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DEK: A letter from Provincetown


“L’Affaire Sal’s Place: Money and Meanness in the New Ptown."


By Peter Manso


The first thing you notice when you walk into the resurrected Sal’s Place, in the heart of Provincetown’s West End, is the hustle and bustle of a hot restaurant: the place is packed, the noise level is high, and the servers scoot nonstop to and from the close-set tables. There’s a museum-quality Hawthorne and other class art on the walls, but the place still has a fish shack feel, with exposed rafters and the rhythmic slop of the bay against the pilings on which the waterfront building partially sits. And the food—the Brodetto or Zuppa di Pesce that one Facebook blogger raves about as “so wonderful that Marcella [Hazen] herself would flip,”—well, let me tell you, the Zuppa is so sweet, so transporting in its plummy, tomato-y tannic richness as to have made Sal’s the vacation spot’s dining destination of choice near overnight.

All this was pretty much the word around town last summer when the fifty-four year old Sal’s Place reopened under new management. But the food wasn’t the only things people were talking about. There were also whispers that the owner—a single, self-described blue-collar woman who’d originally arrived in Boston from Tipperary at age 17—was at war with her neighbors—four wealthy men, all gay, who had recently bought the abutting properties for summer party pads, and wanted the place dead and shuttered. In fact, depending on who you knew, you might have heard about bouts of property destruction, interminable delays for the restaurant’s opening, and armies of lawyers getting rich on both sides.


As the not-so-secret knock-down-drag-out tumbled into public view, eating there became an almost political act. Now, after simmering all winter, locals in P-Town are waiting for the hostilities to start afresh.


One resident called the quarrel the “worst case of bullying” he’d come across in his 50 years in town. But you could just as well call the fight over Sal’s place a sort of battle for Provincetown’s soul in miniature—a David and Goliath story about whether the artists, fishermen, and non-mainstream types of all persuasions were still welcome in the new Ptown. Or is this haven at the end of the Cape destined to become an exclusive enclave for the rich gay elite?



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Monday, May 31, 2010

Dancing Cop

All this talk about the town cutting the dancing cop.  Has anyone actually talked to him?  Maybe he is the one who wants to cut back.  Maybe now he only wants to work a few hours on the busier weekends.  It can't be easy being out there in the middle of the day.

Maybe they should train the new Lieutenant Golden to replace him.  God knows he could use the exercise.
10:18 pm edt 

Answer the Question
Forget about Trustee meetings. Some simple questions: what is the name of the construction company that is going to renovate the library for $2.5 million dollars?

Where can we see the plans for this renovation?

Where can we see this itemized bill for $2.5 worth of work?

When a contractor inquires about the renovation in March and is told that there are no  plans for renovation and then a month later the taxpayers cough up $2.5; inquiring minds want to know what is going on.
10:05 pm edt 

Dancing Cop!
Are they cutting back his hours because of budget cuts or did this gentleman want to not work as many hours?  If it's cutting back due to budgetary funding then what next?

Why not go back to only having one police officer after all, we only have about 900 people in the winter, (car 54 where are you). I knew enough not to get into trouble because I knew when I got home it would be double trouble.

I can remember years ago when attending school we would leave to go home for lunch.  The school supplied us students with textbooks, the desks had inkwells then things changed and we started using pencils, which the school supplied along with pens,erasers,paper, etc.  then times changed again and the parents had to provide the pencil boxes and the text books became xerox copies of the textbooks for the students. This was all to do with budget cuts over the years. Things kept getting cut but not the salaries,they kept getting bigger.  As we people get older we look to keep busy.  As for the dancing cop, this has been most of this mans whole life.  If he's physically capable of dancing his duty then let him continue.  What's wrong with some people they think when we've hit a certain age we are supposed to just curl up and pass on.

What's wrong with your grandmother tripping the lights fantastic and kicking up her heels at 80.  I could run circles around you wanna-be young whippersnappers.
10:03 pm edt 

Full Bar vs Bangs Street

A full bar IS more important than the development on Bangs Street! If it was not for the bars & restaurants in this town, we would be as much fun as Orleans after 5:00 PM.
9:57 pm edt 

My Observation

After reading the blog recently, it seems all contributing are suffering seriously from ADD.  Bloggers jump back and forth and yet no real discussion ensues about any one topic.  Telling someone to shut up if they don't show at a meeting is not productive or worthing of 2 postings.   Perhaps giving them the tools needed to be informed, i.e. website address for town, names of pertinent town employees, etc.  Granted, people are not here in winter.  Yet this is the way townspeople have chosen it to be by their decisions.  By not raising a stink when something like Bangs St. slaps them in the face, they let developers build and build to entice these summer "residents".   So what, these summer property owners are idiots because they didn't know of a meeting or didn't get the notice. Hypocrits.  Not everyone is as resourceful as some bloggers and they may truly be ignorant in the sense of simply not knowing where to look for info.
9:56 pm edt 

Memorial Day Weekend!
This is a weekend to celebrate and honor in a civil way the veterans that made this county a free country.  As I strolled downtown to take in the scenery the majority of what we witnessed was a bunch of young adults (I would say between the ages of twenty and thirty) swaying and staggering in the streets.  One woman was so drunk she couldn't even stand up, her friends were holding her up.

So, so sad that people can turn a memorial weekend into nothing other than a big drunken party.  Come to Provincetown where anything goes.

You don't see this in other parts of Massachusetts who are there to honor the true meaning of what Memorial Day and Menorial Day weekend is really all about.

Where is the respect these veterans deserve?  I don't think it's staggering in the streets being loud, obnoxious and boisterous and some even vomiting. Shame on them for behaving and acting the way they did and will probably continue to do so as long as the town allows it to happen.

By the way, we didn't feel comfortable so we cut our weekend short and left early.
9:54 pm edt 

Show Up or Shut Up

** I had to repost this one as it's most valid point on here this weekend! **

Re: Library Transparency

The only transparency is your sense of awareness. There have been numerous Library Trustee meetings, including joint meetings with the BOS to discuss these issues. There was s detailed explanation in a communication sent to residents prior to town meeting. Obviously you did not avail any of these resources. Why not?

And where were you at town meeting? People who don't participate in the democratic process need to realize their voice is obtrusive long after fact.

In other words, show up or shut up.

Now that the sun is out, and people are abounding, you seem to notice there are initiatives that have been implemented during the normal course of town business that occurred during the winter and early spring.

It amazes me how people can be so unaware, yet claim to be so concerned. But away the bottle and pay attention. This is a year-round community.
11:09 am edt 

Enough Already

Enough with Bangs & Developers & name lists... everyone gets it.  Now lets move on to town wide issues & I agree, stop the personal forum!!
11:08 am edt 

Re: Dancing Cop
The Dancing Cop distracts from the tourists looking in the shops and windows of the trinket shops directly across from the corner he patrols.How can they spend their money if they're watching him perform? Have a good summer.
11:07 am edt 

Dancing Cop

Don't waiste your time calling the Police Chief about the dancing cop, he's not going to give him back the hours he cut. A matter of fact, he's probably looking for reasons to cut his hours all together.
11:05 am edt 

Bangs Street Photos

Bangs St. is not just about a neighbors complaint.  It is representative of what is happening to this town all over, East End, West End and middle.  It is too bad people can't recognize it's significance and feel a full bar is more important.  
11:04 am edt 

Sunday, May 30, 2010

To: One of Our Icons is in Jeopardy

Call the Police Chief and let him know how you feel. His number is (508) 487-1212. His name is Jeff Jaran.

Attend a meeting of the Board of Selectmen and address your concerns during public statements.
9:09 pm edt 

Contribute to the List

Since DEVELOPERS are RUINING this town, I think it may be a good Idea to compile a list of the people who are profiting by the overbuilding of this special place we live in. Please help in this compilation, copy, add and repost. this way people will know who is profiteering the destruction of our town.
Ted Melone
Theresa Nelson
27-31 Bangs St ?

Please add to list.
9:08 pm edt 

Thank You so Much!

Thanks for taking the focus off other more important issues presenting themselves in town now that summer is upon us and we have a new BOS. Letting Bangs Street be the focus has been great fun. Can we return to town wide issues now as opposed to someones private blog about his neighbors?
9:06 pm edt 

Provincetown Library

Re: "We voted $2.5 Million to compete the library. Who is the contractor? Where are the detailed plans outlining what will be done and the cost. Was this number pulled out of a hat?" 
It appears you just pulled the number out of hat.  

Town Meeting Motion:
Michele Couture moved that the sum of $2,092,000 is appropriated hereby to pay costs of restoration of the Town Library including the buildings and grounds at 356
Commercial Street...
How did you get up to $2.5 million?  That $2,092,000 is the maximum amount and will be reduced by grants received.

If you really wanted to know the information on the detailed plan you could contact the Library Trustees, they were more than helpful when I asked questions.  Ever consider going directly to the source with a question?
9:03 pm edt 

A Legend in Our Time

What a sad situation when town funds can't afford the "Dancing Cop"'s salary of a mere $100.00 a week for the summer season.  This man is an institution.  I was born in Ptown and grew up there and remember him (more than once) preventing serious injury.  Not to mention he is a good man, hard to find these days.  Hold a fundraiser.  You do for everything else.  Not only does this man help the town doing what he does, this job is a major part of his life and if taken away prematurely, is a crime.  Come on.  Get with the program.  You allow developers to ruin the town for a buck but you can't afford $1,000.00 for a legend.  
8:59 pm edt 

The Dancing Cop
Perhaps the Dancing Cop is at retirement age and is "cutting back". Sweltering beneath a relentless Summer sun; parched, moving non stop while directing intense traffic--not a day at the beach, believe me.  

It is one thing for you to be sitting in the cool shade of your veranda blogging at your computer and sipping your cocktail du jour after a visit to the spa; it is quite another to be wearing a dark uniform and directing traffic while dehydrated by the heat and humidity of a blistering mid day sun.
8:57 pm edt 

One of Our Icons is in Jeopardy

I just read in this blog that the Dancing Cop's working hours have been cut.  I recall reading somewhere that, if funded fully, his salary is $100 a week.

Through the years, it seemed that he was the only cop directing traffic during the summer.  Oftentimes, the summer cops stationed in key intersections have been standing around staring into space, or socializing with each other, while a jam between pedestrians and motorists ensued.  I even thought then that the Dancing Cop should have been used by our Police Department for the proper training of the summer cops assigned to traffic duty.  

How can we justify such large increases for administrative personnel, while decreasing or eliminating the salaries of those most vulnerable, the ones at the lowest end of the totem pole?  

I have discussed this with many people in town, and they have all expressed their opposition!  

Any suggestions on how we can convince the Police Department, Town Manager and the Board of Selectmen to continue to fund the position for this individual at the same level, or even increase it?

He's a Provincetown icon.
3:58 pm edt 

Looks Like a Great Memorial Day Weekend For Businesses & Residents

The weather is fabulous and the people are here! Hope everyone does so well and that a level of profitability this weekend means a good summer for town businesses.

Happy Memorial Day Weekend to all!
3:52 pm edt 

24 Franklin -

Drove down Bradford from Shank Painter this morning. When approaching 24 Franklin - that house looks so out of place - too big with the dormers - does not look the least bit historic at all. Sorry - but keeping 2 original doors just does not cut it.
3:50 pm edt 

Thou Dos't Protest Too Much

Why not just state which firm is doing the completion of the library (which we hope isn't the one that did such a lousy job that the pipes froze and busted).

State where the plans may be seen and list what will be paid for with the $2.5 million.
3:47 pm edt 


A contractor who specializes in authentic restoration approached the library folks in March and was told that there was no construction pending.

Then in April, they ask for $2.5 million to complete the renovation. Where are the plans? who is the contractor? How did they come up with this cost to the taxpayers?
3:46 pm edt 

Uh! Oh! Yah!

Interesting to mention buying paintings and getting the OK on historic. I too heard of a few people who went out of their way to buy a painting and found life changed at historic. And these paintings are not inexpensive.

I guess everyone has their price. Buy a building, get your building. I heard this too.
3:44 pm edt 

Saturday, May 29, 2010

Re: Library Transparency

The only transparency is your sense of awareness. There have been numerous Library Trustee meetings, including joint meetings with the BOS to discuss these issues. There was s detailed explanation in a communication sent to residents prior to town meeting. Obviously you did not avail any of these resources. Why not?

And where were you at town meeting? People who don't participate in the democratic process need to realize their voice is obtrusive long after fact.

In other words, show up or shut up.

Now that the sun is out, and people are abounding, you seem to notice there are initiatives that have been implemented during the normal course of town business that occurred during the winter and early spring.

It amazes me how people can be so unaware, yet claim to be so concerned. But away the bottle and pay attention. This is a year-round community.
10:45 pm edt 

Re: Oxford Has a P&S

Heard the Oxford is going to convert to private residence. Less room tax for town coffers.
10:42 pm edt 

Guest Houses Sold?

What 4 guest houses sold or are pending?
Know admirals Landing closed,  Know Snug Cottage has a P&S, know Oxford has a P&S.   What would be the 4th?

AND not one of those was close to 4 million.   Oxford was listed at 1.7M.   Admirals was 1.1M and sold for the upper 900's.  
Anyone know the real facts?
8:47 pm edt 

Housing Sales

Admiral's Landing Guest House has sold for $950,000 and the Anchor Inn sold for $3,900,000
8:22 pm edt 

Food Court Has a Full Bar!

How many food courts have a bar? At the food court with the Fortune Cookie and Big Daddy's Burrito etc. the new feature is a complete bar. So, order your platter from one of the vendors, order your Absolute Martini or frozen mud slide or Mohito from the bar and sit on the patio looking out at the water and enjoy your dinner.
9:21 am edt 

Dry Spell Ended
For 3 years some owners of guest houses had their properties for sale with little action. Now 4 guest houses have sold or soon will have closings. One sold for a reported $4,000,000. Keep checking the real estate section of the banner and look at the recent transactions.
9:19 am edt 

$20,000,000 For Sewer System

David Gurtin and the DPW staff worked hard getting the grants to continue the sewer system. I believe that they received 75% of the twenty million needed in grant money. Whats the scoop?
9:18 am edt 

Library Transparency
We voted $2.5 Million to compete the library. Who is the contractor? Where are the detailed plans outlining what will be done and the cost. Was this number pulled out of a hat?

There are people who create a garden on land as big as the library grounds--why $250,000 to create a garden there? We built show stopping gardens on our land that is almost a quarter of an acre and it was a pittance. $250,000 is ludicrous.
9:16 am edt 

Friday, May 28, 2010


Here's to a great season PTOWN! Summer has arrived! Enjoy!
10:15 pm edt 

Bangs Street Pics.

Granted these pics are a wonderful depipiction of the wrongdoing upon Bangs st. however, they have become as invisible as the "Toyota sales event" that we've witnessed on TV for 20 years now. We get the picture(pictures), to be precise, time to make space for new issues. My mouse scrolling wheel is worn down to a smoothe edge along with my

Please remove them soon webmaster!

D. Newcombe 466 Commercial St. P-Town.

10:13 pm edt 

Quality Control
I'm so tired of people who are supposed to be doing "professional" work not finishing the job or doing it haphazardly. They say that smoking pot doesn't harm them, but they are deluding themselves.

Now people are over worked and over tired--and this person has yet to start the 60+ work week! Now I'm stuck. People don't follow through, they aren't meticulous, but they want top dollar.

I obviously can't talk abot this in specifics because I'm over a barrel. There is no competition here.
9:24 pm edt 

Re: "Purchase a Painting and You'll Find That What You Want"
This accusation is patently untrue. I've purchased a lot of those paintings (because I like them) and have been denied on even some very simple things at historic. It's a committee not a dictatorship. Mr. Dowd is only one vote.

Here's how it really works:
1) before you ever submit an application go to the building department for advice on whether what you want to do is going to be allowed. oh, and read the bylaw.
2) do the proper drawings, do some historical research and come up with historic pics for reference, find similar features in neighboring places, include pictures of them.
3) submit the application under your name NOT an architect, designer, etc. be prepared to defend your application.
4) show up at the meeting and answer all the questions
5) If you need a new door, have no money and can't afford a historic one apply for a hardship exemption.

You may not be approved but you'll increase your chances.

Stop bashing JD, you are a liar and a scum for your continuing anonymous attacks on this committee.

- not a committee member, etc.
1:59 pm edt 

Local Builders

True, houses don't have to be built by local builders.  However, prefabs must conform to controlled construction laws and these were not on any level.  The Bldg. Inspector doesn't even know what controlled construction means.  He gave a bogus answer to the question at the meeting.  Certain strict regulations apply yet none applied to this mess.  Again, who you know determines how much you can get away with.
12:18 pm edt 

Too Many Laws Bypassed

There is in fact the bylaw you mention re: No title V's in new construction.  But again, bylaw was meant for everyone but this project.  The illegality of the Title V is almost certain, however, what are you going to do about it?  Town boards don't care, they approved it anyway, so too bad.  It's legal according to them.  Actually, initially these ugly trailer/prefabs were rejected for a Title V, then Ms. Menscher went back with a revised proposal (not changing the bedrooms or size of the septic at all by the way) and was told, viola, she didn't really need a variance even though there isn't enough lot space.  Sorry, we were wrong the first time but now it's okay because we changed our minds.  I wonder why the change of heart.  Can you believe this?  Favoritism is so blatant it's ridiculous.  Get denied, don't change a thing and viola, get approved.  Ms. Bataglini wouldn't answer the question about what caused her to change her feelings towards this.  Deny less bef!
ore, but now allow more.  Perhaps, in addition to this developer cashing in, the house kitty will get a little fatter.  Something is up as none of this makes any sense on any level.  Laws were bypassed, too many of them.  
12:16 pm edt 

Bangs Street

Look at the first photo. The ground floor front windows do not match nor have any symmetry. They sure were in a hurry
to erect these houses of cards and gave no thought to aesthetics.
I feel sorry for the poor schmuck that purchases the unit,
which is built into the dune. I can't wait to see the erosion and interior flooding after a No'r Eastern.
Does anyone know how much these dumps are listed for?

I am also concerned about the legality of the Title V. I
believe there is a bylaw that prohibits ANY variances of Title V for any new structures on pre-existing undeveloped lots or land.
Town Counsel did admit that they were granted Title V variances. I also think that part of the Title V installations are under the buildings. This is also not legal.
As P.T. Barnum said "There's a fool born every minuet" and that's what Mencher is counting on.

Buyer Beware, The White Elephant
11:46 am edt 

Modular Homes
This seems to be the way people are going now.  I saw one being trucked in the other day. When asked, I was told it was a private home for someone who was putting it on a lot in Truro. Building codes or bylaws don't prevent someone from this type of construction. They don't say the houses have to be stick built by local contractors.

I'm sure we'll be seeing more as time goes on.
11:44 am edt 

27-31 Bangs Street Prefabs

I live here too. I'm not surprised at all by the obvious poor quality of construction.  Trucked in and slapped up quick under the cover of darkness for a reason.   If 4 = 2 then prefab x modular = cheapest quality.  What did you expect?  You can put shingles over crap and plant a pine tree next to it and it would look good. The next step down is a trailer home only they don't make those in 2 floors so she had to go with these instead.  Structural damage probably as well hidden by cheap plaster from the bumpy ride down.  Check out picture #4 down, Unit 2D Top Floor, bldg on the left.  The halves don't even match up.  Windows don't even line up.  But no one will notice.  People in Ptown are gullible and the bldg. inspector doesn't care or know better.  As a matter of fact, an "objective" abutter just proclaimed the beauty of these.  Wow.  I have some beans I'd like to sell him/her.  News flash:  Not hiring local builders and going modular instead means more profit.  She didn't put these puppies up because modular are better quality?  Instead of making twice as much, she can go up to 4 times as much, maybe even 6.  It's all business.  And these got approved?  Unbelievable.  Actually, not unbelievable at all, when you think of who this woman knows in the king's court.  I'm surprised town hall didn't rope off 20 spaces in the town lot for overflow parking for her with a free shuttle to Bangs St. Ext. running 24/7 since there is no way there is enough parking on site for these 4 separate buildings.  Maybe they did.  It would not be surprising.  And to think when the guy before her wanted to put up a house they said no, go away silly man born in Provincetown.      
9:24 am edt 

Commercial Street Traffic

It's not the cars that cause problems on Commercial st, It's the bikes. They're all over the place, in and out of the people. I know how bad they are, I was hit by bikes three times when I worked downtown. They are crazy down there.
9:20 am edt 

27-31 Bangs Street

Look carefully at the bangs st pics. Lousy construction. Tyvek improperly installed, lot of gaps in the woodwork. Inconsistent window seals around edges. Another shoddy ptown construction job, what a surprise!
1:24 am edt 

Here's My Take: Buy A Painting and Get What You Want on Historic

It's not complicated. Purchase a painting and you'll find that what you want, you will get. It's simple. Consistency is found in purchasing the right paintings. Makes the chair happy and when he is happy, they all vote his way.
1:23 am edt 

I Too Live On Bangs Street and This Development is A Disaster

I remember when the land was filled with native wild flowers and bushes and trees. I remember when Bangs Street had a private town road. Now I find everything clear cut. I see the dunes dug into and destroyed. I see four buildings pretending to be two buldings.

A few shingles weathered by time will never turn this disaster into something nice. And wait until eight cars  drive in and out of this dead end street. It is dangerous to those of us who live here and will in time pose a problem for any emergency on this street.

Bangs Street has damaged the small neighborhood we once were. This Menscher woman, this lawyer just used her pull with town officials and those in community development, to build what no one else could ever build in this area.

And who is she to take over, to appropriate Bangs Street Extension? It is not hers. It remains ours yet now it is gone.
1:21 am edt 

Thursday, May 27, 2010

To Another Point

Have you tried parking or turning your car around lately when construction trucks are there or during the summer.  Last summer there were at least 10 cars scattered about and no room to turn.  Well, add 10 more and what do you have.  A mess and no room for a firetruck or ambulance.  Good call, weathered shingles, such a nautical theme.  Even smells like rotten fish or it will smell close to that when the septic seeps down into the wetland this summer.  Toxic Development, still, despite the beautiful landscaping.  Beauty is not skin deep.    
8:08 pm edt 

Bogus Meeting Time

If you think the meeting time was bogus, swamp Mr. Gardner and town hall with emails and phone calls expressing your distaste about it.  The squeaky wheel gets the grease. You are right.  It was 100% bogus.  They should not be able to offer the excuse "well, nobody showed up" when they know it was a school function night people had planned and needed to attend that had been scheduled for a while.  Again, another example of disregard.  Don't stand for it.  Why should you?  You pay taxes too.    
8:00 pm edt 

School Closing
Attn: The blogger who posted the idea last Tuesday about putting this building here and that building there along with the Police in Town Hall.

