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Friday, June 1, 2012

To: Clarence

It is now well-known you are editing your posts depending on
personal biases. You might like to know, there is some talk going around Town
that you will do the same to advance any Finance Committee agenda since you are
now a board member. There will be a backlash as people aren't stupid and won't
trust the Finance Committee's work nor their recommendations if they sense you
are doing the same again here on your blog.

It is unfair to your fellow board members on the Finance Committee. It is your
choice how you will proceed.
12:58 am edt 

Harry Kemp Way New Development

Have you seen those monstrous houses that are being built on a dune?  They look
so out of place and the landscaping looks like a garden center in New Jersey. 
Hope this is not a snapshot of what will become of our town.  Very sad...and
ugly!!!
12:56 am edt 

Thursday, May 31, 2012

Thanks

Thank you to all who work to make this town a reality.  A job well
done!
8:30 am edt 

Welcome

Welcome back all seasonal Provincetowner's, this is your home too.  It
is a home for all who want to share it's beauty.  What a beautiful place to live
life!
8:27 am edt 

Forgotten Heroine

It was nice that the Town officials got recognition for rehabing town
hall.  It was well deserved but why wasn't Mrs. White (who worked in town hall
for years)ever recognized for single handedly fighting the system that opposed
the elevator installation in town hall?  I remember she worked tirelessly
against all odds and had to seek outside assistance from the Attorney General to
get it done. That was an accomplishment worthy of special recognition. I
remembered it because an arthritic woman used to thank her every year for being
able to go to Town Meeting,otherwise she couldn't because of all the stairs.
6:39 am edt 

Re: Erik Yingling - First Night Out - shame on the Banner!

"Have you seen the cartoon lampooning the Selectmen in the
Provincetown Banner this week?"



I thought the cartoon was  unkind to  all the selectman. But I thought the
inclusion of Erik's food and Austin's intellect was beyond the pale and
offensive.

I am sure Erik is happy people are getting the local economy message and I
doubt Austin understood the implications. Still, I was surprised it made it in the
paper.

Shame on the Banner.


12:47 am edt 

Wednesday, May 30, 2012

Law Suit Wating to Happen 11:52 pm edt 

Ah, If You're Into What the CPA Has Given

Add in the $850,000 that it gve to Ted malone. Outright. Nice to be in the
profit-making business and get a town to give you $850,000. that is what you
should focus on. At leat we can walk in the Sinaiko Garden and it won't be a
profit-making entreprise.

Then look at the $75,000 given to the owner of the Hawthorne Barn that has done
nothing. It is in limbo and the money is still prmised to this questionalbe
person. Promises, promises but nothing much for us in town who pay the CPA bills
each tax season.

Put these in your pipe, please!
11:49 pm edt 

Re: Seasonal Workforce Housing

"Seasonal workforce housing need not be affordable, and can be
structured to make money. (much like our sewer and water funds)"



Don't want my town running apartment or dormitory complexes.  Didn't we learn
our lesson with running a nursing home?  If this is a money making opportunity
let a private individual or company do it.
11:45 pm edt 

Driking in Public Places

"Nice to hear from you again, Michael. You know, you might really
rather enjoy living in Texas where cops rule."




Sorry, not Michael, bad guess on your part.
11:43 pm edt 

Not Even Close!

To:  "Yes, we will. That is the Provincetown I know. Where people are
concerned about preserving our natural beauty, against over-development,"



Are you kidding?  Take a walk down Shankpainter, West Vine, Bangs St., etc. This
town is the poster child for TOWN BOARD APPROVED cheap condo building ad
nauseum.  While your concern seems genuine, the proof is in the pudding.  The
road this town has chosen with it's ridiculous condo and apartment conglomerations
bypasses all common sense.  That a small spit of land on one of the most beautiful
natural spaces on earth supports and nurishes the growth of such tumors is no mystery. 

These lovely units get slapped up faster than your
foot long hot dog gets cooked.  Why?  So someone out there, probably not living
here in winter, can make a buck.  Don't bother with concern about natural
conservation and love of the town's natural beauty.  When was the last time you
saw a wild ladyslipper (the plant that is) in your back yard? 

The Provincetown I know didn't look like this.  Not even close.
11:41 pm edt 

Erik Yingling - Frst Night Out

Have you seen the cartoon lampooning the Selectmen in the Provincetown
Banner this week? How embarrassing for Erik at his first Selectmen's meeting
twirling his big bowl of spaghetti! For those who have only heard about his
infamous spaghetti dinner, check out the cartoon in this week's Banner!

What a way to start your Selectman scapebook Erik!
11:36 pm edt 

Seasonal Workforce Housing

Seasonal workforce housing need not be affordable, and can be structured to make
money. (much like our sewer and water funds)

I'd imagine development loans or zoning concessions instead of tax dollars.

I'm glad someone is looking into it!
5:52 pm edt 

Library Bike Rack is in the Wrong Place
 
Get it off of the sidewalk. Place the statue back on the lawn and leave the
sidewalk free of both of these. You have such a formal lawn--not inviting at
all--when it should have been more level and inviting for the public to
approach. this lawn says: keep off and keep away. and too many do. Few are
reading in town and few are really using the libarary as a library.

Glad it's finally done but fix the problem and danger of these bike racks and
the statue that is ill placed.
5:46 pm edt 

Re: Drinking in Public Places

"But we will pay $250,000 for a pretty garden, we will pay $1,000,000
for the development restriction to a camp ground which we won't even own.  We'll
pay $1,000,000 for some property to give away so people will have a nice
inexpensive place to live.  We will give away subsidized to parking to any and all
who want it because they are entitiled to park at the MPL."


Yes, we will. That is the Provincetown I know. Where people are concerned about
preserving our natural beauty, against over-development, very against
homelessness, and in support of parking access for those who live and work here. 
NOT law and order, NOT "pricing people out," NOT cops attempting to scare
residents with fabricated rape stories in order to gain power, NOT secretly
firing people by trying to make it look like "budget housekeeping."

Nice to hear from you again, Michael. You know, you might really rather enjoy
living in Texas where cops rule.
5:32 pm edt 

Bike Racks at Public Library

"Why doesn't the library just move the racks to another location, like somewhere 
near the Center St entry."


That makes a lot of sense. First why not properly install the bike rack? Second,
when doing so, why not move the bike rack to a more logical location.

Someone said Historical wanted the bikes out of the sight line of the building
hence the sidewalk placement. (Is Historic really saying things like that? Bike
racks are unsightly and must be out of sight lines? Really?)

And if they must keep them on the sidewalk, can't they at least properly install
them?
5:29 pm edt 

RE: Re: Drinking in Public Places

EXCELLENT EXCELLENT POST!!!

That sums it up in a nutshell. It's amazing the things voters will approve yet
disregard the support system that allows these things to prosper.

Get ready for the next lawsuit. I believe a person or a department in another
state just sued their municipality for decrepid work conditions, specificly one
where the employees were made to use a bucket as a bathroom. Sound familiar
buildings and grounds?
5:26 pm edt 

Re: Drinking in Public Places

"That's not a surprising answer.  You miss the point.  I would think
town...employees get tired of constantly being dumped on and treated like
crap...Hey DPW worker, we're not going to provide you with a basic indoor
bathroom...Hey police officer,  Tough, be happy you got a job....But we will pay
$250,000 for a pretty garden, we will pay $1,000,000 for the development
restriction to a camp ground.  We'll pay $1,000,000 for some inexpensive place
to live.  We will give away subsidized to
parking"



I disagree with the conclusions of this poster, and I wish the tone was a bit
more mature, but nevertheless, I hope s/he runs for selectman. At least someone
is thinking about priorities.
5:23 pm edt 

I Don't Think So!

"The Selectmen are looking at providing affordable housing
for the seasonal work force in Provincetown."




They are doing WHAT ?  Why should we have to provide housing for the seasonal
workforce?  If anyone should, it should be the business owners.  My tax $ to
provide a seasonal worker an apartment - not a well thought out idea.
5:21 pm edt 

Abandoned Bikes

Call the cops.  They will come and retrieve the bikes if they've been abandoned
for a certain amount of time....not sure the exact time....but they will know. 
508.487.1212
5:19 pm edt 

Re: Drinking in Public Places

Re: "If some police officers aren't doing their jobs because they "feel
bad," they should be fired immediately."



That's not a surprising answer.  You miss the point.  I would think town
employees get tired of constantly being dumped on and treated like crap.

Hey DPW worker, we're not going to provide you with a basic indoor bathroom at
work and to top it off we're going to vote against any new equipment you need to
do your job.

Hey police officer, the sewer backed up in your building?  the A/C died and when
you are writing your reports at the end of the day you sit in a 90 degree office
that smells like sewage?  Tough, be happy you got a job.

But we will pay $250,000 for a pretty garden, we will pay $1,000,000 for the
development restriction to a camp ground which we won't even own.  We'll pay
$1,000,000 for some property to give away so people will have a nice inexpensive
place to live.  We will give away subsidized to parking to any and all who want
it because they are entitiled to park at the MPL.

But, town employee - no we won't give you an indoor bathroom to use while you
are at work, nor equipment to do your job, nor A/C in a cramped funeral home
that we call a police station.
10:30 am edt 

Re: The Library Bike Racks

Why doesn't the library just move the racks to another location, like somewhere
 near the Center St entry.  That would make more sense and be out of the way! 
A wheel chair couldn't make a pass on the sidewalk with the bikes sticking too far
into the walk as of yesterday! 

Also enforcement of no dogs on the lawns should be in place.  I pass by and see
dogs peeing and roughing up the grass all the time.  Do people have a
conscience?  Kids also role around on the grass after dogs pee!  Not so healthy
people...
10:23 am edt 

Re: Memorial Day

 Re: "I am a long time year rounder, active in the community, hard
worker, and an artist."


Help is on the way.  The Selectmen are looking at providing affordable housing
for the seasonal work force in Provincetown.
10:18 am edt 

Present in the "now"

Wwhen we talk of taking back the town, for or from whom?  Who ever has
chosen to live here regardless of length or seasonality, is part of the whole. 
The town is only those who identify with it as home  It takes all kinds and all
are doing their best to realize their dreams of belonging here.  Take it back
for yourself and realize you belong. It lives on in the present.
10:16 am edt 

Re: Library Bike Racks

Perhaps the Library should invest in a pair of lock cutters for
abandoned bikes?

I don't think the Library was singled out even though I fault them for not
properly overseeing the bike rack installation. On two occassions, I have seen
two people pushing wheelchairs moving attached bikes so that the wheelchairs
they were pushing could pass by.
10:13 am edt 

Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Re: Memorial Day

Re: "My comment re "taking back the town" was totally about the
Memorial Day demographic. It has been an obnoxious group which is thankfully
being priced out."



I am a long time year rounder, active in the community, hard worker, and an
artist. I am also being "priced out" as you call it. If making Provincetown
accessible to only the extremely wealthy is your idea of "taking back the town,"
then yeah, you're doing a great job. Kudos to you. Soon you'll have the town all
to yourself.
11:46 pm edt 

Re: Memorial Daky

"Being gay or lesbian has nothing to do with it. AT ALL. It's about
out-of-touch newcomers who care about nothing but personal power and their own
assets."


Well said!!!!!!
11:20 pm edt 

Re: Library Bike Racks

All right, which one of you Antilibrary malcontents has permenantly locked those
two junk bikes to the library bike racks?  Seriously, are you so warped by your
hate for all that is good that you think you can make your point  nitpicking the
placement of the racks by tying up spaces on the racks with scrap metal better
left to the recycling center.  Take a look people at the two junk bikes locked
to the racks using the same lock.  They haven't moved in Weeks.  Either some
dink put them there just to cause trouble, or two people went into to the
library together (same lock) and never came back out.  Either we should organize
a search party or get a pair of bolt cutters and clean the street envoirment by
taking those junks to the dump where they belong.  This would free up those
spaces for legitimate library patrons.

Suggestion

The library should post a small sign near the bike racks "Bikes left here more
than 24 hours will be removed and recycled"  then they could remove unsightly
junk left by trouble makers.  Then library patrons would have full use of the
resources our tax dollars helped pay for.

10:46 pm edt 

Re: Memorial Day

My comment re "taking back the town" was totally about the Memorial
Day demographic. It has been an obnoxious group which is thankfully being priced
out.
10:42 pm edt 

Re: Drinking in Public Places

Contrary to your baseless assertion, the patrol officers work in the field, not
the dump on Shank Painter.

To suggest they shouldn't care about public safety is irresponsible and violates
the oath each of them took when they were sworn in as police officers in P'town.
7:07 pm edt 

Re: Drinking in Public Places

"We make them work in a dump, a fire trap at that, at some point that
has to affect how they feel about their job."




If some police officers aren't doing their jobs because they "feel bad," they
should be fired immediately.
6:48 pm edt 

Re: Memorial Day

"Homophobia is alive and well in Provincetown.  'Taking back the town'
is the new code for pushing out the gay and lesbians."


Hold your horses, troublemakers.  This is BS. Many, many of us gays and lesbians
supported Erik's election wholeheartedly and are thrilled at the current changes
in town gov't. Many, many of us gays and lesbians hated the old FinCom, and
despise the town manager and her gay, rich little clique. Many of us gays and
lesbians have been tromped on by that elite club.

Being gay or lesbian has nothing to do with it. AT ALL. It's about out-of-touch
newcomers who care about nothing but personal power and their own assets.
6:46 pm edt 

Re: Drinking in Public Places

". . .the cops seemed completely nonplussed.  Someone threw Rum on my
friend. The police should care."



I think the police most likely do care.  But why they would I'm not sure.  We
make them work in a dump, a fire trap at that, at some point that has to affect
how they feel about their job.
6:20 pm edt 

Waydowntown

I hope the owners of Waydowntown will consider bringing their barker
inside during the Memorial Day observance ceremony next year.. It was rather
tacky and disrespectful for example to hear him shouting out food items during
our national anthem, and the playing of taps. Obviously it's not the fault of
this young man. The owners however I think should know better
6:18 pm edt 

Re: Memorial Day
 
"Also, there were more families and our more typical demographics
"taking back the town"."




Homophobia is alive and well in Provincetown.  'Taking back the town' is the new
code for pushing out the gay and lesbians.  'Families and typical demographics' ?

News flash to you.  We ain't going anywhere.  You may have purged the FinCom of
most of the gays and lesbians, you may be trying to do the same to the BOS, but
we ain't going anywhere.
6:12 pm edt 

Re: Memorial Day

"Also, thereday were more families and our more typical demographics
"taking back the town". Please spread the word, this weekend can be had back."



Taking it back from the          huh?  Sorry pal, there are many of us who moved
here, bought property here, etc., and we have just as much right to our town as
you do.
6:08 pm edt 

Re: FinComm

I kind of agree that the FinCom time would be wasted if they want to
monitor every line item in every budget.  Department A spends $253 on office
supplies when their budget is $200, but overall they didn't overspend their
budget.  The FinCom has far bigger fish to fry than grilling department A as to
why their office supply budget was overspent by $
12:15 pm edt 

Memorial Day

I think we're seeing the decline of the traditional Provincetown
Memorial Day debauch. For the third consecutive year there were fewer of the
"baby    " and the behavior was generally less obnoxious. Also, there were more
families and our more typical demographics "taking back the town". Please spread
the word, this weekend can be had back. There may be upside to our pricing
ourselves out of a market for once.
10:47 am edt 

Re: FinComm

"If they question management thoroughly about department budgets, it's
their job to do question every line item. If line items are over expended there
needs to be a viable explanation.  For too long depts. have interchanged line
items and watched only the bottom line balances."



If I read you correctly you want every line item in every budget questioned? 
That would make town government and the work of the finance committee about as
inefficient as it could possibly be.  You hire a town manager and staff to do
that and then you have the finance committee review the results.

Micromanage everything and fail to look at the big picture?  It's not the role
of the finance committee and I wouldn't want them wasting their time on such
minutiae.  Of course it would feed into Erik's goal of hiring more town staff
just to spend all the time holding the hand of the finance committee.
10:42 am edt 

Public Courtesy

Before You're rude to your cashier, barista or shopgirl- remember who
she's friends with, or who might be watching. Because we'll take note- and
adjust our behavior towards you accordingly. I'm a local, and I watched a woman 
publicly berate and humiliate a girl on a register at whalers wharf  the other
day. She grew up here like me, so I'm
wondering how she thought it was safe to do that without being called out on her
        .
9:36 am edt 

Drinking in Public Places

Next year could there be some strict enforcement of the drinking laws?
I had some "young ladies" try to start fights with me when I called them out, I
saw a lot of them drinking out of open containers in front of the       and
      ... Getting drunk and yelling at people from the top of        at 8pm on a
Thursday. This may be a party town, but people and children still live here.
(And the latter sometimes have to go to school on FRIDAY MORNING.) the cops
seemed completely nonplussed.  Someone threw Rum on my friend. The police should
care.
9:33 am edt 

Re: FinComm

"For those who thought the choice to not appoint an applicant who had
financial background from some college was insulting,that doesn't make them
proficient in gov't budgets."


And what makes two current FinCom members proficient in gov't budgets, their
less than stellar financial backgrounds?  I don't think you want to go there.
9:11 am edt 

Memorial Day

Chief Takakjian you said it all....  GREAT JOB.....
9:03 am edt 

Monday, May 28, 2012

I Love This Day

It is time to look back to our fathers, uncles, cousins, and husbands who gave
of themselves for us. they served. They fought. They defended us.

Thank you for everything. so many thank yous to so many alive and dead. In
triumph and in agony, they gave us so much. I bow my head and am so grateful.
10:15 pm edt 

To: All Our Veterans

Thank You, Thank You

So wonderful to have a day where we can say thank you to all who served. And
even more to those who lost their lives for our country. there is no greater
sacrifice. We can only be grateful for all of them for all they have done for
us.


10:12 pm edt 

Memorial Day:

Kudos to all the organizations who took time out to participate..... It was
beautiful...  Ptown's finest looked awesome in their dress blues!

Happy summer...
9:33 pm edt 

Memorial Day Service

Very  nice Memorial Day service today at Town Hall. Yet, I was embarrassed by
Austin Knight's speech. I think he should have practiced his speech before
giving it and spent a little more time thinking about it. And his singing is
better left to SHOWGIRLS rather than such a somber occasion.

What a shame for all those who lost family for our American freedom,
Provincetown knows you deserve better.


9:28 pm edt 

Austin Look Over Your Shoulder!

"Cutting and pasting BOS agendas and board appointments is not what those who
voted for Erik had in mind. Where are his ideas he ran on? What has he done to
advance them?"



1) Be careful what you pray for

2) Austin Knight is in for a very bumpy few months.
9:24 pm edt 

In Memorium

On this Memorial Day I think of my father, a veteran of WWII who was
awarded a purple heart in recognition of injuries that he received while
fighting in the South Pacific in 1944.  I am happy that my father went on to
live a good long life, but he surely suffered from post-tramatic stress
disorder, although they did not call it back in those days.  Thank you all of
the veterans, past and present, who put their lives on the line for us to enjoy
the freedoms that we enjoy here in the USA.
9:21 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Beaches

I am tired of cleaning up after pet owners who don't clean up after
their pets.
9:19 pm edt 

Re: Now Trouth be Said

" At least now it's equalized,native,townie,& newbies. "


Please define those terms?
9:16 pm edt 

Truth be Said

Forget Erik and dog poop, if you can for a day or so.

Many of us have or know those who have family; brothers, sisters, sons,
daughters, mothers, fathers, friends or neighbors or co-workers or those we know
only by first name in our peripheral lives who served and still serve in our
nation's military.  Loved ones lost, loved ones dented, and loved ones missed in
places like our beaches and sidewalk cafes. Sorely missed. Thank you to them. 
Their sacrifice is immeasurable.  We talk the talk about dog parks and great
campaigns, but it doesn't compare.  When push comes to shove, only certain folks
can walk that walk.  Thank you. Happy Memorial Day to those who know what that
means!
1:27 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Beaches

Taken from the Town's 2009 Annual Report submitted by the Animal
Welfare Committee
:

'At a joint meeting between the AWC and Board of Health, concerns about
parasites in dog fecal matter were raised. This concern resulted in the AWC
seeking input from local, regional and state officials, as well as the medical
community, to examine if there was a real threat to humans from dog fecal matter
in Provincetown and our region. After conducting a survey of the fifteen Boards
of Health of Cape Cod towns plus Nantucket and Marthas Vineyard, of the fourteen
Boards of Health that responded, not one had ever recorded an incident of humans
contracting a parasite through dog feces.  Former Outer Cape Health Services
Medical Director Dr. Steven Lacey informed the AWC that no cases of hookworm and
roundworm (parasites that can be found in fecal matter) had been treated at OCHS
in the last three years.  Dr. Alexander McAdam of the Infectious Disease
Diagnostic Laboratory at Childrens Hospital in Boston also weighed in: In the
past three years we have detected four cases of r!
oundworm and no cases of hookworm. After this extensive survey, the AWC went
back to the BOH to report its findings:  that there was no evidence that
Provincetowns residents or visiting children and adults who use town beaches
where dogs are allowed to be off-leash are contracting hookworms, roundworms or
giardia.'
1:25 pm edt 

From: "Dog Lover"

It s a beautiful day. Go out and enjoy it.

Dog lover
1:22 pm edt 

Don't be Fooled!

Townies and natives are not village idiots as some
may think.  It doesn't matter,natives,townies,or newbies - caring means working
together for the same common goal. After a while status quo needs changes. The
new Fin Com will have to prove themselves as well. Atleast now it's
equalized,native,townie,& newbies.

Clarence and Duane are excellent choices to work in concert with the remaining Fin
Com members. If they question management thoroughly about department budgets,
it's their job to do question every line item. If line items are over expended there
needs to be a viable explanation.  For too long depts. have interchanged line items
and watched only the bottom line balances.

For those who thought the choice to not appoint an applicant who
had financial background from some college was insulting,that doesn't make them
proficient in gov't budgets. It's different, but maybe if their ego isn't too
large,they'll apply again when an opening exists and they can educate themselves in
town gov'tprocess. Everyday is a learning experience.
1:20 pm edt 

Erik Yingling

Cutting and pasting BOS agendas and board appointments is not what
those who voted for Erik had in mind. Where are his ideas he ran on? What has he
done to advance them? That takes rolling up one's sleeves not cutting and
pasting info that can easily be found on the Town's website.


1:10 pm edt 

Sunday, May 27, 2012

Provincetown Beaches
 
BACTERIA IN BEACH SAND-
ONE DOG POOP EQUIVALENT TO 1,000 SEA GULLS!!!

Sunday Cape Cod Times front page of "B" section Story. "The Real scoop on Beach
Sand Bacteria", By Sean Gonsalves.

According to microbioal ecologst Elizabeth Halliday:"We know bacteria can
reproduce by themselves...Obviously, if a dog defecates on the bach sand,
there's bacteria in there that can make you sick. What isn't clean is how long
the fecal matter stays alive.

"People tend to blame the birds. But the fecal matter of a single dog poop is
equivalent to smoething like 1,000 sea gull poops".
11:42 am edt 

How Wrong Are You!

Erik Yingling is young and probably inexperienced but he can do no worse than
others that are on the board.  He deserves a chance just like all others that
have been and are still serving on the board.  The only one that I can see that
has any knowledge and experience with the town is John Santos, native to
Provincetown.  Someone who now has Provincetown as their home, attends a few
selectmens meetings and decides to run for office, gets in and thinks they can
make a difference is no different than Mr. Yingling running for office.  He will
learn along the way just as the others have who serve on the board.  Kudos to
Mr. Yingling for at least making himself available to the public, more than we
can say for others.
9:35 am edt 

Provincetown Selectmen

Heard about your blog so I decided to read what the public postings have been
writing for the newly elected gentleman to the Board of Selectmen.  There seems
to be some negativity towards him.  I inquired who this person was. It appears
to me that he deserves a chance, the same chance all other elected officials
are, and have been, given. What would all of you in the negative say and do if
he turns out to be good for your town.  Would you apologize to him?

One blogger wrote that he asks questions about certain topics in open meetings
when they should be asked in advance of the meeting because it makes him look
bad.  Perhaps he is doing this on purpose to see if public officials will know
the answers to his questions.  He could be looking to see where the weakness and
strengths in his empemployees are.
9:14 am edt 

Re: How Wrong You Are

I don't know from your post if you agree with me or not but the fact that there
was a high voter turn out shows people in town wanted to have their votes count
this time and the fact that an incumbent was thrown out goes again to show that
they are again, fed up with the misguidance of town government. Erik who? That's
probably what a lot of people asked as they went to vote but saw that he was the
only other person on the ticket other than Bedard and decided to vote for him.
And your right, if government continues to not produce for the voters, the next
election will have an ousting of the incumbents too.

To the flip side of that coin, I doubt all the newcomers to the board will guide
the way. Erik has no experience on town government other than a lackluster
experience on the fincom. Without experience and historical knowledge of the
ongoings of town politics, productive motion forward is slow and uncharted. Next
election, people that have been to meetings and pay attention to politics should
run for the seats as opposed to commenting from the sidelines.
8:57 am edt 

Re: How Wrong You Are

Re: "Bedard lost by a landslide. Erik won overwhelmingly."


I guess the word "landslide" is open to interpretation.
8:49 am edt 

What? You Just Can't Count! It Was a Blow Out!

Bedard lost by a landslide. Erik won overwhelmingly. You can't rewrite history.
the numbers speak.
12:04 am edt 

Looks Like Businsses Are Doing Well This Weekened

many people in town. many people in restaurants. Looks good for the season. good
news for Provincetown.
12:02 am edt 

Erik Yingling is a Great Choice

so happy he won. so glad that this man is now a selectman. I look forward to his
work as a selectman.
12:01 am edt 

Saturday, May 26, 2012

Re: PBG

Beg to differ about the PBG president. He put himself on the slate
KNOWING he would be away and not do anything. Do you really think someone else
could have even run since he sat himself on the ballot as a choice, the only
choice. No one else was even asked. You can thank the nominating committee for
that. Oh, wasn't the tourism director on that who also left for months. The fact
is he is not doing anything. All he had to do was say no.
11:59 pm edt 

Attitude

Just came back from a shopping trip,could not believe the attitude,is
it august yet,what in       name is wrong with these vendors.The bearded
lady,lady, really ,she does not know the word,I doubt she actually knows the
english language
11:58 pm edt 

Re: How Wrong You Are

Re: "tell the long time seniors that it's time to take their town back,
cut back on spending and lower their taxes."



