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DEK: A letter from Provincetown


“L’Affaire Sal’s Place: Money and Meanness in the New Ptown."


By Peter Manso


The first thing you notice when you walk into the resurrected Sal’s Place, in the heart of Provincetown’s West End, is the hustle and bustle of a hot restaurant: the place is packed, the noise level is high, and the servers scoot nonstop to and from the close-set tables. There’s a museum-quality Hawthorne and other class art on the walls, but the place still has a fish shack feel, with exposed rafters and the rhythmic slop of the bay against the pilings on which the waterfront building partially sits. And the food—the Brodetto or Zuppa di Pesce that one Facebook blogger raves about as “so wonderful that Marcella [Hazen] herself would flip,”—well, let me tell you, the Zuppa is so sweet, so transporting in its plummy, tomato-y tannic richness as to have made Sal’s the vacation spot’s dining destination of choice near overnight.

All this was pretty much the word around town last summer when the fifty-four year old Sal’s Place reopened under new management. But the food wasn’t the only things people were talking about. There were also whispers that the owner—a single, self-described blue-collar woman who’d originally arrived in Boston from Tipperary at age 17—was at war with her neighbors—four wealthy men, all gay, who had recently bought the abutting properties for summer party pads, and wanted the place dead and shuttered. In fact, depending on who you knew, you might have heard about bouts of property destruction, interminable delays for the restaurant’s opening, and armies of lawyers getting rich on both sides.


As the not-so-secret knock-down-drag-out tumbled into public view, eating there became an almost political act. Now, after simmering all winter, locals in P-Town are waiting for the hostilities to start afresh.


One resident called the quarrel the “worst case of bullying” he’d come across in his 50 years in town. But you could just as well call the fight over Sal’s place a sort of battle for Provincetown’s soul in miniature—a David and Goliath story about whether the artists, fishermen, and non-mainstream types of all persuasions were still welcome in the new Ptown. Or is this haven at the end of the Cape destined to become an exclusive enclave for the rich gay elite?



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Friday, October 1, 2010

Re: Wrong Decision

BOS Does Not Have the Legal Right to Issues Beer &
Wine Licenses

That purview belongs only the the Licensing Board. It does not belong to the
BOS. If the Licensing Board decides to allow this, that is their decision and
theirs alone.

If someone wants to rent Town Hall, then let them get the spe cial permit from
the Licensing Board. That is what everyone else does that is not a restaurant or
package store. The town is not exempt from town and state rules. And yet the
town always wants to act as if they are above these rules. They are not and the
BOS do not have this power. It does NOT belong to them but to the Licensing
Board alone.
12:32 am edt 

Re: Poor Thinking Once Again

Poor thinking is blowing out a rant without having the information.

The town will not be selling liquor at town hall.  All the BOS did was to allow
caterers with pouring licenses to serve beer and wine at the discretion of the
town manager and the BOS.

This will make the space much more attractive as a rental.  It is without doubt
the largest venue in town and now it is also the most beautiful.  Local
fundraising events will now have the opportunity to serve hors' dorves and wine. 
It is also the perfect location for a large indoor destination wedding.

They've also made it easier to rent by having the town hall itself hold its own
entertainment license so that renters no longer have to go before zoning and the
time consuming  process of abutter's notices.

And no matter what Rick Murray says, the space does not compete with local
businesses.  Whoever rents the space is looking to seat 700 for a show or
possibly 300 for a catered meal.  No other space in town can do that including
the Crown and Anchor.

All Rick Murray wants to do and ever wanted to do is stifle competition.
12:25 am edt 

Re: Dog Park

I think the Bark Park is great but it is the most under used piece of
real estate in town.
12:23 am edt 

Thursday, September 30, 2010

Re: Beer and Wine at Town Hall

I think its great that Town Hall will sell beer and wine at events.
The business owner who is so upset about it should perhaps work on his
establishment. I would much rather see a show in a beautiful renovated town hall
than in the "big room", too cheap to turn on the A/C, overcrowded ugly space he
9:46 pm edt 

Re: Suzanne's Garden

The idea of planting trees or doing anything to maintain Suzanne's
garden is not the town's issue. I was at town meeting... the land is for any
volunter to enjoy and deal with. There was never a plan  presented that
obligated town to use a cent of tax money to maintain. The presentation was
clear that those enjoying it would voluntarily invest in the up-keep not the
rest of us that helped with the $250,000 to make the purchase.
9:44 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall Should Not Be in the Business of Selling Beer and Wine

Once again, ignorance is shown by those who choose to complain about things
taking place in this town.  If you would actually read the article in the
banner, the town is not selling beer and wine.  How ludicrous is that.

The town has given permission to those renting the auditorium that have a
caterer who has an alcohol service permit to serve these beverages.  It
specifically indicates that it must be done through a caterer, which would not
generally permit someone holding a dance or performance.

And to those business that complain that it will hurt them, it is a part of life
that you have to compete to earn business.  This isn't a monopoly.  This simply
gives someone a different venue to consider who may not want a dance club as the
setting for their event.  The town has every right to try and make a profit.

Next time, don't just read the article, make sure you understand it before you
post complaints about it.
9:43 pm edt 

Thank You Ms Nagle

The Pier Corporation thank God has to now meet quaterly with the
Finance Committee. They are now on the town's Munis system too. Fiscal
accountibility is what Ms. Nagle spearheaded and we thank her for that too!
9:40 pm edt 

CootHer, Bed Bugs and Frogs

The town has gone to the dogs! Oh, yes, and we gain an award for doing exactly
that!Bow Wow!
9:39 pm edt 

Re: "name"

Agree completely, this blog is the last refuge for some who are bitter over
their own failure in life and lack of participation in what they perceive as the
power structure in town. They failed in every business they ran, they lost
lawsuits and now either don't work or are waitresses and they are abetted by
similar folks who drive broken down luxury cars and wish they were part of
decisionmaking but don't see that their own personalities and tactics prevent
this not some perceived consipiracy. Through their selective censorship they
eliminate criticism on here and present a warped and bitter view of life.
9:38 pm edt 

Town Hall Should Not Be in the Business of Selling Beer and Wine

That is the last thing we need. If someone rents town hall, then let them get
the special license and also the responsibility of selling liquor. This is
outrageious and foolish. Town Hall should not compete with other town businesses
and we should not bear the liability. I also don't believe that the BOS has the
right to make that decision. It is a Licensing Board decision and not the BOS.

Poor thinking once again.
11:34 am edt 

Re: Dog Park

I agree. Instead of the blogger saying something like 'great job to
all involved getting the dog town and dog park awards,' we have a sad
self-loathing sack, taking bitter swipes at those involved. How sorry I feel for

But I will say it: To all those involved in their community service advancing
the welfare of animals in Ptown that have culminated in these great awards and
press for Ptown, thank you!

11:32 am edt 

Re: Suzanne's Garden -

Wow such anger! I wrote the post not Johnny?
Who is Johnny? My name is PJ and since we've already purchase the land, let's
make the most of it. Oh it is so easy to get behind your keyboard and complain,
instead of coming up with creative ideas to deal with issues that are bothering

Plant lots of trees and bring back the natural beauty to the piece of
property... yes that's what I wrote and I stand by it.

Have a nice day! PJ
11:31 am edt 

Re: Dog Park

Don't complain about all the posts patting herself for the "most
beautiful dog park in America."  At least she isn't harping about the Pier
11:29 am edt 

Re: Suzanne's Garden

So Ms. Gandolfo (sp) speaks at the BOS meeting and thinks it's OK to
keep the Land Bank because it's OK to soak the 2nd homeowners and they obviously
can afford it.  Tell me how Suzanne's Garden benefited the town Ms. Gandolfo.

Once the Land Bank stepped in to purchase Suzanne's Garden they lost their
credibility.  Still wonder what went on behind the scenes on that one...
11:28 am edt 

Couture's Name

So someone mispronounced her name.  Like that doesn't happen to most of us.  But
when you take that and run with is just showing your immaturity.  Grow up!  It's
time you left middle school bullying behavior behind.  Or is that all you have
to offer?
11:26 am edt 

Wednesday, September 29, 2010

Re: Bedbugs in Ptown

To who doubts that there are Bedbugs in Ptown.
You didn't search tripadvisor enough. There is no article about them. You will
find mention of bedbugs in individual reviews of 2 Provincetown guesthouses. I'm
not going to mention their names. My purpose was not to hurt anyone's business.
I sure they know who they are and have hopefully taken steps to eradicate them.
My purpose was to bring their presence in our town out into the open so people
will be vigilant and hopefully nip this in the bud. Bedbugs are no joke and are
very difficult to get rid of yet easy to spread. Like
7:04 pm edt 

Check Your Spelling:

CootHer is How It is Spelled

and it is not derogatory. That is the pronounciation by some of Michelle
Couture's name. CootHer it is.

Spent too much time in the frog pond to see this as derogatory. Her behavior is
derogatory but not the pronounication of her sad name.
7:02 pm edt 

Re: Dog Park

Take Responsibility! The dog park and town win awards and what do yiu
do? Use it as an opportunity to call our dog park 'lame.' No you are the one
bitter and angry. We hope you get the help you need!
7:00 pm edt 

Re: "Bedbugs in Ptown!

Check out the reviews on tripadvisor and then
go check your mattresses!" There is nothing on tripadvisor regarding bedbugs in
Provincetown. Must be a guesthouse hater. Bed bugs are something to look for
when traveling anywhere!
11:36 am edt 

Long Winter

From the trivial issues blogged on this sight all I can say is "It's going to be
a long winter" Enjoy!
10:41 am edt 

Plant Trees For a Nice Wooded Park??

This really takes the cake; who wrote this? Polly Anna? Or was this little Johnny writing to support himself? Maybe he needs more $$$ from the town ("Plant more trees or I will turn it into
a Parking Lot!")Suzannes Garden has never had anyone sitting in it; at least not any of the
10,000 times I walked by it this summer... this purchase is simply the stupidest
thing ever done by the town... I used to have grudging respect for Little
Johnny, but now I cannot even stand to look at him... what a self serving     
10:40 am edt 

Re: Connections

Fact:  2 are presented as 1 for approvals
Fact:  1 is then presented as 2 for sale and profit

Quite the game, says it all
10:34 am edt 

To: Webmaster

Thanks for taking down the post. My "wet brained idiot", rant was due to that
10:31 am edt 

Re: Dog Park

Wow. These dog park people are an angry, mean bunch. Or maybe their
shift keys got stuck so they're forced to type in all caps (the online
equivalent of yelling.)
10:30 am edt 

Where's Waldo, But More Importantly

10:29 am edt 

Cooter is NOT a Derogatory Word For a Woman's Genatalia!

This person sounds like a misogynist.  "Women have taken over and have imposed
laws and fees..."  So much for Ptown being "No Place for Hate."  Perhaps you
should find somewhere else to live, since you sound like you are so unhappy with
it here, and it's no longer "a safe haven for gay men."  And btw, 'cooter' is a
derogatory word, you just aren't aware of it or much of anything else.
10:27 am edt 

Mr. Dubious Know it All For Everyone...

You still haven't answered what you have done for the community.  No matter how many caps you used, you left that part out.  I guess that says it all (in small letters) nothing
10:26 am edt 

Re: "Seems These Ad HOC Committees Do Raise Questions"

It must be a sad litte life you lead seeing consipiracies at every turn and
thinking that any group trying to do hard, thankless work is out to just get
their way. You are either not very smart or don't listen well. The ad hoc
committee is not changing any by laws. They make recommendations to the Planning
folks. Their work is directed by David Gardner and Maxine Notaro sits in on
every meeting. All of the committee members are residents of the community, did
their grandfather's reside here, probably not which probably disqualifies the
whole lot of them in your eyes.

The committee then makes recommendations to Planning which does the actual
adoption of the draft language which then goes to voters. They don't address
what "THEY" want to address. They address major problematic sections of the by
law that need updating using their experience in building, zoning, planning,

Contrary to the falsehood promoted on here the new DRAFT revision to the
multiple structures now says "For the purpose of this bylaw, buildings are
considered separate unless they are connected by a minimum one-story structure
that meets the definition of Building in Article 1." Sounds like a lot more than
a stick to me. Oh by the way I believe the owner of this blog was happy with
that language, or at least he said he was at the meeting.

Why do we need an Ad Hoc committee at all? Probably since the needed changes
were not happening any other way and major issues including demolition and one v
two structures had arisen that needed to be addressed. Planning has its hands
full with normal planning activity.

Folks on here like to denigrate the work of people who serve on these committees
and attack the conclusions but can't be bothered to volunteer for any committee
or go to meetings. A sad lot these folks are and this will terminate my posts on
the subject because some can't be bothered with the truth or facts, it might
shake up their sorry negative world view.

Finally, you have multiple chances to comment on any of the changes both at a
mid October planning meeting and at town meeting.
10:17 am edt 

Tuesday, September 28, 2010

Re: Connections

Why does such a small town with a paid town staff and town boards need
adhoc committees at all?  2 = 1 is the perfect example.  With adhoc committees
and planning boards and they still have to "interpret" a bylaw.  Who ultimately
benefits from these "interpretations".  In cases of new construction, one recent
prefab development comes to mind.  Are they allowed in the best interest of the
town, the neighborhood, the dune and natural environment, the yearround
population needing affordable housing, the dogs or solely the developer?  1 = 2
means twice as much profit.  Conspiracy, no.  But it does make one wonder about
1:15 pm edt 

Provincetown Cats vs Dogs

Yes, I do think there are more cats than dogs in Ptown too.
Although there are no statistics available since cats are not required to be

The Provinceown Dog Park and CASAS  work together which includes getting the Pet
Emergency Shelter at the VMES. During Katrina, 44% of people who did not seek
shelter didn't because they didn't want to leave their companion animals behind.
Many people died from that choice. First responders were also put at risk trying
to get them to evacuate their homes for safe shelter.

FYI, both received a whopping $2500 each by Dog Fancy Magazine!

It has been a great collaboration between the two organizations and the
Provincetown Animal Welfare Committee, the town board. Those three boards have
been highly effective which has had many, many benefits to humans as well!

12:51 pm edt 

To the Anti-Provincetown Dog Park Poster

Have you heard of the Cape Cod Times? Check out page 3 in today's and yesterday
papers. There are economic benefits of having a dog park in a tourist based

Dog parks are for people too. I enjoy our dog's park just as much as my dog.
There is as much human socialization there as there is for dogs. I have met some
wonderful people there.

'Lame dog park?' No, you are the one that is LAME!
12:47 pm edt 

Seems These Ad HOc Committees Do Raise Questions

Why do we need them? You have the Planning Board and Planning Board members. It
is their job to rework the by-laws that they think need changing. It is not the
job of an ad hoc group to work together to change the laws THEY want changed.
WRong approach. Do you wonder some people question the motives of this group?
Any long-term town re sidents sitting on this ad hoc committee? Anyone who
supports more open space and less desnity sitting on this ad hoc group?

Just wondering.
10:53 am edt 

Bedbugs in Ptown!

Check out the reviews on tripadvisor and then go check your mattresses!
10:51 am edt 

Dogs! Dogs! Dogs!
I bet there are more CATS in  Provincetown than dogs. Where is the love for our
feline friends?
10:50 am edt 

Re: "Clarence is a Senile Wet Brained Idiot"

I beg to differ. I find him to be charming, smart, appealing and a fine
individual who sees both sides of an issue. And, no, I'm not his wife or a
relative. I'm merely a person who knows him and respects his brain--whether you
think it's wet or not.

10:49 am edt 

Ad-Hoc Committee Propaganda

So if everything was so above board and transparent and fair, and no developer
influenced any of the rules (as you say), how on earth did we end up with that
idiotic rule that two buildings, if connected by a stick, is counted as one

The only advantage of that rule was to line the pockets of developers.  It
certainly did nothing to help this town.

Such a rule would never have made it through the process IF things were so sweet
and clear as you say!  But nice try at propaganda.
10:47 am edt 

Re: Dog Park

I am the person who posted previously about the dubious achievements
of Candace and the dog people. DUBIOUS?  WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY TO YOU?
Yes, I did say that most people have never heard
that gave an award to the dog park. And I stand by that

I did not, however, refer to anybody as an "idiot" like you have done. BUT YOU

Maybe people with attitudes like yours NOW THATS A LEAP. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO
PARK. WOW, I MUST BE POWERFUL TOO! are the reason so many in town don't care
for the dog park and it's supporters.

But I guess you aren't interested in how people feel, just dogs. DONT TELL ME

10:45 am edt 

Re: Dog Park

I am disabled with MS and the bark park has helped me get my dog
excerise.   I have seen many older people there too.

Thank you to all who have made the dog park possible including Ms. Nagle.
10:43 am edt 

Re: Board of Health Chair

"How strange to see this guest house owner chair this board. What
qualifications does he have?"

If you are more qualified did you apply?
10:42 am edt 

Dog Park

 We may have  the best dogpark, but we certainly don't have a park for
people. This town needs a nice people park, a little something for our tourist
to enjoy.

I love animals, I have a dog, and a cat.
10:40 am edt 

Re: Dog Park and Dubious Achievements

Dubious achievements? LOL from the dog-HUMAN water fountain.

How come you don t tell us about your community service?

Candace gets things she thinks will help the community done at lightening speed!

We can't see you in the shadow she casts as you are a cipher.  

10:39 am edt 

Dog Park and Dubious Achievements

Just because you never heard of Dog Fancy magazine totally underlines
how little you have to say.  I guess you never heard of the LA Times either.  Of
course you have taken on the attitude that you speak for so many people of
Provincetown.  You speak for nobody but yourself.  I am still waiting to hear
what you have done lately for the community.  I see nothing but a blank.  Serve
on any town boards?  The VSB?  The PBG committees and boards?  The Soup
Kithchen?  Raise money for Swim for Life?   Serve on the Chamber?  Do volunteer
work for HOW?  Meals on wheels? Casas?
I bet you couldn't name most of these before I listed them yet alone do
anything.  Before you sit and yap yap over how you and "so many others" that you
have taken the liberty to speak for, examine your own life and involvement
10:01 am edt 

Re: "How Would You Even Look up Their Agendas"

Funny, I typed "town of provincetown ad hoc bylaw committee" into Google and was
taken directly to several town web pages that were one link away from the
Committee's agendas and minutes, which are posted in a timely manner. Didn't
seem too hard to me so hardly seems a very secret agenda. Perhaps for the poster
this is too difficult?

Perhaps the weekly listings in the public meeting section of the newspaper is
also part of the cover plan to keep this Machiavellian group under cover?
Perhaps Sharon appointed these people because they would actually go to meetings
(well, most of them) and do some work, ever consider that angle?

You can blow and blow but there is no smoke and no fire, just some folks trying
to do their best to help update the bylaws and considering all sides of each
issue and sacrificing a lot of personal time and energy to do so.
9:56 am edt 

Re: "By-Laws and the Revisions Should be Done by the Planning Board".....
....and other related posts

1) By-Law revisions ARE done by the planning board. The Ad Hoc Committee makes
recommendations that the planning board can adopt, reject, or modify. They've
done all three.

2) Having watched the entire process another poster is exactly wrong. The Ad Hoc
Committee struggled with making sure by law revisions are only considered by
town meeting when a lot of people are there to vote. It was a major topic of
discussion throughout the process and at every meeting.

3) The one developer on the Ad Hoc committee contributed materials on roof
design and did not, that I saw, make overt or covert attempt to influence any
discussion of scale, one bulding vs. two, or other matters that might impact his

Perhaps if the posters had attended the meetings, not just one, they would not
post such inaccurate statements. The hard work in this town seems to get done by
those willing to sit on these committees and members of the public willing to
sit through the process. It is discouraging to see those who do neither then use
this forum to slam the work of those who do. But monday morning quaterbacking
from your computer is much easier and doesn't involve any time, energy, brains
or commitment does it?
9:54 am edt 

Dog Park & Dubious Achievements

I am the person who posted previously about the dubious achievements
of Candace and the dog people. Yes, I did say that most people have never heard
of the magazine that gave an award to the dog park. And I stand by that

I did not, however, refer to anybody as an "idiot" like you have done.

Maybe people with attitudes like yours are the reason so many in town don't care
for the dog park and it's supporters.

But I guess you aren't interested in how people feel, just dogs.
12:08 am edt 

Monday, September 27, 2010

What? You are the Idiot!

Enough. Webmaster, please do not post such postings that attack you and the good
work that you do. Please, cast these horrendous postings out. These is
disgusting. No, please, do not post these ramblings.
10:53 pm edt 

You Are a Gross Person

  Who the hell do you think you are? Wash your foul mouth with soap--which I'm
sure you don't have in your poor condo.