I will only speak of the problem with putting the Police in Town Hall. When the Police were there approx 25 years ago, the dept had only 2 marked and one unmarked cruisers and the only one who had a parking space was the Police Chief. The Dept members had to find their own parking places. After the Police moved out, Town Hall was quick to give it's own employees the mini lot across from Town Hall.

Since the Police moved out, the fleet of vehicles has tripled which those vehicles alone would fill that mini lot still leaving the employees still with no place to park. So without getting into the other reasons why it will not be a pratical place to locate the Police, I wanted to atleast address what I'm sure you inadvertently did not think of. The Veterans Memorial School is the only place as far as I am concerned that will accomodate the Police Dept as is if the idea of building a new Police Station does not happen.
7:57 pm edt 

Another Point of View:
I live on Bangs Street not more than 100 feet from the new development. I think once the cedar shakes turn Cape Cod Grey" and the landscaping is put in, the new Development is going to look just fine. At that time, if you'd never been down bangs street, you wouldn't be able to tell that the development wasn't always there. I am in no was connected to the developer, any board, or an employee of the town.

A satisfied abutter
7:54 pm edt 

Re:Streets Clogged With Traffic

I had to laugh when I read this.  Perhaps if parking rules were enforced the traffic (car, foot, and bicycle) would flow more smoothly.  Try leaving a meeting at COA and try to drive around the illegally  parked taxis and service vehicles on Alden St. and avoid  oncoming traffic.
7:53 pm edt 

Bogus Timing

Its nice to see they have a meeting the same night and at the same time that the kids have something going on at the school so the parents or should I say the familys so they cant voice there opinion. I think its bogus
7:52 pm edt 

27-31 Bangs Street Pictures

I also support these pictures.  They show perfectly how who you know decides what you get in this town.  Keep the pictures up please.  People need to be reminded every day how our town officials have insulted us and this neighborhood with their games.  How anyone can defend this project is unimagineable.  
11:15 am edt 

Ad Hoc By-Law Revision Meeing

Is there any news on the meeting last night for bylaw revisions?  
11:13 am edt 


I am writing in reference to the article on page 6 of this week's Banner
"Licensing board cited as lacking 'seasoned members'".
With the exception of Mr. Santos, I am outraged at the decision and attitude of the other BOS members and especially with the Chair.
I have known Mr. Richter since he was born and have always
been impressed with his maturity, intelligence, creativity
and energy. He has demonstrated his talents as a young
entrepreneur running a taxi business as well as being one of the producers of the Shakespeare summer theater that ran for 2 or 3 seasons.                                          
For the majority of the BOS members to refuse to promote him into a vacant full member seat on the Licensing Board due to a lack of experience is a lame excuse. I totally agree with Mr. Santos and Mr. Wagar's statements that there are political undertones to the BOS's reasoning.
There are many instances of appointments to the various
Town Boards without past experiences. For example:

There are 2 members on the Zoning Board who were appointed without any prior knowledge or experience. I was at that meeting when both applicants admitted that they would have to work hard to understand and implement the
By-Laws, which we all know can be rather challenging. I think they have accomplished their mission.

Prior to Michele Couteur's tenure on the BOS, she was appointed to the Board of Health by no other than then BOS Chair, Irene Rabinowitz. To my knowledge, Couteur had no past experience or knowledge of the Sanitary codes and Title
V regs (she was there before the sewer was installed).
The only experience she had was waitressing at a fish house which is no longer in business due to the Board of Health's decision to condemn the building.

So much for experience. We should be pleased to have a young citizen interested in volunteering his time to a Board. We need more young residents to start getting involved in this Town, they are the future. To discourage
any young adult from participation due to the lack of experience sends a very strong message, "we don't want you,yet". It is time for the BOS to GROW UP and move with the times.

I am so over Ms. Coutuer's personal agendas influencing the
decisions of the BOS. If you support Mr. Richter's right to a
full membership on the Licensing Board, please contact the BOS and Licensing Board with letters of endorsement.
10:59 am edt 

Bangs St. Pictures - Keep Them Up !

It is wonderful that these pics are on the blog and should remain up until the town has made remedy of this situation.  People see these everyday here and are reminded over and over what a schlock deal we all got on that development.

I would not be surprised if these pics having to be repeatedly viewed were instrumental in Wednesday nite's meeting.  

Thank you to the webmaster for having pics up of this and other disasterous situations that have affected this town.
10:56 am edt 

Red Cups:
Rumor has it the police will be enforcing those who drink from a red cup?  Is that true?  Who's brain storm was that?  Good luck with that one.....

Let's hope you don't embarrass yourselves....
10:55 am edt 

Most have learned from projects done..  It is all who you know that gets you what you want.  Not by-laws, rules or regulations.  It's obvious they stretch them for some.  Look around the town...  Some have to go through hoops to get what they want, while others just have to know the right person.

Shame on the town for no consistency!!!!  
10:54 am edt 

Enforced No-Drinking-in-Public

Chief Jarran says the police are finally going to start enforcing the No-Drinking-in-Public law this Memorial Day weekend. Let's hope he keeps his word. These girls have gotten away with this for far too long. No other event allows or encourages drinking in the streets. It's AGAINST THE LAW.

I think they should start checking IDs too. Some of these girls look pretty young, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that many are not of legal drinking age.

There was so much uproar about the possibility of bars staying open an extra hour and all the trouble it would cause. Some of those folks should speak out on this issue too.

I know the guest house owners and liquor stores make a lot of money off Memorial Day weekend, but it's not fair that the entire town should have to put up with this rude, drunken, disrespectful behavior.
10:52 am edt 

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

Streets Clogged With Traffic
As we begin yet another season of the streets in our tiny village filling up with cars and trucks, let's try to walk or ride our bikes instead of getting into our cars to go half way accross this village.  The situation and heart break of what's happening in the gulf should shock all of us into thinking about every drop of oil and gas we use.

Agreed--why don't we try a few hours on the weekend of closing Commercial Street to vehicular traffic. currently one takes their life in their hands walking down there with cars, bikes going every which way.  A portion of Times Square is closed to vehicular traffic, Memorial Drive in Cambridge is closed most of each Sunday-- May thru October. Why not Commercial Street? People could see our beautiful town and not have to worry about being run over.

Laura Logue Rood
3:19 pm edt 

E-mail to David Gardner Re: tonights meeting:
Remove any possible loophole town boards think exists that allows two buildings to be transformed into one.  Stop using the definition of the word "structure" as if it were a by-law.  A definition is not a by-law.  The word "structure" should have no place in the approvals or denials of any project which proposes two buildings as one due to a connector.  The By-law regulating the number of buildings on a lot is clear #2550.  To add verbage to this bylaw regarding enclosed connectors is nonsensical.  Additional verbage is not a deterrent but rather a small obstacle, again, easily bypassed to obtain desired approvals for oversize projects by developers.

Mass. Law definitions are clear:
A combination of materials forming shelter for persons, animals or property.
A combination of materials OTHER THAN A BUILDING, including but not limited to a bridge, tower or other engineered work, sign, fence, wall, terrace, walk, driveway, or pavement.

The two terms are not interchangeable yet Provincetown boards treat them as such.  Plans are submitted showing buildings then approvals are provided based on these buildings being considered structures.  Two buildings are not allowed to be connected to form one for a reason.  Structures are allowed to connect for a reason.  No other town on the Cape has this issue of misinterpretation.  If enough lot space exists, no one should need to connect two separate buildings to make one.  Again, sure project denial otherwise is the only reason this would be requested.  Also, I am distraught to learn developers are members of this committee and allowed to actively participate in devising by-laws and regulations which affect them directly.  Isn't this a conflict of interest?  Shouldn't the town boards empowered with these approvals or denials be the ones deciding on these issues?  Unfortunately, with developers participating in the decisions,  I believe objectivity is a long shot at best and actual results preventing future overdevelopment will not occur.  The weak suggestion to add "enclosed" connectors as a solution evidences this.
3:16 pm edt 

Caring about the Chimney at 24 Frankling?

They destroyed the original One and were forced to rebuild the chimney as it had been. They illegally demolished two chimneys against Historic decision.

If this is caring, it's misdirected kudos.
10:58 am edt 

A Suggested Revision

Bangs St. "approval" was based on this.  To ensure it doesn't happen again, for example, I suggest:  

The complete removal of any by-law associated with allowing the combination of two houses, buildings, structures being sold or occupied separately into one using connectors of any sort.  If someone has to connect or combine, either via continuous foundation or enclosed connector, they are overbuilding.  There is no reason for units being sold or occupied separately to be connected other than to bypass lot size restrictions.  Eradication of this loophole alltogether will remove any chance of confusion in the future and be substantial in preventing abuse of lot size restrictions and overbuilding.

Food for thought.  If you agree and even if you don't,  please post. Now is the time.  Get involved.  Remember, strength in numbers.  
10:49 am edt 

Bangs St. stupid Cul-de-Sac?
Stupid you say.  Well stupid is as stupid does.  I am staying by the way.  Just like my father and his father and his father's father who came from Portugal to make a life in what used to be a nice little fishing village before they decided to be nice and accepting and let all you summer people buy up property and exploit the town with your fancy ideas.  Some say the Ptown of old wasn't that good.  Were they actually there in the old? Because the old was so much nicer.  Fishing boats that actually fished, artists, quaint dead end cul-de-sacs that weren't stupid, even smelled good Memorial Day weekend, like salt air instead of stale beer.  I will look for a hobby and I suggest you do the same. 4 C's may be offering a summer course in class and common sense that may suit you.      
10:43 am edt 

Re: 24 Franklin Street
And now 24 Franklin has the beautiful chimney.....

Well that's all fine and good BUT what about that ugly additional staircase(s) on the side of the building in some brown color ?  Those were not there before

It is clear form this renovation that keeping this house "Historical" was not the priority nor the end result.
It does not look like a house that belongs in the Historical district - with those NEW dormers and NEW staircase(s) - it is clear the focus was not Historical preservation but the maximizing of square footage.

So a beautiful chimney does not erase the injustice to the Historical district or to its residents that can't even make the slightest change to their properties.
8:48 am edt 

Rat in Basement - Thanks For the Info. Question Re: Ad Hoc Committee:

Confused a little.  The 5/12/10 meeting lists members Ted Malone with A.T.Mangr David Gardner, Maxine Notaro, etc. (town officials).  Isn't Mr. Malone part of the problem?  I know he isn't the developer of Bangs St. Ext. fame but he is a prominent developer and will no doubt be affected by any decisions made at these meetings.  Why is he on the committee made up of town officials deciding bylaw revisions if he is a developer with an interest in them?  Am I missing something?   Someone please explain.  

Being unable to be there tonight, I have emailed my By-law revision suggestions to Ms. Sharon Lynn with a copy to all members on this committee. Email addresses are on the website, except for Ted Malone.  I implore anyone else who is unable to attend to please do the same.  I suggested getting rid of the 2 for 1 bylaw completely.  Eradicate confusion.  Forget continuous foundations and enclosed connectors.  If you need to combine or connect, you are overbuilding.  Period.  There is crucial strength in numbers necessary for bringing about change.  A chance to be heard is not often granted and certain people have worked very hard to make this one a reality.  To attend in person is best but if it is not an option, please email your suggestions and opinions.  Something is better than nothing.  Let's put a stop to this relentless overdeveloping of our town and give its wounds a chance to heal.   Thank you.
8:46 am edt 

Bangs Street Photos
I'm tired of having to scroll past all the photos of the Bangs Street project before I can get to reading the latest posts. It's time to get rid of the photos or at least make them smaller!
8:41 am edt 

Streets Clogged With Traffic

As we begin yet another season of the streets in our tiny village filling up with cars and trucks, let's try to walk or ride our bikes instead of getting into our cars to go half way accross this village.  The situation and heart break of what's happening in the gulf should shock all of us into thinking about every drop of oil and gas we use.
8:40 am edt 

Tuesday, May 25, 2010

School Closing
Now that the school will be closing in 2013, what will become of the school and the grounds? The highschool was not so long ago refurnished. It has a large parking lot and also has the baseball field over the hill. Without the school using the building, the parking lot and the ball field considering no kids and thus no teams, and the police department needing a new home and town hall having just been refurbished, what will happen with the municipal buildings? Close the community center and move the programs to where? Close the Gouviea building and move the water department where? Police go where? Does town hall stay put or move perhaps the the school?
My idea?
Town hall goes to the school, police go's into the new town hall, water department and community center goes to the school also. Lets look down the road too, the elementary school will close soon too probably. Centralizing things to the high school and centralizing the police to the middle of town makes sense to me. Sell the old buildings and put the cash back to refitting the buildings. Also, eliminate some of the ball field and make a satalite parking area, thus freeing up the MPL by the waterfront.
11:43 pm edt 

Provincetown's Dancing Cop

Donald "The Dancin' Cop" Thomas's hours have been slashed.  Please call the Provincetown Police Department to voice your disapproval.
10:43 pm edt 

The Meeting (Wednesday)
From the postings I'm reading here, it sounds like this is the time for the Bang's Street abutters and others who are concerned about Provincetown to attend and perhaps offer suggestions on where you see the need for bylaw changes.

It's amazing what can happen when people work together!
10:13 pm edt 

Bangs Street Issue a "Tired Old Horse"......??

Anyone who equivocates Bangs St. to a tired old horse does not deserve to call themselves a resident of Provincetown.  These "beautiful" 4 separate houses exemplify the problems affecting this town negatively for years and only now climaxing with action provoked by caring citizens.  Sad you see differently.  There is no more pertinent current issue than the damage done to this town at the hands of greedy developers and their cohorts in town hall.  It is time to put a stop to it once and for all.  These pictures are key in keeping this issue alive, where it belongs.  Important in the moment then forget about it and move on. Typical.  The webmaster showcasing the issue is imperative to promote long needed change.  This issue affects all who truly care about this town.  You are wrong to discourage action.  Who do you work for?
8:35 pm edt 

Truth be Told

This site is nothing more than a selective and  anonymous "Letters to the Editor" blog...
8:00 pm edt 

24 Franklin Street

And now 24 Franklin has the beautiful chimney that Rob Tosner promised. I did not know he was such a good man of his word.

I care
7:58 pm edt 

McMansions on the hill

To answer who owns the McMansions on the hill, town officials, who else?
7:57 pm edt 

Taken From Russell Braun's Memorandum

This does not address the problem exampled by the Bangs St. project.  This puts a different hat on it.  The problem still remains.  

2550  Multiple Buildings per Lot  More than one principal building may be erected or moved onto a single lot provided that they are not closer to each other than nine (9) feet or twelve (12) feet if either exceeds two stories in height. Lot area requirements must be met for each principal building without counting any lot area twice.  

****For the purposes of this section, dwelling units (and commercial spaces?) connected by structural elements that DO NOT CREATE ABOVE-GROUND ENCLOSED SPACE shall be considered separate buildings.***

All this means is developers have to canopy their connectors and viola, two = one.  So what is the definition of ABOVE-GROUND ENCLOSED SPACE?  A piece of lattice, netting, solid walls and roof, what?  

If you need to connect 2 to make l because you don't have enough lot space, you shouldn't be building 2.  How about that instead of skirting around wording in bylaws to get approval.
Be careful.  This is not a fix.  It is a rewording of the same thing existing now.  
7:52 pm edt 

Wednesday Meeting
Shouldn't we go to this planning board meeting and make our voices heard? Stand up and speak out against this over crowding of our neighborhoods.
7:49 pm edt 

The Meeting
Shouldn't we all go to this meeting and make a public statement? Shouldn't the people writing here go and express the fact that they don't want a two-for-one housing bylaw and want it repealed?
7:48 pm edt 

7:46 pm edt 

Face the Facts

All the stuff going on in this town like, closing the high school, green lines on commercial st.and building on bangs st. this town is going down hill fast.

The way that I look at it, there are to many low income houses or that is so called low income houses, its ridiculous. People can't afford to live in them and when they get in, they raise the rent on the people renting them or should we say trying to rent them. Basically were getting what we're paying for people who can't run this town.
7:44 pm edt 

Re: "Monday Morning Quarterbacks"

To the blogger complaining about the lack of protest at meetings from the "Monday morning quarterbacks" -

Do you realize how things get done in this town ? I have been at board meetings which were inundated with abutters and neighbors complaining and protesting a certain development - guess what happened ? The development received initial approval that night even though there was not even an accurate set of plans presented !

I have been at meetings where even attorneys for the abutters present have looked in utter disbelief as to the boards findings. And I clarify - not disapointment but utter disbelief in terms of what was going on with approvals.

It's bad enough we have to suffer from what get's built from these favored rulings - please don't insult abutters and neighbors by saying we don't show up and make our voices heard.
7:40 pm edt 

Re: 2:00am Closing
I disagree with it...  An extra hour means more people, more fights, more police needed to stay on longer and overtime needed to be spent....

So much for the financial crisis Ptown is suppose to be in...
7:36 pm edt 


How is this site fair & unbiased, created to help the town? Does webmaster have a personal agenda?  It would appear so since all focus is ONLY on tired ole Bangs St.. There are lots of other topics than this tired horse.  Let's use this site for what it was intended and not for a personal sounding board.  We get it... the bylaws need to be re-written.  NEXT!!!
7:34 pm edt 

The Banner

The Banner employs the journalistic standards of a high school newspaper.

Pru Sowers recently "reported" about Seashore Point earning high marks in a state survey. She failed to include any comment from residents or families, leading the reader to wonder if she really did any reporting. (Truth be told, she didn't.)

Sweet Sowers' "story" was nothing more than a press release. Does the Banner really operate from a news perspective, or is it simply a portal for promotion?

It makes me wonder about "the news."

7:32 pm edt 

Bangs St.
"Quaint"!?  It was a stupid little rural culdasac prior to this fabulous improvement that will increase the neighbors property values.  The homes look great.  Enjoy!!  Cause they're staying... are you!?  MOVE ON with life... walk the beach... have a drink... find another hobby.
7:31 pm edt 

To Rat

Thanks for the post.  Very interesting.

7:29 pm edt 

New Police Station?!!

I LOVE the police chief's idea to build a new station!

Doesn't it make perfect sense to spend millions of dollars for a new station?

Especially when the alternatives of waiting for the high school as a site, or even moving the station back to town hall, are promising.

No. Let's just spend more money that no one has and build a new police station.
7:28 pm edt 

Monday, May 24, 2010

To Bangs St. Questions
Some of us Monday night quarterbacks were there at the meetings witnessing first hand the shameful display.  We were the ones whose many questions and concerns were all brushed off and completely ignored.  
7:25 pm edt 

This is a Long Post, But I Think It's Important

The Town Managers Ad Hoc Zoning Bylaw Revision Committee will hold a Public meeting on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 6:00 p.m., in Room 6, at the Grace Gouveia Building located at 26 Alden Street, Provincetown, MA 02657


1.    Public Comments

2.  Article 1 definitions and Section 3110 Nonconformancy; Create clear raze and replace language for 1 & 2 family homes as well as other structures

3.  Section 3330 Roofs and Section 2560 Dimensional Schedule; Clarify and change roof height/ roof style/ roof pitch (including dormers) issues

4.  Article 1 and Section 2550; Definition of structure and clarification of separation between buildings and number of buildings permitted per lot

Ad Hoc Zoning Bylaw Revision Working Group
Wednesday, May 12, 2010
Grace Gouveia Building, Room 6
26 Alden Street, Provincetown, MA 02657

Members Present: David Gardner, Maxine Notaro, Anne Howard, Ginny Binder, David Nicolau and Ted Malone.
Excused Absent: Marianne Clements and Russ Braun.

Meeting in session at 6:02 p.m.

The town meeting body voted to adopt the Formula Business Regulated District Bylaw as presented by Barbara Rushmore.  The Ad Hoc Working Group discussed what was approved and where changes could be addressed as follows:

2360 Formula Business Regulated District.
2361 Definition:
"Formula Business" means a type of retail sales establishment, restaurant, tavern, bar, or take-out food establishment which is under common ownership or control or is a franchise, and is one of ten or more businesses or establishments worldwide maintaining three or more of the following features:
   (a) Standardized menu or standardized array of merchandise with 50% or more of in-stock merchandise from a single distributor bearing uniform markings.
   (b) Trademark or service mark, defined as a word, phrase, symbol or design, or a combination of words, phrases, symbols or designs that identifies and distinguishes the source of the goods from one party from those of others, on products or as part of the store design, such as cups, napkins, bags, boxes, wrappers, straws, store signs or advertising devices.
   (c) Standardized signage and color scheme used throughout the interior or exterior of the establishment.
   (d) Standardized uniform, including but not limited to, aprons, pants, shirts, smocks or dresses, hat and pins (other than name tags).
   (e) Standardized facade and signage.

2362 Purpose:
The purpose and intent of the Formula Business Regulated District (FBRD) is to address the adverse social and economic impact of standardized businesses on Provincetown's historic residential community character. The proliferation of Formula Businesses will have a negative impact on the Town's economy, historical relevance, unique character and economic vitality.
   (1) Location
The location of the Formula Business Regulated District (FBRD) shall encompass the Town of Provincetown.
   (2) Permitted Uses
Any use permitted in the underlying zoning district shall be permitted, except for those specifically prohibited below in Section 3.
   (3) Regulated Uses

The following language should be placed under section 2362 Purpose
Formula Business uses are regulated in the FBRD in order to maintain a unique retail and dining experience. Formula Businesses frustrate this goal by detracting from Provincetown's overall historic experience and threatening its tourist economy.

The following section should be included in Article 4, Special Regulations
The proposed use of any building or structure for a Formula Business establishment shall require both a Special Permit from the Zoning Board of Appeals and a site plan approval of the Planning Board as well as the business license. The impact on the neighborhood and Town visual character and the impact on surrounding businesses of any Formula Business establishment shall be a criteria for approval, or take any other action relative thereto.

Also discussed was inserting it into 2440 Permitted Principal Uses table under B. Business as follows:
Add:  B11 Formula Business  Res1 District NO    Res2 District NO    Res3 ResB District BA

TCC District BA GC District BA  Seashore District S NO  Public Use District M NO

Also briefly discussed were the following topics of concern by the Building Commissioner to be discussed at other meetings of the Working Group.

   Building scale
Discussion on what types of structures are included in scale that could be excluded such as sheds.
   Create clear raze and replace language in 3110 both for 1 &2 family homes as well as other structures.
The language as written is unclear as to demolition and reconstruction within the existing footprint.
   Sign bylaw, including relief
This could be handled through Special Permit instead of a Variance but the bylaw itself needs to be discussed and reworked.
   Tighter definition of accessory artist studio.
Define what type of accessory uses is allowed.
   Clarify and change roof height/ roof style/ roof pitch (including dormers) issues.
   Better organized and clearer site plan review criteria.
Could have Site Plan Review as a Special Permit with the Planning Board as the Special Permit Granting Authority.
   2460 Special Permit Requirements for Entertainment, Seating, Alcoholic Beverages
Discussed what should fall within zoning board approval such as outdoor seating.  However, requests to rearrange seating could be handled through either Licensing or Building Department.
   Definition of structure  deal with the connected building issue, pools and palletized patios.
What constitutes one structure if two buildings are connected by decks or foundations? Should there be a limit on distance when two buildings/structures are connected.
   Provide clearer parking guidelines. Ours are scattered all over the bylaw.
It would be helpful if the parking requirements were in one section of the bylaws.