Ha ha. Exactly! This is the same stuff every candidate for every office in every
election tells potential voters. And they CONTINUE to fall for it!

That Erik is a genius!
11:53 pm edt 

How Wrong You Are

"I don't know that Erik's election was so much the will of the people
as it was a very smart marketing campaign and an ability to rally his troops."




You hit the nail on the head.  Get the friends & people the same age to register
and vote and tell the long time seniors that it's time to take their town back,
cut back on spending and lower their taxes.  Then get your cousin to provide
free cab rides to these same seniors.  The campaign was very smart and credit 
        for that.

3:42 pm edt 

Appliance Repairman

I called the guy on Monday and he said he was coming to fix
it on Wensday. He showed up 3 weeks and 2 days later.
Got 6k off appliance from him and that was the best he could do.

After 1 week I called the guy from Wellfleet, came the same 
days ordered the part and two days later fixed
2:14 pm edt 

Re: How Wrong You Are

Re: "The facts: Voter turn out was very high.  Hundred of voters more
than usual. yet he incumbent got less than 40% of the vote. Erik won a mandate.
A decisive win with a large turnout."



Erik was smart in that he convinced a lot of his young friends and their
friends, and their friends, etc., etc. to register and vote for him. I am
familiar with his crowd. These are not people who care about or participate in
our town politics, in many cases I'm sure these people never voted before and
never will again.

I don't know that Erik's election was so much the will of the people as it was a
very smart marketing campaign and an ability to rally his troops.
2:09 pm edt 

High School - Trades Training

Comments are always made that there aren't year-round jobs in
provincetown.  I contend there are openings for good plumbers, building
contractors and appliance repairmen.  Try getting an appliance repairman to
visit, you may have to wait at least a month.  That tells me there is a need for
more people with those skills in town.  Same with a contractor, etc.

So we've got job openings in town, we just don't have the trained people to fill
the positions.  Maybe if the high school was used to teach a trade it wouldn't
have had to close.
12:50 pm edt 

Re: PBG

"Talk about ego. He had to have the position. Now he could care less."


Don't let facts get in the way of your rants.  The fact is the current president
did NOT want the position because he knew he would be here less than half the
year.  But he was begged to stay on because they had no one else who would take
the position.  He did them a favor and he shouldn't be bashed for doing it.
12:28 pm edt 

Re: How Wrong You Are

"Yingling won by so many not due to the fact that the voters
WANTED Erik but because they DIDN'T WANT"


The facts: Voter turn out was very high.  Hundred of voters more than usual. 
yet he incumbent got less than 40% of the vote. Erik won a mandate. A decisive
win with a large turnout.

Now both Santos and Knight are very vulnerable. In fact Bedard was a better
Selectman than either of them will ever be.

12:22 pm edt 

Happy All the Restaurants Open! - A Different Perspective

Me too, so I can work not dine out
with friends.  Unemployment all winter and now three jobs to make ends meet
until it all closes again.
A desperate way to live for our slice of paradise at lands end.

Building all this affordable housing to create ghettos to house us instead of
finding ways to create a year round economy.
11:38 am edt 

PBG

Nice about the PBG president. I heard he never even called into the
meetings and hardly attends them now. Talk about ego. He had to have the
position. Now he could care less
11:34 am edt 

Re: How Wrong You Are

Erik ran a great campagin against Bedard. I do believe, however, the
incumbent was thrown out of office because of voter capital expenditure fatigue
having faced steep overrides, and torn up streets over the last several years.
It should be a wake-up call to those remaining in office and up for re-election
next year.

6:28 am edt 

Friday, May 25, 2012

Re: How Wrong You Are

How wrong YOU are. Yingling won by so many not due to the fact that the voters
WANTED Erik but because they DIDN'T WANT Bedard due to the recent mess the town
is in with him as one of the 5 at the top of the heap. Next election will be the
same situation and the incumbents will most likely be ousted, not because the
new candidate would be great but because the voters are sick of this mess.
11:28 pm edt 

Where do I Look?

How can I find the new gossip blog people keep talking about
11:08 pm edt 

11:01 pm edt 

I'm so Happy that Our Favorite Restaurants Are Now OPen


It is a wonderful weekend. Time to spend time with friends at the restaurants
that once were wrapped tight and shut during the winter.

so glad we are together and can enjoy drinks and fabulous food at so many great
restaurants.

I am so pleased that Memorial Day Weekened is here.
11:00 pm edt 

How Wrong You Are

No, many do not believe Erik is incapable. I guess you can't count. Count the
votes and you'll see that two hundred more believed--and they are right--that
Erik Yingling was more capable, more qualified, and more ready to do the best
job as a selectman than David Bedard. That is what the votes said. They also
said that even after serving, people do not believe that Bedard could do as good
a job as Yingling.

Count the votes. Therein lies the truth and the trust in our new selectman Mr.
Erik Yingling.
10:35 pm edt 

PBG President

THe President of the PBG lists Florida as his residence on his FB
page. What a slap in the face to Provincetown
9:54 pm edt 

Great to See so Many Restaurants Open

It has happened. The great, big weekened is here. We survived the winter and
now: abundazza

Time to enjoy. time to be glad that we are all here together enjoying this
wonderful town.
3:39 pm edt 

3:38 pm edt 

Happy Memorial Day Weekend to All!

Let's hope it's a great weekend for all! I hope all businesses do well and that
everyone enjoys themselves.

And yes, thoughts of all who gave their lives for this country. Thanks to them
and their families. thanks for such dear service. They humble us all.
3:35 pm edt 

Enough: You Lost and Your Candidate is Now Inside His Own Gym

You lost and let's move on. erik has only been at one meeting but you are
determined to undermine him.

enough of your malice. Let's get on to other issues.

I hope the Webmaster stops printing your rants. They are illusions of your poor
mind and enough of this.
3:32 pm edt 

Re: Total Transparency

"I have no problem sending e-mails to anyone in town gov't. I'm sure if I wanted
to speak to a selectman it is easily arranged.  Anyone who has a gripe about
Enzo's porch should go and talk to Erik about it. . ."



You don't get it do you?  Many of us believe Erik isn't capable.  He ran a great
campaign as guided by his 'advisors', but he just doesn't have the smarts to be
a selectman.  Why in the world would I ever go talk to him?  He's the front man
for people behind the scenes attempting to get into power.

For example - Invest a minimum of 5% in Seamen's, that was           idea, it
didn't come from Erik.


9:34 am edt 

FinComm

"Time to pull in the major expenses, prioritize, and then move forward.
seems like the group that can and will do this well."


Won't happen.  This group doesn't have the knowledge or experience with town
finances.  As a FinCom member from some time ago said it takes a couple of years
just to understand the Mass. law regarding finances and the town's finances and
how we got to this point.  You have zero intimate financial knowledge on the
this committee.  It's going to take them at least a year to get up to speed,
probably longer.

Unfortunately for everyone involved you have a number of people on this
committee who think they already know everything and will want to go off on
expeditions.  It's going to be a disaster.




9:30 am edt 

Spawn of This Blog

There is now a blog that is a "call for Gossip". It asks for general rants and
raves, opening party and B'day party reviews. Gentrification woes, personals
missed connections.

Remain anonymous or don't. And then the disclaimer:Nothing too hurtful--just
make it sting.

Sound familiar to any of you?

The new blog is called BanTer.
9:27 am edt 

New Gossip Blog

Have you heard about the new gossip blog? That is actually what it is called.
You can sign your name or not. It is a take off on the name "Banner".

Lies and inuendo will be even more prevalent now!
9:22 am edt 

FinComm

If Tom Donegan is smart which I think he is, he'll take control over
MJ stonewalling the application of three people to be on FinCom day 61 of the
unfilled vacancies and have them on the agenda to be interviewed for the
positions.

Wall St. Veteran
9:20 am edt 

Let FinnComm be FinComm

Let it be. Let the memers do what they will do. No one  can peer into the future
but I think this will be a solid board that will help the town contain its
expenditures.

Time to pull in the major expenses, prioritize, and then move forward. seems
like the group that can and will do this well.
7:43 am edt 

Voter Registration

I am not an expert. Probably the most knowledgeable person in town on voting
registration is our Town Clerk, who is pretty darn sharp.


Here's what i understand:  some people move all the time. they live in one
place, then a month later , they live somewhere else. our laws take this into
account when dealing with voting.

voting is considered one of the most important "rights" we have , and the
government rules go overboard in its attempt to not interfere with your right to
vote.

the highest priority  rule (besides being in USA legally...which we will not
discuss today...) is that you can only be registered to vote in one place at one
time.

and in order to register, you must provide an address,which as a point of
interest , for some people, can actually be a boat.

the government doesn't care how long you have lived in a place, nor whether you
own or rent. but you must have an physical address to register.

that's voting.  & if you are stuck in a hospital in texas for a year, you can
still claim provincetown as your "residence" and file for a absentee ballot to
vote.

so, don't mix the two. voting registration is a very different legal issue ,
than residency.


Slippery Horseshoe Crab
7:40 am edt 

Building Committee

"A minimum of three of the people on the (FinCom) committee are coming
in with their own personal agenda"



I am not sure about that, but it appears our newest emerging politician is
campaigning for and from the Building Committee?

7:37 am edt 

Too Many Liquor Licenses

Isn't it amazing that the            has its own outside bar?

It used to be so hard to get a liquor license--now they give them away like
grocery store coupons.

Way too many liquor licenses for a town 2.5 miles long and 1/2 a mile wide.
7:33 am edt 

Total Transparency

I have no problem sending e-mails to anyone in town gov't. I'm sure if I wanted
to speak to a selectman it is easily arranged.

Anyone who has a gripe about Enzo's porch should go and talk to Erik about it.

Anyone who has a gripe about the pier should go and talk to Erik.

Anyone who has a gripe about the foreign workers coming here and taking our jobs
from locals should go and talk to Erik.


7:29 am edt 

Thursday, May 24, 2012

Re: Only God Decides

In response to the death with dignity petition complainer,  God decided you
should get cancer and die.   You Decide to fight God's will using man made
medical science to fight the cancer and live.  You are cured in spite of God's
decision you should  die.  what's the difference between your decision to fight
God's will and live and the decision to accept God's will and die with dignity.
8:09 am edt 

Wednesday, May 23, 2012

I Want to Support the VFW

I want all of us to suport them. If they are losing members--and of course
they would--I want to work to support them. I'd love to give some money to help
them stay together.

What can we do?
11:32 pm edt 

Voter Registration Qualification Questions

How does the Town and non-resident taxpayers accommodate the issue of
voter registration? Considering anyone can walk in and register to vote and they
can't ask any questions....how does the town monitor its voter rolls to assure
that only residents vote?  Seems like all over the Cape it is understood that
only permanent year round residents can vote.  Can anyone offer me any history
on this issue?
11:30 pm edt 

Re: You Are Just Wrong

"You just want to write your own rules. Town members on boards can do
whatever they want in support of candidates. That is all different than town
employees. . . "



Believe whatever you wish, but if you are interested in the law you may wish to
look up 'special town employee' in the ethics area of Mass General Law.

And then you will find you are wrong.  But, I'm taking a wild guess you seldom
admit it when you are wrong.
11:24 pm edt 

FinComm

 "A minimum of three of the people on the (FinCOom) committee are coming in
with their own personal agenda"


Can you detail what those agenda's might be? Best to name the people with
agenda's but don't if you can't.
I'm very curious.

Webmaster Comment: Names will not be published.
8:01 pm edt 

Repetition is no Substitute For Validity

Sorry, but Saying the Same Thing Over and Over....

.....does not make it right. there are some here that assume that if they write
and say the same thing over and over, that makes what they think and what they
write right. No, wrong again.

Poor thinking repeated ad nauseum does not make the point or the position true.

It's sickening but not correct.
7:57 pm edt 

You Are Just Wrong

You just want to write your own rules. Town members on boards can do whatever
they want in support of candidates. That is all different than town employees.
they have a financial stake in who is elected. town boards are volunteers. Not
the same, harry!

Wrong, and wrong again. time for the ink you pen to dry up.
7:53 pm edt 

Re: "Musings on Provincetown..".

I agree that the three or more peolpe
serving on town boards who have filed for bankruptcy in the past should not give
up there lives and not be involved  with town affairs but that does not make
them more qualified than others who have never allowed themselves to reach those
dire financial situations.
7:51 pm edt 

Thanks Erik: I Like Your Approach

I like how you seem open and are setting up times when you are available to us.
that is so great. I can't remember anyone else doing this. I am impressed to see
this and it reinforces my belief in democracy. That is not easy to do given
america's present state, but thanks for your openness.

It is refreshing.
1:37 pm edt 

Re: FinComm Appointment

"Is it that he is her husband or is it that he might start asking
responsible and serious questions of management."


Duanne and Mary Jo have a one track mind.  Get the Pier.  They are people who
can't believe the town moved on and has become a better place since the days MJ
was a selectman.  But, yes you are right, I would be surprised if Duanne asked
intelligent questions.
12:54 pm edt 

Re: My Door is Open

Hi There,

I always sign my name when I post on here.  if you would like to discuss the
building committee or anything else; I encourage you to:

1) email me at eyingling@provincetown-ma.gov

2) reach me on facebook at Selectman Erik Yingling
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Selectman-Erik-Yingling/401223329910253

3) visit me during office hours

4) schedule a time to meet up with me. I have free time on Sunday and Monday.

please save this information as I will not respond directly to anonymous posts.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Best,

Erik P. Yingling
12:52 pm edt 

Finance Committee Member

A previous blogger mentioned that Mary Jo appointed Duane Steele to the Finance
Committee.  He might just wind up surprising you all.  Sounds like people are
upset.  Is it that he is her husband or is it that he might start asking responsible
and serious questions of management.


12:14 pm edt 

Passing of Mr. James Parker

Did you expect to see an article on this.  Perhaps there will be some mention of
the incident in an obituary.  The accident involved a police officer. I'm sure
the officer is having a difficult time emotionally so we should have sympathy
for him as well as the family of Mr. Parker and offer our condolences.

I'm sure the entire police department from Police Chief Lynn on down are
grieving their loss.
12:05 pm edt 

Musings on Provincetown

Somebody posted that there are 3 people in key positions in Town
Government that have filed bankruptcy.  In actuality there are more but some
didn't admit it.

That's sad but failure builds strength.  Everybody fails at
something every day but move on. They don't quit life which brings me to a more
important issue.

A young lady was outside the local Stop & Shop last weekend
with petitions to get signatiures from the public. She had no brochures to hand
out or explain what it involved-just sign up sheets.

She didn't know if our District 10 State Rep or Stae Senator had endorsed the House
Bills to put anything of this nature on the ballot in the Nov.election.One was for Medical
Marijuana,one for people being able to fix their own cars (who knew that's not
allowed?).  One was for "Death by Dignity" which is the one that sent me into
orbit.

That's tantamount to euthenasia and against medical ethics.Medical
Insurance co's don't want to pay for cont'd elderly hospitalizat!
ions so doctor's can take them out!Medical oaths is to  do no harm.

Only God decides that and no one else!!
12:02 pm edt 

On Being Pet-Friendly

Started my day by cleaning up a massive pile of dog poop.  I am so
proud of Provincetown's pet friendly reputation. 

Thanks Candace.
11:58 am edt 

FinComm Appointments

"Why are people getting all upset."


Your Finance Committee is going to be hilarious this year.  If I had applied for
the committee and wasn't yet appointed I'd withdraw my name immediately.  A
minimum of three of the people on the committee are coming in with their own
personal agendas.  It's going to be a joke.  And the town joke will be on the
moderator who created this unworkable mess.

I pity the chair and staff who have to work with them.
11:55 am edt 

Dual Citizenship Conundrum

Dual citizenship in addition to dual places of residence to vote
should not be allowed. Why is it? Dual citizens should have to decide if they
want to permanently live in one country or another or in one state or another
which doesn't mean they can't visit other places or countries. I know some
people that have dual citizenship in U.S.A. and other foreign countries which
gives them special rights to take advantage of all priveleges offered (free and
otherwise)from both. Is this devoid of conscience or is it greed?

11:54 am edt 

Jim Parker's Death

I am glad someone has finally mentioned Jim Parker's death.  A 65 year
old disabled Provincetown resident is hit in a cross walk by a Provincetown
police  vehicle and our chief lies to a Banner reporter about the incident and 
Mr. Parker's injuries.  The investigation finds the officer at fault and
presents facts that  contradict the chief's false statements to the Banner.  Mr.
Parker spends months recuperating at Seashore Point and now Mr. Parker is dead. 
WTF????????????????
11:52 am edt 

Boycott Town Meeting

One way to protest Mary Jo's appointing her husband: no one show up to
Town Meeting in the fall. Without 100 Town voters, no Town Meeting can be held.

That will send a loud message about continued cronyism in Provincetown!
11:49 am edt 

FinComm - Appointments

So her choice was between an economist who is on the investment
advisory committee for his university and a gentleman who took his business into
bankruptcy and was then terminated by the town?  And anyone thinks Avellar is
doing what's best or the town?
11:46 am edt 

Town Moderator

"I have heard Ms. Avellar speaking at town meetings.  It appears to me
that she will do what is in the best interst of the town.  .  ."


Puhleeeeeze, Mary Jo will do what is in the best interest of Mary Jo.
11:44 am edt 

FinCom Appointments

"Why are people getting all upset."


It's not about Clarence Walker. It's the Duane Steele appointment. People aren't
upset. They are shocked.  She appointed her husband! Even Mary Jo's social
circle can't believe she actually did it.

The Stop & Shop hasn't been this abuzz in months.
4:53 am edt 

Tuesday, May 22, 2012

Candace Nagle

"Just heard a rumor that Ms. Nagle is going to fly up to the Building Committee
meetings this winter"


So we would get to spend more time with that bundle of joy!  Any way to let her
stay in FL if she is appointed. It is so nice and quiet on the lower Cape when
she, and the likes of her, are away.


10:30 pm edt 

Resident 1/3 of the Time
 
Could someone enlighten us as to what the residency laws are.  I thought the
resident requirements were six months and a day.  Have the laws changed?  Where
did this one-third of the time come from?
10:20 pm edt 

Erik Yingling

The arrogance displayed was by Erik and not the Town Moderator who was
doing  her job in 2010 to question attendance and time to serve on the crucial
Finance Committee.

The Finance Committee is charged with a volunteer, time consuming job that needs
fulltime attendance. Mr. Yingling, failed to disclose that although he lived in
Town year round he would miss a dozens of meetings while on the Finance
Committee, which should have disqualified him.

There! Now it is factual!
10:17 pm edt 

FinComm Appointments

I have heard Ms. Avellar speaking at town meetings.  It appears to me that she
will do what is in the best interst of the town.  She will appoint to the
FinCom, if she hasn't already, those individuals who have a working knowledge of
the town with some financial background.  I've had the opportunity to hear Mr.
Walker speaking and although I don't know him all that well, he seems to be a
very good candidate.  I've been told that Mr. Steele owned and operated a
successful local newspaper for many years so he must know something.

Why are people getting all upset.  Give it a chance, perhaps they could make
improvements.
10:14 pm edt 

Re: Legal Comment

You've mis-read the post. If a couple is married, own property in a town they
don't reside in continuously 12 months of the year and want to have a voice by
voting, one of the spouses may register in the town where the part-time property
is owned. The other spouse may choose to vote back where they live or even both
may register to vote in the part time town. Each person is only allowed to
register in one place only.

Don't read only the parts of the law that you want to pertain to your concern.
Read the entire law. Conversely, almost nobody but renters would be able to
register in Provincetown considering most property owners live elsewhere in the
winter thus, by your thinking, would disqualify them from registering here.
Wrong again Erik.
10:11 pm edt 

James Parker - Dead?!

On a completely different subject, I am surprised that there has been
no comments about the fact that James Parker, who was hit by a Provincetown
police car in December, died at the beginning of May. He was only in his early
60's. While the chief tried to blame Jim for getting hit, an independant police
investigation found that the officer driving the car was 100% at fault. But,
nothing was said about this by our unbiased Banner.

Hmmm.

10:06 pm edt 

Nagle - Building Committee Applicants

Actually, Nagle said she was richer, smarter and more effective than the other
applicants for the Building Committee. It is probably true of the selectmen, but
re-watching her interview Nagle compared herself only to the other applicants.
10:04 pm edt 

Re: Nagle

Your a good guy Clarence. Posting all this nonsence about Candice
this, Cnadice that-who cares. If someone wants to volunteer for a town board
position, God bless them. All the crap they take for whatever decision is made.

I still say we need to take a deep breath, enjoy the summer season, then come
back for the dirty stuff when all the tourists are gone.
10:01 pm edt 

Re: Nagle

"Just heard a rumor that ..."

And thus the problem.
7:30 pm edt 

Nagle

Just heard a rumor that Ms. Nagle is going to fly up to the Building
Committee meetings this winter. Now what are you going to do Erik?

Matchpoint!
5:55 pm edt 

Re: Nagle v Yingling

Re: "Nagle and Yingling put on a show for us. It was the Selectmen's
campaign in miniature. Who was offensive (most offensive)  depends only on where
you fall on the poor townie/rich wash ashore spectrum."


Whoa! Seriously? On what planet do the Yinglings, who own three successful
businesses here in town, qualify as "poor?" Erik can only go so far in trying to
paint himself as one of the common folk. We who are actually poor know better.

More like the "rich vs. richer spectrum."

Don't even know why I'm bothering sending this comment Clarence, because I know
you won't post it. The truth isn't always convenient, is it?
5:35 pm edt 

Re: Come on Cut Us Some Slack! Give it and Us a Break; Please!

"Words fail me. Have you listened to yourself. Read your words slowly. 
Muse the implication, there is a term for such manifestations it's termed
"Hedonism", self absorption.......leading to self delusional personality aspects
of grander.

Enough already, you're hitting my impathectic embarrassment zone."


We get it, you don't like Candace.  But, most of us realize she has accomplished
more in this town than most  others.  If she sets her mind to it it gets done.

Case in point - Candace wants to see a dog fountain in front of town hall.  She
fundraises, gets enough to make it happen, follows it through and gets it done. 
Another resident decides they want to do something about the town hall
auditorium chairs.  That resident goes to the BOS to get a town hall auditorium
chair gift fund set up and that's as far as it ever went.  According to the
accounting department the only deposit ever made to that gift fund was from the
Provincetown Business Guild.  Had Candace put that on her agenda it would have
been done a couple of years ago.
5:28 pm edt 

Re: Building Committee

Who in the world would Start a Petition for Candace Nagle?

It just doesn't make sense. the BOs will choose who the five memebers will be.
that is it. This petition is a figment of someone's imagination and I sadly
think I know whose imagination we're talking about.
5:25 pm edt 

Re: Legal Comment

I believe you only have to live somewhere for 1/3 of the year to be
considered legal to vote. Call town hall and ask the town clerk.

PJ
5:22 pm edt 

Re: Building Committee

"If there is a petition going around supporting Ms. Nagle's application
to the BC, kudos to her for...."



Campaigning for what? Is this about the police station, the DPW project or the
dog kennel within the police station?

Can we really afford 4 building committee members devoted to the DPW and Police
while 1 is wholly devoted to the Animal Control Officer?
5:20 pm edt 

Mr. Blogmaster

I see you are up to your continued censorship of
comments that don't reflect well on your inner circle.

You continue to be a joke.
5:18 pm edt 

Re: Legal Comment

"If she owns property in Provincetown, she has the legal right to register to
vote there. "


That's not true and potentially dangerous advice. I hope the webmaster will
properly caveat that post. Please consult a lawyer.


Webmaster Comment: Ms. Nagle owns property in Provincetown and is registered to vote in Provincetown, assuming she is not registered elsewhere,
her bona fides meet the  requirements for citizenship and thus the right to vote. 

Issues concerning Town Board qualifications are governed by Town Charter provisions.
5:00 pm edt 

Nagle Petition

If there is a petition going around supporting Ms. Nagle's application
to the BC, kudos to her for building public consensus! I'll sign it!
4:25 pm edt 

Re: Legal Comment

I'd suggest concerned citizens  call your lawyer. By the way,  the law
doesn't care where your spouse lives only the voter.
No doubt however,  it's illegal to vote where you don't live. It's simple it's
the law.
4:20 pm edt 

Come on Cut Us Some Slack! Give it and Us a Break; Please!

"Say what you want about Ms Nagle's manner, but she's right. She has
the proven experience to get things done, work with a team, and do a fabulous
job. She's brilliant.
They should put her in charge of the entire building
project
. If the BOS does not appoint her, they are fools playing politics and
not acting in the best interest of the town."

 
Words fail me. Have you listened to yourself. Read your words slowly.
Muse the implication, there is a term for such manifestations it's
termed "Hedonism", self absorption.......leading to self delusional
personality aspects of grander.

Enough already, you're hitting my impathectic embarrassment zone.
4:01 pm edt 

Candace Nagle

Say what you want about Ms Nagle's manner, but she's right. She has
the proven experience to get things done, work with a team, and do a fabulous
job.  She's brilliant. They should put her in charge of the entire building
project. If the BOS does not appoint her, they are fools playing politics and
not acting in the best interest of the town.
3:57 pm edt 

Re: Legal Comment

You're wrong. (And lets face it, it's pointed towards Nagle) If she owns
property in Provincetown, she has the legal right to register to vote there. It
doesn't matter where you sleep. It's not as if she votes here without reason. In
her case, she has a vested interest to vote in Provincetown. The law also allows
people from out of state to register here, one spouse here and the other back
where they live the rest of the year. Perfectly legal. To the other direction,
and it's something that is bringing Provincetown down, is the fact and legal
right for a person that rents and owns nothing to register to vote here. That
means they can be on boards and vote for tax overrides and taxpayer funded
articles while paying no taxes to the system.
If you don't want her on the board Erik, just don't vote in favor but stop
making yourself look foolish with your nonsense here and at the meetings.

