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  Mark Silva: A Rich Goodby

The church was packed. There was even a long line to enter St. Peter's. There were people sitting along the side pews. All the pews were filled.

We were there to attest to your legacy, to what you gave to this town and to all of us. You brought the energy for the Portuguese Festival and revived it. You brought the energy for the Regatta and revived this wonderful celebration. You gave of yourself, of your time and of your vision.

The town was there to bid you farewell and to thank you for everything that you have done for us. And you did it with humor, joy and a sense of much celebration. You knew how to throw a party and taught the town to do it too!

You were unique and you will be missed. But you would not leave without our thanks and without a party at the Red Inn. We were there with tears and we were there with much laughter and gratefulness for you.

Adieu, Mark! May the angels carry you on holy wings into eternal peace and celebration!

 

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Sunday, September 30, 2012

Town Manager

The Town Manager is doing an excellent job.  Stop the negativity.
11:56 pm edt 

Death and Taxes

We are all going to die and we are all going to have to pay taxes. The facts are
that when I was in college, gas was thirty cents a gallon. Now it is ten times
as much.

My house insurance is now $5,000.00. My taxes are thousands of dollars.
Everything goes up. I'm not calling a repair man--the charge is almost as much
as buying a new item.

I live in a rich area..but I'm not rich--but I pay my taxes and I support what
is going on in town. Watch PTV and see the good work being done in town.

We are getting a brand new Commercial street and sidewalks.
11:54 pm edt 

Paying Taxes

We need to pay our taxes to keep the town going. What we need to do is to find
ways to bring money into our town coffers.

One way to bring in hundreds of thousands of dollars a year is simply to stop
allowing people with Provincetown stickers from parking in the municipal parking
lot!

Another way is to gradually sell the buildings that no longer serve our needs.

11:52 pm edt 

Re: Town Government Spending

Seems nobody likes to see overides at town meeting because that means your taxes
will increase. But it seems they always pass. The reason is partly because of
the sob stories/fear mongering that comes out during town meeting. Either a
teacher will be laid off or your police and fire will be understaffed and you
dont want your kids to not get the best education possible or you don't want to
be without a cop when you need one, right? These are the stories that always get
the overides passed. (remember the rape story told by a seargent to get the
police station built?) The other factor is the fact that a LARGE number of peole
that vote at town meeting ARE NOT TAX PAYERS. What do they care so long as they
get the benifits of the overide. Build the police station, expand the DPW, pave
the streets, expand the wellfields etc. Let the landlord pay the taxes.
As far as the unions go, there is a limit to what they can ask for and you're
right, the TM can put a halt to that. But keep in mind, as someone posted to pay
employees a flat rate of $40K regardless of their job, eventually the skilled
labor will leave for better jobs that pay more and the town will be forced to
hire unexperienced people. Years ago, when wages were low compared to the
private sector, village idiots were working for the town for the most part. Now,
public sector wages have slowly creeped up to compete with private sector wages
and the employees, believe it or not, are smarter, licensed, certified, trained
and competent. Remember, you get what you pay for.
11:51 pm edt 

We Must Maintain Our Buildings

IT is our High School that needs to be sealed and protected. It is *OUR* police
Station that has sewage that has backed up and is under par.

It is our pier that needs to be maintained. It is all of our town that we
taxpayers must maintain and fix up when needed.

Thus we pay taxes: we have new infrastructure and  are getting a new road;  we
need plows, etc.

We have closed one school because we had ahandful of students.

We need to look ahead, plan and protect. This is what we do--we are conernced
citizens of Provincetown.
11:48 pm edt 

Re: Pensions and Fires

Thanks for pointing me to the FinCom minutes regarding pension funding. It also
led me to the Barnstable Retirement System January 2012 actuarial report.

First, the minutes are wrong. the minutes say the Town is incrementally funding
the pension obligations to be funded fully by 2028. But the Barnstable report
says:

"Last year, the Board approved a funding schedule that fully amortized the
unfunded actuarial accrued liability as of June 30, 2038, with a four-year
phase-in (the appropriation increased 6% per year from fiscal 2012 through
fiscal 2015). This valuation presents a schedule in Section 3, Exhibit G, which
again fully amortizes the unfunded actuarial accrued liability as of June 30,
2038 and reflects the last two years of the phase-in from the prior
valuation...."

So the report predicts full funding by 2038 not 2028.

More importantly, and your FinCom citation contains this, "but that estimate
includes very optimistic rates of return..." The assumed rate of return is
7.875%. This means predictions of full funding by 2038 are totally and
critically reliant on the system earning investment return of nearly 8% between
now and 2038. However the report then goes on to show that real market average
return has been 3.71% and over the past five years only .23%. It's has caused
large shortfalls in self generated funding in the plan. In order to make these
up cash contributions by towns is being increased.

Though this assumed rate of return was adjusted downward slightly in 2012 to its
current level but is still completely unrealistic. These predicted averages were
derived from a period when the ten year bond yield averages something like 4-5%
and stocks were returning 9-10% gdp growth was 3-5%. Currently the ten year bond
yield is 1.6%, less than the inflation rate meaning negative real returns and
stock return have been basically zero or just slightly positive including
dividends and GDP is running around 1%.  Jack Bogle, the founder of Vanguard
Funds argues in his most recent book that assumed rates should be around 6%. 
Also the following report is interesting as well:

"More and more followers of government pension plans have been declaring that
the pension plans have been overly optimistic in their estimates for future
returns of the pension funds when evaluating the funds ability to meet future
payment obligations. Most governments use a projected 7.5 to 8.5 percent average
annual return, however Moodys is recommending a change to 5.5% (reflecting
average returns on high-grade long-term corporate bonds). The two to three
percentage point difference may not sound like much, but when applied to a
pension fund like North Carolinas with tens of billions of dollars worth of
investments, it makes a major difference." (To find full piece search for More
Realistic Look at State Pension Fund Would Reveal Even Larger Hole)

I would also add that market returns are never averages over time. They are
highly variable. Just the past ten years as seen one year with returns of over
20% and one year with a loss of nearly 30%. These real variations cause far
different results than a steady assumed rate of return. The entire pension fund
calculation is completely fictional in a sense. It does not change accounting
value by the true market change each year it averages market returns and only
slowly adjusts the value of the pension assets on paper. So never does the real
market value match the actuarial paper value. While this is legitimate accepted
practice it means that valuation are a pile of assumptions and averages not real
values.

Why isn't the real value reflected and why isn't the assumed rate of return more
realistic? Because fundamentally we taxpayers don't want to hear reality, we'd
toss our elected officials out if they leveled with us. Towns would have to pony
up massively more cash each year to properly fund pensions. And, as I noted in
my prior post, each year reality diverges more and more from the unreal
assumptions the costlier the problem gets to fix.

From the same report quoted above I note "Bottom line: the states current
pension program is unsustainable. If Moodys gets their way and evaluates the
pension plan using more realistic projections, we may be in for some sticker
shock when we see what poor condition the pension fund is truly in. Reforms are
needed now  and foremost among them should be to begin converting to a 401(k)
style defined-contribution retirement system. That way, taxpayers will no longer
be on the hook for state retiree pension benefits, and state employees would
have greater control over their retirement funds."

This post is NOT yelling fire in a crowded theater it is a call for the Town and
Finance Committee and taxpayers to wake up and see reality. The smoke and
mirrors of the Barnstable actuarial assumptions are just that. It would take
massive outperformance of the assumed average just to make up the shortfall in
performance of the last ten years. At a minimum the Finance Committee should
report to the taxpayers what our actual cash contributions would have to be
under various return assumptions including those more matching the new normal of
probable returns of 5% or so. I suspect we would find that either a drastic cut
in other services is needed to pay the bill or a massive increase in taxes.

We are lying to ourselves if we think our pension system is on track. It is so
much easier to kick the can down the road as it is with personal retirement
planning, federal social security, etc. Even though most of us will be dead by
that mythical date of 2038 full funding the bill will still have to be paid.
Each year the require pension obligation goes up and up. Not too long from now
instead of a town with a pension and healthcare plan we will be a pension and
healthcare plan with a town attached. It is time for the ostrich to take its
head out of the sand and to fundamentally change the system and assumptions.

- not a town employee, etc.
11:45 pm edt 

Re: Pension Problem

While the complainers of town employees pensions were brokers getting
rich on wall street the "little' people here were working for this town that you
complaners claim to love.  We worked for salaries that were far beneath your
standards and far beneath our own living expensesso that we could get the
assurance of our pensions and 80% medical we had been promised upon retirement.
In truth the Provincetown salaries have never caught up to those of others in
the public sector and never coparable to those in the private sector by
thousands. If wall street fell short for some of you because of economy don't
punish us now for hanging on for the pitance we all settled for.If you had to
pay us for all the hundreds of free hours we gave over and above our jobs you
couldn't afford us!Do your homework and stop complaining!
11:35 pm edt 

Watch This Space

Our whole street will soon be celebrating. The guy who lives in our neighborhood
is moving out of here. I won't say any more--I don't want to jinx it or have his
new landlord change his or her mind..I'll wait until I know for sure that he has
moved.
11:33 pm edt 

Re: Town Government Spending

Re: "I own property, pay over $10,000.00 a year in property tax and do
not appreciate it when 7 tax overrides are presented at town meeting. Let's stop
wasting money, some of it my money. I would love it if my taxes went down, once."



I agree with you to some extent, but I don't see a lot of waste in the overrides
that were requested.  The idea of consolidating some departments into an
underutilized school building is a good one when it will eventually result in
the sale of two un-needed buildings

Either pay to maintain the buildings we have or sell them, it has to be on or
the other.  It is unfortunate that previous administrations did neither, both
Selectmen and Town Manager failed in their basic responsibility.  And now we we
are forced to pay the piper and it stinks.

Overall I think our tax rate is pretty low so I'm not really complaining.
11:31 pm edt 

Schools

This town is so full of wonderful artist, why not use one of the schools
as an art school. It would be great for the whole cape.
11:29 pm edt 

Friday, September 28, 2012

Town Government Spending

Why is it so unthinkable for a tax paying property owner to voice
concerns about the cost of town government? Someone is posting that union
contracts are bloated and need to be addressed, that school budgets for a small
enrollment are much to large.

I own property, pay over $10,000.00 a year in property tax and do not appreciate
it when 7 tax overrides are presented at town meeting. Let's stop wasting money,
some of it my money. I would love it if my taxes went down, once.

This is a wonderful place to live. However the police department is getting too
big, the school system is too costly, and union employee's contracts are way too
generous. All things that the manager of the town shoul be able to manage more
effectively.
11:26 pm edt 

Pension Problem

Re: "Yes we have a pension problem and it will take a lot of cash to solve
it".



Please see FinCom minutes from Jun 20, 2012.

''An update on unfunded pension costs, we are incrementally funding the
shortfall so we aiming to be fully funded by 2028, but that estimates very
optimistic rates of return. . .''

Please do a little research and get your facts correct before hollering fire in
a crowded room.
9:06 pm edt 

Town Hall Complaints

Yes it is the bloggers who are the problem.
9:04 pm edt 

Town Manager

It's time for NEW BLOGGERS not a new mgr or staff! The main difference between
the Town Manager, Asst Mgr and other on staff and YOU (complaining blogger about
TM) is that the town manager is well educuated as are the rest of the staff both
in education and experience.  Stop typing and enroll in community college...
ASAP!
6:32 pm edt 

Re: Unfunded Pension Liability

Yes we have a pension problem and it will take a lot of cash to solve it. So
does basically every single local and state government in the country. There are
several sources for this problem:

1) Unrealistic promises made in the past by politicians and administrations and
unions who aren't around long enough to see the results of their promises.

2) Lousy returns on nearly all asset classes. Many pension plans have assumed
rates of return up to 8-9% a year because for a long time that is what markets
delivered. But with bond rates at record lows and stock returns near flatlined
for 10 years these assumption don't make sense anymore. Many states and
municipalities are finally getting more realistic. Even a change in assumption
from 8% down to 6% means governments have to come up with millions more to make
up the difference over time, and 6% might be too optimistic.

3) Severe economic downturn combined with housing price drop. Lower sales taxes
and lower property taxes means less money to go around including for properly
funding pension contributions.

4) Increases in other costs. As has been demonstrated on here in the past energy
and health insurance costs are eating muni budgets alive. If health insurance
rate increases don't slow or stop eventually all the town's going to have money
for is health insurance and no other services.

5) Defined benefit plans- aka pensions versus Defined Contribution plans where
employee is responsible for managing their retirement funds. More and more the
world is moving to defined contribution plans like 401k's. A well run 401K
program with conservative balanced funds and index funds can do great for people
and be tailored to one's circumstances rather than the one size fits all
approach of a pension.

While the problem of massively underfunded pension plans does need local
attention it is also a county and statewide issue. Unions, governments and
taxpayers are all going to have to meet somewhere in the middle for a new
compact that properly funds promises made and redefines a more realistic regime
for future employees. Some states are already doing this. MA can't afford to be
too far behind because the longer the problem goes the worse it gets.
5:05 pm edt 

Salaries and Pensions

It is amazing how someone or someones are posting things here about salaries and
pensions. Even though salaries and pensions are a world wide thing and not just
in P'town amazes how the fortunate ones in P'town are being targeted. Everyone
has as much of an opportunity as the next person to apply for a town job and if
you didn't then shame on you. So why target the ones who did. If your intent is
to trim the budget by trimming the salaries and or pensions, good luck.

I think you have a better chance of seeing god first. As long as the cost of living,
taxes, rent and things like that keep going up so are the need for salaries too.

If you are not as fortunate enough to have a job that does offer a pension then
why punish the ones that do. If your other intent is to try and get the town to
trim raises and pensions, then put down your                  or the       you
are          because the reality is like I said before you have a better chance
of seeing god.
1:16 pm edt 

Town Government Spending

"To continue to give these pensions to town employees is dangerous.
The town cannot pay for them.  Fear that people will not come to work if a contract
is not renewed is a foolish reason to continue to renew contracts. There is no
money for what is now 25 million dollars in unfunded pensions liability for town
employees."



I don't believe that the $25 million figure is correct.  Where did you get your
information.
Pensions are not negotiable, and employees fund much of their own pension in
this town.  The town actually contributes only a small percentage.
It's also not 'foolish' to understand that union employees won't work without a
contract.  We've seen that precedent hundreds of times in towns and cities, and
the result is always the same-- it's the community that suffers.

You want to pay people a sub-par wage, not give them pensions, do away with
affordable housing, and expect people to be grateful for any crumbs they get. 
You make the Tea Party people look liberal.
1:10 pm edt 

Town Government Spending

 To continue to give these pensions to town employees is dangerous. The
town cannot pay for them.  Fear that people will not come to work if a contract
is not renewed is a foolish reason to continue to renew contracts. There is no
money for what is now 25 million dollars in unfunded pensions liability for town
employees.


While I'm sure you mean well, your comments make no sense.  Would you suggest we
just not renew contracts and let the garbage pile up, the grass grow, the
water/sewer system shut down if a problem comes up?  The state requires the town
to offer the pension it does so the pensions aren't negotiable until the state
revises the regulations.  According to a FinCom meeting the town's pension
obligations will be fully funded in 2032 or 2038, not sure which, but our
pension system will be fully funded.


8:57 am edt 

Re:Herring Cove Bathhouse
  
Thanks       ,  We could tell by the tone of meanness in your response it had
to be from you.  You are SOOOO much smarter than the rest of us.  So, I'd
appreciate if you could tell me WHICH selectman's meeting(date), the concession
contract was discussed and at what point during the video is this discussed.
THANKS in advance !
8:45 am edt 

Town Government Spending

All this posting about union perks, police department spending and
school budgets does seem like an agenda to get rid of the current town manager.
However, just because union contracts are set at the state level does not mean
that the unfunded penson liability of this town is smart.

