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Saturday, June 30, 2012

Re: Police

Who was let go on the police dept?? I do agree we do have to many cops
around!! We must have a high crime rate!!!??
1:54 pm edt 

HEY ... Re: Re: Public Smoking

Your Tea Party thinking needs to leave town.
All you can do is attack people while the rest of us
are held hostage to your stupidity. Every problem in this country and town is
because of an attitude like yours.
One issue, and a not so important one in the scheme of things, that you stay
focued on while the rest of us have to suffer with your rants.
This is not a "freedom" issue and how dare you use the Nazi
comparison to rules against smoking. Smoking is unhealthy and causes death,
period. After having three parents die from lung cancer and with my own over
four decade addiction with smoking (of which I have finally beat for now), I
just don't get how this argument is still an issue.
The couple of restaurants in question I no longer go to because the last time I
ate there I had to inhale smoke while eating an overpriced dinner. Not something
one should have to deal with while eating dinner. And this is coming from
someone who loved smoking between courses in the 70's. Get a life or just keep
killing yourself so we don't have to listen to you anymore.
1:53 pm edt 

BOS Interview

Thank you Erik Yingling for doing your job when interviewing a
candidate for a town committee.  Austin may feel that people are entitled to
openings but all people should be vetted no matter who they are.  I like Ann
Maguire but she did leave a board and questions need to be asked.

1:51 pm edt 

Landry v The Crown

Kudos to Ryan Landry.  The owners of the Crown should treat all people
with respect.  If you give respect you will get respect
1:50 pm edt 

Beach Rake

A big shout out of thanks and appreciation to all those town staff and
board members who finally got the beach raking program underway this year.  What
a difference it is making.  As a Guesthouse owner who picks up guests from the
ferries, we now have a clean and welcoming beachfront to greet visitors.  As a
local enjoying dinner out last night on the deck of the Surf Club, what a huge
difference from the view of the past years of a litter and garbage filled
embarrassment to what is now a beautiful and inviting beachfront.  The harbor
beach is a tremendous attribute for the town.  Let's never allow if to revert
back to what it had become.

Steve Tait
1:19 pm edt 

Re: Public Smoking

"...of greed prevails according to the argument that we're a center of
freedom, i.e. the freedom to jack up everyone's health insurance premiums as you
suck on ciggies and get cancer and other diseases."



Ok then, let's get rid of cars too. Let's get rid of all the hoo-haa that
bothers only YOU!  Your argument is one of a mollusk in its shell--Self
centered, self serving and self-involved.

I don't know what you do for a living but if some sodden brained moron, who is
head of a some such regulatory board,like the board of Heath, came in and forced
you to spend THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS to accommodate people engaging in a perfectly
legal activity then I think your opinion would alter.

First: this is not about smoking. It is about autonomy of business and nothing
else--of course within the perimeters of the rules of "business" set out by the
state. However, the state had nothing to do with this ruling and the local
police want nothing to do with it. It's over reaching, it's pestering good
business people and it's hindering to all things to do with choice. You wanna
bitch about a problem with this country then pick on the food industry. Everyone
is walking around fat and dying.

Second: Smokers respect your space and your opinion--just ask any one of them.
However, they do not respect your axe-like note that just because they smoke
they are jacking up your health care costs, screwing with your livelihood or
otherwise messing with your ability to CHOOSE which business to patronize. Most
people who die of "disease" have never smoked. Ever. You gonna try the "second
hand smoke" argument?  Look it up. No basis. None. None. It's all paranoiac PC
grandstanding. If you're irritated about health costs then you should rial
against the pharmaceutical companies and the insurance corporations who are
raping YOU at every step--which has nothing to do with second hand smoke.

I want to call you an idiot but I won't. I think you know, inherently, you're
either that, or worse. However, in the future, think before you judge--and for
God sake research before you write. Blind simplicity is the crutch of the
sanctimonious. Moreover, vapid reasoning, topped with a pablum take on the
argument, is all you spewed here concerning this issue.

Don't pick on a guy or gal who wants to enjoy a perfectly legal (like the booze
you drink) activity simply because you don't like it.

Happy fourth of July....Sucking in all that smoke blasted out and blowin' your
way from the Patriotic fireworks.

Germany would have loved having you around 66 years ago. They didn't allow
freedoms of thought or action either.

9:11 am edt 

Friday, June 29, 2012

Re: Kudos

Actually, I like Ryan Landry's creative direction and wit, and will see
him regardless of venue!
9:50 pm edt 

Re: Kudos

Looks like Ryan publicly insulted his employer one too many times.
Sounds like he got what he deserves. Good for Rick.
9:48 pm edt 

Re: Shout Out!

What's Your Problem? seems the webmaster even posts your criticism of
him

I wouldn't but that is me. but he seems to post even your rants. seems open
enough to do that. again, I wouldn't.
9:46 pm edt 

Re: Shout Out!

Seems the webmaster can post what he wants

I get my postings posted. I have no problem.
9:44 pm edt 

To: Rick Murray

Glad you did not give in to an offensive and vulgar entertainer.
10:03 pm edt 

Re: Over Policing

"It is definitely not only one person posting about over policing."


You have zero proof of that statement.
10:01 pm edt 

Tourists Shouldn't Be Overwhelmed With Police
 
traffic control, yes. The dancing cop, yes. but all these semi-important
vehhicles with an attitude do not belong here. Again, we are a small town and
don't need police bunched up at every corner simply bunched up. It's obviously a
turn off to tourists as some are reporting.
2:44 pm edt 

Re: Kudos

I would say the lesson is don't get drunk and physical with your
employer - never a good idea.
2:42 pm edt 

Kudos

To Rick Murray who proved that no one diva entertainer is indispensable.

2:41 pm edt 

Re: Police

It is definitely not only one person posting about over policing. And for those
who speak in support good for you. Let's just all be vigilant about protecting
our rights and observant of how rules are enforced and what the agenda is
here....
2:34 pm edt 

Enough Already!

I read this blog, most complaints are kinda silly. Maybe this is as
well. I am so tired of my property tax being attached with overrides every year.
So I am going to at least try and do something about it. The next town meeting I
will prsent an amendment to the town charter to eliminte all property tax
overrides in the future.
I truely believe that govenment will continue to spend  more of my money every
year unless we find a way to stop it.

I will also present an article to over free town parking stickers to property
owners who pay property tax. I work hard for my money, no one gave it to me, and
I would like to keep more of it. Enough already!


2:33 pm edt 

What's Up?

What no new updates?
2:31 pm edt 

Stolen Traditions

It may be timw for a revolt!What is happening here and why? Reports
are that people can't fish from the pier - a tradition. Kids can't dive off the
pier - a forever tradition. Excellent long time police suspended for not giving
enough tickets-not tradition. Police on the pier and in the harbor constantly -
not tradition,just disgusting! One excellent male police officer recently fired
- why? No excuses please. We want answers!Treaditions are being stolen.  Our
rights are being stolen.The town manager and police chief had better get their
act together. Not a good way to get a new police station. Think! Think! and
Think some more! It's a long fall off the top of the ladder.  People with self
imposed power can be easily dismantled.
2:29 pm edt 

Re: BOS Secretary

It's time the selectmen appreciate their own secretary

First they strip their own 2013 budget of their own secretary, leaving them only
$5,000 in their budget. They state they don't really need a secretary and then
treat this person who does so much as if he is doing so little. It's time Vernon
Porter receives the respect that he desserves.

and why didn't Erik Yingling vote on Vernon's performance? He should not have
lost his vote since he can vote and evaluate Vernon on the month and a half that
he has been selectmen. And why wasn't David Bedard's evaluation written into the
record? this is what Elaine Anderson did this May the day she knew she wouldn't
be chair and read her over-the-top evaluation of Sharon Lynn into the public
record and even more--requested that her own personal evaluation be placed into
Sharon's personnel file.

Yet Vernon is denied those who would be more positive leaving Anderson's
campaign that is really still Michele Couture's campaign to remove Vernon
Porter.

Now who's next for public evaluation? David Gardner? Pam? russell Braun? David
Guertin?


2:26 pm edt 

Board of Selectmen v BOS Secretary

Watched BOS meeting, Erik looked somewhat childish in trying to attack
Anne Maguire.  Good for Austin shutting down his personal attacks.

And the public employee review of Vernon was embarrassing.  Does that really
need to be done in public?
2:24 pm edt 

Local Youth at Crack Alley and Town Hall Corner
 
How sad. The foreign students are talking about current events and the state of
the world and the possibilities of life and accomplishment.

The local youth want to play their guitars, smoke pot, and hang out at crack
alley.

What a pathetic and sad situation that there is even a place down town called
Crack Alley.

What a pity.

2:22 pm edt 

Re: Police Presence

Unless you're an outright criminal, anyone complaining about the
police being too visible needs their head examined.  Seriously.
2:20 pm edt 

Outstanding Contrast - American v Foreign Roommate

The American guy, 25, into show girls, pot and drinking. Up till all hours and
sleeps to noon. 5th summer here. The talk is of gossip. Moves out, comes back in
the afternoon to get some his things. In and out of the room to the hall and
back again.

Did I leave my bag here, Oh, here it is. Let me check for this and that. Sorry,
I'm stoned and a little drunk--and it is 4pm.

He moves out and the European 20 year old moves in. We have a special dinner and
he comes in late. I say,"I told you that supper was at 6pm." His retort, "I'm
sorry, I stopped to read what is written on the bas relief."

He asks me about Romney and Obama. I ask him about the Bolsheviks and he starts
out going back to the 19th century and ends up telling me about Stalin's death
on March 5, 1953.

Meanwhile, the 20 year olds here are smoking pot, drinking wine, hanging out and
are dripping with attitude. Oy Vey.

The foreign student tells me he wants to go to Washington DC. I ask him why as
I'm expecting the obvious--and he responds saying that he wants to go to the
library of Congress!

The American guy who says he needs the work stands me up--so I'm going to look
for a foreign student to help me today.




2:18 pm edt 

Re: Shout Out!

The Webmaster is a now a member of the Finance Committee and continues
to sway the public with his choice of what he will post and what he won't post.
There is a reason FinCom members can't be on any other regulatory boards and
should apply to being a webmaster anonymous blogs where is advances his personal
biases which could influence the board he serves on.
2:15 pm edt 

Fast and Loose Shout Out!

Since Clarence got appointed to FinCom there are far fewer messages
getting through.  Clarence, I respectfully suggest that you turn the supervision
of this blog over to someone outside of your family. This fast and loose editing
isn't fair to those who post here.
2:12 pm edt 

Kudos

To Ryan Landry and The Gold Dust Orphans
Such an entertaining show in a venue that none
of the cast ever rehearsed in until today and gave us
a most spectacular performance.
Tonight was true proof of professionalism, talent and
leadership from a man who stood his ground.
Tonight was true proof that not one business is indispensable.
There is always a plan "B" and they took the plung with
brevado.
Thank you Ryan and Orpands and of course Mary Poppers!
10:37 am edt 

Re: Smoking Ban in Provincetown

"Perhaps the board of health should have a ban on the purchase of cigarettes in
Provincetown."


You wrote this in an effort to be cute, but I agree with the words. As this town
and its employees struggle with healthcare costs, and especially given our
progressive heritage, banning cigarette sales makes all the sense in the world.
We once led the state on cigarette-progressive issues (the vending machines were
removed in the early 90's), but finally a sense of greed prevails according to
the argument that we're a center of freedom, i.e. the freedom to jack up
everyone's health insurance premiums as you suck on ciggies and get cancer and
other diseases.


10:34 am edt 

Landry Leaves Crown

Heard a rumor that Ryan Landry and all of his shows have left the
Crown. Anyone know if this is true?
10:31 am edt 

Re: Illegal Fishing From Pier

"Is it really now illegal to fish from the wharf between 5pm and 5am??"


Yes, temporarily to remove an out of town problem.
10:26 am edt 

Illegal Fishing From Pier

Here we go again locals loseing out again we cant even go fishing down
the pier. I want to know who came up with that law we cant go fishing between
5pm and 5 am? If the harbormasters did there jobs instead just sitting in the
office I dont think there would be all these problems down there, they have a
big enough staff
10:24 am edt 

On a Good Note!

What a great job the highway guys did cutting the grass across from
the V.F.W. it makes that cornor look really nice.
10:22 am edt 

Paying Dearly for Last Respects

"I bet that in most other small communities, officers would have been
aware of these extenuating circumstances and done what's morally right."



Then go live in one of those other small communities.  Again, you want a special
privelege given to someone, sorry but life doesn't work that way
10:18 am edt 

Tuesday, June 26, 2012

School Business Manager: Secreatary at $75,000

"How many students is this "scholl business manager" involve with? Now
we have eight studnets. last year fifteen. This is just ridiculous. .  ."



You don't listen or read well do you?
9:25 am edt 

Illegal Fishing From Pier

Is it really now illegal to fish from the wharf between 5pm and 5am??
12:46 am edt 

Give It a Rest!

All this complaining about the police is ridiculous. I am out and
about town every day and I've yet to see or hear a tourist complaining about too
many police. The cops are directing traffic, answering questions and patrolling
the streets like they're supposed to. They seem to be doing a good job, not
being heavy handed or intimidating.

I'm guessing it's the same person writing in every day complaining and
fabricating stories about tourists complaining. Keeping our streets safe and
keeping rowdy drunks in line is not going to discourage tourism.

Give it a rest.
12:20 am edt 

School business Manager: Secreatary at $75,000

How many students is this "scholl business manager" involve with? Now we have
eight studnets. last year fifteen. This is just ridiculous. And she is a
secreatary carrying a new title to inflate her salary so she can get a higher
pension.

this has little to do with studnets who are littler in number than ever. disband
the school now. Send these eight students to nauset and close the rest of this
overinflated group.

It should have been closed years ago. It is over. Sad but true. and these others
suck the joices out of the town to maintain the facade that we still have a high
school.


12:17 am edt 

Paying Dearly for Last Respects

Yesterday morning I witnessed an elderly couple's car (with prominent handicap
sign) being ticketed just after they parked in front their deceased friend's
house (Roz G).

Even as a recent wash'ashore I able to easily recognize the car; knew the old
Portuguese driver to be in his nineties. His wife had recently developed
difficulty walking which made paying their last respects that much more of a
challenge.
It all felt so wrong.
Walked less than a block... another police cruiser...another few yards ...the
white Explorer. I walked up to the parking patrol officer  thinking that I might
be able to enlighten her. Maybe telling her I'd just seen  the black funeral van
and a gurney in front of that old Cape; that I'd seen a frail looking lady
hunched over her walker through the front window; that the car she had just
ticketed was owned by the nicest elderly couple.

As I approached her , she made it very clear that she was in no mood for any
kind of exchange. Wide stanced gait with elbows flailing and an intimidating
gaze which said  : "OUT of my way" . There's a fresh harvest of violators in
this parking lot.

It's all so very sad.

I bet that in most other small communities, officers would have been aware of
these extenuating circumstances and done what's morally right.


12:14 am edt 

Monday, June 25, 2012

California State Employees Give up 4% in Salaries

Good example for Provincetown. Let's cut salaries even 3% for the coming year.
The economy is poor and less and less can this town count on state monies to
balance its budget. and also they should stop looking for overrides and increase
in taxes to cover the shortfalls. Sound financial management should prevail!
7:39 pm edt 

Re: Police Presence

My humor surfaces when police issues are raked over on here.  Their
are those who like or at least respect police whether they need them or not and
there are those who always detest police - except when they need them. Then cops
are the best thing since sliced bread !
7:37 pm edt 

Re: Police Presence

I agree that the police presence is out of control. I also have
Been asked by my visitors why so many officers. I for one do not
Like the feeling this puts on the street of our town!

7:30 pm edt 

Bradford and Conwell Intersection

When is the town going to do something about the dangerous
intersection of Bradford and Conwell Streets?
7:28 pm edt 

Re: Traffic Officers

"I agree, especially the traffic officers around Ryder & Lopes
Square......"



I don't who one of the officers is directing traffic but he says hello to a
number of people so I guess he's been here before.  One of the best, nicest
traffic officers I've seen.  He's firm with people when he needs them to stop,
but answers questions, talks to people, just a great representative of our town
to tourists.
7:25 pm edt 

Re: National Seashore

'In fact at the time the "local town fathers" tried to get much of the
land along Moors Road for the town for development'


Exactly why 'the locals' ancestors in the 60s had no appreciation of the beauty
of the Outer Cape when it was taken by the State. Thank you to the Commonwealth
of Massachusetts for ceding the land to the Federal government. Imagine what
Moors Road would have looked like today if the local's ancestors had actualized
their ignorancy? Can you say, 'Shank Painter Road?'

And let's not forget the local's ancestors who turned down an offer by the State
to install a Town wipe septic at no cost to the Town.


