: Police Station

I dont' Think It's Only one Person concerned About too Many Police

It's one thing when they do community policing. this is great. they are a
presence and we feel that they are here--on bicycles and on foot.

but to have the police down by the harbor is not good nor a welcoming image. it
does bring a sense of concern for tourists. It is frankly unnecessary. Put
people who know the ocean and know boats there. Not police whose work is
different.

This is a small town. Too often the police themselves in their attempt to grow
seem to forget this. let's not.
10:46 pm est 

Re: AIDs Memorial

Re:  "Have the memorial be in the midst of all of us--not the isolating
location of town hall. . ."


I don't have a strong opinion of the location of a memorial.  However, you don't
get more 'in the midst of all of us' than town hall.  How does anyone think town
hall is an 'isolating location'?

I've heard some whispered comments  that a contingent of folks in town don't
believe we should have a 'gay memorial'.  Let's be honest about why some are
against this memorial and use the location as something to hide behind.
10:40 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

AFFORDABLE HOUSING FRAUD

I don't have the guts to stand up and speak out publically at a selectmen's
meeting or in a letter to the editor and state the affordable housing fraud. I'd
be jeered and spit at and people would get back at me.

The housing person needs to do this..
10:38 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

Re: "If you are serious about this the appropriate way to make it
happen would be to bring an article forward at town meeting.

On the other hand if you have actual knowledge of fraud then you have an
obligation to report it.

If you aren't willing to give town staff enforcement capability through an audit
or don't have any actual knowledge of fraud then you may want to consider
finding something else to occupy your time."


So, what you're saying is that unless someone is willing to stand up publicly
during town meeting and point fingers, risking anger and ostracism by friends
and neighbors, then nothing is going to happen? The problem won't be addressed
otherwise?

Sorry, but that doesn't seem right. Seems like a convenient way for town
officials to avoid the issue. As another blogger pointed out, this is not news,
it's been happening for years and continues to happen and EVERYBODY knows about
it. For town officials to pretend they have no knowledge of this fraud is
absolutely ridiculous. They all read this blog (many officials have posted on
this blog.)

Just another case of the town sweeping a huge problem under the rug. Out of
sight, out of mind. Their negligence in this matter is pathetic and an insult to
those who play by the rules.
9:03 pm est 

AIDs Memorial

I Don't Believe the AIDs Memorial should Be at Town hall

those who died and suffered were not generally connected to town hall. Plus, it
seems the memorials there are limited to veterans and wars fought. That makes
sense. I would rather see an AIDs memorial at the waterfront. There at the sea;
there at the point of land; there were the departed had many memories. It should
be near the sea and at the edge of land. Not town hall. It's just not the right
place for this memorial.

and for those who I knew who died of AIDs, town hall was not the center nor the
focus of their lives. It was more the land of Provincetown, the importance of
the sea and their lives amid all of us. Have the memorial be in the midst of all
of us--not the isolating location of town hall.
2:44 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

"There should be a town-wide audit of everyone living in affordable housing to...."


I completely agree with this post.  The blatant abuse is a slap in the face to
those who play by the rules.

2:42 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

Re: "There should be a town-wide audit of everyone living in affordable
housing to ensure that a) the person is actually living there and has not sublet
the unit for the winter while they go on an extended vacation and b) they are
not making huge amounts of unreported income that would disqualify them from
affordable housing."


If you are serious about this the appropriate way to make it happen would be to
bring an article forward at town meeting.

On the other hand if you have actual knowledge of fraud then you have an
obligation to report it.

If you aren't willing to give town staff enforcement capability through an audit
or don't have any actual knowledge of fraud then you may want to consider
finding something else to occupy your time.
2:41 pm est 

Re: Police Station

Re: "3.How can we ensure that the new police station will be built?"


Keep in mind that one person on this blog constantly writes about the 'police
state', officers with guns, etc.  The majority of the residents of our town
realize that we need a new police station.  We want it to be only what is
needed, nothing more, nothing less.

Anyone who watched the Building Committee forum on TV or attended in person can
see what a thorough job they are doing.  I myself was quite impressed.  People
need to follow their work and watch their updates.  We put them in place to do
their job, we need to let them do their job.

I think most residents in our town acknowledge we need a new police station. 
Some may question where it will be built and that answer hasn't been yet
provided.  Once the Building Committee provides their recommendation we will
have a discussion on their recommendations and see where we go from there.
11:39 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

Re: "How can thse poor people have the fancy SUVs and trucks and late
model cars if they are so poor? How many are going away for the winter? Stop the
fraud."


You can complain and point out the obvious all you want, nothing is ever going
to be done about this. Everybody knows fraud is being committed, it's been
happening for years! Nobody will look into it. It's been brought up repeatedly
and nobody investigates. They tell everyone there are rules and guidelines but
everyone knows they don't actually enforce them, so of course everyone takes
advantage works the system.

I'm not sure why nobody will take the time to investigate this issue (despite
numerous complaints.) Maybe the people in charge of enforcing the rules have
some sort of interest in making sure the widespread fraud doesn't get exposed?
Maybe they just don't want the bad publicity or maybe they don't want to have to
deal with all the paperwork exposure would certainly generate?

There should be a town-wide audit of everyone living in affordable housing to
ensure that a) the person is actually living there and has not sublet the unit
for the winter while they go on an extended vacation and b) they are not making
huge amounts of unreported income that would disqualify them from affordable
housing.
11:37 am est 

Re: Police Station

"3.How can we ensure that the new police station will be built?"

the only way it gets built is if town meeting doesn't have to vote on it. maybe
the seashore can build it and rent it to the police department?
12:08 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

INVESTIGATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FRAUD

Ms. Michelle J. gets $57,000.00 a year. We should demand that part of her job be
to keep tabs on the people who have affordable housing.
1. Are these tenants legitmately low income or do they MAKE their income poverty
level on papaer.

contact housing  Administrator Michelle Jarusiewicz at
508/487-7087 or at mjarusiewicz@provincetown-ma.gov .

How can thse poor people have the fancy SUVs and trucks and late model cars if
they are so poor?

How many are going away for the winter?

Stop the fraud.
12:05 am est 

Saturday, November 24, 2012

Re: Police Station

For the police station it doesn't matter what the BOS, Fin Comm, or Building
Committee (BulCom ? )propose everyone already has  a made up mind for the police
station.
11:01 pm est 

Re: Police Station

"3.How can we ensure that the new police station will be built?"


the only way it gets built is if town meeting doesn't have to vote on it. maybe
the seashore can build it and rent it to the police department?
10:59 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Governance

Novel idea! Yes, please go and voice your concerns at the BOS meeting.
Oh, but then you'd need a backbone and come out of hiding behind your computer,
wouldn't you?


2:27 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Governance

Re: WRONG: "We had house guests in and out all summer long, and most
mentioned our police presence."


This is obviously the same person who has been writing in for months complaining
about this issue. Always referring to it as a "police state" and always citing
his friends and/or guests who were shocked/alarmed/frightened at the amount of
police officers in town. Always the same story, always clearly written by the
same person who is trying to make an issue where none exists.

I'm sorry, but it's not normal to be frightened by police officers. They are
here to protect us. It's their job. Where do your friends come from? Some place
where there are no police? Why are they so confused that we have police in this
town?

This is just silly.
2:24 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Governance

Blah, blah , blah. There is a BOS meeting this coming Monday night.
You       -      should go and voice your concerns at that meeting.
1:47 pm est 

Action Needed on These Issues

1. Affordable housing fraud needs to be addressed. People took housing away from
eligible truly needy folks. People are not abiding by the rules. Who is the
landlord to evict the fraudulent renters at the housing development on
shankpainter Rd.

2. Harbor Master mooring fiel mapping fiasco. Why isn't he fired for not being
fortcoming? Why is the Pier Corps keeping him in the job? From whom do we ask
Satisfaction?

3.How can we ensure that the new police station will be built?
1:45 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Governance

Who's paying attetion? Our local government is in a sad state of
affairs! If people aren't being fired,they're "playing musical jobs",switching
jobs between departments,and several good workers have left the Towns employment
totally because of impossible working conditions.That's not good governance or a
good reputation for the current administration. the department heads need to be
re-assessed in their own unprofessional performance causing the work place to be
so intolerable.
1:24 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Governance

WRONG: "We had house guests in and out all summer long, and most
mentioned our police presence. They were not afraid, nor had any of them to my
knowledge had a single run in with the law .  .  ."



  I had over 1,800 guests this year and not a single one commented about the
police presence in our town.  A large number came in on the ferry and not one
mentioned being alarmed by police with guns on the pier.  It's a non- issue for
everyone except you.
1:22 pm est 

Friday, November 23, 2012

Re: Provincetown Governance

"History usually shows people who have a problem with police are
people who have frequent run-ins with the police."


WRONG: We had house guests in and out all summer long, and most mentioned our
police presence. They were not afraid, nor had any of them to my knowledge had a
single run in with the law here or at home. And they really didn't they seem to
care. But it is kind of weird and very noticeable. I think the most most
specific comments were A) how bored the police looked B) how they travel in a
large groups and C) Police Cars needlessly cruising through the Spirtus crowd.
9:31 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Governance

Re: ". .   Do we really need gun carrying Gestopo like police
greeting firtst time visitors to our town as they get off the ferry?.  .  ."


Umm, since some folks need the obvious pointed out to them I will do so. Those
visitors likely came through Logan Airport where police and TSA are everywhere
and every police officer has a gun. Or they came from NY by train where every
area of the stations and subway system are patrolled with police with guns. Had
they instead arrived by plane at little 'ol Provincetown Airport one of the
first things they see is a police officer with a gun in the airport. Had they
arrived by car they would have passed by a police car in neary every town on the
Cape and guess what those police have guns. Can't see that the public pier is
any different than all that and doubt there is a single visitor - EVER - who has
come to this town and thought "gee, what a Gestopo [sic] like police offcer
greet me firsts [sic]" Your sick pursuit of the harbormaster and pier corp in
general out of an unending thirst for revenge is tiresome in the extreme and
only nearly equaled by your hatred of affordable!
  housing.
9:29 pm est 

I Just Drove to the Post Office

Very crowded downtown. My windows were down and I heard a man on a bike
traveling against traffic announing "don't cross in front of me" as he passed
pedestrians. I hate to say it but this sounds like bicyclist think they are entitled
above everyone else. So much for  "share the road"!
9:26 pm est 

Re: Town Governance

". .   Do we really need gun carrying Gestopo like police greeting
firtst time visitors to our town as they get off the ferry?.  .  ."


I know, you were sitting at dinner and the table next to you asked about all the
gun carrying police officers in town, right?

History usually shows people who have a problem with police are people who have
frequent run-ins with the police.  Every now and then I'll see a police officer
in town, I couldn't even tell you if they were carrying a gun.  Doesn't really
matter to me.
1:40 pm est 

Aids Memorial Contest

The Aids MMemorial contest entrants wee told to use the Town Hall as a
backdrop even though that's not the designated location.The administration knows
it can't go there so why mislead artists? Why not be honest and tell potential
marquette submitees to use the Librsry as a backdrop if that's where it's
intended to go once approval is secured from Library Trustees,Art Commission,Bd.
of S.,and citizens.They should have one ut not on Town Hall Lawn. The Library or
the other vacant park on Bradford Street is ideal. That park can be made
handicapped accessible by grading the berm down. There's benches there already.
That's another perfect spot with high visibility and foot traffic.
11:27 am est 

Re: Town Governance

The Police Chief,and Town Manager are slowly creating a real "Police
State here in our town.  Why are so many detectives and police cruisers, and
motorcycles needed in a town with as few square mies of roadway as ours.  Do we
really need gun carrying Gestopo like police greeting firtst time visitors to
our town as they get off the ferry?
11:25 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

People in subisidzed apartments are leaving for the winter when that is against
the rules.

People are working under the table to keep their income low and get subsidized
housing while honest working people who are making too little money and who are
truly eligible lost out to these           .

11:23 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

Re: "One small correction to your statement with big implications.  The
selectman does not own his own mooring field, but rather leases them from the
town."


Ohhhhhhhhh, now I get it when previous writers were saying connect the dots.  I
think someone from outside of Provincetown should come in and look at this
entire situation.  There are too many people with a financial stake in all of
this to ever get to the bottom of it.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but enough questions have been raised that
an outside independent person should look into this mess.
11:20 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

Re: Hatefulness

"Who is the hateful person with the problem with the affordable housing tenants?
It's very small and petty and you should stop it."


Actually, rather than hatefulness, this sounds like resentfulness and if you ask
me, it's totally warranted. I know people, good, honest, hard working people who
have lived in Provincetown for years and have repeatedly applied for affordable
housing but have never been lucky enough to get chosen in the lottery. How do
you think they feel when they see someone else, in many cases a newcomer, win
one of the units and then find out that that person lied about their income, is
subletting their unit, leaves for the winter, etc., etc.

I don't blame them for being resentful and I don't blame anyone for blowing the
whistle on the cheaters. It's not "hatefulness," it's anger and disappointment
at being shut out by a system that fails over and over but never changes. This
has been going on for years and everybody knows about it but NOBODY DOES
ANYTHING!

And you have the audacity to be angry at someone for pointing out your
dishonesty? Give me a break!
11:18 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

Re: "Who is the hateful person with the problem with the affordable
housing tenants? It's very small and petty and you should stop it...and more
importantly- mind your own business! hate will make you sick...."


Hmmm, sounds like we've got one of the cheaters right here! Sorry, but when
someone is breaking the law, "mind your own business" doesn't cut it. If that's
what your mother taught you, she did you a great disservice. If you break the
law or cheat, you get what you deserve if someone decides to turn you in.
Welcome to the real world.
11:16 am est 

Thursday, November 22, 2012

Re: Cell Phone Coverage

To the complainer: you must be new here! Maybe there's still time to move back
to the city!
8:33 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

Hatefulness

Who is the hateful person with the problem with the affordable housing tenants?
It's very small and petty and you should stop it.