Other sections of the bylaw will be addressed at different meetings such as:
   Deal with lodging uses in Res1 districts
   Better definition of natural grade
   2550  Two buildings per lot- is very unclear.
   4500  Inland wetland areas  This should be in the local Conservation bylaw, not here.

The goal of the Working Group will be to take up and work on approximately three items for each session.  The three topics of discussion for the May 26, 2010 meeting will be:
1.  Create clear raze and replace language in 3110 both for 1 & 2 family homes as well as other structures.
2.  Clarify and change roof height/ roof style/ roof pitch (including dormers) issues and;
3.  Definition of structure  deal with the connected building issue, pools and palletized patios.


From:  Russell Braun, Building Commissioner
Subject:    Discussion topics

Raze and replace  this is a modification of some sample language from Mark Bobrowski.  We already have language for reconstruction after catastrophe.  Leave that as is.  This is my thought:

Reconstruction after Demolition.  A nonconforming structure(and use?) may be reconstructed after demolition by Special Permit and in accordance with the following provisions:

1.  Reconstruction of said premises shall commence within two years after such demolition.

2.  Structures(s) as reconstructed shall be located on the same footprint as the original nonconforming structure and shall be only as great in building scale or area as the original nonconforming structure.


The apparent main issue regarding this definition is the usage of a connector of some type between two buildings to create a single building.  This has been an interpretation of the bylaw for some time.  Even though the connective tissue might not be considered a building (open decks, foundations and retaining walls) by our bylaw definition, when two separate buildings (which are structures) are structurally connected, its hard to argue that they are not a single building.

I think the concept of ownership and control needs to be considered.  For instance, the Marcel Breuer home in Wellfleet is essentially two separate structures connected by a deck.  I dont think that you could argue that it is not one structure.  They function as a unified whole.

I think, however, when different dwelling units are tenuously joined, the situation is different.  In that case the connection is one, typically, of convenience.  Because this confusion stems, usually, from the desire to put more buildings on a lot, perhaps clarification should happen in 2550 which would give us the opportunity to clear up some other issues with this section.

2550  Multiple Buildings per Lot  More than one principal building may be erected or moved onto a single lot provided that they are not closer to each other than nine (9) feet or twelve (12) feet if either exceeds two stories in height. Lot area requirements must be met for each principal building without counting any lot area twice.  For the purposes of this section, dwelling units (and commercial spaces?) connected by structural elements that do not create above-ground enclosed space shall be considered separate buildings.

Swimming pools  above ground as well as in-ground pools?

Palletized patios  the definition should change.  As long as it is ground level why limit the size of the sections to 4 x 8?  It doesnt make sense from a construction standpoint.

A combination of materials assembled, constructed or erected which is not fixed to a structure and whose assembled components are no more than 6 above grade.


I find all of 3330 problematic and believe that the entire section should be eliminated or incorporated elsewhere.  If this is not to be then we should eliminate confusion regarding the types of roofs allowed and minimum pitches allowed.

Based on some cursory research, it appears to me that the language of 3330 predates the establishment of the Historic District.  Consequently, it is my opinion that much of the language in this section is superfluous.  Secondly, the roof classifications in 2560 and their corresponding heights leave too many roof types in the other category which may not be accurate or fair.  I know that in the past there has been difficulty in defining different styles of roofs.  Therefore my suggestion is to be a little forgiving regarding those undefined roofs in the other catagory:

Finally, Section 3300  Design Standards needs to be reviewed as a whole.  There are a number of obsolete references and other references that predate the Historic District.  If we are going to be reviewing 3340 as well, I believe we should look at the whole Design Standards section and make sure that it all works together.

These are some of the contradictory of problematic sections:

Pitches  2560 calls for a minimum of 4/12 for gable and hip roofs.  3330 call for minimum 6/12.. Which is it?  Do we care?

Dormers  minimum pitch designation would preclude the use of eyebrow dormers.  I think that a case could be made that flat roofed dormers in some cases might be appropriate.  In the Historic District, let HDC deal with it.  Elsewhere, dont comment.  Eliminate 3330.C.2

3330 B -  Flat roofs.  Flat roofed buildings must be lower than gable roofs by definition in 2560.  Flat roofs fall under the Other category and are limited to 23.  Therefore the statement in 3330 B about flat roofed buildings appearing more bulky doesnt make sense.  Secondly, flat roofs are controlled within the Historic District.  The wording they shall be avoided is unclear.  Get rid of

3330 C.3   These criteria regarding design should be under Site Plan Review.  Commercial developments of the size contemplated in this bylaw section would have to go to Site Plan review by default.  This is a Planning Board issue.

My suggestion is to eliminate 3300 and to make the following changes to the Dimensional Schedule:

2560 Dimensional Schedule

Max. Building Heights

Hip and gable roofs         33
Flat roofs              23
Gambrel, mansard and all other  28

ITEM 2:  

Section 3100 Nonconformancy
3110 Change, Extensions or Alterations As provided in Sec. 6, Ch. 40A, G.L., Pre-existing nonconforming structures may be altered, reconstructed, extended or changed if in so doing the nonconformancy is not increased. The following types of alterations do not result in an increase in nonconformancy:
1. Alteration to a nonconforming structure where the alteration will comply with all applicable sections of the Zoning By-law in effect at the time of application.
2. Alteration to a nonconforming structure on a lot containing at least the minimum square footage required, prior to any lot dimensional increases within the zoning district in which the lot is located, where the alteration will comply with all applicable sections of the Zoning By-law, in effect at the time of application, including but not limited to yard setback, lot coverage and height requirements.
   Otherwise, pre-existing nonconforming structures may be extended, altered or changed along the nonconforming dimension or dimensions without intruding further into existing setback area if the Board of Appeals after a Public Hearing finds that such extension, alteration, or change will not be substantially more detrimental than the existing nonconformancy to the neighborhood.
   Pre-existing nonconforming uses may be extended or altered if the Board of Appeals after a Public Hearing finds that such extension or alteration will not be substantially more detrimental than the existing nonconformancy to the neighborhood.  Pre-existing nonconforming uses may be changed upon the granting of a Special Permit by the Board of Zoning Appeals as specified in Section 5300. Nonconforming structures may be extended, altered or changed so as to make a conforming dimension Nonconforming only upon the granting of a dimensional variance by the Board of Appeals.
   Once changed to conformancy, no structure or use shall be permitted to revert to
nonconformancy. Any extension of a nonconforming structure must have a continuous foundation and floor plan with said structure.
3120 Restoration Any legally nonconforming building or structure may be reconstructed if destroyed by fire or other accidental or natural cause if reconstruction is begun within one year and completed within two years from the date of the catastrophe, or else such reconstruction must comply with this By-Law.
3130 Abandonment A nonconforming use which has been abandoned, or discontinued for a period of two years, shall not be re-established, and any future use of the premises shall conform with this By-law.


3330 Roofs.
A. Applicability This section is applicable in all zoning districts.
B. Purpose Provincetown is a 19th Century seaport town which has a distinctive architectural character. Part of that character is attributed to roof pitches in the range of (6 in 12) and (14 in 12)--this means for every 12 units of horizontal distance, a roof shall rise from 6 to 14 units in height with the exception of a few Victorian buildings and recent structures, all of the town's buildings conform to this range in roof pitch. Since flat-roofed buildings of the same height as pitched-roof buildings would appear substantially more bulky, and would, therefore alter the traditional character of the town, they shall be avoid ed. The existing buildings in the town range from one and one-half to three stories. Although heights are often mixed, the maximum height to be permitted in different areas of town shall be consistent with Section 2560 of the Provincetown Zoning By-Laws.
C. Roof Pitch
1. Standards All new developments as specified in Section 6100 shall have roof pitches between (6 in 12) and (14 in 12) except a hip roof which shall have at least (4 in 12) and mansard and gambrel roofs which shall have no specific pitch requirement, unless a Special Permit is granted by the Board of Appeals as specified in Section 5300 in conformance with the requirements listed below.
2. Dormers Dormers shall have a minimum pitch of 4:12. No part of a dormer shall extend above the ridge height of the roof from which it projects.
3. Board of Appeals Approval No approval for deviation from the above standard shall be granted unless the Board of Appeals finds that the deviation from the standard is in keeping with the standards for a Special Permit, the objectives of the Master Plan and is appropriate for one of the following reasons:
a. The function of the structure or the structure's importance to the community as a whole, justifies a different roof pitch. For example, a residential structure would not merit this sort of consideration, while a church or public building might. A supermarket or warehouse structure with a need to span large floor areas may also be exempted, however, the design of a shopping center that looks like normal shopping centers is contrary to the purpose of this By-Law. Thus, in granting a deviation, the Board of Appeals shall be looking for a design that breaks up the typical straight front of the center and creates internal pedestrian areas and spaces.
b. Other features of the proposed design are such that the deviation of the roof pitch is not disruptive to the character of the area. There may be other advantages of the design that can make up for the difference in roof pitch. For example, a lower pitch may allow buildings further inland to retain a view of the bay.
c. The cost of replacing the roof of an existing building, where the roof would not otherwise be modified, is too high given the improvement in character that would result.
For example, if a roof deck had been added that disrupts the character of the surrounding area, removal would be justifiable; requiring a small affordable housing unit to replace an entire roof would be justifiable.
D. Roof Configuration.
No existing gable roof shall be replaced with a different roof configuration without a Special Permit from the Board of Appeals which shall specifically address, in addition to the requirements of Section 5330, the solar access available to neighboring structures (reference Chapter 637 of the Acts of 1985), and public safety including Fire Department facilities.


Structure any combination of materials assembled, constructed or erected that fixed location on the ground or attached to something having location on the ground, including swimming pools having a capacity of 4,000 gallons or more and retaining walls supporting more than four feet of unbalanced material, but not including flagpoles, paving, temporary structures such as tents and canopies, palletized patios, or fences which do not exceed 6 feet above the property grade. The word "structure" shall be construed where the context requires, as though followed by the words, "or part or parts thereof".

2550 Two Buildings Per Lot More than one building may be erected or moved onto a single lot provided that they are not closer to each other than nine (9) feet or twelve (12) feet if either exceeds two stories in height. Lot area requirements must be met for each principal building without counting any lot area twice.

A Rat In The Basement
7:22 pm edt 

Re:Building Moratorium

I vote for a new building moratorium immediately.  So does my mother, brothers and sisters.  
4:36 pm edt 

27-31 Bangs Street

I agree, the Bangs Street development seems to be wrong, but just showing pictures and blogging about it will not stop or change anything. Only a court of law can stop this now. Who will lead this new fight against the town and who will pay for it? If nobody wants to pay, the only way to stop future developments will be to have a new building moratorium.
1:37 pm edt 


It is sad that people can't extrapolate and realize that was is done on the hidden side street of Bangs Street can also be done in any neighborhood on any street corner where there is some space. All of Provincetown will be paved over if we don't take action now.
1:35 pm edt 

2:00am Closing
While I live here and am not involved in the bar scene in any way, this is a tourist town and we must cater to the tourists. I believe that the bars should stay open and that they should immediately be allowed to stay open until 2am firday, Saturday and Sunday nights.

If there is no dramatic rise in crime and rude behavior, then stay open 7 days a week. People will come here rather than go someplace else; they won't rush here at midnight.
1:34 pm edt 

Re: Bangs St .
Agreed, enough already, this topic's getting tired. Can't we get back to trashing Guertin and the Pier Corp?
11:29 am edt 

27-31 Bangs Street

Jealous neighbors aren't the only ones complaining.  Permits, although handed out, aren't based on "legal" guidelines, the project was deceptively presented, etc.  But what, now neighbors have to pay an attorney to have their own town regulations imposed correctly.  Those who say enuf, move on, exhibit their ignorance as to the repercussions of the typical "look the other way" response you are getting from your town officials on this.  Say goodbye to your neighborhoods, what's left of them as it is now.  I am not a neighbor and I am not jealous of this exhibit of greed.  As someone who does not want to see my town further ruined for a buck, however, I am seriously offended by this insult to this quaint little street in the name of needed "affordable" housing.    
11:27 am edt 

27-31 Bangs Street

Mass. bldg. term defs. are below.  Bangs St. Ext. is 4 separate "buildings" despite be presented as 2 w/connectors between "structures". Bylaw #2550 applies 100%.  An ambiguous "interpretation" of the term "structure" is no basis for approval and this permit is invalid. 2 of these 4 buildings are in clear violation. Ambiguity of definitions of terms is purposely prevented resulting in consistency across the state.  Deviation due to one town's Bldg. Inspector's inability to "interpret" terms is impossible.  It is no surprise this Blgs. Inspector ignored the pertinent bylaw and instead chose to base his approval on his "interpretation" of a word.  This worked out very conveniently to the benefit of his fellow private developer.  

A combination of materials forming shelter for persons, animals or property.

A combination of materials other than a building, including but not limited to a bridge, tower or other engineered work, sign, fence, wall, terrace, walk, driveway, or pavement.

Town boards, officials, whatever you want to call them, will never own up to "mistakes" although their "mistakes" on this one are numerous and substantial.  Hiding violations and ignoring requests for answers is their mantra.  If the same paid town boards empowered with insuring against them, actually encourage violations, all trust of residents is destroyed.  This is well on the way to happening now. The blatant abuse and serious scarring of this town for future generations will continue unless  people who really do care act against it.  Ptown deserves better.  Good job to those bent on rightfully exposing the corruption feeding these toxic developments of which Bangs St. Ext. is the poster child.      
10:57 am edt 


Work 36, get paid for 40 @ $143,000, never available to the public...  not a bad gig...

That explains why there is no $$$ for anyone else....
10:52 am edt 

27-31 Bangs Street

Its all fine and dandy to show pictures and blog away about the Bangs Street development, but what are the neighbors doing about this problem? Surely a good lawyer could hold this project up for years if the neighbors want to pay for it.
10:49 am edt 

Bangs St. Question

Where were all you Monday morning Quarterbacks.when public statements were possible at all the different board meetings?????  Typical!  Blame yourself!!!!
10:47 am edt 

Conwell Street Sign

There is a very nice new sign at the Conwell St intersection coming into town from the highway.   It looks to be constructed of the same material the state highway signs are, yet it advertises the Portuguese Festival.  Will other signs for specials events be allowed?  PAW weekend?  Leatherman Weekend?  Women's Week?  Just sayin'
10:46 am edt 

Bangs St; It's a Done Deal

Come On, Man! Give it a rest. The houses look great! Permits were issued based on the way guidelines are currently (legally) written. If anyone wants to prevent a repeat they need to make motion to chg bylaws.  Let's chg the topic already...& get rid of pictures. Only ones that are keeping the posts are jealous neighbors associated w/this blog.  Enuf already!!
10:44 am edt 

27-31 Bangs Street

The person trying to put up the shed had no other issues other than distance between the shed and his primary residence.  No setbacks issues, nothing.  Let's not forget, a lesser project on this very same site was ademantly denied before, setting a precedent.  This larger, more destructive project was then allowed by the very same person denying before.  Why?  Simple question, no answer.  
10:42 am edt 

Barry Scott

This hasn't gone to State Court yet...your facts are wrong. He left this town, but I miss him (and no, I don't believe he cares to post here, lol). I can assure you, he has won many fans and many hearts with his honest fight. And no,
Yours is a perfectly reasonal police response though!

>Has this guy won anything? He got arrested and was convicted. His appeal was overturned. Scott 0-2

He then appealed to the Commonwealth's supreme court, which upheld the court's ruling. Scott lost again. Scott 0-3
10:41 am edt 

Sunday, May 23, 2010

To "B. Rushmore, etc."
Thank you for your response.  I understand your logic, however, I respectfully defer to the following:

1.  Mr.Braun publicly stated that he approved this project based on a specific "By-law".  Asst Town Manager Mr. David Gardner and Mr. Lester Murphy both stated publicly to the Banner, in an effort to garner positive public support and to validate the legitimacy of this project, that this project was in complete compliance with a specific "By-law".  Supposedly said "By-Law" "stated" 4 = 2 based on connectors as a criteria and continuous foundations as a strengthening criteria.  Check the plans.  There are no continuous foundations.  Check the by-laws.  There is no "By-law" which states a combination of two "buildings" by a connector of any sort allows them to be considered one "building".  Check the regs.  Why lie if you are legal?    
Building: A structure having a roof and supported by columns or walls FOR SHELTER OR ENCLOSURE OF PERSONS, ANIMALS, PROPERTY OR AN ACTIVITY; such structure does not include camper as defined in this By-laws.  

Then check the definition of "structure".  It is very clear.  A "structure" is a sub-term of "building".  This project clearly consists of 4 separate buildings based on definitions as each has a roof, is supported by columns and has walls for shelter (and houses persons/and/or animals).  

2.  This project is, therefore, required to be based on the fact that these units are "buildings" not simple "structures".  The term "structure" alone does not pertain at all as it is a sub-term of "building" and differs from "building".  A structure does not house persons, animals, etc.  A swimming pool, a deck, a terrace, a  retaining wall, examples given in the definition.  Check with any other building inspector on the Cape.  This definition is clear.  Check the State Regs.  Definition is clear.  

These are definitions not unique to Provincetown.  Cut and dry terms followed by all Cape towns yet Ptown "can't" interpret them on this project. Why is that do you think?  

3.  While the permitting may have been done in order, it's base was flawed which renders the initial project approval flawed.  The Bldg. Inspector knows this.  Check the body language during the meeting.  How many times did he look at his watch?  16  

4.  Setbacks.  Bangs St. Ext. is and has been for the last 65 years, a private road.  It has not been and is not now staked properly for this development.  The lot wasn't even staked properly for construction.  Take a walk down the road.  Can you determine where this road lies?  Setbacks were based on the clear definition of this road and you can't even tell where it is. The developer does not own this road yet for some reason it has become part of her project.  Her boundaries are from the edge of the undiscernable road? (i.e., no stakes at all).  How were setbacks determined if the starting point wasn't staked?  

So many violations. There has to be more to this than meets the eye.  Town officials were squirming during the meeting, Conservation Rep.didn't lift his head from the table, town "counsel" was a joke, a confused Bldg. Inspector looked like he was late for American Idyl, Selectman knitting feverishly (what, an escape route).  What a ruse.
8:08 pm edt 

Barry Scott

Has this guy won anything? He got arrested and was convicted. Scott 0-1.

He appealed. His appeal was overturned. Scott 0-2

He then appealed to the Commonwealth's supreme court, which upheld the court's ruling. Scott lost again. Scott 0-3

Now he's filed a federal lawsuit. When he loses this case, will he go all the way to the supreme court?

Barry.... face the music. YOU WERE WRONG!

Score: Scott 0
6:36 pm edt 

Shout Out! and Morning Coffee

Is the Blog winding down or is the WebMaster away? Usually I can read the early morning postings as I'm having my coffee.
6:34 pm edt 

Stop & Shop

I noticed the reopening flags at the Stop and Shop thursday at 8am were down by noon. Was there a complaint ? Stop and Shop is doing so much for us ,especially the yearrounders. I feel like we may have bit the hand that is literally feeding us. The tennis courts in the far west end (Red Clay at the old Bissel's) had an open flag from May through October last year with no problem. Why the difference?
6:32 pm edt 

Yup, Yup, Yup
Town Manager gets $145,000  and what do we get? Corrumpt public officials. Such a deal, Sharon!

You get your innuity with this salary increase and what do we get? Nothing but more, unfortunately, corruption.

I can only hope that you Sharon are not part,part of this corrunption. But, sadly,I do believe, my dear, you are.
6:31 pm edt 

The town has no money to give any raises to anyone.  But, they sure found money for Sharon Lynn's salary...  Not only does she benefit from the 4 day work week, now she is going to receive a tidy sum for her short work week!  What's wrong with this?

It pays to work less..cause you get more........
6:29 pm edt 

Re: A Suggestion
Anything can be changed by a citizens petition at town meeting. Zoning laws, conscom bylaws, BOH regs, all of it. But it doesn't happen BECAUSE THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS TOO LAZY TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN COMPLAIN. Thats why Bangs Street is the way it is, thats why the Murchison property was railroaded, thats why the town manager gets a raise in the middle of a financial disaster, thats why the unions in town run amuck! But hey, it's easier to complain. It gives the lazy fools something to do.
6:28 pm edt 

A Suggestion
Why is it people are upset about the four day work week.  It's a four day work week but it still ends up being a 36 hour work week (minus the luch hour).  I believe other towns on the Cape only work a 35 hour work week and the salaries are higher.  Why is it Provincetown residents always want more for less.
6:26 pm edt 

24 Franklin Street

I drove by 24 Franklin today. Kudos to Tosner and Victor for the appropriate windows. They kept their word and it looks very good.  

I care
6:25 pm edt 

Barry Scott
Saw his picture on the Banner website. That's it? Seen more damage from a friendly snow ball fight.

How many times has he lost in court so far? 100%.  Everyone else who testified is lying, yeah right.  
6:23 pm edt 

Drill Baby Drill
So much for Sara Palin's clarion call of "Drill Baby Drill". She seems resolutely silent about this now. She is such a gusher of Ignorant babbling.
6:22 pm edt 

27-31 Bangs Street

Houses close together abound in Provincetown.  True.   Bangs St. Ext. project may be looking cute with shingles and a foundation "nestled" into the dune as one blogger wrote, however, the fact is direct violations of local and state laws on more levels than can be listed on this blog have occured.  This project was intentionally presented deceptively.  A fabricated bylaw.  Presented with continuous foundations. Read the plans.  There are none.  Where's the bylaw.  The Bldg. inspector didn't know. Come on. Town boards are controlled by town officials.  Town officials are controlled by certain developers.  Nature's way, survival of the fittest.  Conflicts of interest taint all phases of permitting.  It's not a matter of other houses around it being McMansions or liking it or not liking it.  It is a matter of deceipt, blatant code violations and illegalities and this town being used and encouraged to be used over and over by weak town officials as a cash cow for developers who control them.  All to the detriment of the natural and physical environment that is extremely fragile.  This development abuts a wetland directly and steeply downhill.  Where do you think this oversized septic will leach?  Up?  This development is the poster child for abuse by greedy developers who do the same thing over and over.  Build so big they need special permits.  They don't want to make money, they want to make a financial windfall.  What about the guy who tried to build smaller on this same site and was denied because of fear of damaging the environment and inadequate lot space?  Denied by the same woman who approved this.  Ellen Battaglini never did return the call.  Explain that, explain why that was denied and this 4 times larger and more damaging was approved.  Plant a few pine trees, great.  What about completely flattening all vegetation and clearcutting the dune.  Where are the ladyslippers now?  It is a matter of drawing the line and taking responsibility for the future of this town.  New developments espec!
ially on
es built under a guise need to be stopped.  People in town need to wake up to this.  How can you defend this on any level?  Because it's been done over and over, it shouldn't ever be stopped.  Great logic.  and it's just beginning...
6:20 pm edt 

Houses on Bangs St

Those are gorgeous!! Let's see more pics!!  I can't really see the houses with first 30 pics. How about some ariel shots!?!
6:16 pm edt 

Bangs Street and Barbara Rushmore
You reference this bylaw: 2550 Two Buildings Per Lot More than one building may be erected or moved onto a single lot provided that they are not closer to each other than nine (9) feet or twelve (12) feet if either exceeds two stories in height.