7:23 pm edt 

Police, police, police

Always there when you don't need them, seemingly never there soon enough when
you do. The police presence around town this weekend is for the safety of
everyone. If a skirmish breaks out, it can be dealt with quickly and not disrupt
the rest of the celebrations in town. These men and women are trying to make the
entire town safe and enjoyable for everyone. The drunks, druggies, pissed off
"townies" (otherwise often known as yearrounders that don't like waiting in
lines in a tourist town) and other people out to cause mayhem don't belong in
the scene. Take a look at the court reports or police logs on Monday. Nobody is
being arrested for having a good time. As I've always said, if your not doing
anything wrong, why do you feel guilty around cops? Your paranoia is baseless.
7:21 pm edt 

Re: What Cutbacks on Employees Salaries?

"Actually she was a secretary until a new title was created to justify
the 30,000 dollar salary increase.  .  .It happened a few years back and was
voiced on this blog.  .  ."


Last time I will be bothered to take the time to prove your rants against town
employees are not based on fact.

School Business Manager wages
2006 $57,097
2011 $74,342
source: town annual report.

Has this position done well or themselves?  You bet.  Did they get a $30,000
increase a you stated?  Not even close.  Largest annual increase I could find
was a $6,000 increase the year the high school principal position was
eliminated.

Another post in which you have lied, is anyone really surprised?
7:17 pm edt 

4th of July Fireworks

Short on the fireworks fund???? How about we divert some of the money
we spend on creating a police state in Provincetown on our so called
'independence' day and have the best firework display money can buy.  We don't
need horse mounted police, state police mobile fusion centers and jack booted
thugs intimidating our tourists.  People have stopped coming to town on the
fourth for theses two reasons.....a nasty police state and lack luster firework
displays.
7:14 pm edt 

Sunday, June 24, 2012

Plane Crash

Plane crash at airport about 10 pm Saturday. Hope all are well.
1:43 am edt 

Re: What Cutbacks on Employees Salaries?

It took a while looking through the 2011 annual report but I did not
find a school secretary making 75,000.  I have to guess you are referring to the
school business manager who has been there 26 years.  A business manager is far
different from a secretary as you described

Actually she was a secretary until a new title was created to justify the 30,000
dollar salary increase (bump as the locals say) If you think this is outrageous
how about the fact that there are 2 different secretary's who enjoyed this
"bump". Can't remember what her new title, tho I'm sure it sounds important.
It happened a few years back and was voiced on this blog.
This kind of thing happens all the time, we don't vote on individual line items.


1:38 am edt 

Re: Over Policing

".  .  .  I think this has to be one of the best police forces we've
had since I've been here."



I agree, especially the traffic officers around Ryder & Lopes Square, they're
the best I've seen.
12:21 am edt 

Saturday, June 23, 2012

Re: Over Policing

THANK GOODNESS-THE POLICE ARE PROTECTING THE COMMUNITY

Groups of young people yelling up and down our street, close to the bas relief
Thursday night. Looked like they took a dump in my driveway.

That is why the police are policing the grounds. People hear about the Festival
and think that it is a free for all.

Read the paper: guy with a loaded gun, etc etc etc That is why the police are
out in number.
7:26 pm edt 

Re: Over Policing

I couldn't agree more about the overwhelming police presence!!  It's
gross.  Did the chief think that increasing  traffic enforcement and giving
everyone a ticket over the winter was a smart way to get us to fund his new
police station?  DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7:24 pm edt 

Re: National Seashore

"Provincetown did not give the land up. It was taken
over by the Federal Government under eminent
domain. Thank goodness."



All of the National Seashore in Provincetown was a State Park - Provincelands". 
It was ceded to the federal government by the state. It was not taken by eminent
domain.  In fact at the time the "local town fathers" tried to get much of the
land along Moors Road for the town for development.  A golf course and high rise
hotels were planned.  This land was not given to the town because of the hard
work of "wash-a-shores" from New York and we owe them a debt of gratitude for
the preservation of all that open space.
7:21 pm edt 

Re: Over Policing

"I don't know if my guests will want to return and their last comment
was "who is paying for all of this".



I'm not believing you on this fabrication.  Out of town visitors ask who is
paying for our police force?  Don't believe you.

The people who scream the most about our police force are usually the ones in
the most trouble.  I've never been stopped once by the Provincetown PD, not in
15+ yrs I've lived here.   But, then again I'm not drunk in public, I don't
drink and drive, I actually stop at a stop sign, I don't have a restraining
order against me, my registration is current on my vehicle, I don't deal drugs, 
etc.

If, for example,  you get stopped for drunk and disorderly, it's not a police
state, it's Provinceton's finest doing their job.  I think this has to be one of
the best police forces we've had since I've been here.

And nope, I'm not a police officer, just a resident who appreciates
professionals doing their job.
7:19 pm edt 

Re "More Stupider"

"More stupider indeed!
Grammatically  yours,
Miss Crabopple"


Dear Miss Crabopple,

It was sarcasm.
7:15 pm edt 

Over Policing

Add my vote to those dismayed about the over policing that is currently
happening in town. As a year round resident I never thought the long arm of fear
and fascism that has gripped our country would reach us here....the history of
Provincetown has always been a live and let live, free at the end of the world
attitude, it is what has helped to foster the creativity and free spirit that
Provincetown is known for - let's throw the bums out in true Ptown fashion!
1:13 pm edt 

Re: What Cutbacks on Employees Salaries?

"We Have Secretaries at the High Scholl Making Over $75,000"
Yes, we do. And we approved it at Annual Town Meeting.
Where were you?



I didn't write original post, but I too was at town meeting and at no point was
a school secretary salary discussed nor was it in the warrant (I just looked
again) so don't blame voters if they don't know this.

It took a while looking through the 2011 annual report but I did not find a
school secretary making 75,000.  I have to guess you are referring to the school
business manager who has been there 26 years.  A business manager is far
different from a secretary as you described it.

I don't know who you are, but you seem to have 'a bone to pick' with all town
employees.  You intentionally write misleading information and write about your
belief that all town employees are overpaid.  If someone posts information
proving your facts were incorrect you move to your next rant.    If a person has
the educational background and work experience to work for the town I hope we
pay them what they are worth and what is a competitive wage to other Cape Cod
towns.  Just because you don't have the education and/or experience to get a
similar wage does not mean others should be punished.

My understanding is that Provincetown employees pay 20% of their health
insurance benefits which is less than what most other public service employees
on the Cape pay.  I would suggest that % should increase over time and at the
same time anyone who is paid less than similar positions in other Cape towns
should be brought up in pay.  I think Provincetown employees should be paid
wages that are around the average pay on Cape Cod and their benefits should be
near the average.  I don't think they should be overpaid nor do I think they
should be paid less than what they are worth.  I find it hard to argue that we
can not afford to pay our staff what they are worth, but can afford to spend
$250,000 on a garden.
10:41 am edt 

Re "More Stupider"

"YOU don't need to read this blog to see if people are getting "more stupider." 


YOU only need to read what YOU wrote while standing in front of a mirror and
your question will be answered.

More stupider indeed!

Grammatically  yours,

Miss Crabopple
10:38 am edt 

National Seashore

Provincetown did not give the land up. It was taken
over by the Federal Government under eminent
domain. Thank goodness.
10:36 am edt 

Is Provincetown a Police State?

I'm a year round resident who had out of town guests for the Portuguese
Festival.  Their impression of Provincetownfrom walking a few blocks of
Commercial Street was to ask if we were living in a "dictatorial police state". 

Within approximately 15 minutes of standing near Town Hall listening to music,
we witnessed six surley looking officers walking about, one police cruiser and one
police SUV.  Everyone found this to be extremely unusual and excessive, such as
they have never witnessed at events in large cities with many more people and
high crime.  We were asked why is this tolerated in Provincetown as it creates
an terrible atmosphere of always being watched.

I don't know if my guests will want to return and their last comment was "who is
paying for all of this".
10:35 am edt 

Police Department

Until the fat is gone, we will continue to bleed.


9:14 am edt 

Re: What Cutbacks on Employees Salaries?

"We Have Secretaries at the High Scholl Making Over $75,000"


Yes, we do. And we approved it at Annual Town Meeting.

Where were you?


9:12 am edt 

Happy Portuguese Festival to One and All

Hope everyone is enjoying all the wonderful events. I look forward to tomorrow's
3 pm. parade and also to the Fado performance at town Hall at 7:30 p.m. and then
the Blessing of the Fleet Sunday at 1 p.m.

It's a wonderful event and how great to have all of this here. to all who have
worked so hard to make this happen: Obrigado!
9:11 am edt 

Welcome to Policetown

Driving into Provincetown this aftenoon I was greeted by three cruisers on the
very short ride between the town line and Race Point Rd.  Two cruisers, one in
the center median by the traffic light and the other hiding in the driveway of
the DPW waiting to pull someone over for a motor vehicle infraction?

It is really obnoxious that the Town Manager/aka Police Chief Lynn is allowing
the police to harass and intimidate the people that live here and pay their
salaries.

This really needs to stop and firing the town manager would be the first step in
the right direction.
Hope the Board of Selectman wake up and see what is going on and the very
negative impression this makes on our community.

Get the police off their segways and out of their cruisers and let's practice
friendly community policing walking the beat!  It works in many cities, even
cities that actually have crime.

Our two months of population swell does not warrant the huge police presence we
have.

A very concerned citizen.
9:09 am edt 

Re: Thank God

"Thank God Provincetown gave up 77% of its land to the Federal
Government to create the National Seashore. Imagine what past Town officals
would have done to it? It would look like Shank Painter Road and Hyannis!"




Amen to that !!  Thank God the Federal Government controls 77% of the land here!

Great observation by the way

9:07 am edt 

Friday, June 22, 2012

A Testament to the Times

Those who think people are getting more stupider need only read this
blog for proof.

10:29 pm edt 

Re: What Cutbacks on Employees Salaries?

"Town employees have rarely taken a hit in these difficult times. . ."



You don't know your history very well.  I'd suggest you ask the right people and
find out how many times in the past ten or so years our staff did not get
increases.
10:25 pm edt 

Conflict of Interest?

At the zoning board meeting last night, David Gardner and Russ Braun was in
favor of give gallons to the new Barber shop on court street.

First David is an abutted and Russ gets him hair cut by him, conflict of interst ?

Just saying
10:19 pm edt 

What Cutbacks on Employees Salaries?

Sharon wants to be everyone's friend.  Well you can be, as a manger you need to
make the unpopular choices.

Sharon I like to work for you get paid full-time and have scheduled hours less
than that.

But wait you work for the taxpayers and we need you to start be fiscally
responsible with our tax dollars.

Tired of Sharon's lack of management skills!

10:17 pm edt 

Three Good Choices For Good Departments

Council on Agin, the fire Department and Recreation seem to serve us well. but
don't look beyond these three menioned departments. I'll take these three

The rec dept needs to do more for adults.  I went in one day to discuss an adult
program with him.  First I was shock by how dirty his office was, at 9:30 in the
morning he was studying for his fire dept test..  He told me I would have to run
the program and not him.

How about working full-time and doing your job for the whole community.  Maybe
this jib should be part-time since he rsther not work for the ENTIRE community.

Just Saying
10:15 pm edt 

To: "Thank God"

And their justifying response would be "what are you whining about, you voted
for it"?
8:30 pm edt 

Reply to High School Closure blogger

Until at least a certain two people of the adminsitration are gone, you will not
see a significant student enrollment despite the argument of the busing and
Nauset school whatevers. Allot of students left and not because they were
excited to have to get up earlier for school and ride the bus for atleast 40
minutes. So putting aside the financial picture, you need to extend your social
life and make a few inquiries and you might be suprised.
8:29 pm edt 

Three Good Choices For Good Departments

Council on Agin, the fire Department and Recreation seem to serve us well. but
don't look beyond these three menioned departments. I'll take these three
departments and outsource the others.
8:26 pm edt 

It Is With Much Sadness that I Hear of Roz Garfield's Passing

I will surely miss her. She gave so much to this town and loved this town. she
had a wonderful twinkle in her eye and she was great fun to be with.

There will be a void without you. Shopping at the Stop & Shop and not seeing you
there will make me sad. I will continue to look for you but...you won't be
there!

Thanks for everything you did and thanks for choosing to be in this town.
8:24 pm edt 

What Cutbacks on Employees Salaries?

Every year they have received raises when in tough economic times you freexe
salaries. and even when the town voted against the 3% raise, what did sharon do?
Create the four day work week, paid lunches so that they would still get
advantages even when we said NO.

Town employees have rarely taken a hit in these difficult times. Pay freezes and
that includes town manager and chief of police should have been the least that
they did. but no. Salaries go up and up as the quality of the work goes down and
down.
8:20 pm edt 

Thank God!

Thank God Provincetown gave up 77% of its land to the Federal
Government to create the National Seashore. Imagine what past Town officals
would have done to it? It would look like Shank Painter Road and Hyannis!


12:02 pm edt 

Re: The Town May be Beautiful But the Management is Not

Re: "Each department in this town seems to be run poorly and for the
advantage of certain people but not the town. the town does not count. but those
who sit in their seats at town hall work to their own advantage and disadvantage
all of us."



Such a broad sweeping statement.  Can you provide a few specific examples?

Please tell us how the Council on Aging is poorly run and not to the advantage
of the town.

Please tell us how the Provincetown Fire Dept, a volunteer force that saves the
town millions each year, is poorly run and not to the advantage of the town.

Please teel us how the Recreation Dept is poorly run and not to the advantage of
the town or the hundreds of residents who utilitze their programs all summer
long.
11:05 am edt 

Re: The Town May be Beautiful But the Management is Not

"Each department in this town seems to be run poorly and for the
advantage of certain people but not the town. the town does not count. but those
who sit in their seats at town hall work to their own advantage and disadvantage
all of us."



Like the BOS Secretary position?  Decisions made on that because of the person
in the position rather than what's best for the town?
11:02 am edt 

High School Closure

People wanted the so called costly high school to close. Wait until
they see what it's going to continue to cost by busing and sending kids to
Nauset!. You've not been paying attention to what's been going on with Nausets
financial problems.Provincetown High School will be back in business sooner than
you can say "                                                                                          
9:51 am edt 

Health Insurance Benefits

Perhaps the blogger that says other cape towns are moving to reduce
health insurance benefits for employees would be happier by moving to one of
those towns. People who retired before salaries escalated  to what's relevant
today,those employees negotiated salary cutbacks then (even though the salaries
were far less than now),in order to be guaranteed their health insurance. It was
agreed upon by all parties. Stop trying to "chisel" people by renegging on a
"gentlemen's agreement").
9:48 am edt 

Re: Nonsense News

Nonsense news is terrible and an embarrassment
9:46 am edt 

Re: Unbelievable Pensions

Regarding the unbelievable school pensions, how much are we talking
about here?
9:44 am edt 

Camp Lightbulb

Learned a little more than I needed to know about the plans for "Camp
Lightbulb" in Provincetown. I think the last thing this town needs a summer
youth camp for LGBT kids. That's going to become a playground for problem and a
liability to local organizations. I will not support this camp because I do not
think it belongs in a place like Provincetown. It's just not a good idea. I'd
urge everyone to think about this carefully before we support this so-called non
profit camp.

9:42 am edt 

The Town May be Beautiful But the Management is Not

Let's separate the natural beauty of this town--including the saving of this
town because of the National Seashore--and the poor sad way it  has been run.
They are different and sickening in their differences.

Each department in this town seems to be run poorly and for the advantage of
certain people but not the town. the town does not count. but those who sit in
their seats at town hall work to their own advantage and disadvantage all of us.

I am tired of this leadership and tired of a wonderful town that has left the
running of the town to those who care for themselves well above any of us.
9:40 am edt 

We Have Secretaries at the High Scholl Making Over $75,000

For how many students? we have five that graduated--and that is ridiculous and
eight next year. Disband the entire operations including the superintendent and
these secreataries.

the elementary students should have stayed in the relatively new elementary
school. I still know a few in town who were on the building committee. then
close the high school. But no. illogical decisions were made and are still being
amde. This is mismagement at its worse.


9:38 am edt 

Re: Unbelievable Pensions

".  .  . retirement plans. That is the dark, dark secret that we are
paying dearly for. . ."



You must know facts the rest of us don't know.  Tell us the amount of these
pensions and how she approved it.
9:35 am edt 

Re: ADA Contact

First the ADA is a law not an office. Since the library was partly
built with Federal funds, you have a variety of options but look for OFFICE or
agency in the name not ACT.

But the   bike rack has become the symbol of bungled gold plated construction
projects.

Why take that from us too?

9:33 am edt 

Re: Unbelievable Pensions

"The retiring school staff received unbelievable pensions approved by
the former school superintendent as she was leaving. . ."



A departing school superintendent has no say on the size of pension a retiree
receives.  It's administered by an outside entity, the superintendent doesn't
get to arbitrarily decide the size of a retiree's pension.
9:30 am edt 

Thursday, June 21, 2012

Nonsense News

The talk of the schools here is important, but more nonsense news too
Happy Summer
12:12 pm edt 

ADA Contact

Seriously?! You are contacting the ADA about a bike rack in front of the
library? The sidewalk is wider than it ever was across the whole front of the
library. Where have you been the last several years? The whole town is not ADA
approved when it comes to any side walk in town, not just the 8 foot stretch
where the bicycle rack is located. So I hope you told them THE WHOLE TOWN'S
sidewalks are a mess and dangerous for every pedestrian whether they be
physically handicapped or not!