Webmaster, you should not even post these slanderous statements against you.
This is beyond what you should do.
10:52 pm edt 

Who is the New chair of Board of Health? Really, Who is He?

How strange to see this guest house owner chair this board. What qualifications
does he have? And what is his agenda? Mumble jumble when he speaks. But he
raises more questions and I see few answers to who he really is.

Isn't he also on the Charter commission? Why?
10:49 pm edt 

How Naive You Are!

You believe that the Ad HOc By-Law Revision Committee only makes
recommendations? They work at getting the By-Law changes they want and they
work, in front and in back, to make sure that their "objective" recommendations
will be "accepted" by the Planning Board. Then they work their little butts off
to make certain that the By-Law changes will be accepted at town meeting. This
means purposefully placing the articles when few people will be there. Guess who
helps them do that? Guess again.
10:48 pm edt 

By-Laws and the Revisions Should be Done by the Planning Board

It is plain and simple. We don't and shouldn't need a specially hand-picked
group--yes mostly developers like Ted Malone--and brokers and friends of
develoeprs--to make up this committee.

Yes, they surely spend much time on changing the by-laws. Why do you think? Yes,
it is to their advantage. They take the time but unlike most others, their
recommendations benefit their future developments.

That is the problem. That they have open meetings and yet most people in town
don't even know that this committee exists--so how would you even look up their
agendas--is quite problematic.

Why did Sharon hand pick these particular people? Why, indeed!
10:47 pm edt 

Some Do, While Others Don't

Why do we do this instead of  that?  Why not stop         ?
There are those in life who make things happen, those who watch what happened
and those that wondered what happened.  It is easy to tell who is who in
10:45 pm edt 


Clarence is a senile wet brained idiot.

10:43 pm edt 

Dogs vs People

Why don't you do something about the homeless instead of telling other
people they should?

Let s hear what community service you perform? We won t hold our breath!
10:41 pm edt 

Thru the Looking Glass

Committee makeup discussions and overbuilding seems to have hit a
nerve.  There are other more important things to worry about like open flags,
cupcakes and dog duty. 

Good luck, you'll need it.
10:40 pm edt 

Re: Former Board of Health Chair

Webmaster take that down pronto please! Unless you know it to be true AND have
her permission to post. Really over the line.

Webmaster Comment: Information regarding the former Health Board Chairman's
reason for resigning was previously presented to MYPACC, although not confirmed. In that
context, it is agreed that the posting should be removed.

However, it should be noted that the poster's point was that the previous political reasons
given for the resignation were inaccurate.
9:37 pm edt 

Re: A Developer on Ad Hoc

I personally don't see that one developer and one realtor serving on a committee
(Ad Hoc Zoning) that only makes recommendations, has other quite a few other
members from other walks of life including lots of zoning and preservation
experience, and whose recommendations go through at least two other levels of
review before voters vote on it, all with public input, are a threat to the
Provincetown way of life, really, find somthing that is really a problem to
worry about.

8:58 pm edt 

CASAS Is Fabulous--Congrutaltions to All

They do remarkable work. I am so grateful that they are here in town. Thank you
Carol. You are wonderful. Thank you all volunteers. We could not have this great
organization without all of you.

Merci. Obrigado. Thank You.
8:57 pm edt 

Suzanne's Garden is Not a Waste of Money.

We can plant more trees and turn it into a mini wooded area with picnic benches, so
that people in the East End have a nice park to enjoy. No $$$ spent on open space is wasted. We need to bring back more of the natural environment in Provincetown.
8:56 pm edt 

Re: Dog Park

I remember the same idiot here trashing the dog town award given by a
magazine he said no one read. Guess that's why the LA Times ran the DogTown
USA-Provincetown article on the front page of the Sunday Times yesterday!

8:54 pm edt 

Re: Suzanne's Garden

Does anyone ever go to Suzanne's garden to sit, stay and enjoy? I
never got it. We have beautiful gardens all over this town. I walk by all of
them and enjoy but I never even think of using them as a public park which is
what Suze's  garden is supposed to be I guess. This was such a stupid thing to
purchase but it certainly benefits the two or three abutting properties
especially the one that sold it to us all. Hey, maybe we can all use it to meet
and party. Wouldn't the neighbors love that! Maybe it will come back to haunt
the town.
8:53 pm edt 

Re: Ad Hoc Committee

If you don't think developers have a say in what zoning or planning or
conservation or health by-laws get in, you are pure of thought (not an attack by
the way so don't get upset).  People of other professions and walks of life are
on all these "committees" true.

Fact:  No other profession than developers makes its profit soley from the
building industry which relies soley on these bylaws for regulation.  Are they
really going to shoot themselves in the foot by leaning toward any discussion of
regulating building in any way that downsizes?  Probably not.
8:51 pm edt 

My Weekly Alden Street Parking Lot Update

Went for my weekly appt at Seashore Point today, "only" had to drive around one
illegally parked car and one illegally parked pickup on Alden Street, along with
6 or 7 folks just hanging out in middle of street --they barely moved over to
let us drive by.  Interestingly a police car was parked in a parking area right
across from them (and the vehicles ) but no one seemed at all fazed or
intimidated.  Perhaps that is the answer to why we don't (as a previous poster
asked) "report it to the authorities".  The cab company seems to get a wink and
a nod from the town.
8:49 pm edt 

Dog Days of Summer?

Yea rite - all I see of the wonderful dogs is the fricken poop all over the
place - on every corner of commercial street - all over my yard and the beaches. 
This doggie thing is so over the top that it is a total embarrassment.  I mean
really - get a life
8:46 pm edt 

I Think the Spelling Was KootHer

That's not bad. It's a way to pronounce the chair's name. Check back on how it
was written. I for one only saw a blogger write it KootHer. The person
complaining is the one who changed the spelling.

Nothing wrong here boys and girls. It's Howdy Doody Time! Nothing more.
8:45 pm edt 

Cup Cake Guy.

Either leave him alone or get the lemonade girl off the
street too.  No equal enforcement in Provincetown... PS I eat the cup cakes but
don't touch the lemonade because it doen't necessarily come from a clean place. 
The cup cake guy has a permit.  My suggestion is he put them in a red wagon and
and pull them down the street.  Then we will see how one can and one can't.
8:44 pm edt 

Lame Dog Park?

#2 in the country is more like it.  I have a
suggestion. You do better or keep your yap yap closed and stay out of it.
8:43 pm edt 

CootHer is Not Derogatory It's Just How Lisa Hughes Said Her Name

CootHer is not negative but odd. But then she is rather odd herself and not a
great leader for this town. She has such poor ideas and little ability to think
right about this town. She is perhaps the least educated BOS member ever. We
still don't even know if she ever graduated from high school. Perhaps not.
8:41 pm edt 

Lame Bark Park?

Our dog park was voted second best dog park in the country!

And no 'lame' blogger can change that distinction!! LOL
8:40 pm edt 

What a Sad Commentary!
There are people in our own town who are homeless and starving.  Why don't we
have a parade for them?  Imagine if we spent the money it took for a dog park
and water fountain to feed and house those less fortunate.  Instead of making a
town most dog friendly....why don't we have a town that is most human friendly. 

There's so much potential here...and we're not utilizing it.  Since when are
pets more important than people? 

Has this town misplaced priorities?  
8:39 pm edt 

Cooter is NOT a Derogatory Word For a Woman's Genatalia!

You made that up.  I am SO sick of the women of this town looking for ways to
manipulate everyone's viewpoint.  Gone are the days when this town was a safe
haven for gay men.  The women have taken it over and have imposed laws and fees
for just about everything...for everyone's "common good".  The women don't
adhere to their own rules...and think they have the right to tell everyone what
to do.   I'm darn sick of it. 

Mind your own business and live and let live. 
8:37 pm edt 

Dog Days of Summer?

Nope, these were the dog days of Autumn and what fine days they were!  Congrats
to CASA for  wonderful PAWS events and CASA and the Dog Park for the DOG TOWN
USA award!
11:46 am edt 

Re: Ad Hoc Committee

Get frosted all you want, public input was given at meetings, written
input was given to committees.  Developers shouldn't participate with town
committees where conflicts of interest could be present and opinions swayed.
Period.  You may not agree, but this blogger brought the topic back to the front
burner for discussion, where it belongs  ... and again, ending with the personal
insults.  Thou dost protest too much. 
9:35 am edt 

Re: "Cooter"

To learn the mysteries of the "cooter" sign up for a course in the new
bro-cabulary and you'll find the blogger is correct, derogatory phrase. 
Personal insults are boring and don't think you are being that anonymous. 
Unless you don't care.  But there aren't any signatures on these insulting
blogs, so you must.
9:10 am edt 

Re: Dog Park

We were voted dog town usa in spite of that lame bark park.
9:08 am edt 

Re: Ad Hoc Bylaw Committee
Getting the facts right:

1) this is the fall assertional originally posted "thanks to your Ad Hoc Bylaw
team made up of developers and their puppets at town hall."

Fact: the committee is made up of members from a variety of roles in town

2) this is a subsequent post that is incorrect " christ sake, the committee that
decides the very bylaws that dictate the amount of money these same developers
will make"

Fact: the ad hoc committee does not "decide" the by laws. The
Committee makes recommendations to the Planning
Committee who then either accepts or rejects, then the item goes to the town
meeting warrant where the voters then decide. At each step, ad hoc committee,
planning board and town meeting any member of the public can provide input or

What frosts me is people who attack the participants and/or the process and post
falsehoods about both but don't bother to attend the MANY public meetings held
on each bylaw suggestion. Instead of using the public process these folks slink
around this blog disparaging proposed changes by dismissing them as developer

If you want to make change go to the meetings, proved written public input, it 
actually works. If you want to be a grumpy, ineffective, conspiracy monger then
by all means keep posting your falsehoods here.
9:07 am edt 

Re: Open Space

Do people have access to a map of all the open spaces that we keep
paying for? What is the point in having them if it is difficult to find out
where they are? Sure the immediate neighbors know but who else? If we are going
to support open space then let's really make these spaces an asset to the entire
community and our guests.
8:57 am edt 

40-B--Vote No!

We pay $57,000 a year for a housing specialist. We have so many un counted
affordable housing units in private homes.
It is time to end this developers give-a-way where they bypass zoning rules and
rush in and build four buildings and call them two.
8:56 am edt 

Re: Statewide Ballot

Vote no on Article 2--affordable housing
Just read the banner and you will see that 40-B is a way for developers to
develop and get rich at the expense of our open land.

The small, tight quarters, are built this way to cram in the units. If the unit
doesn't sell to a low income individual **AFTER 4 MONTHS ON THE MARKET**, it
goes for sale at market rate.

The selectmen are shocked--put people have been posting about this for
8:55 am edt 

Re: Cops

We have an excellent force led by Chief Jaran.  Remember... innocent until
proven guilty.  So... if the cupcake man/boy is innocent this will come to
light.  In so far as the Chief wanting to make the force (more) professional he
should be commended.  Police deserve respect and they should not be taken
lightly as their job is to ensure our safety and even though we aren't in NYC
with guns and deaths surfacing on a daily basis we do have undesirable elements
that come into town and so their guard cannot be let down.  Keeping "it"
professional is the way to go.  RESPECT OUR POLICE! ... That said, leave our
dick dock alone!
8:53 am edt 

Cupcake Repeat Offender

I do have all my facts!  The Cupcake guys is a VIOLATOR. If you didn't know this
HE CERTAINLY DOES!  Him doing the same thing he's been REPEATEDLY asked NOT to
do is no excuse for "giving it away".  Cry wolf so many times that no believes
you.  So... he should have realized that doing the Same act that he was asked
NOT to do so many times previously would likely raise red flags and be an issue. 
If Town Govt was addressed thoroughly and properly on this as well as the Police
Dept I assure you this would not have been an issue.  This cupcake guy has been
on the entire town's radar for months based on his repeated violations so if the
proper channels had been followed then the ticket would not have been issued. 
Has this director ever directed in this town before?  I guess there is a first
time for everything.  HOWEVER, the cupcake guy, as stated above, is a REPEAT
OFFENDER!  This little girl stays on the move vs staying in one location. 
Adults need to act like adults.  Let cupcake man get a shop like everyone else; if he can afford a mercedes then he
can afford to follow the rules like the rest of us. 
8:52 am edt 

Statewide Ballot Issues

William Galvin on Thursday announced the numbers attached to each
ballot question.

    * The alcohol sales tax repeal question will be Question  1,
    * The comprehensive permit law repeal(repeal 40B affordable housing) is
Question 2 and
    * The initiative petition to reduce the sales tax to 3 percent will be
Question 3.

Ok Provincetown, now is your chance to get rid of 40 B and affordable housing.
Get educated on the questions and vote.
8:49 am edt 

Re: Land Bank

"We have so much money now that we can waste $250k on Suzanne's garden."

Good point - that was the worst decision ever.  What a joke.
8:47 am edt 

Sunday, September 26, 2010

Cooter is a Derogatory Term For a Woman's Genitalia?

Well, thank goodness for this blog. I learn something new every day!

According to Wikipedia it is also the name of a town in Missouri, a type of
turtle, the name of a band and an actual surname.

This blog really is a great place to        up a bit of new information : )
8:00 pm edt 

No Slander Was Spoken

Someone commented on the AdHoc Com. and
developers.   Then someone fired back with their fir up, said the blogger was
"attacking" the Committee and ended with a personal insult to the blogger.  Then
someone said the person firing back was the real attacker and an idiot for
throwing in a personal insult.  Now, can the blog get back on track please.  Buy
open space land, new construction moratorium, good plans that need to be done.
7:14 pm edt 

Re: Land Bank

Count me on the side that says we don't need to keep the 3% Land Bank. 
We have the 3% CPA that funds affordable housing, community preservation and
open space.  We have so much money now that we can waste $250k on Suzanne's
garden.  That purchase speaks volumes.
6:44 pm edt 

CootHer is Couture, Michelle

This blogs says to "avoid using profanity or derogatory statements."  'Cooter'
is a derogatory term for a woman's genatalia.  Using 'koother,' 'cooter' or any
form of that is an insult to all women.  Whether you like Ms. Couture or not,
how about expressing yourself in a more dignified fashion and stop resorting to
words that are insulting to all women? 
6:43 pm edt 

Did I Miss the Attack on the Ad Hoc By-Law Committee?

I never read anything on this blog against this group. They are developers and
brokers and that raises some questions but I don't remember reading anything
negative on this group. They do their work but who benefits?  I do believe each
one of these Sharon Lynn-appointed members gain advantages for themselves.

But what did someone say that was so bad? Must have missed this. Or was anything
like this really posted?
6:42 pm edt 

Hey Attacker -

There is no slandering in that blog, only truth.  Why
on earth was a developer allowed to be within 100 feet of a meeting that decides
town by-laws, let alone on the committee.  For christ sake, the committee that
decides the very bylaws that dictate the amount of money these same developers
will make.   Can't town officials figure out whats right and wrong or do they
need input from a developer for that.  Pathetic.   Come on, wake up. Your blog
was over the top and insulting.  Not impressed. 
6:39 pm edt 

Re: Rubber Chicken Law

Um, we already do allow Open flags in the winter time. The new Bylaw would allow
them year round. Are these posts indicative of education in America?
6:37 pm edt 

Front Page of Sunday's Los Angeles Times

Sunday's LA Times features a story of how we have been voted "Dog Town USA" by
Dog Fancy magazine.

The story is available on-line at

"The locale beat out 94 other entries in the annual competition, which evaluates
cities based on the number of dog-friendly open spaces and dog parks, events
celebrating dogs and their owners, available veterinary care and laws that
support pets."

Carmel, California came in second, which is quite an accomplishment.
6:36 pm edt 

Re: Cops

Did you read the artical in the Banner or are you just blowing hot
air??  The producers did do their jobs in talking to the town, it is the police
who can't seem to get the facts to all involved in their department.  Last I
checked I didn't need permission to give anything away for free. If I wanted to
walk down the street handing out homemade brownies, it's my right and I'm not
breaking any laws.  Also on another note does the little girl who sells lemonade
have a permit?? I don't think so but yet she doesn't get tickets.  Everyone
should be treated equally don't pick and choose who gets tickets just because
one is a child and the other is an adult.  Maybe you should know all the facts
before you reply.
6:14 pm edt 

Re: Open Space

I would gladly pay a 5% tax to fund open space. The National Seashore
may not always be the National Seashore. If the federal govt ever changes the
protections status of the Nat'l Seashore and we don't buy any more land,
Provincetown could end up looking like any port city across the USA. Keep buying
open space. Provincetown has become too dense. Open your eyes now, buy any open
space that comes available, put a moratorium on building and pray that the
National Seashore is always protected!
1:42 pm edt 

Re: To the Person Attacking the Ad Hoc Bylaw Committee...

Wow, now that's an attack.  Time to switch
to decaf... and get the facts straight while you're at it.
11:01 am edt 

To the Person Attacking the Ad Hoc Bylaw Committee...

Every single meeting of this committee was open to the public. The committee
gratefully accepted every bit of public comment. The issue of how to define one
versus multiple buildings was discussed at length. There were further chances at
the Planning Board to pro bide public input. All these meetings were held in a
convenient location and attending them would have been easy. Unfortunately only
a few members of the public attended. Now you attempt to slander all their hard
work by trying to imply it was some dark developer favored back room deal. You
are plain wrong and it is        like you who denigrate a public process you
couldn't be bothered to attend. For shame.
10:32 am edt 

Saturday, September 25, 2010

Re: CPA...Let's Appropriate the 70% to Restoration and Open Space

I agree and there's no need to keep the Land Bank.  Do away with it and give the
tax payers a break for a change.
10:21 pm edt 

Rubber Chicken Law

Ridiculous! We want open signs for those staying open in winter.  There is
absolutely NOTHING wrong with this. Give us a break.  Times change and so should
this stupid "law".
10:15 pm edt 

CootHer is Couture, Michelle

Her outbursts and inappropriate demands
have shed a negative light for anyone wanting to volunteer for town boards. 
Shame on her for that.  Think before you stink, I mean think.
10:12 pm edt 

Dear Priceless

The law is the law!  The cupcake vendor purposefully & willfully violoated
MULTIPLE warnings AND previous tickets issued on previous occasions.  To act
like this same act, whether in good faith, selling or giving away is ok after
the many previous demands to stop doing this zoning violation is no more than
another attempt to discredit the laws of the town. He should have gone OVERBOARD
in getting permission from the police based on his previous (MULTIPLE)
violations/citation previously issued.  Shame on him and on the producer for not
getting WRITTEN permission and permits from the police based on the Cupcake
man's lack of respect for the law.  Give us all a break... pay rent and taxes
and follow the rules/law like everyone else is expected to.
10:07 pm edt 


I just read a couple of things here where a couple of people are disgrunted with
the Police because of the tickets the cup cake man has been given. I am not a
police lover either but from the gossip and true gossip I have heard is the
Chief is trying to professionalize the dept and his way of doing it is, by
locking everyone up and writing citations to everyone who breathes or looks at a
cop the wrong way. All I can say is 2 things. It's not the cops fault that the
police chief wants his men to treat us this way and the other is just remember
when he wants something on town hall floor from us voters.
10:04 pm edt 

Re: Horse Barn

At the Horse Barn, remember, ONE house, if connected by one 2 x 4 or
lattice or toothpicks or a bandaid, can become so much more.   1 does not equal
l, 1 equals 2 at least, thanks to your Ad Hoc Bylaw team made up of developers
and their puppets at town hall. Say goodbye to the Horse Barn and hello to
multiple prefabs.  Willow St. is next, can fit at least 50 in there. 
11:52 am edt 

Re: Horse Barn

According to the ad for the sale of the horse barn, there are approved
plans for at least one house.  So, yes part of the land is buildable.
11:20 am edt 

Re: Funds

The original purpose of the CPA was to restore existing
buildings for affordable housing. It's intent was not for new
pre-fab mega projects. I will not approve more than the 10% of
the 30% for affortable housing. Let's appropriate the 70% to
restoration and open space.

E noth is E noth
11:18 am edt 


Movie being shot in Ptown, $10,000. Cupcakes made and GIVEN AWAY for a
scene, $50. Police fine for illegal distribution of cupcakes $250. Police Chief
not knowing what is going on after morning roll call.... PRICELESS!!
11:17 am edt 

Re: Horse Barn

So soon they forget.  Bangs St. prefabs are built in the "protected"  buffer
zone of a wetland.   Depends on who you know.  Rules were made to be broken so
tighten away.  If those who hand out approvals are in bed with developers, it
doesn't matter. 
11:15 am edt 

Re: Cupcakes

After the most recent Cupcake ticket I am truly ashamed of
Provincetown.  I have lost what little respect I had for the cops...what asses. 