I down loaded the Zoning Bylaw and this is the definition of Structure: Structure any combination of materials assembled, constructed or erected that fixed location on the ground or attached to something having location on the ground, including swimming pools having a capacity of 4,000 gallons or more and retaining walls supporting more than four feet of unbalanced material, but not including flagpoles, paving, temporary structures such as tents and canopies,palletized patios, or fences which do not exceed 6 feet above the property grade. The word"structure" shall be construed where the context requires, as though followed by the words, "or part or parts thereof".

I also went to the town's website and looked up under zoning permits issued.  1. Case # 2008-27; 2. Date application filed: April 02, 2008; 3. Applicants Name: William Rogers; 4. Request: Special Permit Art. 3, Sect. 3340; 5. Decision/Date files with the Town Clerk: Jule 21, 2008.

I went back to the Bylaws to read section 3340 Building Scale, which seemed like a lot to print here but states A. Applicability. B. Purpose. C. Procedure. D. Standards and E. Board of Appeals Approval.

It looks like this property needed approval from the Zoning Board of Appeals for deviation in building scale from the neighborhood average.

The situation you mention about the person who wanted to  connect his shed but could not because it was closer than 9 feet, did he have other issues with the bylaw? It appears, in reading the bylaws that setback requirements must be met as well.  Did this property require other parts of the bylaw they could not meet?  

One would think the definitions are in place for a reason.  The definition of a structure, as I read it, is clear in what constitutes a structure.  It does not say "structures".  If it had said "structures" then I would say one would have to apply the 2550 section of the bylaw.

Perhaps the definition of structure should be reworded or a change in how the scale bylaw is written or the 2550 bylaw or all three.

Are the members of the town boards town employees because the blog keeps mentioning it's the fault of town officials.

Where I live we have few bylaws.  Be thankful you have the bylaws you have because Provincetown could look much worse.
6:15 pm edt 

Civil Rights Lawsuit
Barry thanks for the post, glad you are doing well and have the spin machine in motion.  Of course the first post on this very boring topic would be from you.  Please find another place to spin your web.
6:11 pm edt 

Saturday, May 22, 2010

A Suggestion

Here is something YOU can do if your mad that town hall and town workers have Fridays off. At the next town meeting. You can submit an article to return the five day work week for all Provincetown town workers. If it passes and the selectmen don't change the four day week. We can recall them, and then have the town manager fired by a new board.
1:41 pm edt 

Friday, May 21, 2010

Thank You Move On...
You brought me back to reality.  I appreciate your honesty and efforts to put the "line" into perspective.  When compared to what's happening down south, Ptown's local issues truly are small, though when in the throes, they're all we care about.

I envy those lucky enough to call Ptown their year round home and admire their devotion to this community we visitors are so lucky to share, sometimes for only a week or two.

So thank you to James, Katherine, Paul, my sister Liz, the members of the East End Collaborative and everyone who stood up on both sides of the "line".  It took guts to voice opinions either way.  And thank you to mother nature for creating this unique haven of art and culture that brings out the passion in so many.

In the end, or should I say both ends in reference to Ptown, the color of the sky over the harbor, the sound of the ferry and fog horns and the sight of  cormorants standing watch from the breakwater are what's important.
I am grateful to be able to sit, watch life go on up and down commercial street and just be present when I can.  

Looking forward to moving on.

Claire Carney Griffin
11:15 pm edt 

Civil Rights Lawsuit
Saw in the Banner today that DJ Barry Scott and his partner Brian have now filed a civil rights lawsuit against this town. It's been a few years, so I finally asked who this guy my amazement I found out I have 'known him' for years: the tiny, bald headed, bubbly, friendly guy who was always biking around town. This guy was a threat to two of our summer cops? It always smelled fishy to it's even worse. A resident changes his story on the stand and is allowed to do so? Even the Banner reported this. When does our town decide to stop fighting, that they may have done something wrong that night to a 40 something professional with no criminal past at an AA backyard party? Is it when we have wasted ten times the new salary of our Town Manager? When does this town wake up? I miss seeing Barry in town. I understand he and his partner sold and moved to NH. There has always been more to this story, it seems. I am glad they are doing what they feel is right. Does this!
 town ever do that?
11:12 pm edt 

In pictures 5 and 6, who owns the mansions in the background.  From the photos here they look pretty big.

If you look all over town, houses are close together.  Look at all the side streets starting from the East End to the West End or the West End to the East End all the houses are close together, no different that what happens in developments or at Bang's Street.  Didn't someone within the past couple of years just build a new house nestled in between family properties in this area?  What's being built now is no different.
11:10 pm edt 

Re: " happy as the grass is green."
A little nod to Dylan Thomas' "Fern Hill" there, buddy?  
11:08 pm edt 

To Shout Out Spotlight!

Have I missed reading something here.  I know I haven't been keeping up lately but they keep mentioning Ms. Mencher with Mr. Malone.  

Also, the writings keep referring to Town officials.  I thought this project had to go before the different boards to get their approvals.  If the boards approve something, how can town officials not issue a permit?
11:05 pm edt 

Savings? Absolutely None For Closing on Fridays

It was Sharon Lynn's attempt to give town employees a better working contract after the town voters denied by ballot the giving of a 3% pay raise for town emplyees. So Lynn did it in other ways. She created a four day work week for THEM--not for us. she then gave THEM a paid lunch break.

There were no savings for the four days work week-- just fewer services and mroe inconveniences for town residents as town employees get Firdays off. It is the most inane working contract but it did get Sharon her bonus salary: $145,000. Keep THEM happy. Give THEM paid lunces. Give THEM Fridays off.

And what do we get? Fewer services. Less time available. And no savings.
11:03 pm edt 

Let's Face it Folks

The "anonymous" people on here trashing Balla, Carney and others who condemned the green line have to be the 3 or 4 members of the "Walk the Line" committee.  I can't imagine the average Provincetown resident woke up one morning to find that the Green Line was gone and was so upset about it they had to complain on this blog.  

This project was clearly important to some people - but not to the greater community.  It's over - you lost - move on - and if you truly want to have the support of the community on your next venture, stop the childish attacks and invest your time and effort into developing something better.  In the spirit of anonymity, I remain ... anonymous! 
11:01 pm edt 

Wasted Energy

I do not understand that things voted on at town meeting can then be changed by our town boards?   What is up with the 1:45PM closing time at the bars?  
My general question would be "Why do whe have these votes, that mean nothing?"
This post isn't ment to say I disaprove or approve, just why go through all the hoopla to have what the town boards want done anyways?  Seems like a lot of waisted energy on everyones part.
10:59 pm edt 

There Are More Important Issues!

I'm confused by all the hulla balu about the Green Line.   Someone had an idea.  Others didn't like it.  It had a fair shot, it didn't work.  End of story.  Stop the blame game.  It makes all of you look really petty.  No harm was done.  No neighborhoods were ruined.  Get off people's backs.  The Green line was nothing compared to the crap that is happening in this town.  Let's concentrate on issues that will affect the town from now on like overdevelopment and water shortages, poor road conditions, affordable housing fiasco, greedy developers who need to be stopped and how we are going to do it, unpapered labor, illegal rentals, mismanagement of just about every aspect of town government, funds shortages, etc.  The Green Line didn't work, it's over.  Who cares who started a petition or who cleaned the paintbrush that painted it.  No need to throw blame over it.  Instead, put the energy spent complaining towards a new idea.  Perhaps it will have a better result.   
10:57 pm edt 

Bangs St. and Barbara Rushmoore
By-law changes are NOT what is needed here.  People who can read is what is needed.  There is NO By-law that allows this 4 = 2 construction.  If you disagree, simple produce the By-Law.  They are online.  Post it here. It shouldn't be hard to find.  Town officials were NOT able to produce it at the "meeting".  A bewildered Russell Braun spit out a definition of the word structure.  Are you kidding.  This was approved based on a definition.  What are this guy's qualifications anyway.  You can't legally permit a project based on a definition.  Yet he did.  But that's the magic.  It's not legal and it gets approved anyway.  The by-law that DOES apply was COMPLETELY IGNORED.   What about that.  Base it on a definition but ignore the bylaw that applies:

2550 Two Buildings Per Lot More than one building may be erected or moved onto a single lot provided that they are not closer to each other than nine (9) feet or twelve (12) feet if either exceeds two stories in height.

This is cut and dry. Ask the homeowner who was denied a shed because it was less than 9 feet from his house.  He could have connected it with a deck just like Judy Mencher, but the town wouldn't let him. Guess his pockets weren't deep enough.  
10:55 pm edt 

To: James Bala

Mr Bala  So nice of you to respond and call everyone else worms who have an opinion about you and Liz.  Seems you chose to partcipate in Chicken Little's the sky is falling camaign that allowed derogatory comments to be made about others on facebook.  Liz is nice, you say?  Kind? Yet she allowed these comments to be psted and left them there.  I know facebook has a remove button.  She allowed mean comments and now she has a few directed at her.  Payback is a      . When you participate in a forum like that you also become part of it.  You were part of it whether you now think you are innocent or not.  Like one poster said.  Let's see Carney do something now that she has destroyed any cooperqtive effort that may have been going on.  Obviously by your abandonment of Liz, that means you will do nothing. What a suprise.
10:52 pm edt 

Extra Extra Read All About it...

James Balla throws Liz Carney under the bus.  I am innocent he claims.  She did it.  I just joined in. She is good. She is nice.  Give me a break
1:19 pm edt 

Bangs Street/Construction in General
Perhaps the disgruntled individuals who seem to be complaining about Bangs Street and building in general yet I don't hear of them doing anything about it,  should contact Barbara Rushmore to help propose bylaw changes.  She seems to be the only one that is taking the bull by the horns and doing something about change, like she did with the Formula Business Bylaw I recently voted for at town meeting.

You go Barbara!
1:17 pm edt 

Re: "Not Toilets...................................Signs Instead!"
This is a great idea !!  All the abutters should put up signs talking about what this development has done to the neighborhood. Wonder what prospective buyers would think of this.

It's time for neighbors and abutters of "loophole" developments to take back their neighborhood and let developers know that there will be consequences for their actions. If abutters start putting signs out making it less attractive for buyers to buy these condos then developers will be more apt to toe the line.
1:15 pm edt 

Move On
The green line is history; a mark in the street as superficial as dust compared to the scars in the earth of Bangs street. The oil befouling the shores of Louisiana makes the stoutest hearts shudder and will irrevocably alter life there for decades.

How will Provincetown eveolve? Will it truly shut down in the winter? Will fast ferries evolve that will make it a bedroom community of Boston?

At the airport, there are daily commuters to and from Boston. Instead of driving to work every day, they fly to and fro.

I have a friend who just moved here in March. He is so busy: he lost almost 25 lbs going to the gym and changing his diet; he is engaged in life here in the winter. Life is what one makes of it. Lets conenctrate on what is truly crucial to our lives.

How nice that we have the luxury to get all worked up over a green line while people in Hati have lost their world and Memphis was flooded. Boston loses clean water and there is frenzied panic because people don't want to boil their water. Fights break out etc. at BJ's over bottled water: what will happen with a true catastrophy occurs?

Another day greeting the sun and the sea and walking the shore lost in the glory of the day as happy as the grass is green.
1:12 pm edt 

What Town Savings?

I am wondering what the savings were for closing town hall on Fridays...  Follow-up?
1:08 pm edt 

Dear Clair Carney Griffen

Your sister effectively rallied the troops to destroy one groups promotional efforts. You claim she was denied the opportunity to participate in the process despite "repeatedly" offering.

Well Liz, now is your time to shine, step right up! If you really want to be involved in marketing the town as an arts destination, there don't appear to be any other hats in the ring, the floor is all yours. So, what do ya got? What are your ideas? We'd all love to hear them.

Unless, of course, you really WERE just trying put an end to someone else's hard work and never really intended to actually take up the cause.
1:05 pm edt 

The Missing Piece in Sharon Lynn's Salary of $145,000
She can't do her job without David Gardner as Assitant Town Manager--or really, secret Town Manager. He gives the advice. He knows what is going on. So Sharon Lynn's salary is not only her new and improved $145,000 but also included should be David Gardner's salary of perhaps $65,000 or what exactly he is making. The town is actually paying Sharon Lynn over $200,000 for her to look up, say little, and nod at most occasions.

Such a deal! She can't make decisions. She can't speak eloquently but here we are giving this woman from West Goshen over $200,000. for what? I'd take David Garnder at his salary and send the little woman back to West Goshen and put the extra $145,000 in the town coffers. We could get recycling bins. We could plant three hundred trees. We could clean up our beaches. And maybe, we could clean up town politics.
1:03 pm edt 

From: James Balla


Against my better judgement I am going to write something here. I was told that my name has been brought up numerous times by anonymous people, so I checked it out. This will be my first and last entry here. I hope you all can read and understand that. First and last. First and last.
Where to begin? I am so opposed to the concept of an anonymous forum like this. Why would anyone not have the decency or conviction to put their name on something that they feel strongly about? For the record, I have written to the Banner (signed with my name), and on Facebook (with my name and face, of course)(which I only finally joined several weeks ago to contribute to the Facebook page about the green line). Thats right ... I joined once the page was already on.
To enlighten you all who have ranted about my making up that page and the petition- youre wrong. Misinformed. It isnt mine. I didnt  start it. I guess I should thank you for the credit, though it isnt deserved. Neither one of them were my creations. I supported both after the fact, since I am concerned about the direction our town is headed. So, so much for your facts and opinions about THAT. I addressed the Selectmen at their meeting on May 10, as did many other long time Provincetown residents and gallery owners.  I spoke from my heart and from the 25 years that I have lived in town, and the 23 years that we have had a gallery in the East End of town. We were talking about the actual green line that was put on the street... The originators of this had other parts to their plan, and thats fine. This was about the green line only, and the intrusion into our historic gallery district and the potential safety hazard that it presented. I was certainly not alone in my feelings about it.  And so, it is gone. There is no reason that the people who tried to do all these things should feel badly. So what that one aspect of all the things they wanted to do was repealed? That happens. Im sure they themselves did not realize what the reality of that line on the street would be. I thought, as did most everyone else at that meeting, that that would be the end of it, and we would all go about our lives as usual. Apparently, some of you cant let that happen.
   For all of you who have mentioned me in your entries: Do you know me? I doubt it. I know that none of my friends or even more casual acquaintances would be so cowardly as to not even sign their names to their thoughts. I am here to speak for myself only. I am not going to speak for Liz Carney, who by the way, I only met and got to know  a little since this all took place. I am very glad that I did get to know her a bit. She is  a considerate, kind, thoughtful, quiet woman who is so far removed from the trash that some of you have put forth on here. You should all be ashamed. Anonymous worms crawling under the ground complaining about someone who was sincere and honest and stood plainly in the light. One thing I will say though is this: I know that Liz did this out of deep concern for the town. She lives in an area that was imposed upon by the line.  She went out of her way to present something in the way of a petition that was NOT personal in any way, but merely addressed the concerns that many had. She had a genuine concern for all that I do not see reflected here in this forum.   Someone in an anonymous posting asked where is Balla now?? Well, I am here, as I have always been for the past 25 years. Working, living, minding my own business. Where, may I ask are YOU?? I would like to know. I would really like all of you who have written something about me in this forum to come back and tell us all who you are and where you live yearround. This is the only way in which any of your postings would have validity. And, I would like to know where you got the information that you have twisted so strangely. Do you have the       for it? (Yes, ladies, that means you too).
I have been living here for 25 years yearround. I do not need anyone to malign me or trashmouth me in an anonymous forum. If you feel free to name me, who you probably dont know at all, but not yourself, then I feel sorry for you.  Do not attack me. Do not interfere with me or my business. Do not think that you know me. If you are unable to come forth and declare who you are, then you are to be pitied. Look - this is, as I said, my first and last time here. I dont consider anyone of you worthy of any respect unless you come forward with your name and address and speak the truth.  If you dont, then fine. I wont be surprised. But I also wont care what you write or cry about. Grow up. There s a whole big world out there. Maybe you should go off-line for awhile and take a look.
I hate that I have had to even get on here to address this. But it is long past time to put this to rest. Get a life. Move on. Stop being so petulant and pathetic. Its over. I live in a beautiful town, and I will work hard to insure that it stays that way. Maybe you should too.

1:00 pm edt 

Green Line

375 signers?  Try getting rid of the ones who do not live here.  Then how many do you have left.  The Electronic Petition would not stand up in any court oin the land.  people can sign it over and over. Just like they did on the Banner poll.  Hey...wasn't that 70% for and 30%against.  Oh that doesn't count because it was fixed. And so was the other.  I find it interesting the aguments that people use to make things work their way.  I am with the group that says now what are all the destroyers going to do to make things better.  Maybe Liz Carney should get something going with James Balla so they don't look like the angry people that I see. Waiting
12:51 pm edt 

Bang Street Boycott - Toilets
Now that's a brain-er!  Kudos to the one that thought that up.  Why in the world would someone want to put a toilet(s) in their front yard and ruin the beauty of their own properties just for one property on Bang's Street, which by the way, from what I see in the pictures is still under construction and could end up with beautiful landscape upon completion.  The last laugh could be on you because you spent the money to buy the toilets for your yards, then you have to pay to get rid of them, of course unless you decide to turn them into flower pots.

Signed The Porcelain Garden
12:50 pm edt 

To: Paul Soares

As usual you are uninformed.  What is worse, you post it.  I too watched the BOS meeting.  What I saw was a bunch of people with arms swinging making jokes and attacking.  My homework says it was the BOS that brought the line into Town and David Bedard personally insisting the group paint pictures on it.  Exactly what did you see? Try watching the meeting if you want to get sick.  This is what Liz and James caused.  Know your facts and get off the line and into the real issue of the angry sick people who ran this anti line bs and how they hurt others. Sorry that things get done when you are out of town.  What a feeble excuse.  Everyone please write to the BOS and tell them not to make any decisions if everyone isn't in town.
12:48 pm edt 

27-31 Bangs Street

Webmaster please educe the size of the Bangs St pictures. (Hint: email the jpegs to yourself and hit make all my pictures smaller)

Now that the newer pictures are added as construction proceeds and he cedar shakes have been added I think the project is looking rather cute.

If you have ever seen new construction this seems to be done right. They nestled the foundations into the dune without breakout.-sand collapse. There is a limit of work clearly marked. It appears that replanting has commenced even as construction continues.

There is a site plan on file at the trailers, back door, if you want to see the off street parking plan.

The project has been developed in compliance with our back breaking zoning by laws, and our local comprehensive plan that both encourage this density of development, mirroring the existing built environment.

I don't work for the developer, don't like Pat Schulz, don't work for the Town, etc.
12:46 pm edt 

Green Line

Looks like Liz brought out the know it alls.  Claire, it is noble to defend your sister, even when she is wrong.  No one find faults with that.  The rest of these people continue to spew lies and misinformation.  If what you said is true, that Liz tried to join the group, it only goes to show that she IS a spoiled brat that will attack anyone anyway when she doesn't get her way. The campaign that was led by Balla and Liz Carney was vicious at its core.  Not one of them realized there were people on the other side.  The just got into a mob mentality and fed off of each other with Liz being the major player in all of it.  I looked at the facebook page where people just heckled and made horrible remarks.  I look at the people posting here and they still make horrible remarks .  This is what James and Liz caused.  Proud of her, Claire? Personally, I don't give a rat's behind about the green line.  I do care about people who are attacked by others.
12:41 pm edt 


She is everything we could want in a town manager, Couture said last week. She has restored public trust in town government.

How out of touch is Couture?
12:39 pm edt 

Deaf Eyes Critic

Are you uneducated too or do you just not have spellcheck?
Sorry, being sacastic.  
12:37 pm edt 

To Shout Out Spotlight

That's the ruse.  Bangs St. is NOT legal.  Permits are NOT legal.  Read your by-laws.  Read your State Regulations and Building Codes.  This is a black eye on developers AND, as key, town officials.

As far as the painting goes.  Ted Malone and Judy Mencher about to mount white stallions while rainbows of gold bathe and bend all around them (rainbows are symbolic of town officials).  A gold toilet with a little tiny image of Provincetown in the water is about to be flushed.  Ms. Mencher's foot (she's afraid of germs) is on the handle.  The toilet sits in the forefront stuck into a mini-dune (sorry, what used to be a dune). Ted Malone is counting gold coins which spill from his pockets.  He and she are both laughing.  
12:35 pm edt 

In the BANNER 2:00 am Closeing

What is up with the licensing board....One has to ask why does the board chair have such a      on for the extension of liquor sales in town ?  Do you really think it's to help the dozen bars in town? I doubt he and his lover have a steak in a bar in town ? I doubt it...So why are they so intent on circumventing the peoples vote on this article ? go against the vote of the board of selectmen is one thing but to go against the people well that's a whole other animal..So why ? Why do you want this so bad
In the banner under classifieds under section c about the announcement of the meeting it says..................... At the final meeting in November licences do not need attend unless requested by the board
So now he has the audacity to say who can and can not attend a PUBLIC meeting
Somrthing is very wrong here
12:21 pm edt 

27-31 Bangs Street

A meeting between town counsel and the developer of Bangs St. Ext. legal counsel about the fiasco supposedly took place earlier this week.  Now why would these two be bothering to take time at $350.00 an hour to meet do ya think?  Strategizing so their stories jive or exchanging recipes?  
12:14 pm edt 

27-31 Bangs Street

Any person who is sick and tired of what has been happening in this town needs to show it now.  Bangs St. Ext. has exposed the blatant favoritism town hall shows toward its money grubbing developer buddies.  Emails, personal visits and phone calls should be swamping Pat Shultz Realty.  Signs should be going up.  Word of mouth should be spreading.  A united effort against this development will be effective.  Someone has to put a stop to this.  The developers never will. Town hall never will. It is up to the townspeople who really care to do it themselves and send a strong message.  Town hall doesn't want to listen and play by the rules when honest people question abuse of the town and look for explanations and answers.  They put on a side show to shut up abutters.  It's legal. Done deal.  Sue if you don't like it.  We need to give ourselves the answers then.  Enough.  No more.  You are done.  It is over are the answers.  Go flush your heated gold toilet in Boston and build somewhere else.  Leave us alone.  and then we look at town officials a little more closely to see just why they allow this to go on for the chosen few.    
12:12 pm edt 

To: Person with question for Deaf Eyes
Since you were apparently the only educated person at the meeting, what do you think oh smart one?  The only possible way you could defend the town officials at this joke of a meeting would be if you were seated behind the table.  That would explain the different view of the show of ignorance exhibited by town officials and their really smart "legal counsel" with her "myriad" of really smart answers that made no sense. Shameful.  We were all there.  We all saw first hand how these officials operated with this developer and bent over backwards for her disgusting project.  Toxic development describes it perfectly. Remember, it's not over until the lady fat sings.  (that's sarcasm so you don't have to blog to ask if it is or not)
12:08 pm edt 

Thursday, May 20, 2010

True Disconnect
There is a true disconnect going on in town if developers keep getting the green light to build in such density from the powers that be while the residents are up in arms with this overdevelopment. People are inflamed over this over development and taxing our water system when we already can't wash our cars or use a sprinkler.