Lets just call your complaint and post one that is not really directed at
whether its ADA appropriate in that one location at the library but just another
lame excuse to attack the library AGAIN for whatever twisted reason you decided
to create in your own mind.
12:10 pm edt 

Unbelievable Pensions

The retiring school staff received unbelievable pensions approved by
the former school superintendent as she was leaving. Find out how much of their
budget is going toward retirement plans. That is the dark, dark secret that we
are paying dearly for.
12:08 pm edt 

Re: The High School: Or Should We Call it Something Elese?

"To the one who said get the facts correct,  please tell us since you
seem to know."

Signed,
How are my tax dollars being spent


I'll admit I don't know everything.  What I do know is that the current year
budget for the school is $3,187,211 which I looked up on the town web site under
town meeting votes.

This budget covers pre-school through 12th grade.  Currently all local students
attend school in the high school building which the school committee determined
was the best of the two school buildings.  I learned that from watching a school
committee meeting on PTV.  We are in the process of phasing out our local high
school education and this year we had only grades 11 & 12 in the high school
building.  We will still have students from Provincetown in grades 9 through 12
in the future, but we are sending them to and will pay Nauset Regional High
School for their education.  I don't know the number of students in grades
pre-school through 8, I would guess if you called the school they could give you
that number.

The high school building will continue to be used for education, but will
educate grades pre-school through 8th grade.  When the decision was made to
dis-continue providing a local education for high school students it was stated
that it was not about money because the cost of sending students to Nauset would
not be that different from educating them here In Provincetown.

Is our school top heavy with administrative staff?  That's another question, the
only thing I would suggest is comparing our staffing levels to Truro.  They also
provide grades pre-school through 8 in Truro and send their high school students
to Nauset.
8:26 am edt 

Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Re: Provincetown Library

Re: "So, if you have time to blog on this blog, you clearly have time
to contact the ADA.  Do it yourself if you care that much."


FYI, I did!  This is a blog for concerned citizens, is it not?  I think the
topic qualifies as an appropriate topic and brings attention of the matter to
others as this blog intends...!
11:34 pm edt 

Re: Pension and Benefits Packages

The town can reduce health insurance cost by:

1. Raise the employee contribution
2. Choose a plan that has a deductible
3. A co-pay of more than $5 dollars

Other towns on the cape are moving in this direction except Provincetown.


A taxpayer that pays for his share of health coverage

11:31 pm edt 

Re: The High School: Or Should We Call it Something Elese?
 
"A Are we realy spending $3 miilion for these eight studnets? this is
absurd."


No we are not, you need to get your facts correct.


To the one who said get the facts correct,  please tell us since you seem to
know.

Signed,

How are my tax dollars being spent
11:29 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Library

"Side walk in front of library completely impassible yesterday where
the bike rack is.  The ADA should be contacted!"



So, if you have time to blog on this blog, you clearly have time to contact the
ADA.  Do it yourself if you care that much.


6:11 pm edt 

Re: Rain Water Catch Basin

Town hall does have a rain catch, its called a well.
5:22 pm edt 

Re: Building Committee Post re: VMES and PHS

"In reading some postings, someone from within town government is
writing in.
Why, because of the contents in the text. If you sign your name to the postings
it might be more beneficial when we go to vote."



This is priceless!! If someone says something that's not negative they must be
working for the town?  Do you honestly think everyone in town is as hateful as
the few who spew their venom?  Most people appreciate that we live in one of the
most beautiful places in the country.
It's great that you think those posters should sign their name.  Evidently you
think that only negative posts should be anonymous.


5:16 pm edt 

Re: The High School: Or Should We Call it Something Elese?

"A Are we realy spending $3 miilion for these eight studnets? this is
absurd."



No we are not, you need to get your facts correct.





5:12 pm edt 

Re: Pension and Benefits Packages

"The benefits line item in this years town meeting agenda was over 5
million dollars. I wonder what the total cost of town employee benefits must be
if "most are being paid for by employee contributions"."



The conversation was about pension costs, not 'benefits'.  The two are not one
and the same.

I don't work for the town, nor am I sleeping with someone who works for the
town, but I do visit the finance director and ask questions.  I was told the
'benefits & insurance' line item in the budget includes health insurance,
liability insurance, vehicle insurance and the town's pension contribution. 
Sorry, I don't remember the amounts, but the health insurance line is by far the
largest.
5:05 pm edt 

Provincetown Library

Side walk in front of library completely impassible yesterday where
the bike rack is.  The ADA should be contacted!
5:00 pm edt 

Local Cartel Leader Strong Arms Selectmen
 
Charles Smith, the leader of the Shank Painter Cartel, a well known conglomerate
famous for out maneuvering hapless government officials has launched a skimirsh
against the Provincetown Selectmen.  In a widely anticipated showdown, citizens
have begun a social media revolt about the conditions of the Laundromat while
the Selectmen quickly pondered the problem they created but know not how to fix.
We have live updates from our correspondent in the award winning Town Hall.
Let's listen in:

David McChesney wonders aloud: "What is this word 'laundromat'  Is it a word
from the Jamaican language, why must we speak of it?" Bio-scientist Dr Anderson
warns. "The best defense against germs is a warm smile. If are you really
worried, why not add some RID to your load of delicates?" While A Knight asked
"Can I join your Cartel?.. Please? . Pretty Please can I join your Cartel
PPULEEEZZZ?". Suddenly, Santos looked up and demanded: "What time is it!?! Are
we still talking about that Bear??" Oh Um Oh , stop complaining, take a another
shift at work and buy your own damn washing machine from Mike!" Yingling quickly
telephoned every facebook complainer and promised to force a resolution while he
asked them to join his SUPER PAC. The Town Manger again spoke with conviction
and clarity. Her one word statement: "BERGMAN" when asked to clarify, she said
only "KIETH"

Yet, just before adjourning  to the Selectmen's  private dining room, the Board
issued a special permit to the Cartel allowing them to install a tollbooth on
Shankpainter Road.

Mr. Smith responded with a spontaneous touchdown dance and flip with the aid of
his posse of lawyers as he exited the hearing room.

From the The Shank Painter Estate & Gardens, This is Nonsense News
9:49 am edt 

Re: The High School: Or Should We Call it Something Elese?

"Are we realy spending $3 miilion (sic) for these eight studnets?
(sic)"

No, we are not.  That's the full school budget counting the elementary school
and the tuition costs for sending students to Nauset.  Nauset is far from free
and in the future we'll have little or no control over what they charge us.
8:52 am edt 

Re: Pension and Benefits Packages

The benefits line item in this years town meeting agenda was over 5
million dollars. I wonder what the total cost of town employee benefits must be
if "most are being paid for by employee contributions".
8:51 am edt 

Building Committee

"Warrants for construction cost overruns are more predictable than than
fly abatement"



Let me understand your logic.  Construction had not started.  Bids for the
project come in higher than estimated and approved by town meeting voters.  Town
can not proceed until additional monies are approved.

So even though construction had not started you call that a construction cost
overrun.  Don't think your logic makes sense.
8:43 am edt 

Pension and Benefits Packages

"I still believe that the town manager should focus on ways to
eliminate the current pension and benefits packages the town employees receive."



You are completely off on that one.  Do a little research and you will find some
interesting stats on public employee pension costs, the majority of which are
paid into the system by employees.
8:41 am edt 

Get Rid of.........

The school superintendent, her            principal, the vice principal, all of
the secretarys, the receptionists, the           social worker.  Are you kidding
me??  For a school system with so few students??  The town would save a hell of
a lot of money without these albatrosses.
8:39 am edt 

Pier Corp

If you think watching the pier corp is bad try watching historic some time.  Be
thankful if you're not in the historic district. I am in the district and I
cringe at the thought of ever having to go before them.  What a joke!
8:35 am edt 

Rain Water Catch System

Did the town not hire an architectural firm for the renovation project. If so,
why did they not suggest a rain water catch system.  Would certainly have helped
for watering the lawn.
8:33 am edt 

The High School: Or Should We Call it Something Elese?

Five studnets graduated this year. Eight will graduate next year. This makes no
sense. The school should have been closed two years agao and the studndets--for
their own enlightenment--sent ot Nauset Regional. Are we realy spending $3
miilion for these eight studnets? this is absurd.

And now we should be considering huge amounts to make the bricks safe at the
high school--a school that is no longer needed. why would you put the younger
kids in this school and then close their shcool when the high school on its own
would have folded in a year?

this is mad thinking and Sharon-twisted politics. I'm ready to send her back to
West Goshen where they appreciated her limited thinking. I just don't.
12:08 am edt 

Town Hall Renovation - No Building Committee

Re: Building Committee

"A Jewel"? sorry but $9 Million Plus will Give Any town a Nice town hall

this is beyond logic. You Don't want any complaints because the town received a
filmsy plaque for spending our tax dollars for over $9 million ? Does the
so-call honor mean we should all shut up?

I don't believe so. there was no building committee and if anyone of you
remember, it was first to be only a few million. Remember the frog chair and her
determination to make this happen? she did but she is not even a tax payer so
it's the rest of us that are paying for this more than $9 million project.
12:04 am edt 

Historic District

Does anyone know who determined what parts of town should be historic
district? People I asked in Town Hall didn't know. Part of the north west side
of Bradford St. is historic and across the street on the same side is not
historic.  Who determined the horrible monstrosities built around Pleasant St.
Extension/Brown St./FranklinSts. general vicinity. They are totally out of
character for that area. Do we have a Historical Committee or is it Commission?
(Committee is advisory,Commission is autonomous). Why do we need a Historic
Committee or Commission and also a Historic District Commission?  Too confusing! 
Also it's obvious the Pier Committee doesn't have residency requirement.  Watch
their performance sometimes.  That's why Police are on the pier because pier
group doesn't know how to manage their responsibility.  It's an expensive
taxpayers joke!!
12:01 am edt 

Tuesday, June 19, 2012

Building Committee Post re: VMES and PHS

In reading some postings, someone from within town government is writing in. 
Why, because of the contents in the text. If you sign your name to the postings
it might be more beneficial when we go to vote.
11:58 pm edt 

Re: Building Committee

"Let's move forward and stop obsessing over past actions which have
proven to be wise ones."


It was NOT a wise choice to completely ignore the fact that doing a 'catch
system'  of rainwater was totally ignored with the reconstruction of the new
Town Hall.   We ... being in a rain zone that has vast amounts of rain water
that is NOT stored  .... AND having a water deficit is alarming.

I say SHAME on the non existent Bldg. Committee and the Town Manager for not
having the foresight to put a rain-catch system in and start the overall process
town wide.

dk

11:56 pm edt 

Re: Building Committee

"That's just not true.  The projects were all under budget.  The
heating system at the school failed, but that's not the fault of the renovation
project, it's a fault of a 50+ year old furnace."


What? Are you kidding?  So the 50+ year old furnace wasn't included in the
renovation project?  Who was in charge of this "renovation" cause last time I
replaced my furnace it was about 20 years old and struggling.  Common sense
would dictate 50 years for a furnace might be a tad old.  Where's the Candid
Camera?
11:53 pm edt 

Political Party Meetings

How is that the Selectmen (at least one) uses the Town Hall for a political
party meeting meeting? Below are the rules


REGULATIONS FOR PUBLIC USE OF TOWN HALL
Adopted 2/12/90; as amended thru 11/13/95 and effective l/l/96
Amended 4/27/98 and effective 5/l/98.  Amended 2/14/02
Amended 5/10/2010 and effective 5/20/2010
Amended 9/27/2010 and effective 10/7/2010
Amended 1/23/2012 and effective 2/16/2012

7. The use of other Town Hall meeting rooms will not be permitted by any private
group, organization, or individual.  The only space available for permitted use
is the Town Hall
Auditorium, unless approved by the Town Manager
(http://www.provincetown-ma.gov/DocumentCenter/Home/View)

11:50 pm edt 

Building Costs vs Pension and Benefit Packages

I want to see what the new building committee can come-up with, as far
as a new police station is concerned. Maybe there will be an idea that allows
for a new building without too much pain.

I still believe that the town manager should focus on ways to eliminate the
current pension and benefits packages the town employees receive. That alone
would pay for the new station, many times over.
11:47 pm edt 

Building Committee

"Why keep rehashing old history? Maybe there was no building committee
for Town Hall..."


Your kidding, 'old history?' I fault the Selectmen, some of whom are still on
the board, for not adhering to the Town's charter.
11:44 pm edt 

Living Here Year Round is Getting too Expensive

My partner and I have been living in town for over ten years and we dont know
how much longer we can live here.  He has a full time job and I have a part time
one and we can barley make ends meet.  We are in our late fifties and had to
sell our home and buy a smaller one because the taxes are so high and the cost
of living here is so  ridiculous.  There is only so much we can do to cut
corners.  Fortunately our families have been able to help us when we need it,
but we can not count on them forever.  Provincetown has become a place only for
wealthy outsiders and for people like us there is little hope.

11:43 pm edt 

Re: Building Committee

"That's just not true.  The projects (VMES & PHS) were all under
budget."



No, we have had a Special Town Meeting Warrant for several cost overuns on both
projects. Meeting after meeting. Warrants for construction cost overruns are
more predictable than than fly abatement
11:37 pm edt 

Building Committee

RE: "The renovations of the PHS and VMES schools as well as the
firehouse restrooms have been a series of failed construction projects. Projects
are far above theoriginal estimates, and schedules are well behind schedule."


That's just not true.  The projects were all under budget.  The heating system
at the school failed, but that's not the fault of the renovation project, it's a
fault of a 50+ year old furnace.  The high school renovation was fine; it needs
regular maintenance, such as pointing the bricks, to prevent water damage.  The
firehouse restrooms are well-used and add some charm to the town-- it's
certainly better than portable units.

You have no facts to back up your opinions, so you should stop making these
inaccurate claims.

12:21 pm edt 

Building Committee

RE: "The renovations of the PHS and VMES schools as well as the 
firehouse restrooms have been a series of failed construction projects. Projects
are far above theoriginal estimates, and schedules are well behind schedule."


Do you have any factual backup for your generalization?   Or is this just your
opinion?  And if it's just your opinion, shouldn't you state it as such?


11:36 am edt 

Building Committee

Why keep rehashing old history? Maybe there was no building committee
for Town Hall, but it was a successful project that received state and national
awards, and is a jewel for the town.
Now there's a building committee and I'm sure they'll do a fine job.
Let's move forward and stop obsessing over past actions which have proven to be
wise ones.
11:15 am edt 

Building Committee

So, why did the Selectmen find it necessary to form a Building
Committee at this juncture if there wasn't one formed to the renovation of Town
Hall and the VMES for that matter?
11:14 am edt 

Building Committee

I didn't know you didn't have to be a Provincetown resident to apply
to be on the building committee. Is the building committee like the Pier
Corporation and doesn't have a residency requirement? If so, how come the
Selectmen didn't advertise as such?
11:12 am edt 

Building Committee

First the police station committee was a clever construct to avoid the Open
Meeting Laws. I don't think it ever really got off the ground. It's secret
meeting approach obviously didn't work so well

Likewise, the renovations of the Town Hall and the Library have produced
wonderful and beautiful buildings, but at extraordinary cost. We spent far more
money that we had to get a similar result. These two buildings will have huge
impacts a generation of town finances.

The renovations of the PHS and VMES schools as well as the  firehouse restrooms
have been a series of failed construction projects. Projects are far above the
original estimates, and schedules are well behind schedule.

So our track record with building projects isn't so good. In that context, I
wish the Building Committee well, but hope they resist the temptation to grab a
hold of more of my money.


11:10 am edt 

Monday, June 18, 2012

In Reality There Was no Building Committee Oversight for Town Hall Renovations

The Historical Commission is NOT a Building Committee

It has no authority to be a building committee. It is advisory. It was empowered
to deal with finance, assessment of needs or bids. also, the Historical
commission is NOT regulatory.

Had there been regulatory decisions--and there should have been--it should have
involved full review from the Historic District commission. they have the power
and the law behind their decisions.

Again, there was no committee authorized to deal with the $9 million renovations
of town hall.
11:04 pm edt 

Building Committee

If you read the minutes of the Historic Commission you will realize
that they were the building committee during the years when nobody in town
wanted to serve on a building committee. Thank you Historic commission.
11:00 pm edt 

Re: Building Committee for Town Hall

The Historical Commission (not to be confused with the Historic District
Commission) was appointed to act as the Building Committee for the Town Hall
renovations. I haven't had time to pour through their minutes, but I believe
that was the case based on reporting at the time.
10:59 pm edt 

Town Hall Renovation

Town Hall did Not Have A committee Invovlved with the $9 Million
Project

there were informal meetings with select individuals. there never was any formal
committee. additionally, it was presented as a "renovation" that did not need
full review by the regulatory boards.

You try "renovating" your home and see what happens? You can't even remove one
window without full review by some boards.