11:14 am edt 

Re: The land Where the Horse Barn is on Blueberry/West Vine
I agree that it would be nice to keep as is. But is it build-able anyway? If
that property is not wetlands or within the protected buffer zone, we need to
tighten up our wetland protection by-laws. I would not ant to see the Town pay
too much for this property like we did for Suzanne's garden scam.

Maybe we could put some port-a-pottys at Suzanne's garden so people could relive
themselves before reaching PAAM.

I'll chip in for the TP  

4:59 am edt 

Licensing Board Decimated

Too few members and even those who now serve: who are they? It's amess and too
indicative of what has happened to too many of our boards. It's a shame. We do
need leadership here. Speaking of that, is Sharon leading us? Is she really
back? Mums the word at town trailers. Thus you know--it's serious.
4:57 am edt 

I Think I Know Who the KootHer is

It's none other than KootHer when her name was said as Lisa Hughes pronouned it
at the 100th anniversay of the monument. That's who I think KootHer is. Who do
you think she is?
4:56 am edt 

Friday, September 24, 2010

What's in a Name?

Koother? Koot Her! Cooter. Cootmando. Kootabunga dude! Cootchie
Cootchie mama. Kooties? Cuoch. Oops, I said a bad word.
6:26 pm edt 

Re: Open Space

There are more than a few nice open parcels of land that the Town
should consider purchasing to keep some open space.  The land where the horse
barn is on Blueberry/West Vine has been for sale for a long time.  It would be
nice to keep it the way it is rather than wait for housing to be built on it. 
The land across from Victor's Restaurant as well as the adjacent parcel down
West Vine are both up for sale.  These parcels should also be purchased to keep
some open space.  Of course, many are against keeping open space and would
rather develop the open space into affordable housing.
2:37 pm edt 

Re: Licensing Issues

Can someone tell me who KootHer is? The paragraph on licensing refers to a lack
of membership on the Licensing Board thanks to KootHer - who is this person?
12:08 pm edt 

October 1st

There comes a time when  we should be permitted to put up a gate at the Truro
town line on (6 and 6a,)  So we can get our chores done, enjoy a few sunny days,
stop whinning, get re-aquainted with one another. So we can come together as one
so we can stop shouting . I think that day should be October 1st, and then
re-open for thanksgiving and holly follie.
12:00 pm edt 

Open Land Across From Victor's

The town should start by purchasing the land across from Victor's restaurant -
there is enough development on West Vine as it is.  Let's keep some open space
11:59 am edt 

How About a Moratorium on Building?

The new sewer system is at capacity. The infrastructure can not handle any more buildings. Let's just stop. We don't need any more homes. We are ruining this beautiful town. Just stop. Buy up
open space and stop building. There is no need for additional growth. Provincetown is a small town, its not meant to be a large mecca.
9:05 am edt 

Thursday, September 23, 2010

I So Agree With You: Buiy Up the Open Land, Keep it for All of Us

We need enough land, we need enough open space. Look at what we really have.
Don't just look at the National Seashore. If the town had control, it would be
filled with No Tresspassing sings and multi-million mansions.

We need to purchase open land and allow some sense of the beauty of Provincetown
to punctuate our town. Otherwise, the only open space will be the dump.

Please wake up. Please support purchasing open land.
11:49 pm edt 

Re: "A Quaint Fishing Village With Many Tasteful Aspects?"

Are you kidding me? I mean, you're joking, right? I love living here as much as
the next person, but let's call a spade a spade.

Drag queens riding scooters up and down Commercial St. Numerous sex toy stores.
A huge, garishly painted head shop selling drug paraphenilia. Men in thongs
riding carnival parade floats. Dozens of "art" galleries selling cliche
paintings of little white cottages and sand dunes. Constant public drunkenness
all summer long by tourists and all winter long by townies. Real estate offices
on every street corner. Sex under the Boatslip deck. A neon green line down the
middle of the main street deemed appropriate by the Board of Selectmen.

Where exactly is this quaint, tasteful fishing village you speak of?

Apparently it's not visible from Provincetown.
11:45 pm edt 

Wake Up Provincetown

Anyone who calls  Ptown "home" desperately needs to heed a call. 

"Townie" or not, your love of the town NEEDS to rise up NOW.  If you can look to
the future AT ALL your mission should be united.  PRESERVE THE NATURAL BEAUTY OF
AS AIDING  THE LESS FORTUNATE.  Take a walk through the dunes and realize the
gift you are priviledged to experience.  DO NOT TAKE PTOWN FOR GRANTED SO THE
YEAR-ROUND residents AND property owners to change the course of this town by
showing up at town meetings, emailing, writing, calling town officials.  Drive
them crazy.  Anyone with a brain in town hall should be seeing that Ptown itself should be buying and acquiring every square inch of OPEN SPACE left that hasn't been scooped up by developers out to make a buck.     DID YOU LEARN NOTHING FROM THE CHEAP "townhouses" on BANGS ST. 
6:21 pm edt 

No "Open" Signs in Season
If your doors are open, and your lights are on in season, and customers are not
entering your shop, an open sign is not the answer. Take Whalers Wharf for an
example, with 50 businesses, maybe they should have 50 OPEN flags all over the
front of the building, NOT!  This is a QUAINT fishing village with many tasteful
aspects, and some from the dark side. What we do not need is a 1060s ACID
flashback with garish tasteless OPEN signs. The Rubber Chicken law was put in
place for a reason!!!
6:00 pm edt 

Keep the Land Bank, Ditch CPA Funds

I'd continue to pay, gladly, for the purchasing of open land for this town. We
need it. Almost every corner is taken and allowed to be overbuilt.

3% for land is great. Drop the 3% for CPA. Here we're just sending our $159 or
$368 a year to developers. Keep the Land Bank. Get rid of CPA taxes.
3:26 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown's Dark Side

It is not a stone I am turning over when my houseguests are awakened
by two men having sex on my patio outside their bedroom window. The people that
live near the Boatslip should not be expected to put up with crap like that.
1:11 pm edt 

Re: "Open" Flags

If you need to put out an "open" flag on Commercial Street during the summer,
you have more problems than anyone in this town can help you with.

Off season flags only.  I don't want to look down Commercial Street and see sign
after sign telling me something I already know.
1:07 pm edt 

Ted Malone Has Operated Most Lotteries For Affordable Housing

He has run most of them. Even with the BAtes Motel Gerry Anatham and Cass BEnson
deal--where CPA funds went to them for $750,000--which came to $1.2 million with
interest that we are paying--it was TEd Malone that gained $250,000 as a
consultant and he ran that lottery too. Now his company "manages" the property
for even more money.

Ted has been a Taker, not a giver. He is here for profit, overdevelopment and
for his gain. He takes state and federal monies and now town monies. And what do
we get? Condos for his help. Houses for his workers. Such a deal!
1:05 pm edt 

Re: Open Flags

1.  Eliminate all date restrictions
2.  Allow flag size of 3 x 5 or smaller
3.  Require a short permit form to be filled out by the business wishing to
display the flag, signed by the owner.
4.  On this permit, CLEARLY recite size, height and pole restrictions, words
allowed to be displayed, i.e. WELCOME, OPEN, etc. and any other requirements to
eradicate "confusion" later on when someone complains.
5.  Charge a $25.00 flat fee for the permit, no matter the size of the flag. 
Good for any period of time up to a year from issuance. 
6.  If businesses want to fly a flag, they can afford to pay a nominal fee to
cover costs when people complain, and they will.
Other towns charge a $20.00 fee for a permit for a yard sale once a year.
7.  Use the money made to buy toilet paper for the public restrooms. 
There, you've killed two birds with one stone. 
1:04 pm edt 

Re: Open Flags Ect...

Anything to help the businesses like shops and restuarants is ok with me.
Banning sandwich boards and open flags are not going to make commmercial street
any less tacky, it is what it is.  While we're on the topic, over zealous
enforcement by the police (especially officer Enos) only hurts a commmunity.
Police officers are supposed be community helpers, not detractors. A little
common sense is needed for this police force.  The most recent cupcake incident
is a prime example. When people complained about it the chief did nothing to
make the situation better. The people they overly harrass are the same people
they may need to help solve a future crime. If this is the way they are choosing
to treat people they are going to lose their credibility and community
cooperation.  Community policing is not a program it is a philosophy.
Provincetown police need to realize this before it is too late.  
11:21 am edt 

Re: Open Flags

Debate Topic-

If u were in charge would you (pick one):

1) keep existing zoning bylaw restricting open flags to nov 1 to may 1 with
requirements that user register flag with community development.
2) liberalize rules and allow sept 30 to June 1 , eliminate registration
requirement, include rules to insure flags don't block pedestrian or vehicle
3) eliminate all date restrictions and just make sure flag size is 3x5 and don't
interfere with people or vehicles?

Which one would you vote for and why?

Subsidiary question, would you want to see strict enforcement, eg forcing       
           to remove it's current illegal welcome flag, or are you more in the
who cares camp?

10:10 am edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

If you really need to get into affordable housing, don't you think you
should be helping the good groups in town, to get some of these buildings done?
Who knows you might be somebody they are looking for to live in their
neighborhood and help shape and plan these homes..
12:10 am edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

Someone makes it sound like Ted Malone has used all of our CPC
affordable housing money. From what I've found is that the units that he has
built in town,Is that no town money was used. Meaning if he wanted to sell units
to anyone he wanted to, he could. As long as he went along with any guidelines
from the loans he received to build the housing. Which had nothing to do with
the housing that he is planing to build in town now with some of the funding
coming from the community preservation act. These will be affordable rentals
that will never be sold at market rate, they are different rates of rentals and
will stay that way for 99 years, at that time the town will decide weather to
expand them for longer or whatever the town wants then, with these units.
12:09 am edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

Wrong again on affordable housing, Ted Malone does not run the lottery
for all of the affordable units in town. Many affordable units are run
differently than the lottery way. If you were really interested in how certain
people get housing and others don't, you would know this. Only a few units from
the past had a clause that after five years it could become market rate, this
has since changed. My housing has a deed restriction from an up cape agency (not
town). where the affordability clause runs out in fifteen years or if I sell
before that I have to pay back the loans they gave me to keep it affordable. All
affordable housing here in town are all different. So don't believe just because
of some perceived mistakes that were made with one developer, that all
affordable housing is run like that. 
12:07 am edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

At the risk of being edited.  Pam T. made in the 60K range over her
purchase price.  Do your homework and remove the role of speculation.  
12:03 am edt 

Wednesday, September 22, 2010

Drug Disposal

I'm thankful that we have a drug drop-off program this Saturday.  But everyone
should also know the correct way to dispose of them.

Never flush them down your toilet or sinks.  They will eventually enter the
water supply.  The best way is to add them to used coffee grounds and throw them
in the trash.  They will end up at SeaMass where they will be incinerated.
7:28 pm edt 

Re: Housing Scam

So they made money after the five year waiting period. So what? It was all legal
and that's the way it goes. Thank the selectmen for signing an agreement they
obviously didn't read. Same goes right now with the Gulls Nest unit. The
selectmen are shocked at the possibility of losing a unit? They signed off on
the CPA funding agreement with Malone. It's all in the documents. If you don't
like the current way things are done, get them changed. Don't jump people for
exercising their right to sell if they choose.

And as far as the townies that want to get the housing, don't, and then cry
foul, it's their own fault. They don't understand the rules for applying and
when they are confused or miss a date, they get frustrated and cry foul. Get
your info right, get it in on time and qualify for the housing. Don't just cry
"townie". How many of these townies looking for housing have ever joined the
effort to develop this affordable housing program? The answer is none.
7:26 pm edt 

Does Anyone Know if the Licensing Board Has Enough Members to Render Any Decisions?
I know that for the last four weeks, they could not make any legal decisions.
Not enough members.

We can thank KootHer for that. KootHer demanded that the Chair resign. KootHer
refused to appoint Rafael Richter as a full-time member; KootHer then demanded
that eveyone else resign. First they didn't. Then they did. Now we have a big
problem becuase the KootHer actions led to a disaster. What was she ever
thinking? Oh, yes, that is not her strong suit.
5:17 pm edt 

Wrong and Wrong Again

Town residents are on the list because they will never get "selected" in the Ted
Malone rigged lottery. They neither work for Ted Malone nor go out with anyone
who does. That is a sure way to get "picked" in the lottery that Ted Malone
runs. The list remains long because people who really need affordable housing
and have been here for years or are town people will never get the housing. They
can't play the lottery game.
5:12 pm edt 

Those Who Sold Affordable Housing at Market Rate Did Pocket the Profit

They made money. They had to wait five years but the money was theris and we all
lost. The affordable housing was lost and those working for Ted Malone made good
money. Just a scam, a profit-making scam for Malone and company.
5:10 pm edt 

Re: Dark Side

No, some People Just Like Talking to Themselves As Darkside Poster

Call a friend and spend hours gossiping. Maybe that will relieve your need to
turn over stones.
5:09 pm edt 

Public Health Announcement

The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), joined by Office of
National Drug Control Policy and government, community, public health and law
enforcement groups will hold a nationwide prescription drug "Take-Back" day on
Saturday, September 25th from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m.

DEA and local partners will be collecting potentially dangerous expired, unused,
and unwanted prescription drugs for destruction at collection sites around the

The service is free and anonymous, no questions asked.

Prescription drug abuse is the fastest growing drug problem in the United
States; with prescription drugs ranking as the second most abused category of
drugs behind marijuana. While these medications are safe and effective when
taken as directed for legitimate medical purposes, they are just as dangerous
and deadly as illicit drugs when taken for non-medical purposes or ingested

In addition, because prescription drugs are legal, they are easily accessible.
In many cases, prescription drugs are kept in the home medicine cabinet long
after therapy has been completed, thus making these drugs readily available to
others who would misuse or abuse them. A recent study found that more than 70
percent of people who abused prescription pain medications like Oxycontin
(oxycodone) and Vicodin (hydrocodone) say they got them from friends or
relatives. Further, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports that
the number of unintentional drug induced deaths involving opioid pain
medications more than tripled between 1999 and 2006, totaling more deaths than
those from heroin and cocaine combined.

Due to the significant public health risks posed by expired, unused, or unwanted
prescription drugs, it is extremely important that they are properly disposed of
and not left where they could be used for non-medical reasons or accidentally

One of the best ways to properly dispose of prescription drugs is through
Take-Back programs, like those available during the National Take-Back day on
September 25, 2010.

Local drop off point:  Provincetown Police Department
                       26 Shankpainter Road
                       Provincetown, MA 02657

                       Saturday Seotember 25, 2010
                       10am to 2pm ONLY

3:53 pm edt 

Re: Housing Scam

Maybe those that have been waiting on lists for years are the ones trying to
scam.  Seems to me that if they've been on the lists for years, then they are
able to pay their current rent or don't have major housing issues.  Maybe they
just feel entitled (as so many do in this town) to get a cheaper, subsidized
rent so they can work even less.

Sure there are problems with subsidized housing, but my guess is that 'the list'
that contains all these people in need of housing is actually a fraction of what
it should be.  I'm guessing at least two thirds of the people just feel entitled
simply by the fact that they live here.
10:39 am edt 

Re: Housing Scam

There is no and has never been a "housing scam" as someone has
blogged. If you have been passed over for housing, you have the right to appeal
it with the state. They make the laws if state and/or federal money has been
used. You are sounding like you only wanna make problems. How many years are you
going to beat this dead horse down? If what you have said is true and you had
reported it to the right agency, the news media would have been all over it by
now. We know you can't stand Ted Malone ETC. But it's years old news. 
10:21 am edt 

Tuesday, September 21, 2010

Housing Scam:

It's sad you need to be homeless before you even qualify
for a unit.....  That's pathetic...

Most people I know have been waiting and are still waiting for units....Have
been told there are none available.  But yet I go to the store the other day and
overheard someone talking about a unit they just got.  How is this possible.

They have not been on the list long at all.  While others remain on the list for
years !!  What a scam !!!!
11:42 pm edt 

Ted Malone Use it or Lose it!

We the taxpayers want you to recind
your CPA funding. It is apparent that
you will not get the state funding.

I love these scamers who try to make
money from the dollars  of honest
taxpayers. Go to a bank and get
a loan like we all do.
Enough is enough
11:40 pm edt 

Sex, Housing and Taxes

Thankfully the majority of the Provincetown townspeople are good
people and disagree with most of the blogs on here or we would have a chapter of
the tea party here. Blog all you want against sex, housing and taxes all you
want. You have that right. But you might have more supporters of your views
11:39 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

Hey Gulls nest giveaway blogger. If a unit there sells at market rate,
the seller does NOT get the extra $. The towns affordable housing gets the
difference. Get your facts right before you complain about something.
10:33 pm edt 

Chapter 40B

This November 2nd, Question 2 on the ballot will seek to repeal the
states comprehensive housing permit law, known as Chapter 40B. Those few of us
here who post our dislike for this "Affordable Housing" at the expense of the
tax payer aren't alone. This repeal will probably fail, but the opposition wont
go away. And eventually we will prevail.

A Rat In The Basement
4:41 pm edt 

Re: Dark Side

Maybe the folks that are tired of the "dark side" postings are "dark
side" vistors. Shouldn't people be able to post on what is important to them?
Isn't that the point of a free society, free speach? I am sure there is an
editorial position available for you somewhere else. Carry on folks, carry on.  

4:39 pm edt 

You Missed the Point

We know Provincetown. We don't need the scurrilous details that you have studied
and picked up. Off to more pressing issues. Let night take you away.
2:03 pm edt 

Pam Parmagian Did Get an Affordable as Did AJ Allon and Monica and Rex McKinsey

And all of these can be sold at market rate and then guess what? They drop out
of the affordable housing numbers and our numbers are lessened and then the
scream for we need more affordabel housing. It's time to stop this affordable
housing only for those who work for Ted Malone game. Enough is enough. It is a
sick joke on the town and on those who really need affordable housing. They
never ever will be "selected."
2:01 pm edt 

Making Your Own Rules

The season is over, downtown was SO quiet Monday afternoon, plenty of
parking spaces in the lots, on the street etc and STILL I needed to drive around
the cabs and a pickup on my way to Seashore Point.  Heck the "Point's" parking
lot is always pretty empty why not just lease some spots there!  Oh right---why
bother when you can make your own rules.
2:00 pm edt 

Gulls Nest Give Away

Another potential giveaway due to  loophole in the deed restrictions on low
income units. One would have thought that if the condo had to be sold at  market
price, the unit owner would have to give the premium back to the town who
subsidized this robin hood project in the first place.  When will we learn....

One would also think that if there is no one to buy this property who is
eligible - maybe we should not appropriate any more funds for these boondoggle
projects in the future.
1:58 pm edt 

Affordable Housing Revealed

The Ryan Report stating the need for 250 rentals--proven to be bogus.

A rush to give funds to the developers from CPA monies. The result? Affordable
housing units--Too cramped; no big rush to buy. If a unit doesn't rent--it goes
for rent at marker rate. (10 years worth of affordable housing has been built
and counting).

Now a Designated low-income section of town by the gas station that is visible
for all to see rather than being integrated into the community.

How foolish not to give an increase in rent to landlords so they would rent to
low income folks. Instead, the rents have been decreased.
1:56 pm edt 

Truro Harbormaster

Tuesday night is the scheduled meeting for a final decision on his appeal. I
hope the selectmen wave the matter and make it all go away. No need to continue
the issue. Let it go and let Joe get back to work. I also hope a certain someone
steps away from the discussion due to what is clearly a conflict. No need to
muddy the waters. Here's hoping Joe fairs well.
1:54 pm edt 

Bull , Baby!

Pam Parmagian got a good deal when she was worknig for Ted Malone and got a
Oh-yes-I'm-so-lucky-lottery choice. Then when she sold it, she got a market
value price. It was five years later.

Please, Pam Parmagian was Ted Malone's puppet. she got  a good deal and made
real money. Le'ts not play a game of lies here.

Pam and Monica--just check out how much Monica made in her first purchase and
guess what, in her second--I'ts astounding!--sure you don't even have a clue, do
you?  It's an affordable housing joke.

And who are you to state anything about Astird--a solid business person who
has provided all of us with great food options.

Pam Parmagian and Monica are in their own worlds. They get and get from this town
and they give nothing.

Don't even bring up Astrid's name in the same sentence.
1:52 pm edt 

Monday, September 20, 2010

Re: Darkside Postings are Terrible

As I said, nobody wants to talk about these issues. They hit too close to home
with too many people. Don't rock the boat, don't spoil the party!