To continue to give these pensions to town employees is dangerous. The town
cannot pay for them.  Fear that people will not come to work if a contract is
not renewed is a foolish reason to continue to renew contracts. There is no
money for what is now 25 million dollars in unfunded pensions liability for town
employees.

The manager or selectman or whoever needs to grow a pair and stop spending money
that is not available.
8:43 am edt 

Thursday, September 27, 2012

$200,000/Student Each Year?

Wow, you really have no idea what you are talking about do you?  You need to
take up a hobby that might keep your mind sharper.
11:22 am edt 

Town Manager

You've got one person posting over and over about 'time for a new town
manager' and that person isn't even able to produce actual facts.

It's old, no one agrees with you.
11:20 am edt 

Re: Finance Committee

"Sounds like FinCom members debating amongst each other on here. Is that a
violation of any law?"


There are other people who stay current with their knowledge besides those on
FinCom.  I have a problem with posters calling out people when this is truly an
anonymous blog.
11:18 am edt 

Re: Time for a New Town Manager!

"So pensions are set at state level, but contracts are renewed at the
local level. The town manager has the authority not to renew any of the union
contracts. She needs to stop giving raises to union employees as long as we are
paying their lifetime pensions and 80% of their health insurance."


You don't 'give' raises to union employees.  Both sides negotiate HARD to get
the best deal they can.  But the previous poster was correct.  If consensus
cannot be reached, workers walk off the job when their contract expires.  Can
you imagine summer in Provincetown with no garbage removal?
No one who works for this town is overpayed.  If you look at comparable salaries
on the cape, Provincetown is consistently at the bottom.
I'd love to see the 'improvements' you'd make if you were town manager.  Union
not ratifying contracts; non-union employees quitting because they don't ever
receive raises; buildings falling down in disrepair because you don't want to
invest in them.  That's an awesome strategy... if you want to destroy a town.
11:17 am edt 

Re: Town Manager

"The Town Manager did a good job when  she first came to town. Now we
need different skills in a Town Manager."



What skills?

11:11 am edt 

Re: Town Manager

"The Town Manager did a good job when  she first came to town. Now we
need different skills in a Town Manager.

But until the next election, this one has free reign and it is impossible to
over estimate the damage she will do on the way out "


The same person posts this repeatedly, using the same language.  Our town is in
better shape than it was 10 years ago, largely because of competent leadership. 
You obviously have a personal vendetta against the town manager.  I'd recommend
either meeting with her to see if you can resolve your differences, or manning
up and going on with your life.
11:09 am edt 

Re: Town Manager

"Can the elementary school be privitized? Can it become a charter
school? We are paying about $200,000.00/student a year now. Should we close the
school? Does the town manager have any ideas about this?

Time for a new town manager!"


Time for a more informed citizenry.  The school budget is somewhere around $3
million. That includes the cost we pay other schools for Ptown students who
attend elsewhere.  If we were paying $200,000 per student the budget would be
well over $25 million.

Education costs, whether it happens here in Provincetown or somewhere else. This
being the 21st century, not the 19th, there's a federal requirement to educate
children.  It's an investment in the town's future, so buck up.
11:07 am edt 

Re; Herring Cove Bathhouse

IF you attended selectman meetings you would have seen the entire presentation
of the entire complex and how it will be **MOVABLE** if circumstances require.

State of the art, discreet, functional and excellent. Watch PTV..it seems that
I'm in the know about everthing that is going on.

it seems that MOST of The people who blog on here are ignorant of the facts and
just fabricate and jump to conclusionis..

As one person related to me,"I read the blog for comic relief LOL". I see his
point.
11:05 am edt 

Re: Town Manager

Can the elementary school be privitized? Can it become a charter
school? We are paying about $200,000.00/student a year now. Should we close the
school? Does the town manager have any ideas about this?

Time for a new town manager!
7:26 am edt 

Town Hall

You Have some People who still think town hall is closed on Friday.
That may explain fewer people. but those who do know, use it. This is a tourist
town with many second home owners who are only here on Fridays to sundays.

We need five day a week coverage. but even now, if you go at one o'clock, town
hall is closed. So that may explain why few may be there too. It is closed at
noon.

Silly!
7:25 am edt 

New Police Station

Appearance versus need....

Trust me. They would never get a vote if it was based on their appearance.
Imagine a calendar featuring our police officers sans clothing. Ugh..... I'd
rather not...

That having been said, let's focus on need.

Build a new station or fix the problems with the current station.

Fix it.

7:21 am edt 

Who? What? Where are the Finn Com Members Here?

All in your poor little imagination. You don't know who is posting and who is
not. I don't even hear anyone who sounds like they are on finn com. I do hear
concerned citizens and some that are quite informed about financial issues.

7:19 am edt 

Re: Town Manager

"She can recommend that the crazy amount of repair money for the high
school not happen."


What are you recommending we do with the high school building?  Let it fall down
or close it or what?  I don't understand why we wouldn't maintain the town
buildings we own, that sounds like the thinking of the previous selectmen.

7:17 am edt 

Re: Town Manager

". . .The town manager has the authority not to renew any of the union
contracts. She needs to stop giving raises to union employees  . . ."



And you need to stop whining.  Although I'd love to see what happens when the
town manager says no pay increases and the town staff go on strike on July 1st
and the garbage piles up everywhere because no one is picking it up.
7:16 am edt 

Re: Town Manager

The Town Manager did a good job when  she first came to town. Now we
need different skills in a Town Manager.

But until the next election, this one has free reign and it is impossible to
over estimate the damage she will do on the way out
7:12 am edt 

Re: Herring Cove Beach Bathhouse

Has the Department of Interior presented to the local community what the new
Herring Cove Beach Bathhouse will look like and what purpose it will fulfill ?
Will it be a Bathhouse, snack bar or Sushi bar? What's the deal on the
concession lease, which local was awarded it ?  Will it be obnoxious in
appearance or blend with the horizontal?  Solar powered?
7:11 am edt 

Wednesday, September 26, 2012

Re: Comment on Pay Raises

" . . .We said No and she said Yes to circumvent the raises. tow hall
was closed on Friday and we had a mess. .  ."



You had a mess in your imagination.  I asked a couple of employees how busy they
were on Fridays now that they were open Friday mornings.  Was told very few
people come in on Fridays, many days they have no one.
7:52 am edt 

Time For a New Town Manager!

So pensions are set at state level, but contracts are renewed at the
local level. The town manager has the authority not to renew any of the union
contracts. She needs to stop giving raises to union employees as long as we are
paying their lifetime pensions and 80% of their health insurance.

She can say no to the police chief when he wants more than this little town
needs 8 months of the year (police on the pier,really).

She can recommend that the crazy amount of repair money for the high school not
happen.

Time for a new town manager!
7:37 am edt 

Finance Committee

Sounds like FinCom members debating amongst each other on here. Is that a
violation of any law?
7:34 am edt 

Re: Well Fields and Street Paving

TWO NEW WELL FIELDS
What is the story about the two new well fields. They are being dug in Truro..so
we will have an ample water supply?

COMMERCIAL STREET PAVING..Is this paving going on this winter and then next
winter too? I guess this isn't really just a smooth layer being laid down--but
digging down four feet and removing everything?

What happens when they get to the bank and the post office?
7:33 am edt 

Mr. Webmaster ....

". . Look at what is being accomplished in this town. What an amazing
period for Provincetown. . ."



The type of positive comment is inappropriate for this blog.  Mr. Webmaster if
you are going to post these comments I will no longer read this blog.
7:32 am edt 

Re: Comment on Pay Raises

Re: "I think all department heads should be paid $50,000 a year.  If
they aren't a department head they should be paid $40,000 a year.  That's enough
for them to live on, they don't need anything else."



Think that's a bad idea?  Why?  Because pay should be determined by the
position, the qualifications needed, the experience needed, the going rate for a
position?


SPOT ON !
7:27 am edt 

Street Closing Time Line

On October 15, 2012 digging will begin near Freeman street and Commercial
Street.

I think that it is rather naive for us businesses owners to be demanding a time
table down to the day of where this project will be when the start date is three
weeks away.

This isn't a wedding being planned down to the minute--its a workforce of men
and big, heavy machinery removing 3 blocks of streets and sidewalks 24 feet wide
from Freman street to Court street.

We have known all summer that this day is coming. Prepare, prepare, prepare. We
are talking 2 or 3 weeks in the winter--not the entire summer.
7:25 am edt 

Tuesday, September 25, 2012

DPW 3 Major Projects

Amazing! Two major WATER PROJECTS and now removing Commercial Street and the
sidewalks and creating a band new street!

Look at what is being accomplished in this town. What an amazing period for
Provincetown. New water pipes throughout the town, new connections to the waste
water treatment plant, new wells being dug--Millions upon millions in grants.

A total renewal of Provincetown infrastructure.
11:38 am edt 

Re: Comment on Pay Raises - Hello! Is Anyone Out There?

"For that much money they should show some backbone and find a way to
renegotiate these benefit packages and reduce the size of the school and police
work force.
Time for a new town manager."



It's like arguing with a rock.  Except maybe the rock has a few more brain
cells.  Pensions are not set locally, they are set at the state level.  You can
get yourself 40 new town managers and not one of them will be able to change the
pensions at the local level.
11:34 am edt 

Jeff and Police Spending

He IS pretty but come on!  Can someone say E-G-O!!!
11:28 am edt 

Re: Comment on Pay Raises

Town voted down the Pay Raises for employees a Few Years Ago and what
happened?

Sharon Lynn set up the disastrous four day work week with paid lunches for
employees. We said No and she said Yes to circumvent the raises. tow hall was
closed on Friday and we had a mess. But we said No  to the annual, automatic pay
raises.

In tough economic times, you do not give automatic pay raises. 2% on 2% on 2%
for twnety years surely gives significant salaries for many. and it is still a
fiscal problem we must face, not to mention their pensions and their health
care. Add that in to see exactly how much town employess are making!
11:27 am edt 

Crime Before and After Jaran

Answer is not to chastise Sharon BUT to vote down Jaran's endless requests for
police force and all the extras. Prev blogger is correct; We had no crime for 30
years except isolated incidents and so the ridiculous NYC police force we have
built up really is unnecessary and a complete waste of funds that could be going
towards the new police station.  Stop voting yes for summer hire cops that stand
around and socialize and all the other extra bs we're buying.  In fact let's
vote to reduce the staff and cap it.  We need 4 fulltime and 4 part time
officers and make due.  This has gotten out of hand but it's not Sharon,,, we
the voters drank the juice and need to kick the habit.  Just Say No!!!
11:23 am edt 

Re: Comment on Pay Raises

I think all department heads should be paid $50,000 a year.  If they
aren't a department head they should be paid $40,000 a year.  That's enough for
them to live on, they don't need anything else.

Think that's a bad idea?  Why?  Because pay should be determined by the
position, the qualifications needed, the experience needed, the going rate for a
position?

Exactly.
11:21 am edt 

Re: Comment on Pay Raises

All this talk of non-union town employee pay is not the issue being
raised. Union employees-administrative, police, teachers- should not be getting
any raises period. As long as they have these crazy benefit packages-pension,
health insurance, and who knows what else, no more money. The town manager,
police chief, and school superintendent make well over a $100,000.00 a year. For
that much money they should show some backbone and find a way to renegotiate
these benefit packages and reduce the size of the school and police work force.
Time for a new town manager.
11:17 am edt 

Comment on Pay Raises

A town employee gets a 2% pay raise. Even though that may sound or look like
allot to some, keep in mind what ever that figure comes to, a 2% pay raise to an
individual town employee amounts to nothing. By the time it's taxed, blue
cross/blue shield takes their yearly share, a town employee gets a very samll
amount of that 2% on his check.Now if you want to make issues out of what
percentage a town employee makes, then let's talk about the police chief who got
a $17,000 pay raise over a two year period and leave the poor town employee
alone.
9:18 am edt 

Re: Town Employees on Meager Pay?

"Most town employees are paid quite well and would be absolutely fine
without an annual pay raise."



Proof please.

And who are you to say they will be absolutely fine without an annual pay
increase?  If I was a town employee I'd cut back on my hours and effort.  If the
town does not want to pay for quality then I'll provide them with what they pay
for.  And as soon as the first opportunity came up I'd be out of here.
9:16 am edt 

Re: Town Employees on Meager Pay?

". . .But to be more insulting, the department heads, who make more
money, normaly get at least what the union gets and then some but based on a
higher base salary . . ."



If only you knew what you what you were talking about.  In the last ten years a
number of times non-union staff were told there would be no increase.  This
happened at least three different years.  As a result the pay for a number of
non-union employees has fallen far below what they should be paid.

Do some research on this as I did.  Most of our non-union employees are paid at
the bottom of the range on Cape Cod.  I think someone told me our assistant town
manager is the lowest paid on the Cape.  Do a google search on Cape Cod
municipal salaries and tell us what you find.  Or keep spouting off without
facts to back it up.
9:14 am edt 

Re: Commercial Street - Organ Transplant

Not one business owner said they were AGAINST the repaving of downtown, all of
us year rounders, business owners and visitors are in total support of the
"organ transplant" It is the lack of a clear defined schedule of events to occur
that puts all of us in the "dark". How can an intelligent person ask a question
at a public forum and expect an answer for that person to plan for the next 6
month when the proponent of the project still has not provide a timeline for the
construction to occur. Planning and information and flexibility are the KEY here
folks and the more the public is informed as soon as possible the better off we
all are. So don't trash the business owners we are the ones open year round
trying to keep this community alive in the slow fall, winter and spring months.
THe water main replacement was a success and this business owner is hopeful that
this next phase will be as successful!
9:13 am edt 

Re: Commercial Street - Organ Transplant

If the scrubbing down 4 Ft. part is true, sounds like the job will be done
right.  also, an anthropologist should be on call during the excavation phase in
case an oddity is found. Lord knows what might be uncovered and revealed !

9:10 am edt 

Re: Town Employees on Meager Pay?

Pay raises are a touchy subject, especially in a union mentality. The best
employee gets his 2% but that also means the worst employee gets his 2%. But to
be more insulting, the department heads, who make more money, normaly get at
least what the union gets and then some but based on a higher base salary. A
secretary making $40K gets $800 gross raise on 2% but the $100K department head
gets $2000! Stipends are the way to go once the salary reaches a certain point.
Stop raises on big salaries.
8:35 am edt 

Commercial Street - Organ Transplant

Starting October 15th, Commercial street will start to be ripped from town from
one side of the street to the other including curbs, sidewalks
road--everything--from Freeman street to Winthrop street.

Not a repaving, but ripping down 4ft below the ground removing everything and
getting an entire vergin road.

A vast understaking--and who complains? Why business owners who complain about
their store or business being out of commission for a two weeks while this major
organ transplant takes place that will benefit tens of thousands of people each
summer for generations to come.

How self centered can these rich business owners be?
8:33 am edt 

Bradford Street Bike Lanes

"Congrats on getting pro bono work done by traffic engineers for the
bicycle and pedestrian lanes! You guys are covering all bases to get this public
safety effort done "



We'd like to see the traffic engineer's study, pls share with us or make it
available via the town website

Also thanks for getting it pro bono, I just hope it was a traffic engineer who did
the study and not a civil engineer...there is a difference.
8:31 am edt 

Re: Bike Lane

To the previous blogger could not find traffic study done by the Cape Cod
Commission engineers as you posted

Checked the Cape Cod Commission web site and found studies this yr for bikes by
town.