Many of the tenants are in there at the 80% and 60% levels of income and paying
nearly market rents for small units. It makes me remember my mothers good
advice: if you can't say something nice don't say anything, and more
importantly- mind your own business! hate will make you sick....
8:32 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Governance

"inadequacies about any of it.One member of the Bd.of Selectmen, who
owns his own mooring field and,keeps very silent or perhaps recuses .  . ."


One small correction to your statement with big implications.  The selectman
does not own his own mooring field, but rather leases them from the town.
8:30 pm est 

Re: Harbormaster

The mooring data base used to be maintained in Microsoft Access. 
Copies of all checks & cash receipts should be on file in the harbormasters
office.  These payments used to be processed through QuickBooks as well.  Either
way, reports of numerous types should be available from either program at the
click of a few buttons.  Ask the admin out at the harbormasters office.  After
all, it is a main part of the job.
12:51 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

AFFORDABLE HOUSING CHEATERS

We pay Ms. J. $57,000.00 a year in her housing position. We should demand that
she monitor these housing developments and kich the cheaters out.

Michele Coutour et al who proposed this should be upset about this too.

DO SOMETHING TOWN OFFICIALS.
12:48 pm est 

Re: Cell Phone Coverage

"sorry..but other people lost everything in fires in NY and in the
flood..and you are harping because you chose a lousy cell phone carrier????"

Um, when you say fires and "the flood," I guess you are talking about damage
caused by Hurricane Sandy? But hey, why bother with insignificant details when
you've got a harbormaster to crucify! Oh, by the way, I don't think the
hurricane victims would be very sympathetic to YOUR cause either...
12:46 pm est 

Provincetown Governance

It's obvious to those who know that which the Pier
Comm.,Harbormaster,T. Mgr.,Chief of Police,and Selectmen don't know! Density
runs rampant here! They're grasping,blaming,and making rules as they go. It's
become a power struggle but it's all a smoke screen to cover up their
inadequacies about any of it.One member of the Bd.of Selectmen, who owns his own
mooring field and                         ,keeps very silent or perhaps recuses
himself for conflict, while the Adm. are all publicly falling on their faces at
taxpayers expense. How embarrassing?
12:43 pm est 

Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Re: Harbormaster

Recognizing a tactical error in pubically attacking a public employee, the
TownManager has  spun up the Chairman of Selectman to pile on?
At  least the now harbor master for life must be happy!
What a bunch of clowns,
8:07 pm est 

Affordable Housing

I personally know of two people who got affordable housing who are
already gone for the winter. I'm sure there are more. Anybody investigating? No?
Business as usual in Provincetown.

Why do they bother with the farce of setting these "rules" if they make no
effort to enforce them? It would be pretty easy to find out who flew South for
the winter.
8:03 pm est 

Re: Cell Phone Coverage

TRUE PROBLEMS

I can't get excited about your cell phone problem due to your carrier when we
have a harbor master who should be fired..sorry..but other people lost
everything in fires in NY and in the flood..and you are harping because you
chose a lousy cell phone carrier???? YOU BOUGHT THE WRONG PHONE...
7:58 pm est 

Re: Cell Phone Coverage

Re: "This means no adding modern, energy efficient windows to your old
house - it wouldn't be historically accurate, and goodness knows, appearance is
everything!"



You are incorrect.  I had modern, energy efficient windows installed in my home
after I went to the HDC to get them approved.  I think the process of appearing
before them may have taken two minutes of my time.

I'm not always a fan of the HDC, but to say you can't install modern, energy
efficient windows in your home is not true.
7:56 pm est 

Re: Cell Phone Coverage

Re: "Residents and Visitors alike are paying good money for inferior
service they can't use.. Why isn't the townaddressing this with the
life -- they are not going anywhere"


See, the problem has always been that Provincetown doesn't like change. That's
why we are always the last to adopt any new trend, service or technology. Oh, we
may be aware of the changing times, but we drag our feet for years before we
actually approve of or begin participating in them. Evidently we like being
behind the times here. Folks in P'town like to pretend it's still idyllic 1955
and there are no problems in the world.

This means no adding modern, energy efficient windows to your old house - it
wouldn't be historically accurate, and goodness knows, appearance is everything!

No unsightly cell phone tower - it would disturb the quaint Hawthorne-esque
landscape of the town. What's wrong with a land line and a good old fashioned
rotary phone, anyway?

If you don't like it, I suggest you blow out all the candles in your house, get
on your old three speed Schwinn and ride past the butcher, the cobbler, and the
bowling alley, down to the postmaster and send off a telegram to your local
congressman!
11:17 am est 

Harbormaster Please Resign

As a tax payer I'm done requesting to find out where the morring money is. Pier
corps--take action now!

With the Town Manager, the chief of Police and the chair of the Selectmen coming
before the Pier committee expressing alarm over the Harbor Master's actions, the
pier committee does nothing.

The chair of the pier committee silences the heads of the town but isn't that
enough of a powerful warning that the Harbor Master is in trouble over
something?

Do you need a ton of bricks to fall upon you?
9:16 am est 

Provincetown is Exclusive

We are wedged between the sea and the national sea shore. Housing is at a
premium. We even have houses skirting the dump.

We live on the coast with hundreds of millions of people living in the rest of
the country and people want to live here.
9:14 am est 

Re: Police Station

"CCNS:took our land over 50 years
ago without paying a dime for it"


WRONG!!  Provincelands was a Massachusetts state park before the CCNS was
created.  The state then gave the land to the federal government.  The town lost
no land what so ever.

Daily reader
9:10 am est 

Tuesday, November 20, 2012

Leadership Ranking

It seem the harbor master debate boils down to who is the least awful
manager.

A) Harbor Master
B) Town Manager
C) Police Chief
D) All of the above... which is probably Town Manager by default.
11:24 pm est 

Re: Police Station

Dept of Interior and CCNS should step up to the plate and fund a significant
portion of the cost of our Provincetown Police.  They took our land over 50 years
ago without paying a dime for it and turned our town into a dense narrow
restricted piece of land.  if the cost is 12 million, the Feds should be
responsible for 50% of it. what other town gives them office space for free?
11:22 pm est 

Building Committee Public Forum

I believe the building comm. put in a lot of time and should be
praised for their efforts. We need a new police station. What the building comm.
presented at town hall last night were options to go forward. Now as a town we
need to find a cost effective way to build a new station.
If someone has better ideas than those presented last night, they did not share
then with others.
11:19 pm est 

Cell Phone Coverage

What the hell is up with mobile phone service in this town? If its a
"coverage" issue why does the service quality in any given stationary spot
fluctuate moment to moment?? Anyone know?? Residents and Visitors alike are
paying good money for inferior service they can't use.. Why isn't the town
addressing this with the mobile phone carriers?? It's 2012 and mobile phones are
a reality of every day life -- they are not going anywhere
11:17 pm est 

Police Station

Let's connect the dots. Same police station. Same site. Essentially
same super sized palace.  Still no official mention of the new  police sub
station at MPL. DPW overlooked again.
11:42 am est 

Re: Harbormaster

WHO OVERSEES THE PIER CORPS

What makes this volunteer the protector of the Harbor master? He comes up with
21 pages of defense while the town manager and chief of police and the head of
the selectmen express their grave reservations after discovering facts that
don't jive with the Harbor master's actions.

No one asked me if the mooring fields were numbered and documented--so he just
wanted to gold brick?

Makes me shudder.
11:40 am est 

Re: Access to Mypacc.com

Mypacc.com is still not working...

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11:38 am est 

Re: Harbormaster

Yes, connect the dots. Mooring fees unaccounted for--for how many years? Man,
this harbor master can "spin" anything. derelict boats, sunken boats, mooring
fee "confusion" and all on his watch.

You aren't counting grains of sands-you are counting moorings!!! Did you see
Argo? People were digging through shredded paper and sticking the pieces
together to make a whole page--and our harbor master can't count the number of
moorings in the harbor..something is seriously wrong.

Then Scott, one of the directors, gives this 21 page synopsis of a rave review
of the harbor master!  U-N-B-E-L-I-E-V-E-A-B-L-E.
11:25 am est 

Monday, November 19, 2012

Happy Thanksgiving

Wishes for everyone in this town. Hope you have a wonderful and fantastic
Thanksgiving Day. Hope the turkey is moist and delicious and the stuffing just
perfect. And may the pies rise as you want them and may the taste of apple or
pumpking just melt in your mouth.

We do have much to be thankful for.

Here's to you! Here's to to Provincetown!
4:42 pm est 

Re: Harbormaster

The harbor master isn't get any richer from            mooring fees but
then again neither is the town!  The only one making money is               business.
But you CAN thank our harbor master for that. Listen to the pier committee
meetings, the town manager and police chief.  They've all been asking the harbor
master for accountability of the town mooring field for years!. Tax payers
should be just as fed up with his performance.  As a previous poster said,
connect the dots.  A lot can happen when you have a harbor master thats been
asleep at the helm
4:40 pm est 

Re: Harbormaster

HARBOMASTER IS        

Read the letter to the editor in the banner from a guy who knows all about the
moorings. The harbormaster has        everyone about it and the mooring fees.

The guy is         and the pier corps needs to fire him. Who knows if he has 
            from the mooring      and put into his         or not?
2:39 pm est 

Oh, Should it Be the Banner?

Is that where I'll really know what is happening here? Really? The Banner first
and foremost?

No, I'll take the blog, thanks.
2:33 pm est 

Thanksgiving Blessing

Let's put our anxieties and political complaints on the shelf. Let's
enjoy what we have and be thankful for it and for living here surrounded by
breathtaking natural beauty.A blessed and happy Thanksgiving to all.Peace be
with you.
9:45 am est 

Re: Harbormaster

HARBORMASTER PLEASE RESIGN

After watching the October 25th pier corps meeting, the harbor master has one
option: resign or wait for the groundswell that will be demanding that you be
fired.
9:43 am est 

Re: HarborMaster

What did the Harbor Master get caught on?
Just ask'in
9:25 am est 

Re: Harbormaster

WATCHED PIER CORP HEARINS ON PTV

Why hasn't the harbor master been fired yet? Top town officials stated that he
misled them. We taxpayers demand accountability and candor and
truthfulness--Whomever hired him has the power to fire him.
9:23 am est 

Can We Have a Goodbye Party for Her?

Time to say goodbye. Time to say, Candace, your on your way. We wish you well
but your time here is more than over.

We wish you well and hope you're leaving is a done deal. Goodbye, and as they
say, good luck.
9:21 am est 

Beware!

My nearly new Honda was "keyed" on Bradford Street the other
night, a v shaped scratch about a foot high.  Why do these losers have to vent
their anger that?
9:19 am est 

Bike Lane

The bicycle/pedestrian lanes that were installed on Moors Road are
working very well.  Pedestrians and bicycles manage to share these lanes without
problems.  The flow of traffic including vehicles, pedestrians and bicycles are
facilitated by these bike lanes on Moors Road.  Same with the bicycle/pedestrian
lanes that were put on Shank Painter Road.  Bike lanes on Bradford Street would
help with the orderly flow of vehicle, pededstrian and bicycle traffic.  The
only downside is the loss of parking.
9:18 am est 

Mooring Fees
 
I guess that we need to go to PTV and see the Pier Corps meetings to find out
what is going on.

What is the allegation against the Harbor Master? How much does the town bring
in by renting out the moorings? How hard can it be to "mark" them and to know
what the total is.

Who handles the money? The town manager and police chief and the chair of the
selectmen wouldn't make public statements without benefit of counsel.

Time to      the              .
9:14 am est 

Re: Thanks For All the Postings and Information

Re:  "I value this blog and find out much that otherwise would be
hidden and only known by those behind the curtain.  .  ."



Oh honey, if this blog is your source for information you're in trouble.
9:10 am est 

Monitor Affordable Housing Complex

Lets see who leaves for the Winter--that is against the Rules. Lets see who
works under the table. How is that people with these good jobs suddenly leave
their market value apts. and get affordable housing?

The harbor master got caught..now who is next?
12:06 am est 

Re: Marriage For Green Cards & Illegal Workers

Investigation..there must be a way to get the authorities to look at the
marriages that took place this summer. Plus, the illegals are done for if I lose
my job.

I'm trying to stay calm about this but rile me up and I won't wait for next
spring to spring into action hee hee hee.
12:01 am est 

Sunday, November 18, 2012

Re: Harbormaster and Mooring Fees

What has been discovered about the mooring fees? Who controls the money? How
much are the mooring fees. If there is no accountability and the money goes to
the harbor master, who is to say what money covers what?
11:58 pm est 

Re: "The Caps Gave You Away! "

Just shows how stupid and arrogant you are that you think you know who I am... I
didn't write any letters to the selectmen on this issue.

Is there anything more ignorant than stating you can figure out who wrote
something due to the use of ALL CAPS?
Who exactly are you trying to intimidate? I would love to hear the voices in
your head and all the conspiricy theories that float about in the void up there.
11:56 pm est 

Hi Webmaster

FYI - I have been trying to access this site for the past couple of days by
typing in the ususal www.mypacc.com - what's been coming up the last couple of
days  is a ghost web site - do you or anyone else get the same result ? To get
to this site now I have to type in "shout out ptown" in google and it will bring
me here.

Thought you would want to know

Thanks


Webmaster Comment: Thank you for the information. Yes there was a problem with the site host software. As of this posting the problem has been rectified.

Again, thank you
.
11:25 pm est 

Re: Marraige For Green Cards?

Is there any proof of this? Maybe if you are scared to lose your job you should
start working more and blogging less?
10:28 am est 

Thanks For All the Postings and Information

So good to know what is happening here. I value this blog and find out much that
otherwise would be hidden and only known by those behind the curtain. Nice work!
10:27 am est 

The Town is Rather Quiet

But I love this time of year. I love the absences, the silences, the town given
back to itself. It's a wonderful time to be here and be part of this town. I
feel fortunate.
10:25 am est 

Let the Streets be For Cars

There's little room on our streets and this bike lane idea proves too many
problems and is not the right solution for this town. We also need and value our
parking spaces and that should be honored.

So glad this is being postponed till spring. May it be postponed forever. that
would be even better.
10:24 am est 

Re: Bike Lanes on Bradford

Re: "All one needs to do is cross reference letters in opposition to
the bike lanes which were submitted to the BOS to the above post."