Yep, just put your rose colored Ptown glasses back on and pretend everything
here is great. Stick your head back in the sand and ignore it.

10:02 am edt 

Can We Say Goodby to Dennis Minsky?

Can this be removed. It's been on for too many weeks. On to the next....
12:47 am edt 

The Darkside Posting are Terrible

No more. Write in your own diary. Stop postings these lengthy moronic postings.
12:46 am edt 

The State is Reducing the Percentage They are Matching For CPA Funds

WE have been foolish. We have spent in poor ways the monies in the CPA funds. We
could have used the monies for restoration, for the Library or other buildings
and even private houses. But we literally gave the monies away. Get rid of CPA.
Keep the Land Bank. At least we get woods like NIcky's Park. I'm for that good
use. No more for Ted Malone and his money-making high density developments.
Theya re a disaster and should not be allowed in Provincetown. Menay Cape towns
prohibit such large affordable housing developments. Why are we so foolish?
12:45 am edt 

Webmaster's Biases are Transparent

I made a true favorable comment in about Astrid Berg, but webmaster misconstrued
and blocked it out.

Yet today we have another dead horse issue come up about Pam Parmakian and he
publishes it:""Gee, Remember when Pam bought hers and sold it for a king's

Even though it has been well documented on here that she did not buy an
affordable unit. She hardly made a profit on the sale, I think she lost money if
you include the carrying costs.

Shame on Clarence
12:42 am edt 

Sunday, September 19, 2010

Re: CPA vs Land Bank

If true what previous poster said about state matching funds for CPA
and not Land Bank then I agree drop the Land Bank.  But CPA cte needs to be more
responsible and I don't see that happening.
2:18 pm edt 

Re: The Dark Side

Recently one blogger requested that others stop writing in about what
has become known on this blog as "the dark side," the ongoing problem of people
having sex on the beach at night. Another blogger wrote of his love of public
sex and advised others to "live and let live."

These comments perfectly illustrate a much bigger problem we have here in Ptown.
I'm referring to the popular local practice of "looking the other way" and
ignoring subjects that should be addressed (and would be in any other town) in
the name of pseudo bohemianism.

There were several recent posts by someone lamenting the long gone days of
"Helltown" which he seems to be using as a euphemism for a time of constant
partying and drug use.

Marijuana use (though decriminalized locally) is still not a legal activity an
neither is public sex or indecent exposure. Many people try to rationalize these
common local practices by saying "Oh, well it's Provincetown, we're relaxed
here, it's our laidback lifestyle, we're nonconformist, we're edgy, we're
hippies, etc., etc., etc."

This town does have a great and well deserved reputation for tolerance,
eclecticism and creativity. However, sitting around stoned all the time and
screwing on the beach in public doesn't really make us a thriving creative
community of artists and individualists.

If people want to restore and revive this town's creative spirit, they should
put their energy behind something that matters. Support and promote the arts.
Work to build real affordable housing so creative types can afford to live here.

Fight for something more important than your "right" to smoke pot and have sex
on the beach.

12:44 pm edt 

Affordable Housing Projects

Let's get rid of all of the developers who are raping Provincetown. We
still need to buy open land,fix up buildings, but c'mon we don't need to build
anymore affordable housing projects. Let's buy up presently owned buildings and
turn them into affordable units. The stigma of living in a "project" is hurtful
to many children.

What does the data show us? What are the numbers? Presently, how many affordable
units to we have in Provincetown? How many do we need? How many people are on a
waiting list? What are the income limits in order to apply for affordable
housing? Where are the jobs for these people?

CPA funds should not be used to build Affordable Housing Projects.
12:41 pm edt 

Boatslip Beach:

I am 110% in favor of preventing AIDS not promoting it and that's what goes on
at the dock !

Let's cleanup the beach and stop this behavior .....
12:39 pm edt 

The Dock:

It is a shame the police had to STOP patrolling the beach at the Boastlip at
night.  The damage that has been done to others property in the area because
they break fences, lights and etc is a crime.

For the lady who stands in the alley handing out condoms (which people don't
take by the way), is a sin.  She let's everyone going to the dock know when the
police are coming.. 

Is this something she would like to have in her parents yard?  She should be
ashamed of herself....

Let's get back to the OLD policing and start stepping up the trespassing !
12:38 pm edt 

Hmm It's Shout Out Not Hush Up!

The headlines are handy so you can pass by stuff you don't want to read.
That's nicer than asking people not to post about something. Life isn't so dark after all.
12:37 pm edt 

Town Meeting

Don't "The Powers that Be" want to rush an article through town meeting to pave
the way for developers to develop The Basin at Shank Painter Rd even though the
state denied the developers the funds three times now?

Give the money back to the Town to put it towards the Library and to help the
residents who live here now.

Stop pouring money into the bank accounts of these developers.
12:33 pm edt 

How do We Repeal the CPA Tax?

I don't wont another penny going to the
greedy developers. How many signatures to you need to get to put it up for a
vote at Town Meeting? Can anyone tell me what the process is? thanks.
12:29 pm edt 

Selectmen Shocked!
Selectmen are shocked at what is Business as usual regarding development in
Provincetown. Let the taxpayers buy the land and give it to developers. Some of
the board of selectmen fell all over themselves giving this tax payer paid for
land to developers--and now anyone can buy an apartment. Just Great.
12:28 pm edt 

Market Value Affordable Housing

It has been pointed out since day one that it is a lie that affordable housing
units stay affordable. List for four months and then it goes for sale at market
rate? Oh, but the town gets the money...How do you spell Developers scam? Easy
a-f-f-o-r-d-a-b-l-e H-o-u-s-i-n-g.

Developers develope our open space and will make money no matter what.
12:27 pm edt 

Affordable Housing
Affordable housing truths

So the Board of Selectmen are shocked that an affordable housing unit can now be
sold at market rate if no one buys it. Gee, Remember when Pam bought hers and
sold it for a king's ransome?

Rentals are the same way--no one wants one? OK, if no one who qualifies buys
one, then it will go for rent on the open market--remember, the developers never
lose out--Only Provincetown.

Units crmamed in too small for two people to turn around in. Gee, why didn't
they sell?

12:26 pm edt 

Senior Citizen Dilemma

As a senior citizen on a fixed income anything the town can do to
reduce property taxes would be a blessing.  I'm probably rich because my house
is worth much more than what I paid for it over 40 years ago, but I don't want
to sell my house, I want to stay here in my home in my town.  But I can barely
pay my bills each month.
12:24 pm edt 

CPA vs Land Bank

Can't repeal CPA for a number of years, 2020 i think.  it's the deal
we made when we signed up for it and agreed to take funds from state.  Can do
away with land bank and I agree it's time.
12:22 pm edt 


State provides matching funds to CPA, but not to Land Bank.  Makes no
sense to get rid of the fund that provides matching funds.  If you're worried
about too much $ going to affordable housing and not to open space then don't
vote for the CPC recommendation. 

And when the open space cte votes $250k in Land Bank funds to purchase someone's
mother's garden tell me how that kept land from developers?  The lost all
credibility with many of us in town when they took that path.

It's time to reduce the property tax surcharges.
12:20 pm edt 


Don't like what the CPC  (the committee who's job it is to bring recommendations
to Town Meeting for CPA money)

Here is the CPA as of today:


    * Dorothy Palanza, Chair Board - Term Ends 6/30/13
    * David Hale, Conservation - Term Ends 6/30/13
    * Eric Drey, Historical - Term Ends 6/30/13
    * Nancy Jacobson, Housing - Term Ends 6/30/13
    * Arturo Alon, Community - Term Ends 6/30/10
    * Stephen Milkewicz, Open Space - Term Ends 6/30/13
    * Susan Cook, Recreation - Term Ends 6/30/13
    * Vacant, At Large - Term Ends 6/30/13
    * Vacant, At Large - Term Ends 6/30/13

At a minimum, i see 3 vacancies.  So gang,   VOLUNTEER !

Our  town needs your help.

Slippery Clam
12:19 pm edt 

Saturday, September 18, 2010

Land Bank & CPA

I agree with a previous poster. Get rid of theCPA and keep
the land bank.  I'd rather give the full 6% sur charge to
buy available open space than put our monies in the hands
of greedy developers who are sitting on those funds and
scaming us in the name of affordable housing. It is time
to repeal CPA.
8:59 am edt 

Keep Your Dark Side to Yourself

Enough of the Darkside. good to provide insights into the past, but this is just
too much. Enough is enough.
8:58 am edt 

Friday, September 17, 2010

I'd Keep the Land Bank and Get Rid of CPA Funds

Buying land is great. We should put money into purchasing land that is held in
perpetuity for all of us. The problem with the CPA funds is that it was and is
still highjacked by affordable housing. This board just doesn't give much money
for land nor for historic restoration. It all goes to Ted Malone. What a stupid
thing to do.

So, let's get rid of CPA and the CPC committee.

Keep the Land Bank.
6:45 pm edt 

CPA Fund

3% tax is a very small price for open space that is forever open
4:26 pm edt 

Please Stop

To the bloggers who insult others.. please stop.
we need correct information provided to make up
our owm minds, if a person is wrong in the information,
please set them straight with the correct facts and
nothing more.
12:35 pm edt 

Re: Taxis Service



If you bothered to listen to the whole call on the scanner..

I believe that the "dog officer" transferred an animal to the groomers/kennel
after the owner had suffered a medical emergency and needed to be transported to
the hospital by ambulance.

Forget about feigning arrogance, ignorance apparent suits you better.
9:58 am edt 

Taxi Cabs

Alden st is not the only street affected by taxi cabs. Come drive by Brewster st
where 4 different cab companies use this street as a grave yard as well, you can
find  several cabs dumped there
9:56 am edt 

Re: Land Bank

I would vote for combining the Land Bank with the
Community preservation fund.  Still can opt to buy open space if we vote to from
comm. preservation funds and it would cut out one of the 3% surcharges on our
property taxes.
9:52 am edt 

Provincetown's Dark Side
Clearly if something was an issue in the 80's and it is still an issue
town government is not running well.
It is not the sex on the beach that is the problem it is the indiscretion.

I know a woman that was walking her dog near the Boatlsip one morning, an hour
or so after sunrise. She was shocked to glance upon a man all by himself, pants
to his ankles jerking off in broad daylight. The distance from the beach to the
farthest depths under than deck is not great enough to expect privacy.
People shouldn't have to put up with that. It is offensive. Town officials and
the police are responsible for doing something about it.  They need to be held
If you have had issues in that area please let them know of the situation and
also that you expect them to do something about it. Clearly not everyone is
comfortable with what goes on down there.
The saddest part is that if those that want to partake would stay out of site,
off peoples property and be quiet and tidy nobody would be the wiser. At this
point it sounds like we need a little crowd control. 
9:51 am edt 

Letter to the Editor

Wow, the letter stating no need for required homeowners septic inspections,
was right on the money. well done and thank you for looking after the towns
elderly population.
9:48 am edt 

Beaches After Dark

Since when is it against the law to hang on the beaches after dark?
9:47 am edt 

Tea Party

This blog is not like fox news, its like the tea party! Taken over by
nut cases.
9:45 am edt 

Thursday, September 16, 2010

Re: Alden Street

To the poster who wrote "Must be another Cab company complaining about the Cabs being in the street."

I am ONE of the posters who has written about the conditions on Alden St.  I have NO connection to any cab company...I just want to see the same rules apply to all of us AND see a very unsafe situation remedied.  I have no choice but to drive on Alden to get to Seashore Pt and Stop/ safety is being threatened by the town;s willingness to let this situation continue.
10:32 pm edt 

Provincetown's Dark Side

Town government must be running very well these days. All I'm reading on here is old news about men having sex on the beach. What is this a 1980s rerun?
10:30 pm edt 

Provincetown's Dark Side

Not jealous. Not getting over. Just plain disgusted that people loiter, cause a nuisance, trespass onto private properties, render an entire section of a public beach useless for others and leave used condoms and assorted trash behind. Eliminate that and I don't care who is doing who and where.

It's not FOX news. It is a community issue that some people are concerned about and the dialogue began.

The police patrol generally keeps it on the down low and people are not arrested. That seems fair. It keeps it under control. That stopped a few weeks before Labor Day? Why Sharon? Why Bob? Why Selectmen?

Before you toss insults around move it to your front yard.
10:29 pm edt 

Provincetown's Dark Side

I love having sex osn the beach. And I'm straight! Remember, when you point the finger, three are pointing back at you. Live & let live.
10:27 pm edt 

Selectmen's Goal

Looks like the selectmen want to get rid of the land bank funds so the developers can get even more open space to build on.
10:25 pm edt 

Banner vs Advocate

This blog is more like the defunct Provincetown Advocate newspaper than fox news. And we all know who was behind the lies of that blog before its time.
10:22 pm edt 

Then and Now

I think that the town looks and is much more pleasant to live in now that the former locals left town with their families.
10:20 pm edt 

Re: Note to the Alden St. Taxi Poster

OK here we go again. Last summer the Alden Street based taxi company had taken the liberty of parking autos in need of repair on Town cemetery property, which directly abuts the taxi company at the rear. I made a comment about it here on the blog and soon an article in the Banner stated that Astrid Berg, of the Cemetery Commission had addressed the issue. After that the taxis were no longer on cemetery ground.

Now the cabs are on the street. This intersection of Alden St., Cemetery Rd., and Standish St., is highly traveled by locals as our back road around summer congestion. Even in the winter, making the corner requires courtesy on all drivers' parts to make it work.

The illegally parked taxi cabs should be ticketed. The parking department is always on the prowl for resident zone violators on Alden and Standish St. It is hard to believe that they do not notice.  

Fair is Fair
10:19 pm edt 

Town Hall Renovation

The sod and and new dog fountain area at Town Hall look fantastic! Can't wait to get inside and see what's been done!
10:17 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown's Dark Side

I don't think anyone really intends to  blame gays for "ruining" the town (for that matter, is town really "ruined"?)  I think it is fair to point out, though, that the bad and disrespectful behavior of a minority of gay men, many of whom are tourists, has no place in the modern town.  There is no God-given inalienable right to public sex, destruction of property, rowdy behavior and vandalism.  Those particular gays have ruined a very lovely strip of the harbor beach. That's a fact that cannot be disputed or ignored.
10:14 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown's Dark Side

"It certainly wasn't good for the kids growing up, that's why there are so many fights. Now there isn't anything in this town for kids anymore."

Actually it's most likely just a result of poor parenting.  
10:12 pm edt 

Provincetown's Dark Side

 "Somebody wrote early Wednesday morning about "Provincetown's dark side" quoting an article in that days Banner. I have never seen the Banner on the news stand any earlier than 3:00 PM."

The Banner publishes many stories on its website, Wicked Local Provincetown, and that particular story was posted long before 3pm.  Case solved.  
10:10 pm edt 

Yeah Right!
Please! sex on the beach didnt bring about the demise of this town and frankly I am offended by the underlying overtones being illustrated on this blog. Its like reading what was on a earlier post that stated, "is this FOX News"? As if the fact that the gays moved in brought about the so called end of this town is so beyond ridiculous but I am not surprised I have heard those same comments made by some fellow members of the Ptown Chamber of Commerce. The reason some families moved is simple and plain, it was greed, some inherited their families homeplace and then sold it and made 20 to 30 x what their families paid for it and moved to Truro, Chatham, or Harwich. I by no means begrudge them their cash cow but dont blame the gays for what has happened here when the long time locals are just as responsible they sold to make money not because a couple of men were getting off on the beach near their back door!
2:51 pm edt 

What is going on with the postings here? We went from current events to the past--someone is loading up the blog with something that has nothing to do with our taxes, the running of the town or town Hall.

Throw in a diversion and forget about the town business.
2:45 pm edt 

Sex on the Beach
Thats been going on for years, even before the 70's, that's why so many people sold their property here. They complained, but police couldn't do anything about it even though they tried. It's sad what has happened to P-town, such a beautiful town.  

It certainly wasn't good for the kids growing up, that's why there are so many fights. Now there isn't anything in this town for kids anymore.

2:15 pm edt 

Tales From Provincetown's Dark Side
 In 1970 at 1am men would gather in front of the town hall and solicit strange men to get together and go behind the bass relief behind town hall. thus the name of the MEAT RACK became known as the benches in front of town hall.
 The police would regularly raid behind the plaque and chase out the many men found there. This was fun for the police and also exciting for the men.
  the problem increased until there were so many men behind the plaque that they began using the bushes to the left and right of the plaque.  when cars turned from commercial street to go towards bradford st. men would be exposed in the bushes by the car lights.
finnally the town in thier wisdom placed fences on both ends of the plaque
 next the men found mrs smalls house behind the martin house and began using her porch for their activity and when chased away from there by the police they found the Dick dock or the boatyard.  this problem over flowed to the coast guard wharf and they once used their fire hoses to wash out the area.  this is true.
  more to come.
9:45 am edt 

Re: Provincetown's Dark Side

Sex on the beach is allowed to continue because the town officials and the PBG actively promote it with the assistance of the AIDS Support Group and their barkers on the corner sending people down to the beach.  I thought the beach was for EVERYONE at any hour, but forget about admiring the natural beauty of our harbor after 10 at night unless you are lurking for sex.  Police even this summer were doing a good job of trying to keep it under control and then it mysteriously stopped.  I wonder which business owner or town official became afraid the horny tourists would stop spending money here?  It's all about the so called "rights" of men who are here for a few days (and a few old townies who should just go home at 1 a.m.) rather than the rights of property owners and taxpayers.  Who cares what we think?
9:43 am edt 

31 Bangs St.

Are the eyes playing tricks or is that a propane tank relief vent pipe within feet of the front porch of one of the middle buildings (in the "green space")?  If it is, that means Dennis Minsky and the "gang" at town hall decided this hillside (dune) was unstable enough to require a pile driven sheet metal wall implanted to help keep the buildings from ending up in the wetland and then they also allowed the propane tanks for these prefabs to go underground in the sand just on the other side of this wall.  Wow.  Unbelievable if true.  
9:41 am edt 

Taxis Service

9:40 am edt 

Re: Alden Street

Must be another Cab company complaining about the Cabs being in the street. Maybe someone should check to see where there Cabs are parked. People only have a short season to make their money, leave them alone.
9:38 am edt 

Re: Provincetown's Dark Side

You don't have to walk the beach near the Boatslip to find men having sex. Peek up and down the side streets and you will discover it going on there too. Condoms, new and USED, litter the streets in the surrounding area. If you don't see them it is because the residents are kind enough to pick them up.
I was appalled to see children playing under the "dick dock" during the Swim for Life. If only those clapping fans thought about that. Kids play under their nearly every day. It is disgusting.
Some nights there are two hundred men under there. This is beyond discrete interludes in a seemingly private setting.  
It keeps neighbors from enjoying the beach at night. it is public space and an asset to the community. Who wants to be trampled by horny men in search of a quickie while sitting on the town landing steps by the Martin House?
If you don't like it call the Selectmen and complain. Better yet put it in writing.
9:37 am edt 

Town Beaches After 1 AM
It's a total disgrace with what goes on the beaches after 1 am and what has been done to the properties as a result of the traffic. I know for a fact that the Police have tried to enforce it and act on complaints as well but for some reason they (gays) feel as they are being harrassed. Imagine that. So of course the Town Officials have told the Police to back off. Guess if it was their back yard, it would of been different espicially if gay guys were in the back yard of a lesbian town official. We all also know if that was straight people gathering on the beaches that time of night, they would of been peppered sprayed, etc and then some.
9:35 am edt 

FOX News

When did this blog become FOX NEWS?
9:33 am edt 

Re: Pronvincetown Dark Side

I live on the beach in the west end and I beg to differ with the blogger who thinks the police do nothing about people hanging out and doing things they shouldn't be doing at night on our beaches. Every Night I see the police clear out the offending from the beach. With so many people in town, of course as soon as the police leave, others will just start returning again. This cat and mouse scene has been going on longer than my 65 years living here. Get over it.
9:33 am edt 


If PAAM & the firehouse restrooms don't want people relieving themselves after hours on their property. Why don't they put up a Porto potty? After all, we all have been in that situation.
9:31 am edt 

Re: Provincetown's Dark Side

Sounds like somebody is jealous about people having sex on the beaches without him/her.
9:30 am edt 

Re: Provincetown's Dark Side

Very interesting that somebody wrote to this blog early Wednesday morning about "Provincetown's dark side" quoting an article in that days Banner. I have never seen the Banner on the news stand any earlier than 3:00 PM. National Enquiring minds want to know how that happened!
9:29 am edt 

Re: Note to the Alden St. Taxi Poster
Webmaster, why did you black out a salient sentence in my post of last night? The backed out statement was that a Town board member took heed of my complaint about Taxis parked on cemetery ground and moved to stop it.  I named the appointed board member, but it was in praise?