Developing a plan for integrating existing bike/pedestrian facilities and using
excess of Route 6 right-of-way. Share the road connection between Province Lands
bike trails and downtown Provincetown.

Installation of self-activated warning beacon, signage, and crosswalk at
intersection of Provincelands Trail and Race Point Road at Beech Forest.
Study complete 12/2011. Sharrows and bike racks to be installed summer 2012.
Public workshop held August 2012
Funding for design and construction awarded.
Funding awarded.

Study underway. (Fog line painted  creating 3-4 shoulder in places.)
Review of alternative routes/concepts underway.
Provincetown, Truro and Route 6 Multiuse Path Master Planning and Conceptual
Design project.

Provincetown    Race Point/Macmillan Pier Bicycle
Provincetown
Connection
Cape Cod National Seashore pedestrian and bicycle crossings improvements.
Provincetown     Shankpainter Road Improvements   Proposed sidewalk improvements
and bicycle lane on Shankpainter Road

If you can find the traffic study or the date when it was completed for Bradford 
Street please let us know so we also can be informed and get a copy of the study.
8:27 am edt 

Re: Town Employees on Meager Pay?

Most town employees are paid quite well and would be absolutely fine
without an annual pay raise. In tough economic times, everyone needs to tighten
up their belts and our leaders should lead by example. They could show their
commitment to our community by forgoing an annual raise. It's not like these are
minimum wage jobs were talking about, far from it. If such well paid people
constantly need "cost of living" pay increases, maybe should cut back a bit on
their living expenses. That's what most of us do when things get tight.

Signed,

another "nay-sayer" who dares question authority
8:23 am edt 

Monday, September 24, 2012

Town Employees on Meager Pay?

You have to be kidding. they are paid well and some paid just too much. this is
a small town; it is not New York. And the pay increases are an affront to all of
us when this town and the state and the country are facing tight economic issues
and need fiscal restraints. this is not the time when you give out pay raises.
Sharon should show the best example by not taking pay raises. but I know that
would be fantasy land. And so for Jeff Jaran. they eat up each pay raise and
then the next year, they get raises on raises and the salaries are out of whack
with this small town.

They have not stopped crime. This is Provincetown. It hardly has ever had crime.
It's safe becuse it's small and people know each other and watch out for each
other.
10:43 pm edt 

B uilding Committee

The Building Committee has been working diligently since June, please come to
one of their meetings at 8 am on Thursday mornings and you can be part of the
process or just complain and make assertions against our Chief and TM without
any merit or logic. Town employees from the top down are working hard and care
about this community and their performance, are there some who may not be up to
the task , I am sure the answer is yes. Many can second guess and play MONDAY
morning quarterback which is not productive at all. Be part of the solution and
not part of the problem. We need more leaders in this town and less followers
and naysayers!!! I hope i didn't mispell anything:)

Year rounder, tax payer and business owner and i own a bike:)
10:41 pm edt 

Time For a New Town Manager!

When the summer ends and the number of visitors declines dramatically,
does the police department decrease it's size as well? There used to be a large
number of summer hires for the police force, small force in off-season. Now
there is a cop car parked around corners all over town in the winter months.
The police department's budget in a bloated mess. There was very little crime in
this town before the new police chief arrived. Why does he continue to grow the
force, spend our money like crazy, and get a rubber stamp approval by the town
manager for everything he asks for.
Time for a new town manager!
10:39 pm edt 

Where is the Proposed Bradford Street Area for a Bike Lane?

From where to where? What area is being proposed for the bike lane? Why not
commcerical Street for a bike lane? Oh, too crowded but still the bikes will
come and go.
7:45 pm edt 

Re: Employment

"The Town of Provincetown is the biggest employer in this town.  What are the
second and third?"


My guess would be Stop 'n Shop and Outer Cape, or perhaps one of the larger
restaurants like Lobster Pot.
7:41 pm edt 

Great Job

"No town employee should feel that their job is for life, especially
the town manager. This town manager has been umable to do one of the most basic
tasks, control employee costs. The contracts of all town employees should not
include pensions for life, 80% health care shares, and pay increases in this
economic climate. She herself should not be taking a pay raise, period.
She is unable to say no to police chief, who loves to piss-away money.
Time for someone new."



So you think town staff should not receive their meager pay increases, despite
the increased cost of living?  Would you recommend that strategy for your family
and friends, that they not take salary increases?

Your complaint regarding the TM being unable to say no to the chief is
ridiculous, as is your vulgar comment.

Provincetown has virtually NO crime, despite the heavy influx of strangers each
day.  Do you think it's just dumb luck, or could it be that the police are doing
a good job?

Chief Jaran is experienced and professional and has done a great job for this
thankless town.
7:39 pm edt 

Re: Special Town Meeting

"Does anyone know why there is a special town meeting next month. Is
the town manager and police chief trying to get a 14 million dollar police
station through again? "


The Building Committee was specifically appointed to research the need for a new
station, its location if one is needed, and the requirements for such a
facility.

Obviously, since they just began work they have not completed their assigned
work, so they have not made recommendations to the BOS.  Without that report,
and without BOS approval and FinCom approval, the town manager and police chief
are not going to move forward.

Think thing                                                                 .
7:31 pm edt 

Re: Bradford Street - Bike Lane

I live on Bradford Street. Will the bike lane construction be
replacing sidewalks? Will the town be taking some of my property? Will traffic
lanes become smaller? How is this going to happen? Does any one know the plan?
7:26 pm edt 

Re: Leadership

"..REALLY   I thought you had enough self respect to let someone
go and relise you did a poor job at that...then just leave it alone!!  But to
make a call and have that person loose their job?????  WHAT THE???
REALLY??????"


Where did you get this information? Is it just speculation that the town manager
consciously tried to have someone fired from another job or were you in the room
when she made the call.  What you're saying is libel unless you have proof-- but
why ask for proof when you just want to smear someone's good name?
11:22 am edt 

Memo to: Town Manager and Chief of Police...

Your not running the state just a little former fishing comm...lets try and keep that in mind
11:20 am edt 

Re: Bradford Street Bike Lane

Congrats on getting pro bono work done by traffic engineers for the
bicycle and pedestrian lanes! You guys are covering all bases to get this public
safety effort done once and for all! It's great you are getting input from Town
boards too like the School Committee and Disabilities Commission! For the idiot
to post Town boards can be cajoled or bullied into supporting something they
really don't want is a patent lie!

Signed someone who has gotten hit
by a car on Bradford Street!
11:18 am edt 

Re: Leadership

"Im sorry...Town Manager walks into her office and
finds out a person she terminated has a new job.  What does she do??"



Complete lie.  Did not happen.  You may want to check your sources because they
are liars.  Or was it your intent to lie?
11:14 am edt 

Re: New Town Manager

" still think it is time for a new town manager. She does have the
authrity to negotiate union contracts, and does not. The library was not her
doing(Cheryl Andrews), and the library we did have was fine. The street paving
was not her doing(Elaine Anderson),and should wait until they finish the sewer
expansion.

It is time for a new person to come in, simple. "


You don't make any case for a new town manager, admitting that the problems the
town has or had are the responsibility of other people.  She does in fact
negotiate union contracts.
It's time for people to have a little respect for what the town manager does. 

It's a thankless job and you have no idea how much work she does.


11:12 am edt 

Proofread Before Posting
Observations

Bike Lane

80% of the people that park on bradford st. live here year round and were
born hear.


Town MANAGER

   THE TOWN MANAGER SHOULD'VE BEEN SOMEONE FROM OUT OF TOWN, AND NOT FAMILIAR
WITH ANYONE HEAR OR FRIENDS.


Re the 2 posts above: it's HERE, not HEAR.  Come on, people, proofread before
you post if you want to have any credibility.
11:10 am edt 

Special Town Meeting

Does anyone know why there is a special town meeting next month. Is
the town manager and police chief trying to get a 14 million dollar police
station through again?
10:16 am edt 

New Town Manager

I still think it is time for a new town manager. She does have the
authrity to negotiate union contracts, and does not. The library was not her
doing(Cheryl Andrews), and the library we did have was fine. The street paving
was not her doing(Elaine Anderson),and should wait until they finish the sewer
expansion.

It is time for a new person to come in, simple.
10:15 am edt 

Employment

The Town of Provincetown is the biggest employer in this town.  What are the
second and third?
10:13 am edt 

Re: Leadership....

Im sorry...Town Manager walks into her office and
finds out a person she terminated has a new job.  What does she do??   gets on
the phone to use power (LOL) to have that person terminated from new job....keep
up the good work sweety    you;ll be gone in no time
10:11 am edt 

Re: Bike Lane

Re:"If we take those parking spots away has thought been given to where
people park?

Instead of pushing this down the throats of the Board of Selectmen, the right
approach is to have this study by traffic engineers to see what is best."


There are plenty of places to park in Provincetown. I have lived here for years
in various locations and have never been fortunate enough to have a parking spot
on the street in front of my home. But I deal with it. And correct me if I'm
wrong, but aren't those spots first-come, first-serve? It's not "your" spot
anyway, so don't act like it's being taken away from you. The bike lane is a
great idea and is an issue of public safety. More and more pedestrians and
bikers use Bradford St. every year. Are we going to wait for a fatality before
we implement some safety measures? I say it's worth sacrificing the few parking
spots that will be eliminated.

And the LAST thing we need to do is spend a bunch of town money hiring traffic
engineers to do a "study" on the matter. It's common sense, we don't need a
study. This town wastes more money hiring expensive "professionals" to to
studies than anywhere I've ever lived.
10:05 am edt 

Re: Bike Lane

'Instead of pushing this down the throats of the Board of Selectmen,
the right approach is to have this study by traffic engineers to see what is
best.'


Why don't you get your facts in order before you post prejudicial rumors?

The Cape Cod Commission(traffic engineers) and Cape Cod National Seashore both
support continuing the bike/pedestrian lanes on Bradford Street. Both have given
technical assistance and will be presenting to the Selectmen.

The only thing that's being 'pushed down throats' is misinformation to cause
prejudice.
10:02 am edt 

Re: Bank Lane

As a year rounder living in the West End i find it a bit insulting when bloggers
"generalize" a group of citizens regarding where they can park their car.
Obviously every home owner or renter would like to park as close to their front
door as possible. I am sick and tired of "people" who have more time on their
hands to rile up everyone and expect everyone to jump on his or her bandwagon of
the month. Candace has done some good things for this community and should be
thanked for it but please STOP going before every board in town and attempting
to court public opinion, bully and cajole everyone for your cause. THe proper
procedure it to present it a THE SPRING Traffic hearing which has been the modus
operandi for this issue for years!! Let it be Public, let the people who actually
live in the West End whether it be PT or Full time to voice their concerns then
the ELECTED officials can make a sound judgement, (I know that may be a stretch
but let's give them the benefit of the doubt)Have One hearing so all parties can be
at the table as opposed to going around to every board and getting a "vote" of
confidence 6 months before a hearing.
9:58 am edt 

Parking

The Community Center has 17 parking spots! Let's have a pay station
there and only allow residential parking for 48 hours at a time like McMillan
Pier!

The library and Wydah Museum don't have any on site parking.
Selling the Community Center building to a non-profit without adjacent parking
will make it more affordable!

Why give away the parking there  when the Town could make over $100,000 year
after year?
9:55 am edt 

Re: Town Manager

What the Blogger Wants From the Town Manager

It is completely transparent what our vengeful blogger who rails against the
town manager ad naseum on here wants:

1) revenge for being downsized out of a job
2) a compliant stooge that does his and his cohorts bidding

He couldn't give a rats-    about proper management of the town or the many many
successes of the current administration of town government in the toughest
environment since the Depression.
9:54 am edt 

Observations

Bike Lane

80% of the people that park on bradford st. live here year round and were
born hear.


Town MANAGER

   THE TOWN MANAGER SHOULD'VE BEEN SOMEONE FROM OUT OF TOWN, AND NOT FAMILIAR
WITH ANYONE HEAR OR FRIENDS.
9:51 am edt 

Sunday, September 23, 2012

Re: Bradford Street - Bike Lane

"Most of the people parking on Bradford do not even live here.  And most parking
on Bradford St do not own property or pay property taxes.  Why should they get
free spots."


To the previous poster, I beg to differ, the majority of people who park their
cars on Bradford are year rounders.  If you are concerned with loss of revenue
maybe we should make those spots parking with meters or stickers as other
parking spots along Commerical st that go as far down the west end to the
Provincetown Inn.


If we take those parking spots away has thought be giving to where people park?

Instead of pushing this down the throats of the Board of Selectmen, the right
approach is to have this study by traffic engineers to see what is best.

I also have spoken to homeowners along Bradford and not everyone is happy of
losing parking I front of their homes.

This can be done but it needs to be done right and not without the proper
studies including the cost to taxpayers!

Do the right thing...........
8:57 am edt 

Re: Town Manager

"No town employee should feel that their job is for life, especially
the town manager. This town manager has been umable to do one of the most basic
tasks, control employee costs."



The control you speak of is the job of our Fin Com. Their job is to do just what
you suggested. And each year at town meeting, those who attend approve the
budget, with the recommendations of Fin Com.


8:55 am edt 

Re: Town Manager

"Does anyone know when the town managers contract expires? I would
likebe present for the selectmen's meeting."


If you did show up at the Selectmen meeting you would probably hide in the back
and not say a word.  Don't think you have the       to do anything except take
cowardly anonymous pot shots at people in positions of authority.
8:52 am edt 

Sharon

Sharon did all that??   well its good to see she is doing somthing required from her
job!!   NEVER A DULL MOMENT
8:51 am edt 

Leadership

      ...REALLY   I thought you had enough self respect to let someone
go and relise you did a poor job at that...then just leave it alone!!  But to
make a call and have that person loose their job?????  WHAT THE???         
REALLY??????
8:49 am edt 

Re: Town Manager

".  .  . The contracts of all town employees should not include
pensions for life.  .  ."



Just a sample of your ignorance.  Pension laws have been set by the state, can't
change them at the local level even if you wanted to do so.

Pay increases?  You want to keep qualified employees you need to pay them at
least close to what they are worth.  Our pay rates for non-union town employees
is among the lowest on the Cape.  Oh, I get it, you want to go back to the times
when we hired only based on who knew who and how long they lived here.
8:47 am edt 

Saturday, September 22, 2012

Re: Town Manager

No town employee should feel that their job is for life, especially
the town manager. This town manager has been umable to do one of the most basic
tasks, control employee costs. The contracts of all town employees should not
include pensions for life, 80% health care shares, and pay increases in this
economic climate. She herself should not be taking a pay raise, period.
She is unable to say no to police chief, who loves to piss-away money.
Time for someone new.
9:09 am edt 

Bradford Street - Bike Lane

The so-called bike lane that is proposed for Bradford St will be for
pedestrians and cyclists, just like the highly popular and successful one that
was installed a couple of years ago on Moors Rd.  This will give people walking
or riding a bicycle a lane to use rather than have to fight with motorists for a
safe place to travel.

Most of the people parking on Bradford do not even live here.  And most parking
on Bradford St do not own property or pay property taxes.  Why should they get
free parking?
9:07 am edt 

Re: Town Manager

Does anyone know when the town managers contract expires? I would like
be present for the selectmen's meeting. Time for a new town manager!

Really? Your post makes me wonder about what is it you really want. Her
contract, as are all public officials, available for review at Town Hall. Look
for yourself.

Why wait for her contract to expire to talk to the Selectmen?  You can speak at
their regular meetings, held every other Monday, during public statements. If
you're that unhappy, get yourself down to Town Hall and let them know. That's
the beauty of democracy.