And that's important to you because.  .  .  .  .?  It's a highly censored
anonymous gossip blog.  Who cares?
10:22 am est 

Re: Bike Lanes on Bradford

"All one needs to do is cross reference letters in opposition to the
bike lanes which were submitted to the BOS to the above post."


back atchya!  Those aren't letters online? And from the tv it seems that they
weren't passed out at the meeting? So who on the BoS or Town Manager's office is
posting here :)

10:20 am est 

Saturday, November 17, 2012

Re: Bike Lanes on Bradford

"Bradford should be dedicated for cars. No Parking AT ALL  on the hill
from Shankpainter to the Gifford House."



All one needs to do is cross reference letters in opposition to the bike lanes
which were submitted to the BOS to the above post.

The caps gave you away! You are !
1:46 pm est 

About this Blog

I love this town. It has so much to offer. There are also so many
affluent, well educated people here. However, this blog has a lot of idiots
posting on it.
1:44 pm est 

Re: Bike Lanes on Bradford

Just almost got into an accident on Bradford; again!
No, I WASN'T speeding either... just going home from S&S up the hill on Bradford
and once again, a driver on Winslow Street needed to pull the nose of their car
WAAAAY out into the travel lane on Bradford in order to "see" if they could make
their turn. This is a spot that has seen more than a few accidents. (Also coulda
been Bradford/Court; another danger zone).
I am against the bike lane, but I am also against the parking spots that are
blocking entering traffic sight lines on Bradford from the side streets.
Just sayin that there are two sides to every story and in this one BOTH sides
are WRONG.
Bradford should be dedicated for cars. No Parking AT ALL  on the hill from
Shankpainter to the Gifford House. A bike lane should be built on route six
directly out to the beach.
There, now I can be blasted from both sides! Those who want a bike lane on
Bradford and also those who want to turn Nagle into our number one town
troll/enemy... I mean, those who are opposed. And I am sure I also will be
slammed by those who will say I just suggested "raping" the trees out on the
highway! Hah!!
11:02 am est 

Friday, November 16, 2012

Re: 85 Shankpainter

Clem and Ursies Can't Be Demolished without Going Before Town Boards

You just can't demolish a building. there are various boards and especially
Historic District Commission. Even if a building is outside the district, it
still needs HDC permission for any demolition.

11:00 pm est 

Thank You Mary-Jo

I want to thank Mary-Jo Avellar, one of our town representatives to
the CCNS(Cape Cod National Seashore), for speaking truth to power when the
Federal Government reneges on the land use and access for locals to our land at
New Beach agreement we signed away 51 years ago.  Thank you for attempting to
have the meeting video taped for PTV.  Beware of all these AUTHORITIES who
double cross on agreements
7:16 pm est 

Re: Bike Lanes on Bradford

'And to suggest pedestrians and machinery share a tight narrow space
IS ridiculous.'


Let's keep pedestrians and bikes in the car lanes where they are now so we can
keep our parking spaces! The heck with public safety! Who cares as long as we
can park right on the street for free!

4:24 pm est 

Re: Media Reporting

It was spoken by a real townie, imagine that. My family goes back here before
this town was incorporated. But you were right about one thing, our local press
(though I wasn't referring to them in particular). Local press is inept at best.
Not too long ago, one of their own was in the law and order section of their own
newspaper. Awkward.
4:22 pm est 

Re: Pier

"I guess in Provincetown the desire for revenge never ever dies."


Watch the Pier Corporation meeting. You will understand revenge Provincetown
style from a uniformed police official no less. It's an eye opener for sure.
4:19 pm est 

Re: Marraige For Green Cards?

Marraige for green cards? Is there any proof of this? Maybe if you are
scared to lose your job you should start working more and blogging less?
4:17 pm est 

Re: 85 Shankpainter

They said macs seafood will open something at the old Clem and
Ursies
4:15 pm est 

Re: Bike Lanes on Bradford

I ride my bike everywhere,at least 6 times a day. I do not
Own a car.

I never ride down Bradford... To much traffic,speeding etc, not to
Mention hills! I stop at every intersection to cross Bradford, the cars do not.
Sorry to say the police do not pay any attention to the red cones either,

I do use commercial as my main route,all year. I know that there are bad,
To fast ,bikers occasionally. The main problem with commercial street
Are tourists, dogs,and cell phones. They are the main problem,not the
Bikers.

Also, when are they going to do something about the delivery trucks
On commercial. They basically park wherever and whenever they
Please. Traffic jams etc.... No need for fancy new curbing Sharon,
They park right on the curbs.

My rational is that I could get hurt riding on commercial street,but
On Bradford, I could get killed.

4:13 pm est 

Re: 85 Shankpainter

Just drove down Shank Painter. Looks like Clem and Ursie's old bldg.
is going to be torn down. I sure hope the land stays commercial,since the
selectmen 6 years ago or so declared the street to be developed for commercial
use. This could mean jobs! The affordable projects are already a contradiction
of the intended commercial purpose.
12:02 pm est 

85 Shankpainter

Anyone know what's happening at Townsends (Clem & Ursie's)?
12:00 pm est 

Re: Pier

Oh, always fun to watch the chief mypaccer get himself so worked up he is
frothing at the keyboard. Just put the town manager and harbormaster in one room
and he can't help himself. It's an annual cyle as old as mypacc. I guess in
Provincetown the desire for revenge never ever dies.
11:59 am est 

Re: Bike Lanes on Bradford

Phoenix, Arizona  ???????  I can't believe THIS is sited in the Bike Committee
presentation. Their only similarity to Provincetown is the letter "P".  And to
suggest pedestrians and machinery share a tight narrow space IS ridiculous.
11:57 am est 

Re: Media Reporting

Re: "The press will be sniffing around soon enough, and all that dirty
laundry will all be aired out in the press."


Spoken like someone who doesn't know Provincetown at all.  Our press doesn't
sniff, honey. In fact they panic when faced with information that paints the
town in anything less than an ideal light.
11:51 am est 

Thank You Mary-Jo

Your calling the selectmen on the issues and who can take away parking spaces
was spot on. So happy that someone knows the rules that even the selectmen fail
to know.
11:47 am est 

Re: Bike Lanes Coming to Bradford Street

I am Offended that those supporting Bradford Street for cars are being
attacked and villified. Called freeloaders is quite the attack.

They have every right to be against a bike lane. Let them speak but do not
attack them for their positions.
11:45 am est 

Re: Bike Lanes Coming to Bradford Street

"What? Freeloaders?

This seems like Romney calling those who voted for Obama receivers of
"gifts"--Blacks, women, and the young. Now we find those who value parking on
Bradford Street freeloaders? No, they want the street to be what it has been and
to be used for cars. they see the problems of taking over Bradford for bikes in
a small congested area.

Freeloaders they are not.
11:43 am est 

Re: Candace Nagle

"Did someone suggest Candace Nagle for some position.  Only she herself
would recommend she herself for some lofty position . . ."


She sure gets under your skin.  I'm not Candace, but I would be honored to have
her as a town selectman.  She cuts through the crap and gets it done and if you
want to play games you'd better get out of her way.
11:41 am est 

Re: Erik Yingling

"Eric Yingling was RIGHT ON THE MONEY!!!! Good job Eric, you've got MY
vote!!!"



Erik's running for election already huh?  I guess that's not really a big
surprise.
11:37 am est 

Thursday, November 15, 2012

She Doth Protest Too Much

Sit back and watch the show. It looks to be a good one. Wake up peeps,
the way Ptown harbor has been run over the years is the butt of jokes. The press
will be sniffing around soon enough, and all that dirty laundry will all be
aired out in the press. We'll have to wait and see who takes the bruising in the
end when it's all vetted out in the court of public opinion. I hope Lee Ash is
ready to stand by her Harbormaster because his incompetence rests on her
shoulders. We'll have her to blame for not doing the right thing by the tax
payers. And her taking care of her own will be at our expense. She doth protest
too much.
3:46 pm est 

Ah, Who?

Did someone suggest Candace Nagle for some position.  Only she herself would
recommend she herself for some lofty position. I don't see any position that
needs her attention. Her time is over.
3:32 pm est 

Get Nagle Into a Position?


Yes, like having her stand on her head. that's a perfect position for her. she
is well qualified for standing on her head and maybe even waving to her audience
while she does this.

Perfection meets necessity. what a great and tailor-made position for the Nagle.
3:29 pm est 

Re: Bike Lanes Coming to Bradford Street

"Candace Nagle has too much to offer this town than to be a selectman. 
She should be the town manager!"



Very few people make you wish we had a Mayor, but Candace could do it. Those
people who want to keep their parking spaces on Bradford? FREELOADERS plain and
simple. Can't they see ditch the car and get a bike?
3:26 pm est 

R: Town Parking Spaces and Town Moorings

"That's town money that should be going towards our town projects NOT
in the pocket lining ...!"

"The same should be about each and every town mooring that has over the years
gone into the pocket of one of our sitting..."


You are clearly saying someone in town hall is stealing town money.  Who is it
exactly that is lining their pockets?  We have a right to know.  Either you
should be brought up on slander/libel for promoting distrust and anger or for
knowing information you are not reporting to proper authorities, especially if
it has been going on "over the years".  Your strong accusatory statements are
serious.
3:24 pm est 

Re: Bike Lanes Coming to Bradford Street

Candace Nagle has too much to offer this town than to be a selectman.  She
should be the town manager!  This woman knows how to get things done!  Give
Candace a problem to deal with and she comes up with a solution that everyone is
happy with.  Look at how she single handedly straightened out the Pier
Committee!  The only people who do not support her are wimps who are afraid of a
strong intelligent woman.  Candace has no use for fools and gets right to the
root of the problem.  She is also a very kind, generous  and gentle woman once
you get to know her.   Let's get her in as position that she can make a
difference.  If the pier, the bark park and the bike lanes are examples of what
this fine woman can accomplish, just imagine what she could if she was given the
opportunity!
12:19 pm est 

Re: Chief Jaran and Town Manager Lynn are Out of Line!

Why is Yinging publicly reprimanding the chief and tm when he accuses
them of the very same? Thou protest too much!
11:39 am est 

Re: Harbormaster

"C'mon Finance Committee - grow a real set and do your homework! "

Read the archives of this blog from june. The fanboys were very very upset
Fincom would delve into pier corporation. Now the town manager has bungled the
job, fanboys are asking for cover! from fincom? really?

you can't make this up!
11:37 am est 

Re: Police Chief

FIRE THIS HORRIBLE POLICE CHIEF!

STOP HIM BEFORE HIS POWER GRAB IS UNSTOPPABLE!!

ARROGANCE UNCHECKED
11:35 am est 

Town Parking Spaces and Town Moorings

Folks go crazy about the importance of each and every parking space $$ this town
makes. The same should be about each and every town mooring that has over the
years gone into the pocket of one of our sitting    . This town has missed out
on revenue that could be easing our tax burden!
11:33 am est 

Re: TM & Police Chief

Good for Chief Jaran to stand up to this ineffective Pier Committee
and the Harbormaster! And he was well within his rights. It moves this forward
to executive session when all the facts can be openly discussed. Heard a rumor
though that Harbormaster wants an open hearing instead! That would be great! And
that would be great for the TM and Chief. Then everyone can hear how BAD the
pier is run, and why. Loose lips sink ships - Harbormaster should know that. He
finally sunk himself - after sinking the patrol boat not once but twice. Lol.
But if you believe him, it was the manufacturer's fault. BS! As a boater who has
paid my mooring fee every season on time, I can't wait to watch the show! And
it'll be clear why some pay and some don't.
11:31 am est 

Re: TM & Police Chief

GOOD for TM and Police Chief!  They're onto something! Time for the
good old boy network on the harbor to go!         has long taken mooring revenue
from the town.  And in addition to holding the Harbormaster accountable for his
ineptness, so should his friend and boss, Lee Ash. ya know, the               of
the Pier Corp! what a comedy of errors! andThe former police janitor has got to
stop whining so much on this blog! It's so obvious. Harbormaster got what he
deserved AND it ain't over.
11:27 am est 

Re: TM & Police Chief

The us vs. them mentality of the current manager and chief makes them
seem like thugs and bullies. Time for them to take their act down the road.
 
Between the looming sexual assault AND age discrimination lawsuits, this pattern
of police behavior will be very expensive and cast the town in very poor light.
 
Bye bye to the both of you and take your              with you. This is what
"take back the town is all about".
10:45 am est 

Re: Harbormaster

People with any intelligence can see that the only one with "testicle
fortitude" isn't Yingling, but the Town Manager and Police Chief!

People complain about all the expense going to maintaining our roads, school
and town buildings, etc. but don't care to hold our Harbormaster or Pier Corp
accountable for running an efficient, profitable harbor. The Harbormaster is weak,
and certain people like it that way.

The Harbormaster was asked to provide a mooring field map LONG before the TM
got involved! That's town money that should be going towards our town projects NOT
in the pocket lining of                          !

Wake up people! Connect the dots. Not demanding accountability to a town harbor
business  in a seaside community is craziness. Our Harbormaster       and needs to go!
He's costing you and me our hard earned money! C'mon Finance Committee - grow a
real set and do your homework!

This assignment can actually HELP our town!
10:32 am est 

Re: TM & Police Chief

Never thought I'd say this, but I'm in complete agreement with Eric on
this one. And this type of behavior from these two Town Hall staff members must
be stopped right away.
9:25 am est 

Re: TM & Police Chief

The Selectmen need to address the unprofessional conduct of the TM and
Chief of Police at public meetings.

Austin, do YOUR job and put this on the next Selectmens' meeting agenda!

9:22 am est 

Re: Chief Jaran

The Chief of Police is like a nice slot machine. Every time he opens
his mouth means someone can make some chunk of money from a lawsuit about what.
he says.  Sadly, we all get to foot the bill.
9:21 am est 

Seashore Pointe

How safe are our elderly at Seashore Pointe if vandalism of automobiles in the
parking lot can occur without anyone noticing? Is the parking lot safe for
residents and visitors? Should people fear leaving their cars and going in to
visit friends, relatives, neighbors? Will video surveillance or at least better
lighting be part of the plan for the next phase? I think we need answers from
the management there and from the police department and our town government
needs to demand answers for us.
9:19 am est 

Re: Hell Hath no Fury Like a Police Chief Scorned

"I need to say again...."