See Reply in Red  

Webmaster Comment: The posting was not clear as to the point that was being made. It read as though the Board member was responsible for the complaint being stopped or removed from the Blog, without attribution. Please resubmit the posting which clearly makes your point.

Sorry for the misinterpretation. 

9:27 am edt 

Wednesday, September 15, 2010

Re: What Did Cheryl Andrews Do?

The election is not until November for her.
8:44 pm edt 

Re: Zoning Matters

Thanks for the heads up about the You Tube Video about Mercedes Cab.

Isn't it ironic that even in the video they show (at the end) a line up of illegally parked cabs!

I also wonder if the town was reimbursed for the use of the COA Parking Lot earlier in the video.
8:40 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown's Dark Side

Town beaches have been notorious gay hotspots for years.  Cold temps dampen the mood but don't put out the fire.  So romantic in bushes by the moonlight.  Property owners have little hope but for some spotlights with metal mesh that can't be unscrewed or broken, some webcams hitched to protected motion sensor lights, planting some poison ivy in clumps along their property lines (if Dennis Minsky approves of course)... and to think Oprah considers a little town called Williamson, W.V. to be the little town in America that's done the best job fighting the AIDS epidemic since the 80s.  Shame on her.  She's obviously never been down at the beach any summer night right after closing time.   What other town can boast a decent supply of nasty used condoms on the beach for the kiddies and dogs to play with.  Mixed with the rotting seaweed, they help with the all important dune building too and feeding the birds.  Good stuff.    
8:38 pm edt 

Election Update

Someone  posted a few questions this morning. Its makes sense to answer them. First, Dan Wolf won the primary. So he will go on to face the Republican challenger for the State Senate on November 2.

As for me, the Assembly of Delegates has its election on November 2 and I am planning to run a sticker/write in campaign for that 2 year position.

Yesterday's ballot had a spot for a County Commissioner race because Bill Doherty's seat up for re-election. Bill is a Republican so his name was on the Republican  ballot and the Democratic ballot had no name because he has no challenger .

County Government is a little odd that way. The Assembly offices are non-partisan so there are no primaries.

The 3 County Commissioners are partisan races/offices  so that position appears on the primary ballot.

The Assembly race is town by town. Each town chooses one Delegate.
The county commissioners, on the other hand, have a county wide vote. There are  3 County Commissioners. Currently, they are  Sheila Lyons , Mary Pat Flynn  and Bill Doherty.

Sometimes this board gets confused with the Cape Cod Commissioners. That's a whole different beast. The Commission is the "planning board" if you will,  for the county. Austin Knight currently serves as our commissioner. That position is appointed by the Board of Selectmen.

I have changed my email address. It is now

Feel free to write and ask any questions. It didn't feel right to me to use the blog as a campaign platform, so i haven't written anything about this race. But it is an important race and i'd be happy to talk to anyone about it that is interested.

8:36 pm edt 

Provincetown's Secret Dark Side

The article in todays Banner comes as no surprise. The third defacing of Court
Street public rest room. On the beach from Court st to the boatyard has a very
long history of being a sexual late night playground. men  walk the beach in
search of sex. For many years the police responded to complaints from beach side
property owners complaing about sexual activity on their porches and out side
there bedroom windows on the beach. these tresspassers would even unscrew light
bulbs from the boatyard lighting and other property owners.
  The police made many arrests then. However pressure from town officials, and
others caused police enforcement of this area to stop.
   All anyone has to do is take a walk from the Court st landing, to the
boatyard at 1am and you will see what goes on there.
  This is a story that needs to be told..  Provincetowns beaches at night. A
walk on the Dark Side.
10:32 am edt 

Re: Zoning Matters

I've been in the neighborhood long enough to
notice the problem (well over 10 years) but didn't get a response when I
complained the regular route. When I heard this online forum was available I
went to the library and posted it.

With your twisted logic if nobody complains or asks the town to enforce the
regulations then an illegal operation should be allowed to continue... is that
your position?  I bet the cops would love to hear that argument regarding a drug

Age and time in the neighborhood is irrelevant.  When I did research on the
neighborhood there was no listing at town hall of an illegal and dangerous
operation being run out of a private home in a residential neighborhood...go

Good luck using that ill-logic to defend yourself further.
10:29 am edt 

Retirement Benefits Are Unsustainable Here Too

TRENTON, N.J.  The security guards at the headquarters of New Jersey's pension
fund have never seen anything like it before: lines of public employees
extending out the door and into the street.

Day after day, workers come in droves to apply for retirement. They often line
up before dawn.

The rush has been set off in part by Republican Gov. Chris Christie's campaign
in this cash-strapped state to make government employment  and retirement  less

Since 2008, New Jersey and at least 19 other states from Wyoming to Rhode Island
have rolled back pension benefits or seriously considered doing do  and not just
for new hires, but for current employees and people already retired.
10:26 am edt 

Please, Enough of Dennis the Menace Minsky

could you please remove the link to this man, so inauthentic, so un-involve with
any real conservation issues. Frogs jump for their life when this man appears.

Please remove the link to this disaster who sits on our conservation board. Next
thing, you'll be posting interviews with Mark Phillips.

Enough is enough. Erase him from the blog, please.
10:24 am edt 

Just Amazing. What is On Town Hall Web Sites?

The next vacation days when these town employees who hardly put in a full work
week will get another vacation. Just take a look. That is what dominates the web
site. TOWN 

This is disgusting. That is not OUR priority. Really. How gauche. You guys just
amaze me. Do you thing we are all stupid or distracted? Please, we just want a
fair days's work for a fair day's pay. But you are neurotically focused on your
day schedule and your vacation days.

I am disgusted.
10:23 am edt 

Bravo to Show Girls Last NIght!

Bravo to Ryan Landry. The man is a genius. He did a fabulous job and so did all
the winers of this season's winners. congratulations to all. What a fabulous

To all little pig head winners---thank you for a great season. Thank you for
adding so much to this little town.
You are great and so talented. You too Astrid. You did a great work all summer.
Cheers to you and the other sock monkey team!

10:21 am edt 

What Did Cheryl Andrews Do?

Was there any write-in? Did she try to capture this seat? I'm confused. I saw no
write-in effort. Were there any people trying to have us all write her name in?

Just didn't see this. Does anyone know?
10:20 am edt 

Does Anyone KNow Who Won Tonight?

Is it Dan Wolff or Sheila Lyons? Does anyone know?

10:19 am edt 

Re: Note to the Alden St. Taxi Poster

I posted about the taxis being parked at the rear of the property, on cemetery
land, about a year ago.                                                                              
I agree keep the issue alive. It is one thing to have a pre-existing
non-conforming commercial use in the neighborhood. But when the use did not
pre-exist the zoning bylaw, and especially when the use is being expanded with
the owner buying out other cab companies and creating new brands, it is a
problem. Fair is fair.

There are under utilized spaces that would make a good home for this business.
Fay's off Shankpainter would be an ideal central location, legally license able
and it is for sale.

If you haven't seen it you should check out the video about Mercedes Cab on You
Tube. It'll make your blood boil. Just go to Google, videos, and search Mercedes
Cab. Webmaster frowns on links.  
10:17 am edt 

Tuesday, September 14, 2010

Drugs and Ptown are no Strangers

As pre-teens with pigtails and kneesocks, we used to smoke a joint as we walked down Comm'l St. on the way to school in the morning.  Pretty much everyone who grew up here could write a tell-all book.  Coke on a restaurant kitchen counter, that's nothing. Forget the kitchen staff.  How about we write a tell all book about the restaurant owners (some still in business in town) who ran two tapes in the registers or no tapes at all.  Now that would be interesting.    
10:32 am edt 

Re: Note to Alden Street
I'm sad to see that this blogger feels that in the case of the school board committee member, that "innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply in Provincetown. As they always say "the grand jury can indict a ham sandwich". Maybe that is what happened here!!!!
8:47 am edt 

Alden Street Taxi Jiffy Lube

Where do they put all of the oil that they drain from the vehicles being serviced there?

Whoa! You think it is only one person complaining about the Alden Street taxi Service Station? Ask anyone who uses that street.

We talked about it among ourselves--until someone mentioned it on the blog. It is an unofficial Jiffy Lube and service station-it only needs the gas pumps to be a full service gas station.
8:41 am edt 

Front Page Cape Cod Times Drug Stories

Hint to the reporters: talk to the low people on the totem pole: busboys, cleaners etc. When I worked at a restaurant as a busboy, I was a peon so the cooks ignored me and snorted their coke through a straw from the counter while I was busing dishes.

I never told anyone. Same with the kid who told me that he smoked with his father here in town--Saving it all for my book when I move from here.
8:40 am edt 

Front Page Drug Stories

People who grew up here tell me that they were knew about pot in the 9th grade in the 70's. Kids here smoke with their parents.

A number of people in Provincetown who own businesses got their start with their drug money. Some have been arrested in the past--and now they have an empire: multiple restaurants, grand homes (plural) guest houses etc.

Plus, so many people who used drugs died here--but heart failure or some other excuse was stated--not drug use. Remember Rosies and the stories of the fishing fleet then? Guys snorting coke in the foc'astle Need I say more? Now these folks are grandparents.
8:39 am edt 

Alden Street Taxi Warehouse
Lets hope that people decline to use the taxi warehouse that usurped Alden Street. It creates a traffic jam at the intersection of Cemetery road and Alden Street. They flaunt parking their cars on Alden Street and then stand talking to the driver and won't move. Cars, workers talking with their car doors open--they act like Alden Street is their own private parking lot.
6:44 am edt 

Re: Truro

I Like Driving By Truro and Eating in Wellfleet Restaurants But-----
I am not in the least interested in Truro nor Wellfleet politics. It is really, really local and outside my interest. I care about what is happening in Provincetown but I don't care about the inside political drama of Truro.

Truro should start its own blog if residents want to talk Truro. For me, it's boring.

In the Banner, I never read Truro or WEllfleet stories unless its exceptional. The Banner gets ad monies from expanding its base but I for one care nothing about the political in's and out's of these towns. Even the obits of WEllfleet residents mean little.
4:30 am edt 

Re: Just Not Interested in Truro Politics

Well I am. I know two members of Truro BOS pretty well and I call a Wellfleet Selectmen good friend. Truro Town Hall is a 12 minute drive from us, Wellfleet is 25 minutes, going the speed limit. No wonder region wide services such as schools, police and fire is such a third rail issue here. Oh right, you don't know what the third rail is, having never crossed the bridge.  
12:52 am edt 

Note to the Alden St. Taxi Poster
I don't know how long you have been bothered by this mess but it is not a new problem. Taxi's have been parked and stored in that location for more than 15 years. This is one of those local idiots delight. Every winter the previous owner would jam the street and property full of unregistered, oil leaking wrecks. Since the current owner is also blessed with having been born here I guess it will never change. As much as I'm inconvienced by the illegally parked vehicles I am even more dissgusted by the Entitalment of the taxi company owner.
I salute you for not giving up. That's what happens here you know...nothing changes and people just give up,move away or die. Seriously, if you have the the right relatives and enough money etc. Grassy is a good example, everyone knows he never lived in that apartment in the winter before. He's been a Truro resident forever...but it doesn't matter at all cause since Maryjo quit we needed to have a Local (hetrosexual) on the board to protect the likes of the Taxi Owner.
Ohyea, here's another...What other School Board, anywhere in the Universe would keep a school board member who was accused of child molestation over 6 months ago? Anyplace else he would have been forced to resign his seat...but the elected official in question was born here and the kid who accused him wasn't.
So hang in there, call the cops eveyday (it won't help)or maybe someone outside about the leaking oil and gas but I won't hold my breath and you shouldn't either.
12:50 am edt 

Monday, September 13, 2010

Re: Dennis Minsky Interview

Good grief.  2 minutes into the Dennis Minsky interview and I had to grab my head to stop it from spinning.  He proclaims the "primary function" of the ConsCom is to preserve wetlands and dunes and resource areas.  Then why and how on earth were modular buildings allowed to be stuck in sand within the protected buffer zone of a wetland, the "off limit" area?  Why and how on earth did the Cons Com stand by and allow a mature, established dune abutting a wetland, bulldozed, dug out with root exposed trees lining the top and all vegetation stripped?  What happened on Bangs St. directly contradicts everything he says.  It makes NO SENSE that this was allowed by his own proclamation.  An explanation by these people justifying their approvals should be DEMANDED.  Something is very wrong here.  Sorry dead horse, Mr. Minsky revived you.    
1:19 pm edt 


Since PAAM is hooked up to the sewer, they are paying the
betterment , water inflow and waste outflow. It's not cheap.
They did make a deal with the devil in order to save a tree,
but I don't think they realized the cost of maintaining the restrooms.
Have another fund raiser.
10:29 am edt 

Re: Cape Cod School of Art

Well if you guys want to get back to basics with the art community here in Town, you need to look at what Hilda Neilly is doing. She and a few others are trying to start up the Cape Cod School of Art again. This time they want it to be in the true tradition of what it was when Hawthorn ran it. Very basic, open, easy going and dedicated to the artist, not the donors. There was an article in the Banner a week or two ago, go have a look and give them some help.

A Rat In The Basement
10:03 am edt 

Only in Provincetown could we two men see Betty Buckly or Naked boys singing and then icons Lady GaGa and Tina Turner one night, go to a lavish brunch the next morning at Fanizzi's and then drive to Truro to walk the ocean shoreline and then along a woodland path through a pitch pine Savanna to sit on a hill covered with a rare heath which exits no place else in the universe except our own little section of the world and then gaze out over a marsh and a hanging valley to the bay beyond; all the while watching warblers darting through the tress and listening to the call of a rail in the reeds--It is all PRICELESS--And all in our own back yard as we celebrate living here going on 35 years.
9:56 am edt 


Couldn't some public fund assist with the cost of the PAAM rest rooms? Just like public funds pay for the other public rest rooms around town. What is wrong with that? Are we not talking about a simple infrastructure for residents and tourists alike? For goodness sake why do we have to engage in a bitter battle over everything? I slip into the public rest room in the center of town now and then and I am glad it is there.  Sure $300. seems petty but maybe the museum needs to carefully allocated those funds. Do you think Chris McCarthy really wants to talk about $300. any more than you want to listen to it? Museums all over the world are cash strapped and suffer to make ends meet. Give them a break.
9:53 am edt 

Congratulations to all of the Swim for Lifers!
(or is it Swimmers for Life?)

Either way KUDOS to you all.
6:41 am edt 


I knew when the art association put on that new addition. (that is so out of character for the neighborhood) That things were only going to go downhill for the local artists. Imagine a young artist going into the art  association to use the restroom and get inspired with others work, only to find that he/she are turned away because they had no money. And as far as putting in pay toilets, the town voted years ago to ban pay toilets. Thank you Barbara Rushmore. Our tax dollars should not go to any non-town owned building, especialy for toilet paper. The nerve of chris mccarthy.
6:40 am edt 

Sunday, September 12, 2010

Sorry Again, But What is Really Happening in Truro?

What should grab our attention?

Provincetown is surely small. But you are even smaller and your concerns are even more intimate to your own concerns. But they are not ours.

I'm glad you are Truro and am glad for those who live there. But your interests in local politics are just not ours. We don't know your selectmen, we don't know your boards. That just is what is--sad as that maight be.

Sorry again, but that is true. You help me clarify differences I never think about. WE are here and you are there.
11:43 pm edt 

Sorry, But It's Too Provincial in Truro

We Don't know What's Happening as we Don't know Eastham and Wellfleet

We are not the Banner. This blog is focused on Provincetown. We have our isues, our concerns and that is what is our focus. It is us as a community. Sometimes it's not pretty; sometimes, it's insular. But that is who we are and what drives us. We have a passion for Provincetown. sorry, but it doesn't edge out to Truro politics nor Eastham politics.

C'est la vie!
11:40 pm edt 

Swim For Life

My husband and I attended the Swim for Life yesterday and waited for the last swimmer to arrive. Congratulations to the swimmers and to all who participated. I would also like to congratulate my daughter who participated on her paddle board standing up the entire way without ever falling off. First she had to paddle over to the Point (the starting point) and then back again to the finish line(the Boatslip).  There was a little bit of a current, the water was a little choppy and the winds were against them but they all made it in. Our Congratulations to you all!

Maxine and Joe Notaro
10:39 pm edt 


The AA of Ptown no longer promotes artistry in the true sense. Time for a change.  Reflective of the basic downfall of Ptown's old character, the beachcomber club (not the one in Welfleet, the one near the old Flagship), Frank Schaefer, Frank Corbin, Joe Burke, etc.  all legends.  These people knew how to savor life and Provincetown, in summer and IN WINTER.  Diehards and true blues. What is happening now with toilet paper is such a sad statement on this town.  So sad.  
10:37 pm edt 

Re: Just Not Interested in Truro Politics
How provincial. We should be interested in our closest neighbors. Plus we need some new topics. How many times can we beat the dead horses of Couture, Malone and Bangs St.?

New Dirt
10:35 pm edt 

Art Assoc. - Not really

I agree totally.  Sal and Josephine Del Deo ran the BEST youth art workshop at what is now the bleak shadow of the Art Association.  Show up at the big door with a smock and a quarter and get to work...IT WAS THE BEST!!!  Where has this "naked and true" inspiration gone.  To money hungry idiots.   THANK YOU MR. AND MRS. DEL DEO (Romolo and Giovanni too), you truly inspired (and still do).
6:33 pm edt 

New Art Association

We need to start another arts organization that promotes and focuses on new and up and coming local artists that are committed to their art. I consider myself an artist but see very little opportunity for un-established people like myself here in Provincetown. Maybe it's time to start another art association, one for the people.
5:37 pm edt 

Bette Buckely: A Class Act
Fabulous performance. What a great evening. So glad she is here in town. Such a voice, such an entertainer. Bravo!
12:37 pm edt 

Maybe Ted Malone Can Fund the Toilet Paper for PAAM
Malone can use a few dollars from the $900,000 CPA funds and help Chris McCarthy keep toilet paper in the PAAM restrooms. Then PAAM can uphold its agreement with the town and allow tourists to use the restrooms.

Interesting post on how Robyn Watson would feel. I like bringing it back to full time painters, isntead of Sunday painters and not only centered on expensive fund raisers. Interesting note.
12:36 pm edt 

Remembrance of Things Past
Betty Buckley

A-betty buckley

at the

Crown & Anchor

Great Show Betty!

Thanks for sharing your private moments
We had a great lunch at Pepe's

12:16 pm edt 

The Town Was Crazily Busy Yesterday
So much going on. The antique cars, Swim for Life, the Regatta and many other private parties and get togethers.

It's been a great entertaining summer and now fall. Let the music continue and the dancing and sailing go on and on.
Isn't Provincetown a fun place to live in? It is never boring but always enjoyable and fun.
11:59 am edt 

Just Not Interested in Truro Politics

We are both small towns and our concerns focus on our towns and its own politics. I don't know Pam Nolan and I don't care to know the issues. I am focused on Sharon Lynn and what happenes here. Too much on Truro. Time for Truro to Start its own blog. Then blog on my friends. But otherwise---it's not too interesting to read. In Provincetown, we are just not involved in your politics.
11:57 am edt 

Re: Truro Town Administrator

She's done very well from what I've seen. Seems this recent event happened on the asst.TA watch. Now the TA is in a tough situation but she has to do something, right? No matter what she does, someone is unhappy about her decision to punish or not. Seems like regardless or what she does, some aren't happy, right selectmen?

And as far as Plymouth, from whats been batted around, she was allegedly bought out of her contract because she was doing too good of a job, cutting the budget where it had to be cut and the unions went nuts so the selectmen (once again) decided it best to part ways.

Selectmen are great, no?
11:14 am edt 

Re: Does Anyone Know Why Pam Nolan Left the Employ of Plymouth?

Yes, does anyone know?  We've ripped apart everyone in Ptown, let's start with public officials in Truro.
11:12 am edt 

Re: Truro? Lets Keep This For Provincetown Only!
Thats crazy! The two towns are locked arm in arm and the politics of one blends into the politics of the other. Who do you think negotiated the final lease with the water wells in Truro? How about the link between water uconsumption and development in Provincetown? That means Truro has control somewhat over how Provincetown is developed! Of course the two are similar. And the same brains are behind whats happening to the harbormaster.