But not for Town Hall.
10:57 pm edt 

Pilgrim Monument

Townie Week at the Pilgrim Monument through Saturday 6/23!  "Townies"
admitted free with appropriate ID.  "Come climb again for the first time."
10:55 pm edt 

Re: Laundromat

You weren't at the meeting about the laundrymat so you haven't any
basis for you opinion other that just that.  I sat there and watched the owner
and his attorney threaten to close the place over the bathroom.  I am sure my 
                                                                                                              
                                                                                                              
                                    
 But this won't get posted either
10:53 pm edt 

Informal Committee

Some people were brought in as advisors to sharon but there was no
formal building committee. Just a few individuals viewed as "significant" by
sharon.

Who were the advisors to Sharon?
10:49 pm edt 

Building Committee

There was NO building committee involved in the $14 million police building. 
there were informal people asked to be on the so-called committee but there was
never an official committee.

Who appointed these, as you called them, "informal people"?
And what does "informal people" mean - casual, that they call you by your first
name?

Are there any minutes, or agendas, for this unofficial committee?

And..was this unofficial committee the one that recommended forwarding the
almost 15 million dollar police facility for Provincetown?

10:47 pm edt 

Building Committee

Why did the Selectmen appoint Leif Hamnquist to the Building Committee
when he lives in Allston?

Check out his face book page:
Leif Hamnquist
Lives in Allston, Massachusetts From Provincetown, Massachusetts
10:45 pm edt 

Townie Discount

When I was 25 and going out to bars all the time, spending money and tipping
well, I got in free. 30 years later as an old fart I do not go out as much.
Maybe once a season to the Boatslip and maybe 2-3 times a year to the A House or
Crown. I fully expect to pay a cover charge and think that is fair. Several
times I've been pleasantly surprised. Even though I'm not a regular and I do not
know the person at the door, they  wave me in.

Seniority?
10:43 pm edt 

Building Committee

The acting building committee during the renovations of both the old
and new library,plus town hall was the Historical commission.   Check your
facts.
10:42 pm edt 

Building Committee

So, there are no minutes to the ad hoc building committee? Where in
the Charter did it give the BOS the power to form such an informal committee
that didn't meet publicly nor take minutes?

This whole process smell like three day old fish.
10:38 pm edt 

What's Your Point?

"Morning all. Had a great night out and about. Here is one for those
places that a bending backwards to find places for their establishments . . . . "



I think maybe you should have had another cup of coffee b4 you posted.  I don't
have any idea what you're point is.

10:36 pm edt 

Sunday, June 17, 2012

Re: Building Committee

Wrong and wrong again

There was NO building committee involved in the $14 million police building.
there were informal people asked to be on the so-called committee but there was
never an official committee.

Let's get the facts straight.
4:22 pm edt 

Re: Laundromat

"AT THE MEETING WHERE THE LAUNDRY MAT OWNER AND HIS ATTORNEY ATTENDED
The owner bullied the BOS....."


Are you telling me that Grassy was bullied? HA! That't the next issue of
nonsense news!

That meeting was show boating concern. Anderson, Knight Santos could care less
about those without in home laundry.while  McChesney might well not know what a
laundromat is.

The BOS rolled over because they have put the voters second to  a variety of
other concerns.
4:19 pm edt 

Building Committee

There is no building committee yet and has not for years
Look at the town web. No minutes etc. The newly formed
committee are in the formulation process now and will
start the process. However, there may have been an
Ad Hoc but even that I can't find. All I recall is that
Braun got extra  pay to oversee the town hall project.
There has not been a building committee for years.
4:17 pm edt 

Smoking Ban

Morning all. Had a great night out and about. Here is one for those
places that a bending backwards to find places for their establishments to
accomonandate? smoking patrons, got talking with an employee of Joe's who told
me that they can"t go outside and serve their customer. I said,since I saw it on
local TV that they sign a pledge to not allow smoking, "what it matter" and he
told me "oh we were told no one would enforce it". Told by the owner who started
the whole thing 18 months ago. I'm sorry but that place should be fined, they
started this narrowness and now do not want to back it up as everyone else has
to. Brian and Morgan and that chair person need to march over there and issue
"the first fine" to them since they caused the ban and now know, economically
and, not wanting to spend money for "being in code" do nothing and tell their
staff to look the other way. Yeah town not EVER giving the places high signs for
trying to following through when this is our given in town.
4:14 pm edt 

Re: Laundromat

Don't know why another commenter's remarks were censored, but FWIW here are
mine. One out of every three washers (I counted) was out of service the other
day.

- Stinky, dirty and not my fault


4:09 pm edt 

New Leadership Needed

"The owner bullied the BOS and said basically he would close the place
and everyone could go out of town for all he cared.  Not one BOS member stood up
to him "


This is why we need to finish what the job and get new people to run against
Knight and Santos. The 4 old guard members continue to disregard the voters.

All four are useless, feckless and ineffective. Time for new people to get
involved and run for Selectman.
4:07 pm edt 

Townie

It seems to me that Yingling thinks one has to be born and raised here
to be qualified to be on any town board or have any voice in town government. He
is pitting us against one another. Shame on him.
3:59 pm edt 

Re: Townie Discount

Re: "What is this mode of thinking that says someone who owns property
here but has to work in a city to pay for it is worth less as a "townie" than
someone who lives here and may not own property and pays 0 taxes to this town."


So you lament feeling like you are being treated as a second class citizen
because you aren't being granted the "townie" discount you feel you deserve, but
in the next breath you are implying that in your opinion 'non tax payers' don't
contribute as much to the town as you do and are therefore not as valuable as
citizens.

Maybe the "have nots" wouldn't feel so disenfranchised if you tax paying "haves"
treated us a little better. After all, who would clean your house, serve your
food, pour your drinks, etc. if all the 'non tax payers' weren't around anymore.
Oooh, you might have to do those things yourself!
3:55 pm edt 

Re: Laundromat

"Yingling might be the only Selectmen one who cares, but it is only
Knight who can do anything."



If Yingling can't do anything why the heck did anyone vote or him?

I don't buy that only the chair can do anything.  Any Selectman can request
something be put on an agenda.  Each Selectman is responsible for the actions or
inactions of the Board, no one is getting a free pass.
3:37 pm edt 

3:35 pm edt 

Re: Building Committee

"Up until now, the Building Committee has
been defunct for years. These years include
the Town Hall and at least part of the Library.
It wasn't until there was an uproar by the citizens
that is committee was re established."



This isn't accurate.  The 14.6 million dollar "thing" had been presented to, and
reviewed by a committe. Wasn't someone from the Finance Committee on it, along
with the Town Manager and the Chief of Police?
3:33 pm edt 

Saturday, June 16, 2012

Re: Laundromat

I HAPPENED TO HAVE THE DUBIOUS HONOR OF BEING AT THE MEETING WHERE THE
LAUNDRY MAT OWNER AND HIS ATTORNEY ATTENDED The owner bullied the BOS and said
basically he would close the place and everyone could go out of town for all he
cared.  Not one BOS member stood up to him and he got his way. He is a man who
has no consideration beyond anyone or anything other than how much money he can
make.  His properties are all in                  
4:40 pm edt 

Building Committee - History

There was no Building Committee for Town Hall nor the Library

Some people were brought in as advisors to sharon but there was no formal
building committee. Just a few individuals viewed as "significant" by sharon.

It did not even get regulatory persmission for all the renovations.
4:37 pm edt 

Lame

You all need to get a life. Stop complaining and whining like little children.
Get up, get out, and DO SOMETHING about the problems you spend countless hours
complaining about.
4:34 pm edt 

Re: Building Committee

"Leif and Shea are architects......"


I think Hamquist (sp) is an architect student which could mean anything.  Last I
knew there weren't any architect schools on Cape Cod so again, it could mean
anything.   I took a class on architecture in college 15 years ago so I suppose
I could say I'm an architectural student as well.
4:33 pm edt 

Re: Building Committee

Re: "Leif and Shea are architects..they will cozy up to whomever the
town hires."


But, Leif is very qualified according to Selectman Yingling who endorsed his
nomination by stating 'he's a good man, born and raised here'.  Apparently in
Selectman Yingling's view being born and raised here makes one qualified for any
task.
4:31 pm edt 

Re: Townie Discount

Re: "God forbid someone with a few bucks who contributes to the town
gets the same break as someone "who maybe can't afford to pay an expensive cover
charge"



Wow, it's like talking to a wall. Once again, you've missed the point entirely.
4:29 pm edt 

Renters Pay Taxes!

Renters pay rent.  Landlords use the rent money paid by renters to pay
the property's expenses.  One of those expenses is the municipal tax on the
property.  Renters pay taxes.
4:27 pm edt 

Re: Laundromat

Someone said: "Why call the Board of Health, instead call the Board of
Selectmen, . It's the Selectmen who caused the problem, it is only they who can
fix it......Someone replied: "I'd contact Erik Yingling.  As a new go-getter on
the BOS he should be more than willing to take this on."



Yingling might be the only Selectmen one who cares, but it is only Knight who
can do anything. Yet given Knights' patrons don't expect him to do anything
anytime soon.
4:25 pm edt 

Building Committee

Up until now, the Building Committee has
been defunct for years. These years include
the Town Hall and at least part of the Library.
It wasn't until there was an uproar by the citizens
that is committee was re established.
The committee is now in place and should and must
under the Charter review all construction and costly
repairs to all Town properties and to make periodic site visits
to ensure that town owed land and buildings are properly
maintained and comply with state and federal compliance.

4:21 pm edt 

Portuguese Flags

Since one blogger posted that the Portuguese flags are being hung
upside down it may be that the "hangers " don't know because their families are
from the Azores which have a different flag. Most of the Portuguese ancestors
that settled here were from the Azores.  I've never seen those Azorean flags
hanging. The ones that are hung represent the Portuguese mainland not the
Azores. Marine Specialties here in town used to sell both kinds.Let's honor them
all! Muito Obrigado to the hardworking Blessing of the Fleet committee to keep a
long time tradition alive.Boas Festas to all.
4:18 pm edt 

Building Committee

"Our sneaking Selectmen have stacked the Building Committee with
architects! I don't trust the newly formed Building Committee!"


What an asinine comment. With that logic putting people with financial
backgrounds on the FinComm would make that whole group suspect too.
4:14 pm edt 

Re: Townie Discount

Re - "You're missing the point entirely. It's not about who is a real
townie (please,let's not start that foolish debate again,) it's about the fact that years ago,
the whole point of the clubs giving out a "townie pass" was to give a break to
the working class local year rounders who maybe can't afford to pay an expensive
cover charge but are still a vital part of the community."



Well it seems that those included in the definition of "townie passes" has
evolved over the years to include anyone who resides here and contribues in some
way and is not based only on one's economic situation.

God forbid someone with a few bucks who contributes to the town gets the same
break as someone "who maybe can't afford to pay an expensive cover charge"
10:33 am edt 

Building Committee

Leif and Shea are architects..they will cozy up to whomever the town
hires.
Architects Never take the cost effective route....look for the crowned moulding
and other unnecessary embelishments in their design.
10:12 am edt 

Re: Town Hall Restoration - No Building Committee

here do you get the idea that when the town hall was restored we
didn't have a building committee? We did indeed have a building committee that
worked with the plans for town hall and the library. And I might add that both
buildings received state historic awards! Check your facts before you rant.
10:09 am edt 

Re: Laundromat

"Why call the Board of Health, instead call the Board of Selectmen, .
It's the Selectmen who caused the problem, it is only they who can fix it.Austin
Knight is the Chairman and controls their agenda and actions."



The 4 incumbent selectmen  bungled this badly last year and made the situation
much worse.

I expect BOS will do everything possible to bury this in an bunch of BS excuses,
investigations, and task forces.

Money talks on this one.... don't get too hopeful for a resolution
10:04 am edt 

Laundromat

To the dissatisfied patron(s),
I suggest you contact the health agent
508-487-7020, be persistant. I also like the
suggestion to contact our new selectman,
Erik Yingling. I also suggest you gather a group
of dissatisfied patrons and go to the next BOS
meeting and make a public statement about your
concerns. Be prepared with substantial information.
If you can't make the meeting, e-mail the BOS and BOH
with your concerns. The BOH is meeting this Thursday
@4pm and BOS a week from this Monday.
You and your friends or anyone else CAN make a difference!

10:02 am edt 

Monument

How nice to see the leadership at the monument smoothly transition to a new year
following such turbulence. With Bill Dougal at the helm, the vision for the
monument will be toward the future rather than the past and his respect for the
historical importance of the monument and what it represents will ensure the
monument's continued significance to the town's tourism.
10:01 am edt 

Friday, June 15, 2012

Re: Townie Passes

Re:" The other large event is Closing Pary of Carnival which  proceeds
are donate tot the PBG which presents Carnival! I believe last year was $8,000."


Ha ha! What, like the PBG is some sort of charitable organization?? It's a group
organized by business owners to bring in more business! You are essentially
"donating" this money to YOURSELF!
11:31 pm edt 

Re: Townie

Re:" What is this mode of thinking that says someone who owns property
here but has to work in a city to pay for it is worth less as a "townie" than
someone who lives here and may not own property and pays 0 taxes to this town."


You're missing the point entirely. It's not about who is a real townie (please,
let's not start that foolish debate again,) it's about the fact that years ago,
the whole point of the clubs giving out a "townie pass" was to give a break to
the working class local year rounders who maybe can't afford to pay an expensive
cover charge but are still a vital part of the community. Nobody is talking
about who does or doesn't pay taxes. The point is, if you are wealthy enough to
own a second home here, you probably don't need to be admitted free to the
clubs. A dishwasher however, could use a break.
11:29 pm edt 

Re: Laundromat

"Why call the Board of Health, instead call the Board of Selectmen, .
It's the Selectmen who caused the problem, it is only they who can fix it."


I'd contact Erik Yingling.  As a new go-getter on the BOS he should be more than
willing to take this on.
10:22 pm edt 

Laundromat

Good luck trying to call town hall to speak with the health department.  I tried
calling several times and all I got was an answering machine.  I left messages
but no one seemed to return my calls so I called the health department in
another town and they gave me the information I was looking for.
7:25 pm edt 

Re: Laundromat

It really is a shame that the owners of the Laundromat let it get to the
condition it's in. Here's what I have noticed that has been irritating to not
just me but several others;
(1) As you come in the door, the machine on your immediate left has been out of
order for months.
(2) The soap dispenser machine has also been out of service for months.
(3) The left side of the dollar machine has been out of service for months.
(4) As of last weekend, there is now 3 out of 5 large washer machines and 1 of
the small washer machines out of service.
(5) The place looks like someone does not care.

I know for a fact that the man who is the custodian                       has
approached that whole family about hiring him to clean and whatever else needs
to be done at the laundromat. Instead of hiring him, they wait till the
customers get pissed off, start complaining and will probably now threaten to
close the doors like it's out fault.
7:23 pm edt 

Townie Passes

To the submission earlier the Crown & Anchor since 2005 has discontinued DOOR
cover charges on all entertainment venues such as WAVE, Vault and Paramount with
the exception of 5 dates all year round! An additonal cover during the Fireman's
Ball is donated to Provincetown FIre Department, last year was $10,000. The
other large event is Closing Pary of Carnival which proceeds are donate tot the
PBG which presents Carnival! I believe last year was $8,000.

THis year we are donating to a "new" event in Town Camp Lightbulb on Saturday
August 11th. All of our Cabaret entertainers are strongly asked to present a "TOWNIE
SHOW" for all the year rounders. Dina Martina's show was sold out FREE as Was
Illusions, Kate linton is also doing a FREE townie show Sunday June 24tt. I personally
have comp tickets for each and every show here at the Crown so any "true" year round
person who lives here all winter like me please see me personally and I would be
more than happy to treat you to a FREE admittance to any show at my venue!!

Have a Great Summer

Rick Murray
GM

Crown & Anchor Inc.
7:18 pm edt 

Laundromat Crisis

Why call the Board of Health, instead call the Board of Selectmen, . It's the
Selectmen who caused the problem, it is only they who can fix it.

Austin Knight is the Chairman and controls their agenda and actions.
7:10 pm edt 

Re: My God What Happened?

"What drives me nuts is. . .1) My former town gets it tax rate . . ."


No one cares, it's a non-issue.  The town has much larger issues to face.  I'm
going to the beach.
7:05 pm edt 

Re: Loser or Looser

"Summing up: you're the Loser. You're just writing because you can, and
for no other reason."



He isn't the Looser?  Found out how to spell?


7:03 pm edt 

Re: My God What Happened?

"2) I read about it on this blog, and details of that letter were
posted here relentlessly. The Banner eventually published the details, but none of those
details were public. Nothing was on the Town Website. It was all self promotion.
And that degree of self promotion for such a modest accomplishment is
distasteful."

If nothing was on the town website, and none of the details were made public,
how is that self-promotion?
6:52 pm edt 

Lose or Loose

There are so many type-o's here on the blog,
has been in the past and will continue. A previous
blogger may have been judgmental but what are
the qualifications of these people who knock on your
door and ask to assess your property for excise taxes?
What extent of training and education background do
they have? Are they certified assessors?
      I remember when the Federal Census was conducted,
the Census Takers had to take a training course before
going out on the field.