The PPD needs to do a better job on land before they start patrolling and
harassing working people and vacationers. we don't need miami vice in our 
harbor.
9:18 am est 

Re: Harbormaster

"A question was asked at town meeting as to the status of town
moorings and were they all paid for.  Unfortunately the harbormaster could not
answer the question. "


I can't tell if the harbor master is good or bad at his job. He gets a lot of
bad press on this blog and has for years.  Friends with boats seem to like him.

Watch the ptv video, the things people have been saying about both town manager
and police chief's management style is true. I had always assumed disgruntled
employees were exaggerating.

Watch the tape of the town manager and police chief at the pier meeting. 
incredible
8:35 am est 

Re: Barry Scott

Saw the sympathetic articles for former resident Barry Scott winning
his police brutality case against out town after 5 years. Boston Herald did a
big story and the Banner. Good for him! How can anyone of us think it's possible
to get arrested and hurt for speaking in a backyard? It makes us seem so
un-American. No matter what he said or didn't say, he should not have been
arrested. I was ashamed at the time about what the town did to he and his
partner and I still am...they were my neighbors and were good people. I miss
them. Our police certainly are not the greatest, as many of you know firsthand.
We should be congratulating them on trying to help us all by stopping such
activity. I am not sure many of us got it or ever will. Thanks Barry and Bryan!
8:31 am est 

Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Spend Some More Money!

I understand that folks in the neighborhood of the high school are up
in arms about the new playground in the Grace Hall parking lot.  Seems that no
one was notified before as abuttors that this was going to be built and it also
seems that this playground will be open to the public at all hours of the day
and night when the school is closed. Hey,a fun place to hang out after the bars
close! And there is a perfectly good playground a few hundred feet away from the
high school already! Spend some more money!
6:37 pm est 

Wow, $90,000 For New Curbing!

And we cant recycle the old curbing (for free) because it has paint on it?  Dont
tell me the new curb wont be painted before long.   $90,000 is a lot of money
to spend for something we already have.
 
I say make the old curb work (stone doesnt wear out!) and keep the money.If we
can economize we can lower the tax rate.  This would be a good place to start.
6:35 pm est 

I Want to be on the School Committee

When will there be an opening? It is time to get rid of the school super. and start
listening to teachers and parents more. That school is a mess.
6:32 pm est 

Re: Chief Jaran and Town Manager Lynn are Out of Line!

"The Harbormaster is responsible for the harbor, not the Chief and his
minions! Why did the Chief do an "end run" around the Harbormaster and do the
mapping of the mooring field? That's not his job!"




The Harbormaster was not mapping the mooring fields, he couldn't even tell
anyone how many moorings there were, who has paid, who hadn't.  Was it the job
of the MPO?  I'll let someone else decide, but the MPO realized no one knew the
status of the mooring fields, if he didn't do it, it wasn't being done.

A question was asked at town meeting as to the status of town moorings and were
they all paid for.  Unfortunately the harbormaster could not answer the
question.  If he can't answer who can?  Apparently the harbormaster thinks the
boatyard employee can answer it for him.  The boatyard that rents moorings from
the town through the harbormaster.   Hmmm mm.
6:28 pm est 

Re: Chief Jaran and Town Manager Lynn are Out of Line!

Hell hath no furry....

..like the police chief scorned.


the marine police experiment was a failure and now  they are looking  for a
scapegoat. Worse, they will pummel anyone who dares cross them, and if they
can't get to the that person, they will attack someone perceived to be close to
them.
2:51 pm est 

Jaran and Lynn Out of Order

The behavior of the town manager and police chief was outrageous. 
They moved their own agendas ahead in the guise of "public statements." NO OTHER
member of the public would ever be allowed to speak for that amount of time and
to engage in a back-and-forth discussion with a board while making a public
statement. If Lynn and Jaran want to make public statements, they should follow
the rules that everyone else has to follow.
1:02 pm est 

Re: Chief Jaran and Town Manager Lynn are Out of Line!

Chief Jaran and Town Manager Lynn were dead wrong to attack the
Harbormaster in the open Pubic Pier Corp meeting! That was blatantly an attempt
to crucify a good and decent man! Jaran has enough on his plate within his own
department! Sexual Harrassment claims, and all! Why has this harrassment matter
been swept under the rug? At least half of the town knows about it yet it has
yet to appear in the paper!

The Harbormaster is responsible for the harbor, not the Chief and his minions!
Why did the Chief do an "end run" around the Harbormaster and do the mapping of
the mooring field? That's not his job! What is an MPO? Marine Patrol Officer?
The former Asst. Harbormaster staff was AWESOME and did and exceptional job down
there. Jaran brought in his troops and things got WORSE not better! End this
"pilot program", it's no good for the town or the pier, or the harbor!
12:32 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Schools

"the great majority of parents are very happy with the Provincetown
school system as evidenced by the large turnout"


Many parents might be committed to have an elementary school in Provincetown,
but any parent who is "very happy" with the Provincetown school must have their
head in the sand. By every official measure the school fails our children every
day.

This is not likely to change. We  perversely reward the school employees with
less and less work each year --fewer students and now an outsourced curriculum
-- while  parents and students flee the school as best they are able leaving
fewer students and less work.
12:27 pm est 

Re: Selectman Erik Yingling's Statement

Eric Yingling was RIGHT ON THE MONEY!!!! Good job Eric, you've got MY
vote!!!
12:21 pm est 

Re: "Who Authorized This Expansion of Our Educational Mandate?"

Do the Posters on this "Blog" understand that policy setting is the
function of the SCHOOL COMMITTEE? It is not the voters will that establishes an
International Bacalaureat program, it is the School Committee who did so with
the full knowlege and support of the entire school staff! There was resounding
support for this exceptional program throughout the community. Those few here
that wish to denigrate our school should look elsewhere. The school population
is growing and thriving in spite of your callous attacks!

Remember, it's easy to cast aspersions! How about considering supporting our
children, teachers and staff with sound IDEAS for ways to improve what we have!
12:17 pm est 

Re: Pier Corp. Mtg. Nov. 8,2012

The Harbormaster cannot confine his duties only to the pier according to M.G.L.Patrolling
the harbor as well as responsibility for Mooring Fields,as well as ponds and lakes in town
are Harbormasters job.

Pier Corp. can't rewrite the law and neither can the Police Chief or the Town Manager as
the Commissioner of Public Safety! The Harbormaster ,if he so desires may invite the
Police to accompany him along with the Coast Guard if necessary.Police may not approach
the harbor without Harbormaster's authority to do so on police business.

The Pier Corp. seem to be "muddying the waters',(no pun intended),no matter what pilot
programs they implement w/o harbormaster's permission to do so. The one member that
recited his interpretation of what he sees is being attempted to do is very intuitive.He's
right on target. It's an attempt to build a paper trail on the Harbormaster to oust him.
It's a power struggle and has become publicly obvious.

They must be stopped!!
8:34 am est 

Re: My Statement at 11/13 Board of Selectmen Meeting

I have received several complaints from citizens regarding the conduct of the
Town Manager and the Chief of Police at the 10/26 Pier Corporation public
meeting.

At this meeting, they were upset about a letter to the editor that was critical
of the Marine Patrol Officer program. Rather than respond to this letter
thoughtfully, they took it upon themselves to publicly reprimand the Harbor
Master.  This is unacceptable.

I see a number of problems with the public statements made by the Chief of
Police and the Town Manager.  It is unprofessional and inappropriate, either in
public or private, for the chief of police to weigh in on any personnel matters
outside the realm of the police department. Period. There is a clear chain of
command and the town manager and the Selectmen as Heads of Government, are
responsible for any issues pertaining to town employees.

The Town Manager regularly updates the Selectmen on important personnel matters
but did not in this case. That to me is another indication that the Town Manager
and Police Chief responded in anger rather than with appropriate management
actions.

In the future, the Town Manager must consult with the Board of Selectmen prior
to taking adverse personnel action. Publicly reprimanding a town employee in a
forum that he is unable to respond in is a violation of their rights and exposes
the town to unnecessary liability.

Furthermore, if there is a problem with a program and it is brought to our
attention; we should attack the problem and not the person that brings it to our
attention. In this case the Harbor Master is being reprimanded for a letter he
did not write which was published in the Provincetown Banner.  Whatever theories
the Town Manager or Police Chief might have about the Banner letter, the
unprofessional behavior displayed at the pier corporation meeting will not be
tolerated.

Selectman Erik Yingling
vporter@provincetown-ma.gov
8:26 am est 

Bravo Erik Yingling

I heard our newest Selectman Mr.Yingling had the testicle fortitude to finally
be the first Selectman to say something to the Town Manager & the Police Chief
about their conduct regarding the Pier Corp. It's long over due.
8:23 am est 

Re: Provincetown Schools

I'll guarantee the large turnouts at the public hearings on the schools is from
those parents that like the system as it is because it's comfortable for them. I
really don't think they're taking the future of their kids seriously. if they
did, they would do their homework and would find that FACTUALLY they can't beat
the reality that Ptown schools should shut their doors.
8:21 am est 

Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Re: Provincetown Schools

"I have read multiple postings here about the School, some pro and con.
I also have a child in this School and after many conversations with parents and
others, I have come to the conclusuion:
    ******THE SUPT AND PRINCIPAL HAVE FAILED********"



I'm not sure what parents you are talking to and I doubt you have a child in the
Provincetown School System.  Because if you did have children in the
Provincetown School system you would know the great majority of parents are very
happy with the Provincetown school system as evidenced by the large turnout at
the public hearing and the overwhelming passage of the school article at town
meeting.

Don't make up lies to try and make your case, no one is buying it.
10:00 pm est 

Board of Selectmen's Meeting

Was the AIDS memorial on the selectmen's agenda last night? Does
anyone know if they agreed on a location?
1:45 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Schools

I have read multiple postings here about the School, some pro and con. I also
have a child in this School and after many conversations with parents and
others, I have come to the conclusuion:

    ******THE SUPT AND PRINCIPAL HAVE FAILED********

If I am wrong, then please tell me where they have improved or what they have
improved. I have lived here a long time and was living here before having any
kids and I have seen nothing, but, I have seen us continue to lose things like
all sports programs. I have also watched an enormous amout of kids leave. I have
also seen us go from two School buildings to one.

AND I HAVE WATCHED THE SCHOOL COMMITTEE MTGS ON PTV AND I AM SORRY TO SAY, YOU
ALL SHARE THE BLAME AS WELL, EACH OONE OF YOU ARE NOTHING BUT PUPPETS TO THE
SUPT & PRINCIPAL.
12:30 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Schools 12:27 pm est 

Re: "Who Authorized This Expansion of Our Educational Mandate?"

We Missed an Opportunity and Now It is Gone

Years back, we had the opportunity to find new and dynamic solutions to the high
schoo.l We had the chance of establishing a charter school either in Marine
Studies or in Art or in some area where Provincetown excels and we have resident
experts. We held two day all day community meetings and worked to create a
solution. But the then school committee, at the end, became too fearful of
losing control. Nothing happend and nothing came out of these two dynamic days
of thinking and planning.

The opportunity is now gone. What we have is a building and I don't see any new
baccalaurate program nor do I even see adult ed classes as we had in the past.
All these would have been good then--the moment is gone and it won't be coming
back.
12:23 pm est 

Re: "Who Authorized This Expansion of Our Educational Mandate?"

""This is insane and has to stop. The School Board is running amok and
must be stopped, even if it is required to bring in the Attorney General or the
Courts.

Why has our Town Counsel not wade into this matter and expressed an opinion?  In
fact, what is Town Counsel's opinion?""


You undermine your petty arguments when you can't spell the most basic of words. 
I think you mean 'weighed', not 'wade.'  And do you know the difference between
the words?
The school district is a separate entity from the town. The School Board has
authority over the school, not the BOS.  Voters do not create a 'mandate' for
educational programs. That is outside their purview.
The International Baccalaureate program is a prestigious program designed to
provide a more competitive quality of education for our children.
The furnace at VMES needed to be replaced whether or not there are children
there, as several town departments are moving in there.
This incessant criticism of things about which you know nothing is just
knee-jerk reactionary, and does not dignify the town or the writers.

12:19 pm est 

Create a Groundswell to Close the School

Two years ago we had two schools..now we have one. Continue the conversation
about closig the elementary school. Use facts to counteract the emotionalism
regarding the school.

The parents live here and they will push to keep the school here. Millions of
dollars are spent each year when we should regionalize.
12:16 pm est 

Re: Makes No Sense!

What rock did you just crawl out from under this program has been in devlepoment
for over three with multiple stories about it In the banner and the times. Three
budgets have been approved by town meeting voters since it's  inception. Please
stop spewing without the facts to back it up.
9:22 am est 

Re: Provincetown Schools

The people in Truro don't want our kids there, that's why they left P-town.


9:20 am est 

Monday, November 12, 2012

Re: Provincetown Schools

So it's official! Provincetown schools suck, something so many of us
have known for so so long.

That said, it's time to take stock of what we have. What we have right now is a
quick occupation of a dilapidated dangerous wreck by the most vulnerable of all
our citizen's.

The youngest. Before this mess goes any further these children need to be moved
back to VMES. The original elementary school. Not to mention the building is
still freezzing.
10:26 pm est 

This Makes No Sense!

How can you establish an Interrnatinal Baccaluarate program when this has not
been presented to town voters? Is this the real reason we are spending $1.6
million to refurbish the high school building? If this building is simply the
space for a new program, then this must be part of a voter's agreement. Why
spend even more money for a program none of us asked for? Again, this seems like
Beth Singer's answer to keeping her position as superintendent. This is as bad
and as foolish as the two secretaries that were and perhaps one still is making
$75,000 a year. This is almost at the point of mismanagement.

If we had a high school, if we had a viable charter school, this would make
sense. but starting a new program where others come in and take charge and we
are simply the place where this happens makes no sense. We are still absorbing
the cost of maintenance, upkeep, heating, management and even more: the cost of
renovation.