And for one final time, Grassy doesn't live in Truro. His son, wife and children live in the house he built in Truro and Grasy is living at the boatyard in the condo. Wake up!!
11:11 am edt 

Who is the selectman that lives in Truro so I don't vote for him? Hope your not talking about Grassy again.
8:09 am edt 

Saturday, September 11, 2010

Re: Truro? Lets Keep This For Provincetown Only!
I beg to differ. We really are one community. We draw our water from Truro. Many of our workers live in Truro. Many of our business owners live in Truro but vote here. In fact one of Provincetown's Selectmen lives in Truro.

We Are One  
7:13 pm edt 

Truro Town Administrator

Does anyone know why Pam Nolan left the employ of Plymouth?
7:11 pm edt 

Truro Town Administrator

While we consider voting out certain Truro Selectpeople,we have a more immediate problem. Pam Nolans contract needs not to be renewed. We had a very competent Ass't Town Administrator taking over for over 6 months when Pam Nolan was on medical leave. This absence proved the Town can do without her. She continues to duck stressful situations and exhibits poor judgement as she tries to divine the wishes of certain Selectpeople. She has no true morale compass. Let the search begin. Pamet "Deep Throat" will volunteer to be on the search committee.
5:22 pm edt 

The manipulations to get the sewer connection was worthy of Washington.  They agreed to public access and should pay for the maintenance and be grateful.  Instead of serving the needs of the few who can pay for their fancy parties they should rememeber it was a community organization started by and for artists not their wealthy donors and sunday painters.  Bring it back to the old days! Robyn Watson would be rolling in her grave with laughter at the folly of it all.
5:21 pm edt 


How can we freely give $900K for affordable housing to a
for profit developer and refuse to assist the cost to offer
paper products to a non profit entity?  

Penny Wise And Pound Foolish
12:33 pm edt 

Re: Route 6

Closing Rt 6 on Sunday is due to the annual Eastham Parade.
12:32 pm edt 

To the post that said they should have pay toilets for the use of PAPER PRODUCTS now, give us a break.  Maybe you should have people PAY PER FLUSH also!
Not renewing my membership
12:31 pm edt 

Re: Route 6

Route 6 is closing because of the Windmill Weekend Parade.
12:31 pm edt 

Re: Truro Selectmen
Palmers term isn't up till 2013 along with Golden and Hartman and Worthington are up in 2012. Lucy is the next selectman to run this coming spring. The elections are always the "go to " time to change but pressure on these people can make them change now. Two faced people are not needed in town government. Elections are good but pressure and public outcry at meetings are better.
12:47 am edt 

Bangs Street

Went down Bangs St. today.  Where I used to ride down and drop my bike
was dirt and mud and marked out parking spaces and ugly plastic pipes with
ugly buildings and a metal wall.  I used to ride down here to pick blueberries,
wildflowers and silver dollars.  I think it's time to try to move.
12:46 am edt 


I did hear that PAAM  agreed to allow the use of its facilities by civil members of the public, in order to save a beautiful tree. PAAM should be commended for that, and all the work they do which benefits the town. I do not recall that PAAM in this deal ever offered paper products as part of the deal. The devil is in the details. If the general public wants these paper products that were never offered by PAAM, the town should pay for them. It is only fair.
12:44 am edt 

Re: Truro

Truro, Truro, Truro? Lets keep this for Provincetown only!
12:42 am edt 

Re: Truro

It's fairly pathetic when you have to solicit candidates for Town Selectmen.  I'd suggest moving while the getting is almost still good.
12:41 am edt 

The PAAM will soon follow in the footsteps of Chrysler Museum and then we can convert the building to affordable housing or a police station.
12:40 am edt 

Route 6 Closing?

Does anyone know why Rt. 6 will be closed on Sunday starting at 1:00 pm?
I noticed some signs on my way down on Wednesday night in Eastham... any
info would be great as I need to travel up cape on Sunday. Thanks, PJ
12:39 am edt 

Re: "Alden St. - Corn on the Cob"

I would like to respond to the posting of 9/08 titled" Alden St. - Corn on the Cob"

I do not believe the comparison to taxis on commercial street is relevant because
@ Alden St is a residential NOT commercial street
@the taxi's and other vehicles that we needed to drive around were NOT picking up or discharging passengers; they were illegally parked--rite under a NO PARKING ANY TIME sign
@the section of Alden st is SUPPOSED to be a 2 way street--in order to drive around these illegally parked vehicles one needs to drive into a lane of potentially oncoming traffic
@the tacit permission to park there is not afforded to others or to those of us who must deal with limited parking on Standish St--park even briefly in a no parking spot there  and you are JUSTIFIABLY quickly ticketed
@there is no targeting going on--just an observation that the same rules should apply to all

I would have posted my response sooner but with seasonal employees leaving have been working double shift...since today is my first day off I will now follow one piece of your advice; I will head to the beach "say a prayer and look up at the sky".

Stop complaining about the cabs there.  It's no different than waiting
your turn to drive around them than in any other part of town... esp to
HAVING to drive down Commercial St. if you're lucky enough to live on
that street during tea dance.  Do you propose we stop businesses from
doing well because it creates traffic jams?  Come on... say a prayer while
you "wait" or find something else to think about such as simply looking up
in the sky for a few seconds... inhale and then release!
12:36 am edt 

The rest of the story...this whole thing started with someone walking around back and taking a dump on some packages to be mailed out. If that had happened to me I think I would have taken the sign down and told people to go elsewhere too...if you are upset about the stand PAAM has taken think about how you would like it if someone took a dump on your back porch!

Yes I agree that PAAM should be able to pay for toilet paper but a better idea for PAAM would be to put in pay toilets to pay for it! Nothing in the agreement says they cant do that so I say if you wanna pee or poop you have to pay! :)
12:29 am edt 

Truro Post Office

Do these selectmen have an alibi for last night when the Truro Center Post
Office was broken into and robbed?

Just askin.
12:25 am edt 

Friday, September 10, 2010

Truro Selectmen

I am looking for candidates to run against Selectmen Palmer and Worthington when they next stand for election. The ballot box is the way to tidy up the mess. Truro voters do have a memory. It is past time to clean up "The Dark Side".
8:39 am edt 

Re: Housing

It isn't "strange" at all that some people slide right past others who wait for housing.  It's about who you know, who you are.  WHO YOU KNOW decides how much you can get away with.  Always has, always will.  If someone who actually deserves something gets it, that's only the bone thrown to shut people up and make the system appear fair when someone gets a hair raised and questions it. Rich developers love it here, it's the perfect feeding ground... while they themselves reside in lovely manses "out of town".  Developers run the town, not your town officials.  They have the money and while money can't buy love, it can buy building approvals.  
8:26 am edt 

Re: Truro Harbormaster
I hope the harbormaster sues them. Its not just wrong, its really really dumb. Its collusion. The 3 should resign. How sad for Truro.

I didn't know Truro had a harbor.
8:19 am edt 

Truro Harbormaster

Hats off to Selectmen Lucey and Golden for keeping an open mind about the current mess. It now looks as if Curtis Hartman will be the swing vote On Sep 21st. Maybe he can lose his agenda long enough to give the issue a fair and unbiased read. Signed Pamet "Deep Throat".
8:18 am edt 


The very idea of PAAM expecting the town to chip in for toilet paper is insane. As a budding artist, I joined PAAM years ago and what have I gotten in exchange for my annual membership dues? Pricey classes that are conducted on weekdays so that only people without the inconvenience of having a job can attend. The opportunity to participate in shows that everyone knows are unfairly judged by jurors who chose only work by friends. Very few shows and activities in the off season when only year rounders are in town.

And constant solicitations in the mail to donate more money! Why? So they can continue to throw lavish cocktail parties with chamber music for the wealthy?

Sure PAAM, the town will pay for the toilet paper.

I think this is the year I don't renew my membership.
8:17 am edt 

Did I read they have a budget of over one million $ and they want the town to pay $300 to offset toilet paper?  Give me a break.

They should be fined for removal of town property (the street sign) instructing people of the public restrooms.  If they had a problem with it's location they should have called the DPW to move it. They had no right to remove it themselves.
12:44 am edt 

All I see is out of towners....  Let's do away with the housing...  it is only costing taxpayers money...  Their families certainly are not benefiting from it.  There are many town , born raised citizens (young and old) looking for housing and have been told..  Oh, No your on a long list.  But yet someone comes here from LA and they slide right in...  STRANGE !
12:42 am edt 


So nice that we have news from Truro. I was upset to read that Mr. Francis is somehow guilty. Having had contact with both men in question I have no doubt that Mr. Francis was the victim of                  bully tactics. As for the Sargent and the Selectman, so many residents know about it but what can you do?
I find both the           and the           to be the most dangerous duo. They are both dumb as stumps and have used scare tactics too long.
12:41 am edt 

Truro & Provincetown

Conflicts of interest and ethics violations are a normal part of town process in Provincetown.  Not so sure about Truro but it must be the same. Go yell it from a mountain, the results will be the same as reporting it to the State.  No one really cares.  It's gone on for years and will go on for years to come.  The old boy network is too strong to crumble from complaints.  Something can be so wrong and so unfair and so illegal it's unfathomable yet it happens without the blink of an eye.  Who really cares enough to do something serious about it.  No one, that's who.  Alot of bark, no bite. Corruption and ethics violations are major ingredients in the politics of these 2 towns and that's not about to stop.  Or some of your town officials and their sugar daddys would already be incarcerated but instead they laugh at the simpletons they rule who let it go on. Don't flatter yourselves, your opinions don't really matter to them or anyone at State level for that matter. ! 
Seen nothing to the contrary yet.
12:37 am edt 

Re: Truro - What a Mess

What are you talking about? Missing cars? Town cars? ????

And since when can't the moderator represent anyone she or he chooses to? Being a lawyer, don't you think she went to the ethics commission at the state to find out first?

Truro selectmen aren't the greatest but I think you'll need more facts before you make claims like you do. Or maybe it's personal........
12:34 am edt 

Three Together?
If this is true, there must be witnesses to this scene. Heresay and conjecture don't get it done. Was this after the meeting Tuesday night? Times and witnesses are needed. Otherwise, nothing can be done. It would be right and fair for whoever saw these three alegedly together, especially after the meeting and even more especially if they were discussing the issue, to bring the matter forward to Town Hall or the next selectmens meeting where the final decision on the appeal will be made. Something like that is important and fairness is needed. Don't wait.
12:30 am edt 

Thursday, September 9, 2010

PAAM & Sewer System

Not one red cent should go to PAAM, they made a deal to provide restrooms for the public. TP and cleaning is part of the deal. I don't want my hard earned taxes going to that ugly building. Run by a nasty person.
11:45 pm edt 

Truro Harbor Master-

The next step in the complaint process is to The State Ethics Commission. Pamet "Deep Throat" has it on good authority that a number of complaints have already been filed against a Truro Selectman. Wonder if that Selectperson will be able to continue to sit on this matter, I think not. The dark side of Truro Government will come to light and the public has the right to know. Stay tuned!    
6:41 pm edt 

Truro Board of Selectmen

If someone can prove that 3 Truro selectmen were discussing this harbormaster case outside of a meeting, i hope the harbormaster sues them. Its not just wrong, its really really dumb. Its collusion. The 3 should resign. How sad for Truro.
6:39 pm edt 

PAAM and the Tree

PAAM was not a red dot. PAAM was not ever planned to be on the sewer. But they did need to put in a new septic system and the plan showed they would need to remove a large tree.
They didn't want to remove the tree  so they wrote up an article for town meeting to beg everyone to vote to allow them on the sewer even though they had room for a Title V.
The made a deal with the devil. They begged to be on the sewer but had to agree to allow a public restroom as part of the deal. They used gallons of the sewer that other properties might have been able to use. So, they got a special deal. They did it by agreeing to provide a public service.
6:37 pm edt 

Truro - What a Mess

2:09 pm edt 

Sounds like Little Provincetown has finally carried over their ways.
9:55 am edt 


Why did they make that deal? They were a red dot property, the sewer
line was already there. I think the town should contribute towards the cost
of TP if it continues to be a pubic restroom.
9:27 am edt 

Well, Sharon Glad Your Back
Hope you will still be with us. I know, none of know the future.
8:59 am edt 

Yes, interview Dennis the Menace Minsky. And what do you get? Depends on who last spoke to him.

Sorry to say he has no backbone, no solid stance. He is as loose as the dunes being destroyed under his chairmanship.

Why? I don't know. Is he         ? Perhaps. If not, he wants to be liked too much. Still, the end result is sadly the same.
8:58 am edt 

Truro Harbor Master- 3rd installment-

As a result of the effectiveness of your PACC we will form a Truro Association of Concerned Citizens. It shall be open to our sister Town to the North.

Back to the current debacle.Some 50 citizens turned out to support our Harbor Master, Joe Francis. Selectmans procedures tried to reduce our numbers by not putting this Appeal on the Selectmans agenda . We were smarter than this. Kevin Mullaney of The Banner recorded the session. His reporting in todays Banner was accurate.

Joes' atty, Monica Kraft made a monkey of Town Administrator and Selectman Gary Palmer. Both were shown not to   understand any Town officials right to self defense. Costa was definitely threatening bodily injury to Joe Francis. Only thru extreme self-control did Joe keep this incident from one of bodily injury.

If Joe has to go to"Anger Management" counselling, I may have to go also! Signed- Pamet "Deep Throat".
8:56 am edt 

Harbormaster Truro-

Well gee, who could that be? I don't recall any of the selectmen in Truro being gay,    soooooooo?  

Oh, I know, I know!!!

The final outcome of the hearing is suppose to be scheduled for their next meeting. This should be very interesting.
8:53 am edt 

Truro Harbormaster-2nd Installment-

Recently 3 of our Truro Selectpeople were seen drinking at The Whitman House. So what? After a few drinks they were heard discussing the Truro Harbor Master/ Sgt. Costa matter. All 3 Selectpeople agreed that Joe Francis,Harbor Master, needed to be punished.
First of all it was a violation of "The Open Meeting Law"(a majority of our 5 Selectpeople), secondly a reprimand from the Truro Town Admistrator had not even been considered,                                                                                                                .

Since when do unpublished meetings with sensitive personnel matters get discussed in a pub?                                                                                                                                    

8:51 am edt 

Wednesday, September 8, 2010

Bangs Street

Hey Chitty, check in with the Silvas lately to see if their house foundation and patio have any new cracks?  Wouldn't touch this with a 50 foot pole.  
11:30 am edt 

Harbormaster Truro-

Your sister Town of Truro is not exempt from dysfunctional Selectman/Town Administrators.Last night the outrageous "Reprimand" given Truro Harbormaster Joe Francis was finally aired. To the surprise of no one 3 of the Truro Selectpeople had already made up their minds before hearing the legitimate Appeal made by the Harbormaster.Nobody had the nerve to challenge the inherit "conflict of interest" that one Selectperson had-i.e an intimate relationship with then Sgt. Costa. More to follow!
9:37 am edt 

Bangs Street

Only someone truly ignorant of the environment and quaintness of a quiet old private street would say Bangs St. was a dump made beautiful.  Putting shingles on these trailers is the same as putting earrings on a pig.  There is nothing beautiful about raping a dune and sticking a premade box into it.  Money is the only thing green here.    
8:59 am edt 

Anybody Have the Facts?
Whose idea is it to put up the AIDS memorial?

Who has the authority to give permission to use Town Hall as the location?

I want to be informed before I make comments.

8:34 am edt 

True Fact

A town worker applied for affordable housing and was told that he didn't make enough to apply to buy a unit and he made too much money to rent a unit. Meanwhile, he knew that people making big money lied and got in.

And, we all read in the newspaper a few years ago how others were awarded units--only to have them taken away when public outrage revealed that they came from property owning, well to do families.
8:31 am edt 

Ted, Give Back Our Money!

We want it back. You have not used it and there is nothing happening on the lot where you received big CPA bucks.

Give us back the money. You are a       and your affordable housing is a       as well. It's a way for you to give your own employees housing and benefits while the town falsely believes your lottery is fair and town residents who deserve affordable housing will receive it. But this is just deception and a joke on townies.

Give it back, Ted. Give us back our $900,000 where we can use it to better the town, buy land, and preserve historic buildings. We would even turn some older properties into affordable housing without destroying, as you have, our landscape and viewscape.

Give it back, Ted.
8:30 am edt 

Another housing issue:  how come a single person gets to have a 2 /3 bedroom unit?  When there are families out there that need that space and because of that, are still on a waiting list and have been??  Is anyone monitoring these matters?  Apparently not....
8:28 am edt 

Alden St. - Corn on the Cob

Stop complaining about the cabs there.  It's no different than waiting
your turn to drive around them than in any other part of town... esp to
HAVING to drive down Commercial St. if you're lucky enough to live on
that street during tea dance.  Do you propose we stop businesses from
doing well because it creates traffic jams?  Come on... say a prayer while
you "wait" or find something else to think about such as simply looking up
in the sky for a few seconds... inhale and then release!
8:26 am edt 

Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!  They took a dead end dump and made it beautiful.  An awesome feat! Way to beautify that dirt road!
8:25 am edt 

Early Morning Accident

You have got to be          me!?  Is that kid still on the volunteer fire dept AND did he really get into ANOTHER wreck?  If so, was anyone hurt?  
8:24 am edt 

Affordable Housing

Here we go again...enough with the pro/con Affordable Housing! If there has
been one topic above all else that has been done to death in Provincetown, i
t is the Holy Grail of political Correctness, Affordable Housing.

Anyone who writes in favor of More AF is either living under a rock or
New to town.
We have all been there, done that, enough. All that is Provincetown
Today is the result of ignorant/greedy Elected officials and deep pocket

Ted Malone is sitting on way too much $$$ of our Tax $$$ and laughing
all the way to the bank. Cass Benson etc. got even more of our Tax $$$
for the Roach Motel...they made so much $$$ they had to open a New bar
this year. Great tax shelter for them, yet Another Bar for Provincetown, how
does that help the Taxpayer?

So enough with the AF topic...Ted will hang on to the $$$ till forced to
return/use it and that ain't happening.

Meanwhile the restrictions on the existing units has run out and the "Connected"
owners are able to sell at market rates.

So please, whoever it is who keeps your homework...between
Ted and Cass and Section 8 there are already Enough "affordable"
rentals...hundreds in fact, so many that they can't/won't be counted.

BTW, affordable housing doesn't pay the same property $$$ the rest of us many dirty little secrets...

Oh yea...No I don't think a Memorial on Town Hall property is approprate
just because so many sick people came here to die. We have a cemetary
filled with children who died of Small Pox, there is no stone to them. That
said, I Do think it will happen...that is the world we live in today.
It maybe beautiful but it's rotten to the core...Hell Town was alot more Fun.

I remain,

The ONLY Pebble on the Beach
8:22 am edt 

CPA Funds

Towns can NOT use CPA funds for seasonal housing.

8:19 am edt 

Affordable Housing

Just because your a Ptown resident does not give you the right over anybody else when state and federal funds are used for affordable housing. And just because someone has been on the housing needs list for any number of years, also doesn't give you more of a chance of getting housing. It all depends on many local, state and federal guide lines. Also most of the affordable housing in town so far is not all owned by Ted Malone. And yes many longtime Provincetown residents already live in affordable housing. And finally, not all affordable housing has to have a lottery. That only happens when certain public funds are used. Please don't lump all affordable housing together.
8:18 am edt 

Affordable Housing
So with all this talk against new housing being built with our cpa funds. Did anyone go to the cpc meeting today? I see that Ted Malone was to be there. Did anyone write letters to this board with the questions you bring up on this blog?
8:16 am edt 

Re: Early Morning Accident

Give me a break about the fire chief covering up the ladder truck accident.  I own a 2nd home in Provincetown and heard on the news about the accident at my home in Philly.  Hardly a cover up.  From my understanding the truck sat wrecked on Rte 6 for over 3 hours so the local and state police could investigate. The individual involved in the accident was then placed on leave from the department and was taken to court by the local authorities, where every week in the local paper people read about the ongoings of the case.  News broadcasts and papers around the country ran this story.  The volunteer dept, paramedics/emts of Provincetown are not an embarassment, and should be applauded for the work they do on their time for the citizens, and summer residents of the town.
8:14 am edt 


Helltown may be dead in your mind but I totally disagree with you. Provincetown is more fun & wild than any place I can think of in new england. Sex, drugs, booze and rock & roll. Long live helltown!
8:12 am edt 

Affordable Housing

If I needed affordable housing and had a chance to have it, but it was in Truro, I'd turn it down too! Provincetown is my home, not Truro. You rant and rave about outsiders getting all the Ptown housing, yet you want to know why Truro only got 4 applications for housing so far. Maybe you would be happier out in the rural woods where you need a car just to get your mail.
8:11 am edt 

Affordable Housing

What a laugh this anti affordable housing bloger is! The same negative blogging as in years past. They just can't face the fact that we need affordable housing. I bet       will start blogging again with his     . And by the way, I'm a long, longtime year round affordable housing tenant and have never even met the people or the developer you always rant on about.
8:10 am edt 

Affordable Housing

The only way to guarantee affordable housing for yourself in this country is to work your ass off, save every cent that you can and buy a residence with a mortgage that you can afford. Housing prices are expected to continue falling. The market is "correcting". Are people working towards the goal of home ownership or are they waiting for it to come to them? Some will, some won't, some can, some cannot.
The latest Banner article on the Shank Painter project was disheartening. How can anyone even consider eliminating the units that are needed the most? The lowest income units. Who wants to live out there anyway? It is sad.
8:08 am edt 

Tuesday, September 7, 2010

Town Meeting

A very appropriate subject: "bring back Helltown". I wish I knew what Helltown was? Just sounds like a lot of cheap fun.
11:10 pm edt 


Yeh, good luck being chosen for affordable housing...  I know people who have been waiting for 3 years already.  If Ptown residents are not going to have preference, I say stop it!  That's just crazy to put Ptown residents LAST !!!!!
4:44 pm edt 

Ahead of the Game

As an owner of a business - lodging - we experienced an extraordinary year, with September bookings ahead of the last 7 years also.  Wishing every business in our town, a very successful fall.
4:42 pm edt 

early Morning Accident

So rumor has it that the driver of the famed 2008 Provincetown Fire Truck crash was involved in an early morning accident a few days ago. I wonder if the fire chief will try to cover this one up like he tried to cover up the last one. It's a shame this town has such an embarrassing fire department.
4:42 pm edt 

Affordable Housing

For all you people still saying we need more affordable housing-how about responding to my previous post and explaining why, if there truly is such a need, there were only 4 applications for a 1 bedroom affordable unit in Truro?