And no, I'm not Nagle, I'm not a pro Bedard voter and no, I'm not a town
employee.
1:27 pm edt 

Ms. Candace Nagle

The arrogance displayed was by Ms. Nagle and not Erik Y.who was doing
his job to question herability and time to serve on a crucial building committee
now The building committee is charged with a volunteer,time consuming job that
needs fulltime attendance. Ms.Nagle,by her own admission,is away 5 months of the
year so that should disqualify her.  She recruited a retired former police
officer to circulate a petition for her to get names on her behalf that request
Bd.of S. to appoint her by popular demand.  How arrogant is that?
1:21 pm edt 

Town Positions

How many people do we have serving in important town positions  whose
professional lives include bankruptcy in their resume? I count at least three.
This sounds a little sad for our town.
10:12 am edt 

Re: FinComm Appointment

Re: "Please provide a list of the very "qualified applicants" that
applied for a seat on FinComm?"


I won't publicly name the person who applied, but the Banner article stated
three people applied to be on FinCom.  If you google the one person of the three
who has not been appointed you may find his affilitations listed on-line:

UMass Foundation Investment Advisory Committee
UMass Amherst Economics Department Advisory Board
Mamaroneck Schools Foundation

You want to tell me the moderator's husband has better financial qualifications
than this gentleman?  I'm not buying it.  The moderator is playing political
games.
9:57 am edt 

Erik Yingling

Sounds like Yingling needs to man-up to be a Selectman reading these
posts! Grow another layer of skin to cover that fragile ego of yours.
Provincetown citizens have every right to criticize their elected officials as
well as compliment them.
9:25 am edt 

Re: FinComm Appointment

"Yes, she thinks that's OK. There were some very qualified applicants that
applied for FinCom, but her first two appointments were Clarence Walker and her
husband, Duane Steele."



Please provide a list of the very "qualified applicants" that applied for a
seat on FinComm?
8:54 am edt 

FinComm Appointment

"I just heard a rumor that Mary Jo has now appointed her husband to
FinCom?  Tell me that can't be true.  Does she really think that is OK?"



Yes, she thinks that's OK.  There were some very qualified applicants that
applied for FinCom, but her first two appointments were Clarence Walker and her
husband, Duane Steele.  Prior to the elections someone wrote of 'taking the town
back' and getting rid of the gay washashores.  Didn't believe him or her then,
but do now.
8:49 am edt 

Legal Comment

This is not directed to any individual, but a word to the wise. If you are
effectively living in another town and using an address of convenience in
Provincetown to receive or retain privileges of  voting, access to public
services, or to avoid taxes, you risk serious consequences.

Voting in a jurisdiction other than the one you live can be a felony in
Massachusetts. The legal term is "domicile" and it has mostly been defined by
the Supreme Judicial Court. Some guides are online, but common sense prevails.

If any of this is familiar to your circumstance, please consult a lawyer.
8:47 am edt 

Okay, Enough of the Offensive Olympics

Nagle and Yingling put on a show for us. It was the Selectmen's campaign in
miniature.

Who was offensive (most offensive)  depends only on where you fall on the poor
townie/rich wash ashore spectrum. It's just like the Anderson/Yingling  YOU'RE
OUT OF ORDER debacle.

Next topic please:

Provincetown Police on the Pier:  Armed camp or sanctuary of safety?
8:45 am edt 

Provincetown Board of Health

Does the BOH know now that a lot of the REGULATIONS and LAWS that the
chair was using to push the other members his way were really just the personal
opinion of the county employee? After a group meeting tonight, a lot of us
wonder if the rest of the board should just stop and go back to the drawing
board. Everything now talk about seems to be done through using the terms "the
spirit of" or the "intent of" and not the regulation itself. Why? Things are
just being added at each meeting by the chair as if it was always there. They
wrote and past a regulation, it is as it is.

One board member states that the new space written policy was not even voted on.

And now this notarized agreement to sign. We cannot believe that the other board
members had enough time to read "between the lines". (And this was never voted
on either). It is so nasty (stick a knife in the back nasty). Is it even legal?
In the case of an emergency they would still use this to close a place down.
Really!?! What happened to reading the regulation, applying, discussion and
approval or not? When has this ever been done before?

Maybe the town needs to re-use town council and re-evaluate that two board
members (one being the chair) are guesthouse owners and how this new regulation
is drastically attacking the day-to-day operations of the inns (just look at the
names of those applying) and not their places. Why is it okay that they, their
staff and guests can all hang out on their guesthouse decks or porches with
drinks, food and cigarettes? Especially how the chair is and has been bullying
this through. Why is this not an ethics problem? Can town council not see this
now or does the state needs to come in?
8:32 am edt 

Note to the Cabal

IT'S OVER.  YOU LOST. THE ELECTORATE SPOKE AND
OVERWHELMINGLY. Now start using your energies, time and talents to help advance
the town's projects.  That is, if you truly care about the town.
8:29 am edt 

Candace: Give it up!

You were not treated poorly. You were simply interviewed. Get off Erik Yinglin's
case. We surely know it is it you and you again attacking him. give it up.
8:28 am edt 

Candace and Crew: The Boat You Were on Sank

It is what it is. Your operation failed. Your captain could not steer his ship
to victory. all the wishing and wanting could not change the results: Bedard
lost and he lost significantly.

Time to jump ship kids!
8:27 am edt 

Glad That Bedard Did Not Win

If those who continually speak for him were to dominate the BOS. then I'm glad
Bedard lost. These angry voters are just too much. theya re hateful, negative
and poor losers.

Yes, you lost. It's over. Erik is the town overwhelming choice--not Bedard. not
his supporters. Over and done
8:25 am edt 

We Are Not Special Town Employees

Get a life. If we sit on a board, we sit on a board. We can campagin, enocurage
candidates and support who we want. We are different from twon employees. this
as bad as though who love to use "washashore" to define some of us. We are
simply here.
8:23 am edt 

Herring Cove?

Regarding the BOS meeting of May 14th and the talk of Herring Cove
Beach being renamed New Beach as it was named way back when, when Route 6 was
extended to reach the beach, is ludicrous.  How un romantic a name is New Beach! 
It gives no sense of place it is just plain dull.   As the person speaking made
note that she had no real idea where the name Herring Cove came from but from
some old map is just plain ignorant.  Why not research the name Herring Cove,
perhaps it has some significance as it did or does appear on some old map as the
speaker stated.  The name Herring Cove conjure's up some excitement and interest
and romance rather than such a generic, empty, boring name as New Beach and
memorialize it for a highway that reaches it.
8:21 am edt 

Stop Being such Poor Losers!

Erik WON. GET OVER IT!

THE Bd. of S. needs a few more like Erik Yingling to question motives and
private agendas rather than what is in the best interest of the town's taxpayers
collectively.Selectmen are designated to serve the citizens and need to instruct
their employee,the town manager to bring management into line as public servants
to the taxpayers and not look the other way when mgmnt. abuses are allowed to
continue.  Management must be accountable for every minute of their time and
make sure they provide a daily log for public scrutiny of their comings and
goings.  Don't be fooled by them telling that they don't have to.  The town
manager must insist on it to avoid what the public knows and witnesses to be
true.
8:19 am edt 

Candace Nagle

If I know Candace, she has already secured her three votes.

Mark xxxx
8:15 am edt 

Monday, May 21, 2012

Very Arrogant and Ignorant

I'm watching the BOS meeting where they interviewed Ms. Nagle. I'm shocked at
how combative and ignorant Yingling is to this person. I'm not going to tell you
I'm a big fanof hers but if Erik doesn't know her resume, where has he been? His
interviewing "skills" are going to keep people away from volunteering. Why be
badgered and demeaned in public like that? And how arrogant is he (or is he just
clueless) regarding "filling a seat" on a committee??? What did he accomplish on
the fincom? How many times was he not there? And he lives in town!! No doubt
he's going to vote for people he can manipulate toward his views as opposed to
good people with the towns best interests at heart.
8:58 pm edt 

Re: Committee or Board Members Are Classified as "Special Town Employees"

Re: "Being on a Town Board is not the Same as Being a Town Employee"


If you haven't heard of an appointed town volunteer being classified as a
special town employee you may wish to visit the state's ethics web site.
8:55 pm edt 

Re: Nepotisim is Not How a Town Should be Run

"almost every department of town government here,and every where else
for that matter.  It's a human condition.Do your homework  first.  You know not
of what you say!"


Didn't say it doesn't exist, said it shouldn't.  Current situation at town hall
is a disaster, but I suppose if it's lifetime residents that makes it OK, huh?
8:54 pm edt 

Committee or Board Members Are Classified as "Special Town Employees"

State Ethics Commission Advisory 11-1: Public Employee Political
Activity

Committee or Board members are classified as "Special Town Employees" under
state law, whether or not they receive any compensation. Here is a link to the
State Ethics Commission web page that defines what political activities a town
employee may or may not not engage in.

http://www.mass.gov/ethics/education-and-training-resources/info-section-7/advisories/advisory-11-1.html
8:48 pm edt 

Erik Yingling

Geez, now Erik et. al are posting misinformation about where his
constituents live? Let's talk about his poor documented attendance on FinCom
taken from the Town's website and televised hypocriticism at his first meeting.

Be very careful, Eric might have you in his crosshairs next if you gainsay him
on any matter! But, it won't really matter with the passage of time: all will
see his true flawed character: petty, immature and vindictive.
8:41 pm edt 

FinCom Appointment?

I just heard a rumor that Mary Jo has now appointed her husband to
FinCom?  Tell me that can't be true.  Does she really think that is OK?
8:39 pm edt 

Nepotism is Not How a Town Should be Run

Whether it has always happened or is hapeening, town employees and their spouses
should not be involved in holding sings for candidates for the BOS. this is
wrong. Plain and simple.
8:36 pm edt 

Shrinking School Population

If You have only 8 Students in the Junior class
then you will have only 8 students--or even less--in the senior class at the
high school. this means that the high school--building and all--could have been
closed next year.

why then were the elementary students moved into the high school? they should
have stayed in the building designed for them and then sell or decide on the
high school. it could have been the new police station and DPW. There it is with
parking and a good location.

But someone was playing odd games here. Move the younger kids in and "protect"
this building. Then shift DPW to the elementary school with huge bills for
heating and asbestos.

Can't we have clear thinking in this town and is this the warped thinking and
planning of a few to make certain that the police have a new, sparkling
building--and not anything the town already owns?
8:33 pm edt 

Try Taking the Absences of That Guy Jansen on Board of Health

He is totally away all winter. He was not here this winter for any meetings and
he was absent last winter for all the meetings. Talk about absences. He should
not even be on any town board. he is an absent memeber and his absences should
preclude his being on. It is the respnsibility of the chair to get him off after
three unexcused absences. The chair cannot and should not allow this one person
to sit only when he is tired of florida and is here for the summer.

That is not an excused reason for not being here and upholding the
responsibility of the position.

That is why Candace Nagle should not be chosen for the Building Committee. she
is not here during the tough stance. Be in florida and enjoy but don't assume
you can be in two places at once. You can't.


3:28 pm edt 

Re: Town Board Committee Members

RE: "Being on a Town Board is not the Same as Being a Town Employee"



Know the law before you speak.
3:25 pm edt 

Town Nepotism

It was obvious that one blogger or maybe a lot of them don't know
that family members (also called nepotism) exists in almost every department of
town government here,and every where else for that matter.  It's a human
condition.Do your homework  first.  You know not of what you say!
1:37 pm edt 

Perfect Fanboy Response

" Yes, the budget went up this year - for the first time in seven years.  If the
rest of your comments are as factual as your school budget comment your writings
aren't worth reading."



WOW! Perfect Fanboy response:

Your facts are correct (but inconvenient) so are the other factual things you
say must be also be ignored.

HA!


1:29 pm edt 

State of the Town

Re: "We endless are asked to applaud simple successes like getting our
tax rate approved.  Or not being on the DOR watch list."




The glass is half full to some, half empty to others, I'm not sure you even have
a glass.  For years this town was unable to set its tax rate on time and was on
the DOR watch list.  And for years no one was able to resolve either of those
issues.

It doesn't matter to me whether you want to applaud the fact that we set our tax
rate on time or that we were finally removed from the DOR watch list.  But, I'm
willing to applaud that progress is being made and it appears the town's
financial records are in better shape than they have been in years.
1:26 pm edt 

No Quorum No Meeting

"The absent chair designates a present board member to act as chair.There are no
cliff notes to mass general laws for you."


If a quorum isn't in the room, no one can participate remotely or otherwise.
Where the the Chairman is doesn't matter. No quorum No Meeting. Remote doesn't
count.


1:18 pm edt 

Town Board Committee Members

Being on a Town Board is not the Same as Being a Town Employee

If you are on a board, you can support any candidate you want. You are not
precluded. And if you were going to use such an incorrect reading, then you
should look at BOS members who stood there with signs for Davaid Bedard and
those on other boards that stood at town hall election day holding Bedard signs.

Town employees are different and even their spouses should not be holding signs.
But, gee, guys: there you go again. they were and whose signs were they holding:
yes, Bedard's.

Time to drop the old, tired complaints against Erik. time to move on and take
your disappointments with you.
1:15 pm edt 

Thou Protest Too Much

Here's Eric's poor attendance record on FinCom taken from
the Town's website:

Jan 6 2011 DIDN'T ATTEND
Jan 24 2011 DIDN'T ATTEND
Feb 8 2011 DIDN'T ATTEND
Feb 10 2011 ARRIVED LATE
Feb \15 2011 DIDN'T ATTEND
March 30 2011 DIDN'T ATTEND
April 4 2011 ARRIVED LATE
June 27 2011 DIDN'T ATTEND
July 14 2011 DIDN'T ATTEND
Sept 212011 DIDN'T ATTEND
Oct 6 2011 DIDN'T ATTEND
Oct 13 2011 DIDN'T ATTEND
Oct 24 2011 DIDN'T ATTEND

Erik could have built a bigger glass house?


1:06 pm edt 

Election Rules

It's apparent that election rules are not the only rules that elected officials
and management are not knowledgable about. There are other required regulations
either they don't know or simply choose to ignore.
1:04 pm edt 

Volunteer Work - Change of Heart

Couple of years ago, I moved here because I'm location neutral. I do
go away for a couple of months in the winter.  I was thinking about doing some
volunteer work or joining a board. But have decided against it after following
this board and a politican's nasty postings about someone with a similar
lifestyle to me.
1:03 pm edt 

Time for the Bedard Campaign to Say "Goodnight!"

Time to stop attacking Erik Yingling. Time to let be what is. Time to let this
new selectman do his job and then be judged.

You seem bitter and driven to continually attack him when he has only been at
one bos meeting.

Maybe you should do what most of us are doing: give him time, judge what he does
do, and then come to your rational conclusion.

Too much anger with you guys. Too much vindictiveness.
1:01 pm edt 

Give It Up Guys. Your Candidate Lost

How many postings against Erik Yingling do you do? sorry, but you lost. Bedard
is gone. Yingling is there and he is bright, present, and intelligent. Give it
up. You lost.
12:59 pm edt 

BOH Chair Should be Removed For Excessive Use of Authority

"Mark Phillips has taken it upon himself to stuff his own beliefs down
the throats of high-tax paying business owners."


I couldn't agree more. I was there. I've been to many of the meetings. This guy
is crazy-pushy with his agenda. I'm all for the health of the community, however
what I'm not in favor of is someone acting like a dictator and screwing with
good business people's livelihoods. Hell, even the WORKERS who don't smoke are
against this new Nazi-like regulation. We live on the ocean, for God sake. The
wind blows! (But apparently less than the great wind emitting from Mark
Phillips.)

To other members of the BOH--It is time for you to stand up for your good
friends and children and associates who run fine businesses in this town, pay
their taxes, provide joy to our tourists and make Ptown what it is. Do not
pander any more to this man's agenda. He has screwed up his own business and now
he's out for blood on others who have done well. He must go. I agree. He must
go. Selectmen? Are you reading?
12:57 pm edt 

Ms Nagle

Not in PT 4 mos , how about not at all.  She may have property here but lives in
Truro with her partner and not since she put her house up for sale.

If you want to be on a board at least be living in town the other 8 months!

Dog Lover

12:55 pm edt 

Board of Selectmen/Town Manager

Erik Yingling asked a perfectly sensible question for the benefit of
voters who will foot the bills when he asked what a building committees function
is.  Most voters don't know that and some officials don't either! On another
note: I've been called a lot of things but never mommy or grandma! I haven't had
a sex change to qualify for those roles yet!I do know the blogger is a fast
talker with untruthful facts thst said "non-exempt employees get the same salary
for 35 hours or 60 hours of work" that's their explanation for abuse of town
time.  Then maybe we taxpayers need to cut management salaries & pay for just 35
hrs. because some aren't even working that much and we all know it. A precedent
has been set when some mamagement personnel have been paid for every minute
over 40 hours. Check your records! It's a fact Whoever told you that management
doesn't have to be accountable for their time is talking about private industry
not town government paid with taxpayers money.  Management must be transparent and accountable to taxpayers who pay
theirn salaries.
12:50 pm edt 

Town Hall Staff Drama?

Anyone know anything about the basement drama last week with Town
staff? Heard the police had to be called and they carted a town employee off the
premises!

Was there an arrest?


12:47 pm edt 

BOS Building Committee Applicant Interviews

I just finished watching the BOS meeting of last Monday.      [What] was with
Candace Nagle?  What a       she is.  Unbelieveable!
12:46 pm edt 

You Lost He Won - Give it Up!

It is apparent that some people are unwilling to accept the fact that
Erik Yingling won.

Repeated negative comments by richer, more intelligent and prospectively
absent candidates will not change the fact that he won.

It is not expected that they can absorb this reality, as they continually
use their extensive leisure time not to reflect on the blessings of their
personal condition, but to spill out vindictive invectives.

So much for team playing. Is it always necessary to win all of the marbles?

You have a basic existential problem. Try smelling the roses as apposed to 
throwing bricks.

 
12:42 pm edt 

Erik Yingling

If Yingling doesn't know what the Building Committee is suppose to do,
how would he know anything about remote participation? Maybe instead of his
posting every five minutes here, he can start doing his homework on what he
needs to know to represent Provincetown voters.
12:23 pm edt 

Re: Board of Selectmen / Town Manager

"Where are they? Management cannot come and go as they please. .  ."


Well yes, they can, that's why they are managers.  Check the FLSA ( fair labor
standards act).  I realize you believe an employee who is paid an hourly rate
should be treated the same as an exempt management employee, but by law they are
not.  An hourly employee who shows up late for work is paid only for the hours
worked.  An exempt employee is paid a salary and is paid that salary if they
work 30 hours or 60 hours.

Sorry, the law is not on your side.  Check with most management personnel for
the town, they would LOVE to get paid for all the hours they work.
12:20 pm edt 

Erik Yingling

Erik you still don t understand remote participation.
The absent chair designates a present board member to act as chair.
There are no cliff notes to mass general laws for you.
12:18 pm edt 

Tell the Truth

I was driving on newly paved roads this morning. Don't go on and on about
unpaved Roads. Out town worker work hard and are good workers.

Too bad you don't understand that this town has had major water and sewer work
undertaken. This town has undergone major surgury of its infrastructure and by
next summer it will be whole again.
12:16 pm edt 

Claws are Out!

Meow! Meow! Someone has their claws out for Candice. Look at what she has
accomplished! I truly believe that Candice will give this committee 100 percent
of her attention if she is nominated.

The committee has at its finger tips all of the work done since 2009. They can
start viewing the available properites the day after they are chosen.

The Police Dept website lists the available properties that have been considered
and this committee can investigate them too. We are only talking about a handful
of properties. Not two dozen--perhapes 6 or 8 properties at the most and they
can examine all of them in 6 or 7 days.

This is a committee of comitteed and conscientious people who are all probably
tax payers. They are grounded and serious about this undertaking. Too bad they
haven't been chosen already.

The problem is that their findings won't be publised except on the website and
the occasional article in the banner.
12:14 pm edt 

Provincetown Board of Selectmen/Town Manager

"Where are they? Management cannot come and go as they please.  They
must set and example and be held to a higher standard if anything. A union
leader in another building said mgmn't doesn't have the same set of rules. 
Since when?  They better not!!"


Ask the right people and you will be able to piece together which family is on
the warpath and why.   This town should have a rule that no family members may
work in the same department.

12:09 pm edt 

DPW Fleet

School enrollment continues to decline but the budget is going up.
Test scores place the district in the bottom 5% in the state (yes 95% of Mass
schools are better than our schools)


I don't have the time to respond to all your remarks, however the response about
the school budget going up is mis-leading at best.  Yes, the budget went up this
year - for the first time in seven years.  If the rest of your comments are as
factual as your school budget comment your writings aren't worth reading.
12:07 pm edt 

Sunday, May 20, 2012

Re: DPW Fleet

" two of them on FinCom will find all those magical pots of money you think are
out there"


Nope...  no pots of money. But we do have a bigger budget, spend more and do
less than similar towns in the State.

We have fewer roads to pave, but don't.

We own a dozen town owned buildings, but can't keep them painted much less
repaired.

School enrollment continues to decline but the budget is going up. Test scores
place the district in the bottom 5% in the state (yes 95% of Mass schools are
better than our schools)

We endless are asked to applaud simple successes like getting our tax rate
approved.  Or not being on the DOR watch list. (no towns are the list,it barely
exists anymore).
I could go on but it's back to work.



12:36 pm edt 

Re: Election Laws

RE: "I wonder if anyone knows what the rules are for Town employees
supporting a candidate in a local election.  Let's be specific."


Town employees may support a candidate for office, they may even campaign for
the candidate.  They may not do it while working for the town and they may not
do it in their official capacity.  That's why the support of the now FinCom
Chair and Vice chair were in violation when they were listed on Yingling's web
site as supporting him as a finance committee member.  You do not lose your
rights to support a candidate because you have a position, but you may not use
your position to support a candidate.

I was surprised that even our former town moderator didn't know this basic rule.
12:32 pm edt 

Re: Candace Nagle v BOS

" even knowing about remote participation:Massachusetts Open Meeting Law 940 CMR
29.00, section 29.10"


Just because an applicant says she is richer, smarter and more effective than
me, her appointment requires other poorer dumber and lazy townies must be the
ones to muster a quorum. Because remote participation doesn't count for a
quorum.

Boards and Committee's must have a quorum in the posted meeting room. Remote
participation is not counted towards the quorum requirement.

Selectmen: We need need enough poor and dumb appointees to stay here and make a
quorum for the building committee before you start appointing the richest,
smartest, Key Westian, members.


Here is the law: 29.10: "Remote Participation  (4) (b)

A quorum of the body, including the chair or, in the chairs absence, the person
authorized to chair the meeting, shall be physically present at the meeting
location, as required by M.G.L. c. 30A, sec 20(d);"


12:27 pm edt 

BOH

How can a full time member be consistently
absent during 2011 and 2012 winter
meetings? This is not only unfair but in
clear violation of the Charter which
states dismissal after 3 consecutive
unexcused meetings. If he was excused
how could this go on for 2 winters?
11:33 am edt 

MYPACC Embargo

We had our first selectmen's meeting with Erik Y. on the board for the first
time.

Strange how there are no postings printed here (or allowed to be printed here)
regarding his "performance".

I'd suggest folks go and watch him on PTV, which is what I did on my computer.

I'm less than impressed. People voted out Bedard in order to put this
non-grown-up on the board?
11:31 am edt 

Provincetown Board of Selectmen/Town Manager

Does any body even know or care that either the Town Manager or the
assistant town manager must be available in the Town Hall at all times? The town
manager's off for a week and the asst. town mgr. wasn't thereeither and no one
knew where he was or if he'd be in.  Who does top level management report
to?

There's over two hundred thousand dollars worth in those two positions! Then
there's the building commissioner who should be available in the office  to
answer building questions everyday while his building inspector is out in the
field. That's another hundred and eighteen thousand dollars for a total of
$330,000.00 for 4 staff personnel in 2 depts, that are never available! 

Where are they? Management cannot come and go as they please.  They must
set and example and be held to a higher standard if anything. A union leader in
another building said mgmn't doesn't have the same set of rules.  Since when?  They
better not!!
11:28 am edt 

Rogovsky was Handled as He should be

No problem. he presneted his ideas and why should the BOS ask questions if they
don't have any to ask Rogosky. No problem here and no disrepsect. also, Candace
nagle was treated as well as she should be. She is the one who stated that her
being away for four months might be a problme. If any selectman asked questions
about that, Nagle is the one who brought this absence as a potential problem.
good that some did ask her the pointed question she herself brough up.
11:24 am edt 

Erik Yingling

'Dead weight?' That was Erik on Fincom as he missed over 40% of its
meetings when a member. He was always behind the curve.

Yingling was a hypocrite drilling candidates about whether or not they were year
rounders suggesting their meeting attendance would be better than those who
weren't here year round . Yeah, Yingling I think all the candidates would have a
better attendance record than your lousy one on FinCom. So much for your
'year-rounder theory.'

Yingling get with it and bone up on Mass General Laws! You were caught flat
footed not even knowing about remote participation:
Massachusetts Open Meeting Law 940 CMR 29.00, section 29.10

Finally Chair Knight had to cut you off and gave you the hook because you
weren't understanding the concept of 'remote participation.'
11:21 am edt 

Provincetown Board of Selectmen/Town Manager

"The abuses by management personnel and inspectors of town time and
taxpayers money is abominable! Who is keeping track?"