What concerns me is your hidden message. What exactly is it you want the Town
Manager to do that she hasn't yet done? Jump through a burning hoop?

Here's a partial list of her accomplishments
:
Repaving of Commercial Street
Sewer expansion
Town Hall renovation
Balance the budget
Remove Provincetown from the DOR watch list
Complete the library renovation

Need I go on?

Can't wait to hear your public statement about why we need a new Town
Manager....

9:05 am edt 

Watch Your Wallet

"Again, time for a new town manager. When her contract expires do not
renew it.  We need new ideas that cost less money in dealing with this
dynamic,ever changing town."


Don't even bother until after the next election The Selectmen have given her
outstanding reviews. We'll have to hold those who run for Selectmen accountable
for what they plan to do. In the meantime watch your wallet in Town Meeting
9:03 am edt 

This Week's Banner Headlines

"Wellfield Work Begins"
"Learn What You Can Do in an Emergency"
"Wastewater Treatment Plant Expansion Under Way"
"Water Line Repairs Lay Groundwork for Paving Project"

Many of these articles refer to massive grants for these projects.

Seems to me that we are getting a lot of bang for our buck from our current town
administration under the leadership of the current town manager.

- not a town employee or sleeping with one (just a taxpayer btw)
9:01 am edt 

Friday, September 21, 2012

Re: Town Manager

These general slurs pop up regularly, probably by the same bitter person.
You say there's a need for a new town manager.  Why? Name the problems the
current one has created, making sure they're her responsibility and not that of
the Board of Selectmen.

Then list the qualities you think a new town manager should have.
Also, explain what's so 'dynamic' about this town that makes it different from
other places.
10:19 am edt 

Re: Town Manager

Does anyone know when the town managers contract expires? I would like
be present for the selectmen's meeting. Time for a new town manager!
9:13 am edt 

Affordable Housing

I'm looking forward to next year because i will park my car on this site, rarely
move it and never get ticketed !
8:36 am edt 

Parking

Parking is being [taken] away for a bike trail on Bradford st. wonder where all
these people will park who have been parking on the street for years. I say make
the bikers obey the laws like the cars do. what about all the people that walk
on Bradford.
8:35 am edt 

Thursday, September 20, 2012

Re: Affordable Housing - Babies

Somebody wrote here that maybe the new tenants in affordabe housing
would have babies istead of dogs. What a good idea. Babies don't poop on peoples
lawns like dogs do and there'd be a need for the schools here again,high school
included. What an ingenious idea! Get busy!
11:05 pm edt 

Re: Clear Cutting - Looking for Answers

Can one of you genius' tell me why a tree is so important as opposed to the
undergrowth around the tree? Which one is green space? According to what some in
here are claiming, the tree can be surrounded by pavement but the tree remaining
will be the greatest greenspace ever yet convert an overgrown lot with scub
pines and scub oak and overgrowth to one with planters and lawn(oh the horror,
that four letter word for grass!!) and that's not greenspace? How many of you
complaining in here have placed development restrictions on your own properties
stating that furture buyers can't develop the property or diminish the green
space you all have?
11:04 pm edt 

Town Manager

Again, time for a new town manager. When her contract expires do not
renew it.  We need new ideas that cost less money in dealing with this
dynamic,ever changing town.
10:59 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing - Babies

There is NO industry or sustainable income year-round that would encourage
ANYONE with or going to have kids to move here.  That is why the population with
kids is gone.  Whale Blubber days have long since passed.  The only sustainable
factor here is tourism and no one wants to admit that it is the ONLY thing that
keeps this town going.
3:53 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing - We Are Not Bitter

I know there was a lottery.  I also know that everyone that collects cash from
what they do in this town, does not report it on their tax forms.  I am not
making an assumption.   (Well, they might report a few bucks, but they do not
report a majority of income to state or federal)    So, yes there was a lottery. 
Yes everyone had to meet income guidlines.   How do we control that?   Once
again, it is the people that live around us that should report any activity that
they might notice that is out of place.  

Lets leave it at that.

3:29 pm edt 

Truth be Told

Why is it that whenever someone in this town criticizes or complains
or voices an opinion that is in opposition of the majority he is dismissed as a
"nay-sayer" or "negative" or "bitter?"

I've lived here for a long time and don't get me wrong, I love living here, but
one of the most frustrating things about Provincetown being constantly
surrounded by people with a tourist mentality who continually reply "look on the
bright side, you're in Provincetown" or implore people with legitimate problems
or issues to "turn that frown upside down." Despite what these folks may think,
I don't really believe people complain just for the sake of complaining. They
complain because they're disgusted, or disenfranchised, or feel they've been
unjustly treated. More power to you if you don't have important concerns or
serious problems, but don't you dare tell me I shouldn't voice my concern simply
because it puts a damper on your day! Why are you even reading a blog like this
if your life is so perfect? Go to the beach or something, but please, stop being
so disrespectful to people with legitimate problems. This is a forum designed to
air our concerns. We are citizens with ever!
y right to complain about injustices, not nay-sayers.
3:27 pm edt 

Affordable Housing

Someone should point out the fact that if a man and woman move here
affordably, they may make a baby! Which would populate the town again someday
maybe? Someone's got to keep the population going besides dressed up  pugs and
rat dogs.
1:56 pm edt 

Re: Clear Cutting - Looking for Answers

Greenspace requirements may be cited somewhere in the town by-laws.
1:55 pm edt 

90 Shank Painter

Another drink on you? I'm sorry I didn't realize you also pay for our groceries.
I also love how no one else in this town drinks or does drugs except those who
live in affordable units. Wake up. Get over yourselves. These units are here and
no one can get rid of them. So live with it! Hopefully there will be more. No one
ever cares about over development when its a fancy house on a hill. God forbid
we help out some families. I almost regret the fact that I got a unit here. It
would have been nice to get away from the idiotic people who only care about
themselves and their kind. But actually I will look on the bright side of it and
at least be happy that me being here upsets you.  Get a life! Contrary to what
you may think I have a great one and am happy as hell to be able to afford to
remain in this beautiful town.
1:54 pm edt 

Re: Clear Cutting - Looking for Answers

Window boxes, a hanging plant, parking spaces, etc. are all greenspace so that
every possible inch can be maximized for profit.  Simple homework assignment. 
Pick any recent condo development and do a general off the cuff examination of
what you think is actual real green space. 10% 20% 30%...  Compare with the
requirements and post your results.
1:50 pm edt 

Re: Clear Cutting - Looking for Answers

The original question Requarding clear cutting or the amount of
Green space allowed in town for development , Has not been answered!!
What town dept. regulates this???? And where should we begin to
Change this???

I am looking for answers, not rhetoric.
12:18 pm edt 

Is the Warrant Closed?

If it is, when will it be printed for the public? Or is it still open so that
BOS can still add new articles?
11:46 am edt 

Now You Value the Horse Stables We Had

Now all the land turned into condos. There was surely a beauty before at Nelson
Avenue and West wine. but now---chop it all down. Build and build again. we need
more restricted zoning that would not allow this. time to stop profit over open
space; money over stunning landscapes.
9:52 am edt 

Re: 90 Shank Painter

"By the way I like my beer out of a glass not the bottle. You are all
seriously a bunch of *****"



With your blog, you fortify the statements posted prior to yours, in opposition. 
Good job.  Have another drink on us.
9:49 am edt 

Re: 90 Shank Painter

"SO who and how did these people get to get places here.  I know 2
waiters that
make ALL CASH, and the place they are employed doesn't submit any type of stubs
AND a massage guy that works at                    and               and works
out of his home.  ALL CASH.
Not fair to everyone else that has taxes taken out and works legit.   IF you see
people coming and going for            you that live there legit, should report
him"


Again with the bitterness!
There was a lottery system to select the people who received the units.  It was
well publicized and open to all who met the income guidelines.
You don't really KNOW if people are paying taxes, you're making assumptions.
9:47 am edt 

Wednesday, September 19, 2012

90 Shank Painter

I love seeing all the nay sayers on this blog. So angry but you can't stop it! 
Make sure to beep next time you go by so I can wave! By the way I like my beer
out of a glass not the bottle. You are all seriously a bunch of       . All I
have to say is if me living here upsets you all so much I may never want to
leave!
2:05 pm edt 

Re: 90 Shankpainter

Once again, you're complaining about something that happened more than a year
ago and cannot be undone.  The buildings are completed and occupied.
Move on, don't just sit around and complain about things that are done and over.
2:02 pm edt 

90 Shank Painter

SO who and how did these people get to get places here.  I know 2 waiters that
make ALL CASH, and the place they are employed doesn't submit any type of stubs
AND a massage guy that works at                    and               and works
out of his home.  ALL CASH.
Not fair to everyone else that has taxes taken out and works legit.   IF you see
people coming and going for            you that live there legit, should report
him
1:59 pm edt 

Tuesday, September 18, 2012

90 Shank Painter

I like the simple straight forward architectural design.  Plant beach plum rose
bushes, fountain grasses and fruit trees.  It can/should be lovely.
10:28 pm edt 

Re: 90 Shank Painter

"Keep em close to the police station.... thats what I say.

Half are on drugs, and the rest are sipping from the bottle."


Uh, news flash buddy, you just described 95% of the entire population of
Provincetown. Of course, any time anyone points out this obvious fact, everyone
starts screaming "mind your own business," or "we live here so we can enjoy our
bohemian lifestyle," or "this is Helltown, if you don't like it YOU should
leave!"

Trust me, this problem will never be addressed in Provincetown.
10:27 pm edt 

90 Shank Painter

"Shankpainter looks like Brockton, not Provincetown.  And what happens
when the paint starts to peel and it falls into disrepair?  "



People will assume it is a a town owned building. Nothing more, just another
derelict town building.
10:25 pm edt 

Re: Majestic Pines

I like nature as much as the next guy/gal but majestic pines??? come on!  Would
you describe the trickle of a woodland stream as a great cataract in order to
bolster your argument?

The point is; if you want to be taken seriously state your position concisely
without using over the top hyperbole.  For instance, I feel that the natural
state of the Shank Painter parcel was preferable to the condos built there and
there is way too much development going on in town.

See, point made without claiming Bigfoot was spotted climbing the majestic Shank
Painter Pines in order to get a better view of the endangered Loch Ness monster
swimming toward the great cataract that feeds Shank Painter Pond.

By the way, I agree that Provincetown is getting close to the ragged edge of
being overdeveloped.  The fault lies not in the stars however but in ourselves. 
I know a couple homeowners (not developers) who bought single family homes then
chopped them into two or three condominiums for a profit.

I know some who sought and got variances to build units in their back yard for a
profit.  They weren't developers, just people who cared more about their own
bottom line than what they were doing to the neighborhood, street and town.
10:23 pm edt 

West Vine Clear Cutting

If you think the project at 90 Shankpainter looks bad go take a look
at the new condos at West Vine.  The lot was orginally over one acre of wooded
land that the state determined was home to some endangered species.  The owners
sub-divided the land into 6 lots and were required to put one aside to mitigate
the impact on the environment.  The wooded lot was a lot more attractive than
the new condos they are putting up.

It is too bad that the town cannot find it in the best interest of the public to
use CPA funds to buy up some of these large tracts of land and keep them in
their natural state.
10:21 pm edt 

And We Could Have Had Both: Condos and Tall Pines

but no. Greed over taste. Profit over treescape. Maximize the land for
developers and leave the residents in barren, flat, cleared land. No pines, no
oaks, no nature. but more money in the pockets of developers. and that is what
drives and determines our streescapes. Sharon should have said NO. We determine
the lay out and we determine how much of the land can be clear cut. We set the
priorities and either developers accept or reject our offer. but no. We put the
power in the hands of developers, like timid, poor children unable to hold their
own with adults.

We're better than the deals we make. I wish more deals were up to the standards
most of us find acceptable, insightful and attractive.
10:19 pm edt 

Re: Beaux Arts Ball

"Who the @*#$ cares who got some stupid photo from where for a party
that was LAST YEAR.
It's time to grow up and get over it.  Why not get a costume and go trick or

treating through town?  Your level of maturity seems compatible with that."


I have to say, this posting was really funny.  The event last year was, from
what I heard tastefully executed.  The rub was in how it had been explained to
the townspeople.  But I agree, it's over; those who made mistakes can learn from
them, and let's all move on.
4:08 pm edt 

90 Shank Painter - Clear Cutting

I would rather see scrub pines, scrub oaks, bushes, dune grass and
poison ivy littered with plastic bags than one more ugly condo put up under the
guise of helping the poor people who live in town and can't afford the rents. 
Brand new, Shankpainter looks like Brockton, not Provincetown.  And what happens
when the paint starts to peel and it falls into disrepair?  Is that when the
project is born.
12:34 pm edt 

Some Surely Lack an Appreciation For Nature

Some surely see pines, oaks, open land as something valueless. I don't. I see
the beauty of trees and they add much to our town. Take a look at millionaire
properties in this country and what will you see? Stark, open land? No, trees
and more trees.

It's the poor who live in flt lands clear cut by developers. that is 90
Shankpainter. it should not have been. I could be beautiful but it is not.
12:18 pm edt 

Trees vs Condos

The trees would grow back if there was even one square inch left for
them to grow.  However, once the woods are clear cut and the trees are gone then
condos are put up and there is no chance of getting the trees back.  I would
rather see trees than more condos.
12:14 pm edt 

Re: Beaux Arts Ball

The Town Manager got the old photo of a town hall ball of the past
FROM the historic commission!

Who the @*#$ cares who got some stupid photo from where for a party that was
LAST YEAR.
It's time to grow up and get over it.  Why not get a costume and go trick or
treating through town?  Your level of maturity seems compatible with that.
9:29 am edt 

Re: 90 Shank Painter

Keep em close to the police station.... thats what I say.

Half are on drugs, and the rest are sipping from the bottle."

Oh, like you're not.
Stereotyping all residents of affordable housing is the worst kind of bigotry. 
You should talk with Mitt Romney, who thinks that 47% of the people don't pay
taxes.

Your ugly underbelly is showing.

9:21 am edt 

Dear Majestic Pines Writer

Thank you, thank you, thank you.  Finally someone writes with intelligence and
humor.  Hopefully majestic pines will be brought in, planted and cared for by
the new owners of the property.  It will be a magical thing.
8:34 am edt 

Monday, September 17, 2012

90 Shank Painter

Keep em close to the police station.... thats what I say.

Half are on drugs, and the rest are sipping from the bottle.

It should be an interesting road to navigate

10:45 pm edt 

Re: Beaux Arts Ball

The Town Manager got the old photo of a town hall ball of the past
FROM the historic commission!
10:42 pm edt 

Re: Majestic Pines

Majestic pines!!!  What ever you are smoking, pass it around.  Ive been to the
Muir woods and Yosemite.  Now there are some majestic pines.  I guess majesty is
in the eye of the beholder.  Ill give you five dollars if you can find a
majestic pine anywhere on the lower cape.  That is majestic in terms of what
most sober and or sane people would define it.  The scrub pines along shank
painter might appear majestic to a hobbit, to me they are scraggly messes.
10:41 pm edt 

Re: Shank Painter and Waterfront Property

Dear blogger,

Requarding the clear cutting of shank painter, you need glasses
or a better memory. Yes, there were large oaks and pines on the
property,along with jack in the Pulpits!

If the property was littered ,as it was to a point, wasn't this
The towns fault?????? Or if any lot owned privately is
Littered, fine them!!!!! I can name numerous properties that
Should get fined.