Over is over. Let this be the last class and let the superintedent look for
another job---but not here. and let the school committee be one for the
elementary school. That's all it should be.

Let's all face reality. The high school is finished and we should no longer come
up with fantasies and illusions for what could have been.
9:01 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Schools

"I would never proclaim to know what is best for other people's
children."



Mostly I agree, but Provincetown has a responsibility to give these kids a
decent education. And it's not happening in Provincetown right now and it
doesn't seem like anyone has a plan to make our school better?
2:43 pm est 

The Selectmen Closed the High School

"YAWN...The selectmen closed the high school...YAWN..IN a few years the
elementary school will be history."



Remember all of the kids marching down to the Town Manager's office a few years
ago? Remember the School Committee vowing to never closing the high school--even
over their dead body? Well...there is no more high school.

No more taxpayer money being wasted on a huge staff for a few students.
2:42 pm est 

Affordable Housing & Late Model Cars

It is rather amazing to drive past the affordable housing complex on
Shankpainter Rd and see all of the fancy late model cars there. MONEY MONEY
MONEY

I guess if my rent was $350 for a one bedroom apt. I could afford an expensive
car too.

How many of these folks are going away for the winter? How many work under the
table at a second or 3rd job?

I could work seasonally and pick up all kinds of extra work if I wasn't an
honest person.

How come people who were paying the market rent here for years suddenly are too
poor to continue once the affordable housing opened?
11:30 am est 

Re: Provincetown Schools

Yawn, people without knowledge of the situation providing solutions. 
Truro schools will not take any additional students.

I would never proclaim to know what is best for other people's children.
11:28 am est 

Held Hostage by Parents

These students are a closed society of kids who all live here and grew up
together.
They have their little rivalry and petty outlooks.

What kind of people will they grow up to be having spent all of their social and
school life with the same tiny group of kids starting from the time their
mothers walked them side by side in baby strollers to their toddler years in wee
care spending their entire childhood with the same kids.

Day in Day out year after year the same kids and the same interaction from wee
care until ready for High school. Gives me the shivers.

Provincetown voters are being held hostage by parents enforcing the idea that we
need a school here.

They are too lazy to want to get up earlier so that their kids could go to the
Truro School.

They are living in the past as though a hand full students rattling around in
that school will make them open minded, creative, intellectual achievers.
10:29 am est 

Re: Closing the Schools

Provincetown once had around 7 schools. Families can't make it here on a seaonal
income unless they have family with land or the money to help them live here.

All over the cape schools are closing. We need to close our school and let the
Truro school become a regional school.

If everyone who wanted to close the school wrote letters and signed their name
and spoke up at selectmen's meeting and FinCom meetings--the school would be
closed in 2 years.
10:27 am est 

Re: Baccalaurete Program at Provincetown Schools

Yahoo! When are the adult ed classes starting? Soon I Hope! One class
desperately needed should be an appreciation class in the High Schol for people
who need to learn about Wee Care,& Baccalaurate programs at the beautiful
,historical High School and special lessons on creative ways to keep the
building going for the purpose with which it was intended. Then maybe after you
pass the test with super intellect you'll understand the needs and will move on
to another subject. It involves weather and horticulture (gardening).Then the
subject to complain about will be whether or not the rain will hurt the summer
squash this winter!!
10:24 am est 

The State Report Card on Provincetown Schools

" Did Not Meet Target"  "Not meeting gap narrowing goals"  "Level 2"


What a surprise.
10:22 am est 

Re: MCAS Scores for Truro

I don't know your intent but if you look at the facts correctly, you'll notice
that the third grade scores low on the MCAS (as expected) and then rises
markedly as the students progress to the 4th and 5th grades. Seems like a good
track record and more proof that Truro is the place the Ptown kids should be as
opposed to the current situation.
10:20 am est 

Sunday, November 11, 2012

The State Report Card on Provincetown Schools

" Did Not Meet Target"  "Not meeting gap narrowing goals"  "Level 2"

28th percentile (72% of Massachusetts schools districts perform better)

Highest per pupil cost in Massachusetts

94 official students.

Here is the real link:

http://profiles.doe.mass.edu/accountability/report/school.aspx?linkid=31&orgcode=02420020&orgtypecode=6&
2:16 pm est 

Re: "Who Authorized This Expansion of Our Educational Mandate?"

"I  was surprised when during town Meeting the School Superintendent
mentioned the schools initiating a baccalaureate program at the high school.
WTF!"



The constant attacks on the schools only make you look ignorant.  If that's your
goal, then you have achieved it.  It has been public knowledge for quite some
time that the IB program was being instituted for our elementary school
children.  The fact that some of you have not been paying attention is your
fault, no one else is to blame,  just you.

I swear, it's a pattern on this blog.  People out in LaLa land not paying
attention to anything that is going on in their town.  Then they hear about it
for the first time and think it's earth shattering news.  It's old news, the
time to be surprised by it would have been two years ago when it was
implemented.

Were you also stunned when you went to vote and found women voting as well?
2:13 pm est 

Re: Jobs

"I need my job to continue living here and if I disrupt the whole town
SO BE IT if my life is going to ruined like this many others will suffer too."




You sound pretty vindictive.  If that attitude comes through in your work and I
suspect it does, I wouldn't hire you either.

In response to your question - You would call the Dept of Immigration and
Naturalization Service.
2:09 pm est 

Wee Care Fees

Tuition Rates for 2011-2012 Calendar Year:

Infants/Toddlers Tuition: $60. Per day: $30. Per half day

Reduced Rate: $50.per day; $25. Per half day

Free Rate: $40. Per day: $20. Per half day

Full Day – 8:15 a.m. -4:30 p.m.

Half Day – 8:15 a.m. – 12:15 p.m. or 12:30 p.m. – 4:30 p.m.

Preschool Tuition: $25. per day; $18. a.m. only

Reduced Rate: $18. per day; $12. a.m. only

Free Rate: $7. per day; $5. a.m. only

Rates for p.m. care are: $7.; $5. and $2. respectively

Pick up for ½ day is at 11:45 a.m.

Please make checks payable to: Provincetown Schools


Does this mean funds are co-mingled with tax payer funds??
9:55 am est 

MCAS Scores for Truro

Truro Public Schools

These results for Truro Public Schools, released in September 2012, are for the
MCAS exams taken in the spring of 2012. Source: Massachusetts Department of
Education.

Note: "Placement overall" ranks schools by combining the percentage of students
who were either "Advanced" or "Proficient" and comparing that number for each
subject and
Truro Central School
Grade/subject
     % Advanced
  % Proficient % Needs
                      Improv. % Warning/
                              Failing
                                      Students
                                      tested     Placement
                                                  overall
3rd English 5 18 68 9 22 919 of 955
3rd Math    5 27 41 27 22 876 of 955
4th English 14 36 41 9 22 592 of 936
4th Math    18 27 50 5 22 581 of 936
5th English 21 58 11 11 19 159 of 881
5th Math    47 21 26 5 19 272 of 881
5th Science 42 26 32 0 19 233 of 881
9:52 am est 

Illegal Workers and Marriage for Green Cards

There must be someone out there who can direct me to whom I should write or call
regarding this illegal activity. (I can call the attorney Generals office etc
and go to the Social security office etc. but I'd like a direct route and bide
my time).

I need my job to continue living here and if I disrupt the whole town SO BE IT
if my life is going to ruined like this many others will suffer too.
9:39 am est 

Re: Baccalaurete Program at Provincetown Schools

About the International Baccalaureate®

The International Baccalaureate® (IB) is a non-profit educational foundation,
motivated by its mission, focused on the student.

Our four programmes for students aged 3 to 19 help develop the intellectual,
personal, emotional and social skills to live, learn and work in a rapidly
globalizing world.

Founded in 1968, we currently work with 3,475 schools in 144 countries to
develop and offer four challenging programmes to over 1,058,000 students aged 3
to 19 years.

Fees and services

The International Baccalaureate® is a not-for-profit organization.

We cover our main operational costs by charging fees to schools for providing
services to support the implementation of the Diploma Programme. We value our
reputation for providing high-quality services.
Annual school fee

IB World Schools pay an 'annual school fee' for each programme they are
authorized to teach, but if schools offer two or more programmes they pay a
reduced fee to reflect their greater commitment.

    Schools offering two programmes receive a 10% discount, which is calculated
on the single lowest fee.
    Schools offering all three programmes receive a 10% discount, which is
calculated on the combined two lowest fees.

Annual school fee

Diploma programme      $10,400

Middle years programme  $8,700

Primary years programme  $7,600

Home page for this organization is:

                        http://www.ibo.org/
9:37 am est 

MCAS Scores With Rank

3rd Grade English
2012
rank School name     Number
                            tested Score

829 Provincetown Schools 11 36
_____________________________________________________
3rd Grade Math
2012
rank School name      Number
                             tested Score

753 Provincetown Schools 11 45
_____________________________________________________
5th Grade English
2012
rank School name      Number
                             tested Score
1 Provincetown Schools 10 100
_____________________________________________________
5th Grade Math
2012
rank School name       Number
                              tested Score

553 Provincetown Schools 10 50

________________________________________________________
5th Grade Science
2012
rank School name      Number
                             tested Score

211 Provincetown Schools 10 70


9:35 am est 

MCAS Results for Provincetown Schools

MCAS Results: Link is:

http://www.boston.com/news/special/education/mcas/scores12/results/provincetown.html


These results for Provincetown Public Schools, released in September 2012, are for the MCAS exams taken in the spring of 2012. Source: Massachusetts Department of Education.
Note: "Placement overall" ranks schools by combining the percentage of students who were either "Advanced" or "Proficient" and comparing that number for each subject and grade with schools across the state. The ranking was done by Boston.com.

Provincetown Schools

Grade/subject% Advanced% Proficient% Needs
Improv.
% Warning/
Failing
Students
tested
Placement
overall
3rd English92755911829 of 955
3rd Math182745911753 of 955
4th English--------8--
4th Math--------8--
5th English307000101 of 881
5th Math1040401010553 of 881
5th Science205030010211 of 881
6th English--------4--
6th Math--------4--
7th English--------3--
7th Math--------3--
All grades English115331636--
All grades Math113347836--
9:30 am est 

Go to School Board Meetings

It is the Selectmen who have the power to close a school--not the school
committee. Why not go to the selectmen's meeting and during public statements
get up and state this for them to act upon?
9:25 am est 

Re: "Who Authorized This Expansion of Our Educational Mandate?"

It's Been Years since the High School Had Continuaing Education and
Adult Ed Courses

they have failed to offer any of these courses in the alst four to five years.
It would have been good if they had but this leadership failed to offer night
courses for the community. Now we hear that they will be doing this? why?
because they need to justify the millions being sspent to renovate a building?
If you couldn't do it when you had a high school, why would any of us believe
you could do it now. Fantasy and fallacy. the world they are living in is not
real. Yet voters will be saddled with huge tax bills in this game of illusion.
9:23 am est 

Re: "Who Authorized This Expansion of Our Educational Mandate?"

Are all These Wee-care and Pre-School Programs an Excuse to Keep the
High School Building Open

and an excuse to hire more people, including a superintendent of schools that is
a sham when you have eight or nine high school students and only elementary
students and the added seventh and eight grades? seems an attempt to pretend we
have a viable school system and another excuse to have a school committee
overseeing more than it is actually overseeing.

Something is not right here. Over $1.5 million to fix a building for all these
"students" who are not really part of our school system. Or if they are, how did
this happen? and this future baccalaureate degree. Who is establishing this new
program? Who is paying for this new program? And again, a program for those from
other towns. It doesn't fit our needs without any students. This is silly and
worse: it is a twisted use of tax payer monies. The high is over. some will not
let that happend so they work to create other programs to fill a building.
9:22 am est 

Re: Jobs

If you can't find a job in this town you must be lazy untrustworthy disabled or
ignorant.  Get off your high horse and hit the streets there are jobs in the
Banner and Cape cod Times every week, also the town website and on the Community
Page on Facebook.  The Truro and ptown schools are looking for substitute
teachers paraprofessionals janitors and cafeteria workers,  assistants are
needed at the Truro council on aging and recording secretaries for town hall.
Cumby's Tedeschi and other markets are always looking for help. No one is going
to hand you the ideal job on a silver platter you have to prove yourself by
starting at the bottom and building trust.
9:20 am est 

Saturday, November 10, 2012

Re: "Who Authorized This Expansion of Our Educational Mandate?"

"This is insane and has to stop. The School Board is running amok and
must be stopped, even if it is required to bring in the Attorney General or the
Courts.

Why has our Town Counsel not wade into this matter and expressed an opinion?  In
fact, what is Town Counsel's opinion?"




You folks really have a screw loose, huh?  Let's call in the National Guard  to
step in and take over the schools.

There is no town counsel opinion on whether it's OK for the school committee to
follow the state's education guidelines.  Nor do we ask for a town counsel
opinion when town staff mows the lawn around town hall.  We also don't get a
town counsel opinion when we clean the streets

Were you sober when you wrote your comment?
9:48 pm est 

Re: "Who Authorized This Expansion of Our Educational Mandate?"


I  was surprised when during town Meeting the School Superintendent
mentioned the schools initiating a baccalaureate program at the high
school. WTF!

Who authorized the founding of a college program, without the approval of
Town Meeting? This is a whole other kettle of fish. What the hell does the
School Board think, that they can obligate the town's funding of a college
program without the town's consent?

There is something wrong with this whole process. Why are we only incidentally learning about these new programs.

Does anyone have a handle on the cost and liabilities?

This is insane and has to stop. The School Board is running amok and must
be stopped, even if it is required to bring in the Attorney General or the Courts.

Why has our Town Counsel not wade into this matter and expressed an opinion?

In fact, what is Town Counsel's opinion? 

7:47 pm est 

Re: "Who Authorized This Expansion of Our Educational Mandate?"

"Exactly, What is the Cost of wee Care and the Pre-School?"

How much are Provincetown tax payers being assessed for these programsw? You
just can't invite any educational program and then expect Provincetown tax
payers to fund the bill.

So, how much and how many years have we been paying for these and other
programs?

The school committee can't simply decide to create new programs. they must
present the programs and the cost to town voters. Did they do this? Or did these
programs simply merge into the school budget and voters believed theyw ere
paying for something else?