It's basic labor law that governs employee record keeping and pay.  Non-exempt
employees are paid an hourly rate and are paid overtime when they work more than
40 hours in a week.  Exempt employees are paid a salary to do their job.  They
get paid the same salary whether they work 35 hours or they work 60 hours. 
Should you require exempt employees to track their hours and be paid by the hour
you would run the risk of them being reclassified as non-exempt employees and
subject to overtime.

Most exempt employees would be more than happy to be classed non-exempt and get
paid overtime.  Can you imagine the overtime bill for the management employees
working town meeting or attending BOS meetings?  If you want them to start
punching a time clock and get paid overtime I'm pretty sure they'd be willing,
but I don't think the town can afford it.

Sorry, different rules apply to management personnel than to hourly employees.
11:19 am edt 

Provincetown Award

SAN ANTONION AND PROVINCETOWN AWARD

My cousin lives in San Antonio and said that Provincetown is getting an award
from a national organization. It is taking place in San Antonio with all of
these officials.

I don't see anything about it in the banner.
11:17 am edt 

King Erik

Erik must feel so entitled. The entire town is introduced to him during this
first meeting with him on the board--and he eats during the meeting. He asks for
a 5 minute recess.

So entitled. How many hours a week did he spend studying the issues? Did he
first hear of them at the meeting?

Why didn't he ask about the function of the building committee? Why ask the town
manager during the meeting what their function was?

He likes to hear himself talk. He asks inane questions. Oh poor Provincetown.
What have you voters wrought?
11:15 am edt 

DPW Fleet

"I'm not wrong. The Town Charter only requires vote by Town Meeting on
Capital Improvements. It does not require they be paid by override."


Rumor has it the blog master has gotten his buddy, the town moderator, to
appoint him to FinCom.  Now when she ignores all common sense and appoints her
husband the two of them on FinCom will find all those magical pots of money you
think are out there.
10:50 am edt 

Provincetown Board of Selectmen/Town Manager

"The abuses by management personnel and inspectors of town time and
taxpayers money is abominable! Who is keeping track? Time to reinstall time
clocks and "sign in-sign out" boards. . ."

Is this grandma or mommy?
10:41 am edt 

Election Laws

Since some wish to continue to re-litigate the election, I wonder if anyone
knows what the rules are for Town employees supporting a candidate in a local
election.  Let's be specific.

Town Manager
Direct reports to Town Manager
Middle managers
Union employees.

What are the laws?
10:40 am edt 

Re: Board of Health

"The Board of Health has held numerous meetings since February but the Chair of
said board has been terribly neglectful in his duty to have the minutes
approved."



I don't know what the rules are in Provincetown, but in New Jersey, regulatory
boards actions cannot take effect until a waiting period after approved minutes
are posted. This  is so the public can object to the Governor, or Mayor-City
Council who can send the rulings back to the board for reconsideration.

If that isn't the case in Provincetown you might wish to consider a similar
bylaw. It seems like a lot of monkey business with the board minutes this year?
10:37 am edt 

Saturday, May 19, 2012

To: Webmaster

Great! Now we have the webmaster refusing to post anything that
challenges the Selectman he supported or makes him accountible.

And you talk about government transparency Clarence. Why don't you lead by
example here for a nice change.
4:32 pm edt 

Board of Health Chair Out of Control

The Board of Health has held numerous meetings since February but the
Chair of said board has been terribly neglectful in his duty to have the minutes
approved. It is clear that he did this in order to quell any discussion about
his (yes his--it's clearly a PERSONAL agenda on his part) new, silly, over the
top regulations concerning smoking in outdoor areas. I know that in many years
of working in a restaurant here in town there has NEVER been a case where a
problem arose between a smoking patron and a non-smoking patron in an outdoor
area. And quite frankly, the smokers are usually the ones who are most sensitive
to the issue. No one wants to willingly offend another--and cooperation abounds
concerning this issue. Yes, everyone knows smoking is not a healthy thing but
there is a sense that the BOH has taken it upon themselves to restrict, to the
point of nonsense, an activity that is perfectly legal in this state. Mark
Phillips has taken it upon himself to stuff his own beliefs down the throats of
high-tax paying business owners. Moreover, he has now come up with an
unprecedented "contract" that each business owner who has been allowed a
designated smoking area must sign. In my opinion the Board of Selectmen should
review this man's record and begin procedures to remove him.

He is tyrannical and wholly out of control.
2:50 pm edt 

DPW Fleet

I'm not wrong. The Town Charter only requires vote by Town Meeting on
Capital Improvements. It does not require they be paid by override.
Provincetown has a huge budget relative to it's size.  Even when you factor in
some tourist demand on resources.

2:44 pm edt 

DPW Fleet

"That's simply not true. The town has plenty of money for routine
machinery and fleet purchases. Most other towns keep fleets operable and in good
working order . . ."


Two points.
First -you are wrong.  The town's charter requires fleet replacement vehicles be
part of the capital improvement program.  I'm not sure where you would get the
idea that the town has plenty of money.
Second - the DPW staff does the best job they can to keep the fleet operable and
in good working order, but some of the equipment they are now trying to keep
working is over 12 yrs old.  I've heard that because the override failed they
are going to have to spend $ to repair old vehicles.  It doesn't make sense to
spend $10,000 to repair a vehicle that is worth less than $1,000, but that's
what they will now have to do, throw good money after bad.
12:27 pm edt 

Provincetown Board of Selectmen/Town Manager

WAKE UP!

The abuses by management personnel and inspectors of town time and taxpayers money is
abominable! Who is keeping track? Time to reinstall time clocks and "sign
in-sign out" boards. Time to open all offices except sanitation workers,at 8
a.m.,close at 5 p.m.,with 1 hour for lunch,not 2 or more as some do,and have
people answer the phones in every office. Time to designate one person to go out
and get coffee for all on 15 minute breaks or put in a coffee pot or machine in
the buildings
12:24 pm edt 

Police Station

I would like to suggest to the BOS and the building committee that they meet
with Joe Duarte about his building. Do not try to dictate to him like the last
discussions about his whole property but try to get into honest negotiations
about his building or property or part of his property/building. Maybe a long
term lease with first option on the property etc. etc. Maybe some sort of tax
break incentive. Who knows it just might work and it is the BEST location for
the police station being in the center of of the town. An opening on conwell
street making it easy to get to the highway etc.
12:22 pm edt 

Re: Candace Nagle v BOS

"Yingling also treated Ms. Nagle like an enemy, while he was
disrespectful of Mr. Coen."


Nagle was over the top, and disrespectful of the entire Board. She boasted
repeatedly that she was smarter, richer (better than) and more effective than
any townie who stays here in the winter.

I've got it saved for t-tube. Incredible
12:20 pm edt 

BOH Minuets

You are right there are only 2 meetings posted on the
web site. Prior to this past Thursday's meeting no other
2012 minuets have been approved. Maybe they finally
caught up with the required approvals but why take so
long?
12:16 pm edt 

BOH Smoking Regulations

Just thinking? Why should anyone try to obey the new BOH regulation?
Those that do are mocked. More than 50% of the places ignore it. and those that
oppose it the most walk past violators, sit in their places and ignore the lack
of no regard. i guess that they want to be popular and are afraid to have a
backbone? Maybe people should boycott their businesses, since have so little
regard in protecting ours. i almost want to list them and have "many people
willing" iphone photo of them sitting in the bad places and sitting on a board
smirking.
8:45 am edt 

Erik Yingling

"He will go in to a meeting with an open mind because he mostly likely will not
have even read the material in advance."


What we will now see is someone that will continuously ask for the matter to be
continued to the next meeting or wait for more input, not for more real debate
or fact gathering but for him to read the material and then have his "advisors"
advise him as to what to do once all the other selectmen have shown their cards.
And his agreeing with everyone that comes to the mike, thats just sucking up.
All the newbies do that.
8:42 am edt 

BOS Meeting

Watching the PTV coverage of the latest BOS meeting shocked me.
The questioning of the applicants for the Building Committee were not treated
fairly.  Some were treated with respect, while others were met with hostility or
disregarded.

I don't know Mr. Rogofsky but was impressed with the homework he did in
preparation for the meeting, and with his rational thinking- don't build a
'fancy' police station but build one that adequately meets the needs of the
town, both legally and to make working conditions tolerable.
Four of the selectmen ignored Mr. Rogofsky, not even asking the most basic
questions, while Mr. Yingling held a hostile, condescending inquisition.  Mr.
Yingling also treated Ms. Nagle like an enemy, while he was disrespectful of Mr.
Coen.

I hope that all applicants are considered for their skill, their knowledge, and
their ability to bring the process forward.
This is too important for politics or personal issues to rule the selection.
8:41 am edt 

Re: Erik Yingling

Erik Yingling seems to be One of the few of five who does Read the
material

I find him competent, hard working and able to ask pointed questions. So glad
the voters voted him in. He is dynamic, intelligent and good. He is not fearful
of asking tough questions like some of the other five.
8:38 am edt 

Re: DPW Fleet

Re: "...the result of not voting yes to buying the crucial machinery that is need by
the town to maintain its property..."


That's simply not true. The town has plenty of money for routine machinery and
fleet purchases. Most other towns keep fleets operable and in good working order
without overrides. We must learn to do the same.

8:37 am edt 

Selectmens Meeting

Watching the selectmens meeting couldn't help but to notice the wonderful
evlauation given by one member of the board on Ms. Lynn.  Was that an
announcement from the board as a whole or was that the opinion of the one board
member. When can we expect the poll by the entire board?
8:34 am edt 

Health Department

Has the Board of Healh only had two meetings since February?  Went to the towns
website to look up a specific item that was discussed at a Board of Health
meeting but could only find the postings for one meeting in January and one
meeting in February.
8:32 am edt 

Friday, May 18, 2012

Mary-Jo Avellar

I stand corrected. It seems strange, however, that a Town Meeting item
can be postponed to a time certain during the meeting, but not at a selectmen's
meeting.

Mary-Jo Avellar
10:15 am edt 

Erik Yingling
 
RE: "Yingling - He will go into a selectmens meeting with open mind and
not already know how he will vote in advance of a meeting.  He is his own person
who can speak freely and openly with no secret or hidden agendas."



He will go in to a meeting with an open mind because he mostly likely will not
have even read the material in advance.  Then he will agree with grandma that we
need to limit herbicides.  Then he will agree with Marcene that we need to
protect Vernon's job even though he voted to eliminate it as part of the FinCom. 
Then he will agree with Rick that we need to renogiate the fees to the National
Seashore.  Sorry, that's not a leader.


10:12 am edt 

Building Committee Applicant

The selectmen obviously want candidates who are willing to do their due
diligence in recommending the best site and the best building to serve as the
police headquarters for the town of Provincetown.

I've learned a lot going to selectman's meetings. In the past, Michele Coutour
would respond to my critical statements by saying to me, "Did you read the
report, Mr. Rogovsky". Or the report is right here for you to read, Mr.
Rogovsky. Her remarks taught me to get all of the facts.

The unintended consequences of going to selectman's meetings to read public
statements is that I learned a lot while waiting.

People have seen the interviews of us candidates and said to me,"Erik must hate
you". No, in fact what Erik did was give me a chance to state my case even more
emphatically.

He didn't know that starting in February I contacted 5 police chiefs, two town
managers, a juvenile judge and a social worker and that I've written letters to
the news papers and contacted two columnists at the Boston Globe regarding the
Provincetown police station and the conditions of our DPW and Building and
Grounds building where the employees have have no sink or bathroom and the men
and women there have to use a port-a-potty year round going on 12 years now.

He didn't know that I've called the Governor's office and talked to a person in
his administration asking how to get money to fund our proposed new Police
station.

I didn't have to be on a "committee" to be an active citizen but when I
discovered that they were taking applications for this committee I thought that
I'd bring my zeal and the expertise of Chief William Mason of Harwich to the
table.

We shall see what happens when the committee is formed. In the meantime, the
town is confronted with the fact that we have broken, decayed machinery at the
DPW that the town refused to replace and now these 5 or 6 men are faced with
work that must be done without the machinery to do the work.

This is the result of not voting yes to buying the crucial machinery that is
need by the town to maintain its property.
Now the town has contract out and hire outsiders to do this work.
Michael Rogovsky


10:07 am edt 

Mary-Jo Avellar

"Ms. Avellar was correct that a meeting/hearing could be continued
until a date certain, without being re-posted. However, under the new open
meeting law, all meetings must be posted for a minimum of 48 business
hours,........"




Well then no, she was not correct under the new open meeting laws.  Seems the
moderator should know the law or does expect to be propped up by town counsel
during the town meeting?
10:04 am edt 

Board of Health

Just sat through a BOH meeting. It seems that those who apply to
comply to their new regulation were being treated negatively and these groups
are trying to work within the system. The board has no answer to about "what
about everyone not trying to comply?"and "why are you just looking at those
businesses?"Coming home, just saw a board member sitting in a place that is in
complete violation. That is just wrong.

At least in 2001 Kay Halle had the guts to walk up and down the street and make
business comply? When are these board members not doing the same?
10:01 am edt 

Erik Yingling

He is not part of the good ol' boy network that existed.  He will go into a
selectmens meeting with open mind and not already know how he will vote in
advance of a meeting.
He is his own person who can speak freely and openly with no secret or hidden
agendas.
9:57 am edt 

Thursday, May 17, 2012

Knight + Building Committee

What is obvious is that the building committee will define the political debate
for the coming year. And that the BOS chairman is very worried about that He's
right, the potential it will become a circus is better than 50%.
11:06 am edt 

Knight + Yingling

Re: "Here is what I predict. Austin Knight will continaully ask town
consel for advice on how he should eat peas. Should I eat peas with a fork?
Should I line the peas on the edge of a knife?"



And I predict that if Austim needed advice on how to eat something he can look
over at one of his fellow selectmen who will most likely be sitting there eating
during the meeting.
10:02 am edt 

Erik?

Re: "He comes from a long line of professional, intelligent
individuals who you could probably not even hold a candle stick to."


Maybe he comes from an accomplished family, but not sure I would consider 
         a professional yet.  While I admire his energy and moxy, how is it
relevant what his relatives have accomplished.   Also, just curious as to
why/how you deem him part of the "good ole boy" network?

I'm holding out some optimism for          , but first he's got to prove himself
and earn his stripes, then I'll gladly label him accomplished, but not simply
because he opens his mouth, in some cases inappropriately.
9:50 am edt 

Re: Building Committee Selection

I just saw the interviews on PTV. Yingling was a      when
interviewing Coen, Rogovsky and Nagle.
9:47 am edt 

Re: Building Committee Selection

I liked what the Building Committee applicants had to say when
interviewed (pag 5 Provincetown Banner).

It's reprehensible that they were not all treated with respect when interviewed
by the Selectmen when all they want to do is offer their time and talent for the
overall good of our community.
9:45 am edt 

Re: Building Committee Selection

WAITING UNTIL JUNE 11TH TO CHOSE THE CANDIDATES

It seems as though the selectmen are going to wait until June 11th to chose the
building committee.

Perhaps all of the candidates should get started doing some foot work now
instead of waiting to see who won't be on the committee.

All that will happen is that they will be better informed citizens. There is no
down side.


9:43 am edt 

Team Player

I haven't seen monday (May 14) night's meeting online yet but the BANNER reports
that one of the applicants for the building committee was asked "if he were a
team player".


I don't recall a selectman ever asking that question of a volunteer before. Is
this the new approach in Provincetown?

That you must be "part of THE TEAM" to serve on a committee or board ?

If so, who's team? and if the point is, 'gee, lets make sure we all agree', than
why have a committee at all?

of course, thats what caused this trouble with the police plan this winter. Lack
of debate. Lack of dissent.


When our board of selectmen starts debating again, instead of voting 5-0 every
monday night, then our town will have a conversation worth listening to and
participating in.

I look forward to that day.


9:41 am edt 

Erik Yingling

I would hope someone would pull Erik aside and tell him how
unprofessional it looks for him to be eating during a BOS meeting.
9:39 am edt 

First Meeting

Bad first impression. He's eating his dinner at the meeting on camera? Are you
serious? There's a certain decorum during a selectmens meeting and eating isn't
allowed. And not knowing what the building committee does while at the same time
requesting the police station plans to be revamped is insane. I wonder how many
other boards he knows nothing about?
9:38 am edt 

BOS Selectmen

Elaine Anderson and Her "Son" McChesney

What a pathetic two some. How did it come down to this? This man is a        in
thinking and just sits there. He is the best we can do? I just don't think so.
He is sad and weak and unworthly of being our representative.
9:36 am edt 

David McChesney - BOS Selectman

Excuse Me, but Who in Hell is McChesnew?

Who is this man? He is rather a negative presence. Without the backing of
Mcquire and her posse, he never would have been elected. he is a          of a
person, someone who sits and stares and says nothing. He is rather a nothing on
this board.

Wish he'd just decide to leave since he's inept.
9:31 am edt 

Austin Knight - BOS Chair

What? The chair of BOS asking about procedures and protocol?

what? are you kidding all of us? what the heck are you thinking?

If there is one thing this chair can't do is deal with and know procedures and
protocol. Here is what I predict. Austin Knight will continaully ask town consel
for advice on how he should eat peas. Should I eat peas with a fork? Should I
line the peas on the edge of a knife? then town counsel will intervene and
respond. Of course, it will cost us $4,000 for an answer but that is how I see
Mr. chair Austin Knight handling each and every issue.

He has no balls. He has no energy to find the truth. But he will use town
resources to pay for an answer to a question he and all the others should be
able to answer.
9:24 am edt 

Erik Yingling

Amazing how people can be so negative right out of the starting gate.  Does
anyone really know anything about him. Was his grandfather not a successful
lawyer and does he not have a successful Aunt (Kathryn) former successful
lawyer.  Also his grandmother who was a chemist, I would say exceptionally
intelligent as well.  He comes from a long line of professional, intelligent
individuals who you could probably not even hold a candle stick to.  For those
of you who want to complain, shame on you.  Are you that upset that the
good-ol-boy network now has a link that cannot be controlled by a select few. 
Fasten your seatbelts - you are going to be in for one hell of a ride because
the best is yet to come.

You go Erik!  Keep questioning and questioning and questioning like you did at
the Monday night Selectmen meeting when I witnessed you asking questions of one
woman who was getting upset because of your questions to her.
9:17 am edt 

Postponement of BOS Meeting

Ms. Avellar was correct that a meeting/hearing could be continued until a date
certain, without being re-posted. However, under the new open meeting law, all
meetings must be posted for a minimum of 48 business hours, except in an
emergency. It was an honest mistake that was honestly corrected.
9:16 am edt 

Watched BOS Meeting

Somebody needs to tell Yingling to eat his
dinner prior to the meeting.  Looks so unprofessional, if he wants to be taken
seriously he needs to not act like the meeting is a joke to him.

9:15 am edt 

Blog Goes too Far

When the selectmen ask for citizens to form a committee and the citizens who
respond then find themselves slammed on this blog--what is one to think?

Why should I volunteer for a committee and have people read total, base  lies
and innuendo regarding my motives fabricated out of thin air?

When my motives would simply be to give back to the community I realize that
such actions can be reinterpreted and then posted on here saying outlandish
things totally out of my control.

This is tabloid at its worst.
9:13 am edt 

Re: Postponement of BOS Meeting

Sorry Mary Jo, but it is not legal.
9:08 am edt 

Re: Building Committee

The pupose of this new building committee is to present a plan for a
new police station. I said at the public meetings a few months ago, not now. If
this is presented again in the fall my answer will be the same. We need to wait
a few years before spending millions of dollars on another project.
9:07 am edt 

Citizen Committee
 
These good citizens are offering their time to be on this building committee.
Didn't the selectmen see from their full agenda that they would need another day
to discuss the applicants?

How long will these citizens have to wait until they know if they chosen?

This was supposed to be the interview of the candidates--not grilling of the
candidates.

I wonder if people are lining up to be on committees after hearing about this
warm and affection welcome to civic participation?
9:05 am edt 

Re: Postponement of BOS Meeting

"Legal meetings, such as Monday night's Selectmen's meeting, may be
continued to a time certain. Continuing to Tuesday night was perfectly legal. 
Mary-Jo Avellar"



moderator may want to check your legal knowledge.  use to be legal, isn't
anymore.
8:58 am edt 

Sal's Place


Fire spoils dinner at new P'town eatery

May 17, 2012
A fire during the soft opening of Sal's Restaurant in Provincetown interrupted dinner Wednesday night.
Around 8 p.m., emergency crews responded to the scene to find no flames showing, but smoke inside the kitchen.
Police and fire officials think the fire started with an exhaust fan.
The restaurant was evacuated, with about 30 to 40 people ushered outside.
Sgt. Thomas Steele of Provincetown police said there were no injuries and that the scene was cleared just shy of 10 p.m.
Truro Fire Department provided mutual aid.

8:39 am edt 

Apply For a Committee and be Slammed

People say to get on a committee. People applied to be on the building committee
and it seems that were grilled. Were they interviewed or grilled?

Where they thanked for the work that they did in preparing for the job?

What a charming way to approach citizen volunteers; I can't wait to join a
committee now.


8:35 am edt 

Wednesday, May 16, 2012

Postponement of BOS Meeting

Legal meetings, such as Monday night's Selectmen's meeting, may be
continued to a time certain. Continuing to Tuesday night was perfectly legal.

Mary-Jo Avellar
11:05 am edt 

Re: Erik Yingling

"The selectmen's meeting was continued. It is legal for them to have
met on Tuesday. Just a delay tactic?"



I think it was done to keep Yingling away.  He had to work on Tuesday making
pizzas.
9:58 am edt 

Re: Erik Yingling

I ask questions all the time even when I know
the answer. Why? I want verification and also want
an issue explained for clarification to the public.
Erik did nothing wrong when he asked what the role
of the Building Committee is.
My concern is how the Chair is dealing with procedures
and protocol.
9:56 am edt 

Building Committee

Who was appointed to the railroad committee?
8:54 am edt 

Austin Knight - BOS Chairman

Mr. Chairman Austin,

knowing that a certain
applicant for the Building Committee
had a obvious conflict of interest  in
regards of his employment, why did
you not have the common sense
to bring him in front of the Board first?
Instead you made him wait.

How could you even suggest to
continue the meeting for the next day
without posting at least 48 hrs prior?
Someone in Town Hall caught it and
saved your face.

Just a reminder, when the selection
Meeting is held, remember that the
procedure is to be followed by
"Robert's Rules". The buzz is that
you want each member to choose one.
Wrong

8:52 am edt 

Form the Committee!

You have more people applying to be on this committee than most other building
committees. Why didn't you chose them yesterday. Legally, you can continue a
meeting with no need to post it.hth

This group of citizens is straining at the bit to get started because they want
all of their ducks in a row to present to the public 6 weeks before the fall
town meeting.

It can be done! They are poised. They have even stated how they wish to start.
Several people said that they want to tour other police stations. Lets go
already.
8:48 am edt 

Blog Smears

Of course, you don't know anything about a citizen, so you call him a pawn of
the police who wants to spend anyting etc.

Why would anyone want to apply for any committee in this town. The blog will
allow inuendo and smear tactics to reign supreme.

The selectmen's meeting was continued. It is legal for them to have met on
Tuesday. Just a delay tactic?

It seems that people applying to be on the committee made more of a committment
of time to this project than some selectmen.
8:47 am edt 

Erik Yingling

ERIC:TALKATIVE NOT INSIGHTFUL

Eric, being talkative doesn't show that you have thoughtfully garnered any
knowledge of a subject or have any to dispense.

You would have done yourself a better service if you remained quiet and listened
and learned.

Callow and talkative with no depth.
8:45 am edt 

Erik Yingling

His (Erik's) Big Question to the former chair of the Finance Committee
was to ask him if he could bear not being the chair of the building committee if chosen.

These kind of questions are 'the voice of the people?'

Listening, listening, listening. No, it was solely the voice of the new
Selectman fumbling to find a question to ask because it was his turn.
8:44 am edt 

Erik Yingling

Can't wait for folks to see Erik asking at his first BOS meeting to
the Town Manager, 'now what does the Building Committee do again? Work with
architects?' The Town Manager appeared stunned with his ignorant question as his
colleagues were shaking their heads in disbelief.

It's apparent he will be marginalized early on as he is not up for the job.
Afterall, his accomplishments to date in public service and professionally have
been utterly unremarkable. Why will his stint as Selectman be any different?




8:42 am edt 

Who is This Guy?

I'd still like to know who this Rogovsky guy is and what his agenda is. He seems
a pawn for the police, a guy who will spend whatever they want, wherever they
want it, and however it is to be constructed.
12:08 am edt 

Erik Was Terrific

He did a great job. He was a key voice for many of us. He asked good questions
and understood the depths of the issues. He seemed like the more experienced
selectmen at yesterday's meeting.

He has started well. I'm so glad to know that he is one of our selectmen. Erki
Yingling gives me hope that good things can happen here in town. He symbolizes
the town taking the town back.
12:06 am edt 

Erik Yingling

"Erik failed to hit the ground running ...as the new Townie Selectman... three
menial jobs to make ends meet, he won't even have time to read his [GREEN]
packets..."


Huh? No namesky? This must be a tardy April-sky Fool-sky Joke-sky. otherwise it
once again demonstrates the contempt of the Knight/Anderson/McChesney and their
spokesman for working people.

Unbelievable. You can't make this stuff up?
12:04 am edt 

Re: My Thoughts

That was a nice poetic heartfelt post. Fact is we all have more in common than
not.
12:03 am edt 

Erik Yingling

Erik overdominated his first meeting.  It's one thing to be confident and walk
in and assert you will deliver on your promises, but it's another thing to speak
without understanding the issues, and worse....to overspeak simply to
demonstrate you won.   Yingling needs to sit back and be more strategic to be
successful, and not be the puppet for his domineering grandmother.
12:01 am edt 

Re: Erik Yingling

"With all the meetings he now has to go to and his three menial jobs
to make ends meet, he won't even have time to read his packets before
Selectmen's meetings"



Menial jobs? Shame on you. This man works hard. This is the attitude that landed
us with retired and/or rich people in power.  Clueless and ignorant regarding
what it takes to make a living here.  Shame shame shame.
12:00 am edt 

Tuesday, May 15, 2012

Re: Provincetown Public Library

"kudos to those posters last year who predicted the towncould not
take care of the new library lawn.  Your predictions have come true.
I can't believe how bad the front library lawn looks."