6:50 pm edt 

Re: Townie Discounts

Re: "Remember when Townie discounts were intended to give a break to
those people who worked here in town?   I hardly think somebody who can afford
to own multiple homes needs a discount at Tea dance."



Hey - wait a minute.  Enough of the have's versus the have not's.  People  that
own here - whether it be 1 house or 10 are paying taxes to this town should be
eligible for any "townie" discounts.

What is this mode of thinking that says someone who owns property here but has
to work in a city to pay for it is worth less as a "townie" than someone who
lives here and may not own property and pays 0 taxes to this town.

There are many ways to partcipate in being a Ptown "townie" - why not open your
mind to the options and treat everyone equally who participates in whatever way
to our town.
6:47 pm edt 

Re: My God What Happened?

"Yet it took this bunch 6 years to get it done. And once they got it
right, they wanted a parade for their efforts."



Again, it's kind of funny how bent out of shape you get over a past issue.  6
years?  more like over 12 so it wasn't 'this bunch', but a number of people over
the years.  It looks like we have the right people in place now.

I complain when something isn't right at town hall, I'll also say thanks when
someone does a good job.  sorry if that bothers you.  Your issue, not mine.
6:44 pm edt 

Re: Beware!

"Really? I doubt that. Highly. So you went to the phone, called town
hall, waited and waded through their silly answering system and got the right
person to give you an answer?"



Heck yes, it's exactly what I did.  They said they were working with the
assessor's office so that's who I called.  It's not rocket science.  Well, maybe
to you it is.
6:41 pm edt 

Re: Townie Discounts

I'm curious why someone who pulls money out of the local economy by working here
in the summer, spending little money here, and taking unemployment while on a
sunny vacation  now demands a perk for locals.

Or was that the poster who suggested he was committing fraud by working off the
books?

         be gone
8:06 am edt 

Laundromat

Based on previous complaints it seems that the owners
refuse to comply with the health codes. Call the health
agents and make a formal complaint. They are then compelled
to look into the situation. 508-487-7020, ask for Brian or
Morgan.
8:03 am edt 

Re: My God What Happened?

"Progress on the financial front drives you nuts doesn't it?    We got the tax
rate approved on time once, now it should happen every year to little fanfare."



What drives me nuts is

1) My former town gets it tax rate approved on time and has done so since Prop 2
1/2 was enacted.  Yet it took this bunch 6 years to get it done. And once they
got it right, they wanted a parade for their efforts.

2) I read about it on this blog, and details of that letter were posted here
relentlessly. The Banner eventually published the details, but none of those
details were public. Nothing was on the Town Website. It was all self promotion. 
And that degree of self promotion for such a modest accomplishment is
distasteful.


8:01 am edt 

Re: Beware!

"When someone knocked on my door I called and asked town
hall who they were."



Really? I doubt that. Highly. So you went to the phone, called town hall,
waited and waded through their silly answering system and got the right person
to give you an answer?  Dude, this ain't Chatham where they actually HAVE
dedicated employees willing to delve into your request for information. Summing
up: you're the Loser. You're just writing because you can, and for no other
reason.

By the way,no one has to allow ANYONE, state, federal or local onto or into
their property at any time without reason for search. And as far as the poster
using the word "Loose" instead of "Lose," well that sort of thing happens when
one types quickly. If I were to comment for cash on the educational level of
everyone who posted a skewed blog here I'd have a full time job if I based it on
spelling skills.
7:58 am edt 

Re: Shank Painter Laundromat is a Joke

"...will have to continue using the facilities all summer however, I
will boycott          store until something is done withe this dump. Anyone have
any better ideas?"


Clarence: don't black out the name of                      store in this
discussion! 
                                                                                                        
                                                                                                        
                                                                                                       
 
This is truly a case about the rich screwing with the poor once again. He built
the place, he made a       deal with the town and he alone should be brought to
light and to the public eye for his morally deprived transgressions.

Do not buy your       at his store until he cleans up his laundromat. Enough is
enough.
7:51 am edt 

Annual Reminder: Flag Hanging

Dear Portuguese Flag Waivers

Please fly your flags upside right. The flat side of the center shield should be
on the top side of the flag and the rounded side of the shield should be on the
lower side of the flag.

While we are doing much better than last year, it is still an embarrassment how
many flags are upside down for the Portuguese Festival.

muito obrigado
7:48 am edt 

Re: Townie Discounts

Re: "Remember when Townie discounts were intended to give a break to
those people who worked here in town?   I hardly think somebody who can afford
to own multiple homes needs a discount at Tea dance."


Let's just call it what it is. These aren't townie passes, they're VIP passes.
One local weekly club night (run by someone who isn't a year round resident) is
actually SELLING "townie" passes for sixty bucks, knowing full well that most of
the people buying them are New Yorkers and wealthy summer people, not the
working class year rounders. Another popular weekly show now features VIP
seating for an extra fee, so don't bother getting there early and standing in
line - all the good seats are going to the rich folks anyway!

Thankfully the A House still provides free admission to locals. The people
working the door are local year rounders and they know who is and who isn't a
"townie."
7:46 am edt 

Re: My God What Happened?

"This is a town that boasts endlessly about getting its tax rate
approved on time. We are hardly respected on the financial front."


Progress on the financial front drives you nuts doesn't it?  Do you have it in
for someone at town hall or in the finance department?  We got the tax rate
approved on time once, now it should happen every year to little fanfare.  But,
you want to make it an issue.  I guess the DOR guy calling the town manager to
complement her on the progress made is not a big deal either, but it's better
than the state threatening to take over the town for poor management.  Hmmmmm,
wonder who was in charge back then.

I don't really care whether we are respected on the financial front, but I'm
glad we are no longer a joke.
12:53 am edt 

Thursday, June 14, 2012

Re: Building Committee

Please the only reason there is a building committee is because the
selectmen failed shoving a $14,000,000 project down our throats.

The Building Committee   was not formed for the town hall project.
Guess they didn't need a board of architects to look at blueprints etc.
3:26 pm edt 

Re: Building Committee

Building Committee A good mix of Professionals

Good choice. This should be a dynamite committee with smart people, strategic
thinkers, planners and bright minds. I'm impressed.
3:23 pm edt 

Smoking Regulations

All this chatter about smoking regulations. Is this really anything more than a
battle between two big fish in a small pond? Betta fighting fish who can type?
3:21 pm edt 

Guest Houses and B&Bs

Who allows smoking and does anyone allow cigars? I will send them
business as we are frequently asked.
3:09 pm edt 

Townie Pass

I went to Boatslip to try and get a "Townie" Pass last weekend for Tea
Dance. The staff did not recognize me although Ive lived here 26 years, 9 of
which were year round. Currently I rent for the season. They wanted a paystub
(ha Im paid cash, no fool) or a utility bill with a Provincetown address in my
name... I rent a small room for the season which I pay $8,000 for - I have no
utilities in my name.  I just thought it all very amusing. They make it easier
for people who dont actually need the pass.  Remember when Townie discounts were
intended to give a break to those people who worked here in town?   I hardly
think somebody who can afford to own multiple homes needs a discount at Tea
dance.


3:01 pm edt 

Guest Houses and B&B's

I'm not saying that they can't allow
smoking on their properties but they
should be part of the procedure that
restaurants, bars, hotels and inns are
mandated.
If they have a food service license
they should comply. The BOH need to
include them as well.
2:59 pm edt 

Re: Building Committee

"Building Committee Architects in bed with Town Architects"

What town architects are being referred to?  I didn't think the town had
architects on its payroll.
2:57 pm edt 

Re: Stacked Building Committee

A previous blogger said who was appointed to the building committee.  Where are
all the architects - Mr. Murray, Mr. Cohen, someone from the museum, a retired
cop.  Who are the architects?
2:55 pm edt 

Building Committee Selection

I can't speak to Mr. Murray nor can I speak to Mr. Cohen or whomever was
appointed from the museum but I believe the retired cop, if it's who I think it
is, will not be a shoe-in and cannot be bribed or bought.  She is a
conscientious taxpayer who is careful as to how the tax dollars are spent.
2:46 pm edt 

Shank Painter Laundromat is a Joke

This as been the worst trip to the laundromat in town ever. What was a godsend
six summers ago as turned into a rundown nightmare. Machine broken, laundry
dispenser broken, coin machine broken, dirty floors and luke warm driers. Just
because this is the only game in town doesn't mean we as customers don't have
rights. I will have to continue using the facilities all summer however, I will
boycott          store until something is done withe this dump. Anyone
have any better ideas?
2:45 pm edt 

Dog Park Use

Wrong. Everyone with well trained dogs uses the park as well as people that
drive from around the Cape to use it (first hand comments from those there)
which also means they spend money at B&B's & restaurants AND shops. It's one of
the best looking, best maintained and best functioning dog parks in the United
States.  So your negative comments will continue to go unto deaf ears as we
say,,, 3 Cheers to Candace, 3 Cheers to Candace AND... THREE CHEERS CANDACE!!!!
2:41 pm edt 

Re: Beware!

"The  troops are out to assess your
Properties. Close the doors. They
are not only dangerous but uneducated.
They look like Mormans with "I pads".
Tell them to come back later.
Loose them!"



You call people uneducated but can't even correctly spell 'lose.'  That's
pathetic.  Where did you get your degree?


2:37 pm edt 

Re: Building Committee

"Our          Selectmen have stacked the Building Committee with
architects! I don't trust the newly formed Building Committee! These architects
will be in bed with the Town's architects and that $14,000,000 price tag will be
even bigger! Wait and see!"



Wait- you're angry because there are trained architects on a committee whose
mission is to work with architects, read blueprints and deal with construction? 
Who do you think SHOULD be on there?  So many who write on this blog are jealous
and bitter, and it's making you irrational.  Why NOT have skilled people who can
actualoloy read blueprints assigned to a committee whose job is to read
blueprints?   Your paranoia is showing again, and it's not pretty.


2:35 pm edt 

Re: Beware

"...but uneducated.  They look like Mormans with "I pads".
Tell them to come back later.
Loose them!"

You call them uneducated and then say 'loose them' in the same post?  It's not a
good reflection on your education level.
2:31 pm edt 

Re: Building Committee

Only men were appointed as regular members to the Building Committee!
The bias of a BOS with 80% men couldn't be more apparent. They gave the lowly
alternate position to a woman.

It's a guy's thing in the Selectmen's small minds. But half of those if not more
are women who will be voting! The Selectmen have already disenfranchised the
majority vote.

Nice going             !
2:29 pm edt 

Re: My God What Happened?

"The town is audited every year. It is in better fiscal shape than any
time in the past 10 years or more.  It's gone from the state's financial watch
list to one that is respected."



There has been improvements, but let's not go overboard. This is a town that
boasts endlessly about getting its tax rate approved on time. We are hardly
respected on the financial front. As an example, our major public works projects
and schools remain very troubled.

2:22 pm edt 

Re: Building Committee


Clarence can you please post the names of those who were chosen by the BOS, I
was fortunate enogh to be chosen to volunteer my time for this important
committee, I am not an architect but a private citizen and year round business
owner, need to dispel these posts that are incorrect so we don't start this
journey on a negative inflammatory note please.

Rick Murray
2:18 pm edt 

Building Committee Members

Looks like it is Donald Murphy, Rick Murray, Tom Coen, Leif Limquist and Kevin
Shea for the full committee and sheila McGuiseness as the alternate.

I think they picked the best people for the job. good choices and good luck to
all!
2:16 pm edt 

Re: Beware

"The  troops are out to assess your Properties. Close the doors. They
are not only dangerous but uneducated."


And you are an      .  When someone knocked on my door I called and asked town
hall who they were and if they were authorized.  yes, they are authorized and in
fact are doing what is required by the state.  I think that would make YOU the
uneducated one.
2:14 pm edt 

Re: Building Committee

As Candace and Michael learned, if you want the Selectmen to appoint you to a
high visibility board, best not to insult the Selectmen individually or
collectively.
2:12 pm edt 

Re: Building Committee

"Our sneaking Selectmen have stacked the Building Committee with
architects! I don't trust the newly formed Building Committee!"


Frequently when someone is always mistrusting it's because they have the same
tendecies as the people they mistrust.  One assumes someone is doing something
behind everyone's back because they do it themselves.  One assumes others are
stealing because they've done it themselves...etc
9:55 am edt 

Neon Lights

"It could be so simple"

Now that "NEON" is legal, all businesses that allow smoking should have "SMOKING
ACCEPTED" in neon.
9:53 am edt 

Wednesday, June 13, 2012

Beware!

The  troops are out to assess your
Properties. Close the doors. They
are not only dangerous but uneducated.
They look like Mormans with "I pads".
Tell them to come back later.
Loose them!

11:06 am edt 

No Nonsense News

Gosh I love the no nonsense news!
11:04 am edt 

Building Committee

Our sneaking Selectmen have stacked the Building Committee with
architects! I don't trust the newly formed Building Committee! These architects
will be in bed with the Town's architects and that $14,000,000 price tag will be
even bigger! Wait and see!
11:02 am edt 

Question: Who Did Get Appointed to the Building Committee?

Can someone tell me who was selected after all these many weeks, if not months.
thanks.
12:00 am edt 

Tuesday, June 12, 2012

Re: Board of Health

". . . The Board of Health is used to protect guest house owners'
incomes and property values. . ."


Now that is silly.  The chair's guest house is               (you can google it)
and you think the Board is protecting him?  They are doing a poor job of
protection if that's the case.
11:59 pm edt 

Re: "My God What Happened?"

Your statements make no sense.  This town is extremely gay-friendly, even
gay-dominated.  The majority of BOS are gay, a significant number of town staff
in positions of prominence are gay, and many business owners.

What rights are being taken away?  This is the most liberal place on the Cape,
and possibly in the state.

The town is audited every year. It is in better fiscal shape than any time in
the past 10 years or more.  It's gone from the state's financial watch list to
one that is respected.

What do you mean about the correlation to Watergate?  I've seen no indication
of scandal.

Town Hall was falling down from neglect. Now it's a national award-winning
showcase.  The library landscaping is beautiful and user-friendly.  What is your
problem???  Do you not want a town that is beautiful and a tourist attraction?

Are your rights being violated because you can't smoke anywhere you want? 
Excuse us for wanting a healthier town.  To think that the smoking bans are
hiding something sinister is tragically paranoid.

"The town cares more about dogs than people"????? Where do you come up with this
stuff?

Your comments make no sense, just a rambling diatribe.  You need some actual
problems; then you'd have something to focus your scattered thoughts on.
11:56 pm edt 

It Could be so Simple.....

How about a sign in each establishments window that says...
We allow smoking or sorry no smoking. Everything is a choice
In life,let the individual or employee decide if they want to work
Or patronize the place . The owners will then see in sales if they
Should go either way!
11:52 pm edt 

Building Committee

5 people plus one alternate:
Rick Murray, Tom Cohen, the woman from who works at the art association, the
woman who was a retired cop, Lief, and another man.

Neither Candice nor Michael were chosen.
11:51 pm edt 

It's Official

Cape Cod Bear safely caught in Welfleet
last night. I guess he left Provincetown
when he found out that he could not
be a "Smokey Bear". He should have
checked into the Beacon Light where
he could have breakfast, cocktail hour
and smoke while conversing with the
Chair of the BOH.
11:48 pm edt 

Smoking Ban in Provincetown!

Perhaps the board of health should have a ban on the purchase of cigarettes in
Provincetown.  They should not allow any stores to sell cigarettes, period. 
This is what they will probably try next.  And if one member happens to not like
a certain food type because it makes them sick then let's just ban that too!
Where's the end?
11:46 pm edt 

Re: Dogs

Instead of just complaining about things you don't like in
Provincetown, why don't you do something about it?

Start a campaign about the things you do care about and build public consensus.
Write letters to the editor, make public statements at the Selectmen's meetings
and any other Town board that might support your ideas of a better Provincetown,
start a petition, got the idea yet on how to effect change?

But please just stop your whining and attacking our dogs who are our family
members!


11:40 pm edt 

New Bike Shuttle Service

Great News!The New Bike Shuttle service starts on June 16 2012!

http://www.capecodrta.org/bike-shuttle.htm
12:07 pm edt 

If You're Not Here Then You shouldn't be on a Board.....

....Especially a regulatory board. If you are out of town for the winter, then you
should not be on a town board. that is too many absences when boards must make
decisions. It is the prerogative of the chair to accept or not accept these
unexcused abasences. Look like Mark Phillips like hav ing a member who is not a
member and it's fine with his sense of how to do business. Wrong. the chair
should not accept Ken jansen's absences that happen over and over and over.

Poor way to run the board of health.
12:06 pm edt 

Dogs

"Seems people care more for dogs than humans.  What a sad commentary on
a town without pity.  Just saying!"



People can love BOTH dogs and humans, it's not one or the other.  I'm sorry
living in Provincetown isn't the utopia you thought it would be, but I think you
are off base in the areas you are attacking.  You may want to look a little
deeper.
12:03 pm edt 

Re: "My God, What Happened"

"The town is in desperate need of an audit.  Watergate became a scandal
for something far less. And now this smoking malarky.  If you ask me, it's
hiding something far more sinister.  Let's start with the renovation of Town
Hall....the library landscaping..."