Something's not clear here and maybe not right.

When did town voters vote on Wee-Care? when did they vote on the Pre-school
program and its budget?
7:25 pm est 

Re: "Who Authorized This Expansion of Our Educational Mandate?"

"And the reason the state structured it in this manner is being
demonstrated on this blog.  People with other motives should NOT decide the
educational needs of our children.  "



Those other motives are cushy employment for life? Someone posted the MCAT
educational testing results here, but it was something like Provincetown has the
5th worst elementary school in Massachusetts. (please re-post the link?)

With such ineffective schools, how do their parents sleep at night knowing their
children are being set up for failure?
7:22 pm est 

Re: Wee Care

"Weecare (pre K) is not a state mandated program. Most school districts don't
have it, none on the Cape have it. It's costing us a bundle and most of the kids
are not from Provincetown."

7:15 pm est 

Responding to Police Station Financing
 
You are probably right on what you heard. I am sure the Town Manager, Police
Chief and Finance Comm all know this Police Chief is well disliked and it's
unlikely they will get enough votes to get thier police station. So the trick is
to find other ways to convince you but no matter what they do, the tax payers
are going to pay one way or another. No one gets nothing for nothing, those days
are long gone.
8:21 am est 

Re: Wee Care

 ".  . And who voted on this? I don't remember any town vote where we voted to
pay for any monies for Wee-Care. . ."



The school committee decides the educational programs, you don't.  You elect
school committee members, that is your vote on the matter.  And the reason the
state structured it in this manner is being demonstrated on this blog.  People
with other motives should NOT decide the educational needs of our children. 
Someone who thinks the roof of the high school building would make a good
nightclub should not be making decisions about our children's education.
8:20 am est 

Re: The "Barry" Message is Clear

If you host a party, with music...

Fear no more.

Turn up the volume.

Disregard your neighbors.

This is P'town, where you can get away with murder.

If the police arrive, smile. Hell, you might even get a date.

Remember, civil rights trump town ordinances.

Turn up the volume, and claim police brutality.

This is Provincetown.

Do whatever you want.


8:16 am est 

Friday, November 9, 2012

Re: Police Station Financing

"I heard there is an idea being advanced on how the new police station
can be paid for with little effect on the tax rate.
My only concern is that the majority of the Finance Committee"



I am sure the 4 Selectmen+ Town Manager have cooked up something in secret. Time
for an Open Meeting Law filing.
11:03 pm est 

Re: "Who Authorized This Expansion of Our Educational Mandate?"

"More lies spread on this blog.  The Wee Care revenue and expenses are
not part of the school budget.  The program is a self-sustaining program."


HUH?  It's not self sustaining. For example, all of the building and grounds
expenses of the VMES/School  are paid for by taxpayers but used exclusively by
weecare daycare. ($450,000 for furnaces this year alone) Administrative support
is supplied free by provincetown taxpayers (and no one can spend administrative
support dollars faster than the school board. licencing and liability coverage
is paid for by the schools.

So not a lie . The weecare daycare is not self sustaining to the tune of several
hundred thousand dollars.
10:34 pm est 

Re: Jobs are Being Lost to Illegals in Provincetown

My guess is that even if the foreign worker didn't get the job you
still wouldn't have it.
10:09 pm est 

Re: "Who Authorized This Expansion of Our Educational Mandate?"

What a Good Point

What about liablity for this Wee-Care Program. who is liable? Wow. Never thought
about this but you raise such an importnat point. who is responsible? and if the
town is, who voted on this?

When did this program start? How did it start? And who, yes who, is funding it?
10:07 pm est 

Re: "Who Authorized This Expansion of Our Educational Mandate?"

Thank You: What exactly is Wee-Care and Who is payng for this Program

Someone asked about liablility. Who is liable? Who exactly is paying the bill
for this babysitting service at the high school? And who voted on this? I don't
remember any town vote where we voted to pay for any monies for Wee-Care. so
how did Wee-Care being part of our school? And how did Pre-Cate [Shool] become part of
our school? Which vote? And By Whom?
10:04 pm est 

Re: "Who Authorized This Expansion of Our Educational Mandate?"

Your hysterical reaction is irresponsible.
10:00 pm est 

Re: Barry Scott Turkowitz

There was a good possibility that he would
have lost the rest of his case(some had been thrown out before) with a jury
trial so he opted to be paid to resolve it or the Town would have to keep paying
Town Counsel o continue on & on. That's not an admission of the Police
department's guilt. There's a big difference!.

On a different subject: the rumor
about sexual harrassment, it was reported that it's a revese discrimination
situation. in any case,if they're in litigation they may not be published in the
paper yet!
9:57 pm est 

Re: "Who Authorized This Expansion of Our Educational Mandate?"

"The weecare budget is buried in other school departments."


More lies spread on this blog.  The Wee Care revenue and expenses are not part
of the school budget.  The program is a self-sustaining program.

And for everyones information:
Massachusetts law gives the strict authority of running the public school system
to the School Committee.  If the School Committee decides to institute a Wee
Care program they do not have to ask your permission.  From reading this blog it
becomes very clear why the state gave the authority to School Committees.  The
School Committee's primary concern is the education of our children.  Others may
not have such a pure agenda.
9:54 pm est 

Need to Make Contact about Illegal Workers

What government agency do I contact when I lose my job to an illegal worker?
When an American citizen can do a job and you hire an illegal worker--that is
breaking the law.
9:44 pm est 

Re: Wee Care and Pre- school

Don't forget that all the Wee Care and pre- school babies and toddler
are all paying tuition. I have no idea where the money goes but I do know that
this removes them from the school numbers.
They are not Public school students.
9:42 pm est 

Police Station Financing

I heard there is an idea being advanced on how the new police station
can be paid for with little effect on the tax rate.
My only concern is that the majority of the Finance Committee will be upset if
it becomes a reality. It won't reflect their new tacit mission statement!

Stay tuned as this idea is being spearheaded by someone who has a track record
of getting things done in this Town!
9:40 pm est 

Jobs are Being Lost to Illegals in Provincetown


Wee care and school issues and taxes etc. and other issues on this blog are
insignificant in the larger scheme of things.

If we lose our homes because more and more jobs are going to illegals, then
what?
9:38 pm est 

Re: "Who Authorized This Expansion of Our Educational Mandate?"

"Who authorized this expansion of our educational mandate?
Does Provincetown's insurance cover this liability and if not how is it being
paid for.

This is true Over-reaching and irresponsible."



Some times you folks like to work yourself into a tizzy don't you?  They don't
need your permission to offer wee care which has been offered in Provincetown
for years.  Apparently you just woke up and are noticing it.
9:33 pm est 

Thursday, November 8, 2012

Re: "Who authorized this expansion of our educational mandate?"

It was never authorized by the selectmen or  town meeting only the School Board.
The weecare budget is buried in other school departments.
12:20 pm est 

Re: "You Don't Need the High School For Wee Care and Pre-Care"

Who authorized this expansion of our educational mandate?

Does Provincetown's insurance cover this liability and if not
how is it being paid for.

This is true Over-reaching and irresponsible.
11:50 am est 

Re: "You Don't Need the High School For Wee Care and Pre-Care"

"It's a babysitting service and should be seen as such. Of course parents want
this, but what has it to do with the true, actual school system. Is this a way
to count more "students" into a fabricated school system. seems so. and another
way to justify spending $1.6 million a building that perhaps we will sell."

Preschool education is not babysitting and is not a luxury.  A large part of a
child's learning happens between birth and age 5, when they enter kindergarten. 
If they aren't ready for school they immediately fall behind and never catch up. 
Any education expert will verify this.
We're required to have a school, and Provincetown has introduced an
international baccalaureate program that is outstanding and competitive.  The
children are receiving a first-rate education.
I'm sure you or your children went to school here.  Today's children deserve the
same courtesy.
Why do you keep wanting to sell off town property?

11:34 am est 

You Don't Need the High School For Wee Care and Pre-Care

It's a babysitting service and should be seen as such. Of course parents want
this, but what has it to do with the true, actual school system. Is this a way
to count more "students" into a fabricated school system. seems so. and another
way to justify spending $1.6 million a building that perhaps we will sell.

9:34 am est 

Open Note to FinCom Chair

You seem to be in the Banner every week.  This week you have a letter to the
editor defending yourself and your vice chair.

. .'arguing the nuances of this or that policy paper misses the point.  Budget
and spend with care'. . .


It appears you are unable to admit you and/or your committee made a mistake when
you insinuated the town had too much free cash because we overtaxed residents or
budgeted poorly.  Instead you refer to 'the nuances' of a policy paper that you
seem to feel is irrelevant.  Why would you yourself move to adopt the policy and
to recommend it to the BOS if it is so unimportant?  You were wrong, be a man
and admit it.

'budget and spend with care'. Are you saying that isn't being done now?  If yes,
as the chair of the FinCom it is your financial responsibility to inform us tax
payers.  And again if you have nothing to back up your insinuation then you are
doing a dis-service to us, your fellow taxpayers, by yelling fire in a crowded
movie theater.

You have two options.  Inform your fellow residents of where town staff are NOT
budgeting and spending with care or apologize to the town manager and her staff
for your reckless attacks on their integrity.
9:31 am est 

Wednesday, November 7, 2012

Re: What's Up?

CONFUSED: WHAT SEXUAL HARASSMENT ACTIVITY.

I have no idea what this means..who, what and where? Please give some info even
if you can't name names.
12:46 pm est 

Tuesday, November 6, 2012

Re: "Shame on You Sharon and Jeff"

Re: "THIS SHOULD HAVE HIT NEWSPAPERS WEEKS AGO!!!.."


You are just finding out about this now?  Man, are you out of the loop.
4:31 pm est 

Re: "Shame on You Sharon and Jeff"

After I stopped laughing I had to ask the question.  Were Sharon and Jeff
suppose to call Mary Ann Bragg?
4:27 pm est 

What's Up?

SO WHATS UP WITH THE HUSH HUSH LETS TRY AND SWEEP THIS UNDER THE
RUG,SEXUAL HARASSMENT CHARGES ON THE PROVINCETOWN POLICE OFFICER WHOM ABRUPTLY
"RESIGNED"?  WHERES MARY ANN BRAGG WITH THE STORY??  THIS SHOULD HAVE HIT
NEWSPAPERS WEEKS AGO!!!..SHAME ON YOU SHARON AND JEFF!!
12:00 pm est 

Let's Hope Everyone Votes Today

Don't forget. Please, go vote. It's important and crucial.

Vote. Vote. Vote.
11:30 am est 

Re: What's All This Wee Care and Pre-Care

Re: "the salary of a principle . . ."


Sorry, should have been 'principal'
9:37 am est 

Re: What's All This Wee Care and Pre-Care

Re: "What has this to do with a vibrant school system. seems like a
babysitting service and not an educational format.  The students have left. Now
we're babysitting and also encouraging towns to send not their best students but
those who need special care. . ."



You aren't aware of what is going on in the Provincetown school system.  You may
want to learn more about what is happening before you spout off.

Recently I've met several parents with children in the Provincetown school
system.  I can tell you with certainty that these parents would not be sending
their children to the Provincetown elementary school unless they felt their
children would be getting an excellent education.

This isn't about the salary of a superintendent, the salary of a principle or
the salary of a school business manager, if that upsets you there are other
avenues to address it.  This is about educating our children.
9:12 am est 

Re: Barry Scott

Glad Barry Scott won even if it was a town ofered settlement.   He
fought the good fight for 5 1/2 years and should be commended for not backing
down.  The police were wrong that night in arresting the hired help.  No one
should have been arrested!  Untrained, inexperienced summer cops caused the
pysical and emotional damage that night. Congratulations Mr. Scott on the
courage you displayed.
9:11 am est 

Monday, November 5, 2012

What's all this Wee Care and Pre-Care

What has this to do with a vibrant school system. seems like a babysitting
service and not an educational format.

The students have left. Now we're babysitting and also encouraging towns to send
not their best students but those who need special care.

The students should have stayed in the elementary school building and we should
be doing something more productive and crative with the bulding. But no, we're
spending 1.6 million for a shell that one day soon may be sold for condomiums.
why should we fund the upgrade of the building that soon we will sell.

It's time for Beth Singer to stop pretending to be a superintendent. she is more
a principal of eight students and head babysitter.

It is over. the high school is dead. the school system is finished. this is some
excuse to keep on going. but not for long. and not here.
8:35 pm est 

Re: Barry Scott

"Thanks for helping us all out in this town and for being so strong and
courageous!"


How in the world do you think Barry Scott helped us out in this town?  I swear,
you can't make this stuff up.  Barry was a little guy with a very big ego.  It
was all about Barry.

Heck, I'd contribute to a fund to pay him off to make the      go away.
8:33 pm est 

Nagle - Bike Committee

"So Ms. Nagel has decided she will be the bike lane queen...
Has anyone EVER seen her riding a BIKE?
I REST MY CASE"


I volunteer at the soup kitchen yet I'm not low-income.  People can care about
things that don't affect them directly.  It's called volunteerism, or good
citizenship.

8:31 pm est 

Re: Barry Scott Turkowitz

Ok... so I've heard enough BS about how this guy won his lawsuit against the
Town. The truth is that the Federal Judge threw out about 90% of his case and
left only a couple of issues that could go to trial. Having already lost most of
his case Turkowitz then had no choice but to try to settle. The Town's insurance
company is in control and they decided to settle the case because it was cheaper
than to go to trial. So this settlement has nothing to do with right or wrong.
It's only about the almighty dollar.
8:30 pm est 

Re: High School

" Talk about working the numbers. If they are at Nauset--and that is a
wonderful place for them--they are not part of our school system. We pay for
them to be educated there but we cannot count them as part of the provincetown
school system. they plainly are not, unless you are trying to justify your job
as superintendent."


If they go to Nauset, Provincetown must still pay for their education, which
comes from the school's annual budget.  There is also administrative work
associated with each student as they are ultimately Provincetown's
responsibility.  No one is trying to work the numbers, but our children are our
children, no matter where they go to school.