Let's face facts, Helltown is dead and gone and has been for years now. It was fun while it lasted but is only a distant memory and will never be resurrected no matter how much affordable housing you build.
4:40 pm edt 

Rigged Operation: So Right

That's all the Ted Malone affordable housing development is. Look at who was "chosen" in the oh-so-fair- and oh-so-objective lottery that Ted Malone oversees and regulates! Rex McKinsey, Aj Allon, Monica and before Pam Parmagian. Notice any pattern? Oh, yes they all work for Ted Malone except for Rex McKinsey who lives with AJ.

Don't you just love this lottery. The real needy people, the real residents of Provincetown get selected! So fair. So properly executed!
4:38 pm edt 

Affordable Housing

There is absolutely NO NEED for new construction to provide "affordable" housing.  The system is riddled by inconsistencies.  Bangs St. is built, done deal.  Learn from it.  Hundreds more are coming.  The ad boasts "Semi-Detached".  When presented it wasn't "Semi-Detached".  They fought tooth and nail to show it was "Semi-Connected".  This makes town officials look like fools.      

"Townhouse, Semi-Detached - Provincetown, MA
New construction ... nestled at the end of quiet Bangs Street. This large home ... The complex has four town homes."

Permitted as 2 buildings.  Fools.  
4:36 pm edt 

Affordable Housing

I am totally against affordable housing that brings people to town to do nothing because of the lack of jobs. This philosophy is even dangerous. Yes, there are some people that now need affordable, but that's because so many less deserving have taken the units and many of them do go away for the winter which belies their need for it in the first place. What is not being developed, which we desperately need, is affordable seasonal rentals for the transient work staff. This however is not happening and the town must force developers to do just that because it is what we need.
4:34 pm edt 

Monday, September 6, 2010

Affordable Housing

You don't need a year round job to live in affordable housing. Who in town does? Like 90% of us, you have to budget. Just because the town does not have many year round jobs is no excuse not to build more affordable housing.
10:32 pm edt 

Labor Day is Over and Business Was Great:

I spoke to 9 retailers yesterday and 4 motels  guest houses today.   Everyone except one said the season was better than last year.   Everyone except one said they were pleased with what they made.  The lone exception was a gallery.
I know this was not scientific; nevertheless Provincetown pulled another excellent season out of a troubling economy.
9:40 pm edt 

It is a Ghost Town: Only 800 of Us Are Here in the Winter

Even with affordable housing, where would THEY work? They wouldn't. This is ridiculous. If you don't have jobs, you won't have people living here in the winter. Your so-called thinking is reversed. We do not need affordable housing Malone-style.  There are no jobs here. Face up to the reality. The rich leave in the winter. The older townies sold their properties. The summer workers are gone in winter. Even housing won't turn this around. Even the backers of affordable housing are in Fort Lauderdale, Vieques, San Miguel.

Time to say goodbye. If you can't afford to be here, say goodbye. It's a high-end resort town. It is South Beach. It is Key West. Try living in Greenfield. Be realistic. You can't afford to live here. Then just say goodbye.
9:38 pm edt 


The housing issue is a bunch of BS.. I know a couple who have been on the list for 1.5 years and keep being told their still on the list.  However, I know others who have come here from elsewhere and have gotten a place right away.  What happened to the people who are residence?  Don't they come first?  Apparently not.. That's why alot of people feel like this is a rigged operation.....

This is not the first couple it's happened to either....

I also know a couple who were told they needed to be homeless with their children before they could be considered..  That's real nice!  Who wants to support this?

NOT ME.....
9:35 pm edt 

"Stop Whinning About it Already"

Sounds like a vested interest. Yes and tomorrow there'll be fifty modular condo's lined up ready for installation, next door, or more appropriately on the annexed back door.
Bangs St Ext. will be resurrected, according to the developers needs, and the rest of the town desecrated. For the people who care and are not in anyone's pocket, wake up, this is the developers "modus operandi", get a foot in the door and the next thing you know they've taken the door. How many "doors" have they already taken? How many more are we willing to give? Our town officials are obviously in league with the developers. How many more obvious lies must we accept? Yes stop whinning and roll over. Make it easy, you appear to be begging for it, then perhaps you are. Sin Grasa.
9:33 pm edt 

Keep Helltown Alive

If the only way to bring in new and younger characters to live here, is to give a developer $900,000.00 to build housing that they can afford. I say it will be money well spent to keep Ptown the funky mix of people that we love it for. Yes to the poor, starving, up and coming. No to the rich, fat, NIMBY yuppies. Keep helltown alive, the way I remember it.
9:30 pm edt 

Duane Steele Interviewed?

Why?  Why is Duane Steele being interviewed?  What does he have an opinion on?  Is he going to talk about how he ran a local newspaper into the ground?  Maybe talk about how to buy a landmark restaurant and run that into the ground?  How to get fired from a cushy asst harbormaster's job?  Maybe he'll talk about fidelity in marriage.  Maybe he'll share his secret about how to tie a scarf correctly under a white beard so you can look like an old sea captain.

Why give this man a platform to speak about anything?

and the webmaster is friends with maryjo and duane so i know you won't even print this.
9:28 pm edt 

Affordable Housing

If you want more of a ghost town in the off season than we already have, just keep saying no to affordable housing being built! And if you know of any existing empty housing that wants to be made affordable, please - by all means let the proper boards in town know of them.
8:49 pm edt 

Affordable Housing
Any of the millions of Americans who are poor can move into affordable housing in Provincetown.
8:47 pm edt 

CPC Committee

I was at a CPC meeting where they did bring up time limits on funds not being used. If you have a question about this topic, why were you not at that meeting? Also you can go to the meeting tomorrow and ask for yourself.
8:46 pm edt 

Re: Bang Street

You are so right.  Too much WHINNING and FRUSTATION about Bangs St.  Or the troublemakers could just teach people like you how to spell or proofread their blogs to not sound like self rightious idiots.  Now, that would be much more poductive
8:43 pm edt 

Taxpayer Expense
People aren't against the affordable housing, but against taxpayer money being given to award winning, rich developers with vast real estate holdings. I say let them use their own money. Plus, they did something wrong because these award winners are being told that the state won't give them a penny.
8:41 pm edt 

Affordable Housing

I praise the people in town who are making affordable housing. At least it will give some of the people in this state a chance to live here like you do. There are way too many million dollar properties. As far as the naysayers on this blog who can't stand the idea of outsiders living here who were not born here, how would you be able to afford the real estate prices here if you wanted to live here and you were just starting out?
2:02 pm edt 

I Think People Are Asking Questions Because the CPC Monies Have Not Been Utilized

So they have a right to raise questions about monies and ask quesions about timeliness. I don't see them running aroun in circles. You may not want Ted Malone's name and projects brought up again but he is the one who gained, at our expense, $900,000 in CPA funds. How odd. Why would we give to a developer this much money? Few other towns would have ever done this. They would have laughed Ted Malone out of town. Ooops, some did.
1:49 pm edt 

Bangs St, Bangs St.... Let It go Already

Put as much effort into reading books or getting a law degree but stop whinning about it already.  harness all that frustation and energy toward something you can make a difference on!  
1:47 pm edt 

Most Active Supporter of Affordable Housing

Does anybody know who the single most active supporter of affordable housing has been these past years? None other than Michelle Couture thats who!

A Rat In The Basement
1:46 pm edt 

Re: How Can We be Spending More Than is in the avaiable CPA Coffers?

By law a CPA fund can borrow money against future receipts.  So, if Mr. Malone receives $800k and the town borrows the money to provide him those funds the CPA fund only needs to have enough money in their coffers to cover the debt repayment each year.  It's important to pay attention to the motion which will state 'borrow' if the money is to be borrowed.  If it doesn't state borrow then it is coming out of their existing funds.
1:45 pm edt 

Alden Street Log Jam

I just did my weekly Stop and Shop run; forgot it was Labor Day---busy busy.....but meanwhile someone should call Guiness because I believe a new record has been set---I had to wait my turn to drive around 5 vehicles ( a van 2 taxis a pick up and 2 cars ) in the no parking zone on Alden Street.  Besides the safety factor, how much revenue is the town losing because they are NOT being ticketed?  I know lets go after the tourists instead and make sure they never want to come back again.

Oh well, at least I got my corn on the cob!
1:43 pm edt 

Re: CPA Funds

"The selemen made the CPA fund the personal bank account of the rich developers"

When the CPA was created, it was not the selectmen who made the fund 80% Affordable Housing.

The majority of the selectmen voted to not give Malone the money for these last two projects as did the FinComm.

The selectmen were the ones who brought forward the change in the CPA percentages to allow the funds to b e used for town hall restoration.

So please clarify your statement about the selectmen MADE the CPA a personal bank account for developers.
1:41 pm edt 

Poor People Condensed

Look at Bangs street--imagine 50 units, 5 or6 building crammed into the depression by the gas pumps on shank painter rd.

Then across the street the other low income housing. Plenty of housing for women with dependent children and the homeless. Look at Hyannis and then look here..
11:09 am edt 

Affordable Housing
The CPA fund was created to preserve a community and its buuildings such as a town Hall and Library and old Maps etc inside the library.

The selemen made the CPA fund the personal bank account of the rich developers. Remember, these developers have money, they have developments all over the commonwealth. Just look at their offices and staff.

What do the homeowners have here? Two jobs so they can pay their taxes.
11:08 am edt 

Assembly of Delegates

This is the third time Dr Andrews has run for the Assembly of Delegates.  She lost last time to George Bryant and it wasn't even that close.  Question is: why is this position so important to her?  I'm not even sure what a delegate does.  County government seems to be pretty lame.

I am no fan of Dr Andrews, but having said that, she did get screwed on the ballot issue.  She asked the right questions to the person in charge while submitting her application and it can only be presumed the person responding was giving her correct information.  But that wasn't the case.  The responsible party was on vacation during a critical time of county government and the secretary was in charge.

The end result is she will be our next Delegate.  As long as she votes for herself and no one enters any one else as a write in, she wins.  I'm still concerned as to why she wants it so bad.  Maybe the Banner could do a story on what she hopes to accomplish as our next representative.
11:07 am edt 


Vote for whoever you want. we don't care. They are all ninnies.
9:13 am edt 

Housemate Legal Rights
What are the legal rights of someone who rents a room in your house? Do they have the same rights as someone who rents an apartment? Where can I find answers to these questions?
9:02 am edt 

If you were a taxpayer and someone is using the money that could go to the library instead of making that money come out of our pockets, you would be concerned. Hard working  year round residents who own property pay the bills in this town.
9:01 am edt 

Re: Ted Malone

Please correct me if I am wrong..I thought the money "given" to Ted Malone has 2 year expiration date on it. Use it or lose it?  If that is correct....It's back in the  spring or Teddy will scamble to do something.
9:00 am edt 

Sunday, September 5, 2010

Well Geez Louise!

If you think town government has done something illegal call the proper authorities like the FBI.
11:41 pm edt 

Circular Logic

This blog goes around in circles. For the past week someone on here keeps bringing up the same questions that have been answered in the past. Do we really have to hear about Ted Malone and the affordable housing money from the CPA again? Do your homework and you will find out exactly why things were voted in or not, its all public record. Just because you did not like something does not mean that the rest of the town thinks as you do about something.

11:40 pm edt 


So you are all a bunch of Monday morning quarterbacks here. My post on Shelia Lyons vs. Dan Wolf drew no response. I'm voting for Wolf. My post about the travesty of Cheryl Andrew's name being left off the ballot for the Assembly of Delegates delegates also drew no response. I'm voting for Cheryl.
11:38 pm edt 

Re: Math Skills
Two 2 family homes were permitted and built on the lot. Two structures each with two units. 2X2=4.

9:28 pm edt 

Bangs Street

On BS (Bangs St. not xxxx xxxx) Deferring to the "Bill of Particulars" presented to Sharon Lynn on the project and matters of public record, Atty. Lester Murphy stressed "preserving" the integrity of the dune and not building above the dune crest.  Then the appeal period went by and low and behold no appeals were filed.  Well, why would they?  Seems okay.  Then the appeal period was over and in came the bulldozers.  They clear cut and stripped the dune while Conservation looked on.  Then, at the pathetic abutters meeting, they said, Oops, sorry, too late, should have filed an appeal sooner, it's all legal.  Well, Geeze Louise, had we known you were lying to our faces, we would have.
9:26 pm edt 

Bangs Street

They kept saying 2 not 4, 2 not 4 and now they are 4 not 2.  Taxes on 4, utilities for 4, water for 4 and $600,000.00 sales price apiece for 4, yet zoning, planning, building and conservation regs. for 2?  What is up with this?  
9:23 pm edt 

Affordable Housing and CPA

I doubt anyone asking about affordable housing and/or CPA funds will get a
correct answer on this blog of teabaggers. Go right to the board meetings to
ask these questions.
9:21 pm edt 


Why are these developer/millionaires GIVEN one thin dime for anything?  They don't need help getting loans.  Like the town would lend me a quarter.  These users have made millions off this town and we still we GIVE them more money to build crap housing we don't need that they can sell to people who don't know better.  THIS IS A CRIME.  
9:20 pm edt 

Let's Get it Together People

We can't pass a bylaw the proper way if 200 people show up for town meeting... get a petition have it put on the warrant and show up for god sake. If all you want to do is gripe about things ...stock the room with people who feel the same as you... that's what Malone does and Rick Murry did the same thing. So I wish every voter here would show up and put an end to Malone and his raping us of money and land. SHOW UP FOR TOWN MEETING....get something on the warrant or stop griping about it. there should be at least 500 people at a town meeting and if that happens maybe we can put a sock in the BOS chairs mouth as well
9:13 pm edt 

CPA Money

AnMone can get any questions about CPA money, by going to their next meeting on Tuesday at 4:00 PM. Sept. 7
7:39 pm edt 

Bangs Street. Ext.

Yes I know that my math skills are lacking and the subject should have been laid to rest. For one last time could someone please explain to me? And correct me if I'm wrong.
When this project was proposed to the appropriate boards the plans showed two units. The four modular structures were brought in. There was a public meeting with the Town Manager, Town Attorney, and, at least, the head of the Building Committee where the officials present adamantly insisted that the four units were two structures. Now they are being sold as four separate units. Is this legal? Is this ethical? Does this whole issue stink?
Just the simple math, not counting the appropriation of Bangs St. Ext., the environmental damage, the congestion problems, the power company issues, etc. Please don't say, "Why didn't you complain". Individuals complained, petitions were presented. The Town Attorney clearly stated that any action could have been prevented through litigation although at the point that this advise was given it was too late for litigation. Is this the Town of Provincetown, in the State of Massachusetts, in the USA, on the planet Earth? I don't know!
7:37 pm edt 

To Correct You: Malone was Given $900,000 in CPA Funds
He was "given" $150,000 for the Clem & Ursies' apartments and then he was also and additionally "given" $800,000 for the Nelson Avenue units. Strange, isn't it?

Just as Gerry Anathan and Cass Benson were "given" $750,000 for the Bates Motel units that actually cost the town, with interest on this amount, $1.2 million.

Just try to figure out how much in interst the $900,000 will also cost the town. Obviously, it will be a gift of more than $1.5 million to Ted Malone. Is it because he has a pretty face? Since he doesn't, why are we doing this?

Whose pulling whose strings? Don't speak up at the same time those of you in Town Hall Trailers. But you are the "fixers" for Malone as you were the "fixers" for Gerry Anatham and Cass Benson.
7:32 pm edt 


To answer a previous blogger Ted Malone was given 150 thousand for the building on shankpainter and 800 thousand for race point project that equals 950 thousand and still nothing has been done to either of them.... Shankpainter was supposed to be ready by lat fall and still nothing
4:54 pm edt 

I thought the Bangs Street Ext. housing was two units? Did Earl knock down the stick?
4:52 pm edt 

CPA Funds

800k or 950k, what difference does it make, its still alot of money and why on earth would the CPA pay the servicing and not the developer who is benefitting from the use of this money?  This seems very wrong and as crooked as a broken nose.  Town officials continue to nurse these few developers to the point where they are sucking this town dry at the taxpayers expense.  Enough already, get this money back and I don't care if its fifty bucks, it's still too much.    
4:51 pm edt 

Bangs Street

The Bangs St. prefabs were discussed to include ONE affordable unit which seems to have gotten blended into the batter and magically disappeared now.  What a surprise.  When will Mr. Malone connect his land to his friend on Bangs St. Ext. to enable a road and multiple, multiple similar slum modulars on Willow?  Lots of dough to be made here by these two developers.  Enquiring minds.  Maybe this is what the town money will go too.      
4:18 pm edt 


Malone got $150K for the Shank Painter property next to
the former Clem & Ursie's. He got $800K for the Nelson
Ave. project. Do the addition.
How can we be spending more than is in the avaiable CPA
coffers? I still want to know where those monies are.
The alotted monies for  projects that are  a pipe dream should
be returned and used for projects that are in process or ready
to start. I do not get any town, state, nor federal assistance
when I need to comply or make improvements on my

Over It
4:15 pm edt 

FYI.  The Bangs street development NEVER had an affordable housing component to it.  And it never did.  At town meeting a few years back, we passed a by-law that makes any building or conversion of FIVE OR MORE units to include 33% of the project as affordable.  By only having 4 units, Bangs street is exempt.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Ted Malone was only given $800K, not the $950K suggested here.  And again, please correct me if I'm wrong, but the CPA never had the money sitting around in an account to begin with.  The money was to be borrowed and the CPA would be paying the debt service on it.

And we can't get rid of either the Land Bank or the CPA fund because we have borrowed against both of these (very foolishly, but approved by the voters) thereby forcing us to keep them.
12:16 pm edt 

CPA Funds

Who is (are) the custodian(s) of the CPA
funds? I do hope that OUR money is in
a money market account.
Remember the $200k plus that was in
limbo for the cemetery perpetual fund.
I want to know where OUR $950k

Just a taxed payer

BTW, Why are we paying an affordable
housing manager when there are no
affordable units in the near future?
11:52 am edt 

Affordable Housing

I support the concept of affordable housing but the question is.....

If there truly are so, so many people in need of affordable housing, can someone please explain why there were only 4 applications for a 1 bedroom affordable apartment in Truro?

PS It is way past time to get that money back from Ted Malone. If and when he is ready to build, he can apply again. Meanwhile that money could be put to better use.
By the way, who is collecting the interest on that money?
11:08 am edt 

Developers and Their Buddies in Town Hall

This may be a dumb question but here goes anyway.  While this 950K is sitting in limbo, who is making the interest on it? NO MORE new affordable housing.  Look at Bangs St.  Built under the guise of having an affordable housing unit to slide through permitting yet the units are on the market for $600,000.00.  Until you clean house, it will never end.  Too much money involved moving between the same hands time after time with nothing to stop it.  Conservation is a bad joke and places that should NEVER see construction will be ruined.  Ptown is digging itself deeper and deeper into a hole ALLOWING developers to control the ladder, aided by their buds in town hall.    
11:07 am edt 

AIDS Memorial

But, but, but. Pity us, no compasion for any others.
11:05 am edt 

CPA Funds

The original intent of the CPA was to take existing buildings
and convert them into affordable housing. It is the greedy
developers that found a loop hole which allows them to
avoid the zoning codes which others must adhere to.
If you think that Malone and others are building  out of the
goodness of heart you are very wrong. We should abolish
the CPA   tax and keep the land bank and buy open space.