Isn't that typical of many of you.  You would rather something bad happen in the
town so you can be right.

'kudos to those posters'. Seriously?  What a miserable life you must lead.
11:58 pm edt 

Erik Yingling

"With all the meetings he now has to go to and his three menial jobs to
make ends meet..."


That's exactly the kind of attitude that got you and your "cronies" thrown out
in the recent election. You and your "cronies" think that a 14.7 million Police
Palace is just small change.

Please be aware that the majority of the citizens in Provincetown have jobs that
you call "menial".



11:56 pm edt 

Selectman Erik Yingling

His Big Question to the former chair of the Finance Committee was to ask him if
he could bear not being the chair of the building committee if chosen. What kind
of question is that? His questions weren't probing. He just likes to hear
himself talk.

He wants the National seashore that is building a $4.5 million dollar beach
project to replace the bath house etc. to hire local guys.

(I've seen the ads for construction worker that say,"Must have your own
vehicle". Which translates to mean that you haven't lost your license due to
drunk driving or refer madness.)

Sure, The National Seashore is going to bring in a big construction company--not
some guys in town who know what a hammer is and do some carpentry because they
gave up fishing.

Skill is needed and knowledge of the craft--not just hammering nails.

The crew who worked on the monument came in from California and worked all
winter and have one more week.
11:54 pm edt 

Austin Knight

"what was that all about Austin? You can't please all the people all the time.
that makes you a wimp."



No! It doesn't make you a wimp. It makes you an ex-selectman.
11:52 pm edt 

High School For Police Station...

"Yes, what a great space for new police station that would be!  That is where the
new police station should be located!"



Are you kidding?  I suggested this many moons ago and was promptly put in my
place.  Question though.  If the school is tied up in the "grant" process, what
if there are no students at the school and it is not being used for educational
purposes but sitting empty?  Doesn't that make it not a school anymore by nature
and nullify the "grant process"?  For many, many reasons the High School is the
best place for the new police station and stubbornness seems the only real
reason it couldn't work (even one-way streets can be changed).
11:50 pm edt 

Erik Yingling

"Erik failed to hit the ground running last night showing ....as the new Townie
Selectman... his three menial jobs to make ends meet....."



Is this from no namesky or bowwow voter? Pray tell

11:48 pm edt 

Michael Rogovsky

By the time the building applicants were heard last night, the room
had cleared out except for the Selectmen, Town staff and building committee
applicants.

So, the degrading post on Mr. Rogovsky, an applicant for the building committee
was made by someone in that small pool of people. I'll give you one guess.

The politcial season is over, in fact it is illegal to have election signs up
ten days after an election which we still see around Town like the one on
Conwell Street.

Grow up and stop your pettiness. The political season is over. Now do the job
people elected you to do and drop your petty posts against those like Michael
who publicly expressed misgivings about you during the election season.

At least Michael had the backbone to express his concerns in a public forum vs.
the anonymous posts of sore winners.
11:46 pm edt 

My Thoughts

Just a poor sap that graduated from PHS in the 70s but honestly don't
remember anyone by the name of Yingling during that time in the cafeteria or
library or gym.  What exactly is the criteria for being a TOWNIE since some
advertise STRONGLY as being just that?  Back then the only connotation with that
name was with Spiritus and Cafe Edwidge or Angie's.  Guess my little circle of
us townies was more limited than we imagined.

What does define being a townie?  A death in the family due to fishing or a slow
death by booze or drugs due to the results of fishing?  It's not all about guest
houses, boutiques and restaurants.  Some of us and our poor dumb townie parents
lived by the sea.

Oh yah, that's forgotten and stomped over and this will probably never be
posted, so why bother.  More important topics like gay marriage, bike racks at
the ridiculous library, etc. take priority.
Sorry for the inconvenience.  Again, don't bother posting if not on the agenda.

If this townie called Yingling has one iota of imagination or spirit or brain,
than welcome.  Not a fun place to play politics.  Godspeed if you have the
gumption and time will tell.  We do need a new breath and it is welcome.  Cross
your t's and dot your i's cause that will be scrutinized more than content.  And
we know that per this blog.
9:35 pm edt 

Erik Yingling

Erik failed to hit the ground running last night showing continued lack of
substance behind his campaign promises in his first statement as the new
Townie Selectman.

With all the meetings he now has to go to and his three menial jobs to make ends
meet, he won't even have time to read his packets before Selectmen's meetings
let alone do the research necessary to secure more local jobs and affordable
housing.


3:16 pm edt 

New Chair of the BOs and Old Vice Chair?

What was that about? How did Grandma become vice chair? I see others who would
have been a better selection. Again, what was that all about Austin? You can't
please all the people all the time. that makes you a wimp.


3:13 pm edt 

Who is this Michael Rogovsky?

How odd and strange. What was he presenting in forest green folders to the
selectmen? Is he being paid as a consultant by the police? What drives this guy?
Hope he is not part of the mix that is the bulding committee.
2:32 pm edt 

Erik Yingling Asked Great Questions

very probative and on target. I am impressed. He surely is not going to be like
some of the others without a tongue and without-- should I say-- a brain. He
offered insightful questions and he was the only one who listened to questions
posed by the public and tried to answer them. All the other selectmen used their
time for their own issues. They were dismissive of the public's concerns.

So congratulations Erik and you are a wonderful addition to the BOS. Glad you
ran and so glad you were elected.
2:29 pm edt 

Erik Yingling

"Where is the new Selectman Yling's manners?"


I think our Wall Street veterans should develop a "miss manners for townies
guide". In fact why not an i-phone app?


2:27 pm edt 

Time for New Thinking

No the schools are tied-up with the grant process so they can not be
used for other things. However they could be used as a charter school or a
performing arts school. There is no need to believe that as taxpayers we need to
pay for things that are not needed any longer. There are 2 fire stations, one on
Johnson Street and one on Anthony Street, we could sell as surplus.  There
should be a freeze on new hires and pay increases for town employees as long as
there are overrides.  And the town manager and police chiefs contracts should
not be renewed. A job is not for life in government, and new people deserve a
chance to bring in fresh ideas.
2:25 pm edt 

Erik Yingling - Good Start

For those who thought Erik wasn't up to the job, last night he proved his
mettle. He put town interests ahead of his own.  Eric voted for Austin Knight
for Chairman! Yes the same selectman who worked tirelessly to keep "one of them"
from getting into office and even stood in the rain holding Bedard signs on
Election Day!!

Knight is fully accountable for the BOS agenda now, he can no longer go around
and blame Elaine for this or for that. (Watch your back Sharon Lynn!)

Now it's time to see what the Chairman does and how he votes.
2:22 pm edt 

Re: Marriage Fraud

Re: "..solidifies my determination to inform the autorities that this
is going on in Provincetown."


When you watch Casablanca do you root for the Germans?
11:55 am edt 

Goodbye, Provincetown!

It's been twenty years and I can't take it anymore. I'm done with lying town
managers, elitist town boards, thieving contractors, plumbers, electricians, bad
health care, know-it-all entitled summer people, heartless landlords, inflated
real estate and rents, and mean mean mean vicious people.

Good riddance. You all deserve each other.
11:52 am edt 

Building Committee
 
We don't even have a building committee and already there is flack. Let them get
started and let them do their job. We are all watching them and if they get
harassed on here it only confirms to me my good decision not to get involved
with any committee and see my name dragged through the mud on here because of a
decision that the committee made.

Lets just see what happens with them on here. We are all watching.
11:49 am edt 

Chatham Town Meeting

CHATHAM DEFEATS PROPOSED NEW FIRE STATION AS TOO BIG AND TOO EXPENSIVE
AT $9.5 MILLION:

CHATHAM  Things appeared to be going smoothly at first. Town meeting Monday
night overwhelmingly endorsed the town operating budget, the regional school
budget and the five-year capital budget. Voters appeared to be in a spending
mood as if, at least in this town, the recession were finally in the rear-view
mirror.

And then a stumble as voters chose to lease instead of buy an $850,000 fire
truck. After that came the $9.5 million to build a new fire station, which was
resoundingly rejected as being too big and too expensive.
11:48 am edt 

Erik Yingling

Where is the new Selectman Yling's manners? What does he think, that
the Judge Welsh room is a spaghetti hall? One can only imagine what was going
through people's minds when he was the only one in a packed room chomping away
while presentations were being given. He was embarrassment to the Town.


11:46 am edt 

Several Observations

The high school can never be sold for anything but a school for
elementary ed ,kindergarten, to middle/grammar school & high school only so stop
trying to suggest anything else for that  building.  Maybe a police station,if
they have a school for trainees there would be allowed.. with jail cells in the
gym (easy access for cruisers). On a 2nd subject,affordable housing here,which
nobody can afford is not the same as low income housing,which is probably why
people were subleasing a room or floor space so they can afford to stay in the
unaffordable place!  3rd subject: The building committee applicants had a
submission date deadline and met the date. The powers that be didn't get the
applicants they wanted and opened up applications again until they get the "yes"
people they want.  The law against that is called collusion!
11:43 am edt 

High School for Police Station...

Yes, what a great space for new police station that would be!  That is where the
new police station should be located!
11:41 am edt 

Re: Building Committee

"The building committee shall interview prospective architects and general
contractors, review blueprints and contracts, and oversee the payment of
vouchers, for any construction work to be done by the town"


In other words, keep your stinking fat fingers outta our wallets! BC can neither
raise taxes nor recommend the raising of taxes.
11:22 am edt 

Re: Marriage fraud

No More on this ridiculous marriage fraud

Please no more postings on this. It is one idiot and I don't use this word
easily who is dominating this blog. enough of this craziness. let the webmaster
stop this stupidity now.


11:20 am edt 

Re: Marriage Fraud


Stop worrying about what other people are doing in this town to make their way
in the world.

Focus on your life and let other people alone. They have a right to make money
any way they want. Who are you--the marriage police?

You think everyone is snow white? Wasn't president Kennedy's father a rum
runner? Arent there moguls in this town who got their start selling pot? Wake up
and face the facts.

Live and let live.

11:18 am edt 

Re: $10,000 Marriage Fraud

Please, real issues

This is crazy. Fraud, phobias, paranoia. Write to yourself and leave us out of
this.
11:14 am edt 

Building Committee

What I saw was a group of dedicated citizens who are anxious and willing to
build us a bare-bones, yet proper police station.

We don't need another inappropriate building..and this group gets that. May they
choose the people who will do an unbiased, dedicated job.

They are all good candidates
11:07 am edt 

Monday, May 14, 2012

Building Committee

Here is something to consider! For the past few years the building
committee was integrated with the historical commission. (NOT: historic district
w/ john dowd on it. The other one). Then after the town manager, police chief &
dpw didn't convince the town voters to accept the plan for the proposed
dpw/police building, the town manager dissolved the historical commissions role
as the towns building committee. That seems like something fishy is going on
behind closed doors! My guess is that town government wanted to pick & choose
who will be on the new committee.
4:36 pm edt 

Marriage Fraud

"I've only started to read this blog. What an eyefull!

The Immigration people have been investigating marriage fraud for years around
the country; this isn't their first time!"


Thanks to this blog I know whom to call and sound the alarm to ICE.

We shall see what we shall see, won't we?

Your comments denigrating me for doing this shows the caliber of at least one of
the people on here--and only solidifies my determination to inform the
autorities that this is going on in Provincetown.
1:03 pm edt 

Re: $10,000 Marriage Fraud

Here's a thought: get a life and mind your own business. Marriage
police...really? Pretty sad.
11:36 am edt 

Town Charter: The Facts of The Building Committee

Section 5: The Building Committee
6-5-1 There shall be a building committee, consisting of five regular members
and one alternate member appointed by the board of selectmen for three-year
overlapping terms so arranged that the term of at least one regular member shall
expire each year.

6-5-2 The building committee shall interview prospective architects and general
contractors, review blueprints and contracts, and oversee the payment of
vouchers, for any
construction work to be done by the town.  The building committee shall make
recommendations to the board of selectmen, but shall have no independent
authority.
11:34 am edt 

Re: $10,000 Marriage Fraud

I don't care at all about "fraud' marriages.  Ya it happens.  Ya it
sucks!!  There is no way to really clamp down on this without making the process
for legitimately married people seeking an immigration benefit more of a
nightmare than it already is.

I can't wait until the federal government begins to recognize same sex marriages
so I can get in on the racket and start making some easy money.  ;-)


11:32 am edt 

Building Committee - Transparency and Openness

The mission statement of the Building Committee will be determined by
the committee members. Looking at the bigger picture beyond the funding of a
compliant police station will keep provincetown taxpayers informed and help them
in their support (or lack of) of future capital expenditure overrides such as
the cost of paving our streets and funding the pension requirements.

One of the first things I'd recommend a joint meeting with FinCom and the BC.

Laying all the cards on the table will be a breath of fresh air for Provincetown
taxpayers who foot the bill!

They are too often kept in the dark about overrides around the corner. Did Town
officials tell us that before we voted for $7,000,000 to rehab Town Hall,that
other overrides were right around the corner for the police station?
10:47 am edt 

Re: Transparency and Openness

"As an applicant on the building committee, I agree we need to take
several steps back .... and they need to know what the Town's multi-year capital
expenditures needs are and how that will reflect on their taxes."


It is not the job of the building committee )or the finance committee) to
determine the multi-year capital expenses. It is the job of the Selectmen who
may or may not be capable of the task. Nor is it the job of the BC to determine
tax implications.

I would suggest you withdraw your application to Building and pull papers to run
for Selectman.
10:29 am edt 

Property Tax Overrides

Interesting idea about mandating tax-subsidzed provincetown voters
having restricted voting privleges on overrides.

Perhaps should have restrictions? Interesting idea that should be explored.
10:23 am edt 

Crack Alley

This is what the young folks are calling this alley in Provincetown. It is next
to            . Might as well put this on the town radar too.
8:58 am edt 

Property Tax Overrides

Overrides should not be decided on by non-property
owners. Someone who moves to Provincetown last year, registers to vote, and
wants more affordable housing options(or whatever) should not be allowed to
increase my property tax. No more overrides. I pay enough in property tax. Let's
decrease the size of our pension and health care obligations to town employees
to pay for the extras.
8:55 am edt 

DPW Assistant director

We totally agree, how can someone with no knowledge of DPW  and no civil
engineering experience run a multi million dollar project??                       
                                                                                                       
                                                                                                       
8:53 am edt 

Transparency and Openness

As an applicant on the building committee, I agree we need to take
several steps back in the process and start by rebuilding the public's trust on
the process and truly involve them to begin building consenus because it has
been violated. Their input is critical and they need to know what the Town's
multi-year capital expenditures needs are and how that will reflect on their
taxes.

8:50 am edt 

Shining the Light

This blog has done it again. The unintended consequences of the public having a
public outlet.

We have             and the            .

We have the marriage fraud.

We have the harbor shenanigans.

We have the true number of high school students.

We have things exposed that are under the radar.

And this is only May.

8:48 am edt 

Hours Cut

The cheap help couldn't come back--so they hired me. And then the next  year the
job was taken away from me because this worker was finally able to return.

I thought that jobs went to Americans first. Not in this town it seems. I have
to see what I can do about this situation; especially since marriage for
citizenship is a money maker.

Marry-divorce, marry divorce an easy way for some women to make $10,000 every
couple of years it seems.
8:45 am edt 

Re: $10,000 Marriage Fraud

STOP THE MARRIAGES IN PROVINCETOWN FOR CITIZENSHIP

Contact Immigration and Customs Enforcement

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is headquartered in Washington,
D.C. Please see below for contact information for local ICE offices around the
nation.
Report Suspicious Activity

To report suspicious activity, visit www.ice.gov/tips or call (866) 347-2423
(U.S., Mexico and Canada) or (802) 872-6199 (other countries across the globe).
Media Inquiries


8:44 am edt 

Sunday, May 13, 2012

Re: $10,000 Marriage Fraud

Re: "This has become a culture of rats and snitches. Shame on you. Mind
your own business."



Are you kidding? What is this, prison where the rats and snitches get beat up
for telling the authorities about law breakers? Shame on YOU for thinking people
should get away with committing fraud and breaking the law. I wouldn't be at all
upset if someone "snitched" on every person pulling an unemployment scam, every
foreign worker who marries a            for a green card, every affordable
housing recipient who sub-lets, everyone working under the table, etc., etc.
This town is my home. When I see people breaking the law it IS my business to
report it.

You may think we are a culture of rats and snitches, but from where I stand it
looks more like a town full of cheaters, scammers and liars.
11:24 pm edt 

Why Did the DPW Move Out of the Grace Goveia Building?

Why didn't the elementary school stay open and leave the high school to close
when all the students had graduated? that would have been next year and then the
high school would be available for creative building use. If there is strategic
thinking in these moves, seem it is poor and wrong headed. We sell the wrong
buildings like we did with what is now coastal studies. At $800,000, we could
have used that space for the new police station and save ourselves $12 million!
11:20 pm edt 

Re: Building Committee

Hope the building committee Puts Everything On Hold Including the site:

Let's hope this committee considers and weighs in on all aspects of the
police/dpw boondoggle. Let's hope they take all the pieces and weigh them all.
they need to start from scratch since all the past actions are quite suspect.
Was there ever a real committee before? Or some who were picked and chosen at
different times for different reasons?

Time to begin the beginning. Time to start over and make solid, rational
decisions that will affect us all.
11:18 pm edt 

Re: Chasing the Sun

Great Post I too had the same thoughts when reading that letter in the Banner.
Please give me a break!!! I live close by and can't stand the pompous bunch that
love to bitch and moan but I dont' see any "contribution" to the community in
any way!! Tough life to go for a jog, go to dinner parties and garden all day.
11:16 pm edt 

Re: Keith Bergman Said to Close the School

"And they are all female--the guys were more adventerous and demanded more from
their high school education. They wanted to broaden their horizons."



This is one of the most ignorant statements I have ever seen on this blog. 
Shame on you, you know not of what you type.  Not a clue.



11:14 pm edt 

High Class Troubles

Honey, I hate to burst your bubble, but this is May. You ain't seen nothing yet.
Wait til July. That's when "high maintenance" moves in.

6:35 pm edt 

High Class Troubles

OH, How I wish that the worst thing going on in my life is the grass situation
at the library.

Oh How I wish that the only thing to turn my world upside down is to have the
bus boy at the swankiest, most luxurious restaurant in town be tardy in
freshening my water glass.

Oh How I wish that the most aggrivating thing in my life is to drive through
town in a luxurious sedan and complain about the bumps (which only happens when
one speeds.)

Instead my hours were cut where I work and I'm too old for a sexy town job where
I could make the big bucks and I'm in debt and I need to lose weight due to my
blood pressure and here I read postings by mean spirited people who don't know
the true facts about issues and who post "gripes" between sips of their mimosa
and nibbles of their cruidetes.

5:49 pm edt 

Re: $10,000 Marriage Fraud

Re: "People are paying up to $10,000 for a woman to marry them in this
town. So much is going on that I'm contacting immigration."


This has become a culture of rats and snitches. Shame on you. Mind your own
business.

5:46 pm edt 

Building Committee

"The Building Committee has been misnamed. It should be the Railroad Committee."



Probably, all the BC/RC members will be part of the west end PR machine. Most
will live on low numbered Commercial Street addresses.

No one who spoke out against the Police Station will be appointed. It's all
wired. Too bad, we need a police station solution, but stubbornness will kill
this project for years.

5:44 pm edt 

Keith Bergman Said to Close the School

Years ago Keith Bergman, the former town manager, announced that we need to
close the schools. Now we have about a dozen high school students rattling
around in the high school.

And they are all female--the guys were more adventerous and demanded more from
their high school education. They wanted to broaden their horizons.

If it wasn't for the elementary school moving in, the high school would continue
being a mausoleum.  And in the Cape Cod Times one parent praised them for
"sticking it out".

How sad, sacrificing your child's high shcool years to one suffucating
experience. They will come running home scared once they get a glimpse of the
real rigorous world of higher education.

Lets pray that they are prepared.
5:42 pm edt 

Sage Restaurant and Guesthouse

I love Sage Restaurant and Guesthouse!
5:40 pm edt 

$10,000 "Marriage Fraud"

People are paying up to $10,000 for a woman to marry them in this town. So much
is going on that I'm contacting immigration.

My sister-in-law from South America says that she married an American and then
applied for citizenship and she thinks that this fraud cheapens her due
dilligence in getting her citizenship.

Just letting the community aware of this fraud that is going on under our noses.

9:42 am edt 

Saturday, May 12, 2012

Thoughts to Ponder

(1) Volunteers were leaving the Library because of the Librarian. What did the
town do "keep the Librarian"

(2) Allot of kids left the P'town Schools because of the way the Supt &
Principal are running things. What did the town do "kept the Supt & Principal"

(3) The Police Chief convinces the Town Manager to have the police custodian
clean two large buildings and cut his salary $4,000. What did the town do "keep
the police chief and force the custodian into retirement"

A baseball team does bad, what do they do "get rid of the manager". I'm just
saying.
9:37 pm edt 

Chasing the Sun

Very telling letter in the Banner this week. A former Menino appointee (not that
one! yet another one!) complains (is it a requirement? )about Provincetown. It
says he is sad when he jets in from Florida :( about how town might
become.....It's good to know what our second homeowners really think, but from
what I know he does nothing to contribute time or talent, pontificates endlessly
in spam worthy e-mails, and now complains about the civic work that happens
while he winters away.
9:35 pm edt 

Close the School
 
We taxpayers pay millions of dollars for a school! Every year millions upon
millions upon millions.

Close the school and put the money towards paving the road.
9:09 pm edt 

New Police Station

Fat is not in.  Slimming and trimming is. It's time for the town to go on a
diet.


2:36 pm edt 

Erik Out of Touch

We have about a dozen teenage girls graduating..this is why we are closing the
school. Millions for a handfull of studnets.

Remember when the affordable housing was going to have 3 bedroom apts for
families? They discovered that there are not takers because there are no year
round jobs here.

How is Eric going to produce more year round jobs when people haven't been able
to it for decades? Oh, yes, let the TOWN hire more people and let the taxpayers
pay their salary.

The town is built out with housing. For over a decade affordable housing has
been built here and is being built here.
2:20 pm edt 

Re: The Library

The tourist statue is not in the same place!
It used to be closer to Center St. And should now be pushed back to the wall to
open up more walk space.
11:20 am edt 

Re: Observations

"It seems like some people are deliberately chaining their bikes
improperly just so they have something to complain about."


Oh, yes, that must be it. I know that it takes me days, sometimes weeks, to find
something to complain about in Provincetown. I got a bicycle just so I could
improperly chain it at the library.

I also sometimes like to sneak up on the library director and poke her with a
stick. It makes her mad, and then I can complain about her.

Last month I sent myself an inflated property tax bill. I got tons of
complaining mileage out of that.

And the terrible roads? My friends and I have been, for years, taking a pickaxe
to them in the dead of night. We love to complain about the roads.

There's nothing to complain about in Provincetown. It's all the fault of us, the
whiners.
11:19 am edt 

Re: Why I'm Upset

Open Space needs to be bought up before it is built upon. 
The street paving will get done, its not as if we are driving
faster than 25 mph down Commercial or Bradford...
.....wake up and save our land before it's too late.
11:15 am edt 

Re: Library Lawn

Provincetown has a "building & grounds" Dept. Why can't
they mow the lawn weekly?  Who knows what they do besides drive around all day.
They could stretch it out in usual fashion so it takes three days and even
overtime.

As for Sandy's replacement...it has to be from outside.              has    
      ...                                                                                        
                                                                                                  
I for one am not comfortable with her                leading a Multi million
dollar municipal project
11:12 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

Why the DPW can't get this right, cutting and maintaining a lawn is beyond me.
There's actually a person on the DPW that runs his own yard and lawn
maintainence company locally so why is this a problem to understand? Maybe the
library would sub it out to someone that has some brains?
10:57 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library
 
Why the DPW can't get this right, cutting and maintaining a lawn is beyond me.
There's actually a person on the DPW that runs his own yard and lawn
maintainence company locally so why is this a problem to understand? Maybe the
library would sub it out to someone that has some brains?
10:47 am edt 

Observations

On the library: If there was a problem with the sprinkler system the whole lawn
would be damaged.  Look closely at the yellow part and you'll see that the
problem is that the sod wasn't laid properly.  That's a quick fix.  The DPW cuts
grass, and they have more than a dozen buildings plus cemetaries to cut, so the
library has to wait its turn.
The landscaping is not a 'disaster.'  It's not fancy, but I don't think there's
manpower to maintain specialty plants and flowers.  What's there looks fairly
self-sufficient.
Yes, people are going to let their dogs use the lawn.  They do it at Town Hall,
they do it anywhere there's grass- or sand, or gravel, or crushed shell. 
Provincetown was voted the most dog friendly town in the country, so if we want
the honor we have to accept the responsibility that goes with it.
As far as the bicycle racks go, I use them all the time and there's plenty of
room.  The end of my bike sticks out less than the sidewalk beside the library,
so there's at least enough room as a normal sidewalk (3 or 4 ft?).  If people
don't know how to properly use something as simple as a bike rack, they probably
shouldn't operate a bike, or any machinery.  It's true that there's not enough
racks- there's room for 12 bikes in the front and side of the building, but come
tourist time everyone in the center part of town is going to want to park their
bicycle there.  I don't think any number would be 'enough.'
As far as the statue goes, it's in the same place as it used to be before they
remodeled, but the sidewalk is much wider.  There's definitely room for
handicapped access the full length of the street if people don't do stupid
things.
It seems like some people are deliberately chaining their bikes improperly just
so they have something to complain about.
There are lots of buildings in town, and lots of miles of road.  Those things
have to be maintained and repaired.  It's not fun or pretty, but it's necessary.
Provincetown makes the majority of its money from the tourist trade. If we don't
maintain our roads, buildings, piers, parkiing lots, and if we don't have zoning
standards to prevent chains and big box stores from coming here, our tourism
will suffer, and so will our pocketbooks.  Yes, we're spending money, but we're
making money, too.  It's called investment.
People complain about Town Hall, and it's a true work of art.  Yes, it took
money to fix, but it was falling down, and part of our town pride comes from our
history, so it's important to maintain our historic buildings.
People complain about outsiders coming in to take jobs, but did qualified
residents apply for them?
There are posts criticizing Mary Jo Avellar's selection for Fincom, but she
hasn't selected anyone yet.  Similarly, there are predictions about how Erik
Yingling will vote as a selectman, but he's yet to attend his first meeting. 
Give them a chance.
Finally, we are not a town of 3,000.  There may be 3,000 year-round residents,
but much of the property (and a lot of the expensive property) is second-home
owners.  They pay taxes, too.  More property is rental.  Tenants indirectly pay
taxes through their rent.  The entire financial burden does not rest on 3,000
people.
Provincetown is nothing like Orleans.  The demographics and visitors are
entirely different.  Comparing budgets is meaningless.
I agree with the person who said there's no need to say hateful things about
people.  Let's discuss ideas and find solutions, not just expose our ugly souls
to the world.
We live in one of the most beautiful places on the planet.  Stop complaining and
just realize how lucky you are.
10:41 am edt 

Re: Building Committee

I am one of the applicants for the Building Committee. If appointed,
will only be 20% of the vote on the BC, but I am NOT going to 'railroad'
anything down my neighbors and friends throats.