I also agree with the blogger Reguarding our waterfront.
The houses are way to large,to bad it's gone that way.
10:39 pm edt 

Re: We Give up Our Legacy so Easily, It's Sickening

What is more sickening to me is that residents and town officials allowed the
waterfront views to be destroyed. What was once a beautiful viewscape of the
harbor along many places on commercial street from west end ot east end was
filled in by ugly condos, tacky hotels and monsterous houses. Much of this
happend in the 1970s-1990s. Many of those responsible for those are still here
and often bribes were paid to allow building where it wasn't allowed even by the
more lenient zoning of the day.

Trees grow back, those views never will. Looking at old photos and paintings of
the views that used to be makes me sick. Shame on those who allowed it to happen
or did it. We continue to allow many of those properties to rent their use of
state tidal lands for a minor chapter 91 payment or token, supposed "public
access."
12:15 pm edt 

90 Shank Painter

Majestic Pines on the 90 Shank painter lot! Are you crazy!!! That lot
was filled with plastic wind blown bags, trash and  the worst looking junky weed
trees in the world. I'm not a fan (actually I'm against affordable housing that
is given to able bodied single men and women)but to decry the loss of majestic
pines on that lot is to blatently lie!
12:11 pm edt 

Re: West Vine and Bradford

The one acre of land that is being clear cut to make way for new
condos at West Vine and Bradford did fall under the endangered species act.  The
developer was required to keep a small amount of land aside to mitigate the
damage.  But in the meanwhile an acre of wooded land will be clear cut to make
way for 16 market rate condos.
12:10 pm edt 

Cluttering the View

I think we should tear down anything that's cluttering the outside of
Town Hall; we tried to do with its trees.  That way, we can really see Town Hall
from every angle.  Isn't this what we want, to show how pretty Town Hall now
looks? So take everything down, tear it all up! It's time! All those sad
memorials are sooo yesterday!
12:08 pm edt 

Facing the Inevitable

It is pretty obvious that single family year-round homes are dinosaurs
here.  Condos and multiple units are the tickets to the prize.  Money is the
major player that determines what is built, where it is built and how much land
will be affected to build it.  Plain and simple.  This once unique, unblemished
3 mile town with unmatched natural beauty can't win against this powerful
machine.  Maybe not now, or in 5 years, but in the long run, the relentless
overbuilding and overdeveloping of Provincetown will have irreversible effects
on her natural environment and that is reprehensible.
12:06 pm edt 

Beaux Arts Ball

Where do you people come off with all your information?  Sharon got inspiration
from an old photo that was found during renovations.  Historical? 200 Tickets? 
Some tickets were held back by Marc Jacobs not by Sharon. He released them not
even keeping some for his staff SO back off on all the allegations.  Bottomline
was that there were not enough tickets /space for all of the towns people and
outside people to get in. I know for a fact that people from Nantucket and
Martha's Vineyard were IN LINE for tickets that got them!  So if they knew about
it and were IN LINE... where were you???  On this blog complaining... listing
"facts" that are inaccurate!  Nuf said.  All talk and no action gets you left
outside (in this case outside of town hall).
12:04 pm edt 

Saturday, September 15, 2012

Look at What the Town Did at 890 Shankpainter

those majestsic pines and all of them--each and every one of them--cut down to
offer a stark piece of real estate. Clear cut they surely did. so why are you
surprised at West Wine? If the town could allow developers to cut down trees on
town land--they are renting this land for $99 for 99 years--then anything goes
here. I wish a bit of Nantucket were here in valuing land, in having an
aesthetics that doesn't allow ugliness for a profit. This is becuase the've made
their monies and now want to live in surroundings that are more natural,
beautiful and filled with nature.

But here, we let it go. We give up our legacy so easily. It's sickening but that
is what we've sadly allowed.
6:23 pm edt 

AIDS Memorial

I believe in front of the new library is a better location for this memorial
than town hall.  I also like the idea of placement in the pine grove near the
dog park.  With all do respect, please don't junk up town hall with another
memorial....spread em out.  thank you.  ps. Thanks Art Commissioners for the
visioning thing.
6:21 pm edt 

Dumb Idea... Clear Cutting

When a private person sells a large wooded parcel in town, the
Buyer should be held to a town bylaw regulating the amount
Of trees,natural vegetation,that should remain. The current
Bylaw of 30 percent green space is to vague. I have seen developers
Claim window boxs are green space.

Trees and vegetation cut down on noise etc and add to the community.
We have all seen recently how the removal of ptowns natural
Surrounding effect our town, Bangs Street,Shank Painter and sand
dunes plowed into recently.

The object of these builders/ developers is to make as much
$$$$$ as possible, clear cutting is a more efficient way to build,
And they could care less about the surrounding area!

12:46 pm edt 

Thanks for the Halloween Update

Great to get this information. thanks for taking the time to send it. We will
have fun in town as we usually do for Halloween. But I really appreciate this
update. Very informative.
12:43 pm edt 

Re: Tree Warden

Unless there is an appointed tree warden the head of dpw acts as default tree
warden. The head of dpw here has delegated that task to Barbara Rushmore, or at
least he did. The tree warden, or his delegate, only has authority where the
actual trunk of tree intersects with public property. The tree warden has zero
jurisdiction over trees completely on private property even if the tree branches
overhang a public way.

The term "clear cutting" is thrown about on here whenever certain folks want to
try to create a big deal over removal of trees or attack government officials.
Trees grow back over time but likely the same folks who throw around
misinformation are too old to live to see trees grow back so anytime a tree is
touched they act as if a huge environmental crime has been committed. In some
cases other government bodies may have some jurisdiction if the land in question
has endangered species habitat.

Speaking of vegetation, when is DPW going to make the property owners at      
and            trim down their hedge to the required 3ft height.? This is a
hazardous intersection as those coming down commercial cannot see those coming
down west vine and vice versa. It is also a very busy intersection with cars,
bikes and pedestrians.
12:42 pm edt 

Halloween

To all the naysayers and complainers Here is what is going on this Halloween:

David Flowers events at the Aquarium Mall, done by private business person who
produces a great event with VSB grant monies and his own i am sure!!

Crown & Anchor and the NE Ursamen: Spooky Bear Weekend with many events, Rocky
Horror picture show FREE, Saints Sinners Party on Friday ONLY $5, Costume Ball
on Saturday with prizes, afternoon events as well, Sing along with Bobby
Wetherbee. PRIVATE business helping tourism for Halloween with no grants or
tourism monies or PBG.

A-House: Dance parties all weekend Private business giving another option for
Halloween events.

Porch Bar: Always is open on Halloween weekend with sing alongs FREE another
private business with events.

Ric Conley and the Watership: Great "streetscape" event that has been produced
by PRIVATE year round citizen for a fun event during Halloweeen

There are options folks so it is not the end of the world out there!! I am sure
there are 5 or 6 of us year round folks who could throw a great Party at Town
Hall but we have never been asked PERIOD!!!
10:40 am edt 

Tree Warden

According to MGL(Mass. Genr'l Laws) Towns in this Commonwealth must
have a Tree Warden and always did for years. The tree warden was paid a small
annual stipend to trim trees on Town property that overhung or obstructed public
ways.They could cut/trim private property trees/brush if they obstructed a
public way.Somewhere in recent years the DPW assumed the responsibility of Tree
Warden. Don't know why!
10:00 am edt 

Re: Selectmens' Decision

"Bravo to the Selectmen for denying the Aids Memorial in the Town Hall
Lawn..... We could say a memorial is needed here because the schools,which
indicated that children that make up a community will become nonexistent here.
That's a more sad state of affairs for this Town to lose that identity when it
was teeming...."



I am not sure how what this poster is trying to say, but the Selectmen revoked
the memorial permit because memorials are downers and they want only happy
thoughts when we look at town hall.

The selectmen seem to think that putting an aids memorial in the center of town
will dampen the spirits our many tourists.
9:58 am edt 

Re: Times Have Changed

Who is Selectman "Silva" now on the Board of Selectmen"? The blogger
may mean "Santos". How to irritate a "Portugee"in one easy mistake! Get it
straight if you're going to be a faultfinder!
9:55 am edt 

Friday, September 14, 2012

Re: West Vine Street Clear-Cutting

Land in question near Galeforce was owned by Fratus family and land in
the neighboring hollow is owned by the Fiset family both private owners. No one
can dictate private owners to build affordable condos  in the ist place and 2nd
there's a big difference between affordable housing (which isn't for some) and
low income housing which is more conducive to the needs of the working class
here.
11:00 pm edt 

Selectmens Decision

Bravo to the Selectmen for denying the Aids Memorial in the Town Hall
Lawn.They used professional principle in that decision.  Those who remember the
beginning scourge of the disease will never forget. It's not over yet but
perhaps better controlled now that the info is out there. We could say a
memorial is needed here because the schools,which indicated that children that
make up a community will become nonexistent here. That's a more sad state of
affairs for this Town to lose that identity when it was teeming with many
children that garnered so many awards for this Town for over a century.
10:57 pm edt 

Planning This Year's Beaux Arts Ball

I missed the Beaux Arts Ball last year due to a trip to San Francisco.
I would love to be involved with helping organize one. I hope that the negative
energy I see posted here can be channeled into a positive work effort to make
this happen.  How about we all meet on Sunday morning at 11AM on the steps of
Town Hall to organize?
10:54 pm edt 

Ah, How Truth Is Revealed

Yes, there were more tickets thrown out to the street. Because so many town
people were upset. then, the town--call it SharonLynn or otherwise--threw otu to
the masses a hundred or two hundred more tickets.Why? becuase the uproar was
olad. The upsetness of the town deep and serious.

So, more tickets were made avaialbe for some. But--muy dear friends, it was
too late. Too much damage had been done. Too many people were upset. too many
had had it with the town.

And that remains today.
10:52 pm edt 

You Know As Well As I Do

That Sharon Lynn had 200 or more tickets. You know that quite well. and you also
know that the 100 or me tickets thrown in after the upset were there for those
few who know someone to have these tickets. It is quite intricate this game of 
politics and power. You know this as well as I do! Why play as if you are so
innocent!
10:49 pm edt 

Re: Clear Cutting

Have you lost your mind? It's private property. What would the reason be for
regulating tree cutting? And does it stop at tree cutting or should it include
brush removal too? How about how much lawn a person can have? What about what
kind of trees one can plant or maybe the types of vegetables in your garden?
Certain colors of stone for walls or stone in your driveway? Maybe the town
should regulate the colors you can use to paint your home or better yet, if you
get to paint it at all as opposed to letting it weather to the right Cape Cod
grey color. And how would you define clear cutting? One by one over the course
of a month gets the same effect as all in one day. Who decides what's dangerous,
what's healthy and what's ugly? And when the healthy tree falls over onto my
home, who do I call to complain to after I wanted to remove the tree in the
first place but the town wouldn't let me? Answer me these for now and I'll come
up with more.

really dumb idea.
10:48 pm edt 

Moving Forward

No need to rehash the past and the ticket chaos. Let's focus on developing
Halloween as major weekend for tourism. Even if Town Hall won't help without the
glitz, maybe PBG or CofC can do something?

10:45 pm edt 

Times Have Changed

Time to sell-off the high school building, close the grammer school
and send the remaining kids off to other town's schools. 3.5 million dollars a
year to maintain a bloated school system. Times have changed. Close the schools
and sve me some of my hard earned property tax dollars.

Oh and by the way, the selectman, Silva, wants to send a message to the Federal
Government protesting some "liberal" judges decesion, gives long self-absorbed
speaches about Provincetown History when reviewing a request for a waterfront
bar-the guy is usesless.
10:43 pm edt 

Re: Beaux Arts Ball

I was in line at Town Hall, and waited with everyone else, and bought our
ticket/donation. Those of us who were in line did a head count, and all of the
tickets were sold to the people in line. Ask anyone who bothered to get up out
of bed to get  tickets.

I think it was an amazing party.
Thanks to the sponsors...
and all the fabulous  costumed people...

I hope it happens again.
10:38 pm edt 

Re: Beaux Arts Ball

"The town manager stole the idea that the Historic Commission came up
with, and that was to have a grand reopening party to celebrate the renovated
town hall and to thank the tax payers. She even promised that the affair would
be open to all towns people, even those who could not afford the donation that
would be asked to cover the cost of the ball. Somehow all of that changed when
she gave the planning of the ball to Robert Duffy. Not even the historic
commission got an invitation to the celebration ball that they started. I feel
the town manager still owes the towns people that party at town hall!"


Things change.  If the Historic Commission wanted a party they should have taken
the initiative.  Simply expressing an idea does not mean that the person who
implements the idea is "stealing" it.

And boo hoo.  There was a party and you didn't get to go.
It was one night a whole year ago.  Get past it and find something new to
complain about.  I bet you won't have to work too hard for that.
10:36 pm edt 

Halloween Hometown Party

So it's probably too late to an for this year for a Halloween party at
town hall. Don't know why the tourism, chamber or ping wouldn't have taken up
that task.....but let's plan for next year and make it what it was first billed
as last year- a hometown party for Halloween. Let's hear some ideas!
10:33 pm edt 

Re: Clear Cutting

Is there a town dept that reviews or should review the
Clear cutting of trees on properties???? If not,there should be.
Would it be conservation,.. Building dept???



See the side link of this blog.  Don't waste your time.
10:30 pm edt 

Get Out of My Back Yard!

Regarding clear cutting on private property. Ten years ago a very odd
person on the con com complained that I cut down a dead tree on my land because
it was dead and ready to fall and hurt something or someone,maybe a child. To
her it was important to have the dead tree stay dispite any danger because it
was a nesting place for insects. This is just callous and stupid. Private
property is private and if you own property your trees were undoubtedly cut down
to build your home. Get out of my back yard.
10:25 pm edt 

Thursday, September 13, 2012

Re: Beaux Arts Ball

"Most of the tickets for the Beaux Arts or Faux Arts Celebration were
in other
people's hands. Sharon Lynn had 200, and hundred and hundred of tickets were in
Marc Jabos's hands. there were few tickets actually available and many of those
were "promised" to town hall employees.


Standing in line was a pretense for what could not be had. It was a manufactured
image of availability when only a few who did stand for hours received so
little. Send out 100 tickets to the "masses." Make them feel that they too could
go!

A sad joke on this town. It was simply a privileged event for the privilege
few."


How do you know Sharon Lynn had 200 tickets?  I sincerely doubt that she told
you, or anyone else, because it wasn't true.  Hundreds were sold on Saturday at
Marc Jacobs.  Hundreds more were sold Monday at Town Hall.  An extra 200 were
put on sale to stop whiners like yourself (although that obviously didn't work).
Your jealousy about the imaginary 'privileged few' is pathetic and really
unattractive.  Don't you have self-respect?

10:19 am edt 

Clear Cutting

Is there a town dept that reviews or should review the
Clear cutting of trees on properties???? If not,there should be.
Would it be conservation,.. Building dept???
Please inform......
10:04 am edt 

Re: West Vine Street Clear-Cutting

"I would assume some affordable housing condo's would need to be
included ?"


Because:

The developer bought the three lots several years ago.  There will be three
distinct condominium associations for each lot with three units per association. 
Too few a number to have "affordable" kick in.  You need five or more for that.
10:02 am edt 

Wednesday, September 12, 2012

To be or Not to be?

I can't believe people are still complaining about last year's
Halloween Ball. Was it that important to you? Do you feel like you missed out on
something so important that you are going to complain about it for the rest of
your life? Move on already.

It seems nobody has been able to answer the original question: Is there going to
be another Halloween Ball this year?