I'm not sure what you think an audit will uncover.  And I'm pretty sure the town
already has an annual audit as required by law.  The 'smoking malarky' is hiding
something far more sinister in finances?  How in the heck are the two tied
together?  A guest house owner and his committee go overboard on smoking
regulations and therefore there must be something sinister about the Town Hall
renovations?

You can't make this stuff up.
11:50 am edt 

Board of Health

Why would you ever expect that the Board of Health would actually hold its own
members to the attendance regulations or charter? The Board of Health is used to
protect guest house owners' incomes and property values. The is no way the Board
Chair is going to call out another guest house owner and part time resident, for
their flagrant annual lack of attendance at winter meetings. How could he expect
poor Ken to drive all the way from Cambridge for the meetings? Why would Ken
bother? He knows the chair will dutifully make sure nothing goes through that
would hurt guest house owners. Oh by the way the same guest house owners that
are trying to sell their property to wealthy part timers and eliminate the guest
house.
11:41 am edt 

Traffic Police

The traffic police are doing a GREAT JOB in Lopes Square.
11:39 am edt 

Business at Rt 6 and Race Point Rd

The Building Committee in advance of its official appointment, has held several
meetings. One of the most promising ideas is to place a retail business at the
prime corner of Rt 6 and Race Point Rd to pay for the new municipal showplace.
Yet the Selectmen appear unable to reach a consensus on what business to open.

John Santos is jonesing for an annex of the VFW bar, Erik Yingling wants a drive
tru pasta restaurant. David McChesney craves a Chocolate, Caviar and Cheese
shop. Austin Knight is pounding his gavel for a Dunkin Donuts franchise. While
Elaine Anderson is smiling for a souvenir shop that sells only items with red
hearts:)

Reports from multiple sources suggest discussions about the retail outlet will
remain secret until a decision has been made, but keen observers might get some
clues from refreshment choices at tonight's BOS meeting. We should be looking to
see if Knight is eating caviar, or Anderson is drinking  from a flask or most
improbably, McChesney is eating a donut.

Reporting from Cumbie Farms, this is Nonsense News.


11:37 am edt 

"My God, What Happened"

You summed it up Perfectly!!!!!! So many feel
the same way. The current TM, a few BOS, Building Inspector -need to be exposed.
They are nothing but self serving to themselves and their little circle-This
town stinks of      .
11:32 am edt 

Dog Park Again...

'Tis the season.  She is back and now we have to see the posts planted on this
site to pat herself on the back.  We are over the dog park!  Most of us do not
use this great waste land and do not want to read about the master mind's self
promotion here.

11:30 am edt 

Monday, June 11, 2012

Re: Environmental Issue

"I don't have a cell phone, but I'm taking my camera to the beach from
now on and I'm taking the phone number of the ranger so I can borrow somoene's
phone to call the authorities."



That would be a fine idea cept you won't cell phone reception at the beach.  I
would say you need to be able to run fast, bring a gun or don't go.
12:29 am edt 

Re: Environmental Issue

Re: "Will the owner of the big obnoxious gas guzzling land rover
.....and stop parking illegally.... all over town."



Here, here. She is most obnoxious at the Post Office, parking at the entrance 2
feet out from the fence. Then never makes eye contact as she cuts you off. Curb
your Range Rover.


12:24 am edt 

My God, What Happened??

I first moved to Provincetown in 2000.  I loved it.  I finally felt free to be
gay with no paranoia.  I've recently broke free. Being gay in this town is no
longer safe.  The rules, the laws, and general chaos of town government has
gotten out of hand.  Everyone seems to want their rights at the expense of
everyone elses.  What happened to live and let live?  What happened to
everyone's rights?

I hate to say it, but the last 11 years were a horror show to watch.  BOS
members turning one another in, affordable housing shams by people in positions
of power, a contractor with unscrupulous ways of doing business, nepotism, as
well as scams to get rid of people on certain boards.

The town is in desperate need of an audit.  Watergate became a scandal for
something far less. And now this smoking malarky.  If you ask me, it's hiding
something far more sinister.  Let's start with the renovation of Town
Hall....the library landscaping..a new police station..this from a town that
always cries poor mouth.

Seems people care more for dogs than humans.  What a sad commentary on a town
without pity.  Just saying!
12:18 am edt 

Sunday, June 10, 2012

Dog Park

There are a lot of breeds that don't do well off a leash on the beach or in the
woods.  The Dog Park is an awesome safe environment for them.
4:06 pm edt 

Re: Dog Park

Because of the dog park and promoting Provincetown as a dog friendly
place more tourists have come to Ptown. Two years ago, I actually increased the
number of pet friendly rooms available at my inn because I was turning people
away. Many of my guests use the beaches and dog park when they visit.

So yes, it has made a difference for me.


4:00 pm edt 

Environmental Issue

Will the owner of the big obnoxious gas guzzling land rover trade it
in for something less polluting (bicycle) and stop parking illegally (5 minutes
at a time) all over town.
1:22 pm edt 

Re: The Carnival at the Dog Park Was Awesome!

Like I`m going to walk my dog next to a highway & a cumberland
farms.Really...when we are surrounded by such incredible beauty ,that money
could have been used for useful causes
1:19 pm edt 

Dog Attack Foiled

Last summer I was walking along the beach and I went by 2 people and their dog
and they were all close together and looked very cute and cuddly. I walked by
and smiled.

The next day I was walking along the beach close by the water and these folks
were further away from me. The dog saw me and started snarling and barking and
raced towards me at break-neck speed.

The only thing that saved me was that the dog hurt his paw and started limping.

I don't have a cell phone, but I'm taking my camera to the beach from now on and
I'm taking the phone number of the ranger so I can borrow somoene's phone to
call the authorities.

It is the owners who are at fault not the dog.
1:18 pm edt 

Re: Board of Health

Let's Be consistent

If you serve food and can't have people smoke because it is unhealthy, then all
who serve food and have people smoke should be bound by the same rules. If a
restaurant has to follow this too strict regulation, then all guest houses--and
I mean all--who severve food and allow their guests to smoke should also be
bound by the same rules. If you serve food, then no smoking in the guest house.

the rules for a busines, be it a restaurant or a B & B, must be the same. and
have all B & Bs go through the board of Health inspection and agreements for who
can smoke and exactly where on the property they can.

You cannot have two sets of rules for health. the same holds for all businesses.
1:16 pm edt 

Re: Board of Health

I still don't understand how a full time member can be absent
all winter long. Ken Jensen, stay in town or resign. There is
a very capable alternate that can fill your chair. You are
in violation of the Charter. The Chair should have addressed
this, after all, he was on the charter  Commission. He can't
blame lack of knowledge.Time for a recall by the BOS,
the appointees of the BOH.
And yes I agree, why are guest houses and B&B's excluded
from the new smoking regs. ? If the have food licenses
They should comply.

Mark Phillips, Beacon Light, you serve breakfast, are you
in compliance?

Had enough
11:39 am edt 

Re: The Carnival at the Dog Park Was Awesome!

You really think the dog park is going to affect tourism in this town
when we have such beautiful beaches for the dogs to run on and play in the
water?  Cluephone!
11:23 am edt 

Building Permits

Why does ptown have the highest building permit fees on cape cod????
9:08 am edt 

Re: The Carnival at the Dog Park Was Awesome!

Thank you 'Dog Lover' for the post and letting folks know about
Pilgrim Bark Park's new partnership with TD Bank through their Affinity Program!
The program will help maintain Pilgrim Bark Park, an important community and
tourist resource for years to come which will also help our local economy by
further increasing Provincetown's share of the lucrative pet tourism market. So,
please consider 'tagging' your account to Pilgrim Bark Park or, if you don't
have an account at TD Bank, consider opening one!

Our first Carnival of the Dogs Sponsored by TD Bank was attended by over 500
people and their dogs!

Dozens of local, regional and national businesses and people participated in the
Carnival by donating services, time and products to help make it a great
success!

Thank you!

Candace


9:05 am edt 

Re: Board of Health

"If the Board of Health is going to adopt regulations they should be
able toanswer questions regarding the regulations they have adopted.  If
they cannotanswer the questions then they should not be allowed to make
regulations."


I couldn't agree more. Mark Phillips, the chair of the BOH, got a bee in his
bonnet about smoking two years ago and rammed through regulations that directly
affected many businesses in town. People spent thousands of dollars to adhere to
these new, strict, guidelines and for what?  There is no gain from banning
smoking OUTSIDE other than to posture a "win" on the part of an over zealous
tyrant. Smokers are a part of our community and to push them aside as if their
money is worth less than anyone else's is just silly.

So what are we left with?  Restauranteurs acting paranoid over a regulation
that, in reality, can never truly be enforced and patrons shaking their heads at
the overwhelming stupidity at our Board of Health--and our town in general. What
was once called "the freest town in America" is now branded as being one of the
most simplistic Nanny States in the Commonwealth. Get rid of Phillips, repeal
the ban and return business to usual, which one may recall from last season, was
just fine.

Time for the stupidity to stop.

9:03 am edt 

Board of Health

If a guest house / B&B offers breakfast, then I assume that they
need a food service license and yearly  health inspection .
Why are they not included in the new smoking regulations?
Oh, I know. The Chair owns a guest house, serves breakfast
and allows smoking outdoors. This is not fair. These businesses
should go thru the same procedure as do restaurants, bars,
hotels and inns.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

9:00 am edt 

The Carnival at the Dog Park Was Awesome!

Thanks Candance and Deb!!!!!!
If you bank at TD tell them your a friend of the Bark
Park and they will donate to the park after reaching
50 friends!

Dog Lover
12:18 am edt 

Board of Health meeting of May 17th

If the Board of Health is going to adopt regulations they should be able to
answer questions regarding the regulations they have adopted.  If they cannot
answer the questions then they should not be allowed to make regulations.
12:15 am edt 

Saturday, June 9, 2012

Bear in Provincetown

Are they crazy, letting a Bear run loose in town. I see a hugh law
suit coming, but that's OK the town seems to have plenty of money for everything
else. What's a few more Million to the tax payers.
11:48 pm edt 

Police Station

"Maybe if we keep throwing money at the funeral home it will become a
safe, secure, proper police station."



Throwing what money at it?  Last I knew we didn't vote any, how can they
suddenly come up with the money?
11:46 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

 ". .and how's the new fincom working out?"


I don't think the new FinCom has met yet, but from what I've heard a couple of
individual members ( you could easily guess who ) are going out on their
self-appointed missions.  One is going after the Pier and another now fashions
himself as a fire prevention expert and is pushing to retro fit the funeral
home, oops sorry, the police station with fire prevention stuff.  Maybe if we
keep throwing money at the funeral home it will become a safe, secure, proper
police station.
6:22 pm edt 

Bear News and Bare News in Two Fashions!

First, as far as we know, the bear is still on the loose.  Does anyone know what
happened at the Monument?  Did they manage to capture it?  If not, what are they
waiting for, for it to end up hurting someone.

Now for the bare news,  not so much interesting to read except the picture of
the monument with the bear climbing up was funny.

What's happening with the Building Committee, and how's the new fincom working
out?
12:55 pm edt 

Dear Nonsense News
 
You forgot the part where the BOS propose a $650,000 study to create a $14
million habitat for the bear.  No bear should have to s**t in the woods.

- Peace Out
2:49 am edt 

Just Watched the Health Board Meeting of May 17th on PTV

A great example of a board making a ordinance,smoking in this case for
Food service/ bars,but can not give the owners of these establishments
Knowledgable answers on any aspect of their ordinance. Rick Murray
Tried,but failed.
1:26 am edt 

Friday, June 8, 2012

Re: Nonsense News

Nonsense  News is great fun. More please.
7:38 pm edt 

Nonsense is Goodsense News

Like what I'm reading. funny and ironic. Thanks for the laughs. Much
appreciated. Much fun.
5:36 pm edt 

Just Love the Bear on the Monument

What a delight. this is so good. Love his little face among the monumet stones.
he also has such good taste. I'd go to Pepe's too after I climb the monument.
5:35 pm edt 

Nonsense News
The non-sense news, like last weeks Banner cartoon are both excellent
examples of great satire. Keep it up in the spirit of past political satire.
3:34 pm edt 

Nonsense News

"Out of our Honey Pot Mr. Bear" Town Executives Demand


The globally famous bear was seen at 4:00 this morning scouting out a new den on
Ryder Street. Being smarter than the average bear, our ursine wash ashore
discovered the parking spaces in the Ryder Street lot were seldom used.

As word spread that the the widely popular bear was opting to live in the Ryder
Street Parking Lot, municipal employees far and wide were heard to yell "Out of
our Honey Pot! BAD BEAR!" .

As officials from the Building and Grounds Department prepared a report titled, 
"Options and Recommendations: Reserved Parking for the Honorable Chairman of the
Board of Selectmen.  A Chairman Only Designated Parking Space Worthy of a
Beemer" the bear appeared to take no notice and began preparing housekeeping for
the new den.

Thinking ahead,  The BOS Chairman nominated a delegation of gay bears to meet
with the real bear to be sure all options being presented by Building and
Grounds were agreeable to Mr Bear. The Ursine Command Center has worried that if
annoyed, Mr Bear might huff and puff and blow the award winning Town Hall down.

Meanwhile, The Board of Selectmen has begun advertising vacancies on the Wash
Ashore Wildlife Committee for appointment to terms beginning no early than 2015.

Reporting from the Ursine Emergency Command Center, this is Nonsense News.
3:32 pm edt 

Can We Focus on the Bear Instead of the Dogs

Enough on the dogs. Let the Dogs go to the dogs. I'd rather see a bear carnival
but it seems there is only one candidate for that position. Well, what can I
say!
3:29 pm edt 

The Bear is Great!

The town is enamored with this black bear. I love this picture. thanks for the
humor which I appreciate here. A few laughs are good in a town that seems to
have lost its sense of humor. Why? I don't know. Perhaps bad leadershhip in time
does all in. We lose excitement, enthusiasm and hope for the future. We are at a
shallow sense of what is possible and that deadens a town.
3:26 pm edt 

I Like the Nonsense News

I don'tknow who is writing it but I happen to like it. Continute with the
nonsense news.
3:25 pm edt 

Thursday, June 7, 2012

BlackBearinProvincetown.JPG
10:48 pm edt 

Re: "Nonsense News."

I agree - no more "nonsense news."

It's not funny, clever or interesting. And certainly not why people read this
blog. If I want dumb humor I'll read MAD magazine.
10:40 pm edt 

Chamber of Commerce

If I belong to the Ptown Chamber of Commerce do any of my dues dollars
go to the national Chamber of Commerce?  I'd have to question whether to
continue the local membership if any of my dollars support the national
organization which has been hijacked by the right wing.
1:27 pm edt 

Re: "Nonsense News"


Okay, this site has jumped the shark. First Clarence takes someone to
task for "dribble", and now he seems to think we all think his "nonsense news"
is oh so clever... I do like how he posted all those complimentary posts
regarding the first "nonsense news"... somehow I think he wrote them himself.
What a bloated egomaniac he is!!
Not that you will print this, I just want you to know that many of us in town     
                                                                                                            
                                                                                                            

1:25 pm edt 

Banner Article States Property Owner Fined For Asbestos

Does the local board of health not have authority over asbestos removal in
properties?
9:36 am edt 

Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Re: Bear Sighted in Provincetown! - Nonsense News

BREAKING NEWS! BEAR TO QUALIFY FOR LIFETIME HEALTH CARE! TOWN MANAGER OPENS
URSINE COMMAND CENTER.

BREAKING NEWS BREAKING NEWS  BREAKING NEWS

If the Bear spends another night in Provincetown, the Bear will qualify for
retiree health care benefits from the Town. These benefits are estimate to have
a lifetime value of $450,000.

Senior Town officials, working from a makeshift Emergency Ursine Command Center
(undisclosed location) are persuading the bear to sleep on the Union Field well
site (Truro) but vote in Provincetown. It is hoped this would avert worsening
the looming financial crisis. Acting quickly, and without regard for protocol,
The Town Manager has formed a task force to price out the cost benefits, and
another task force to explain it to the  Selectmen.

Reporting from Foss Woods,this is Nonsense News.



5:30 pm edt 

Re: Bear Sighted in Provincetown!


Maybe the bear is just here a tad early for "bear" week.

4:35 pm edt 

Bear Sighted in Provincetown
 2:55pm Jun 6
Police: Cape bear sighted in Provincetown | CapeCodOnline.com
www.capecodonline.com
The Cape's wandering bear has apparently made it to Provincetown after more than a week that has tak...
4:09 pm edt 

Re: Bear on the Loose!

NOW IT'S IN PTOWN!! RUN FOR THE HILLS!!
4:02 pm edt 

Re: Something Darkly This Way Comes?

Face it, it's a nice little system people have going and it's all
legal.  Work for the town seven months maximum, then play or do whatever for
five months and collect unemployment.  If I heard correctly the town pays over
$200,000 a year in unemployment to seasonal workers and there's nothing anyone
can do about it.
4:01 pm edt 

Bear on the Loose!