We understand about needing growth; but is this your solution? Bangs Street Extension? Shoe horning units into small squares of lands with no room for anyone to turn around?

The real estate agent is going to have to be very judicious when they take any interested buyer onto this property and make sure none of the neighbors are home because they will be stepping into a hornets nest of neighborhood resentment and any potential buyer will high tail it out of there once they understand how these four buildings were jammed down people's throats.
1:21 pm edt 

Not Toilets--Signs Instead!
You don't need to put a toilet in your front yard, just a sign. Who would want to move into a house that ruined a neighborhood?
1:17 pm edt 

Toxic Development
Turning off Bradford Street onto Bangs Street a month from now; what will we see? Will there be a gauntlet of Posters on sticks in people's yards saying Shame on the Overdevelopment? Placards stating Shame for destroying a neighborhood? And Shame for destrying Nature?

A phalanx of shame posters would be in order that just state the truth. No name calling; nothing inflamatory--just the unvarnished truth.

Who would want to buy and then live in one of these buildings knowing that they have destroyed a neighborhood? Lets christen this Toxic Development. And, be prepared: it is spreading. 90 Shankpainter Rd. and the Race Point Road project await.
1:16 pm edt 

Green Line

Apparently some people dont know sarcasm when they read it  Im aware there were more than four people in support of the green line  there were at least six. Regardless of the exact numbers, the number of people who spoke up against the line at the BOS meeting was overwhelming compared to the number of people who spoke in favor of it.

As far as me being self-righteous  if you call being against a group (no matter how big or small) from taking over public space for advertising then I guess that makes me self-righteous.  I am a resident - I did not enjoy looking down the street where I live to see a HIDEOUS green line painted down the middle of the street.  It was a danger  from kids skateboarding down the middle of the road to drivers trying to stay to the right.  If businesses choose to advertise, put up signs, advertise in national magazines, display rack cards, etc., that is their prerogative as business owners.  This hard work is what they choose to do as business owners and the residents owe nothing to them for their hard work to promote their businesses.  You claim this was done to benefit the town, but call a spade a spade  it was designed to help the businesses and it did so at the expense of the residents.  You claim that Liz Carney destroyed peoples incentive to get involved  involved in what? Private advertising for private businesses on public ways  this is simply personal gain.  I did see the BOS meetings where it was obvious Ms. Baltivak did not inform the BOS about the scope of this line or the artwork that was going to accompany it.  If these gallery owners did their due diligence they would have had a completed mock visual representation of what the completed line was going to look like at the first BOS meeting  and similar to abutter notices the public would have been informed so they could have a say on this.  This cannot be done in February when the bulk of the population is elsewhere.

The bottom line is that this matter over.  If the gallery owners want to try again, they need to come up with a better plan that doesnt offend the majority of the residents.

Paul Soares
1:14 pm edt 

Mayflower Compact Painting in Town Hall
No wonder they took it down - "Government by the people"
has become -

"Government for the Developers"

Wonder what that painting will look like ?  I hear that it is being hung next week where the old painting was.
1:11 pm edt 

Voices of the Few

Someone asked "why should the town respond to the wishes of one or two businesses?  Apparently the town does.  For example, why would the Licensing Board hold a public hearing on extending the hours of bars from 1AM until 2AM right after Town Meeting voted it down?  What is going on here?
1:10 pm edt 

"Shout Out!" Spotlight

How I wish that "Shout Out" was here when Mr. Keith Bergman was here. Look how "Shout Out" has revealed the egregious crime against Bang Street for everyone to see.

Things aren't swept under the rug so easily now. Bangs Street is notorious now for its "two for one" construction. All legal but a black eye against developers who prey on Provincetown never the less.

Now we await the low-income housing developments that were supposed to be for families--and now they are going to be one bedroom units. If we are hit with the rain that hit Rhode Island, the basin at 90 Shank Painter Rd will be a swimming pool.

The dune at Bangs Street with the house built into it will dissolve and spill down the street like sugar. I remember when Tom McKenna was forced to move a shed because it was too close to some imaginary line; yet this house is built right smack into the middle of a dune, how do you explain that?

Believe me, people have sunk their teeth into exposing everything wrong with this housing development like a pit bull clenching a stuff toy in its teeth. This developers crime against Provincetown will be exposed here as long as "Shout Out" exists.

Doing what is legal doesn't mean that it was the right thing to do to this neighborhood. You shall reap what you have sown, ye over-building-developers of Provincetown. What a legacy; it is one of true enmity that you and your greed has created.
1:08 pm edt 

I've followed this discussion for the last couple of weeks.  Unfortunately I am not in PTOWN as often as I'd like to be, but my family has a strong history and connection to the arts community is the East End and I get down whenever I get a chance with my daughters. Like my mother and my sister, I am an artist  and member of the Provincetown Art Association and hold PTOWN as a special place with light that is like no where else in the world.

I also have a connection to Liz Carney.  She is my sister.  That said, I would like to suggest that all the folks who seem compelled to personally attack Liz start signing your names.  It's so much easier to insult and humiliate when you do it anonymously. Do you have the integrity to stand behind the words you've written?

I also want to point out that I read the petition drafted by Liz and signed it along with another 375 PTOWN lovers.  I say 375 because it's been so eloquently pointed out that there were fake signatures and foolish names added, so I've subtracted @ 20 from my total.  Nowhere in that petition did my sister insult or defame any of the 3 gallery owners in the collaborative. Find me one published insult, please.

And may I point out that Liz also asked repeatedly if she could become a part of the process.  She was rebuffed, suggesting that she would not be interested in flyers, ads and signage.

And although the collaborative had the best intentions, it didn't work.  It wouldn't work.  It wasn't too reminiscent of other "lines" such as Boston's MBTA, Fidelity's TV ad, and the movie, "Walk the Line".  It wasn't fully thought out, and it's too bad that there was no attempt to notify all the east end residents who abut the line.  That's normal protocol in a small town.  Like it or not, everyone who lives along that line has a right to question it's presence.

Lastly, when folks use Liz as a scapegoat and say things like she "destroyed" PTOWN, or she should get a life, or she is a "self indulgent prima donna", they are obviously also insulting the other 374 legitimate signers of the petition to remove the "Green Line".  So I personally take offense.

My name is Claire Carney Griffin
Please tell me,
Where's your proof? Where's your integrity?  What's your name?
1:06 pm edt 

Re: Bangs Street Abutters Meeting
Deaf eyes? I've heard of blind eyes and deaf ears, but not deaf eyes. Is this sacastic reference to both or are you as uneducated as everyone else criticizing the meeting.
12:50 pm edt 


What's all this noise about some stupid green line leading idiots to a few sleazy, nickle and dime, galleries promoting disgustingly obnoxious art disguised by the exorbitance prices? Yeah they're going to buy that excrement. If we want the straight tourists to see the real Provincetown, as depicted in the last several months of Banner editions, paint the green line to the High School, the sewer system, the pier and harbormasters boat, George Bryant's bedside, the Truro water supply, Bangs St Extension, Grassy's boatyard, the Fire/Police Station, Commercial St. potholes, derelict vessel's junkies, the Townhall lawn, the approved/disapproved historic district wind turbine, and whatever silly idea comes into the moronic town mentality at any given moment. Seems as if an issue is raised to divert attention from the previous issue. Finger's into everything, solutions and completion of nothing.
12:48 pm edt 

Pictures lie.  This developer's 4 houses got legitimate approval from the powers that be so stop your bellyaching.  Local and State regs. are ignored and the project was  presented with lies. So what?  The sky is the limit.  Once the summer hits and a pool of septic forms in the wetland, Judy Mencher can have her people give a call to Sharon Lynn's people just to let town officials know when they'll need the police escort for trucking in the giant slide Judy can set up from the "crest of the dune" down into the wetland.  And also a check from the taxpayers to pay for it. What a goldmine.  And to think Lester Murphy claimed this wetland had no value.  

All abutters must post multiple signs boycotting the sale of these townhouse units.  Large arrows pointing to the "TRAILER PARK" for sale for example.  Ptown is an art colony so let's get creative people and sooner rather than later.    
12:46 pm edt 

Bangs Street Abutters Meeting

Town Counsel, John W. Giorgio, Kopelman and Paige, represents dozens of municipalities in Massachusetts and other states. Their list of associates is fairly long. It is beyond comprehension that the counsel who attended the meeting was a partner, in fact, she must have been very low on the associates list. For Provincetown they scrape the bottom of the barrel. Obviously her marching orders were to soothe the ruffled feathers by any means possible, outside of telling the truth and legally advising town residents. (In other words protect the town officials.) She had the direct opposite effect. By dodging the questions, changing the subject, presenting false "opinions", ignoring the raised hands (mostly Town Manager's fault), lack of knowledge of by-laws, etc. She presented herself as a cheap substitute for a pitiful attorney. The meeting was a joke. Substantial questions were asked, none were answered. What is the purpose of the town counsel. Taxpayers are footing the bill. Does Town Counsel represent the taxpayers or protect the blunderings and illegal activities of the town officials. We all know the answer. Shouldn't the Town Counsel have advised the taxpayers that any issues with the construction could have been appealed with-in a certain time. She inferred litigation was the only option. Don't we pay Town Council for legal advice? She told us that the time limit for appeals had expired and we did not have a leg to stand on. Nice to know after the fact and nice to know that we are paying for this arrogant advise.
12:44 pm edt 

Hey What's Your Name????

What's YUR name???
12:42 pm edt 

The Left Rudder
You must be very naive. How many people have to tell you that the developers own the town officials and that the laws don't matter because you have a whole town government protecting the developers interests and doing their bidding. You cannot do anything about it so just get off your high horse and leave it alone. It's obviously none of your business.
12:40 pm edt 

Liz Stepped Forward

I am always amazed at the vitriol that people spew when they are anonymous. If you are going to speak critically you should say who you are. Liz stepped forward to say what she thought should be said and, clearly, there were 319 other people who agreed and signed their names.  This is how democracy works.

James Ryan, Boston
12:39 pm edt 

Green Line

I went back and read the posts about the green line.  I didn't see anyone complaining about its removal.  What I see is people upset over how it was done, which just looking in the papers was vile.Now  people are being held accountable for their cruelty and lack of initiative to get anything positive together.  I think the word is muckraking.Anyhow I am a first poster so don't confuse me with the others.  If Liz and James B. don't like the problem they have made for themselves and others are saying foul, too bad.
12:37 pm edt 

There is a Cyclone Raging?

Truth and honor?? Who decides the "truth"? Our own Banner?? What a travesty and miscarriage of justice that is! ANYONE can make an allegation, ANYONE. Sadly, some allegations can be pointed at prominent local people that will suffer irreparable damage from those very allegations.

The best part is that when the dust settles, we read about the "results" on page 7 or 8 of our "local" paper! Truth and honor? Ya, right!!
12:35 pm edt 

Where's Your Name?

Ask others to sign theirs? But where's yours.  And sprouting off like there is only one person who didn't like the way you, yes you, treated others and your nasty rhetoric about failing businesses because why else would people get together if not for selfish reasons..  Take Liz with you.  Oh that's right. You did. There is nothing wrong with the same facts being said over and over.  That's why they are facts.  There is something wrong with you.
12:32 pm edt 

Wednesday, May 19, 2010

What's Your Name?

Why don't the FEW people who a complaining about the removal of the
"Green Line" come forward and state their name or names. I get the impression
that most of these mean-spirited petty complaints are by one individual. They
all seem to have the same talking points. The bottom line is that the majority
of the art community and lets not forget the selectman in Provincetown expressed
their voice. 1 or 2 businesses in town should and can not dictate or make
demands to other businesses or individuals. You really shouldn't depend on
others to help out your failing business. Its time to move on and take care of
your business.
10:30 am edt 

Bangs Street Extension

I was just looking at the photographs on this web site and wondered how the
owner was able to place a septic system in a roadway? I thought there were state
and local setbacks for septic systems and that the system had to be on the
property serviced. Also, is there not a state law that does not allow a road to
be used for anything else but a road, with the exception of public utilities
granted approval for placement by local governing bodies?
The Left Rudder
10:27 am edt 

Stop & Shop

I am so impressed with the continued improvements that are happening
at our Stop and Shop. It is a pleasure to shop in the store and now the outside
is being cleaned up. Thank you S&S.
I care
10:26 am edt 

Bangs St - Boycott - Toilets

You don't want those units sold ?

Here's the solution - each abutter should go to Home Depot and buy several of
the cheapest toilets they can and then place them on their front lawns for every
prospective buyer that comes down that road to to see !!!!

I wonder how that would impact the "curb appeal" of this development and its
prospects of being sold.

Obviously we do not get any help from our town officials - but they can't tell
us what we can do on our own private property.

What a shame that it has come to place where an idea like this would need to be
10:24 am edt 

Bangs Street Abutters Meeting

Sharon Lynn and all of her cronies, Selectmen included, have all be
emailed repeatedly about blatant violations of by-laws, policies, building
regs., etc. on the Bangs St. Ext. mess to no avail.  Only when the threat of
outside investigation reared it's ugly head, did they respond.  Their "meeting"
looked good on paper.  A display of real caring but the sole purpose was so they
claim the situation was addressed to a 3rd party, to cover their xxxxx.  Typical
sham.  No questions answered but many dodged with nonsensical legal mumbo jumbo. 
Your beloved Town Manager shut the door on people whose hands were still up.  A
link between this "town counsel" and this developer would not be surprising. 
Email to your heart's content, but don't expect a response.  Deaf eyes are at
the other end.  The rear ends occupying the thrones in this town have become way
too cushy and comfortable.  I think it is time for them to get up and take a
10:22 am edt 

Artistic Integritly

Cynthia's car makes Commercial St. far more dangerous than any green
line ever could. And if by "artistic integrity" you mean selling cheap souvenir
posters of second rate Edward Hopper knock-offs like John, then yeah, the
integrity is still intact.
10:20 am edt 

Alleged Incident

Anyone can say anything, but when it is egregious it is challenged and then
there is intense step by step Police interrogation before legal action is taken
and names are mentioned in a story printed in the newspapers.

Individuals, families, the church, the school, organizations: there are
repercussions and reputations and truth and honor at stake. There is a cyclone
raging but it is hidden behind some walls. It is good that nothing pro or con is
being printed here--yet it can't be totally ignored. And at least this much may
be acknowledged.
10:16 am edt 

To: Paul Soares

Your statics are as good as Liz Carneys.  Only 4 people were in
support of the green line? Sure. I believe that.  You are as misinformed as Liz
and seem just as self-righteous.  Your comments will not make right Liz and
Balla's nasty campaign against good people.  You haven't a clue.  I guess the
signs for the West End of town was to help them? The words dining galleries,
shops,etc must have been a ploy so that they would just look like they were
helping everyone?  Oh, what about the full page ad in the national arts
magazine? Rack cards? and other stuff they did.  I do my homework, mr Soares. Do
you? Tell me what good Liz and Balla did.  Get a line off the street? or Destroy
people's incentives to get involved? She hurt this town and the arts community
and other businesses.  The best she could do for the good of all, was to undo
other's hard work and then wait for applause. Clap Clap
10:12 am edt 

Bangs St.
For those who would like to express their distaste with this insult, the email
address for Pat Shultz Realty is (underlined)

phone:  487-9550

Don't be shy now.  The squeaky wheel gets the grease. 
10:10 am edt 


Yesterday it was Josh's Auto repair across from Michael Shay's that was robbed.
What about bullets being shot through the windows of businesses last week--is
that just a rumor? Someone stole a car and over a thousand dollars from Josh's,
but was captured on Bradford street.
10:08 am edt 

To: Paul

You are so wrong about Liz Carney.  Green line out of the
picture, she headed a campaign targeted at individuals, similar to the tone of
your letter.  You really did not listen to an entire picture that was being
developed. I did. She thinks she is speaking for everyone but I assure you she
is not. I guess you know her and are now coming to her defense.  She has none. 
She pitted friend against friend and fragmented  the art community further. Stop
looking at a line. Look at the rest of what she did.  It was the doing of a
self-indulgent prima donna.  It was vicious at its core and if she has to take
heat for it.  Too bad.
10:06 am edt 

Tuesday, May 18, 2010

Re: Liz Carney and Green Line

Liz Carney did do something that actually helped this town - she was
instrumental in getting that dangerous eyesore off Commercial Street.  She
helped in stopping a "group of three" from commandeering a public way for their
personal use.  She helped Provincetown artists maintain their integrity as
artists by not being a party to an abrasive marketing ploy under the guise of
"helping Provincetown."  Even if there were only eight legitimate names on the
petition against the green line, that's more than double the people who were in
support of this project.  I applaud Liz Carney for undoing an initiative that
made Commercial Street even more dangerous - this was an accident waiting to
happen.  Thank you Liz and the many others who stopped this disgraceful
marketing scheme that was unbecoming of the quaint and quiet East End.

Paul Soares 
11:23 pm edt 

Get the Message Out!

If Pat Shultz Realty is the seller of the Bangs St fiasco, then we
should all let any agent from this realty group know how we feel. Let's boycott
Pat Shultz Realty, the only thing these greedy bastards understand is money in
their pockets. If the realtor loses money and the developer loses money because
no one will buy their building then we will be sending a message loud and clear.
Send them letters, call their offices, dont be quiet. Get the message out loud
and clear.

11:20 pm edt 

Banner and Great Reporting

I love how the Banner's reporter displays the English prowess of a fifth

"The wife of Truro Acting Police Chief John Lundborn suffered only minor
injuries last week after the car she was driving plunged down the side of
Monument Hill, narrowing missing crashing into two houses."

How does a car accomplish both narrowing and missing before crashing?

Pru.... please bone up on adverbs, adjectives and verbs... English 101!

11:18 pm edt 

Here is Sharon Lynn's E-mail Address:

May I suggest that everyone who blogs on here with a concern about town by laws
being broken and any other slimey trick that people who work for the town try to pull be emailed to Sharon Lynn, Town Manager.  Better yet, here are all of the Selectpeoples emails as
well. Let's keep sending them email after email and see if they have the       
to hit this head on. How about some accountability from out elected official and
our paid town manager.

Sharon Lynn - Town Manager Michele Couture,Chair David Bedard, Vice Chair Elaine Anderson  - Francis J. Santos - Austin Knight -

11:16 pm edt 

Blame and Finger Pointing

I think the town is not on this "radar" screen because those who have
galleries don't see much further than beyond their front stoop.  It is a wide
world out there with much competition.  In the age of the world wide web,
marketing is key and it doesn't happen here.  If "artists" and gallery owners
could harness a minute part of their talent and "imagination" to focus it
towards enticing the general public, the art colony of the past could thrive
once more.  A little hard work is all it would take but honest hard work seems
to be a rare comodity these days.  Blame and finger pointing seems to be the top
priority.  Sad. 
11:13 pm edt 

55 West Vine & 27-31 Bangs

Some have posted that people should be proactive when a development is
in the planning stage rather than complaining after it is finished or close to
finished. So much talk about Bangs St., but why is there no out cry about 55
West Vine St. before it is started. 14 to 21 units jammed into less than an acre
is cause for proactivity as is the water issue. signed, I Care
11:11 pm edt 

Bangs St.

Why should I have to hire an attorney to have simple town by-laws and
regulations implemented?  Isn't that what town officials are paid for?  When I
say "paid" I don't mean by developers.  But by taxpayers.
8:10 pm edt 

Top 25 Arts Destinations

Although I understand the poster's point about Provincetown not being an art
colony (times do change) we are, in my opinion, still an arts destination. 
Atleast compared to the competition. If Northampton, Brattleboro, and Burlington
(and don't forget Berkeley Springs, WV) can make the list then Provincetown
should too.  That seems to be the real point.

The folks who have their eye on promoting town dropped the ball on this one.  If
they had publicized there was a competition (which was done for historic
preservation, don't forget) then I'm sure town would be in the top 25.  So, why
didn't that happen?  and why didn't the people who actually read the damn
magazine vote for Provincetown?  Those are the questions that need answers. 
Whatever the reasons are and I'd like to hear your opinion, the town is not on the
radar screen when it comes to this issue and that's a shame.
8:09 pm edt 

Arts Destination?

There was a group that recognized P-town was not continuing efforts to
maintain itself as an art destination.  Let Liz Carney figure out what to do now
that she ruined that for the arts here. Maybe James will join in. LOL
8:05 pm edt 

DPW Director

The DPW director has out of state plates?  THen how does he get
parking sticker?
8:03 pm edt 

Provincetown as an Arts Destination

"Re: The top 25 had nothing to do with promotion. It had to do with
voting.  Would you please explain how one is separated from the other."