I guess not.
11:01 pm edt 

Town Hall Grand Reopening

The town manager stole the idea that the Historic Commission came up
with, and that was to have a grand reopening party to celebrate the renovated
town hall and to thank the tax payers. She even promised that the affair would
be open to all towns people, even those who could not afford the donation that
would be asked to cover the cost of the ball. Somehow all of that changed when
she gave the planning of the ball to Robert Duffy. Not even the historic
commission got an invitation to the celebration ball that they started. I feel
the town manager still owes the towns people that party at town hall!
10:59 pm edt 

Facts on Masquerade Ball

"It was never for those who paid the
taxes for town hall renovation"


1.  Everybody that made an effort to stand in line received tickets.  Not one
person that stood in line was denied tickets.   The only people that did not
receive tickets were the ones that did not make an effort to stand in line, but
rather came to Town Hall to buy tickets after the people that waited in line had
already been processed.

2.  The vast majority of property owners (70%) that pay taxes to renovate Town
Hall or for any other purpose are second home owners, and therefore do not live
in town.  To be blunt, the vast majority of "townies" did not pay taxes to
renovate Town Hall because they don't pay taxes to the town.

3.  I personally don't believe Town employees should be producing the Masquerade
Ball.  Anyone can volunteer to put on the Costume Ball again, but unfortunately
nobody is stepping forward.

10:57 pm edt 

Re: West Vine Street Clear-Cutting

"I would assume
some affordable housing condo's would need to be
included ?"


Why would you assume that?
9:02 pm edt 

Re: Beaux Arts Ball

Oh, PLeaze!! "Stood in Line to buy Tickets?"

Most of the tickets for the Beaux Arts or Faux Arts Celebration were in other
people's hands. Sharon Lynn had 200, and hundred and hundred of tickets were in
Marc Jabos's hands. there were few tickets actually available and many of those
were "promised" to town hall employees.


Standing in line was a pretense for what could not be had. It was a manufactured
image of availability when only a few who did stand for hours received so
little. Send out 100 tickets to the "masses." Make them feel that they too could
go!

A sad joke on this town. It was simply a privileged event for the privilege few.
8:48 pm edt 

Masquerade Ball

It's not whining: It's the Reality of  a Private Party for Elist in town.

Call it for what it was. It was never for the town or for those who paid the
taxes for town hall renovation. It should have been promoted as a private Marc
Jacob's party. Then--no problem. But--and this is the but--it was presented as a
town party honoring the new town hall.

Ha! Ha! and it was not funny!

The true masquerade was what this really was. a masquerade of a private, select
party as an open, town-wide celebration.  That was the true Masquerade Ball!
8:44 pm edt 

Re: Beaux Arts Ball

Re: "Whoa, whoa, there. I don't think anybody suggested Town Hall (or
anybody else)cough up $100,000 for a Halloween party. That is a bit excessive by almost
anyone's standards. But back in the day Provincetown somehow managed to throw an
annual Halloween Ball without the "generosity" of Marc Jacobs and I'm sure we
could do it again. It needn't be catered by Victor's or have an open bar or
entertainment by Debbie Harry or decor by Brian Rafanelli. We are a small town
full of creative people. Surely we can find a local band or dj and put up some
festive decorations and encourage people to come in costume dance and have fun.
Townies and tourists alike would love it if this became an annual event once again."


Then do it.
8:35 pm edt 

Give Credit Where it is Due

If the Town Manager or staff at Town Hall was smart enough to get
someone to donate 100,000 for a party that was open to the town, good for them! 
I think whoever accomplished that deserves a few tickets.

What have you done for the town lately?  Or ever?
8:32 pm edt 

Re: Beaux Arts Ball

"Seems like town Hall is responding directly to the Beaux Arts Disaster. the
tickets were held back and reserved for the reserved. Only after so many
complaints, were 200 extra tickets allowed to be sold. It was a private party
pretending to be a public party. Or, given how wrong the town was, a public
party that became a private party even as it presented the event as a town-wide
celebration.

And how many tickets did Sharon have for her friends? Plenty. and certain people
at town hall were guaranteed tickets while for the rest--too bad. Let them eat cake--
was the tenet and the theme. And they were upset that some of us wanted more
than crumbs thrown from a Marc Jacobs silver plate!"


I don't understand your problem or your complaints.  There was a party; people
in town were able to attend; someone else footed the bill.  What's the problem?
Marc Jacobs threw a party for his friends, coughed up $100K, and let locals
come.  Sure, there weren't enough tickets for everyone, because TH doesn't have
the capacity.  So what? 

There's plenty to do here in town on Halloween.As for your continued slurs against
the town manager-- do you know for a fact that she held back 'plenty' of tickets for
her friends and that 'certain people at town hall' were guaranteed tickets?  No, you don't. 
You just like to sling mud.  Your bitterness is exhausting.

If you want a halloween party so bad, rent town hall yourself and throw one. 
Then you can invite everyone you want and keep all the people from town hall
out.  Wouldn't that make you happy?
Or will anything make you happy?
8:31 pm edt 

Swim For Life

Does anyone have the final tally of funds raised Saturday?

SUPPORT "AFTERGLOW!"
8:26 pm edt 

Re: Beaux Arts Ball

The topic was introduced because people are hoping it happens again this year,
but of course many took it as a cue to continue their rants about being excluded
last year. News flash: your complaining is about a year too late. Stop crying
about being left out last year and help organize a more inclusive party this
year. Make it happen!
8:23 pm edt 

West Vine Street Clear-Cutting

Anybody know who is buying or bought the property ?

I would assume some affordable housing condo's would need to be included ?
8:22 pm edt 

Wednesday, September 12, 2012

Beaux Arts Ball

Stop your whining!  The people that were meant to be there were... that is,,,
the people that got in line instead of crying "poor, pitiful me" on this tired
blog.  As usual, poor facts and no action equals no play at fun events.
12:01 am edt 

re: Town Hall Memorials

Enough with memorials on town halls lawn! It is starting to look like
a cemetary.
9:36 pm edt 

Ooh! Oh! Ah! - Halloween Ball

Seems like town Hall is responding directly to the Beaux Arts Disaster. the
tickets were held back and reserved for the reserved. Only after so many
complaints, were 200 extra tickets allowed to be sold. It was a private party
pretending to be a public party. Or, given how wrong the town was, a public
party that became a private party even as it presented the event as a town-wide
celebration.

And how many tickets did Sharon have for her friends? Plenty. and certain people
at town hall were guaranteed tickets while for the rest--too bad.

Let them eat cake--was the tenet and the theme. And they were upset that some of
us wanted more than crumbs thrown from a Marc Jacobs silver plate!
9:12 pm edt 

Re: Halloween Ball

Re: "Last year Marc Jacobs Intl. spent $100,000 on that fabulous party.
Why would they spend another $100,000 when people were so ungrateful and bitter
about last year's event? ...And why would you expect Town Hall to pay for an
event when you begrudge every dollar that is spent by the town, even for a
much-needed lawn mower?"



Whoa, whoa, there. I don't think anybody suggested Town Hall (or anybody else)
cough up $100,000 for a Halloween party. That is a bit excessive by almost
anyone's standards. But back in the day Provincetown somehow managed to throw an
annual Halloween Ball without the "generosity" of Marc Jacobs and I'm sure we
could do it again. It needn't be catered by Victor's or have an open bar or
entertainment by Debbie Harry or decor by Brian Rafanelli. We are a small town
full of creative people. Surely we can find a local band or dj and put up some
festive decorations and encourage people to come in costume dance and have fun.
Townies and tourists alike would love it if this became an annual event once
again.
9:09 pm edt 

Re: AIDS Memorial

This has been discussed in here before and with the selectmen prior also. Where
does the town stop on memorials? If the AIDS memorial passes, shouldn't a 9/11
memorial also pass? How about a Martin Luther King Jr. memorial for all of those
that have been oppressed? Holocaust memorial? Are you saying an AIDS memorial is
appropriate because of the link to gay men? I thought that was a steryotype that
was trying to be eliminated? I agree with the selectmen on this one.
9:06 pm edt 

AIDS Memorial

I heard the Selectmen voted to deny permission to build the AIDS memorial on the
grounds of Town Hall. Surprised to see McChesney vote against an AIDS memorial.
Provincetown needs to remember. Ironic it was on September 11th Anderson and
McChesney voted down the memorial. A sad day for Provincetown.
8:48 pm edt 

Re: Halloween Ball

Last year Marc Jacobs Intl. spent $100,000 on that fabulous party.  That enabled
the attendees to get a first-class event for a $25 ticket.
Contrary to the opinions of the negative people on this blog, MJI held back
about 200 tickets, leaving more than 800 for the public. In a town of 3,000, 800
tickets for the public is a good percentage; there's no reason to complain if
you weren't quick enough to get one.
Why would they spend another $100,000 when people were so ungrateful and bitter
about last year's event?

And why would you expect Town Hall to pay for an event when you begrudge every
dollar that is spent by the town, even for a much-needed lawn mower?
You speak out of both sides of your mouth- you want everything for free, but you
don't want government to pay for it.  and if a private donor steps in, you trash
them until they develop a hatred of this petty town.
8:45 pm edt 

Re: Halloween Ball

"I do think though, that Provncetown is more than capable of throwing
our own Halloween Ball at town hall with or without corporate sponsorship. It
was a great success last year and is an excellent way to drum up a bit of
tourism (especially with Halloween falling mid-week - a little incentive might
be a good thing."


Developing Halloween as a tourist weekend is a great idea. It would extend the
shoulder season from mid to late October.

And Halloween is growing every year among adults. from CNBC "More Americans than
ever plan to celebrate Halloween this year, boosting expected spending on the
holiday up 9 percent to $6.86 billion."

Hopefully Town Hall can get past it's love of bling and put on a more modest
ball, supported by ticket sales and beverage sales.
10:11 am edt 

Monday, September 10, 2012

Re: Halloween Ball

Re: "I heard that the prior sponsor is so hurt over the negativity
encountered here and the griping about elitism that he has given up sponsoring
and hence there will be no ball."


Whether this is true or not, I don't know. However, I seem to remember the
"prior sponsor" saying last year that despite the controversy surrounding the
ball, he hasn't "given up on this town." I guess maybe he has? Also, as someone
pointed out on this blog last year, the corporation in question throws a lavish
Halloween Ball each year in a different location, so there was probably never
any intention of them sponsoring it a second time. I do think though, that
Provncetown is more than capable of throwing our own Halloween Ball at town hall
with or without corporate sponsorship. It was a great success last year and is
an excellent way to drum up a bit of tourism (especially with Halloween falling
mid-week - a little incentive might be a good thing.) Everyone I know who
attended last year loved it. Let's hope it happens again!
10:53 pm edt 

West Vine Street Clear-Cutting

More clear-cutting of wooded land to make way for ugly new condos. 
See the lot on West Vine Street on the other side of Bradford.  I understand
that the clear-cutting will continue right up to the corner and there will be 10
more new units in addition to the 6 ones already put up.
10:51 pm edt 

Halloween Ball

Further research about the Marc Jacobs halloween ball should show you that he
moves location every year for his halloween party. too bad last year the "stars
in our eyes" management of this town sold it as if it was for the town instead
of his annual party when thats all it was and some wannabes from town were
allowed to by tickets.....hope you all felt like you were one of his "friends"
10:49 pm edt 

Why no Arrest???

Guy drives into the woods, not driving his own car, flees the scene before the
police show up. The police know who the driver is and yet nothing in the papers
regarding a drunk driving arrest or any arrest at all yet the person who owns
the car is taking the rap and has no car?

Guess it pays to know people as opposed to the police doing their jobs fair and
square. What's that rule, equal protection under the law?

Really?
10:46 pm edt 

Re: Halloween Ball

It's fine with me that there's no Beaux Arts Celebration this year.

It was to celebrate the opening of town hall but it was carried out so poorly.
it turned out to be an elist event and left most town tax payers out and out on
the street. sure, celebrate inside for insiders but for most--abandoned in this
celebration.

Good. Let Halloween be what Halloween is here--a great, fun, fantastic
time--without the Beaux Arts Dance-A-thon.

Tey surely know PR and they blew it! It was a PR disaster, a PR problem instead
of being a full-blowm celebration.
10:43 pm edt 

Re: Weather Forcast

"Just click on the Weather Picture to Get Today's and this Week's
forecast"


It's just the fixed picture and not today's weather. click away and you'll get
so much information. It's terrific. If you sail, you'll love knowing wind speed
and direction. If you're planning an event, you can get a five day or a ten day
forecast. Just delicious!
12:36 pm edt 

Re: Halloween Ball

I heard that the prior sponsor is so hurt over the negativity encountered here
and the griping about elitism that he has given up sponsoring and hence there
will be no ball. Another good thing destroyed by bitter             .
12:33 pm edt 

Re: Emergency Hurricane Shelter

Re: "What is this in reply to or pertain to?"


The post immediately below the one you questioned what is it pertaining to.
12:31 pm edt 

Re: Weather Forcast

"The weather forcast on here is never right. is there something wrong
with it?"


That is because its from weather.com which considers Falmouth forecasts to be
appropriate cape wide. weather underground is far more accurate. weather.com is
the enemy of commerce with their frequent inaccuracies leaning toward weekend
weather  drama.
12:29 pm edt 

Re: Emergency Shelter

"It should be under ground at the new public safety building and include
a section for evacuees and their pets.  Plan ahead for once people !"



We already have a shelter at VMES it's fully FEMA rated and partly paid by a
FEMA grant. Spending was approved at the last Town Meeting.
9:19 am edt 

Fine Arts Work Center Campus

I'm not sure what the plan is for the high school but I wish it would
be a good place for a FAWC campus. Maybe in connection with the degree program
they are part of? Anyone know if this has been suggested? Lease it to mass art?
9:17 am edt 

Re: Weather Forcast

Here's My favorite: I Love Knowing the Wind for the Next five Days

It's perfect. Sun or no sun. Wind. Wave heights,. What could be better. I'm
thrilled to have this. Thanks and thanks again.
9:15 am edt 

Weather Forcast Issue

The weather forcast on here is never right. is there something wrong
with it?
9:14 am edt 

Halloween Ball?

Has anybody heard if there is to be a Halloween Ball at Town Hall
again this year?
9:10 am edt 

Re: Emergency Hurricane Shelter

"I disagree with creating a whole new shelter underground"


???????????
What is this in reply to or pertain to?
9:08 am edt 

Sunday, September 9, 2012

Swim for Life

Here's to Swim for Life! Here's to all Who Participated

and to all who support this wonderful community event.

It's great and you're great to be involved.

Bravo to all!
1:19 pm edt 

Re: Shelter

I disagree with creating a whole new shelter underground. None of the locations
currently contemplated for a new public safety building are outside the
evacuation areas for a worst case hurricane scenario as defined by FEMA (eg, cat
4 with forward motion greater than about 20 mph). Putting things underground
raises costs a lot as then you also have to deal with keeping the water table
out and that problem is even worse in a hurricane scenario. The Feds are
encouraging all new public buildings to take into account the substantial chance
of long range sea water level rise. Finally, given the mandated features and
costs of just the basics for the new public safety facility adding this new role
would just be untenable to voters from a cost perspective. All told our current
facility seems a good one.
11:50 am edt 

Hurricane Shelter

It should be under ground at the new public safety building and include a
section for evacuees and their pets.  Plan ahead for once people !
11:22 am edt 

Saturday, September 8, 2012

Thanks for the Weather and Wind Information

I just love that new addition to this blog. so good to see the day's weather and
then even more to see what the five day and then ten day forecast is. This is
just perfect. It is the type of information that I want and need. And here it is
on this blog. Wow. Just great.
7:54 am edt 

Re: Crystal Balling - High School

The town dropped the ball and missed their chance to rearrange the town
properties when they had the chance. During renovations, the current town hall
should have been reconstructed as an event venue and the town offices should
have been relocated up to the school now that it will be closing. There is ample
parking for emnployees and those looking to do business with the various town
offices. The elementary school should have been revamped for the offices that
are currently there and and included the employees in the Gouviea building. The
students should go to either Truro or high school kids to Nauset. Get rid of the
Gouviea building, it has no parking and is a wreck and get rid of the community
center for the same reasons. Problems solved `
7:52 am edt 

Great to See Larry Meads Honored

How wonderful to honor this fine man and give him the
Santos Award. He is such a sweet and humble man and this award is so great.