Maybe after the appointments, you can reach out to each individual and express
your concerns over a friendly cup of coffee?
10:36 am edt 

Friday, May 11, 2012

Re: Building Committee

The Building Committee has been misnamed. It should be the Railroad Committee.
It's task will be rail road a huge police station and DPW facility through Town
Meeting.

Slower, and more gently than the previous effort. Same product, new pitch.
10:25 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

It's funny that when the cost of a new library is the subject, the
focus becomes the upkeep of the front lawn. Maybe this is a silly forum with
petty concerns instead of constructive solutions.
9:38 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

Yesterday, going to one of the Townie parties, I saw a bike attached
to one of the outer loops of the single bike racks in front of the library.
There was not enough clearance for a wheelchair to get by!

The library screwed up on the placement of the bike racks but won't take
responsibilty fixing them because of the cost. Great way to treat disabled
folks, isn't it?

9:37 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

"Your ignorance is showing"


Goodness.  Can't you simply disagree with the opinions expressed, why must you
insult writers?

One can argue why the library landscaping looks so poorly or why the bike racks
were mis installed, or why the put public art on the public sidewalk or ....
Blah blah blah

So to your point. Yes, if one works very hard and spends a lot of money on
chemicals and water, one can make a lawn grow. But it's just another type of
maintenance and maintenance is something Provincetown just can't get right.

Like many of the choices made for the library, the landscaping options were both
expensive and impracticable.
9:34 am edt 

Re: DPW - Promotion

What's the problem now? Stop kvetching about the asst. D.P.W.
appointment! Stop trying to micromanage govt. Sandy was an on the job trainee. 
Sherry can do the same .It was reported that Sherry received a sizable salary
increase and a different title in management.  Suck it up!  Not all engineers
know what they're doing either!  Some of us "townees" can recite a lot of their
costly failures around here that engineers did. over the years.  Titles are not
as important an familiarity of the terrain.
9:08 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

Library Lawn

"Putting a lawn on the lower cape was a mistake.
Putting a lawn on a slope facing the harbor was a mistake. Putting a lawn in a
dog "friendly" town was a mistake."


Your ignorance is showing. Hundreds of people own homes with beautiful lawns all
across the lower cape. It's the easiest and neatest way to maintain your yard.
Basic care is all that's needed. Bottom line, if a sprinkler system is
installed, turn on each zone for 20 minutes per day, no rain sensors. Cut the
grass once a week, need it or not up until the first frost and then as needed
and fertilize with basic lawn fertilizer. If the town passed the no pesticide
bylaw for municipal lawns, it will NEVER look perfect. But there are systems
with organic weed and bug killers.
As far as natural native plantings instead, does anyone remembr what the Truro
police and fire department yard looked like prior to the lawn? Passing that
every day was a disaster. It looked awful and finally they changed it.

6:38 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

While we're dishing the landscaping of our library, can anybody tell be
why the statue (the tourists) was placed almost right in the middle of the walk
way! And why was the bike rack put in wrong and block people trying to walk pass
them. I cant believe the town paid somebody good money for this mess,
6:27 am edt 

Thursday, May 10, 2012

Re: Provincetown Public Library

The original plan for the front of the library was to use all native
Cape Cod plantings. Who changed that to a suburban grass lawn??? Who was the
landscaper that came up with such an ugly plan???  Hopefully nobody uses this
person again!
11:19 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

It's definitely no surprise that the library landscaping is already a
mess. After languishing for years, it was slapped together at a time when the
library board was under fire and many were doubting that the project would ever
be finished.

Just wait a few more months.  The brickwork will all soon be crumbling, too.
2:50 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library
 
"kudos to those posters last year who predicted the town
could not take care of the new library lawn.  Your predictions have come true. 
I can't believe how bad the front library lawn looks."

Putting a lawn on the lower cape was a mistake.
Putting a lawn on a slope facing the harbor was a mistake. Putting a lawn in a
dog "friendly" town was a mistake.

But the greater mistake was putting the bike rack on the sidewalk and
miss-installing it so it holds only half as many bikes as it was designed to
accommodate!

Fanboys: What part did the prior administration have in this blunder?
2:48 pm edt 

Re: DPW

"Ok so if their not going to fill the position what is Sherry Prada's
roll? A fairly new employee . . ."



I think someone is mis-informed here (imagine that).  When I asked they were
accepting applications and planned to fill the position.  It's not being
eliminated.
12:07 pm edt 

Re: What's Going on?

I wish those on this site that are trying to compare Ptown and
Orleans' budgets would try to use their brains.  While benchmarking comparable
budgets is a great practice, there is absolutely no comparison between Orleans
and Ptown.  Ptown has a population of tens of thousands more than Orleans in the
peak summer.  Ptown is a tourist and transporation hub with hundreds of
thousands of day visitors, ferry and whale watch visitors passing through during
the season.  Provincetown has a huge seasonal condo population which Orleans
does not have.  A huge seasonal work force which Orleans does not have. 
Nightlife which Orleans doesn't have.  All this and more creates significant
resource demands upon the town.  Just go to Orleans in the height of the season
and see what a sleepy, quiet place it is.  Nothing like Ptown, thankfully!  I'll
take Provincetown and it's budget in a nanosecond over Orleans.

On a different topic, kudos to those posters last year who predicted the town
could not take care of the new library lawn.  Your predictions have come true. 
I can't believe how bad the front library lawn looks.  Why did they even bother
to fix it up?  It hasn't yet been mowed and parts of it are burned out which
indicates the irrigation system is not working properly.  What a disgrace for
the town and for those who donated towards the library completion.

Steve Tait
12:06 pm edt 

Re: Why I'm Upset!

"I'm not upset that I have to pay for basic services. I'm upset with a
library that cost 8 plus million dollars when we already had a library. I'm
upset that we continue to buy "open spaces" around town before we finish paving
the streets."



Then don't vote for it.  The complaints about having to pay for something that
residents voted in favor of is wacky.

And I agree with you, the library should have stayed where it was, but town
voters said OK to moving it and now we have to pay for it.
12:00 pm edt 

Re: What's Going on?>

"Fanboys will tell you otherwise, but we do not have to do overrides
for capital expenditures."


Perhaps the previous writer mis-spoke, but he/she stated overrides needed to be
part of the operating budget.  The charter does not allow an $800,000 paving
project to be part of the operating budget, it must be considered as a capital
improvement.  How you choose to pay for it is an entirely different
conversation.
11:58 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Finances

Let's be very clear. Towns, including this one, can operate, and buy new things,
undertake capital projects, maintain the roads build new schools without tax
limit overrides. How the Charter requires votes on spending authority is
irrelevant to the point.


NO MORE DEBT OVERRIDES for routine expenditures. The idea we have a balanced
budget is pure fiction. We are overspending the prop 2 1/2 tax levels without
actually getting anything done!
11:54 am edt 

Re: What's Going on?

I said:

"You really have no idea what you are talking about.  First step, try reading
the charter for the town."

You said:

"The Charter addresses the vote for spending authorization, it is silent on the
requirement that it be in excess of the levy limit."



You stated all the overrides should be part of the budget and I'll quote you
directly 'All of the overrides this year  belonged in the operating budget'

Again I'll suggest you read the charter where it states capital improvements are
separate from the operating budget.  Capital improvements are NOT, according to
our charter, part of the operating budget.  I'm not sure how it can be made any
clearer to you.
9:37 am edt 

Re: Deputy DPW Director Position

Ok so if their not going to fill the position what is Sherry Prada's roll? A
fairly new employee, why do we call her with the questions that Sandra Turner
used to answer??  Something smells fishy here........
9:34 am edt 

Why I'm Upset!

I'm not upset that I have to pay for basic services. I'm upset with a
library that cost 8 plus million dollars when we already had a library. I'm
upset that we continue to buy "open spaces" around town before we finish paving
the streets. I'm upset with all the money that goes to the tourism office from
increased room revenue tax, when the tourism director spends his winters in Palm
Springs instead of being here all year. This is stuff you just can't make-up!
9:31 am edt 

Poor Use of Overrides!

Fanboys will tell you otherwise, but we do not have to do overrides for capital
expenditures. This read the charter line makes it sound official, but it remains
untrue. And the poster who keeps saying it knows it is untrue.
Shame on Fanboys. Lot's of politicians lately can't balance a budget. Our BoS/TM
are among them.

We have been using overrides to balance the budget for years.
9:29 am edt 

To: Finance Committee

Maybe someone on FinCom or the BOS will have an answer to this.  I
doubt it though.



http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2012/05/09/how_much_do_you_owe_government_workers__99661.html

How Much Do You Owe Government Workers?

By Steven Malanga
Thanks to promises made over the years by the St. Paul school board, taxpayers
in the Minnesota city owe teachers and other education workers some $409 million
in retirement health benefits that the district hasn't funded. So the school
system has taken advantage of a new state law that allows local governments to
levy a special property tax to help finance these benefits. This year, the
district anticipates collecting an additional $12.8 million from property owners
thanks to this new, so-called "other post-employment benefits" levy, according
to the St. Paul Pioneer Press.

The St. Paul school district is one of the few government entities I've found so
far that charges a specific new tax to help pay off the staggering cost of
retiree benefits. Most places are still dealing with their growing liabilities
out of precious general revenues. But more such dedicated taxes are likely on
the way.

The tab that state and local governments have accumulated in unfunded retiree
benefits now amounts to several trillion dollars. In the last few years much of
the debate about these obligations has focused on whether they would generate a
wave of local government bankruptcies, thanks to a controversial prediction by
celebrity analyst Meredith Whitney.

But while some people have been waiting for a government insolvency tsunami, the
cost of retiree benefits to annual budgets has been soaring, crowding out other
spending and gobbling up increases in general tax collections. Slowly taxpayer
groups and other fiscal watchdogs have started adding up how much citizens may
owe their local government workforce and how much they may have to pay in
additional taxes as a result. If you live in St. Paul, the exercise isn't
theoretical anymore. That may be the case in lots of other places soon.

The crowding up and gobbling up is already here. New York City's pension costs
have increased during Mayor Bloomberg's tenure from about $1.5 billion annually
to $8.5 billion. The city's also putting aside $1.6 billion this year for
retiree health care, though it probably should be investing more. I've estimated
that those rapidly increasing retiree costs have soaked up more than one-third
of additional taxes the city is collecting these days compared to when Bloomberg
took office.

Without reform, you can't raise taxes fast enough to pay off these retirement
liabilities in some places. David Crane, a California Democrat who advised
former Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger on pensions, recently argued that much of
the boost in revenues that would result from voter approval of Gov. Jerry
Brown's proposed 2012 tax increase referendum would go to pensions. That's
because CalSTERS, the California teachers' pension fund, is so seriously
underfunded it needs to nearly double the contributions it receives from school
districts to almost $10 billion annually to keep the fund on the path to
solvency. Schools would get some $3.5 billion of new tax revenues if voters
approve the November initiative, but those new funds would immediately be
gobbled up by the higher pension costs.

Illinois residents know what it's like to see tax revenues get sucked into an
expensive and underfunded pension system. The state boosted taxes by $7 billion
last year and promised to use the money to pay down its backlog of bills. But
legislators did nothing substantial to slow the growth of the state's retiree
costs. Since 2003 the state has largely used borrowed money, not tax revenue, to
make required contributions into its pension funds because the cost of benefits
was so high. But this year, under pressure not to keep borrowing, the state must
ante up tax money, to the tune of $4.1 billion, to make its pension
contribution, plus find another $1.6 billion in interest costs on past pension
borrowings. Meanwhile, the backlog of unpaid bills grows bigger.

Taxpayer groups are totaling up the potential damage. Last year the
Massachusetts Taxpayer Foundation estimated the total unfunded pension and
retiree benefit bill for 50 of the state's biggest communities. Boston, the
group discovered, owed $7.5 billion. To pay that off in 30 years with property
taxes would require a 118 percent increase in the local levy. Total cost to the
average Boston homeowner: $97,825 over 30 years. Even that was nothing compared
to the potential tab in the town of Lawrence: a 255 percent tax increase, or
$181,604 over 30 years for the average homeowner to pay off the town's promises
to workers.

In Chicago, the Civic Federation estimates, the average resident owes nearly
$15,000 as a share of the city's share of municipal, county and state pension
obligations. Last year the city's former chief financial officer estimated that
just adequately funding the municipal pension debt over 25 years could raise
property taxes by 50 percent.

If you consider this all speculative and doubt it could happen, think of St.
Paul, or of Oakland. Property owners in the California city have been paying a
surcharge on taxes for decades to finance a pension system that went bust in the
1970s. The average homeowner today pays $419 in additional taxes to help wind
down the system, according to the Oakland Tribune.

For decades residents seeking a place to settle down considered taxes, quality
of life and quality of government institutions like schools when they made their
choices But today with governments facing immense debt from retirement benefits
that have already been earned but not paid for, the new yardstick for where to
situate yourself may include asking a local real estate agent, "Just how much
would I owe your government workers?"

9:26 am edt 

Override Double-Think?

I do not understand how people can complain about overrides,yet still
pass them. I voted against the overrides and want our town government to
decrease it spending habits.
9:15 am edt 

Re: Finance Committee - Duane Steele

"I have no idea if Steele will be better, but he can't be worse."


As previous writer stated, the standards are lower now for FinCom.


9:13 am edt 

Re: What's Going on?

"You really have no idea what you are talking about.  First step, try reading the
charter for the town."


The Charter addresses the vote for spending authorization, it is silent on the
requirement that it be in excess of the levy limit.
9:09 am edt 

Re: So Glad There is New Blood at the BOS

"I did not like the old group and old they were. Old in thinking and
older still in acting. They did nothing!"



If you don't think much of old people you are living in the wrong town.
9:05 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Finances

Provincetown is really no different than the rest of the country. 
People want things and services from their government, but they don't want to
have to pay for it.

Town folks want their streets paved, but complain when they have to pay for it. 
Town folks voted to move to a larger grander library, but complain when they
have to pay for it.  Town folks want clean streets and want their trash picked
up, but complain about paying the staff an vote down the equipment they need to
do their job.  We want it all and we get upset when we find out we have to pay
for it.

9:02 am edt 

Re: Town Finances

"What on earth is our town government doing?  How inefficient,
inept and overpaid are our town leaders?
We the citizens must put an end to the present administration because they are
taking us for suckers."

AGREE!!!!!


8:26 am edt 

Listen up Knight!

You wrote:

"How is it that Orleans with more than twice the population,
a much larger land area to maintain, (many more miles of roads) a much, much
larger school system, etc., etc., is able to  do it all wth just a slightly
higher budget than Provincetown, and no overides.  What on earth is our town
government doing."


I say: Let's ask this at the next BoS candidate forum.

And the BIG HINT: Listen up Knight. Someone is going to ask this question of you
11 months from now. Study up!
8:24 am edt 

Re: DPW

So what ever happened to the deputy dpw directors position?..We all
hope it was/will be given to the "right" qualified person . . ." "They decided
not to fill it and save the money."



Actually, Our DPW is held in such poor regard, we couldn't get a single
qualified resume.
8:05 am edt 

Re: Fincomm and Duane Steele

"Duane is a bitter ex town(city) employee with a singular focus -  That doesn't
make him a good candidate for FinCom"


FinCom already had one of those. Left in a huff. Boorish.Childish, Immature. I
have no idea if Steele will be better, but he can't be worse.
8:02 am edt 

So Glad There is New Blood at the BOS

I did not like the old group and old they were. Old in thinking and oler still
in acting. They did nothing!

I'm looking forward to the change and to the new voice. Maybe now we'll get a
chorus instead of the strident voices of these others.
12:14 am edt 

Re: Fincomm and Duane Steele

"Duane is worthy of serious consideraton on FinCom."


Duane is a bitter ex town employee with a singular focus - the pier.  That
doesn't make him a good candidate for FinCom, although it appears FinCom is
going to have lower standards in the future.
12:12 am edt 

Re: What's Going on?

Orleans and Provincetown Budgets

How is it that Orleans with more than twice the population,
a much larger land area to maintain, a much, much larger school system, etc.,
etc., is able to  do it all wth just a slightly higher budget than Provincetown,
and no overides.  What on earth is our town government doing?  How inefficient,
inept and overpaid are our town leaders?
We the citizens must put an end to the present administration because they are
taking us for suckers.
12:10 am edt 

Re: What's Going on?

"Provincetown and Orleans are very different."


Fully agree - they have their act together.
12:09 am edt 

Sorry, But Sharon Has to Point the Finger to Herself

The overrides are her doing, not Keith Bergman's. She has been in office long
enough. She owns the fiscal problems and she owns how the town is managed.

She has refused to make tough decisions and her approach has been to give
everyone raises--including herself--instead of tightening the financial strings.
She should have put a freeze on raises two years ago and she should have cut
positions where needed. But this she never did and I don't see her doing this
now. Her approach has been to spend, create big projects and look to overrides
and higher taxes to solve any problems that results.

This is not the best way or even a good way to manage Provincetown. The price we
all will pay soon enough will be enormous. Look at this year's tax bill. Next
year will be worse and the year after. Sadly, mark my words.
12:05 am edt 

Re: DPW

"So what ever happened to the deputy dpw directors position?..We all
hope it was/will be given to the "right" qualified person . . ."



They decided not to fill it and save the money.  I hear Yingling is ticked off
that they decided to eliminate a job.
12:03 am edt 

Re: What's Going on?

"All of the overrides this year  belonged in the operating budget. 
None of them was extraordinary. And each was for routine expenses.  The myth we
are balancing our budget simply isn't true"



You really have no idea what you are talking about.  First step, try reading the
charter for the town.


12:01 am edt 

Wednesday, May 9, 2012

DPW Organization - Promotion

So what ever happened to the deputy dpw directors position?..We all
hope it was/will be given to the "right" qualified person.and not just handed to
one of Guertins soldiers.
12:15 pm edt 

Town Finances

Citizens need to watch how government spends their tax dollars.  We
need to address unfunded pension liabilities as well as health insurance costs
for town employees. There should be a hiring and pay freeze for town employees
as long as overrides and spending increases occur.
12:13 pm edt 

Re: What's Going on?

"You can blame the current admin all you want for the
overrides, but if prior administrations had done their job we wouldn't be in
this position today."



The prior administration was run by King George. Stop blaming the King of
England for the roads & buildings being in poor repair.

All of the overrides this year  belonged in the operating budget.  None of them
was extraordinary. And each was for routine expenses.

The myth we are balancing our budget simply isn't true

12:08 pm edt 

Re: What's Going on?

". . .that Orleans passed their budget last night for 28 miilion
dollars. . ."


Comparing apples to oranges.  Provincetown and Orleans are very different.
12:06 pm edt 

Re: Harbormaster Costing the Town Thousands of Dollars - Checks & Balances

"There are no checks and balances the Town has to make sure all the
mooring fees due them are collected."



Not sure what you are expecting.  Should the finance director or the assessor
climb into a boat every couple of weeks and go check the moorings to see if a
mooring is out there, is a boat parked at the mooring, if there is a boat is the
mooring paid? etc.

I see what you are saying about checks and balances, but I think it's the Piers
responsibility to have proper procedures, checks and balances.  I don't see the
town physically enforcing the mooring fees, it's not realistic.
12:02 pm edt 

To: Mary-Jo Avellar

With all due respect to Ms. Avellar,

The problem is NOT citizens who don't put their "money where there mouth is". 
Taxes are paid and overrides are passed---they DO put their money where their
mouth is...more to her point....citizens need to (as she actually advocates) put
their TIME where their mouth is and SERVE!
7:30 am edt 

Re: What's Going on?

"Orleans has a population of about 6,000 people.  Provincetown has a
operating budget of 24 million dollars, and requested 7 overrides this year.
Provincetown has a population of about 3000 people."


Orleans most likely kept up the maintenance on their buildings over the years. 
Provincetown did not.  You can blame the current admin all you want for the
overrides, but if prior administrations had done their job we wouldn't be in
this position today.
7:25 am edt 

Re: Harbormaster Costing the Town Thousands of Dollars

"Since when did the Town Pier become a separate entity?"


If you really don't know that answer then you have not been paying attention. 
The Pier Cop is a completely separate legal entity and was set up in that manner
back in the early 2000's at the insistence of the state because the state did
not trust the BOS to run the Pier.

Who was on the BOS at that time?  Two of the Selectmen were Mary Jo Avellar and
Cheryl Andrews.  You may draw your own conclusions.
7:23 am edt 

Re: Harbormaster Costing the Town Thousands of Dollars

"Assessment and collection of town mooring and dockage fees are a
totally separate matter covered by separate laws."




You are missing the point. There are checks and balances to make sure property
taxes are collected.

There are no checks and balances the Town has to make sure all the mooring fees
due them are collected.

Again, the PPPC has failed to collect many tenant fees over the years amounting
to tens of thousands of dollars in write-offs, it is agruably a fair assumption
they have not collected all the mooring fees either.


7:19 am edt 

Thanks for Your Post Mary-Jo

Duane and Ms. Nagle did a great job exposing financial irregularties and
mismanagemnt on the pier a few years ago that led to fiscal accountibility and a
stronger Pier Corporation board today.

Duane is worthy of serious consideraton on FinCom.



7:18 am edt 

Re: Harbormaster Costing the Town Thousands of Dollars

The Town is suppose to get both the mooring fees and boat excise tax.
Are you saying that not all mooring fees are collected too? Can you name some
boats past and present on moorings that haven't paid these two fees?

Definitely worth looking into. Thanks.
7:15 am edt 

Tuesday, May 8, 2012

Re: Harbormaster Costing the Town Thousands of Dollars

David, could you please write a letter to the editor addressing the
failure of collecting the Town's mooring fees? That will put public pressure on
the BOS to do something about it!

Thanks!
11:44 pm edt 

What's Going on?

I heard on the radio today, that Orleans passed their budget last
night for 28 miilion dollars. Orleans has a population of about 6,000 people.
Provincetown has a operating budget of 24 million dollars, and requested 7
overrides this year. Provincetown has a population of about 3000 people. We are
doing something wrong.
11:43 pm edt 

Re: Harbormaster Costing the Town Thousands of Dollars

Dear David,

Thank you for bringing this revenue issue to our attention. It makes one realize
there are many more opportunities available besides forcing townies out the the
MPL.

It's nice to know there are law enforcement personnel, albeit retired, that have
the emotional maturity beyond a 12-year-old, looking after the town.

11:41 pm edt 

Re: Finance Committee - Duane Steele

DUANE:

It does not scare me even a little bit that Duane is on the finance comm. If the
Pier Corp. and the BOS had listened to his well documented proposals 3 short
years ago and replaced Rex we would not have to have Police officers that so far
seem to be unfriendly greeting the 200,000 visitors that will be arriving on the
high speed ferries.
11:39 pm edt 

Re: Finance Committee - Mary-Jo Avellar

Rest assured that I plan on taking my sweet time before I make any
appointments to the finance committee. To those who are worried about whom I may
or may not appoint, or who think I have an "agenda", put your fears aside. If I
had an "agenda", I would have run for selectman instead of moderator. And, I
urge people who really care about the town to put their money where their mouths
are and apply for all of these boards and committees crying out for members, and
that includes the finance committee.

Mary-Jo Avellar


11:36 pm edt 

Re: Harbormaster Costing the Town Thousands of Dollars

It is not fair to compare property tax assessment and collection to
the assessment and collection of town mooring and dockage fees.  Assessment and
collection of property taxes are 2 separate functions for good reason.  The
property tax assessment functions are split between the assessor, who assesses
the tax, and the tax collector, who collects the tax.  When property taxes
remain unpaid it is the tax collector who puts a lien on the property with the
assistance of town council.  This is the way property tax payment is enforced
and it is supported by the laws of the state.  Assessment and collection of town
mooring and dockage fees are a totally separate matter covered by separate laws.
11:32 pm edt 

Re: Harbormaster Costing the Town Thousands of Dollars

"My statement was not out of vengeance, but factual. I'm not part of an
attack group, but when it comes to the Harbormaster's ability to perform his
duties, he is lacking in knowledge and experience."