8:28 pm est 

Re: Close the School

Dear Blogger re: school As a Truro resident our schools are
overflowing and if the town didn't make an agreement with Nauset all those kids
would be going to Provincetown Schools and the enrollment would be much higher
and they would still have a High School!!!
8:26 pm est 

Re: Close the School

It just seems odd to close a school because there are no kids and
build a playground because there are kids.

Also, to the blogger who keeps misspelling "manager".  Please either learn to
spell or stop repeat blogging the same thing over and over.  Maybe you should go
to Nauset to learn how to spell.
8:24 pm est 

Congrats to Barry Scott and Bryan Richardson!

Mr. Scott bored me then and he bores me now.  He got his publicity which was all
this was anyway.  I'm OK if he moves on and we never hear from him again.
8:23 pm est 

Re: Close the School

RE:  ". . With the winter months coming upon us, why are we building
another playground instead of using the two gymnasiums. Why don't they build the
playground up at Motta's field since there will be an unlikelyhood school sports
will be played there? Or do our feather friends need it as their home base. . ."



By Mass Law the School Committee is in charge of the school.  I am sure they
would welcome your suggestions and questions.  You might get more bang for your
buck if you asked them directly.  In my dealings with them I've found them to be
reasonable and a hard working group.
8:20 pm est 

Re: "Hey I Was Wondering??

Why doesnt Rex take Jeff's job and Jeff takes
Rex's job  and then our Town Maneger can go work on the pier fueling boats?

That makes sence to doesnt it?"

DOESN'T
MANAGER
SENSE

Spelling is not that hard.  Maybe you should spend less time spewing venom and
more time reading the dictionary, and everyone would win.


8:18 pm est 

I Was There at the Town Meeting

My sense is that MaryJo did a good job. She handled the difficult situations
well. She was upfront on the assults against here yet did not say anthing more.
It's not easy when you have ex selectman and ex committee members t rying to
gain their own advantage by attacking the moderator. So, all in all, she did
well and the meeting went along without major interruptions.

Till next time....
8:16 pm est 

Re: Barry Scott

I hope they never look back! Thanks for helping us all out in this
town and for being so strong and courageous!


Funny, I haven't seen a thing about a settlement with Mr. Scott.  But, it
doesn't really matter.  I would never look on this blog to get the facts.

Many times an insurance company will settle with someone, not because the person
is right, but because it will cost more to litigate the case than the cost of a
settlement.
But, I'm sure Mr. Scott feels better because he got the money and he say he won.

I hope he 'never looks back', good riddance.
8:15 pm est 

Re: High School

Re: "that is ridiculous. If they are enrolled at Nauset High School,
they re not part of the Proviincetown school system. what fantasy are you
involved with?"



I have no connection to the school so I don't have a pony in the race.

However, when we talk about our school costing $3.3M we are talking about all
the students we pay to educate, not just those who physically attend school in
Provincetown.

When the state talks about how many students are in a  school district the state
counts those who receive their education at Nauset.  We did not regionalize with
Nauset so the students who are educated through Nauset are still part of our
school system.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

8:13 pm est 

Happy Clamming to All!

Hope everyone has a fabulous day raking for clams. So soon the season returns
and it's good news for all.
8:11 pm est 

Barry Scott Got What He Wanted All Along

Turkowitz and Richardson both said they were looking to be vindicated, but a
little cash was all they needed to move on.  I said on this blog years ago that
money talks and Barry Scott would not miss an opportunity to make a buck.  If
they believed they would win the case, they would have continued.  Fast cash was
the answer and hopefully this will be the last we ever hear of them.

8:10 pm est 

Re: High School

To the blogger who said I was wrong about there being 120 kids in the school
your right I was wrong there's actually 123 kids in the school and that includes
WeeCare AND Pre-school.  And if you were at the STM the other night you would of
heard Dr. Singer state that there IS a 25% increase in enrollment this year and
if you don't believe me please feel free to call the school.  By the way do you
have kids in the school? Because I do, so I do know what I'm talking about!!!!
1:19 pm est 

Close the School

Once upon a time, The Provincetown High School had a football team, a baseball
team and a  basketball team.I also believe the girls had a softball team too.
The Veterans Memorial School had a soccer team and I think baseball team as
well. All that is gone.

Provincetown once had 325 kids in School here, now they have 57 kids.
Provincetown once had two Schools, now down to one and the future of that one
remains uncertain. The School once had a teacher Mr.Hanlon who use to do things
with certain kids after School and on weekends, he's now gone to.

Now they are building a playground next to the High School taking away several
parking spaces that were used as revenue for this town. I guess the one that was
built in memory of Florence Bent behind the Veterans Memorial School is too far
to walk. With the winter months coming upon us, why are we building another
playground instead of using the two gymnasiums. Why don't they build the
playground up at Motta's field since there will be an unlikelyhood school sports
will be played there? Or do our feather friends need it as their home base.
1:17 pm est 

Re: Barry Scott

Congrats to Barry Scott and Bryan Richardson! I watched them battle
our police for 5 years and they have won! They got money so their Federal trial
would not start and our police force won't look like bozos for taking them both
out of a backyard for no reason. I hope they never look back! Thanks for helping
us all out in this town and for being so strong and courageous!
1:15 pm est 

Re: Kids in School

Whoa! How Can 20-30 Kids at Nauset Be counted as Being Here in Our
School System

   Talk about working the numbers. If they are at Nauset--and that is a
wonderful place for them--they are not part of our school system. We pay for
them to be educated there but we cannot count them as part of the provincetown
school system. they plainly are not, unless you are trying to justify your job
as superintendent.

   They are gone out of our system and being taught and educated by others.
1:11 pm est 

Re: Kids in School

"Sorry but what?/ twenty chhildren in the Nauset Schools Counted as
Being part of Provincetown?"

that is ridiculous. If they are enrolled at Nauset High School, they re not part
of the Proviincetown school system. what fantasy are you involved with?

They are gone and not here. Count the poor students who are left, almost like
abadoned beings. My goodness. I had two children and I would never have left
them be part of this dying school system. How can the rest of you?
1:07 pm est 

Re: I Saw No Bias With the Moderator

"I did see some bias when Irene was moderator--not a lot but she always
gave Couture more time and set up her presentations. There was a lack of
objectivity that a former and present relationship creates."


Oh, now you are just being silly.  Mary Jo did a poor job, it doesn't make her
look better by attempting to trash her predecessor.  But, if it makes you feel
better, you go right ahead.
1:04 pm est 

Bike Committtee

So Ms. Nagel has decided she will be the bike lane queen...
Has anyone EVER seen her riding a BIKE?
I REST MY CASE
1:03 pm est 

Hey I Was Wondering??

Why doesnt Rex take Jeff's job and Jeff takes
Rex's job  and then our Town Maneger can go work on the pier fueling boats?  

That makes sence to doesnt it?
1:01 pm est 

Re: Harbour Master vs Police Chief

You could also say the Town Maneger and Police Chief are a little to cozy in
trying to have total control over things they have no reson to control. Lets
take a look at this, what does Chief Jarin and our Town Maneger really know
about running a pier?  anyone? 

Sombody tell m, explain to me why this would be a good idea, please   Its not
its just the two of them trying to flex muscle they dont have and stepping into
control of somthing they know nothing about  SHAME ON THEM
12:58 pm est 

Re: I Saw No bias With the Moderator

Two sides of course.

If you are a fan of Mary Jo she was wonderful.

If you are less than a fan you saw faults with her performance and her bias was
very clear.

I don't happen to be a fan.  I think her behavior since she was elected is bad
for this town.  I'm not going to change my opinion of her unless her bad
behavior changes.  And I'm thinking you aren't going to change your opinion of
her either so we'll just have to agree to disagree.
12:56 pm est 

Provincetown Library

I did a little tour of the library the other day and was impressed by
all the bare walls.  How about filling them with more town art.  The walls
should be dripping with art.  Let's get it out of storage where it can be seen.
12:54 pm est 

DJ Barry Scott

Pay off doesn't surprise me. The PD really messed this one up. Big time.

Sadly, the same culprits that were here then and still here now.

Next settlement: Jim Parker's estate.

At least Barry survived!

12:52 pm est 

Saturday, November 3, 2012

Re: Kids in School

To the blogger who posted recently that there was 120 kids in the
School system, just wanted to let you know we all know that you are wrong and
your other statement that there has been a 25% increase in enrollment is also a
lie.


There are between 25 and 30 kids who attend Nauset, but would be part of 'our
school system'.  And there are a large number of children in the pre-school
program so 120 is about right.
10:39 am edt 

I Saw No bias With the Moderator

I did see some bias when Irene was moderator--not a lot but she always gave
Couture more time and set up her presentations. There was a lack of objectivity
that a former and present relationship creates.

But this meeting was well orchestrated. If soemone tries to personally attack
the moderator, they should not be allowed. This difficult situation she handled
with finess.
10:28 am edt 

Re: Kids in School

To the blogger who posted recently that there was 120 kids in the School system,
just wanted to let you know we all know that you are wrong and your other
statement that there has been a 25% increase in enrollment is also a lie.

I bring your attention to the Banner Newspaper, dated Thursday October 25th,
page 5. Quote: "Today, the building houses all of the town's 57 kindergarten
through eigth grade students along with nine seniors in Provincetown High
School's last graduating class"...


Also, there are a few parents who will be taking their kids out of the School
next year because of a variety of reasons, one of them is because there is
nothing here anymore. If the Truro Central School could take on more kids, trust
me, you would see a serious 25% "decrease" in enrollment.
10:27 am edt 

Special Town Meeting

I was working so i wasn't at town meeting, but I watched part of it
on-line.

When Steele made his motion it was out of order.  He did not say he moved to
amend, he made a motion.  The original motion was already on the floor. 
Moderator made a mistake to let it go forward, did she do it because it was her
husband?  I wouldn't think so, but the very appearance of a bias does not
reflect well on her.

For the life of me I can not figure out the logic of the person who gave the
minority report.  He wanted to have an over-ride and borrow the money even when
we have the money available?  Incur the expense of a special ballot election and
interest expense to borrow when you have the cash in hand?  I can't see the
logic there.  Saving the free cash for the spring when you may or may not need
it isn't sound business practice.  If I ran my business like that it would go
bankrupt.
10:25 am edt 

Town Meeting

Overall the meeting went very well I think! I loved when Mary Jo would roll her
eyes every time Husband Duane went to the microphone, you can't make this stuff
up!! I also can't stand it when politicians or those who lose elections get up
to the microphone at every chance to pontificate and lecture town meeting,
PLEASE you lost last year and we all know you are going to run again, just sit
down and wait your turn. I also loved it when MJ lectured Ms. Nagle who can't
leave her personal feelings to herself I would love to see a "cat fight" between
CN and MJ, we can do a HUGE fundraiser for SKIP and have a mud wrestling contest
in Bubala's parking lot between those 2 women. PLEASE PRINT THIS CLARENCE we
need some levity in our little fishing village!!
10:22 am edt 

Re: Sharon Lynn

Re:  Funny, I was thinking the opposite.  One of Ms. Lynn's strengths
is the people she has hired around her.  There may be one or two who, in my
opinion, do not reflect well on her judgement, but if you were at town meeting
last night you can see she has surrounded herself with some excellent staff
members.

I agree 100%.
10:19 am edt 

Re: Reconfigure What?

"Seems this Finance committee has a handle on the key financial issues.
they seem smarter than any other group and more experienced. they are quite
impressive .  .  ."



You're kidding right?  There are two, possibly three, members who actually know
their stuff.  That thing about free cash they put in their letter to the voters
was a lie.  I did just a little research on it, and the letter in the Banner was
correct.  Town policy calls for free cash to be 5% of the budget.  The FinCom
member who wrote the segment on free cash (Canizales according to the Banner)
either lied or was ignorant, I'm not sure which is worse.

What else in their letter was not factual?  It's not a question we should even
have to ask
10:17 am edt 

DJ Barry Scott

I heard that DJ Barry Scott and his partner were paid off by the town
today so that they would not take the stand starting Monday in Federal Court in
Boston and tell the truth about our police. Congrats to them for standing tall
for so many years! How often does that happen around here?
10:15 am edt 

Winning and Losing on Articles?

How odd someone's response. FinnComm is there to give us the best advice they
have on various articles. It's not win and lose. In fact, it seems they voted
for most of the articles in their report to town voters.
10:14 am edt 

Would Be Great If Roz Garfield Could Have Been With US

But sadly she has passed and with her, tradition and community involvement. Good
to think of Roz last night. Good to have Howie Schneider's drawing of Roz as a
button. She is missed. Somehow, I think Roz would have been proud of this year's
moderator.
10:12 am edt 

Moderating Is Not Easy

But I too believe that this moderator did well in moderating this town meeting.

I found her balanced and rather objective. I saw her acknowledge all those who
stood. Remember, if someone is calling the question, then those standing in line
can't be recognized.
10:11 am edt 

Seems Ms. N. Herself is Posting About Herself

Enough already woman. You have serious problems and should seek medical help
immediately. Glowing words about you are too often, I believe, from you to us.
Go back to your own sad blog and talk to yourself.  Sad to say, but this seems
to be the truth. Something's not quite right.
10:10 am edt 

Friday, November 2, 2012

Re: Fincomm

Ya lost on Article 7 and FinCom looked incompetent except for two
members. Could we clone those two guys and get rid of the others?
7:05 pm edt 

Reconfigure What?

Seems this Finance committee has a handle on the key financial issues. they seem
smarter than any other group and more experienced. they are quite impressive and
I think we're all fortunate to have bright minds working for us as voters.

I don't think you get a brighter and more financially savvy group.
7:04 pm edt 

Re: The Moderator Did a Good Job

Really ??  She ignored those she didn't know or like and refused to acknowledge
those trying yo move the question when the ranting went in her preferred
direction. Total cluster.
7:02 pm edt 

Re: The Moderator Did a Good Job

"It was not the most exciting town meeting but I do believe MaryJo did
a good job. . ."


Take your blinders off for a second and you'll admit she did a poor job.