Promotion equals marketing, and voting equals a contest where voters are
required to vote for their favorite detination.  Promotion is generally paid for
advertising, and voting is free, but requires a cohesive grass roots community
effort amongst the arts community, which unfortunately doesn't exist in
4:29 pm edt 

Provincetown as an Arts Destination

The towns/cities on the list are appropriate.  Provincetown is no
longer considered an "artist colony".  Yes there are many fine artists and
galleries here but the word Provincetown is primarily connotated to "gay" now
rather than "art" or "fishing village".  I am not saying this nor is it meant to
offend anyone so don't start barking back that I am anti-gay.  I am not. It's
just reality.  Every town on the Cape has really nice galleries.  The other
towns are not on the list either.  The concentration in Ptown is the summer
tourism/summer visitor gay community rather than the art community.  Nothing
wrong with it, that's just how it is.  Times change, towns change.  The
galleries are not the draw.  They are a side treat for visitors who come mostly
to enjoy other civil liberties denied in the maintstream.  Provincetown is a gay
vacation spot that happens to have really nice natural beauty and some nice
galleries and restaurants.  But, it is by far not an "artist colony" anymore.  Don't kidd yourselves.  It doesn't belong on this list.
4:26 pm edt 


If you don't understand the hdc function read the by law. They have no say over
a boat in a yard.
4:23 pm edt 

27-31 Bangs Street

I agree.  All abutters on Bangs St. Ext. should park their cars on
this road immediately and the sale of these units boycotted with Pat Shultz
Realty who is listed on the For Sale sign.   This was such a nice little street. 
Close to the hustle and bustle of downtown yet far enough away to be quaint and
quiet.  This woman has single handedly ruined this little neighborhood with her
love and greed for money. It makes me ill that she can get away with this with
the help of town officials.  Sickening.  If everyone using a bedroom has a car
and then friends visit there will be at least 10-12 more cars at this dead end. 
There is not room for these cars to park let alone turn around.  How would a
Fire Truck fit?  It won't.  The people at #30 Bangs St. should fence off their
area immediately even with clothesline and stakes.  The man from there was 100 %
correct.  The plans he saw were not the plans built from.  Town officials said
they were but they weren't.  There were!
  different plans.  I saw them too. 
4:20 pm edt 

Provincetown as an Arts Destination

You're delusional if you think that promotion has nothing to do with
selling art. True there are mediocre artists and some are here and everywhere. 
The ones that are starving here like to harbor the illusion that no one
understands how great they are.  This town also has some great artists. If the
word Provincetown and art is associated as much as Provincetown and Gay, there
will be the promotion that is needed.  What I am trying to say you can promote
anything on a business level.  It's part of advertising.
2:24 pm edt 

Re: Liz Carney

Liz Carney's non-participative self-absorbed vicious negativity did nothing but
hurt this town.  Why doesn't she channel her energies into doing something
constructive for the town instead of polarizing it?   C'mon Liz, put your money
where your mouth is and do something to help this town if you love it so much
instead of focusing your efforts on un-doing the initiative of others.
2:20 pm edt 

Top 25 Art Destinations

The top 25 had nothing to do with promotion. It had to do with voting. 
Would you please explain how one is separated from the other.
2:18 pm edt 

Kudos to Katherine and the Group

That is one brave woman. She took a lot of bashing in the papers, on facebook,
and here and never showed any faltering on the groups efforts to bring P-Town
into the future as an arts destination. Carney has done nothing but destroy.  I
looked at that so called petition on Balla's  neon line facebook page.  It was
double signed and signed by people who are dead He let people bash Katherine and
her business.  In my opinion, these are 2 people Provincetown can do without. 
"We did it" is their facebook quote.  They certainly did.
1:48 pm edt 

Re: Bangs Street Extension

It is highly illegal but try to do something about it. The developers have the
town officials in their back pockets, what more do you need to know? Complaints
fall on deaf ears. Why? Are you willing to spend the money that the developer's
have lobbying the Town Officials? If not then whatever you say will be
considered whinning after the fact, not properly following their processes, or
whatever lame excuse they can come up with.
1:44 pm edt 

The Top 25 Arts Destinations
Youre delusional if you think our little town is an artistic destination of the
caliber of the cities / towns on this list.  The proof is not in how we are
promoted, it is the quality of the work that is produced.  Word of mouth is all
it takes to sell good works of art and that might explain why Provincetown has
so many starving artists.
1:42 pm edt 

Thin Blue Line

They should paint a thin blue line between two black lines and dedicate to the
men and women of law enforement.
1:41 pm edt 

Provincetown as an Arts Destination

The "top 25" has nothing to do with promotion.  It was done by voting. 
1:40 pm edt 

I Don't Understand the Function of the Historical Commission

I had to jump thru hoops to replace a window and yet the people at 524 Commercial Street can have a big boat in their front yard, making the place look like some suburban place
instead of a historical district.
1:28 pm edt 

Point of Clarification

The ongoing criminal case against a school committee member cannot be
discussed in this venue but there was no similar ban on the conversations
regarding Kathy Morris or George Bryant.

Webmaster Comment: George Bryant was in violation of a standing Court Order. The discussions on Shout Out! were about the handling of the process not about guilt or innocence. There were no contesting allegations similar to the aforementioned case. 

The Seaman's case was discussed specific to Kathy Morris, only after the case went to trial and charges were leveled. 

1:26 pm edt 

Re: DPW Director

Why does the DPW Director's vehicle still sport Rhode Island plates?
Shouldn't he have to pay vehicle excise tax to the town as a resident? With his
house nearly sold, will he buy or rent? Is it a step toward making his exit?
He'll not have much of a personal investment in the town once the house sells,
will he?
1:07 pm edt 

Bangs Street Extension

If Bangs St. Ext is a private road, then all the abutters should park
their cars so that no developer or construction vehicles can get into the
property. If they try to get onto the property I believe it is called

1:04 pm edt 

Re: Green Line

From what I gather, besides the green line, there was a lot going on
with the group.  They were working with a lot of people.  They seem to have
known that P-Town was not in a real strong position like your list shows. Looks
like James and Liz did a lot of harm with their bashing and petitions.  They
ruined things for everyone.  I am not for or against the line.  I did not go to
meetings when I was invited so I kept my mouth shut, unlike those 2.  I would be
afraid to join in now because I saw what their hatred did to others. They are
responsible in my eyes for being narcisistic and liking the little power trip. 
I hope they see green lines in their dreams.
12:57 pm edt 

Library Rehab

If you went to town meeting this past April, you would have known that
the library is using $200,000.00 to complete the front landscaping with a mall
like plaza. Get ready for the "library food court" at the former art colony
known as Provincetown. $100,000.00 was a donation from a developer, the other
$100,000.00 comes from the TWO MILLION that you the tax payer voted to pay for
at the ballot box on May 4th. To finish the renovations of the facade of the
building. I voted against it. The current steps and dying vegetation will be
12:55 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown as an Arts Destination

Liz Carney is oh so proud of herself for starting an online petition (which all
of 300 people signed, half of them non residents) but despite her apparent
belief that she is now some sort of folk hero, she has done NOTHING for the town
and has succeeded only in derailing another groups efforts to increase tourism
and bring some deserved recognition to our arts community.

Way to go Liz. So now what? Instead of posing for pictures in the local papers,
how about doing something to actually help our town.
12:53 pm edt 

Monday, May 17, 2010

27-31 Bangs Street

Great job connecting the dots in the Bangs St./Town Boards/Town goverment debacle...but to what end?
I have no doubt that the neighbor's have tried from day one to question/object to what was soon to arrive and swallow that quiet road. I applaud them for the effort, but what happens now?
The current goverment is in the pocket of a few select developers with the full support of citizen boards. That is the reality of life here. We should all remember that Ted Malone is still hanging on to almost a million in Taxpayer (cpa) funds. That money continues to legitimise
10:38 pm edt 

Re: Where Have You Been!
$200,000 to install steps and grass at the library? Where did that number come from? If that's what you think it costs, you deserve exactly what you get, screwed.  
10:36 pm edt 

Provincetown an Arts Destination

The anti green line people should now pick up the reigns making Provincetown an arts destination which they insisted it was already and didn't need any help.  Oh but what about the little committee that took all the flack. was't that one of the things they were trying to do?   Where are Liz and James now. Oh, that's right .  P-Town already is.  or is it? they killed the group who was trying to do exactly that.  What a shame... on them.
10:34 pm edt 

Bangs Street Extension

How can the town give Judy Mencher this road with a right of appropriation by eminent domain when the town doesn't own it to do so.  This is a private road.  Always has been.  Abutters have rights to use it, there is no eminent domain.  #30 Bangs St. definitely has a right to it.  #25 and #25R definitely have rights to it.  How can the town take away these rights with no notice or mention of it to abutters.  This seems highly illegal.  
10:32 pm edt 

The Top 25 Arts Destinations-
The top 25 for those of you who don't want to take the time to look it up:

1. Ashville, NC
2. Santa Fe, NM
3. Saugatuck, MI
4. Key West, FL
5. Sarasota, FL
6. Sedona, Ariz.
7. Taos, N.M.
8. Berkeley Springs, W.Va.
9. Boulder, Colo.
10. Eureka Springs, Ark.
11. Corning, N.Y.
12. Northampton, Mass.
13. Annapolis, Md.
14. Naples, Fla.
15. Burlington, Vt.
16. Carmel, Calif.
17. Chapel Hill, N.C.
18. Frederick, Md.
19. New Hope, Pa.
20. Laguna Beach, Calif.
21. Aspen, Colo.
22. Bradenton, Fla.
23. Cumberland, Md.
24. Brattleboro, Vt.
25. Beaufort, S.C.

So what's wrong with this picture? Who is promoting Provincetown as an art destination?  apparently NOBODY!
10:31 pm edt 

Library Director Resigns

I question the hiring decision(s) when someone newly appointed leaves because they claim the winter is too harsh.

How much money was spent hiring the latest library director??

I wonder if there is more to this story?
10:29 pm edt 

Provincetown as an Arts Destination?

So American Style Magazine lists the top 25 arts destinations in the country. They have three categories including one for towns with less than 100,000 people (the smallest group). Guess who is NOT on the list? Provincetown did not make the top 25. I wonder why?

So maybe  (just maybe) instead of painting green lines gallery owners and VSB should get together and figure this one out.  It is a no brainer to have Provincetown on the list.  It just needs some promoting.  

When you look at the list you will be shocked who IS on there.
7:25 pm edt 

What is the Next Step?

Does anyone know if the abutters to the Bangs St. Fiasco have filed a law suit? What about a stop work order until everything is settled? People continue to post daily on this blog (which I think is a wonderful thing) but has anyone taken any legal action against this developer. Sounds to me like many by laws were broken? Someone has alluded to a possible bribe of a public official.. Is anyone going to do the research or contact a lawyer?

Inquiring Minds Want to Know
7:23 pm edt 

Bangs Street Extension No Longer Exist

What was Bangs St. Ext. has been appropriated by Judy Mencher as additional parking. The town has given her the right of appropriation by emminent domain, usually reserved for municipalities, but in this case the developers have the town officials in their back pockets so whatever you care to call it the situation remains the same. The developers own the town. The only solace we can take from this is that the land did not come cheap and our underpaid town officials did profit sufficiently from our misfortune.
I'm sure that Ms. Mencher will be generous enough to share her property acquisition with her direct abutter, Ted Malone, whenever he's ready to take his cut.
7:21 pm edt 

27-31 Bangs Street

Looking at the pics. I'm seeing brown tanks, piles of sand, heavy construction equipment, etc. from this project smack dab on Bangs St. Extension.  This developer does not own this private road and should not be using it as if she does.  This road is not part of the project yet the boundary line for construction has taken over the road.  You can see the bulldozer shaved where this road should be.  Is that how setbacks were determined?  Where are the stakes marking off this private dirt road abutters have rights to?  This was a "requirement" and I don't see any stakes at all.  Who is inspecting this mess?  Gunther Realty does not own Bangs St. Extension but it sure looks like it thinks it does now.  Is Bangs St. Extension going to become part of the parking area?  It had better not as abutters have deeded rights to it.  
3:38 pm edt 

Where Have You Been!

The library lawn is temporary until all of the building renovations are complete. The TOWN has voted TWO MILLION dollars for this. And yes $200,000.00 IS for the front lawn to be renovated.
3:33 pm edt 

Re: Pics
Just a technical note, when trying to access shoutout from an iPad or other device over a 3G network the picture loading time and bandwidth makes the site unusable. Shrinking the photo size or resolution or better yet, as suggested previously, posting either a thumbnail or one composite lower resolution photo would solve this.
11:42 am edt 

Temporary, My A-S !!!!!
The Library lawn has been in a disgraceful state of disrepair for years. Temporary ?  For how many more years?  The town is willing to pay 5 teachers for every student, but they wont buy a bag of grass seed? Oh, sorry, the town officials are too busy accepting "Presents" from developers all over town. All I can say is Shame on you.
11:35 am edt 

Please Clarify

Someone entered a brief comment yesterday that sounded very accusational. Affordable housing. Everyone knows that Gunther Realty is Judy Menchner, the Bangs St. developer. The inference is that Judy Menchner sold a condo to a town official for less than market value and then paid $60,000 extra? This sale should be publically recorded somewhere and should be reviewed. What was the $60,000 for and who was the town official? If true, this sounds like bribery of a town official and would be the answer for most of the Bangs St. questions. It is obvious to everyone that some secret deals were made behind the scenes.
9:54 am edt 

The Essence of 27-31 Bangs Street

Calls for discontinuing the documentation regarding the Bangs Street saga are nothing
more then a vailed attempt to put the lid on an issue that has all of the ingredients 
of corruption , favoritism and collusion and is in the process of boiling over.

Some people in town government are becoming quite disturbed that an investigation will
reveal their direct involvement and profiting from the promotion of this project.

Bangs Street is the poster-child that defines the method that developers working with town 
officials  planned to accelerate development in Provincetown.

It's not about Bangs Street. It's about Provincetown's future and who and how it will be controlled.

If they get away with Bangs Street, they can do it everywhere! 
9:53 am edt 

27-31 Bangs Street

People should be outraged at this.  Town officials were 100% fully aware of serious flags and concerns raised by abutters before and during this project's permitting process.  Town legal counsel claims no one spoke up when they had the chance and now a lawsuit must be filed for resolution because it is too late.  

She is wrong.  Abutters did complain numerous times when it was the proper time to do so.  They were the only ones who "went by the book" on this one. Every town board involved was made aware of concerns: Health, Conservation, Planning, etc. at the appropriate times during these meetings.  Every one of these legitimate concerns/complaints was completely ignored. Lester Murphy (Developer's legal counsel) publicly accused these abutters of "badgering" town officials with their concerns during one of the meetings.  

You won't find anything about his insults in the minutes though. Why is that? And now you get 4 out-of-scale modular buildings presented as 2 on 1/4 acre. with 8 bedrooms and septic leaching down onto a wetland, inadequate space, unlawful private road use, environmental damage, 2 complete buildings in a conservation buffer zone where no construction is supposed to take place, bylaws ignored, bylaws fabricated, not even close to the required minimum green space coverage, no public utility meeting, controlled construction and state building irregularities, etc., etc.  To present something one way and then build it another is an outrage.  The proof is in the pudding.

To present publicly a falsehood "no building about the crest of the dune to preserve the natural visual integrity of the land" is reprehensible.  Take a look for yourself.  The crest of the dune was clearcut and the building is at least one story over the top.  To state publicly in the Banner to mislead  - 2 bldgs. are 1 because of a "continuous foundation" is a falsehood.  Check the plans, no continuous foundations at all.  Your beloved town "officials" have shown what they are made of on this one.  Permits were handed out like beads at carnivale.  

Our Building Inspector didn't even know the abutter at the top of the hill had his foundation damaged.  There is only one way this project being allowed would make sense and I think people can figure out what that is.  That's the reality of it.  Not conjecture, not imagination.  Reality.  Lesser project denied before and then this gets through.  Come on.  Truck them in under the cover of darkness.  

I don't think these buildings are the only thing hidden under this cover.  and yes, I insinuate behind the scenes action.  There has to be, nothing else can explain it.      
9:36 am edt 

To: Beat the Project

By "beat the project" you suggest this is some type of game. This little dead end street has undeservedly taken a massive hit due to nothing but someone's pathetic greed and you defend it.  Probably even approved it at some point during the "permitting process".  You are partially correct about one thing though. It is more than frustrating when people actually defend the nonsensical calling it "legal".  Too little too late.  I think not.  
9:29 am edt 

Stop Making Trouble!

How crazy is it that someone on this blog thinks that the library lawn was going to stay in its present condition. It was only temporary, as are the steps until the major renovation on the building is complete. The conservation committee had no say in this matter. Stop trying to make a problem where there is none.
9:26 am edt 

Boards Are Effective

Fact is that when people in this town don't like something, we can go to a board or committee and complane and get it changed. Look at the issue of the green line! We got that changed. The town bends over backwards to please. So stop writing on this blog that something that you don't like must be illegal just because you didn't get what you wanted.
9:25 am edt 

Every issue you mentioned has a remedy. All allowances were asked for and approved by local boards. Nothing has been done illegally. If it had, a stop work order would be in place and the remedy would be presented. Correct? Remember the clearcutting on Route 6? Problem solved. How about the demolition of the old house (525 Commercial?)? Again, solved. Once again, lazy neighbors didn't do anything at the right time and now they sit and complain AFTER the fact. Now the legal process is much tougher. Everything was done legally and if you have questions, go striaght to the buiilding dept. or the committees that approved this matter. You will find everything is legal and above boards. You just don't like the looks of it and are frustrated that you can't beat the project. Too little, too late, too bad.
7:32 am edt 

Sunday, May 16, 2010

Remove Bangs Pictures!!

Same group complaining...we get it. Like all other complaints, where were you as abutters when you could have contested & raised flags during approvals from boards by making statements at proper time??
11:48 pm edt 


This is no longer a blog on all the issues facing this town, it is a pictoral on the webmaster's pet peeve.
11:47 pm edt 

Posting Times

Now there's a conspiracy that the same person is posting over and over because of the time stamp on the postings.

Get over yourself.  The posting times are obviously when the webmaster reads and posts them to the site which is why they are all in a time sequence and then a huge gap in time.

And I agree, please move the pics or at the very least minimize them.
11:46 pm edt 

Bangs St.
This makes me sick.  Unlawful, deceiptful, underhanded.  and she gets away with it along with her lawyer.  All 4 should be torn down and moved out immediately.  With a police escort paid for by the developer, not tax payers like when they were trucked in.  
11:45 pm edt 

Re: Public Library Lawn
Not true.
The lawn was put in as a final product 4-5 years ago and has deteriorated to what you see today from neglect. Had it been taken care of, there would be no need for replacement and thus a savings to the project and the town. In the future, it would be highly recommended to NOT put any erosion mat on the ground. The seeds will germinate and grow and take care of controling any wash of soils. Rely on people in the know who plant and take care of lawns, not someone who thinks in theory like most on these committees.
7:38 pm edt 

You find nothing legally wrong.  So sorry for the imposition.  Everyone else must be having "spells".  Read your bylaws and precedents.  When I do I find everything legally wrong.  No bylaw, in the buffer zone, inadequate abutter notification, clear cutting of protected resources, complete demolishment of indigenous species, mispresentation by legal counsel and engineers, conflicts of interest,  precedent ignorance, abutter damage, inadequate inspection and knowledge of and by town boards, and the list goes on and on.  And it's not in my back yard for sure  (NIMBFS)
7:37 pm edt 

Bangs Street Pictures
If you're going to keep these pictures here (which we have all seen by now and scroll past), could you at least make them thumbnails and link them all to another page where there can be larger images and maybe more derisive text on the project.
7:35 pm edt 

Move Bangs Street Photos

Any chance the Bangs St. photos could be moved to another part of this website? Maybe the end of the blog? Or at least resized to make them a bit smaller? They really are kind of annoying...
7:34 pm edt 

Such a Coincidence..........?

It is too much of a "coincidence" that the 2 postings requesting Bangs St. picture removal were 2 minutes apart.  A blogger suggested the same person was blogging over and over again about housing issues.  This same person complaining may be the one requesting removal of pics over and over again.  and 2 + 2 = 2, right.  Who do you work for?
7:16 pm edt 

Affordable Housing

I wonder how much profit was made when Willa Trust a.k.a. Gunther Reality sold a condiminium to a high P-town official. Subtract the un-necessary $60,000 mortgage.
7:14 pm edt 

To: "Enough"
Kerry Adams is an ongoing legal matter in a different realm.  Enough said.
Bangs St. is a physical abomination engineered by the greed of "strong" people allowed by "weak" people in town management.  Sure, out of sight, out of mind.  Nice try.  The "webmaster" may not be the only one offended by this.  In fact, anyone with the smallest amount of common sense living in Provincetown should be.  You must be really busy, important, whatever.  Good job to a webmaster who actually sees what is happening to this town for what it is and isn't afraid to let it be known.  Personal interest or not, it doesn't matter.  IT IS WRONG. Thank you webmaster.  
6:22 pm edt 

Please Webmaster

DO NOT take down the pictures of Bangs St.  Add more if you can.  Showing all FOUR in 1 shot.  If it takes a few extra seconds to download, a small price to pay for a horrible dishonor to this town and little neighborhood.  I have Comcast and it is instant.  The barge took up space also, and no one complained.  Perhaps one of the developer's slavish followers is requesting the removal.  What's your rush?  Got a dune to clear cut or some lady slippers to destroy?      
6:20 pm edt 

Public Library Lawn

The library lawn is only temporary. The conservation committee had no say in its creation. It was installed only to keep the soil from blowing away onto the street. The new lawn will be built after renovations to the building are finished.
6:19 pm edt 

Affordable Family Housing

I was a the meeting where the developers from Boston stated that there were going to be three bedroom and two bedroom units and then the one bedroom units.

Now 90 Shank Painter Rd. is going to be 50 units and the majority of them are one bedroom units. How many gay couples with their Chinese babies can live there, never mind how many families with mom, dad, Little Johnny and sister Sue?
6:17 pm edt 

Boycotting Bangs St.
Local craftsmen aren't being used.  Too expensive.  Locals won't be buying either don't worry.  Boycotting is an excellent idea.  Spread the word.  Abutters need to put up some signs.  No parking or turning on their property, especially that abutter right across the road with the condos.  Where are all those cars there last summer going to park now?  plus add at least 8 more if any of these eyesores actually sell.  Nice.    
4:47 pm edt 

You Have Missed the Entire Point

Yes, Provincetown has a beauty and its harbors and land is beautiful. It is exactly this treasure that need to be protected and not trampled on with over-development, cheap housing, high density, destroyed wetlands, cut down dunes, and clear cutting of native vegetation. 

The town does not just have beauty. It is earned when the residents work together to protect its greeness, protect its seas, and see that town regulations are enforced.

This is what is at stake with poor rulings, boards out of control and absent regulators.
4:44 pm edt 

Bangs St.reet

This didn't fall through a by-law loophole.  There is no by-law for this.  They based this on a definition, not a by-law.  There is a by-law stating no less than 9 feet between buildings.  They ignored the appropriate by-law.  No loophole.  The developer knows people in town hall, plain and simple.  Permits were given out when they shouldn't have been.  This is the only explanation that makes sense.  Behind the scenes dealings.    
4:41 pm edt 

Enough of the Bangs Street Photo's

I can understand your feelings on not posting things about Kerry Adams but I don't feel we should be subject to looking at the Bangs Street photo's either every day. It's obvious you are friends with Kerry and it's obvious you are the one who has issues with the Bangs Street stuff because if it was anyone else, you would of removed those photo's long ago. It's aggravating to have to scroll down 3/4 of the web page just to read about who's whinning now. Give us a break please.
4:40 pm edt 

27-31 Bangs Street Pictures

Ok, we've all seen the pictures of Bang's Street. Mr. Webmaster, isn't it about time you took them down so we don't have to scroll past them everytime we visit Shout Out? It's a bit of a pain.
4:38 pm edt 

Tea Party

After looking at recent writings on this blog, its clear that Provincetown has a tea party and its not the kind that's at the boatslip!
4:37 pm edt 

Why Did ConCon Get Involved in the Lawn of the Library?