There is a constant attack by a certain group, led by the town moderator and her
husband, against the harbormaster.  Because of the constant attacks the
credibility is lacking.  You are attempting to make the harbormaster lose his
job, the Pier Corp and apparently the town manager do not agree with you.

I have a tendency to agree with those who know the situation better than do you
and the rest of your attack group.
11:27 pm edt 

Finance Committee - Duane Steele

Since when did the Town Pier become a separate entity?  It is a
roadway attached tto the  town  and has always been maintained by the Town
D.P.W. as it should be now and not by harbormasters or police..This is an 
unnecessory taxpayers scam.Mary Jo  is Moderator by default because all you
complainers didn't run in opposition so you created the Town's destiny. If she
appoints her own team in now it's no different than what's been being done all
along by others., just different people playing the same game!  When she was
viciously  unseated from chairmanship  on the Bd. of S. in the contrived,abusive
way publicly that I ever witnessed,it was shameful!!. Some quitters are spoiled
brats used to getting their own way so they organize stacked decks  of members
that won't cause opposition.  When it's dismantled they they can't deal with it 
and quit instead.  They are not acting in the best interest of the town but of
their own hidden agendas.  Mary Jo can legally appoint Duane . 
She's only  appointing  Fin Com. members ,not serving or voting on
that board.. Duane is far more capable than some that have served on that board
recently and in the not too distant past..If the one that criticized Duane's
loss of the Red Inn  knows all the details then tell us. Ifthe same person is
lily  white and without  transgressions then tell us but I bet you won't !
11:25 pm edt 

Re: Harbormaster Costing the Town Thousands of Dollars

Credibility

I challenge you or anyone to find my statement to be false. My statement was not
out of vengeance, but factual. I'm not part of an attack group, but when it
comes to the Harbormaster's ability to perform his duties, he is lacking in
knowledge and experience.

David Ditacchio, Marine Superintendent, RET.
8:00 am edt 

Re: Harbormaster Costing the Town Thousands of Dollars

Regardless of vengence or vendetta, if his point is correct, then it should be
looked into. Has anyone questioned the assessors? Has anyone brought it to the
assessors boss' attemtion, the TM? Lost revenue over how many years adds up to
many many thousands of dollars that we residents end up paying.
7:58 am edt 

Restaurant Experience

Had dinner at a restaurant in the west end that serves tapas.  Food
was ok but nothing memorable for the price.  What was upsetting was there were 4
of us dining and we ordered the bruschetta for 8 dollars and what came to the
table were 3 small pieces of french bread with topping.  Geez, could they have
at least spared one more piece?  Suggestion,  it would be more appropriate to
serve 4 pieces!

 
7:57 am edt 

Re: Harbormaster Costing the Town Thousands of Dollars

There are no safety checks and balances that the Town has to make sure
all the mooring fees due it have been collected by the Pier Corp. Just ask the
Finance Director to confirm which I did.

It would make sense if the PPPC has been unable or unwilling to collect tenant
fees on the pier and have written off tens of thousands of pier fees over the
years that the Town has not received its due mooring fees over the years.
Remember at Town Meeting when asked, the harbormaster didn't know if all mooring
fees had been collected. It's unbelievable but true. Imagine if the Town didn't
know whether or not it had collected all the real estate taxes due year to year.

Mr. Dattachio is correct. Thank you for your post.
7:54 am edt 

Monday, May 7, 2012

Re: Harbormaster Costing the Town Thousands of Dollars

Dear Mr. Ditacchio,

Ann Maguire and Tom Ceon left behind  microphones with your name on them. Please
see the town clerk for more information.
Rock On
10:21 pm edt 

Re: Harbormaster Costing the Town Thousands of Dollars

Mr. Dattachio, the Town finally did something about the harbormaster's
inability to maintain order and safety on the pier. Now we have to have a police
presence which is costing taxpayers. The harbormaster has been demoted to
maintenance of the pier. The finances of the pier have also been taken away and
are now on the Town's munis system and they have to meet quarterly with the
Finance Committee.

Change has been slow and certainly frustrating. The Selectmen past and present
have acted s..l..o..w..l..y over the years but the operations down there are
nothing like they was just four years ago.

The Pier Corporation is hardly a 'semi-autonomous' board anymore which is how it
was set up by the Commonwealth. Why? Too many screw-ups both with their
accounting and operations.

Will the all mooring fees ever be collected? I don't see how with the current
failed system of collecting.
10:14 pm edt 

Re: Harbormaster Costing the Town Thousands of Dollars

Re:Mr. Ditacchio,
Apparently no one found your claims credible.


Doesn't mean it isn't true.


10:11 pm edt 

Re: Harbormaster Costing the Town Thousands of Dollars

Mr. Ditacchio,
Apparently no one found your claims credible.
7:51 pm edt 

Re: Harbormaster Costing the Town Thousands of Dollars

"When will someone incharge wake up and and remove this person and
appoint someone who can do the job.
David Ditacchio,
Provincetown Marine Superintendent Ret."


Another part of the attack group, huh?  When you have such a singular vengeance
against one person you lose your credibility.
7:47 pm edt 

Harbormaster Costing the Town Thousands of Dollars

I brought to the attention of the Pier Corp., the town manager and the town
assessor the fact that the harbormaster has been neglegent in not reporting many
boats moored in Provincetown harbor during our boating season to the assessor.

With the boat excise tax the town collects, half goes into the general fund and
the other half goes into the town's waterway improvement fund. I haved checked
the boat excise tax bills sent out for FY 2011 and FY 2012 and found that many
boats were never charged.  It is the duty of the harbormaster to report these
boats to the assessor. 

When will someone incharge wake up and and remove this
person and appoint someone who can do the job. 

David Ditacchio,

Provincetown Marine Superintendent Ret.


6:08 pm edt 

FinComm & Duane Steele

Maybe Duane will give the remaining problematic FinCom board members a
dose of what they gave to those who resigned!

What goes around comes around...to bite ya!
2:24 pm edt 

Quitting as a Responsible Act?

"Perhaps this should be our new question when people offer to serve: Do
you intend to serve your term, or are you a quitter?"


It's a volunteer position.  If it's not what you thought it would be or others
on the committee are impossible to work with I don't blame anyone for walking
away.  Life is too short to put up with any abuse from a volunteer position.


12:06 pm edt 

Re: Finance Committee Changes

The town manager appointed her partner to an elected board. Why
shouldn't the town moderator appoint her partner to a temporary committee?
12:04 pm edt 

Finance Committee Changes

Re: "You are all afraid fo the idea of Duane being on the board yet
give no concern for the rest of the board that MJA will now have the power to
appoint?"


I don't think many 'fear' Duane being on FinCom, that's not the right word. 
He's but one vote.  The issue is the town moderator potentially appointing her
husband, does she really think that's a good idea or doesn't she care?  And is
she going to appoint people to the committee that she thinks will be good as
FinCom members or is she merely consolidating her power?  We'll know soon
enough.

FinCom is going to be up for grabs and like someone else said the drama is going
to better than a Lifetime movie as all the new people bring their agendas to the
committee.  All these new people who have no idea of the history of the finances
of the town.  And just because you've lived here a long time doesn't mean you
know the history of the finances.  I pity the new chair, bet he didn't know what
he was getting into when he pushed Coen out.
12:01 pm edt 

FinComm Vacancy

If  a seat is open for two months, the Fin Comm may appoint it's own members
from applications received.
11:58 am edt 

To: Mary-Jo

This is all about a new consolidation of power.

Mary Jo please put the Town ahead of your personal agenda!
9:32 am edt 

Re: "Why are There Unions For Town Employees?"

My guess is to protect themselves.  Have you read this blog lately?
9:19 am edt 

Quitting as a Responsible Act ?

It seems to be the rage in our town lately.

Resignations:

Library Board of Trustees
Housing Authority
Beautification Committee
Finance Committee

Don't people understand the concept of making a promise anymore? You run for, or
accept appointment to, an office with a commitment to serve your term.

Perhaps this should be our new question when people offer to serve: Do you
intend to serve your term, or are you a quitter?

Hang in their kids. You can't always get what you want. But you certainly don't
get it, by quitting.


Slippery Clam
9:16 am edt 

Re: Finance Committee

You are all afraid fo the idea of Duane being on the board yet give no concern
for the rest of the board that MJA will now have the power to appoint? Duane is
one person, someone that I think will give the position it's due diligence but
my question is who are the others she's concidering? Duane may be outspoken but
he's one vote and he can be ouvoted by the others. The makeup of the ENTIRE
board is what concerns me.
9:13 am edt 

We Need a New Police Station Because?

Did anyone consider the fact that there is too much weight bearing on the second
floor? That's the reason the police station is sinking below the water table.

Perhaps the reason raw sewage makes its way into the basement (even though the
station is connected to the sewer) is because there are too many "top-heavy"
people on the second floor. Its like Provincetowns own version of the Three
Bears meets Humpty Dumpty. All at our expense.

Did the chief ever consider The Biggest Loser as a challenge? Its worked
miracles elsewhere in town. Just a little food for thought

Then there is the issue of the larger than life weight bearing officers driving
that SUV. We will need to replace that vehicle sooner than later, not to mention
the gas guzzling thats being done all at our expense.

Donuts? PHOP? Chinese food? The question becomes this: Can the Town afford all
this extra weight? Enough already. All at our expense

Do the math. Reduce the fat and we might not sink below the surface. Or,
perhaps, we already have.

9:11 am edt 

Duane Steele?

God help us all.  Talk about a conflict of interest.  Didn't he throw the Red
Inn into bankruptcy?  What financial experience/credibility does he possess?
9:09 am edt 

Re: We Have Not Heard From "Sharon's Fanboys" in a While

I think many have realized this blog is a waste of time as it only represents
Clarence's point of view as exhibited by his censoring of comments in the run-up
to the election.

If Clarence's goal is to present one point of view and he censors out others
then I suppose many have realized the blog serves little value other than
amusement.

9:07 am edt 

Re: Finance Committee

I was sorry to see Irene go  yet voted for Mary Jo  knowing
that Irene passed the gavel to her and had confidence that Mary Jo
would carry on and make appointments for the best interest for
the town. . I don't think it meant
Duane was part of the package deal.
Bad Deal
5:53 am edt 

OMG!

Whether  it is legal or not it is the most stupid political
move since Bill appointed the First Lady, Hillary to head
the Health Program.
Rule #1: Keep your spouse or close family members  as far
away from your cabinet.
I don't know who's idea this is, but it wrong. It hasn't even
been a week  since the election!!!!!!!!!
Maryjo and Duane THINK?
5:51 am edt 

Sunday, May 6, 2012

Finance Committee

OMG! Duane Steele on FinCom? How can Mary Jo appoint her husband? Is
that legal?
11:24 pm edt 

Finance Committee

FINCOM RESIGNED IN  MASS BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T WORK
WITH THE THREE REMAINING BOARD MEMBERS.  IT IS A PITY THAT THE TOWN WILL NOW
FACE  A VITIOLIC BOARD.  IT WILL BE UGLY.
7:48 pm edt 

Finance Committee

Duane Steele has applied to be on FinCom
7:46 pm edt 

Sharon's Fanboys

We have not heard from "Sharon's Fanboys" in a while.
Could it be that they never really existed?
7:45 pm edt 

Unions and Benefits
W
hy are there unions for town employees? Why are we paying health
insurance and pensions for the rest of a town employee's retirement? More
importantly, how do we stop these benefits for new hires?
7:43 pm edt 

Police Budget

Fire the fat.... that will save us a bundle
7:39 pm edt 

Re: Finance Committee

Plans to pay for retiree health benefits seem in short supply?
So I guess the Town Manager is clueless too?
6:28 pm edt 

Re: Finance Committee

Isn't the Town Manager's Plan for Retiree Health Benefits to wait for a
new Town Manager?
5:02 pm edt 

Re: Finance Committee

"The previous Chair and Vice Chair  of Fin Comm were proponents of the
Town Managers plan for retiree benefits."



Huh?  Not following.  They were proponents of what?
5:00 pm edt 

Your Legacy to Your Children

Keeping it simple (minded) is going to set this town back tremendously and your
children will be scorning you for decades to come when they have to pay
temendously for what you reject paying for now.
4:58 pm edt 

Re: An Open Letter

Re: "The fact our books are finally in order is a credit to the Town
Manager with able assists from the Finance Committee and Board of Selectmen."



Realizing that we don't need to rehash a past election I'm a liitle surprised by
this statement.  Yingling runs for Selectman, Donegan is his campaign manager,
they run on a platform of the  previous selectman accomplished nothing.  Post
election Donegan gives credit to the BOS for the fact that our books are in
order.  Seems like he has a tendency to talk out of both sides of his mouth.
4:56 pm edt 

Re: Finance Committee

The previous Chair and Vice Chair  of Fin Comm were proponents of the
Town Managers plan for retiree benefits.
1:28 pm edt 

Finance Committee

". . .under the purview of the FinanceCommittee.  .  ."


Under the purview of the finance committee is a statement I suspect you will
hear a lot in the future.  In the last year certain members of the committee
wanted to get into everything, the only thing that stopped them was the previous
FinCom chair who frequently stated it wasn't 'under the purview of the
FinanceCommittee'.  Now that Mr. Coen has resigned and no longer chairs the
committee I believe you will most likely see a committee with no boundaries.

And with the new moderator appointing up to six new committee members you are
going to see a FinCom like you've never seen before and not in a good way.  The
power struggles should provide good theater with no one on the committee having
more than two yrs experience.  Instead of an old  fashioned Lifetime movie I'll
be watching the drama on FinCom.

1:04 pm edt 

Re: What are You Going to do?

. . ."-neither issue is under the purview of the Finance
Committee, and the question of police overtime is best put to the
Chief of Police.

You can't just make this stuff up!


Taking a guess it meant liability for retirees, I just started to type retirees
on my iPad and auto correct put in refugees.  The liability issue is  a
legitimate question for a member of the BOS.   The police OT is budgeted, the
budget is the responsibility of FinCom so I can see why the question was asked. 
I doubt either person asked has a clue to an answer.
12:05 pm edt 

Police Regionalization

You want to have the chief of police contain overtime. This is the
same man pushing for more officers on the pier, more police vehicles, a new
police station, more, more,more. Bad idea. Regionalize good idea.
12:02 pm edt 

Michael Shay's - Restaurant Sold!

I guess I need a new diet plan... used to be I could just go to
certain salad bar in town and get a nice dependable "cleanse" the next day or
two... always a good way to take off five or ten pounds... so long, M.Shays!
12:00 pm edt 

Re; What are You Going to do?

"LiabilitY for refugees"

What does that mean?
9:38 am edt 

Re: What are You Going to do?

"Erik, what is your plan how to pay for the liability for refugees?
Tom, what is your plan to contain police overtime?"


What a stupid set of questions "liability for refugees", "contain
police overtime"-
neither issue is under the purview of the Finance
Committee, and the question of police overtime is best put to the
Chief of Police. 

You can't just make this stuff up!
9:36 am edt 

Re: Michael Shay's - Restaurant Sold!

"Just heard that Michael Shay's was sold and is closing tomorrow.
Sorry to hear that.  Will there be another restaurant replacing it?  Yearround?"



Yes, new restaurant is replacing them.  I've heard they are going to be closed
for a couple of months for renovation.  New owner has another place in Wellfleet
that isn't a year-round place so I'm guessing this one wouldn't be either

9:24 am edt 

What are You Going to do?

Erik, what is your plan how to pay for the liability for refugees?
Tom, what is your plan to contain police overtime?

Silence...

It would appear they choose to use this blog as a PR tool, but liitle if
anything else.
9:21 am edt 

Sharing Resources - Regionalization

If we regionalize the police department wouldn't we save money? No new
police station, elimination of the police chief, combining redundant jobs....
Sounds like a smart idea to me. Why not do the same thing for our emergency
rescue department. Everytime we turn around there are new requests for
equipment.
9:18 am edt 

Re: Sharing Resources With Truro

Throwing Bedard, the incumbent, out of office sent a strong message to
Town government which it should heed.
Voters don't want pay for a $14,000,000 police station but they do agree they
need a new police station.

Town government was smart how they approached the renovaton of Town Hall with a
series of overrides over several years which amounted to $7,000,000 (for a staff
on 30). They made the wrong assumption that they could fast track the the police
station.

There was no public outcry at the high cost of renovating Town Hall. It is too
bad they didn't separate the Highway Department from the police station. It
would have been a much smaller number and maybe, voters would have not risen in
protest by voting out the incumbent.

But the damage has been done and serious cost saving steps must now be on the
table to win back the confidence of voters. That's why shared services at this
point must be looked at.
9:17 am edt 

Re: Sharing Resources With Truro - Police Station

If we share services such as records, emergency communication and
dispatch, perhaps we could free up those areas within the existing police
station to give our police more room that they need at the current facility?

Maybe that is not the solution, but I think it is worth a conversation. I think
one of the main obstacles of concern(and opposition) is the pay schedules of the
police changing when communities look at regionalizaton and/or sharing services.
I understand that concern.
9:13 am edt 

Re: Michael Shay's - Restaurant Sold!

Heard Pearl Restaurant in Wellfleeet bought Michael Shay's. Hooray
it's not going condo!
9:11 am edt 

Re: Sharing Resources With Truro - DPW

These ideas have all been explored over the past three years and it was decided
long ago and very quickly and easily that it would never work with either
department. Way too many details and issues, mostly rearding leadership and
money that makes the ideas impossible. Just because the DPW didn't get what it
wanted from the voters at the polls regarding equipment and the police
department is in a shambles doesn't make it appropriate to dump the problems on
someone else. Work it out and lets get our problems done locally.
9:09 am edt 

Saturday, May 5, 2012

Erik Yingling

Re: "I didn't vote for Erik. But now that he has been elected, let's
give him a chance for God's sake. The political season is over. Let's move on and
work together..."


Totally agree. Some people on this blog are starting to sound like Limbaugh who
said right after the President's inauguration that he wished for Obama to fail.

The people spoke with their vote. That's the way a democracy works, folks. The
election is over, and now, it's in ALL OF OUR BEST INTERESTS that the BOS, as
our policy-making body succeed.

10:52 pm edt 

Michael Shay's - Restaurant Sold!

Just heard that Michael Shay's was sold and is closing tomorrow. 
Sorry to hear that.  Will there be another restaurant replacing it?  Yearround?
10:50 pm edt 

Police Department:

I beg to differ...  you can go to the police station and there will NOT be ANY
officers HANGING around.......   I for one have had to go there on different
occasions for things and they have had to call in an officer from the road.
Obviously you have no conception about police work  and what it entails.... 
Let's not cast stones without the facts....

Regionalization may sound great but,what would you gain?..  You still need the
same amount of Officers covering both towns..
10:48 pm edt 

Combining Our Resources

Actually, I read a several articles about sharing police services.
Here are a couple of links:
http://www.njslom.org/documents/whitepaper.pdf
http://www.cdblaw.com/CMSADMIN/document/files/Regionalizing%20Police%20Services.pdf

Please don't assume no one does their research before they post.
10:46 pm edt 

Re: Combining Our Resources

"One more reason to combine the Truro and Provincetown departments.
Money is being wasted that could be saved."



It's always dangerous when people with minimal knowledge try to make decisions.
10:45 pm edt 

Jona Williams - Illusionist

I heard that Jona Williams is going to do Illusions at the Crown &
Anchor this summer. That would be a great improvement!
10:43 pm edt 

Combining Our Resources

Stop talking about combing the police departments..DO YOU REALLY THINK
THESE OTHER TOWNS WANT OUR DRAMA...
10:40 pm edt 

Re: Consolidating Police Departments

The police in Provincetown are receiving a very large amount of money
for overtime? One more reason to combine the Truro and Provincetown departments.
Money is being wasted that could be saved.
6:36 pm edt 

Consolidating Police Departments

I don't know nor do I care who keeps posting the idea about consolidating the
Police Depts (Ptown with Truro) but you have no clue what it entails. You have
no clue that all Police Depts operate different aside from the Laws they have to
enforce. You have no obvious understanding about the contracts each dept has
that makes each dept unique from each other. I bet if you went and worked for
Stop & Shop then went and worked for Shaws Mkt that they too are not the same
but it's amazing that you think the Police Depts do within the 4-walls that they
function from when two supermarkets can't (and that's just an example). Time for
you to wake up and smell the coffee.
5:29 pm edt 

To: FinCom Chair, Mr. Tom Donegan

"Has anyone looked at the overtime the police are getting? Seems to me
we should address this to cut costs."


It would appear the FinCom Chair is using Clarence's blog as his vehicle to
communicate so I would ask this question of him.  Mr. Donegan, have you or will
you, as FinCom chair, be looking into the overtime costs for the police
department?
5:23 pm edt 

Re: Sharing Resources With Truro

"We should also looking to share equipment and cost with Truro's DPW."

Why don't  we see if Truro will annex us so we can share everything.  We could
eliminate everyone in town hall.  Would need only one town manager, one
accountant, on town clerk,  etc.  If everything from Wellfleet to the end of the
Cape were one town we would save a heap of money.
5:18 pm edt 

Re: An Open Letter

"I understand some former members were disappointed with their
experience and found working on a committee difficult, while others became just
plain "burned-out"."


Let's be honest here, the majority of people who left did so because they were
unwilling to put up with the behavior of the person who is now the committee's
vice-chair.
5:15 pm edt 

Re: I'm Glad to See Changes in the Finance Committee

Re: "These are not easy times. Towns and cities and states are cutting
back and establishing a salary freeze is a solid step. Or if this is anathema to
some, then cut all positions by %15. This will also help our big time retirement
buget that is soon to face and highly burden Provincetown.

Sharon, this may mean you'll have to answer your own phone. .  ."


If I was a town employee I would think you folks are crazy.  They tried to
increase efficiencies by cutting the BOS secretary position and combining it
with the TM secretary position which is exactly how every other town on the Cape
does it, but the voice of the people said absolutely not,  don't cut sweet
      .  Then you elect a selectman whose stated goal is to not cut any
positions, but rather increase the town's payroll by adding positions.

Now you come back with cutting staff by 15%.


5:10 pm edt 

Pat Shultz Real Estate

Very important!  Bill Dougal is still at Pat Shultz working as hard as ever. He
did NOT retire. The new owners are Mike Minore, Joan Lenane and Joe DeMartino,
and it is business as usual, nothing has changed.

Thanks

Joe DeMartino
5:07 pm edt 

Building Committee

They extended the deadline to accommodate Coen's application, so safe
bet he'll get it.  Funny how BOS kept those discussions out of the public eye?
5:05 pm edt 

Overtime Costs

Has anyone looked at the overtime the police are getting? Seems to me
we should address this to cut costs.
3:05 pm edt 

Re: Sharing Resources With Truro - DPW

We should also looking to share equipment and cost with Truro's DPW.
2:31 pm edt 

Sharing Resources With Truro - Police Department

Sharing services with Truro is something we should explore. Let's keep
an open mind, shall we?
2:29 pm edt 

Re: An Open Letter

I didn't realize the former FinCom Chair was already appointed by the
Bos to serve on the Building Committee.
Mr. Donegan, perhaps you should do your homework first? It's quite presumputous
of you as no one has been appointed.

Please don't run FinCom based on presumption. You'll get the Town into trouble
and you'll have a hard time keeping a quorum!
2:27 pm edt 

Caldwell Banker Pat Shultz

To the original poster, Bill Dougal has NOT retired he is working and will
remain working and will still remain the professional and hard working,
dedicated broker he has been since 1994, don't put him out to pasture quite yet.
He has a hell of a lot of energy and good will left that most would envy!!

Rick Murray

2:26 pm edt 

I'm Glad to See Changes in the Finance Committee

Maybe now we'll hear some "NOs" to frivolous projects. Maybe now someone on this
committee will have the gumption to reject mega projects. And maybe someone will
see the limits to our resources and freeze all salaries.

These are not easy times. Towns and cities and states are cutting back and
establishing a salary freeze is a solid step. Or if this is anathema to some,
then cut all positions by %15. This will also help our big time retirement buget
that is soon to face and highly burden Provincetown.

Sharon, this may mean you'll have to answer your own phone and pen letters to
the town.
2:23 pm edt 

Maybe It's Time to Regionalize the Police Department

Yes this should be a big consideration for the new building committee. time to
share resources and share the costs. this surely would stop all the big expenses
and the new toys our police department is intent on getting. We don't need a
Provincetown only police department. they can keep the building here and put
other resources in Truro with the Truro police.

I like this idea and hope it is given the consideration it deserves. I surely
don't need another increase of $1,000 each year of taxes and even more to make
our police smile at the new digs. We need a space that works. Not a space that
financially burdens each taxpayer and the town.

Perhaps if I was making $130,000 like SHaron and Jeff are making, I'd be more
than happy to pay an extra $1,000 or an extra $2,000 more in taxes each year.
but I don't and I want our taxes to remain moderate so those who swere born here
and those who have lived here for so many years, can continue to afford to live
here. with the expenses of town hall renovations, the sewer system, the library,
they are at their wits end. time to stop this truly unnecessary spending of town
leaders who see no limits to spending and no limits to funding any project
presented.
2:21 pm edt 

Re: An Open Letter

Re: "This year, three members are returning while we will have four new
members."


Special note to the new FinCom chair.  According to the FinCom page on the
town's web site you will need six new members as you have a nine member
committee plus two alternates.  You may want to get the basics down before you
try to move forward.

Town Meeting voters approved reducing the size of the committee to seven, but
it's not effective until approved in Boston.
2:18 pm edt 

Re: Police Department Located in Truro

Re: "I also agree that having the police dept. in Turo is a wonderful idea
will double our force, and we will no longer need the summer officers!"


And I think it's an idiotic idea.  First and foremost are you aware that Truro
has already said no?  They and any other sane person knows the needs of a Truro
police force and that of Provincetown are vastly different, especially in the
summer.  How you think it would double our force is beyond me.  Do you really
think Truro will let Provincetown use their current force?  At no cost to us? 
Or are you now saying you would like to increase our police budget?