Re: Something Darkly This Way Comes?


YA, IT'S CALLED A BEAR and was at Rt 6 and Conwell this morning per PPD
3:59 pm edt 

Bear on the Loose!

Re: Something Darkly This Way Comes?


YA, IT'S CALLED A BEAR AND IT WAS SEEN IN TRURO LAST NIGHT!!
1:14 pm edt 

Re: Something Darkly This Way Comes?

I know about the 16 week rule but many states are changing this to 9
or fewer months. Ma. is one of the states considering this because of the
over-burden the 16 week rule places on the states unemployment funds that go to
people who are unexpectedly out of work. Workers who have a track record of
going back to the same job season after season will probably loose benefits
because they have the expectation of returning to thee same job Just as teachers
do.
11:53 am edt 

Re: Something Darkly This Way Comes?

Massachusetts has had a Seasonal Certification Program for Employers since 1993.
The following link will bring you to a summary of the program:

http://www.mass.gov/lwd/unemployment-insur/resources/forms-and-publications/seasonal-certification-for-employers/

One of the key elements is that a seasonal business, by definition, is one that
runs for 16 weeks or less. This probably doesn't apply to most businesses in
town, including those run by the Town.
9:52 am edt 

Re: Something Darkly This Way Comes?

The article is correct.  Workeres that work in Massachusetts
businesses that are certified by the state as being seasonal (among other things
that means in operation for 16 weeks or less) have never been able to collect
unemployment.  But most businesses in Provincetown that we consider seasonal are
still not certified as seasonal by the state because they are open more than 16
weeks.  See Section 1A of Chapter 151 of the MA General Laws.  This means that
while a business may close during the winter, it is still not certified as
seasonal unless it is open less than 16 weeks.  Most businesses here are not
considered seasonal by the state, so their workers can and do collect
unemployment during the off-season.

9:50 am edt 

Re: Something Darkly This Way Comes?

Google " Mass seasonal workers" under google news."

This person seems to be correct? How can this apply to Provincetown?

"In Massachusetts, Colorado and Pennsylvania seasonal workers can no longer apply
for benefits unless they're laid off during their typical working season."


A ski instructor, for example, could only collect unemployment if they lost their job
in the winter.
12:22 am edt 

Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Re: Something Darkly This Way Comes?

CNN reported last week that seasonal workers  in many states will no longer be
eligable for benefits unless the worker looses the job during the season and
then the benefits will only extent til the end of that season. Is this true for
Massachusetts?


I am not sure about Massachusetts specifically as that is mostly the short term
insurance part of the benefits. However, the Federal portion (long term) is up
for major revisions and new enforcement actions will be deployed.

Look for lifetime limits, income caps, and multi-state fraud detection, fraud
detection aimed at employers as well as the 'unemployed', new hurdles to qualify
for seasonal employment etc etc.

Some of the changes passed in February, more are up in November.

Google for more details.
6:18 pm edt 

Re: Something Darkly This Way Comes?

Here is link to the cnn piece on seasonal workers and unemployment
insurance benefits:  http://money.cnn.com/2012/05/31/news/economy/seasonal-unemployment-benefits/
6:15 pm edt 

Street Paving - They Have Made It All the Way to Youngs Court !

I guess some folks would rather keep complaining about things even
when what they love to complain about (the condition of our roads due to
infrastructure work) is OBVIOUSLY  being corrected. Maybe if you stopped living
your life in front of the computer and got outside for a drive or better yet a
bike ride then you would know that paving began a few weeks ago on the east end
of Bradford.... They have made it all the way to Youngs Court and today are
replanting the grass on the side of the road... You will probably have major
issues with the shade of black that the roads were paved in, so your welcome...
There's your next pointless baseless useless thing to complain about.
I have to wonder... Would you prefer waterline breaks in the middle of season?
Personally I am so pleased that the unseen "bones" of the town have finally been
addressed and upgraded... You need to dig and make a mess sometimes to fix
something...

And no, I do not work for the town or public works, I just appreciate a job well
done and also understand that sometimes things take time... Not to mention that
if one stops SPEEDING then really the roads have been not too bad
1:30 pm edt 

Please Stop Complaining About Everything

We live in the most amazing place. If somethong does not work for you get
involved and change it. Especially the idiots complaining about the BOS. Get
involved, go to meetings, and vote.

Enough!
1:25 pm edt 

Something Darkly This Way Comes?

CNN reported last week that seasonal workers  in many states will no
longer be eligable for benefits unless the worker looses the job during the
season and then the benefits will only extent til the end of that season. Is
this true for Massachusetts?
1:23 pm edt 

Re: Road Paving

Do you ever leave your house? if not take a trip east on Bradford and enjoy some
crow... jeeze you sound like a      as I watch the crews pave the roads in front
of my house... stop complaining you    
1:19 pm edt 

Re: Road Paving

"So did i miss something? i thought they were going to pave the roads
here in town not paint lines on them."



Yes, you missed alot.
1:17 pm edt 

In This Together

Let's keep remembering we are all in this together.  These are
difficult economic times for all and our debts are for not paying for
maintaining our beautiful town structures as they needed it.  As homeowners we
always forget it is just not coming up with the money for the mortgages, taxes
and insurance.  Maintenance is that added burden that is sometimes too easy to
put off.  We are are learning as a town, state, country and world that debt is a
killer, and good times don't last forever. To solve it we have to keep looking
forward and developing strategies to slowly pay it down which brings it  back to
all of us who choose to live in this wonderful spit of land.  Together we can do
it. We just need to keep faith. Those who serve all want to be responsible.

Ray Struble
1:13 pm edt 

Monday, June 4, 2012

Road Paving?

So did i miss something? i thought they were going to pave the roads
here in town not paint lines on them...

10:57 pm edt 

Re: When Will This BOS Group Meet?

I went to Eric's face book page. Nothing about what is going on with
the building committee just a lot of BOS agenda posts, congrats to new FinCom
appointees and the Rec Dept. Really, nothing of interest to any concerns posted
here or being talked about round town.

Hope that changes otherwise what's the point?
10:54 pm edt 

News Alert

Very creative and fun.  I hope we get updates from Nonsense News

Thanks for posting.
5:24 pm edt 

Re: When Will This BOS Group Meet?

"This is beyond belief. How long does it take for this group to
convene a meeting"


Get used to it, Austin Knight's reign will be known for inaction. While they
might choose the committee on June 11th it will take all summer to agree the
Committee's mission.
5:22 pm edt 

Re: When Will This BOS Group Meet?

"This is beyond belief. How long does it take for this group to convene
a meeting and finally--and I do mean finally--choose the building committee."


Let's ask Erik who is one of them.  I hear he has a Facebook page to keep his
peeps up to date, has he said anything as to why we don't have a building
committee?
3:49 pm edt 

When Will This BOS Group Meet?

This is beyond belief. How long does it take for this group to convene a meeting
and finally--and I do mean finally--choose the building committee.

this is such a sad take on this group. They can't even get this rather simple
act done.

I have so little hope in Austin as Chair. I thought he might do something and
what did he do? He voted to make        vice chair.

If this is the best that you can do Austin, count your days. You will be out in
eleven months. Give out your awards now and your "Let me thank..." because soon
you'll be back in the back of the bus.
3:00 pm edt 

Thanks so Much For the Laughs

I just loved the News alert. Just so perfect. I love that all the others with
privilege would be so concerned that they would lose their right to park as a
key person in town. Save the privileges above all else.

That was a great posting. thanks again for the laughs. that was a great piece!
2:57 pm edt 

Humorous Moment - Nonsense News

Good point! Thank you for reminding the webmaster of the mission
statement he helped craft or did he write it himself?

Maybe he needs to add well written prose not pertaining to the mission statement
accepted as well?
2:55 pm edt 

Re: And the Cost of This Award $9 Million

"The above quote is why the Bedard/Yingling election wasn't even
close.  The West End PR machine just doesn't get it. Watch out Santos & Knight."


Anyone who thinks the town's infrastructure can be maintained without tax
increases is out of touch with reality.  We did that for years and look where it
got us.  I don't live on the west end so I'm not sure who that is, but anyone
(including Yingling) who promises to improve infrastructure and doesn't
acknwledge taxes will have to go up to pay for it isn't being honest with
taxpayers.
2:52 pm edt 

Re: Humorous Moment - Nonsense News

Yes the Town Hall Nonsense really reflected the stated mission
statement on mypacc!!! Keep posting that non-dribble!

        Work to responsibly implement voters decisions made at town meetings
        and through the ballot box


       Establish and codify town laws which obligate town Selectmen to honor 
       voters decisions

  
       Work for accountability in town spending


       Require independent annual audits of key town departments

       Demand accurate estimation of projected costs to include Life Cycle 
       Costing: Debt Service + Operational expenses

       Implement a two-week cut-off date prior to any town meeting for which 
       modifications to Articles must be submitted and published

       Create a citizen committee to monitor major municipal department 
       contracts including Contractor/Bid selection process and contract closeout

       Advocate for leaner and more efficient town management


       Utilize voter and town employee input for proposed changes

       Eliminate redundant and/or surplus staffing

       Creatively combine town positions


       Campaign for responsible government operations


       Oppose mega-projects until indebtedness is lowered and fiscal 
       responsibility exists


       Define all project requirements and goals

       Measure the important parameters against cost

       Prioritize the parameters of all projects

       Simplify and make final assessment Cost vs Effectiveness


       Sponsor fair real estate assessments and promote lower tax rates


       Work to encourage an economically sustainable community


       Promote community cohesiveness through shared future vision








1:40 pm edt 

Re: Humorous Moment - Nonsense News

Why is the webmaster posting such nonsense against his earlier
indignation? Thou protests too much Clarence!

Town Hall Dribble


Webmaster Comment:

"Humorous Moment - Nonsense News" was worthy of posting given
the quality of the writing, which truly represented beautiful caricature as
opposed to "dribble".

1:09 pm edt 

Re: And the Cost of This Award $9 Million

"....maybe Provincetown isn't the right place for you.  If I can't afford to
live somewhere because the taxes are too high then I would find an area where
the taxes are lower."


The above quote is why the Bedard/Yingling election wasn't even close.  The West
End PR machine just doesn't get it. Watch out Santos & Knight.
1:05 pm edt 

Re: Thank You Clarence & Thank God This Isn't the Huffington Post!

"I didn't "self proclaim" anything. I just pointed out Clarence's
obvious use of the wrong word which he is too pompous to admit."


Have to agree on this one, Clarence used the wrong word but can't admit it.  Is
it a big deal?  Nope
8:45 am edt 

Humorous Moment - Nonsense News

NEWS ALERT-  YINGLING BREAKS PROTOCOL. SNUBS VIP PARKING

Selectman Erik Yingling rode a bicycle to Town Hall today. He declined to park
his bicycle in the Selectman's VIP space or display the VIP placard on his bike.
Instead Yingling placed the bike on bike rack one the west side of the award
winning Town Hall.

The Selectman have called an emergency Executive Session (Mass General Laws
40-29-a-i) to address this breach in decorum and protocol.

McChesney was heard to cry out, "does this mean I have to ride a bike too? Does
a motorcycle count? Might one get grease on one's pant leg? These are Prada
chinos!"

Simultaneously, the School Superintendent demanded a Selectman resolution
guaranteeing her reserved parking space would be preserved should the tradition
of free VIP parking crumble.

At last report, Town lawyers were expected to land momentarily at Provincetown
Municipal Airport and be shuttled with police escort to the Town Hall in the
Airport's blue-plate SUV limo.

Reporting live from Town Hall. This is Nonsense News.
8:43 am edt 

Re: And the Cost of This Award $9 Million

"We paid for it in blood and guts, in personal savings, in higher taxes and in
much suffering for many in town. "


What annoys me, is that we keep applying for awards. I wish Town Hall would
spend the time looking for new grants and programs rather than fishing around
for awards.


8:38 am edt 

Re: And the Cost of This Award $9 Million

"Closer to $210 for the average property. Or about $.55 per day  until
the year 2037."


I question your numbers, but even if they are correct an extra $210 a year is
not suffering.  And if you really think it is then maybe Provincetown isn't the
right place for you.  If I can't afford to live somewhere because the taxes are
too high then I would find an area where the taxes are lower.

8:35 am edt 

Re: Thank You Clarence & Thank God This Isn't the Huffington Post!

Re: "Some self proclaimed slobbering pseudo interlects can't outsmart
you try as they may on this blog."


I didn't "self proclaim" anything. I just pointed out Clarence's obvious use of
the wrong word which he is too pompous to admit.
8:32 am edt 

Re: And the Cost of This Award $ 9 Million

"Such drama, I don't know of anyone who is suffering because we did
town hall.  It cost what, maybe an extra $100 a year on the average tax bill? 
That's not suffering."



Talk about being disconnected!  Do you realize that there are many in town who
can barely make ends meet.  These people are living on fixed incomes.  A $100
annually to some of us is nothing, but I know that for many, $100 added to the
increases in the cost of living is a hardship.

Now I get why a 14.6 sticker price for the proposed police/DPW building was
viewed as acceptable!

8:29 am edt 

Thank You Clarence & Thank God This Isn't the Huffington Post!

 "Dribble" is the correct word (and  it's not on a basketball court either!) Some
self proclaimed slobbering pseudo interlects can't outsmart you try as they may
on this blog. Their stupidity is running rampant.  Keep it going. It's
entertaining to those of us who know better. As an aside: Hugs to Ray Stuble for
his upbeat,positive attitude. Bloggers,take a lesson from Ray.
12:08 am edt 

Sunday, June 3, 2012

Re: And the Cost of This Award $9 Million

"{town hall renovation} cost what, maybe an extra $100 a year on the average tax
bill?"


Closer to $210 for the average property. Or about $.55 per day  until the year
2037.
9:34 pm edt 

Re: And the Cost of This Award $9 Million

For years and years town residents didn't want to pay for maintenance
of the town.  Now they have no choice, it has to be done.  I have no sympathy
for those who refused to pay before when they were living above their means and
now cry poverty.
9:31 pm edt 

Re: And the Cost of This Award: $9 Million

The cost of Town Hall's renovation is a 11% property tax surcharge on
your (or your landlord's) property tax bill for the next 20 years.
9:28 pm edt 

Re: And the Cost of This Award: $9 Million

"We paid for it in blood and guts, in personal savings, in higher
taxes and in much suffering for many in town."


Such drama, I don't know of anyone who is suffering because we did town hall. 
It cost what, maybe an extra $100 a year on the average tax bill?  That's not
suffering.
7:00 pm edt 

And the Cost of This Award: $9 Million

I loved the cartoon. But there should have been some note that this award cost
the town $9 million. No wonder we received the award. We paid for it in blood
and guts, in personal savings, in higher taxes and in much suffering for many in
town.

The award should go to the many tax payers who paid for this parchment year
after year and they are still paying for it. And there is still more to come. It
isn't over yet!
3:59 pm edt 

Time to See David Gardner Take Control

Time to see Sharon take her retirement and wish her well. Time to say goodby and
let David Gardner tkae control. Then we could talk about five year plans. Then
we could talk of responsibility for jobs done or not done. Then we could have
accountability.

I look forward to this happening and soon.
3:57 pm edt 

Re: "On Top of Spaghetti"

"Come on guys/gals, show some respect for our town leaders.
Grow up . . ."


Show respect for the same town leader who shouted out from the floor that the
chair of the BOS was out or order?  You're joking right?
3:52 pm edt 

The Town is Always Quiet After Memorial Day

It's like a surprise every year but every year, the quiet reigns. We think:
they are here but no--they just showed up for the big weekeend and most will not
be back until the Portuguese Festival or the Fourth of July.

Glad to see the quiet and the silence. It's as if the land sighs and the sea
moves with its own quiet moments.

There will be more days like this. Let's all the enjoy the quiet, the meditative
moments and life in this small place. It's a joy.
3:50 pm edt 

PTV

I often watch the different board meetings on our local channel but
the filming of it is terrible. I could do better with my phone. What is wrong
with PTV. They do not even zoom in enough to see who is who. Can't the town hire
a company that knows what they are doing?
8:54 am edt 

Another Great Day to be Alive and Learn to Laugh

We can always find something to be unhappy about.  Try your best and focus
on being the best you can be.  Don't be too quick to judge.  It is too easy to
find fault.  Tolerant of self and others is a good way to be happy.

Ray Struble
8:52 am edt 

When Will the BOS Have a Real and Work-related Meeting?

It is only June 11th that they will finally meet to decide who is going to be on
the building committee? what are they doing? It appears as if little is being
done even though decisions are surely being made inside town hall. Take the
e-green money of $140,000 and use it to "fix" a problem with the heating
system--a problem we only authorized $600,000 to fix. Now that this bid fell
through, instead of it being re-bid, this grant or award is being "used" to fix
the problem with the much higher bid.

Re-bid the heating sytem. Keep the Green grant for green issues not to cover
wrong negatiations on an old heating system that will now end up costing a
million dollars when they are finished.