Just a taxed payer
11:04 am edt 

Saturday, September 4, 2010

To: Missed Opportunity...

If things had gone the other way around and Earl had hit, people could say you deserved the damage because you were greedy.  Get real and don't be so self  righteous.
11:29 pm edt 

Re: Missed Opportunity

In a civil society we agree to abide by a code of conduct for the greater good. The State and the Town had declared a state of emergency. Although it proved to be a false alarm this time, the civil defense was acting in our best interest.

You on the other hand who chose to ignore the state of emergency and stayed open in the interest of profit put all of our first responders at risk by not taking proper precaution. Shame on you!

Kudos to the Town Manager and Chief of Police for handling this event. I had signed up on the Town's new website to receive email updates and reverse 911 calls on my cell phone, in the event of such emergency. I received telephone calls and emails on both Thursday and Friday with updates that I was then passed on to my guests and neighbors. So thius was a good test of the system and it worked.

You probably had you car parked on Commercial St. on Friday night too. If you were receiving alerts you would have known that a parking ban was in effect.

I do not work for the Town nor do I sleep with any public officials, yet. (LOL)
11:28 pm edt 

So True: CPA Funds are Questionable in Their Use

The CPA Cte and the town really should vote on these projects/grants with time limits attached.  If you can't get the project started and completed within X number of years the grant is canceled.  But, I guess we are so desparate for Aff. Housing we are willing to wait as long as it takes.
11:26 pm edt 

Re: CPA Funds
I completely agree! We should get back our money from Ted Malone and buy back the property for $1.00. I don't agree with doing away with the CPA tax. We should keep it and spend it on open space. Provincetown is getting way to congested. Do you want to end up like Hyannis with all the crime and homeless people hanging around. DO NOT BUILD ANY MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. Use the housing we already have and turn them into affordable houses. Let's not build projects, but rather buy properties around town and fill them with people who have jobs and need affordable housing. I for one don't want a bunch of people imported from other sections of the cape to live for free. Let's help the people of Ptown.
11:24 pm edt 

So Tired of a Mismanaged Town and Unneeded Special Town Meetings
One Town Meeting annually makes sense. That is more than enough. But holding Town Meeting when there is little need for such a meeting is just plain wrong.

Let Couture try to figure out what she should do. Maybe this time she'll make the right decision. Chances aren't good but there is a slight hope.
4:41 pm edt 

Welcome Back: It's Labor Day Weekend!

come on down! Time to drive a little further and end up here in Provincewtown.

Welcome back. Summer may be passing but Fall has arrived!
4:39 pm edt 

So, True: CPA Funds are Questionable in Their Use
The monies should not be allowed to be awarded and used without a time line. I agree with the blogger on this point. There is something wrong with this approach and wouldn't we all be in a better situation if the monies had been given to six individuals instead of one and we'd have smaller pojects and the town would not look so slummy in its so-called affordable housing developments.
1:17 pm edt 

Special Town Meeting

Sounds like a lazy town employee doesn t want a STM because of the
work required? That s what this is all about- the work required not the
cost involved.

See you at STM!
9:15 am edt 

CPA Funds

It is time to get our CPA funds back from Ted Malone. The
$950k is sitting in limbo. We should reposess the 90 Shankpainter
property for $1.00. That's what they paid the town. There should
be a time limit on these scams. Maybe it is time to amend
the 3% CPA taxes completly.

Just a taxpayer
9:14 am edt 

AIDS Memorial

"Re: Nobody deserves to die from AIDS, but . . ."

There really is no 'but' that should be added to that statement.
9:13 am edt 

Re: Missed Opportunity

Oh come on, people closed early to be safe from a potential threat not to slam the door in anyone's face. Was that statement even worth responding to? Good for you and all that cash. Now pony up and donate it to a good cause.  I would love to know who you are so I can avoid patronizing your business.
9:12 am edt 

Missed Opportunity

Here's to to the retailers who closed early today. You missed an amazing  opportunity with your cowardice and self involvement. Nice job slamming the door in the faces of our guests. We closed at eleven and with no competition exceeded last year's numbers. Thanks.  
12:52 am edt 

Sorry, What

But are you carrying Dennis Minsky on this Blog? Really ?  Sorry but he is not a friend of the dunes or of nature or of anything we who love this land just love.

He is a pretense; he is a pretender of who  or a anyone else would do. This Minsky shames me. He embarrasses me. He is but a fraud.
12:50 am edt 

Finagling For Affordable Housing
The affordable housing group got turned down for a third time by the state--that says something.

Now the B of S wants to have this meeting to finagle a way for them to get their favorites: the land and money for the developers.
12:48 am edt 

Special Town Meeting

"There should be NO STM this fall, if the BOS wants one let them individually pay for it themselves and not my tax dollars to change some by-laws that are "their favorites" as was reported in the Banner."

Don't always believe the Banner's reporting.  There are more items for Town mtg than just zoning artiles.
12:47 am edt 

Town Meetings Cost Even More:

Add in Legal Costs Before and at the Meetings and Town Employees Time of Weeks of Prep-

The cost is much more significant. It requires weeks and weeks of town employees addressing many issues and spending hours and hours, if not weeks, getting ready and then holding the meetings.

And all this to try to pass a few changes to the zoning by-laws? This would be foolish and fiscally irresponsible. It is not required and should not be held.

Use town time for better issues and our resident time as well.
12:45 am edt 

AIDS Memorial
Ignorance is a lack of knowledge. Knowing the facts and denying them is stupidity. Of course, not all gay men are pedophiles. Yes I am straight and surprise, surprise I have numerous gay friends, whom I greatly respect.  Nobody deserves to die from AIDS, but anyone growing up in Provincetown can attest to the unwanted attention they received and for someone to knowingly pass any disease to another individual is criminal. There is a well known documentary chronicling the last days of a gay man and a female high school senior. The man expressed extreme interest in the girl until he found out she wasnt a boy. If youre not familiar with this, ask any native. This is fact, not my or your opinion.
By the way, you didnt have to be hot to attract attention.
12:43 am edt 

Friday, September 3, 2010

Let the Boards Keep Working
We can vote on by-laws int eh spring. How foolish to call a special town meeting to tgry to pass a few zoning by-laws. ARe you serious? This makes a mockery of town meeting. Keep working on the changes and we'll see you in the spring. Even then, we may vote these down.
1:30 pm edt 

Fall Town Meeting

There should be NO STM this fall, if the BOS wants one let them individually pay for it themselves and not my tax dollars to change some by-laws that are "their favorites" as was reported in the Banner. They are out of touch and fiscally irresponsible. The Spring Town Meeting should be changed to the first week in MAY like the rest of the sensible people of CAPE COD. That is one article they should craft or General By Law to change so more people can participate in Town Meeting and not only 150 - 200 that show up in April. Those that don't register to vote  or fail to show up or stay the entire night, shame on you and don't complain about any decisions made unless you participate.
1:28 pm edt 

Town Meeting

Town meeting costs a lot? Who is getting paid? A couple of DPW workers and policemen? Selectman Couture said it cost under $1700. That is a small price to pay for good government! It is disrepectful to know work is being done by several Town boards for Town meeting and invalidating their work because the Selectmen haven't any articles for it.
1:17 pm edt 

Town Meeting
A speial town meeting cost the town a lot of money, this would be a waste of the taxpayers money.The BOS just loves to spend our money. Getting so tired of this.
8:13 am edt 

Thursday, September 2, 2010

No, There Should Not Be a Town Meeting

When there is nothing much to discuss. Mostly by-law changes? You have to be kidding. There is no reason to have this special meeting and let's hope some of the BOS have enough sense to cancel this psuedo-meeting.

Have a special town meeting to change a few by-laws on zoning? You have to be kidding. Or you're out of touch. Let's be reasonable and wait until spring when there will many other issues to consider.
11:07 pm edt 

The Town Is Rather Quiet

Let's hope we don't have too much damage with Hurricaine Earl. Good luck to all boaters, fishermen, sea-shore residents. May the winds be kinder and the seas merciful. May tomorrow find us all smiling that EArl came and went and left us as we were.
11:06 pm edt 

AIDS Memorial

A piece of granite will last longer than our memories, and for that matter, us. A great spot to put it would be near the meet rack.
11:05 pm edt 

AIDS Memorial

Lets never forget that AIDS was and is a political hot potato. The reason I would want the memorial on town hall lawn is to show the rest of the world that our local government are not afraid to show and remember this dark period of Provincetowns history right on ground zero of our government where everyone can see it.
11:04 pm edt 

Not to Worry

People on this blog are not Great White Sharks so don't worry about "attack".  Passion is the driver here.  Agree, disagree, that's par for the course and the only requirements are a backbone and remedial spelling.  Now get off this blog and go find someone elderly, etc. to help out as Earl creeps to the door. Good luck to all and hold onto each other when the winds howl.  The person you grab first may be a fellow blogger!!!
11:02 pm edt 

AIDS Memorial

Please do not attack me for not being sure of this, but wasn't Pilgrim Memorial park at the west end of Commercial st. established to memorialized those that have left us including many AIDS victims ? I think that or the abutting island would be a wonderful place to have an AIDS monument. It is close to the water, serene and could be improved like the beautification committee would like to see done on many of our unattended islands. I'm gay and I lost many friends to the epidemic and I think a place of reflection is better than town Hall.
6:45 pm edt 

Re: AIDS Memorial

Alice Foley was on the Finance Committee.
6:07 pm edt 

AIDS Memorial

"As a straight male growing up in Provincetown what I remember, from as early as age eleven, is constantly being approached by gays. Some of these people later died from AIDS. Yes a memorial would be appropriate."

That's an ignorant statement.  You make it sound as if all gay  men are pedophiles and deserve to die from AIDS.  You must have been one hot 11 year old to be attracting all this unwanted attention from so many men.  
6:06 pm edt 

AIDS Memorial
Our entire town is a memorial to this awful disease and how many people worked together to help the folks affected by it, which, frankly is all of us.

Anyone who thinks we need a piece of granite to remind us of this past and current nuts;

and alice foley, god rest her soul, was never a Selectman.

Moving On
1:05 pm edt 

AIDS Memorial

As a straight male growing up in Provincetown what I remember, from as early as age eleven, is constantly being approached by gays. Some of these people later died from AIDS. Yes a memorial would be appropriate.  
10:55 am edt 

Dear Webmaster

Could you post a link to give us all a Hurricaine Update. that would be great. We could hit this link and see how critical the situation is with Earl. Many of us are checking hourly. Thanks.
8:38 am edt 

Bangs Street Development

When Earl comes a calling and it looks like he will, you can find some nice prefab modular units (townhouses) to hunker down in.  And then we'll meet in Oz after the storm to discuss the importance of following State Bldg. codes like Impact Zone windows and ask the Wizard for a refresher course for our bldg. inspector.  
8:31 am edt 

Preserve the Narrative

I am the person who asked where the HoJo's was....thanks to all that responded.  I guess that next week when we go for our annual end of summer breakfast buffet "pigout" at M Shay's will also think of the anecdotes some of you shared.

As a recent "wash ashore" I really do enjoy all the stories of "old Ptown"' wish there was a site where you all could keep posting those remembrances and develop them into an archive.  We may disagree, argue, debate, what's wrong or right in our town now--but meanwhile we really should find a way  to informally preserve its narrative.
6:32 am edt 

Dog Park

Why isn't the blogger complaining about no children at our playgrounds in the middle of a 90 degree day? Are they 'useless' to? Of course not! Our children's parks and the dog park are important community venues.
6:29 am edt 

Michael Shays

Basil's became Poor Richards buttery restaurant in the early 90s before Michael Shays opened there. And for a year or so even stayed open after the bars closed, and had a good take out menu.
6:28 am edt 

2:00 AM Openings

Dodies pizza used to stay open past 1:00 at night also. This was across from the old library.
6:27 am edt 

Dog Park

It was a great day in town today. I took my dogs to the beach so they could swim. Not going to the dog park on a beach day does not mean the dog park is not a success! Duh.
6:26 am edt 

2:00 AM Openings

A couple of pizza places also stayed open later than one AM. One was on the corner of Ryder and Bradford Streets across from town hall. the other was across the street from Alden Street on Bradford Street.
6:25 am edt 

The Advocate

If you want to see how anti everything our former local paper the advocate was! Look it up on our library web page. You can read all about it!
6:24 am edt 

AIDS History

Even talking about AIDS at a chamber or guild meeting in the early 80s was frowned upon. Nobody but a few in town like Alice Foley and Preston Babbitt wanted Provinctown and AIDS put in the same sentence, let alone talk about it on any tourist media back then. That's way a few in town started the AIDS support group. Because nobody wanted to help or support these men who needed the help. I remember town people arguing why town tax monies should go to helping people moving to town to die.
6:23 am edt 

AIDS Memorial

The best reason for having an AIDS memorial in the center of town would be so we don't forget how much the town cared for our own. We don't want to hide this part of history like we did with small pox, and other diseases. Look how some in this town now act like Provincetown was never a lawless and wild place where people came for sex, drugs and drinking.
6:22 am edt 

Hurricane Matters

So if the hurricane comes, where can we evacuate to? Will they let us into Seashore Point?
6:20 am edt 

AIDS Memorial

Another good reason to put the AIDS memorial in front of town hall would be that our town nurse at that time was Alice Foley who helped start the support group for the town. She was also a selectman and on many boards and committees helping the town for more than 40 years. She even helped Paul Cristo get elected as a selectman.
6:20 am edt 

Michael and Shay Santos are Two people

Burger King wanted to open across from town hall, not at Michael Shays restaurant.
6:18 am edt 

Michael Shays
It wasn't bought by the "Shay" family. Michael Santos owns it with his wife, Shay.
6:17 am edt 

Wednesday, September 1, 2010

Naming an AIDS Memorial After One Person Would be a Poor Choice
It's for all who lived here, owned businesses here, were chefs here, working in restaurants and shops here and who loved this town and died of AIDS. This would be a wonderful memorial and for all--but not at town hall. This would be the wrong place for the right memorial.

Town Hall right now is a memorial--to all the taxpayers whose taxes doubled in the last four years and whose money went into rehabing this building. It is a $7 million memorial that will surely cost all of us even more.
8:36 pm edt 

Re: After Howard Johnson's

RE: It was located where Michael Shay's Resturant is now. I believe the Santos family bought it from them but unfortunately I can not recall what they named their restaurant.

It was called BASIL'S after their Patriarch...
8:34 pm edt 

Re: Dog Park

Beautiful day in Provincetown, many prople in town, zero dogs at Bark Park.  A "huge success" , don't think so.
7:50 pm edt 

AIDS Memorial

I was here in the 80s too with nothing to hide.  What a stupid statement to say people living here were trying to hide AIDS so as not to scare tourists.  For christ sake, there was a local boy/serial killer here             and that didn't stop tourists nor did the appearance of the annual rapist that they never could catch, summer after summer.  Find a more appropriate spot than Town Hall for a memorial to AIDS victims and fighters and stop trying to berate people into opinion submission.  Some people just can't take no for an answer.  
7:49 pm edt 

Bangs Street Development

How ironic that the opening page of the listing for Bangs St. prefabs advertises a school (Veterans Elementary).  Are they kidding?  Are they trying to entice people with small chilren?  Who with kids can afford one of these for a yearround residence at over 1/2 million apiece? And if you had small kids and that much money to burn, wouldn't you pick a place with a little better educational system?  One without a high school on the chopping block?  
7:46 pm edt 

First Things First

AIDS, Aids, blah, blah, blah. If spell check had an attitude I would be fighting with my computer all day. I think we all understand what people are saying no matter the correct use of upper case letters or not.
On a more productive note a garden or other serene space sounds lovely for a memorial. But please can we clean up some of the messes that we have already started first?  
7:45 pm edt 

AIDS Memorial

The editorials of the old defunct advocate were very mean spirited and anti business. That's why a new paper was wanted and started. Also as far as a AIDS memorial being placed on town hall property, I can't think of a better place for it. I suggest that we honor a former selectman who did many good things for the town but was taken from us by AIDS, Paul Cristo. Lets name the memorial after him and have it placed in front of his passion, town hall.
7:43 pm edt 

2:00 AM Openings

There were many places that were open after 1:00 AM in years gone by. I worked at Rags and Roses restaurant across from town hall. we were open almost 22 hours every day most of the year! Back when more people lived here year round.
7:42 pm edt 

AIDS Memorial

I think the AIDS memorial should be on the town hall lawn, where it was first agreed to be put years ago.
7:41 pm edt 

Re: Howard Johnson's

Howard Johnson's was where Micheal Shays is now.
7:40 pm edt 


Michael Shays was a HoJo restuarant, and someone told me that the    Royal Coachman/Sandcastle was originally a HoJo motel.
7:39 pm edt 

Howard Johnson's

i worked at HoJo's (Michael Shay's now) in the late seventies and we were open till 2AM during the summer.  It was a madhouse and we usually stayed till after 3 cleaning up.  

Also, George's pizza used to stay open till 2.  Of course this is pre-Spiritus and everyone hung out in the center of town when the bars closed.  I seem to remember that Burger Queen used to be a pizza place back then and they stayed open late too.

I have to say, it was more fun hanging out in the center of town than what we now have in front of Spiritus.  Good Times....
7:38 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown School System

I can't believe school is not going to start till 830 this year. Because kids were coming to school late well them give them dentetions. SO why does the school think this is going to help I doubt if it does. I as a parent am glad this is my childs last year there.
7:36 pm edt 

You Did Miss the Point

When some of us asked where Sharon Lynn was, we were not assuming she was on vacation. We knew she wasn't. We just believed the time had come for a honest response to her absence. There was not assumption that she was shirking any responsibilies. It was a request for being upfront on her absence--especially if it was to last longer than these two weeks.
7:34 pm edt 

Reply to Request For Info Regarding Howard Johnsons :
It was located where Michael Shay's Resturant is now. I believe the Santos family bought it from them but unfortunately I can not recall what they named their resturant.Then the Shay family purchased it from the Santos family and that is who currently owns it now. At one time, several years ago this particular restuarnt was the site where many wanted to have a Burger King but unfortunately numerous people were not in favour.
7:33 pm edt 

Re: Howard Johnson

HoJos was at the end of the East End on Bradford, Michael Shays.  
7:31 pm edt 

Re: Just the Facts, Maam

But those aren't facts, just what you remember.  I remember riding my bike down the East End to Hojos at midnight for a chocolate chip ice cream cone and being told, sorry, counter's closed.  But you must be right as you definitely have a vast knowledge of old Ptown restaurants.  My sister was a waitress at the Gifford House for years and never worked past 1:00 in the summer.  I at the Bonnie Doone and again, closed up like a clam at 1:00 and many nights earlier.  Let's add the counter at Adams, the counter at the Patrician and the bar at the Holiday Inn when they weren't having movies with free drinks and popcorn?  Gee, guess everyone was open until 2:00, so what's the big deal now, Oh, they just didn't serve booze after 1:00 a.m., right.  
8:11 am edt 

AIDS Memorial

I didn't try to hide anything in the 80's and I don't want an Aids memorial in front of town hall. There are people other than those that post here that feel the same way. I've spoken to many of them. We can agree to disagree but to berate and claim authority is simply bullheaded and inappropriate.
8:09 am edt 

AIDS Memorial

The front of town hall is a fine place for an AIDs memorial.
8:07 am edt 

AIDS Memorial

Since we paid 250K for the Susan's (Suzanne's?) garden, how about putting the Aids Memorial  there.  Town Hall does not offer a place of reflection.  That is the only reason why I feel that a quieter serene place is needed. Nothing political here. I also would feel a lot better about the exhorbatant price the taxpayers dropped on the place.  At least if the memorial was there, I would feel it was money well spent.
8:06 am edt 

Re: Howard Johnson's

There was a Howard johnson's in town years ago?  Where was it?  (INquiring minds want to know)
8:04 am edt 

AIDS Memorial

AIDS - acquired immunodeficiency syndrome, not Aids, you betray your ignorance while you oppose a memorial to those who had as much to do with this town as the heroic fish ranchers.
8:03 am edt 

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