Kudos to Larry Meads! Here's to you!
7:50 am edt 

Blast From the Past

"Where were all the wise pseudo intellectuals and financial wizards
that allowed Keith Bergman to be Town Manager for 17 years while he continued to
play games with the budgets?"



back to Bergman as the villain. bergman-monster a blast from the past.
7:47 am edt 

Friday, September 7, 2012

Suffering the Consequences

Where were all the wise pseudo intellectuals and financial wizards
that allowed Keith Bergman to be Town Manager for 17 years while he
continued to play games with the budgets?

Whenver the local "village idiots" tried to inform voters at Town Meeting,either
the question was moved before facts were presented or in one case while
standing at the microphone,a voter to my left tugged at my shirt and said "sit
down ,you don't know what you're talking about",to which I replied,"quite the
contrary, you're the one who doesn't know but you'll find out"!

It took 17 years and much damage later to learn the lesson! I don't have
much patience with that kind of stupidity.We got what we deserved, but
unfortunately for some who knew long before,we all had to suffer the
consequences!
5:00 pm edt 

Crystal Balling

Selling town owned properties may very well be a shortsighted cost
saving strategy.  Who knows what our future needs will be?  Will the costs of
acquiring new properties to accommodate unforeseen future needs be more than
what we we will gain from liquidating what we currently own.

WIll the person with the crystal ball please weigh in?
2:30 pm edt 

Larry Meads
 
Congratulations to Larry Meads on Being Honored with the Flyer Santos Award

A man who well deserved this award and a thanks from the community for his
contribution to the marine life of Provincetown and to many years of working on
so many boats.
He is dedicated to Provincetown and the town gave him a heart felt thank you.

Congratulations Larry!
10:16 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Art Commission

Read the Massachusetts General Laws.

Art Commissions are autonomous. The rule not only on town owned art works but on
paint colors inside and out of town buildings and other aesthetic decisions such
as,plaques,marquettes,statuary and other like objects both inside and out of
town properties. They also determine insurance appraisals for same. The chairman
of the Art Commission cannot act independently without a vote of the entire
commission to move any pieces or objects around from building to building or
place to place,nor can anything be loaned w/o vote of all commission members.
All votes must be recorded in thier minutes to be filed with the Town Clerk.
9:20 am edt 

A Proposal to Protect Our Heritage

Since a recent hot topic here seems to be selling the High School, and
since the obvious and inevitable reality is developers are going to want to turn
it into yet more condos, here's an idea:

Is there any possibility of designating a certain percentage of those condos as
affordable living or working spaces for artists? It would be a great incentive
to keep artists here in a once supportive community that is unfortunately
rapidly pricing them out these days. I know this has been tried before, but as
is frequently the case in Provincetown, rules were bent, loopholes were found,
etc. Lot's of artists now retain the lease to their affordable apartments or
studios and simply sublet, many times at a profit, while no longer actually
living in or utilizing the space designated for a working artist. There are so
few resources for artists in Provincetown and I feel the arts, being an
important part of our heritage, is something we should nurture and encourage.
Instead we just keep making things harder for artists. We should be providing
incentives for them to live and work here.

Somebody should look into this. If these real estate people are going to develop
every square inch of this town, can't we at least try to ensure that some of
their work benefits the community, not just their own bank accounts?

9:18 am edt 

Re: Selling the High School

To the developers and real estate people who salivate over purchasing
the high school as prime property with all that parking to develop,get over it!
Unless you're going to fix it to be used as a public school, it can't be sold.
That's why kids from the middle school were moved there.That's the stipulation
with all the schools here including the former Governor Bradford School,(now the
community center)Unfortunately for some there's always someone who lives to tell
the truth!!
8:57 am edt 

Our Future?

From a New York Times article about bankruptcy of Central Falls, RI:

"....Central Falls is Rhode Islands densest city, with nearly 19,400 people
squeezed into 1.2 square miles. It is a poor city, too, with a median income of
just $34,389 per year, according to the Census Bureau.
But the city promised pensions commensurate with those offered in much
wealthier communities and by last year found itself with a structural budget
deficit of about $6 million, and with no way to pay the roughly $80 million it
owed in pension and health insurance benefits to more than 200 police officers
and firefighters. The city went into receivership in 2010 and declared
bankruptcy on Aug. 1, 2011...."
8:18 am edt 

It's Not Venom: It's the Truth - Stephen Borkowski

We get it.  Unfortunately "conflicts of interest" are par for the
course in this town.  The sooner you accept that, the better you will sleep
almost through the night, my dear.
8:16 am edt 

Re: High School

Hey, thanks, seriously my first useful corrected fact from reading this thing
for years. Ok, sell the HS. Underground parking idea sounds great. Rotating
restaurant not so much :)
8:15 am edt 

Thursday, September 6, 2012

Happy Regatta All and Happy Swim for Life

Two fabulous events. Good luck and much fun to everyone involved. Here is our
community at its best!
6:21 pm edt 

It's Not Venom: It's the Truth - Stephen Borkowski


Borkowski was involved in a conflict of interest and took actions that he should
not have done. He may run the Art Commission but his conflict when he was an
alterante on the historic district commission and voted to allow Prager, the
owner of the Hawthorne Barn, to demolition a section of the building. He was his
personal advisor and he should have recused himself--not provide a defense of
this action. Also, Borkowski was also on the historical commission and he
advocated on this board for the support of the $75,000 to be given to Prager for
the Hawthorne Barn renovation. He stood up at town meeting and advocated again
for the $75,000 when he was Prager's personal advisor. All this should have been
disclosed and Borkowski should not have voted on this historic district case.
6:14 pm edt 

Re: Selling the High School

"Just a reminder, the high school is the only building owned by town
government that is large enough, strong enough, high enough and certified to
serve as a disaster shelter and refuge in case of a very strong hurricane or
other natural disaster. I think we should keep it."



Right idea, wrong building. In April we approved some $300,000 to make the VMES
a hurricane shelter with appropriate storm protections. The High School was
actually a poor choice given its large windows and exposed location.
6:06 pm edt 

Re: My Personal View

"I find it interesting that any time someone speaks up in defense of
town management, town staff, BOS, or anything positive, they're trivialized by
the label 'fanboys.'"



Ummmm. Not really. The post that got the fanboy reply was an attack on the
record of Avellar, Steele, Coture and Walker it wasn't a defense it was offense
(offensive because two of the named people have never been selectmen, only
voters)

So your shrill fanboy fury aside, and despite your rant about  hate-mongering,
so please next time aim before firing?
6:03 pm edt 

Re: Selling the High School

Just what the doctor ordered, more much needed development.  Hopefully
it could be slapped up quick before the next rental season.  If the dune ends up
getting bulldozed and clearcutting takes place to the surrounding woods, oops,
just revise the plans or better yet don't even bother, just jam them all in. 
While at it, why not excavate under the HS and put in a 4 level concrete
underground parking garage and then turn the building into a conglomeration of
affordable housing units with penthouse suites on the top level and a restaurant
that spins on the roof.
6:01 pm edt 

My Personal View

I find it interesting that any time someone speaks up in defense of
town management, town staff, BOS, or anything positive, they're trivialized by
the label 'fanboys.'

What should we call the vocal majority whose main interest is in trashing
everything about this town, complaining incessantly about how unfairly they're
treated, and managing to NEVER come up with a thoughtful, realistic solution to
the imagined problems?  Hatemongers, perhaps?

And no, hatemongers is no more derogatory than fanboys, so please don't censor.
                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                 
12:37 pm edt 

Fireman's Association?

Does anyone know why the Fireman's Association is not a registered non-profit. I
don't question their credibility or cause but have tried to donate through a
fund that can only donate to registered non-profits and they aren't as far as I
can tell. Any info appreciated.

12:29 pm edt 

Re: Selling the High School

Just a reminder, the high school is the only building owned by town government
that is large enough, strong enough, high enough and certified to serve as a
disaster shelter and refuge in case of a very strong hurricane or other natural
disaster. I think we should keep it.

- not a town employee, etc.
12:28 pm edt 

Re: Stephen Borkowski - Art Commission

No, you're not "just asking."  You are spewing venomous innuendo.  Because
anyone with half a brain could surely google "Provincetown Art Commission" and
find out most everything they need to know.  Hint, it's on the Town's website. 
And surely, someone with half the brain necessary to post venomous innuendo
could approach the selectmen with concerns.  Pathetically transparent.

"The Provincetown Art Commission

In 1959 the Board of Selectmen created the Provincetown Art Commission and
charged it with the responsibility for cataloging, appraising, restoring and
maintaining the many works of art owned by the Town of Provincetown. The
Commission meets regularly at Town Hall to develop policies for the care and
management of the collection. They set priorities, review new gifts of art to
the collection, and determine how best to care for, store and display it.

The Art Commission has developed a catalog of all works in the collection, has
visually and digitally photographed the works, and set up a web site at
www.provincetownhistoryproject.com. "

Disingenuous postings designed merely to malign are why this blog fails.  If the 
goal of this blog is to promote better town management, it is an epic fail as
the kids used to say.
10:18 am edt 

Building Committee

"Having a building committee for the DPW/Police is only a part of the
solution and should be part of the bigger picture. ."



It's not really a building committee. It's only purpose is to create
justification for and then sell the big police station
9:45 am edt 

Comparisons Past and Future
 
"If nothing is getting done that means we are already back to the days
of Avellar, Andrews, Couture, et. al.  Of course the definition back then meant
they did nothing......"


Oh the fanboys are getting a bit defensive?
9:42 am edt 

Stephen Borkowski

Stephen Borkowski holds a very privileged position.  He is the Chair
of the town Art Commission. I don't know if there are any other members of this
commission...Borkowski seems to with alone.

He holds the entire Town Art collection...a vast important collection.
He is the sole decision maker on what is hung on the walls of Town Hall (THAT
WAS NO JOKE ABOUT GRASSIE AND THE CLOCK!).

They tell me at the Library that they can't even hang a poster in the kids room.
He is also the person who arranges to lend art taken right off the walls and
lend it to a prep school someplace. Does any money come to the town from his
frequent "lending?

He seems to fly under the radar. I wonder why?
Seems like a lot of power and privilege for one man.
Just asking...
8:36 am edt 

Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Re: Blame

Re: "Sorry, but the Only Issue Isn't fixing our Buildings"

Especailly those we don't really need anymore. Can someone tell me the logic to
have shifted the elementary students from the elelmentary school to the high
school--especially when the high school and its days were numbered. Why?

This seems like inadequate planning and poor thinking.



I agree, we need an independant outside/unbiased consultant to assist with a
master community plan and to look at all town owned buildings and land and make
recommendations to maximize our use and potential revenue.
Having a building committee for the DPW/Police is only a part of the solution
and should be part of the bigger picture. A town with a shrinking year round
population, no year round industry other than fishing and heavily reliant on
summer tourism and second home owners.

Here is my two cents for what it is worth.

The DPW on the corner Rte 6 and Race Point should be shifted to the transfer
station site and that prime corner real estate land should be sold to a housing
developer for single family homes. It is a beautiful site and abuts a sand dune. 
The High School should be closed and sold "as is", not repaired,  and the
current students moved to another town owned building. The high school would
make great loft condo's.

The police station should be torn down and rebuilt as a two level building on
the same site across from the Fire/Rescue station.  Police operations would need
to be housed in town hall or trailers during construction.
BOS, hello are you there???
9:27 pm edt 

Re: Blame

".  .  .So please no retreads. The Town Manager  had a strong start but
has been struggling of late. But your petty wars are so useless and as a result
nothing is getting done. The disaster and expenses of the school buildings is
one of many examples."


But Erik was going to solve everything.  I guess he's now part of the problem.
9:21 pm edt 

Re: Blame

".  .  . But your petty wars are so useless and as a result nothing
is getting done. .  ."



If nothing is getting done that means we are already back to the days of
Avellar, Andrews, Couture, et. al.  Of course the definition back then meant
they did nothing.  Your definition of nothing now means the streets are about to
be paved, town hall has been restored, we have a newly refurbished library.  You
can talk out your rear all you want, it doesn't make it true.  I'll take the
current admin every day compared to the past do nothing administrations.
9:17 pm edt 

Re: Blame

"It's time for a new approach. The next election can't come fast
enough." Who is leading this charge for change?  Avellar, Steele and Walker?"



Those names seem to be enough get you Town Hall types very upset, just as
Maguire, Lynn, Coen, McChesney, Knight-Coture get others cranked.

So please no retreads. The Town Manager  had a strong start but has been
struggling of late. But your petty wars are so useless and as a result nothing
is getting done. The disaster and expenses of the school buildings is one of
many examples.
5:19 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown High School
 
Sorry, but the Only Issue Isn't fixing our Buildings

Especailly those we don't really need anymore. Can someone tell me the logic to
have shifted the elementary students from the elelmentary school to the high
school--especially when the high school and its days were numbered. Why?

This seems like inadequate planning and poor thinking.

What is or was the logic? I surely don't get it.
1:33 pm edt 

Re: Blame

Re: "Today it only matters that the budget does not have enough money
in it for maintenance of our buildings. And no one has asked for it. The
Selectmen, School Committee, Town Manager and Finance Committee have each
pretended all is well when the walls are literally crumbling around them.

It's time for a new approach. The next election can't come fast enough."



Who is leading this charge for change?  Avellar, Steele and Walker?  And they
want to take us back to the time when they did nothing to maintain our
buildings?  Why would any sane person want to go back to that day?  Is this town
really that nuts?
11:42 am edt 

Re: Provincetown High School

The Superintendent of schools, and the Principal of the High School
are directly to blame for the condition of the school.
It is the job.

They are responsible. There may be others who are responsible as well.
They will all retire with HUGE pensions...

Maybe, they should be fired for incompetence,
and the pensions can go towards fixing their mess.
11:40 am edt 

Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Re: Blame Game

Wassup with all the whining?  All we're asking are questions.  The owner of this
blog is attacked for censorship but yet we read ample criticism that get
published.

If you don't like the appointments of the Town Moderator...recall her.  When
mediocre politicians like              are calling the shots...watch your wallets
taxpayers !!!!
11:31 pm edt 

Good Government

Good Government Requires Citizens who Think, Criticize and Understand
the In's and Out's of Governing

This blog serves us well in providing an understanding of how many see this
small town and what they want from it and what they want changed. it is helpful
to have this collective voice. Granted it is not a singular voice but that is
not what government is. The many who come together to form the one.

Good government is not simply the acceptance of what those in power want and do.
It is be critical. To think and think deeply. It also involves taking positions
that may be unpopular yet necessary for good government to occur. Criticism is
so often positive and helpful and refreshing.
11:30 pm edt 

I Like This Blog

It has variety. it has pizzazz. It has fairness. so many different perspectives,
good analysis, interesting ideas. It's even fun to know what others are really
thinking.

It's great that it is here, however it gets done and whoever posts.
11:26 pm edt 

Re: Blame

"Why is it so important to assign blame?"


Because we continue to make the same mistakes over and over again, and rather
than try something new, Town Hall blames someone else.