Please don't tell me they decided this land was a "dune" and thus set up special criteria. If this is the case, then why are real dunes not defined as "dunes" but as piles of dirt? Perhaps ConCon needs more scientific training, deeper understanding of the environment. Or perhaps, they need new glasses to see what is actually in front of their aging and distorted eyes. At best, they are inconsistent. At worse, they show utter favoritism to some parcels of land, freeing some from tight regulations but demanding stringent adherence to others.
10:53 am edt 

Taxpayers Pay
Now we have a situation where the waste water treatment plant in underfunded, $2,000,000 has been given to affordable housing developers and the money is just sitting in accounts gaining interest.

If we had put this $2,000,000 towards paying for the library and town hall, we tax payers wouldn't be faced with paying for these renovations out of our pocket AND now paying to hook up to the waste water treatment plant.

The Powers that be rushed to give $3,000,000 to these housing developers and we taxpaying residents get no consideration and just keep paying and paying.
10:51 am edt 


"Re:Has anyone in this town taken a look around lately? We live in what is, in my opinion, one of the most asthetically pleasing towns in the entire country. Quit all your complaing and just stop to feel the absolute beauty that is Provincetown."

Yes, Provincetown is one of the most beautiful places in the country but that does not excuse what's going on.  This town has regulations to protect overdevelopment - what do you suggest ?  That we turn a blind eye and let this loophole development go on ?

Have you taken a walk down Bangs St lately ?
9:21 am edt 

You Have to be Kidding

The same guy Philip who place an ad denoncing the green line after the meeting is now hiring art barkers?  At least the line just laid on the street and didn't make any noise or pass out stuff that people toss on the streets.  What a classy move.  Maybe we should paint him a green line to the dog bark park where that idea belongs.
9:18 am edt 

Forensic Lifestyle Analysis
Charlie Baker has heard your plea. He is advocating for a Forensic Lifestyle analysis of anyone who receives State Benefits.

While people have won the affordable housing lottery and then had to return it because their true financial picture finally emerged, it isn't due to the deep probing of the selection committee. Some sprang from the outrage of people who knew the jobs and incomes of the applicant.

Now with a forensic lifestyle analysis we will know that the people who do get state benefits truly deserve them. Affordable housing, a vacation home and a business on Commercial street? How is this possible?

I still don't understand how a co worker who decided decades ago to work summers only and then collect unemployment while sunning in Florida all winter while we worked here year round suddenly is entitled to apply for affordable housing: isn't this self induced low income?

Collect unemployment and then work under the table in the service industry is par for the course here. Then apply for your low income housing and you are set for life.

I'm tired of people bragging about the winter in South America or their sunny winter sandy shore while I work and they return from another winter vacation.

Some of us work in businesses that are open all year at regular wages and some return with their tans from a winter of dangling their toes in the warm surf to start working at jobs that we never left.
9:17 am edt 

27-31 Bangs Street

Let's boycott the 27-31 Bangs St property. All local craftsman should refuse to work on the site. All locals should refuse to buy the buildings. If no one buys those hideous condos, then the developer won't make any money. Just have the abutters put up huge signs urging people not to buy them. Keep talking about it around town. Let whichever Real Estate agent in town who tries to sell it know that it will be the last sale they ever make in Provincetown. We need to pull together and not just keep posting on this site. Remember the developers are out to make a profit, if the profit is not there, they will move on.

We need to get these greedy bastards out of our town. Is there a way we can get a list of all of the "buildable" lots in town and have a meeting with the Building Commissioner to sit down and look at these lots and vote to let them be build on or not be built on when the time comes? We need to be proactive and stop this insanity of fitting buildings into stamp size lots.

What these developers are doing is akin to bullying. We have power in numbers, let's fight back and not sit back and be bullied.
9:15 am edt 

Re: 27-31 Bangs Street Development

How Did This Happen ?

Now that the hype is over, I've looked at the pictures and find nothing wrong legally. This type of development happens all over the town but it just now shows up in a particular persons backyard and he/she doesn't like it. (NIMBY anyone?) Where was the outrage when Malone did the same thing on Nelson Ave and elsewhere in town? How did this happen? It happens bacause nobody argues against the planning boards articles at town meeting that the voters approve. They pass and this is what you get. Don't want it to happen anymore? Take the bylaws apart and one by one, have them rescinded or repealed as it is your right to present articles through a citizens petition. Take the idea to town meeting and have them repealed. You'd be amazed at how many other bylaws fall due to overlap as a result of just one or two being removed. And then next year, do it again. Eventually, the townspeople will have their town back. Otherwise, how did this happen? Because the townspeople were/are lazy !
and non-caring about issues tht effect them.
9:13 am edt 

Get Involved!!

Hello, here is a list of meetings this week and a link for more info - Get involved!!

Monday, May 17th
→ Airport Commission - From 3:00 PM to 6:00 PM
→ Community Housing Council - From 9:30 AM to 11:30 AM
→ Planning Board Meeting - From 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM
→ Regional School District Planning Committee - From 4:00 PM to 5:00 PM

 Tuesday, May 18th
→ Community Preservation Committee - From 5:00 PM to 8:00 PM
→ Board of Selectmen - From 5:00 PM to 7:00 PM

 Wednesday, May 19th
→ Council on Aging - From 1:00 PM to 3:00 PM
→ Historic District Commission Meeting - From 3:30 PM to 7:00 PM
→ Visitor Services Board Meeting - From 3:00 PM to 6:00 PM

 Thursday, May 20th
→ Harbor Committee - From 4:30 PM to 7:30 PM
→ Board of Health Meeting - From 5:00 PM to 8:00 PM
→ Water & Sewer Board Meeting - From 3:00 PM to 6:00 PM
→ Zoning Board of Appeals - From 6:00 PM to 10:00 PM

 Friday, May 21st
 Saturday, May 22nd
9:11 am edt 

Affordable Housing

The real estate tax bills on affordable housing are effectively subsidized by all taxpayers in town.  Compare the tax bill on an affordable unit to a non-affordable unit in the same complex and you will see that the tax bill on the affordable unit is much lower.  Why should the other unit owners in the same complex have to subsize the affordable units condo maintenance fees as well?
9:10 am edt 


9:08 am edt 

Saturday, May 15, 2010

We All Lose When We Don't Have a Building Commissioner

And we, sadly and tragically, do not have a Building Commissioner. He is a phatom. He is never on site. He is never checking on construction. He is hardly outside. Oh, he is at town hall. But that's about all the on-site work this guy does.

We are a town without an actual, existant Building Commissioner. Why doesn't Sharon do something about his absence, his lack of regulating?

This guy has placed Our Town--both Provincetown and the ideal of this town--in jeopardy. Perhaps for developers--and how odd that he himself is a developer--he does this town damage. He allows a few select others--yes, developers--to ruin this town for their own individual profit. But the town itself loses in construction that should never be allowed.

Twoquestions: First, why would any town hire a developer as a Building Commissioner? Second, what does Russell Braun get in return? I often wonder.
11:35 pm edt 

Look Around
Has anyone in this town taken a look around lately? We live in what is, in my opinion, one of the most asthetically pleasing towns in the entire country. Quit all your complaing and just stop to feel the absolute beauty that is Provincetown. Can you feel it? I do.All this     goes down in every town in Massachusetts, get on with the important part of your lives, living. D. Newcombe.
11:33 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall
"Why is the "lawn" in front of the public library in such a deplorable state? The lack of care makes the "in progress" building look even more derelict."

The reason is as you describe, no attention. The lawn was laid out perfectly and then some committee, I think the conscom for some reason, decided to place an erosion mat over the seed and loam and thus the deplorable state of the lawn. You can't mow over an erosion mat. The fiber gets caught in the blades. But of course, these committees know better. There wouldn't be any erosion if the grass were allowed to grow and stabilize the soil. But NOOOOOOOO. Everyone knows better.
11:31 pm edt 

RE: "How do You Find Out...." AKA Nosy Neighbor
You can call the Department of Community Development and ask if there is a rental certificate on file for the property.
11:29 pm edt 

Affordable Housing Lottery

And you can tell the person drawing numbers is impartial because?  And you aren't aware of connections so there aren't any because?  In good vs. evil, good always wins.  Only in fairy tales my dear.  U R either eating gullible stew or simply dillusional.
11:28 pm edt 

You Are So Naive

The complaints against a fair lottery are so many that the Ted malone Bid Lottery Machine had to have a least two or three locals finally--after many years--get a place. Just look back five years and you'll see that no town residents ever received local affordable housing.\

 But there you are, in the front seat and you think that what's in the hat is equal? How foolish and naive you are. You have no idea what's in the hat. I pull out a number and the sheets that have registered the offocial numbers change depending on whose number comes out.

It is rigged. Ted Malone is corrupt. You, sir or madam, are but a naive ticket holder to a film that will never occur.

How naive can anyone be? Look in the mirror and you'll get your answer.
11:27 pm edt 

Friend Problem
Please don't feel bad.  You are right.  Your "friend" doesn't deserve you in the least.  If there were more people like you this town wouldn't be in such a mess.  Whoever he/she is, they blew it.  Thank you.  
11:25 pm edt 


Oh, so now we have the affordable housing condo owners who feel that they are entitled to pay less fees that the rest because they have reduced-price condo. Well, the solution is to get another job.

I sweated and worked and took no vacations to get my house and no one gives me a break. Talk about spoiled little brats who feel entitled to have everyone else pay their way.

11:24 pm edt 

All Pay For Sewer System
We are cleaning up our town the more we are on the waste water sewer system. We all pay for the school; we can all pay for the sewer system.

Hurrah! to the Board of S. for making everyone hook up who is Red Dot Delay.
11:22 pm edt 

Room Full of People
I don't understand. There was a room full of people at the Bangs street meeting at the Grace Gouveria building. We talked about affordable housing jumping on this loophole of two buildings making one.

Someone keeps posting that all of these postings are by one person...Believe me, they are not!
11:18 pm edt 


The sun is shining the cash registers are ringing and people smiling. Thank you Lord Forgive us our tresspasses as we forgive those tresspass against us. Help us to live together in harmony and peace.
11:17 pm edt 

Hello! Anyone Out There?

Ms. Bataglini is a member of the Planning Board.  I left a  message for her with Ms. Notaro, which is what the website instructs, as Ms. Notaro is the Planning Board Coordinator.  Ms. Bataglini should have gotten the message Thursday morning. These people call each other all the time.  I won't be holding my breath.  She was quite adamant in the abutters meeting to defend herself against a conflict of interest claim.  Fir was up, too adamant I'd say.  

11:16 pm edt 

Hear Ye Hear Ye!

How do you promote an art gallery? Denounce the Green Line like the ad says then hire art barkers for Commercial Street like the gallery in the ad did to bring people off of commercial street. Woof Woof buy my art.  I wonder if that fits in his what hawthorne and the arts heritage he talks all about so knowingly would do.  There are enough barkers on the street for shows and restaurants and special events.  Now we are going to add to the Carnival like atmosphere with an art barker. Maybe every business on the street should have a barker. Oh what would the pilgrims have done to promote the Mayflower.
11:14 pm edt 

To "The Blogger"

More than "1" blogger is discussing affordable housing being corrupt in this town with the Ted Malones and Judy Menchers being allowed to run wild.  Should all be stifled because you disagree?  What are you hiding?  These two should be ashamed for what they have done to this town and continue to do with the help of their cohorts in town hall.  They should all be         .  To have a bathroom fit for show funded by "affordable" units and to be so proud you display it in a magazine is shameful. I'm lucky my toilet flushes sometimes and I can afford toilet paper even though I work fulltime.  Finally, people are seeing the light and now you want the shade to be pulled because you don't agree.  Discussion is healthy.  Didn't your therapist tell you that?  Making money is the American Dream but comeon, do you have to ruin a town to make a killing? over and over again with the help of town government.  All people offended by this should file a class action suit against these people and town officials who allow it based on principle alone. I predict the units on Bangs St. will eventually fall into a sinkhole but the developer will be long gone by then. I wouldn't buy one of these if the developer paid me instead of me paying her.  Disgusting.
11:12 pm edt 

I Have a Problem ....
Here's my problem - a developer has been my friend.  I am so upset with what they have done with one of their  developments, I don't know what to do.

Even though this person has been my friend,  I can't believe what they have done to take advantage of our beautiful town. I have been happy for their past successes and they have made alot of money. But when you have alot of money, why take advantage ?  Build your development in line with town regulations and make a fair profit, but don't do everything possible to find every loophole and take advantage.

This is our beautiful town and we all try to do our best to protect it. This person should be ashamed of themselves to walk amoungst our community and expect to be embraced.

From writing this my problem has been solved - I can no longer call this person my friend.
9:55 am edt 

Town Hall

Why is the "lawn" in front of the public library in such a deplorable state? The lack of care makes the "in progress" building look even more derelict.
9:53 am edt 

Did I Miss a Post or Was an Answer Posted?

How do you find out if a neighbor that rents daily , weekly , have the proper certificates from the town?
9:52 am edt 

To: The Blogger Who Keeps Saying the Affordable Housing Lotteries Are Rigged...

Have you ever been to one?  They are open to the public, I have applied twice... numbers go into the jar, and all numbers come out of the jar, they are drawn be an impartial person..
the last time three folks won housing.  One is a local artist, one a local business owner and another a woman who has lived here for years..
As far as I can tell none of these folks have anything to do with Mr. Malone.  in this particular drawing another local man who has lived here for 10 years came in 4th, and I can in 5th...
Go to the next lottery and see for yourself the process it is all done out in the open... .
9:50 am edt 

Hush Up?
Accident on High Pole Hill Road.  I asked someone if they had heard or seen anything written on the accident. They told me that accidents are usually not reported if there were no injuries to the driver or the passengers or; if they only sustained minor injuries.
9:48 am edt 

To: the Low Income/Affordable Housing Condo Fees

I thought condo fees were factored into the affordable monthly expenses and they could only go up to a certain amount on condo fees for those individuals who own an affordable unit.  

How can you expect someone who has an affordable housing unit to pay a mortgage plus a monthly condo fee that is half of what the monthly mortgage is. Sounds to me like the market rate unit owners don't want affordable units in their complex, so let's have the association raise the condo fees.  Affordable units owners should be part of the Board of Trustees to have a say as well.

On another note, as for affordable housing rental units,  the affordable housing rental rates are rediculous.  People don't make that much money to pay these rates. You have to work two jobs just to make enough to pay the rent and hope there's enough money left over to eat for the month.
9:47 am edt 

Ellen Battaglini

If you called Town Hall to speak to Ellen Battaglini then you called the wrong place. So, if you didn't get an answer back, that's why.  As an abutter to a couple of different projects in my area of town I attended some of the different board meetings and I noticed she was taking minutes so I asked someone who she was, as I was not familiar with her. Having lived here for several years, I thought I knew everybody since Provincetown is only so big. They told me she was the recording secretary for the commission and a couple of other boards and it was mentioned that she worked in the private sector during the day.
9:45 am edt 

Banner Ad

I don't know who this Philip guy is but isn't the green line thing over?  Why is he running an ad in this week's Banner?  Something is not too together in his thinking.
9:43 am edt 

Re: Hush Up?
"Why is the "accident" off of High Pole Hill and onto Alden Street being hushed up?  Is the Truro police chief really that powerful in Provincetown?"

She had an accident and she was alright considering. What cover up would you be refering to? Can't a person have an accident? Are you that perfect?
9:42 am edt 

There are a number of residents who consider affordable housing to be less than legitimate in this town.

The authorities would allow no one's name to be dragged through the mud unless there was some truth behind it.

It is the taxpayers who make this town run; at some point the taxpayers needs will have to be addressed.

Lets hope that the powers that be look at the needs of everyone--not just their developer friends. Red dot properties will have to connect to the sewer system even though some restauants spent many thousands for their septic systems..
9:40 am edt 

"Big Ideas for the Bath"
Like many a big-city apartment dweller, I have bathroom envy. I have a bathroom, of course, but it's strictly by the numbers. Functional.

So when I see a bathroom like this one (designed by Boston-based Frank Roop for clients Nicole Polaski and Judy Mencher, a couple of women who happen to be legally married under Massachusetts law), my little envy meter just flies to the highest possible number, and I want it. I want it bad."

Taken straight from the worldwide web.  I wonder if Ms. Mencher put bathrooms this nice in her prefabs on Bangs St.  I doubt it but at least it explains what she does with all that money our little town allows her to make.  over and over again at the neighborhoods' expense.  

9:38 am edt 

Affordable Housing Lottery

I don't think the idea that the affordable housing lottery in town is corrupt is crazy at all.  It is right on.  Ask anyone who has waited and waited and continues to be turned down, over and over again.  Ask someone who has been approved almost immediately while they work for the summer.  Better yet, compare their tax returns and bank accounts, in state and out.
9:36 am edt 

Some of the Affordables Did Turn Into Market Rate
Look at Monica's affordable. Then look at Pam Parmagian's. All sold at market rate. So what you have is Ted Malone getting his employees housing as afffordable and then they can make a profit on the once-affordable. That is the same situation with Rex McKenzie's affordable. He can sell it at market rate. And also the affordable that A.J. Allon has. He too can sell it at market rate. When these condominiums go to market rate, then they are deducted from the affordable housing pool. And then we say: Oh, we now need more affrodable housing.

It is a sham. It is sheer trickery. TEd Malone has found a profitable way to get workers at a certain wage, then promise them housing and also promise that their "friends" and Lovers can also get affordable housing. Malone is a man who has kept his "promise." How? It's the luck of the draw. That's how Monica's, Pam's, A.J.'s and Rex's names were "selected" from the TEd Malone organized and "legitimized" lottery.

Amazing, how Lucky these Ted Malone workers are!
9:35 am edt 

Friday, May 14, 2010

Simple Questions.....No Answers

Don't we have a bigger broom to sweep all the town problems further under the carpet, this time for good, so no one has to be bored with them over and over again.  or we could just report them all to the Attorney General and maybe in 10 years they might call back.  What good are town officials if they can't answer simple questions about their town that they get PAID to represent and manage?  How much money have developers put back into this town as required by law for each of the last 10 years? What was the water quality in 2009?  Why was a lesser construction project on Bangs St. Extension denied before and now a larger construction project is blessed by all departments in town hall?        
P.S. Ellen Bataglini didn't return the phone call.  Point taken.  
4:03 pm edt 

Contacted Mary Ann Bragg

Thank you for printing the article written by Mary Ann Bragg. I contacted her and she convinced me to contact the authorities and suggested that I confide in them, which I did.

Shout Out! encouraged a good deed.
3:24 pm edt 


Do we really have to read someones crazy idea about affordable housing being unfair ETC ETC ETC. Over and over again? If you think that things are being done illegal, report it to the state attorney general. Ranting the same things on this blog will not change anything. Do something about the problems you repeatedly bring up on this blog. We, the readers of this blog have heard you now for years. We can not help you with this problem.
3:23 pm edt 


I know the whole green line thing is finally over (and thank goodness,) but, um, did anyone happen to read the bizarre and rambling ad taken out in this weeks Banner by the owner of the Henry Philips Gallery?

Who is Philip N. Desmaris? Can you believe the tone of that ad? It's written like some Royal proclamation. "The Henry Philips Gallery Denounces The Green Line Proposal..."

Well, I hope I never do anything to get on His Highness' nerves, lest he take out an ad "denouncing" me.
3:01 pm edt 

To: Not a Town Employee

To call this a "dead horse" issue indicates either you couldn't care less about the problem or you have something to hide and want to divert attention.  Helping year-round residents who are falling through the cracks should be our main focus... and it is not. Instead, their problems land on deaf ears and they are constantly stepped over.  This is wrong.  These people, some who have been born here, some not, some of which have no choice, struggle to stay here with the cards stacked against them for the winter.  They are the ones who keep this town breathing through the cold weather.  Instead of worrying about a green line we should be worrying about how these people are going to make ends meet.  No, instead they are forced to the back of the line by their own town officials. They are told to get behind seasonal workers and part-time landlords/property owners who make seasonal appearances contributing nothing but taking as much as they can get including available affordable ho!
using and unemployment.  Is it too much to ask for something actually being just fair for a change?  When it is going to stop?  Town officials and developers work together to cherry pick candidates who abuse the system.  Wake up Provincetown and take care of your own, even if you have to revolt against the present dictatorship to do it.          
2:58 pm edt 

Town Workers
I work with a guy who has nothing but disgust for the affordable housing "dispensers". He went to them and they told him that he makes too much to rent a place--but not enough to buy a place.

And yet he wonders how these other people get it who have a business etc.

Before they changed the rule, it used to be that you could buy an affordable housing home, wait a number of years and then sell it for the going open Market rate. Great deal when things went sky high a few years ago.

Buy low and sell high and live high on the hog the rest of your life.
12:47 pm edt 

New Business
I could have a business on commercial street and travel to Europe too if my spouse and I lived in an affordable housing unit with a lifetime of set taxes to pay etc.

The law requires that affordable housing developers give money to the towns where they build their housing empires. Where is it written we find out how much our developers have given back to the town?
11:33 am edt 

Re: Lottery Allegations

Posting Dec 2007: "No wonder it's friends of friends of the developer who happily are "selected" for the lottery."

Posting May 2010: "It is simply corrupt. It is rigged and friends of friends of Ted Malone get their names pulled out of the magician's hat. Luck? Yes, if you are intimately involved in anyone who works for Ted Malone, then you're first in line....."

Really, 3 years later and we're still beating on this dead horse?  If you think the lottery is corrupt and have any shred of evidence other than your imagination go to the district attorney. Otherwise, please don't bore us again with your unfounded allegations. They were a lie in 2007 and they are a lie now.

- not a town employee, etc.
10:15 am edt 

Town Hall Minions Involved

Town lawyer being called regarding housing and fee issues is a bad joke.  Town counsel is a lawfirm from Boston.  The Bangs St. Ext. developer is a lawyer from Boston.  All donate to the same obscure political campaigns (public record).  Condos fees are high. Lotteries are corrupt.   Thats the magic of building "affordable housing" using public funding.  These developers aren't about to lose a dime in the interest of the community.  Enough is enough. People seem to finally be waking up to what's been going on in this town for way too long.  Town officials giving approvals to their buds have gone too far. There are other ways to handle problems and new construction isn't the only answer.  This town survived hundreds of years and could perhaps even thrive once more, but only if the bloodletting stops and we start taking care of our own.  New unneeded construction needs to be stopped. Period. And those projects in progress that are blatant violations need to be invest!
igated.  Unethical, you bet.  I would bet more than one of these developers' minions in town hall would boil to the top of this soup.
10:13 am edt 

Affordable Housing

I have lived here for years and the idea of a "fair" affordable housing lottery has become a joke around town. I know long time year round residents who don't even bother trying anymore because time and time again they've seen rigged lotteries awarding the affordable units to people who are well connected (it's a small town, it isn't hard to connect the dots.)