Another idea that doesn't make sense.
1:45 pm edt 

Police Department Located In Truro

I also agree that having the police dept. in Turo is a wonderful idea
will double our force, and we will no longer need the summer officers!On a side
                                                                                                              
from where he went to college. Westfeild State...                              
                           . Turo backs up the police all the time anyway it would
make sense and we will have officers always intown no matter what PATROLING as
they should be and not just sitting in the station doing nothing as it happens
so much esp. in the summer time.
12:32 pm edt 

Building Committee - New Police Station

Sharing services with the Truro police department such as dispatch,
records and emergency communications is something the new Building Committee
should look at to reduce the cost of a new police station.

It is the fiscally reponsible thing to do.


12:26 pm edt 

Dear Bicycle/Pedestrian Friends, and Supporters:

The Cape Cod Commission has launched a bicycle and pedestrian planning
questionnaire to gather input from Cape Cod residents and visitors as we work
with them to develop a regional bike/ped plan for OuterCape Cod.  If you have a
few minutes to spare, Id be most appreciative if you would take the survey.  And
please pass it along to your friends to keep the momentum going!

To access the questionnaire directly: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8YG9Y2N

To learn more about the Cape Cod Commissions bicycle and pedestrian program
initiative (where youll also find a link to the questionnaire), please visit
their website:
http://www.capecodcommission.org/initiatives/bikeped/

A bike vacation is the third most popular type of vacation in the United States.
Bike tourism helps the local economy similar to pet tourism.
Let's make Provincetown a bicycle friendly community and help our economy too!

Yours in Bicycle Safety,
Candace Nagle
Chair, Provincetown Bike Committee


12:23 pm edt 

Pat Shultz

Congratulations to Mike, Joan, Joe and Mike Z! The baton has been passed, great
to see workers become owners. Congratulations to Bill on his retirement.
10:18 am edt 

Try the Direct Approach

If you want to know Erik's or another Selectman  opinion why not contact them
directly? Posting specific questions to specific individuals on this blog would
appear to be a fools errand.

However I doubt many plans exist for retiree health beyond the Town Manager
proposal.
10:17 am edt 

Erik Yingling - One Vote

"What is this all about what erik Yingling will do? He is one of five.
what about the other four?"


Erik has not done anything at this point other than campaign.  He made campaign
promises he will find difficult to fulfill, he's alienated a large number of
people etc.  I think if I see him at BOS meetings and can tell he's read the
material in advance it will be more than I expected.
10:15 am edt 

Facing the Inevitable

All this talk about change.  As if we need more over-development and
affordable housing.  Building more affordable housing in a place where there are
few year round jobs makes no sense.  And creating more year round jobs is simply
not going to happen in any significant way.  Face the facts, we are a seasonal
beach community like so many up and down the east coast, all of which face the
same issues that we do, all of which would love to have a more year round
economy.  Until you can change the weather to be like summer year round, you are
not going to get a viable year round economy here.
10:13 am edt 

ATime to Move on

I didn't vote for Erik. But now that he has been elected, let's give
him a chance for God's sake. The political season is over. Let's move on and
work together...
10:11 am edt 

Re: Today I Received a Ticket

I have lived here since 1980. I have never been given a ticket by a policeman.
Today I received a ticket. This is not the Town of Truro with it's speed traps.
Either the current police chief changes his ways or I will actively
lobby for a new chief when his contract comes up for renewel.

7:24 am edt

It is understandable to be upset about receiving a ticket and it is commendable
that you have never recieved one in the past.  The fact of the matter is that
the police do set up speed traps in every town.  They are designed to (and
succeed) to lower the average travelling speed on the roadway.  Provincetown has
a very unique sequence of roadway geometry.  Many of the roads (especially
Bradford St.) have many blind curves and sidewalks that abutt the roadway.  This
not only makes high speeds a hazard for other vehicles but also pedestrians that
can end up being colatoral damage of a car loosing control.  Provincetown street
layouts are not meant for high speeds.

If you recieved a speeding citation you most likely earned it.  Unless you have
reason to believe that the operator of the radar/lidar unit falsely identified
or measured your speed incorectly, you have no defense.  Knowing the
Provincetown police being very organized and profesional I am sure all of their
equipment is properly certified and calibrated.

If you feel you were wrongly cited elect to motion your legal right to appeal
the citation.  You have 21 days to answer the citation.
10:09 am edt 

Congratualtions Erik Yingling
 
So glad you did get elected. You bring hope, enthusiasm and the real possibility
of change. And change is something we need.
12:29 am edt 

Friday, May 4, 2012

What About the Other Four

What About what elaine Andersen, Or John Santos or austin Knight Will
do?

what is this all about what erik Yingling will do? He is one of five. what about
the other four? We need to ask something more of them then sitting their butts
on a seat and sitting there week after week. They too and they importantly need
to do something constructive.

Let's hope they do. such change would be refreshing and needed here in town.
11:37 pm edt 

Re: Regionalization - The up Side

"Provincetown Police headquartered in Truro...."what is the response
time now, with the station in Provincetown?

Police would still be on patrol in Provincetown on every shift and they would
respond in the same time they do now.  Or maybe you haven't heard of the
invention of radio.

Regionalization makes sense for many functions and will happen sooner or later
for the same reason the high school was closed. Combining the 3 towns would
result in a police force that would still be smaller than a single precinct in
Worcester or Springfield;  and also have proportionally fewer crimes and
incidents.

If localization is so desirable, we should split the east end from the west end
into 2 towns, since according to many they are very different, and have double
everything.
11:33 pm edt 

Regionalization - The up Side

Merging the Truro and Provincetown police departments sounds like a
good idea.  It seems that there are Truro cops working in town all the time
anyway.  Think of all the money we would save on this crazy new police station.
11:29 pm edt 

I Have to Jump in Here With a Fact...

Back in Bergman era the town had seasonal "Ambassador's "
They wore period costumes and were all over the place answering tourist
questions and posing for photos.
Bottom line...tourists loved them and it didn't cost the Town amything!
One of the Boston boats paid for the Whole thing.
That's called Tourism folks!
Hope Eric can bring this great program back!
11:27 pm edt 

What is in a Name?

Seems someone who used to sign his namesky now posts anonymousky.
11:25 pm edt 

Erik Yingling - FaceBook

I agree with Eric's idea to use Facebook to keep townspeople informed. 
The entire BOS should do this.  It's 2012, not 1980. Bad enough we only have a
weekly newspaper.
11:21 pm edt 

FinCom

Only one hard working member of the Finance Committee resigned.
11:19 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

How committed are the remaining members to continue recommending the funding to
maintain our buildings and build what we need?


I'm sure Eric will suggest raising parking rates.  That will encourage more
tourism for town huh?  Comes down to two options - don't maintain the buildings
or raise taxes to maintain the buildings.

Pick your poison.
10:44 pm edt 

Erik Yingling

Eric says ". . . it is a shame that the high school is closing."


Talk about talking out both sides of one's mouth.  Eric says it's a shame the
high school is closing, but doesn't mention in the same sentence that he didn't
even go to the high school.
10:39 pm edt 

Daily Interactive Needed

I wish someone would start an online daily interactive newspaper for
Provincetown. With real reporting and editorial content.
10:36 pm edt 

To: Erik Yingling

I'll ask again, what is Eric Yingling's plan to fund retiree's
benefits? Eric, please respond.
12:19 pm edt 

Look Out Provincetown!

Two hardworking, long standing members of the finance committee resign. One
becomes a selectman.

How committed are the remaining members to continue recommending the funding to
maintain our buildings and build what we need?

The Town moderator will appoint new committee members. She has publicly said
that she wants to hold off voting on new buildings until the spring town meeting
when there is no need to do so

Why keep people working in wretched conditions? Perhaps people who want to post
pone this should use a port-a-potty all year and see what that is like.

If it is ok for our workers to have to step into that encased open sewer to use
a port-a-potty for twelve years-why not for you? And with no sink to wash your
hands? I think that it a crime against human decency.
12:15 pm edt 

Re: Police Force Regionalization

Over the years there has been some really idiotic proposals on this site, but
this one takes the cake. Provincetown Police headquartered in Truro, why not
total anarchy. What is the response time now, with the station in Provincetown?
Duh, well the traffic was bad. This idea had to originate from "Little
Provincetown". If this is a another joke, it is a bad one and the people lying
in the street won't be laughing.
12:13 pm edt 

Facebook for Your Votes, Erik?

Why not make your facebook page an open door to all of the issues facing the
selectmen?

You talk about transparency--why not state all that is being accomplished by the
town government? All of the monies received and the list of projects?

I thought that we had a board of Selectmen--not a reigning King. You humbly
accept the crown from we, the little people, such nobless oblige, King Eric.
12:10 pm edt 

The Absence of Forethought

Re:
"No mowing at cemetery.
Let the weeds and grass grow and show your complete disrespect for those no
longer with us."


An example of another well thought out position by the town's voters.  (please
note heavy sarcasm)


12:08 pm edt 

What a Great Idea - Selectmen's Facebook

What a great idea. The selectmen having a facebook page. This way, all of the
information about projects can be posted. No one can say that they didn't know
about such and such a project.

This will be just in time for the police station DPW building committee. Great
idea Eric--CONGRATULATIONS!!
12:05 pm edt 

Stop Salary Increases

Yingling stated: "Stop with the outrageous salary increases
(TM/PC)..."


Yes, I'd have a long face at Town Hall...

Nevertheless, I agree with Erik.   Right now, the TM has been requesting double
digit percentage increases in one single fiscal year to the top administration.

Yes, I'd have a long face at Town Hall...
12:03 pm edt 

Yingling v Incumbent

"Re: The voters didn't vote Yingling in as much as they voted Bedard
out. By comparison, what else have the voters been disgusted by? . . ."


I agree and disagree.  It wasn't voting Yingling in as much as it was voting the
incumbent out.  And any incumbent running would have the same issues.

This town has a lot of delayed maintenance that is needed and is going to have
to be paid for in some manner.  Voters know this, but complain about having to
pay for it.  Yingling was on the FinCom, he knows or should know  there is no
pot of money at the end of the rainbow.  But in politics it works to blame the
incumbent for spending too much while the challenger does not have to say how
he/she proposed to pay for it.

Now Yingling is a selectman.  How is he going to pay to have the streets paved,
pay for the liability for employee benefits, pay for a police station, pay for
his new tourism ambassadors, pay for a city planner, pay for affordable housing,
etc., etc.  Unfortunately the reality is that anything added to the budget and
isn't already there will be added to taxes.  As a candidate he didn't have to
offer solutions, now he's going to be required to do so.
12:00 pm edt 

Re: Today I Received a Ticket

I just want to agree with the commenters on this one.

If you don't want to get another ticket, stop speeding. Speeding laws exist for
a reason. We don't need another pedestrian to be hit and killed this summer
because of another reckless driver. You should follow the common sense law
instead of lashing out at the officer who enforced it. You don't get special
speeding privileges because you've lived in a town for a certain number of
years. (Do you realize how illogical that is?)
11:56 am edt 

BOS Re-elections

Next year there will be 2 seats on the
BOS up for election. Knight & Santos.
I wonder if any one of them will
seek re-election?
Time will tell
11:54 am edt 

Re: DPW Override

Why,why,why,why Part of the DPW vehicle request was for two
tractor/mowers for mowing the cemetery.  The old tractor can't be repaired ,
town voters are so stupid and any one that thanks that these guys don't work
well your wrong, i see them all the time. If you can do there job go ahead, if
you can't i would shut my mouth, as a voter.
11:51 am edt 

Red Inn Opening Party

Awesome party at the red inn this evening.. Thanks guys!
11:48 am edt 

DPW Overide Failure

Re:  "the voters have said they wont permit bying" a new tractor/mower

This is not what I and most voters said with our vote.
The message we are sending to the Town Manager, the Board of Selectmen and the
Finance Committee is, find other ways to pay for these needs.  Stop with the
outrageous salary increases (i.e. Town manager/Police Chief, etc.), end some of
the crazy decisions like having a recreation department
for so few children at such a large facility, etc.  Make prudent financial
decisions so that we will be able to pay for all of our needs without overides.
11:46 am edt 

Getting the Word Out

So many projects are in the pipeline. So much work is being done but it isn't
being publicized. The police station and DPW building is an example. Four
architects were interviewed. All of the available *Town Owned* sites were
considered.

People don't even know the facts of the projects or that millions of dollars in
grants have given to the town for so much work that is being done here.

Ted Malone has been building affordable housing for over 12 years. We have the
affordable housing on Shank painter Rd and it will be built on Race Point Rd.

Eric says to build more--but we are built out! He also says it is a shame that
the high school is closing. We have about a dozen high school seniors. How many
are in the French Class or the latin class? Two?

So we pay all of these teacher's salaries and benefits and retirement all to
teach 12 or so students? Keith Bergman said years ago that we need to close the
school.

Eric wants to hire more town employees. I can't see him spending hours each week
reading all of the information to understand all of the issues And the
unintended consequences of a vote.

His statements bear this out. Of course this posting of mine won't be
published--at least it wasn't before the election.

Sadly, time will tell. I just hope sincerely that I'm wrong--but I doubt that I
am about him.
11:44 am edt 

Re: Tsunami Approaching?

"Why would Austin be next?  Not John Santos?  Why not Santos"


Santos remained neutral in Yingling v Bedard.

Knight endorsed Bedard.  Knight is up next so he is the focus of the
speculation.


11:40 am edt 

Wednesday, May 2, 2012

Tsunami Approaching?

"this will be very interesting, the tides change in our harbor every
day and now a tsunami is approaching in Town Hall, be careful Austin you may be
next!"


Curious - Why would Austin be next?  Not John Santos?  Why not Santos - because
he's lived here longer, because he's straight?


7:13 pm edt 

Re: DPW Override Failure

Re: "This is not what I and most voters said with our vote."


That's bull crap.  Every override passed cept DPW equipment so no message was
sent other than you don't like DPW.  And by saying no you have made it so the
cemetery will not be mowed this summer.

Let the weeds and grass grow and show your complete disrespect for those no
longer with us.
7:10 pm edt 

DPW Overide Failure

Re:  "the voters have said they wont permit bying a new tractor/mower"


This is not what I and most voters said with our vote.
The message we are sending to the Town Manager, the Board of Selectmen and the
Finance Committee is, find other ways to pay for these needs.  Stop with the
outrageous salary increases (i.e. Town manager/Police Chief, etc.), end some of
the crazy decisions like having a recreation department
for so few children at such a large facility, etc.  Make prudent financial
decisions so that we will be able to pay for all of our needs without overides.
6:45 pm edt 

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Selectman-Erik-Y...
Erik Yingling4:30pm May 2
Selectman Erik Yingling
welcome to my facebook page. I hope this will a valuable resource for you to learn more about local ...
6:43 pm edt 

Police Force Regionalization

We should regionalize the police departments of Wellfleet, Truro and
Provincetown.  The money spent on redundant equipment and overstaffing would
save us millions of dollars.  The police could share the Truro station.
6:40 pm edt 

To: "Never Been Given a Ticket"

Oh boo-hoo. The fact that you mention you've never been given a ticket,
indicates to me that maybe you SHOULD have. Whatever, I'm with the other poster.
Buck up and stop complaining. And SO WHAT if you've been living here since 1980,
doesn't give you a special pass.
6:38 pm edt 

Erik Yingling

Re: "As your selectman, my door is always open and I will look to you
for advice and your feedback."



As a candidate you blocked a number of people from viewing any postings on
facebook.  Will you continue to block those who may have questions or don't
agree with your position on an issue?


6:35 pm edt 

FinComm

Does anyone know what the heck happened?  Ann McGuire, Tom Coen and of course
Yingling now leaves it pretty decimated.

Inquiring minds.
6:33 pm edt 

Lets Wake up Here!!

Read between the line folks. I don't think this was any kind of a victory so
much for Yingling as it was a message to the selectmen that the voters have had
it with the status quo. The voters didn't vote Yingling in as much as they voted
Bedard out. By comparison, what else have the voters been disgusted by? Could it
be the DPW, proof of which is the lack of support for new equipment while
everything else passed? the voters have finally decided enough is enough and
have found out also that their votes matter.
6:32 pm edt 

Sign Removal
Keep @[100000774230730:2048:Provincetown...
Tom Donegan1:16pm May 2
Keep Provincetown Massachusetts beautiful. Reminder we are meant to remove political yard signs no later than 10 days after the election.
6:30 pm edt 

Re: Yesterdays Kodak Moment

"David Bedatd , Tom Coen and  Austin Knight standing in the  pouring rain holding
Bedatd signs at the Bass Relief."



So now we've turned to mocking?  Clarence you really are classless.


5:28 pm edt 

Austin Knight

Austin Knight had best become focused on working for a better Provincetown and
do so in a hurry. I hope he becomes chairman so because as Chairman Knight, he
would be fully accountable when he is up for re-election.

I know Erik Yingling will keep us up do date on which selectmen vote with him on
important issues.
5:24 pm edt 

Yesterdays Kodak Moment

David Bedatd , Tom Coen and  Austin Knight standing in the  pouring rain holding
Bedatd signs at the Bass Relief.

10:59 am edt 

Erik Yingling

Yingling - Great campaigner, probably going to be a lousy selectman. 
He's not going to have the answers to issues  he blamed on Bedard.  How's he
going to pay for anything?  His only alternative is 2 1/2 override.

Dear Police Union,  Go ahead and bring your lawsuit now against Provincetown
working conditions.  The 'brains' in town are going to try to delay it as long
as they can, just like with all the other buildings.


10:58 am edt 

A New Era Begins

Now the tough part starts.  Let's hope he can deliver on platform promises of
more jobs, affordable housing and increased tourism.   A tall order to fill that
will require influencing colleagues and constituents, and countless volunteer
hours.  I'm keeping an open mind, but I will be holding him accountable to
deliver on his promises, which will require brains without emotion to be
successful.
10:56 am edt 

Re: Today I Received a Ticket

To the person who got the ticket in Provincetown:

Just because you have been here since 1980, that doesn't entitle you to a 'get
out of jail free card'. Grow up, pay your fine and shut up, like the rest of us.
P.S. I've lived here since 1974, and I've paid every single ticket I ever got!
10:47 am edt 

Knows All the Answers

Eric ignores all of the hard work that went into looking at all of the possible
sites for the new police station and DPW building and says add sprinklers to the
old building and move the evidence room. What kind of nonsense is that?

The law states what a police station must have and Eric just disregards it
because he doesn't like what the law states.

How do you reason with someone like that?

Provincetown is the number one employer in town and he wants to add town
tourists ambassadors to the roster--adding to our tax bill. He doesn't think
things through.

I hope that he has an open mind and spends hours each week doing the pre meeting
work and doesn't have his responses fed to him by his backers.
10:44 am edt 

Board of Selectmen

I am totally looking forward to the reorganization for the BOS, will Elaine
still be Chair? Will the longest serving member Austin Knight be denied again a
senior post? Will there be intrigue like last years debacle only those 5 will
know? I wonder what Ann or Tom Coen would advise? Mary Jo is back and watch and
see what apppointments she is going to make to shake up the FINCOM, this will be
very interesting, the tides change in our harbor every day and now a tsunami is
approaching in Town Hall, be careful Austin you may be next!
10:42 am edt 

Re: Today I Was Given a Ticket

PROFESSIONAL POLICE AT WORK

For far too long people have gotten away with poor driving habits in town. A
woman ran the stop sign at Howland and commercial yesterday right in front of
me!

I can't make a turn onto Bradford street because cars travel to fast. We need
the police to crack down on poor drivers even in February!

Take a driver's ed course and see what you are doing wrong. It must be what you
deserve.
10:39 am edt 

DPW Override Failure

Re: The DPW needs vehicles and they are being denied once again. How
short sighted.


It will be interesting to see how people react when the weeds and grass grow out
of control in the cemetery.  Part of the DPW vehicle request was for two
tractor/mowers for mowing the cemetery.  The old tractor can't be repaired and
voters have said they won't permit buying a new one.  The cemetery lawns will
not get mowed this year.

Every time you drive by the cemetery this summer and see the long grass and
weeds you can think back to your short sighted vote.
10:36 am edt 

Erik Yingling - Provincetown Selectman
Congratulations. You worked so hard. And...
Mary-Jo Avellar8:14am May 2
Congratulations. You worked so hard. And thanks for getting up and getting sworn in EARLY. Now you can rest for a day before the real work begins. Great job.
10:33 am edt 

Erik Yingling

"Eric wants to build more affordable housing as though he doesn't see
what has already been accomplished and that Ted Malone has been building affordable
housing for over a decade."


By your statement, you're indicating that Mr. Yingling acknowledges that
affordable housing has been built.  Or does the term  you used "MORE" as in
"more affordable housing" have another meaning.

Come on, the election is over.  Get up, dust yourself off, and let's all our
energies towards doing positive things for our community.


10:30 am edt 

The People of Provincetown Have Spoken

Congratulations to Mr. Yingling. The election is over. It's now the time to come together
as one to make this little village by the sea that we all love so much an even better
community for ALL.
7:47 am edt 

King Erik

Made me laugh that the business man had to remind Eric to be humble. Eric is
going to behave as though he knows all of the answers.

Eric doesn't do his homework--he just reacts. He doesn't care about the facts.
We have 13 or so high school students and he says that it is a shame that the
high school is closing.

Our former Town Manger was the one who said that the school should be
closed--and that was years ago!

Eric wants to build more affordable housing as though he doesn't see what has
already been accomplished and that Ted Malone has been building affordable
housing for over a decade.


7:31 am edt 

Town Hall - Long Faces?

I would imagine there will be lots of long faces round town hall today
- they have to work with him.
7:29 am edt 

DPW Workers Unappreciated

How sad. The DPW needs vehicles and they are being denied once again. How short
sighted. How demoralizing. Do you really think that they would put this on the
ballot if they didn't need it?

What short sighted voters. This is a shame.
7:27 am edt 

Erik Yingling
 
Congratulations, Erik! Anyone know the vote count?
7:26 am edt 

Today I Received a Ticket

I have lived here since 1980. I have never been given a ticket by a
policeman. Today I received a ticket. This is not the Town of Truro with it's
speed traps. Either the current police chief changes his ways or I will actively
lobby for a new chief when his contract comes up for renewel.
7:24 am edt 

Election Results
Results can be found on...
Irene Rabinowitz9:27pm May 1
Results can be found on www.provincetonw-ma.gov, but here's the results 668 for Erik and 409 for David....great turnout, great job, Erik Yingling!
1:42 am edt 

Election

The voters have spoken and the vote was overwhelming, congratulations to all
that came out to vote, I loved speaking with the young girl who bagged my
groceries at the Stop & shop today who proudly told me that she voted for the
first time! Erik you did well and I wish you the best, be humble, listen and I
wish you the best, we should also thank those who did not win for their time and
effort and service to the community. The new fresh faces and numbers who came
out to vote in this weather is a testament to someone they believed in and
supported!!

A local business man who supports Erik!!
1:37 am edt 

So Glad, So Happy! You Did Win!

I am so glad and so thankful that you won.

All my best to all the opportunities that will come your way. Good news that
you. Erik Yingling you have won.
1:04 am edt 

Congratuations to Erik Yingling Our New Selectman!

Good news and all our best to Erik. you haave won and victory is so sweet.
But this is the time to wish you the best and to say: Congratulations. you have
won. And victory remains sweet.

Bravo to you and to all who voted for you!
1:02 am edt 

Erik Yingling
GREAT JOB EVERYONE. We DID IT! Congrat Erik....
Tom Donegan10:49pm May 1
GREAT JOB EVERYONE. We DID IT! Congrat Erik. We'll miss you on FinCom.
12:59 am edt 

Tuesday, May 1, 2012

Erik Yingling
We did it! Thank you everyone!
Erik Yingling9:25pm May 1
We did it! Thank you everyone!
11:41 pm edt 

Vote for Erik!

I too have been censored here on occasion and a few times not printed
at all but I don't get mad. Clarence can suporrt  a candidate on his own blog
unless a contract  says it unethical in which case he wouldn't do it.

Because some opposition think it's unethical doesn't make it so.  Governments
have been and always will be playing games to further ambitions with taxpayers
money.

Thank God for people like Clarence and others who are our watchdogs to slow it
down.Erik isn't going along to get along!  He's his own person and not afraid to
stand up for his beliefs and concerns for better gov't.
 
He didn't move here with a  lot of money. He grew up here and represents the
true working class that know what it's like to work three jobs to survive. Bd. of S.
mtgs should be at 7P.M. so working class can attend..
5:17 pm edt 

Vote


932 ,Votes so far....goooood news,
Let's see if we can add 200 more to the polls?

5:11 pm edt 

Okay, so if all 750 members of this group...
Irene Rabinowitz1:00pm May 1
Okay, so if all 750 members of this group (excluding the out of towners who signed up because they like Erik) vote, Erik will surely win. So-o-o get out there and vote!!! Parking next to Town Hall designated for voters
5:08 pm edt 

FinComm


To all the hysterical inquiries, not to worry, FINCOM will be just fine without
Mr. Coen and Ms. Ann, please commend them on their time and sacrifice for being
diligent and volunteering for the FINCOM. THere is a new moderator who will
appoint her own members, it is called change and we are in need of it in this
town.

No more direct connections from the West End cabal to the TM office and
back, Tom D and Mike C are bright and articulate, you may or may not agree with
their votes past or moving into the future we shall see. But new fresh faces in
leadership positions is needed throughout this community. I love seeing all the
"young" faces of people holding signs this year.
11:25 am edt 

Vote
Get out and vote! Turn out is low. I need your...
Erik Yingling8:41am May 1
Get out and vote! Turn out is low. I need your vote. 487-2222 for a free ride. Please share.
11:21 am edt 

Vote!

Not only is the selectman's seat
important , there are seven 2 1/2
Props on the ballot.
Vote!
7:58 am edt 

Property Tax Overrides

Vote no on property tax overrides!
7:56 am edt 


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