Today it only matters that the budget does not have enough money in it for
maintenance of our buildings. And no one has asked for it. The Selectmen, School
Committee, Town Manager and Finance Committee have each pretended all is well
when the walls are literally crumbling around them.

It's time for a new approach. The next election can't come fast enough.
3:40 pm edt 

Re: Blame

It's important to assign responsibility for a record of poor fiscal and
infrastructure management when some of those with the record are bent on
retaking control of town levers of power from those more responsible than they
were. It is particularly important when their spouses and associates will tell
any       and use any method, eg this slanted and censored anonymous attack blog
to get their petty way. I refer directly to former Chair Avellar, her husband
Duane Steele and the blogmeister Clarence as well as their thug puppets like 
            .
3:33 pm edt 

Happy Post-Labor Day!!

It has happened. Summer has left like the last sailboat headed to Boston
yesterday, sailing out through high winds and white capped seas. Heading out and
away.

It has happened. The season for business and tourists has come--and gone.

I hope businesses did well. I hope everyone had a most enjoyable and wonderful
summer.

Fall is great, just different. Now silence reigns. Few cars drive by and the
pedestrian walkways lay empty.

The nights are cooler, the stars bright and sparkling, with the Big Dipper and
the Little Dipper above us. There is peace in this blue-blackness and a sense
that the land is breathing easier and the oceans sighing with relief.

It's a wonderful time to be here!
3:28 pm edt 

Re: Stephen Borkowski

Why didn't Borkowski Recuse Himself when He Voted on His Client's
Application to the Historic District Commission?

I just don't understand this. It's a definite conflict of interest and Stephen
Borkowski should not have voted on Prager's case before the very commission he
was sitting on. He stayed, presented his views for Prager's request and then
voted for the demolition of part of the Hawthorne Barn. This act reveals a
conflict of interest and a breach against the Mass Ethics and their rules.

Shame on Borkowski for doing this at this personal, if not financial, advantage.
This is shameful. He should know better and perhaps he did--but that did not
stop him from taking this problematic and questionable vote.

You cannot vote where there is any personal connection, abutter's interest, or
financial consideration. Wrong and just plain wrong. Please tell me why he did
this? And why was it allowed?
3:26 pm edt 

Re: Blame Game

Why is it so important to assign blame?

The fact is that the town's buildings are in disrepair and must either be
replaced or restored.

The children were moved to the high school to make room for the COA and Rec
depts. to move in to the old elementary school, thereby enabling the town to
sell two dilapidated properties, the Grace Goveia bldg. and the Rec Center.  We
can whine that those are historic buildings, and they certainly are, but are we
willing to spend the money to renovate them to top shape?

There will be, and should be, always a school in Provincetown.  While we may not
have large numbers of children, those children deserve the same quality of
education and same sense of community that we adults received there.  Also, it's
not fair to bus 5-year olds 45-minutes or more to Nauset.  So let's embrace our
school and support its upkeep.

Town government must always walk that tight ground between the actual budget
requirements that are necessary to maintain the town to its best shape, and the
amount that taxpayers are willing to fund.  To that end, sometimes they take the
expedient way out-- let buildings crumble until the water literally comes
through the roof.  Lesser problems- heating systems reaching end-of-life,
masonry that needs to be re-pointed-- are ignored because they're not visible to
the naked eye.  That eventually causes greater costs than if they'd been
maintained properly.

I agree with previous posters that the webmaster is unfair in how he censors
this blog.  On the comments page it states clearly that users should avoid
'...derogatory statements' yet continually allows slurs against certain former
selectmen, the town manager, the BOS, town staff, and others who are not in the
'in' group.  Man up and be fair with your editing.  I expect more from you.
2:55 pm edt 

Re: For Failures, Look to Couture
 
Re: "who kiss assed"

Agreed.  Far less offensive phrases get blackened out but this is okay?  Wow
2:21 pm edt 

Re: Blame Game

In the end the blame for lack of maintenance lies with the taxpayers and voters.
From the sewer system to the town buildings there is a constant theme;
administrations and politicians too afraid of the voters to ask them to pay for
necessary upkeep of town assets. This is the same game that goes on at the state
and national level. It's great to be on the front of the paper for a ribbon
cutting at a new facility but not one is going to have a ribbon cutting ceremony
for properly maintaining things. We had a massive sewer failure because the
original system budget skimmped on the bells and whistles (literally) that would
have identified the problem sooner. Then we had to pay for those bells and
whistles and we haven't had a problem since. Look at many houses in the area and
the lack of maintenance on those. Simply put, many can't or won't afford the
upkeep of their own houses, how can they be happy to vote for the proper upkeep
of town, state or federal infrastructure? There isn't enough money in Provincetown's
economy to pay for proper upkeep. Therefore we rely on grants and increasing
property values from investments of outside money in properties (eg, second
homeowners and new construction) to boost revenue enough to fix things. While it
works and we've made a lot of progress there is a lot more to go and, as a poster
mentioned, no solution in sight to the much more expensive problem of retiree
healthcare and pensions.

Eventually, sooner rather than later, if the economy doesn't pick up a lot locally
and nationally we are all going to be facing a massive increase in property taxes.
1:57 pm edt 

Re: For Failures, Look to Couture

"For ten years this woman was on the BOS and was Chair at the end. A
total disaster, someone who kiss assed so many people and was more taken with
herself than the town."



While I agree that all past selectmen are to blame for their inaction I do not
agree with the venom spewed in your post.  Totally uncalled for and I'm
surprised the webmaster thought it appropriate for posting.

Webmaster, if that same venom was written about your pal, Ms. Avellar, would you
have posted it?
10:45 am edt 

Re: High School is Over and Done With

"LOL New villains!!! I love it!!! It is amazing how many people West
End Mafia can find to blame for TM failings."



LOL right back at ya.  You blame the current TM because the previous TM and
Selectmen were not doing their job back in the late 90s early 2000s?  What
planet are you on?
10:40 am edt 

Re: High School is Over and Done With

"LOL New villains!!! I love it!!! It is amazing how many people West
End Mafia  can find to blame for TM failings."


Tell us how the former Selectmen and Bergman worked to repave Commercial St.

Tell us how the former Selectmen and Bergman did anything to prevent the
deterioration of town hall.

Tell us how the former Selectmen and Bergmen maintained the high school bldg so
it wouldn't need $1.3M in repairs in 2012.

The town manager isn't perfect, but she shouldn't be blamed for the failings of
past administrations.
10:37 am edt 

Police State Conspiracy Theorists

Thankfully they are alive and well.  Read the Banner article.  The issue is not
nude sunbathing or public sex.  The issue IS the behavior of the rangers.
According to what was published in the Banner, the rangers took a citizens
camera and deleted photos from it and then gave him a citation for $150.00 for
"interference".

Photos are property and are potentially evidence.  How can law enforcement
officers force a citizen to delete them with no due process?  The answer is
through intimidation and unethical police tactics.

The citation sounds as though it is issued in cases where citizens dare to dare
or where they are not sufficiently deferential to law enforcement officers.

Uniformed patrols are the way to go.  Let's reserve the "covert ops" for serious
crimes and let's just dispense altogether  with the unethical tactics and bogus
citations.





10:35 am edt 

Town Owned Buildings

There is plenty of blame to go a long way back with Jane Antolini, Sarah Peake,
MJ Avellar the biggest culprit because she has served the longest, Andrews,
Couture, and all the "HIGH" grades given out to the  then existing Town Manager
Mr. Bergman who moved monies from here and there to rob Peter to Pay Paul. Let's
also not forget Ms. Rabinowitz who was BOS chair and a member for many years.
The whole bunch of them never had to run a business no wonder they couldn't
forsee the ill advised cuts and lack of foresight!! Ask Bill Dougal, Ruth
Gilbert, Robert Vetrick and Tom Coen all their predictions have come to
fruition. We have to pay much more now in $$$ Wait for the unfunded employee
liabilities coming reall soon folks!!


There is plenty of blame to go a long way back with Jane Antolini, Sarah Peake,
MJ Avellar the biggest culprit because she has served the longest, Andrews,
Couture, and all the "HIGH" grades given out to the  then existing Town Manager
Mr. Bergman who moved monies from here and there to rob Peter to Pay Paul. Let's
also not forget Ms. Rabinowitz who was BOS chair and a member for many years.
The whole bunch of them never had to run a business no wonder they couldn't
forsee the ill advised cuts and lack of foresight!! Ask Bill Dougal, Ruth
Gilbert, Robert Vetrick and Tom Coen all their predictions have come to
fruition. We have to pay much more now in $$$ Wait for the unfunded employee
liabilities coming reall soon folks!!
10:34 am edt 

For Failures, Look to Couture

For ten years this woman was on the BOS and was Chair at the end. A total
disaster, someone who kiss assed so many people and was more taken with herself
than the town.

She's best to spend her time with her frogs rather than ever come back to town.
She did nothing about the high school. She did nothing about many problems but
was willing to spend and spend on town hall.

10:30 am edt 

Monday, September 3, 2012

Re: High School is Over and Done With

"Oh, are we now cherry picking...How about former First Selectman,
Michele Couture, the cabal's puppet at the time?"



Absolutely, Couture, Avellar, Andrews, all of them.  They dropped the ball and
we're left to clean it up.  Had they done what they were elected to do we
wouldn't have to play catch up now.  You may try to absolve them of blame, but
everyone knows they dropped the ball.  They played games while water leaked
through the town hall roof, they played games while water was destroying the
high school building.
11:00 pm edt 

Re: High School is Over and Done With

"Everyone knows the past administration of Mary Jo and Cheryl Andrews dropped
the ball on maintenance and we are paying for
it now."


Oh, are we now cherry picking...How about former First Selectman, Michele
Couture, the cabal's puppet at the time?
9:02 pm edt 

Re: High School is Over and Done With

I said: The Selectmen and Town Manager are on a campaign to blame some
long gone villain(s) for the their errors."

You said: They don't even have to mention it.  Everyone knows the past
administration of

LOL New villains!!! I love it!!! It is amazing how many people West End Mafia 
can find to blame for TM failings.
8:59 pm edt 

Re: Sting Operation

Oh, yay. I thought the "police state" conspiracy theorists were gone. Good to
see that they're still posting here and standing up for something as important
as nudists rights. God forbid we lose perspective.
8:58 pm edt 

Re: High School is Over and Done With

"The Selectmen and Town Manager are on a campaign to blame some long
gone villain(s) for the their errors."


They don't even have to mention it.  Everyone knows the past administration of
Mary Jo and Cheryl Andrews dropped the ball on maintenance and we are paying for
it now.
1:18 pm edt 

Re: Swim For Life

RE:  Just Asking

Thanks for your response,I was just seeking info with no agenda.

The salary (one person, all years reported here):

2007  $25K
2008  $37K
2009  $39K
2010  $40K

11:24 am edt 

Tough Decisions

The Selectmen seem incapable of taking care of towns' buildings.
Everyone knows it is so much more expensive to do emergency repairs than it is
to keep up with maintenance.

Everyone knows cept the prior town manager and BOS.  Seems they thought they
could delay it year after year after year with no consequences.  Kudos to
current TM and BOS for making the tough decisions and getting done what others
failed to do.
11:21 am edt 

Sting Operation

Surprised no one here commented on the Banner front page story about
The National Seahore Rangers sting operation at Herring Cove and the "police
state" being created.

In recent years they are undercover, armed with guns, and trying to entrap
unsuspecting nudists.

So happy our federal tax dollars are being so well spent. A nice compliment to
our wasteful police spending in town. Two, not one                  cops on
MacMillen last night enjoying the full moon! Happy Labor Day! Howl Y'all!
11:19 am edt 

Sunday, September 2, 2012

Re: High School is Over and Done With

"The town  (and that is us ) still owns it and we are compelled to fix
it . PURE AND SIMPLE"



The Selectmen seem incapable of taking care of towns' buildings. Everyone knows
it is so much more expensive to do emergency repairs than it is to keep up with
maintenance.

The Selectmen and Town Manager are on a campaign to blame some long gone
villain(s) for the their errors.

But it is our Town Manager that has been so distracted by the glitzy Library and
Town Hall renovations that all the other buildings are falling down yet we are
broke.

But then again isn't this how Chairman Austin Knight runs his business? Band-aid
by band-aid over scotch tape ?




10:42 pm edt 

Re: The High School is Done and Over

spending $ 1 million and now probably more when it is over. Why wasn't this a
concern years back when we had a real high school and real students?

Here is another occasion to get tax payers to spend money for something that
some developer has cooked up. spend ti now for what? We have no more than 8
students and it is over.

Why did we put the elementary studnets there and hand over the elementary school
to the DPW? Sorry, but another con game. and we fell for it. This is nuts, crazy
management. Time to stop this wackiness.

How much more craziness can this town take? do you want even more of this
ridiculousness?

10:40 pm edt 

Re: "Just Asking"

The harsh response was because the poster pretended they were going to make a
"large" donation when what they really wanted to do was cast doubt on the
organization in a passive agressive manner.

They also are either too lazy or ignorant to pick up the phone and ask or go to
guidestar and look. They, and you, can call Jay Critchely and ask to see the
90-PF IRS form. He is required to give it to  you for any year you ask for.

You can also access most years from guidestar.org with a free account or look at
the MA attorney general's web site.

Don't be lazy or mendacious, just get the facts. If you find the facts yield
problems then post the facts and the problems.

9:33 pm edt 

Re: High School is Over and Done With

"What               would say the high school is no more so don't fix it?
It doesn't matter if there's a last class at the high school. The town  (and
that is us ) still owns it and we are compelled to fix it . PURE AND SIMPLE ! It
must be used  as a public school so don't get any other ideas! Sorry!!"


Are you serious?
9:30 pm edt 

BOS & Building Committee Public Meeting

I want to thank both groups for an excellent presentation and report in general. 
I agree with the committee members who mentioned Rachel White. She is an
excellent resource for providing context and PPD evolution from the days of
beloved Chief of Police Marshall through our current Chief.

2:42 pm edt 

Re: Swim For Life

I have also been a loyal supporter of The Swim For Life. It has been one of my
favorite events of the season for many years. The concert, the ribbons, mermaid
brunch, the swim and all the love.

Albeit I find it unsettling when someone politely posts about the balance sheet
and is summarily dismissed for inquiring. Although correctly pointed out that
the data is available it should not end the conversation.

For several years now there has been somewhat of a "whispering discreet inquiry"
from many of the swimmers and pledges not so much where the revenues are
distributed but questions on salary. The 2010 report is clear. Previous years,
maybe not much so?

Just asking.
2:37 pm edt 

Working Class Party is Now Nonexistent

Joe Biden isn't representimg the poor peoples party. That would be the
working class who couldn't afford the ridiculous prices charged to go to his
recent affair at the monument. The last historical time a vice president was
here was for the dedication of the monument and it was opened to the public The
working class party is now nonexistent. It's all about money Both parties are
obnoxious. There's no difference in how we the poor people get        !
2:35 pm edt 

Re: Property Tax Rates

The blogger who said private homeowners with rentals are in the same category
as business ,so therefore does not subsidize business" avoided the issue. Th
issue was small homeowners without rentals or business of any kind are most
certainly subsidizing business if they are on the same tax rate . You can't refute
that because the state agrees with it also.
2:32 pm edt 

Re: High School is Over and Done With

What           would say the high school is no more so don't fix it?
It doesn't matter if there's a last class at the high school. The town  (and
that is us ) still owns it and we are compelled to fix it . PURE AND SIMPLE ! It
must be used  as a public school so don't get any other ideas! Sorry!!
2:29 pm edt 


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