-She started out by shouting at Ms. Nagel.  She lost her temper and looked
unprofessional.
-She should not have let her husband speak at the main mic which is for FinCom
and BOS.  It made it appear when he made his motion to amend  he was speaking on
behalf of the committee when he was not.
-She was biased and treated voters different depending on her bias.  When Mr.
Bedard asked a question of the Finance Committee he was told he could not ask a
follow-up question when she allowed everyone else during the meeting to ask a
follow-up question.
-She frequently forgot what we were voting on, whether it was the motion to move
the question, the amendment or the original question.

She gets a break because she was moderating her first meeting in some time, but
she did a poor job.
7:00 pm edt 

Re: This Time the Finance Committee Gave Us Good Information on Issues

I like it when the finance committee gives us inaccurate and
misleading reports. This helps to understand their political agendas.
I don't applaud unaminmous surpriseamendments when they vote
one way and then another.
They exists when that is how this committee votes but I like to hear
that the public is on to it. We then hear several votes and if we're thinking
about issues--andhaven't come in solidly behind an issue--we learn and
then may change our vote. To me, following them is a whirlwind.
6:54 pm edt 

Barbara Rushmore Was So On Target

We spend and spend and over spend. Free cash is another excuse to overspend and
this time a building that will no longer house high school students. Now the
High school building is more important than when we really had a high school.

Why spend all this money now? I am still against this and find it foolish. I
also would like to know how much money is going in the pockets of certain key
people from that architectural firm? Town hall, the library, now the High school
and were they really low bid? I doubt it but I do believe there is someone if
not more than one person getting cash in the pockets from these deals. there is
a boston connection here and it is paying someone quite a bit.
6:50 pm edt 

Re: Harbor Master -vs- Police Chief

"Everyone who cares, mark you calendars, the Harbor Master will be out
of a job by next June.  .  ."


There's a lot more to the story here.  I heard the harbormaster is a little too
cozy with a          that rents moorings from the town.  This is truly one
where you need to connect the dots.
6:47 pm edt 

This Time the Finance Committee Gave Us Good Information on Issues

I like it when the finance committee gives us minority reports. This helps to
understand the other side of any and all issues. I don't applaud unaminmous
votes. They exists when that is how a committee votes but I like to hear
opposition. We then hear two sides and if we're thinking about issues--and
haven't come in solidly behind an issue--we learn and then may change our vote.
To me, that's the best.
5:08 pm edt 

The Moderator Did a Good Job
 
It was not the most exciting town meeting but I do believe MaryJo did a good
job. She was even handed and did not allow crazy things to be shouted out. As I
said, the issues were not overly exciting, including restricting  yard sales,
but she handled the meeting quite well.
5:06 pm edt 

Voter Fraud ?

In next week's and the last election, people who did not show up on the census
list were declared inactive voters by the state and they wil have to (have had
to) declare their domicile to be considered active again. Provincetown must have
done it too?
If so, is the list of inactive voters and voters who signed a form to declare
residency a public record?

Here is the MGL references from MoveOn

Inactive Voters
General Laws chapter 54, section 67 requires that voting lists be delivered to
the officers responsible for of the check-in, and to the officers responsible
for the check out. The municipality must maintain separate lists of active and
inactive voters. G. L. c. 51, § 55 (2002 ed.). However, a single list may be
maintained where the inactive voters are designated as such on the list. Id.
General Laws chapter 51, section 59 and the applicable regulations require that
when inactive voters arrive to check in, they must be presented with an
Affirmation of Current and Continuous Residency. G. L. c. 51, § 59 (2002 ed.);
950 C.M.R. § 54.04(6).

The check in process for inactive voters involves a number of steps. The
pertinent regulation states in pertinent part:

If the name, address or party enrollment of a person claiming the right to vote
appear on the voting list as an inactive voter, the presiding officer shall
allow such inactive voter to vote upon written affirmation by the inactive voter
of his current and continuous residence in the municipality. . ., signed under
the penalty of perjury.

950 C.M.R. § 54.04(6)(a).

An inactive voter must therefore be provided with the form known as an
Affirmation of Current and Continuous Residency, in order to provide the voter
with the opportunity to affirm in writing, signed under the penalty of perjury,
that they do currently live, and have continuously lived within the
municipality. Id. If the voters name is on the inactive voters list, the poll
worker must also request identification containing the voters name and current
address. 950 C.M.R. § 54.04(6)(b). If the voter has moved within the
municipality, the voter should vote where he is listed on the voter list. Id.
Should an inactive voter fail to show identification with his current address,
the election official must challenge the voters ballot in accordance with the
procedures set forth in the Challenge section.
4:59 pm edt 

Re: Harbor Master -vs- Police Chief

Force Harbour Master out     

I dont hear people saying they dont
like the Chief  I hear people laughing about his attitude and the way He bows to
the town maneger (so cute) but dislike I find him very entertaining
2:04 pm edt 

Finance Committee Reconfiguration

There needs to be an immediate reconfiguraton of the Finance Committee
board if, it is to have any integrity going forward. The current chair needs to
step down,the member who gave the majority report for the school repairs should
be chair, the Town Moderator's husband must go and the guy who wrote the booklet
for Town Meeting needs to exit stage right too. Don't get me started about MJA
who created this mess!
2:02 pm edt 

Re: Town Meeting

Good to see that once again the town voters ignored the rantings of the
MYPACC'istas many of whom got themselves quoted in the Cape Cod Times. Thank you
town voters.
2:00 pm edt 

High School

After reading some of the comments written  here about the school it actually
sickens me.  Apparently none of you have kids so you don't know that this school
is an awesome school!!!  There aren't 46 kids in the school there's actually
about 120.  Enrollment went up 25% this year.  Also it is by law that EVERY TOWN
MUST HAVE A SCHOOL!!!  I know there are people in this town who  want the school
to close and some that don't want families here.  Too bad there is a school AND
there are children, don't like it MOVE!!!!  This school was here way before any
of you decided to wash ashore here.  Even if the school does close everyones
taxes will go up because the town would have to pay for transportation and
that's a lot of buses they will need.  And as for the playground, that parking
lot was LEFT to the school, so that is school property.  To bad the town is
losing spaces, go find them someplace else.  The children deserve a playground
that is close to the school.
1:59 pm edt 

Re: Harbor Master -vs- Police Chief

Everyone who cares, mark you calendars, the Harbor Master will be out of a job
by next June. The Police Chief and Town Manager will do to him the same thing
they did to the police custodian and other police officers. The sad part of it
all, they continue to do what they want. The people in this town need to stop
sending donations to the Police Association and you also need to vote the police
station down no matter what the price tag is and the location. In all the years
I have lived in this town, I have never heard so many people dislike this police
chief as I am hearing now.
1:08 pm edt 

Re: Complaints

Re: "To all of us on this blog, stop bitching about everything and find
solutions to the small problems that need fixing. Enough bitching. living in.."


If your life is so wonderful, why don't you just stick to living in your perfect
little house with your wonderful husband and count the cash from your business?
Some of us aren't faring so well and feel the need to vent and/or address our
concerns ("bitching" as you like to call it.) Sorry if it puts a damper on your
otherwise lovely day. Oh, by the way, make sure you don't attend town meeting,
it's full of people "bitching" too. And goodness knows, you wouldn't want to
turn on the news and see all those annoying people in New York "bitching" about
how they still have no power, water, gas, etc.

It's baffling to me why someone with such a perfect life would be reading this
blog in the first place. Don't you have a pie to bake or something?
1:05 pm edt 

Re: Yep True Story

Re: "Oh Ptown do you know my friend Candi she is a selectwoman and
President of the pier comm".



We should be so lucky.
12:01 pm edt 

Yup True Story

I will try this post again...Im sitting in a bar in Key West talking to a couple from N Dakota,
A man over hears me say I am from Provincetown and asks me "Oh Ptown do you know my
friend Candi she is a selectwoman and President of the pier comm". 

Yup true story
11:29 am edt 

Re: Demand Accountability From Town Hall


"I would have thought that having a "military ma'm" in the top post in
town hall things would be run well internally but it's a mess in there! Staff
dont follow thier own rules, oversite is lax, the police force size is out of
control, boards are in disarray....etc."


Funny, I was thinking the opposite.  One of Ms. Lynn's strengths is the people
she has hired around her.  There may be one or two who, in my opinion, do not
reflect well on her judgement, but if you were at town meeting last night you
can see she has surrounded herself with some excellent staff members.

During town meeting I commented to the person sitting next to me that for a town
as isolated and small as Provincetown we have some excellent, knowledgeable
staff members.
11:25 am edt 

Re: Bikers

As a motorist, I have no problem sharing our spacious Provincetown
streets with bikers, skaters and skateboarders. However, I fully expect them to
follow the laws I, as a motorist, have to abide by, and our Police Department
must enforce these laws equally with regard to traffic lights, stop signs, how
to pass other vehicles, etc. Also, I'd recommend a maximum speed POSTED on
Commercial and Bradford streets for bikers.
11:23 am edt 

Thanks to the Police Department

Thank God they put the toughest officers on duty after dark, The real men...

They handled the storm, including downed wires, N-Star and potential fires,
magnificently.

Bobbie and Tom and the dispatchers, you are all to be commended for a Job very
well done after dark!

Thank you for keeping our town safe.

11:21 am edt 

"Sandy" Cleanup

Kudos to DPW for clean-up and NSTAR for very fast response to power
outage.

11:20 am edt 

Re: - "Not a Town Employee Nor Sleeping With One . . ."

I have to say with all the postings that include this statment it would appear
the town employees have NO love life.  :)
11:17 am edt 

Town Meeting Observations

*Mary Jo did not seem on her game.  Rules were applied inconsistently and she
frequently got lost in the process.  She called out Ms Nagel by name after she
admonished everyone else not to refer to others by name.  There may be no
conflict of interest with the moderator and her husband, but the appearance of
one was just a bad.

*Confusion reigned when her husband came to the mic and rambled on.  When he was
at the front mic was he there as a FinCom member or a private citizen?  I think
he should have been at a mic in the audience.

*The FinCom member who presented the FinCom majority opinion was excellent.  He
laid out a well thought out detailed explanation of how they came to their
conlusion.  Probably one of the best of the evening.

*The minority report of FinCom was a waste of everyone's time.  Why did he even
bother with it?

*I appreciated staff's work in having the power point presentation during the
meeting with each motion, but many of us in the audience could not read it
because of distance.

*FinCom chair did a poor job responding to the question about free cash.  They
apparently were wrong in their letter, he should have just owned up to his
mistake.

*Provincetown voters are much more knowledgeable than some give credit.  The
audience last night was very prepared and questions asked were well thought out
for the most part.  I don't know if it was the article explanations on the
town's web site or what, but residents came prepared and most questions asked
were very good.

11:10 am edt 

Demand Accountability From Town Hall

I would have thought that having a "military ma'm" in the top post in town hall
things would be run well internally but it's a mess in there! Staff dont follow
thier own rules, oversite is lax, the police force size is out of control,
boards are in disarray....etc.

 Sharon has her strengths in some important areas for Provincetown but
management is top heavy and should be able to manage staff and work in this
small town. There are more chiefs than Indians!.  We, the voters, need to demand
accountability from town management regarding what and how well departments and
boards are run and how oversite is managed. I say make the system work
efficiently THEN ask for more money or do bigger things. If you ran a company
the way Town Hall is run you would be bankrupt  before you could start. I
encourage the usual 200-300 people who always show up at Town Meeting to ask
questions and demand accountability!
11:05 am edt 

Another Playground?

 Makaes the Recreation Director's Job Even More Important

Seems an attempt to increase his role and keep his position. Perhaps the last
thing we need in town is anothor playground. It isn't as if there is a baby boom
here in Provincetown. Perhaps it makes sense in Truro but not here.

Just another poor idea sanctioned by town officials.
11:01 am edt 

Re: Street Sweeper

Why dont you call yourself and stop being a
trouble maker.  There are a number of things that should be swept off the street
so they wont clog the storm drains.                                                               
                                                 


11:00 am edt 

Harbor Master vs Police Chief

Since when is it proper for the Chief of Police and the Town Manager
to make public statements at an open meeting?  There are times when public
figures should act as honorable  people and remain above it all. They are
bordering on unethicall behavior if not illegal actions.

It seems that the Chief has been caught with his hand in the cookie jar.  He is
trying to take over the pier without knowing anything about it.  Let the police
take care of police business and the Harbormaster take care of the harbor.   The
MPO and the Chief did not do their homework and now they are blaming it on the
Harbormaster.
10:58 am edt 

Re: Power

Fast response to the power outage!!!  All those improvements really
worked! With the old system it would have been much worse!
10:55 am edt 

Power

Wow, super kudos to NSTAR. Amazing power restoration. Go guys, and gals, you
rock.

- not a town employee, etc.
10:54 am edt 

Re: Street Sweeper

You            miserable      . The town street sweeper is making runs to pick up
leaves to keep storm drains from clogging and reduce risk of flooding in case of
heavy rain. Fortunately we seem to be in a dry quadrant but in case not this
precaution is totally warranted and appreciated. THANK YOU TOWN MANAGEMENT AND
MORE TOWN EMPLOYEES OUT KEEPING US SAFE!

You folks are miserable miscreants who can't spell and have no brain at all.

- not a town employee nor sleeping with one
10:53 am edt 

School Board Meeting

The play ground was not payed for with CPC funds, but extra money returned from
Nauset High School for over payment. In most years, it would have been returned
as free cash to the taxpayers, but with the pending 1.4 Million roof repair, the
school board knew Town Meeting would not do both projects. So they spent the
money on the sly.

Watch the School Board meeting at the end of June. It's all public information.
10:51 am edt 

Complaints

I moved back to Provincetown 11 years ago. I love the beauty of this
town, the diversity of it's people, the life I have here. I was able to buy a
wonderful house(not condo), find a (at most times)great husband, start a
thriving business.

To all of us on this blog, stop bitching about everything and find solutions to
the small problems that need fixing. Enough bitching.
10:49 am edt 

Re: Street Sweepers

When town Meeting comes Around--the Street Sweepers are always there

that explains seeing them even with a Hurricaine on the town's heels. they show
up when wew are about to vote and they always want more money. That's what I
think is fueling the street cleaning even at this preposterous time.

So much leadership here, it's overwhelming!
10:48 am edt 


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