Poor thinking and the wrong use of a great grant.
8:50 am edt 

Saturday, June 2, 2012

Re: "On Top of Spaghetti"

Come on guys/gals, show some respect for our town leaders.  Grow up and stop
writing child-like nursery rhyms.  The town needs professional direction, not
idiotic childish jibber jabber.  Shows your intelligence.  Hope all the
ridiculous write-ins are not from the people in town government positions.  If
they are, boy, we are in trouble.  So what if Mr. Yingling was eating salad or
pizza or whatever.  No different than the other selectmen unwrapping candies and
chomping on tootsie rolls.
11:35 pm edt 

Erik Yingling - It's About Cache

It has been a month since the election, that means this blog has been all about
Erik Yingling backwards and forwards for well over two months.

Amazing how completely he has overpowered the dynamics of the town. No one has
mentioned Bergman in weeks! Lynn as superhero- Nope! Lynn as uber-villain? Nope! 
Pier Corp waste fraud and abuse? Nope! DPW malfeasance? Nope! Over zealous cops?
Nope!

Erik has completely changed the topic of every conversation about Ptown.  And
all these angry posts here reflects that and more.

Congratulations, Erik. You obviously hold all the political capital so get to
work and use it!!!
10:17 pm edt 

Re: On Top of Spaghetti

"I am loving this! Now the webmaster is defending the cartoon!

We have come full circle here folks!"


What do you have for brains? The webmaster never
said anything against the cartoon. You can't just
make things up because they suit your purpose.
10:13 pm edt 

Same as it Ever Was

What's all the fuss about, of course, if you watch any selectmen's
meetings you would know that the step and fetch attitude continues in all town
affairs and will continue to be played out on the building committee.
10:07 pm edt 

Re: On Top of Spaghetti

I am loving this! Now the webmaster is defending the cartoon!

We have come full circle here folks!
10:04 pm edt 

Re: On Top of Spaghetti

Congrats to the poet who finally got under the webmaster's skin!
Something many of us would have liked to have done over the years! It was
brillant using a child's poem

Cognitive Overdrive I'd Say!
9:12 pm edt 

Re: On Top of Spaghetti

Re: "Dribble" was the word of choice, as the words spewed forth were
no more than auto-responsive slobber, where as "drivel" would have at least
implied an attempt at cognitive forethought.


Ah, the old "I meant to do that" defense sandwiched inside a bunch of fifty cent
words. God forbid you admit your mistake.

Well, touché. You sure told him.


9:02 pm edt 

Re: On Top of Spaghetti

"Dribble" was the word of choice, as the words spewed forth were no
more than auto-responsive slobber, where as "drivel" would have at
least implied an attempt at cognitive forethought."


It is a well known food themed children's poem! Now wipe that dribble off your
chin Clarence!

Webmaster Comment:

Your misapplication of a plagiarised poem for children speaks volumes...
It totally misses the satire of the adult cartoon, which was drawn with
forethought concerning an actual-event-in-time. It was a snapshot that
described in caricature the multiple personalities of the BOS. It did not focus on your
singular bias. 

You have yet come to accept the fact that one man won and another loss.

Grow up!
8:40 pm edt 

Re: On Top of Spaghetti

The banter between the poet and the webmaster make for an amusing
read.  LOL.
8:14 pm edt 

Re: Green Repeating Parking Sign....

"Charging townies for parking,when town workers pay nothing."


I work for town and pay for my permit like everyone else.
8:11 pm edt 

On Top of Spaghetti

Re: "The cartoon as satire was  quite good.......but what do you call
this elementary prose.....political satire or inane dribble?

The essence of satire is its' basis in fact. Shout Out! is not obliged to print
nonsensical dribble."



I think you mean "drivel" which is defined as childish, silly, or meaningless
talk. Dribble is basically saliva. Maybe, before you dismiss another person's
post as "elementary," you should check your own for errors.

I know you won't publish this post, but I have a suggestion, Clarence: stop
acting so high and mighty perhaps you won't be so disliked around town. You
publish a tiny little local blog, this isn't the Huffington Post.

Webmaster Comment:

"Dribble" was the word of choice, as the words spewed forth were no more
than auto-responsive slobber, where as "drivel" would have at least implied 
an attempt at cognitive forethought.
4:16 pm edt 

Re: Green "OPEN" Sign

"What is that eye sore in the center of town on Bradford near
Tedeschi's that indicates the parking lot is "OPEN" ??"



Gee, do ya think it has anything to do with facilitating traffic flow as opposed
to hawking yoga or selling trinkets?
3:42 pm edt 

Green Repeating Parking Sign....

To the poster who wonders who allowed this sign for parking

On the wharf.."... You don't get ptown, whats allowed for some is
Not allowed for others.this is typical ptown, they give people a
Hard time ,but don't follow their own rules. This is true with all
The boards,take the hdc and Enzo,s plastic humongous porch.,
Charging townies for parking,when town workers pay nothing.
The Zoning boards, allowing the tear down on Bradford for a
Specified amount of units,then changing course and allowing
A extra unit after the developer cried he could not make any
Money on the house.
So, my fellow ptowner,join the frustration club.... And they wonder
Why citizens don't participate more.

1:24 pm edt 

Re: Townie

Just because you live here for three months out of the year,  it
doesn't mean you have the same feelings, experiences or associations as someone
who grew up With this. (If you ever ask me for a townie discount, I'll tell you
exactly how you're not a townie: you had to ask.)


1:16 pm edt 

Building Committee Should be in Place by Now

How long does it take the BOS and Sharon Lynn to form a building committee? this
is ridiculous. Now only on June 11th will there be another meeting? and how many
other meetings does it take to change this one light bulb?

the BOS should be ashamed that it lacks the leadership to act on this important
committee. this has taken too long and let's hope it's not being altered and
shaped from forces behind the black curtain. This ain't a magic show. just
citizens who care and want to act. Let them do it and let them do it now!

Austin, you are Chair. Please just don't sit on that middle seat. Do domething
now!
1:14 pm edt 

On Top of Spaghetti

On top of spaghetti,
All covered with cheese,
Erik lost his poor meatball,
When David sneezed.

It rolled off the table,
And onto the floor,
And then Eriks meatball,
Rolled out of the door.

It rolled down the hallway,
and stairs onto the street,
And then Eriks meatball,
Was nothing but flattened meat.

So Erik continue to eat your spaghetti,
All covered with cheese,
But hold on to your meatballs,
And tell David not to sneeze!


WSV

Come on Clarence, if it were M.C. eating the spaghetti, you would have gladly
posted it. Stop protecting your boy from political satire!

Webmaster Comment:
The cartoon as satire was  quite good.......but what do you call this 
elementary prose.....political satire or inane dribble?

The essence of satire is its' basis in fact. Shout Out! is not obliged
to print nonsensical dribble.
1:10 pm edt 

Now We Can't Criticize Anything?

Now you're critizing someone for criticizing the cartoonist? really? this is
nothing if not a place to state issues and post criticisms. We surely don't have
only one opnion in this town. It is not 1984 rite large.

I happen to like the cartoon that Kathleeen Fitzerald did. it is fabulous. but
others surely have the right to dislike it. that is their perogative and so is
this blog to post whatever side someone takes.

Strange posting on your part when criticisms should be banned from this blog!
12:48 pm edt 

Green "OPEN" Sign

What is that eye sore in the center of town on Bradford near Tedeschi's that
indicates the parking lot is "OPEN" ??

Did the town allow that ??  It does not fit the character of our lovely village
and is very "Downtown Boston comes to Provincetown".

If the town did allow it - why do they give business owners a hard time about
neon signs and then allow that eye sore to be there ?
8:55 am edt 

Town Employee Appreciation

I praise all of our town employees for jobs well done, am I kissing
up, no just merely acknowledging how hard everyone works to make this a
wonderful place to live.  Also, I'm thankful for all who give of their time to
serve on committes and as selectpersons.  Gratitude is not "kissing up" but a
positive state of mind.
Ray Struble
8:32 am edt 

The Forgotten Heroine

Re: "Mrs White - Town Hall elevator heroine"  She may have burned her
bridges but the elevator is her testimony to the Town for the benefit of those
who need to use it.  She's a great neighbor and never cared about recognition
for her heroic deed.  It was more important to make those public officials &
town manager,who deliberately ignored the law to have to do the right thing. 
Like it or not! Sounds like the respondent blogger may be suffering sour grapes!
8:30 am edt 

Friday, June 1, 2012

Police Station

One thing to consider when discussing the proposed police station is to also
have a portion of it as a hurricane/disaster shelter.
11:22 pm edt 

Re: Building Committee

Who has been appointed to the building committee that are now considering
pulling out of
11:21 pm edt 

Building Committee

I heard all the applicants for the Building Committee who might have an
independent outlook have been persuaded to withdraw. The only remaining
applicants are those that were encouraged to apply by the Jaran, Lynn or both.

Now it really will become the Railroad Committee?
3:59 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall Renovation

"Yes, it's true! The tourist also expressed glee, well not glee, more
astonishment that the town got it's tax rate approved ON TIME! They exclaimed
what a remarkable accomplishment. Amazing."


You seem to be a bitter, bitter person.  The point of the posting was to
acknowledge we did the right thing and a good job in renovating town hall.  It
was not a commentary on who should get credit, how much it cost, how staff is
doing or anything else.

Sorry you can't see a positive in anything.
3:57 pm edt 

An Adulteration


Clarence, posting criticism against beloved local cartoonist and her
acurate portrayal of Erik dining on his spaghetti dinner at his first
Selectmen's meeting is an anathema to the mission statement of your blog. You
once again have adultered this public forum with your biases.

I don't want my elected officials showing up in shorts for a Memorial Day
ceremony honoring those who have fought for this country including my ancestors
nor do I want to see elected officials (eating their dinner) during public
meetings. It is disrepectful.

Enough Clarence, enough.

Adulteration
3:55 pm edt 

Re: Banner Cartoon

"But I thought the inclusion of Erik's food and Austin's intellect was
beyond the pale and offensive."



You've missed the point of the cartoon.

The comment was on Austin's inability to make a decision. In the rare moments he
actually uses "I" in a sentence, he flip flops within minutes. Fitzgerald was a
sign waiving Bedard supporter and thus the rude treatment of Yingling and the
kit gloves for Anderson.



1:00 pm edt 

Town Hall Renovation

"I was walking up the steps of Town Hall yesterday when two visitors
were walking out.  One mentioned to the other that they did a great job
restoring the building and he was glad the town restored the building instead of
replacing it."



I was listening too, what a coincidence!  I heard them go on......

Yes, it's true! The tourist also expressed glee, well not glee, more
astonishment that the town got it's tax rate approved ON TIME! They exclaimed
what a remarkable accomplishment. Amazing.

Much to my surprise, the tourists went on and on and on... It seems they were
especially appreciative of the quaint charm our potholes and ruts provide. It
reminds them of what it must have been like in the colonial days before pavement
even existed.


12:39 pm edt 

Town Hall Renovation

To those who keep kissing up to Sharon Lynn for being town  manager while things
such as town hall get renovated, I say that she was only doing her job, and one
that she is extremely overpaid to do, (about the same amount as the mayor of
Boston).  What she  has done, anyone could do by just manipulating the voters
for overides.  Now I ask, is she
planning for the future cost of upkeep of these buildings,
such as repainting town hall and the library in a few years, or is she just
planning for more overides?

12:35 pm edt 

Re: I Happen to Like the Editorail Cartoon in the Banner

"Bravo to Kathleen for this one. You make Howie Sneider proud!"


Sneider revered Bergman.  I remember that when Bergman announced his departure
from town, Sneider's cartoon was of himself crying on his drawing board.

I do like Kathleen's work!
12:31 pm edt 

Re: Townie

Townies also hold the door for others at the post office and say hello
to Freddy on Commercial Street, even if the only rent for three months a year.
12:28 pm edt 

Re: Townie

One definition we could use for Townie is a person who loves
Provincetown and takes the time to learn the name of the person they pay for
their morning cup of coffee.
12:26 pm edt 

Re: One Persons Duckling is Another Persons Swan

Yes indeed, the new houses on Harry Kemp way, follow the way of Point
Street and West Vine and other large parcels that to this point have escaped
development.  But no one stepped up and bought the entire Gee property and saved
it from developers, although people who have the money and claim to LOVE
provincetown sat on their hands and their money.

All done legally, but I agree, not appropropriate or the tone we wish to set for
the town, or clearly some of us wish to set
8:45 am edt 

Town Hall Renovation

"A big thank you to Sharon Lynn for seeing the town through the
renovation of Town Hall.  It is a beautiful statement for our town."



I was walking up the steps of Town Hall yesterday when two visitors were walking
out.  One mentioned to the other that they did a great job restoring the
building and he was glad the town restored the building instead of replacing it.

We should be proud.
8:43 am edt 

One Persons Duckling is Another Persons Swan

"Have you seen those monstrous houses that are being built on a dune? 
They look so out of place and the landscaping looks like a garden center in New
Jersey."




I look at them and think $ as in taxes coming to the town to pay for projects. 
Keep em coming.
8:42 am edt 

Erik Needs to Step it up

"Erik is comnfortable with himself and Eating in Public is his prerogative"


Not it isn't! It's no more his prerogative than it's the presidents if he breaks
out a smoke during a press confrence or goes to that press conference in shorts.
There is a certain level of respect, decorum and conduct in higher office, more
than fincom. Allowing Erik to continue this conduct only diminishes the overall
respect people have for the BOS. If the board doesn't care about their
appearance before the public, why should the public respect them as leaders
8:39 am edt 

Townie

I was musing as to what makes a " townie"?  I guess we would all have
to be descendants of the Mayflower which I doubt.  Things are always changing as
is the makeup of the town.  Just go with the ebb and flow of the tide and life's
ride is easier.  Welcome to all who want to live here, you've become a "townie".
8:37 am edt 

Town Hall

I don't know what is written on the award but credit should go
to the Tax Payers. We were the ones who restored it and will
be paying for it for many years to come.
I wonder who paid for the Trio's trip to San Antonio, Texas?
Something tells me that the Tax Payers  should get credit for
that too.
8:35 am edt 

I Happen to Like the Editorail Cartoon in the Banner

I think it's tasful and to the point. It's like the old days with s[h]arp-witted
cartoons. Barvo to Katheleen for this one. You make Howie Sneider proud!
2:02 am edt 

Passing the Smell Test

I'm curious as to protocol for the BOS when ruling on a potential
conflict of interest.    The chair of the licensing board took a position
working in the box office of a local bar/nightclub.  The chair was requesting
the BOS rule on her potential conflict of interest when approving liquor and
entertainment licenses that are competition to her employer.

Why would the owner of the bar/nightclub be allowed to speak in favor of his
employee to provide a good reference for her when that was the very question
before the BOS.  It was not a public hearing and the question before the BOS was
the influence of the employer over the employee and her ability to not be
influenced by her employer when participating in licensing decisions.

That didn't smell right.
2:00 am edt 

Re: Forgotten Heroine

"It was nice that the Town officials got recognition for rehabing town
hall.  It was well deserved but why wasn't Mrs. White (who worked in town hall
for years)ever recognized for single handedly fighting the system that opposed
the elevator installation in town hall?  I remember she worked tirelessly
against all odds and had to seek outside assistance from the Attorney General to
get it done. That was an accomplishment worthy of special recognition."


My guess is the lack of recognition was due to all the bridges she has and
continues to burn.
1:56 am edt 

Town Hall Renovation - Sharon Lynn

A big thank you to Sharon Lynn for seeing the town through the
renovation of Town Hall.  It is a beautiful statement for our town.
1:55 am edt 

Re: Banner Cartoon

"I thought the cartoon was  unkind to  all the selectman. But I thought
the inclusion of Erik's food and Austin's intellect was beyond the pale and
offensive.

I am sure Erik is happy people are getting the local economy message and I doubt
Austin understood the implications."


This is perhaps more unkind and offensive than the Banner cartoon. At least the
cartoon is done in jest, you are flat out making fun of Austin. Not very nice.
1:53 am edt 

Please be Mindful

A plea to restaurant and cafe owners and staff!  Please inform your
customers and patrons not to dispose of their cigarette butts on the sidewalks,
in the street or down the sewer drain.   I see this happen very often even
though some establishments have a butt dispenser outside their establishment. 
It's shameful to walk down the street and see this mess littering the street
scape.  Thank you!

1:50 am edt 

Remedies

Why not build the DPW a bathroom, there's room to add on.

Also there is room to add on to the police station and fix the sewer line.
Police can park in the fire station lot.
1:03 am edt 

Erik at Memorial Day Ceremony

Do you think Erik could have worn something other than shorts, sandals, and a
wrinkly, untucked shirt at this week's Memorial Day ceremony? Maybe even combed
his hair? As a member of Erik's generation (who voted for him), I was really
embarrassed that he was representing me in front of the town and the veterans.
Symbolism may be less important than policy, but it's still important. That was
a disrespectful display that deserves to be called out.
1:01 am edt 

Erik Yingling

Erik is comnfortable with himself and Eating in Public is His
prerogative

let him eat spagetti! He did so when he was holding sings in the rain for his
own campaign and he can do it again and again.

Erik: let them eat cake!
1:00 am edt 


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