I know one guy who got an affordable unit and owns property in another state that he sublets. I know of another couple who own units who rent one out. Isn't this against the rules?

It wouldn't be hard to investigate and prove these charges, but the powers that be seem to like things the way they are.
10:11 am edt 

Hush Up?

Why is the "accident" off of High Pole Hill and onto Alden Street being hushed up?  Is the Truro police chief really that powerful in Provincetown?
10:09 am edt 

Lonely Winters

I just read in the Banner that we have 27 new businesses opening in Provincetown this season. NO SURPRIZE! People are smart. Open a business under a corporate name, work for 4 months and then lay yourself off and get unemployment for the rest of the year. What a life style! Also move to a warmer clime to enjoy the checks electronically deposited in your account. Provincetown, just as the recent head librarian said is a desolate and lonely place to stay for a winter. Thanks Banner for reporting how awful it is to live a winter here. I'm sure lots of people will be influenced by this report.
10:07 am edt 

To: Who Are You Kidding
I'm with you.  How more deceitful can that lottery be?  Why is none from the public present when thelotteries are drawn?  They should be drawn by an impartial person.  Not anyone affiliated with housing.  The list should also be placed in lottery by the same person who draws, that way you know all the names who applied are present...  

Lets see who's name was drawn for the vacant unit on Old Colony Way?  That will be another mystery.....
7:12 am edt 

Thursday, May 13, 2010

Who Are You Kidding?

Honest Housing Lottery? What Planet do You Live On?

It is simply corrupt. It is rigged and friends of friends of Ted Malone get their names pulled out of the magician's hat. Luck? Yes, if you are intimately involved in anyone who works for Ted Malone, then you're first in line. HOw lucky Rex McKenzie was. How lucky A.J. was. How lucky Monica was. How lucky Pam Parmagian was. All of them working for Ted Malone except Rex who is a partner of Ted Malone's paid employee.

It is a carnival barker's game. And the public is the foolish crowd waiting for the show to start.

   If you want affordable housing, here's my advice: go out, date and you know what someone working for Ted Malone. And surprise of all surprise, your name will eventually be pulled from the magician Malone's deep, dark, black hat.
11:36 pm edt 

27-31 Bang Street

Has anyone looked into the Bangs Street building fiasco to see if anyone is on the take? Sounds to me like possible ethics violations? Who knows? Somebody knows something...
11:30 pm edt 

Thank You
Thanks to MYPACC and "SHOUT OUT" I was able to get Mary Ann Bragg's email address. I've been calling her, but I have not been able to reach her and I do not want to leave my number.

Due to MYPACC printing the article from the paper, I was able to get her e-mail address and ask her when it would be convienient to contact her.
11:29 pm edt 

Ms. Battaglini

I did call Ms. Battaglini today and left a message.  She hasn't returned the call... maybe tomorrow, oh that's right, town hall is closed on Fridays.    
11:26 pm edt 

27-31 Bang Street

I think the people on this street, the whole town for that matter, should be outraged that this woman got approval for these 4 oversized, hideous prefabs that are crooked on this little dead end. Something serious is very wrong here.  Permits or not, there is no way this can be legal.  The previous owner got denied and this gets through?  These "permits" and those handing them out need some detailed further review.
11:24 pm edt 

Stagnant Menus

While talking about restaurants, most of the restaurants
in town, bubala,s the red inn etc. have had the same
menus for years !!! please restaurant owners, mix it up
a bit !!!
11:23 pm edt 

I understand the town lawyer is being called re housing issues and fees..  There must be some guidelines set...  How can one low income owner pay one condo fee while another pays higher?  All fees should be set the same no
matter on the size of the unit....  Who sets the fees?
11:21 pm edt 

Ellen Bataglini and Developer, Judy Mencher

A connection between Ellen Bataglini and this developer, Judy Mencher.  Has to be.  Why else would a town official in her "official" capacity change her position full circle? Isn't she an abutter also from Willow St.?  Isn't that a conflict of interest to vote on this in the first place?  I would not doubt more "connections" exist between town officials and the "chosen" few developers that continue to be allowed to milk this town dry. To ask Ms. Bataglini this question would have the same result as the abutters meeting.  Straight forward question, convoluted answer. Take it to court if you want justice.  People who really care about this town need to send a message that we are tired of having our town used.  The Ted Malones and Judy Menchers aren't developing out of the kindness in their hearts to those needing affordable housing.  Wake up.  Provincetown is their bottomless money pit.  There are plenty of other towns they can ruin to make a quick buck.   Go pick on!
 someone else.  and your buddies in town hall will just have to survive without you.  High condo fees are not at all a surprise.  That's part of the ruse.  
11:20 pm edt 

Maybe the BOS should paint a bright pink line from Lopes Square to the Red Inn one week before Town Meeting next year in 2011 and hopefully 400-500 voters will show up and participate in the democratic process instead of being in Ft. Lauderdale, Mexico, New York or Boston or even Jamaica in the winter. Most open his or her business for 4-5 months and leave. Those who collect unemployment or don't pay taxes and sit at home and live off the system and complain should get off their duff and also try to be pro-active and positive. Their are many of us still remaining who are full time residents who work hard, volunteer, hold funraisers month after month, gay and straight and everywhere in between who live and moved here for a reason. It is like no other place in the worlds and we need to bring more postive energy back. We need a grass roots reshuffling of the "deck". The BOS have lacked vision and leadership and will only change if the electorate wants it to change. The Town Manager and Asst. Town Manager have to step up to the plate and become true leaders in this community as well. The citizens of this town need to organize and try to move the conversation and vision of "our" town in a new  positive direction. This is the second time I have posted on this blog and maybe I am naive but I have invested my life's savings in my business and years of sweat equity and I would like to continue on the path to be successful and give back to the community in any way I can but we all have to do it together if we are to be successful.
11:17 pm edt 

Affordable Housing - Prove it
Anyone who gets an affordable housing unit should have to present utility bills and pay stubs for the year proving that they actually live here and work here full time.

If they do not - there is no need for them to have an affordable housing unit. If this were the criteria the demand for these necessary units would decrease.
11:14 pm edt 

Affordable Condo Fees

Am I correct that someone thinks a person owning an affordable condo should pay a lower condo fee than the people with a market rate condo? This idea is just plain nuts. The last thing a person struggling to pay a hefty mortgage needs to do is to is subsidize a neighbor paying half their mortgage. I guess maybe we should subsidize car payments and insurance because food stamps do not cover cigarettes.
11:13 pm edt 

No Comments Allowed About Kerry Adams

None of my Kerry Adams post have been published here. The webmaster is not
allowing any comments here regarding Kerry Adams. The result is that I'm calling
the Cape Cod Times and telling them what I've witnessd in the past.

Webmaster Comment: Given the extreme nature of the issues surrounding this subject, including the fact that it is an active on-going legal matter. Shout Out! will neither accept pro or con comments regarding this case. 

As for your calling other media, that is your prerogative.

11:32 am edt 

Maybe You Should Ask Ellen Battaglini

She was the one who denied a town resident the request to divide the
parcel of  land he had for thirty years into four parcels. As a member of
Planning, she  said it would not be good for the neighborhood.

Then in 2005 when he wanted to  divide the land into two parcels
and put up two houses, Ellen Battaglini, as a  member of Planning,
again denied him. Battaglini said that BAngs Street  Extension was
only a paper street and that the road itself needed work and  couldn't
accomodate the two houses. Then in 2008, Ellen Battaglini found  absolutely
no problem with four houses on the same piece of land and found no  problem
that this development would disturb the neighborhood. She found no  problem
with the road that years before she believed was a paper road.  So ask Battaglini.
Everything she held as reasons to deny a town resident his  right to develop this
land minimally was throw away when a developer who she  obviously knew
requested to develop this parcel. This time, Battaglini  considered the request
for variances and overdevelopment not a problem at all.  Maybe you should ask
her how often she and the developer met and spent time  together.

Just ask her.
11:08 am edt 

Affordable Housing Lottery

All housing lotteries are honest, if you know otherwise please report it to the state
attorney general.

Didn'T we address this issue on here before!?!
10:59 am edt 

Wednesday, May 12, 2010

Winter Restaurants

Georges pizza is open year round.
11:49 pm edt 

Winter Restaurants

Fanizzi's restaurant is open every month year round.
11:47 pm edt 

By Mary Ann Bragg, Cape Cod Times

PROVINCETOWN — A criminal complaint was issued yesterday in Orleans District Court charging Provincetown School Committee member Kerry Adams with one count of indecent exposure from an incident on Jan. 30.

The complaint is brought against Adams based on an allegation — generally speaking — that he intentionally exposed his genitals or buttocks to one or more people who were offended by it, according to a court document.

The details of a state police report describing the incident were impounded yesterday by Orleans District Court Judge Brian Merrick. He cited the ages of the alleged victims as a reason to shield the report from public view.

But Adams, 49, said yesterday the charge is bogus. He said he allowed two boys he had chaperoned for a church confirmation class earlier in the winter to play pool a few times — at their request — at the Knights of Columbus hall in Provincetown. The confirmation class had held a "teen night" at the hall, and the two boys had wanted to return to play more pool, he said.

But later, the civic group discovered that 39 "nip" bottles of liquor had been stolen, Adams said. When confronted about a possible break-in or possible theft, at least one of the boys said Adams had exposed himself to them.

"I'm pretty much speechless right now," Adams, an officer of the Knights of Columbus, said yesterday.

Adams said he supervised the boys each time as they played pool, and drove one of them home. His own children were in the same room as the pool table and also downstairs eating pizza at a restaurant, he said. "My own kids were in and out," Adams said. "They knew I was there."

Adams is also an appointed board member of the Provincetown Public Pier Corp. and an insurance agent in Provincetown. He will be arraigned June 1. In lieu of an arrest, he was issued a summons yesterday to appear in court for his arraignment. He said he plans to hire an attorney.

The penalty for the charge is jail or house of correction for not more than six months, a fine of not more than $200, or both.

Adams was just re-elected to the five-member school committee at the May 4 town election, in an uncontested race. He was first elected to the board in May 2007, and his current term ends 2013. He is also an appointed member of the Cape Cod National Seashore General Management Plan Implementation Advisory Committee.

The investigation began with the Provincetown police department, Provincetown police chief Jeff Jaran said yesterday.

Jaran said that he asked the state police to take the case given its complexity and to avoid any appearance of local bias. Cape and Islands First Assistant District Attorney Brian Glenny declined to comment yesterday.

10:43 pm edt 


We haven't seen a lottery done honestly yet....It's amazing who is getting the housing and who's not....  All you get when you call is" there are so many people waiting"

Yeh right,  why are there so many non-residents in them?

Let's give to our own first.....  Those who have ties and connections with the town.  Not transients who strolled in and WOW got a unit.....  

I SAY STOP... STOP.... STOP.....  We don't need anymore..  Unless, they want to make the Murchisons into housing...  right in the yard of TED...   Can't wait to see what happens when those units go up!

Sorry Ted...  keep your blinds down......
10:31 pm edt 

Low Income:
I was disgusted to hear from a friend who owns a low income home that her condo fees are as much as her mortgage.  That is sinful.....  What was even worse, she phoned Ted Malone who basically blew her off.  Then phoned Michelle Couture who was equally as ignorant..

The low income SCAM needs to STOP !!!!!  We do not need any more HIGH INCOME housing...  Because LOW INCOME is just a name......

It's time Malone and Couture step away from this issue and give it to someone who is HONEST !!!!!
10:29 pm edt 

Year Round Restaurants
Michael Shay's is open every month year round and so is the Mews and Napis. What other restaurant is open year round every day?
10:27 pm edt 

Time to Adjust One's Reality

Greed, Time to Adjust One's reality and That Includes Stopping Mega Projectrs, Mega Town Hall Rehab and Lib Rehab and now Police Station

This is a five month town. It is a tourist town and the rest of the year, few are here and we need fewer and fewer resources. Cut town employees. Cut the police to be mroe seasonal. It's a deception to hire more and rent new cruisers. It's a five month town and our bills and expenses should be five months. We don't need full time everyones.

Then put the real workers on a five day week and no more free lunch with doors closed at noon. We could do well with half of the staff. You've got 900 here in the winter, a few more around the winter edges. People have left and will not return. the services they need are bing met in Fort Lauderdale, Vieques, San Miguel. Face the reality and make the appropriate cuts.

And you don't need affordable housing in the large numbers proposed because there is nothing for them to do seven months of the year. Therea re no jobs here. It's seasonal rentals, seasonal workers and seasonal residents. That's the reality and let's stop the sham of full-time everything.
10:24 pm edt 

Bangs St. Extension
I am still confused by the fact that a lesser project on this same land was denied 2 times in the past because of concerns over the neighborhood and the land.  Then these 4 monsters were allowed by the same people who denied the other times?  Why did they change their minds?  This project has caused much more natural damage than the other two would have for sure.  How could they change their minds on this when they set a "precedent" by denying before? This is such an awful project.  
3:42 pm edt 


High School closing, uncontested elections, three year-round restaurants, etc.

Provincetown is dead as a year-round community.  Heck, half the supposed year-rounders spend 2-4 months in Florida and Mexico every year.

And yet the "locals" (of which I am one!) cling hopelessly to this notion that things are what they once were.

Time to face reality folks and adjust our infrastructure, bylaws and reality to the fact that we are now a 6 month (at best) vacation town.
3:23 pm edt 

Using Existing Units For Affordable Housing Not an Option

Since the need for these new affordable units is so dire, which one is it?

All 4 separate units on Bangs St. Ext. are going to be rented out to low-income year round residents at an affordable rate.  

All 4 units are going to be sold as "affordable" meaning $200,000.00 instead of $650,000.00 a piece.

All 4 units will be sold for a $650,000.00 a piece and then the new owner of one will rent it out as an affordable housing to a yearround resident while the other 3 are rented out in the summers only and sit empty the rest of the time.

3 will be sold for a couple million and the last one sold much cheaper say $400,000.00 less.

3 will be sold for a couple million and the last one rented out to a poor yearround resident who can't afford to rent the other 3 just like it.  

To say this development helps the affordable housing problem in any way is ridiculous.  and to present it for permitting as such is shameful. and to think it was approved, even more shameful.              
3:21 pm edt 

To: Affordable Housing

So rather than get creative with already existing rentable units, keep jamming new ones in for the declining population.  Priceless.  No one would ever think of taking the food off the table of these part-time summer landlords or taking their property by eminent domain, but how about some simple incentives.  I'm not a professional like you obviously but here are some suggestions taken from other towns who do it very successfully.      
Landlords and developers are business people who depend upon a profit margin to stay in business and fully understand the role of financial incentives. They are also often concerned with protection of their assets and limiting the amount of tenant relations issues and legal action that is sometimes required. For this reason, programs that include a monetary incentive may attract topquality participants.  Like:
· Tenant-based rent subsidies.
· higher Rent deposits
· Finders fees.
· Lease signing bonuses.
· Public loans to rehabilitate structures.
· Use of public assistance funds and Social Security Insurance payments for rent.
· Damage deposit and payments.
· Rent payment guarantees.
· Allowances for unlawful retainer or eviction costs.
· Housing agencies co-signing leases with clients.
· Above-market rent to compensate for potential rent losses.
· Resources to provide credit checks for potential residents.
· Legal assistance to the landlord.
and another plus is there is peace of mind with knowing someone is taking care of your house for the winter and you don't have to go through the hassles of summer renting.   Instead of funding the same handful of developers over and over for new construction, take this money and use it to subsidize rents for already existing units.
12:46 pm edt 

Just Wait

Just wait until people see the five or so buildings that will be constructed in the hollow basin next to the Cumberland farms on Shank painter Rd. The "eventual" residents will complain about the people at Cumbie's gas pumps talking on cell phones at 11pm at night, loud music from cars (noise carries) and about the oil trucks backing up and beeping early in the morning at Cape Cod Oil.

With all of the meetings etc. about the green line, no one paid attention until the town woke up one morning to the green line running down the street.

It appeared and the uproar ensued. Now it is history.

Just wait until the town residents wake up to see 5 buildings at 90 Shankpainter Rd. More buildings on the way to beach forest are on the docket too. And $3,000,000 of taxpayer money was given to award winning developers who own housing developments all around the state.

Go to Bangs Street ext. and see the future look of Provincetown.
8:47 am edt 

New Affordable Housing

A blogger writes to stop building new affordable housing (here we go again). And to designate affordable housing to units already built that sit empty 9 1/2 months out of the year instead of putting up more. My question to the blogger, shall we (the town) just take these private unused units by eminent domain? Should we take your home? The reason we need more rental housing in this town is because condo units do not rent to town year rounders at an affordable rent.
8:41 am edt 

To: Re: Water
There is no need to insult with your "sad, sad" remark.  Perhaps you project.  Conspiracy, maybe, need to be cautious and look out for ourselves, definitely.  Who else is going to do it?  Those who allow clear cutting of dunes and green lines?  Yeah, okay.  
8:40 am edt 

To: Homeowner

No one is calling anyone a liar.  However, if a 25% admitted margin of error occurs, that's just bad business which seems to be the case across the "boards".  It's 2010, not 1996.  A 5% margin is too much.  Do other Cape towns experience this? I don't think so.  Where are the figures for 2009?  

To Rte. 6 Takeover

The development cartel will happily cover these additional costs as a thank you to the town for its boundless willingness to line their pockets.  In the event they overpay, you can put the check in the queue for later use next year.    
8:39 am edt 

Tuesday, May 11, 2010


A criminal complaint was issued today in Orleans District Court charging Provincetown School Committee member Kerry Adams with one count of indecent exposure from an incident on Jan. 30, court records indicated.

The charge is brought against Adams, 49, based on allegations that he intentionally exposed his genitals or buttocks to one or more people who were offended by it. The details of a state police report describing the incident were impounded today by Judge Brian Merrick. Merrick cited the ages of the victims as a reason to shield the report from public view.

Adams, who is also an appointed board member of the Provincetown Public Pier Corporation and an insurance agent in Provincetown, will be arraigned June 1. In lieu of an arrest, Adams was issued a summons today to appear in court for his arraignment, court records indicated.

The penalty for the charge is jail or house of correction for not more than six months, a fine of not more than $200, or both.

Adams was not available for comment early this afternoon. He was just re-elected to the five-member school committee at the May 4 town election, in an uncontested race. His term ends 2013. He is also an appointed member of the Cape Cod National Seashore General Management Plan Implementation Advisory Committee.

The investigation into the incident began with the Provincetown police department, Provincetown police chief Jeff Jaran said today. Jaran said that he asked the state police to take the case given its complexity and to avoid any appearance of local bias. Cape & Islands First Assistant District Attorney Brian Glenny declined to comment about the case today.

6:36 pm edt 

Route Six Takeover
Well it now starts. Iam told the state submitted a $40,000 snow plowing bill to Provincetown for this winter. and we had only a little snow. Provincetown is now responsible for traffic light maintance. (not cheap) drain pits maintance,  highway paving (not cheap) plowing sanding etc, of route six and intersections.
  Where will this money come from?????
6:24 pm edt 

Rumor in the Press

There's a rumor about a town official being charged with indecent assault. Does anyone know anything about it? Is it true?
6:18 pm edt 

Interesting Question on Bob Sanborne
Where is he on this Green Line and where was he in the proposing and dicussion. Is it that only person is left holding the Green line Bag? Maybe there were many others supporting this wrong marketing plan but only one is left with the blame. And, again, the Chair of the BOS was also involved and voted on this decision. Had she been a real Chair with real skills, she would have brought this to the public or to key organizations for discussions. But her Couture let this go forward and she herself was a champion of this misdirected marketing plan. Couture should be taking some of the blame and not only one gallery owner.

The BOS did not handle this idea and project well. And having green paint available does not a marketing plan make!
6:17 pm edt 

Re: Legal Rentals

It would be an EXCELLENT idea to publish the LEGAL RENTALS here in town. I'm almost positive that my neiabor is renting a couple of illegal spaces in his former one family house. He has also made his own curb cut with parking without a public hearing.
5:58 pm edt 

Personal Remarks & Attacks
Here is something to think about.
Is there a way for you (my fellow bloggers)  to disagree with someone, or disapprove of someone's antics (yes, MJ we mean you)

without attacking them personally?
or attacking their  business?

I don't like the green line, but i sure don't wish ill will
towards this lady, Ms Baltivik.

I don't like the way a certain Chairman of the Board treats
people at all. But i won't attack her business , nor make snide comments .

If you do, then you are part of the problem. you are part of the reason a lot of folks refuse to run for office or get involved in Provincetown.

and then. look what we get. Totally uncontested elections.
How embarassing for our town.

That's not how it works on any other town on Cape Cod.

So, folks. Remember that next time you have the urge to be fresh (mean).

Remember that there are some people out there who may be considering running for office, or volunteering on a board.
They may be reading this blog.

Do you want them to volunteer or not?

Slippery Clam
5:56 pm edt 

More Building

When is this town going to finally get fed up with being used as a cash cow for developers who know better than to try it in any other town on the Cape?  They people prey on Ptown for a reason.  Those charged with upholding the backbone of this community need to demand a line be drawn, literally, in the sand.  We don't need new developments, we don't need more condos.  We need to take care of what we have now and make it good again.  Fix the roads, designate affordable housing to units already built that sit empty 9 1/2 months out of the year instead of putting up more.  Someone, anyone, with a brain in town hall had better call those town boards that can't see the forest for the trees into check soon before this town becomes completely lost for good in the mayhem labelled as "affordable housing" and "progress".  Provincetown is too fragile to be treated this way and I for one, am sick of it.      
5:54 pm edt 

Any Update on the Boatworks?

Can They Rebuild to the Height Even Though They Tore the Building Down?

What was Zoning's response? What did this Board decide? Did anyone attend? Knock down a building, get the Building Commissioner to say it's "unsafe" after contractors work six months to de-stabilize the building, and then what? Oh, yes, you can now rebuild as you want!

Please let me know what Zoning decided? I know they should have changed all setbacks and denied the grandfathered height that came with the older existing building, but somehow I wouldn't be surprised is they looked at each other and said: "Oh, this is fine!"

But maybe they had the cahunas and the smarts to take the right action. Please let me know.
5:53 pm edt 

Re: Water
Funny that the first thing some do is try to assign an indentity to the poster and then either imply or outright state a personal hiddend agenda.

As someone else pointed out I am not MC or any other town official. Just a homeowner who keeps an eye on the long term issues in town and does his homework particularly on show stopping infrastructure questions like water.

POOLS: if you consult the town by-laws you will see that pools are allowed. however, they must be filled with water from out of town.

WATERING: I know for a FACT that many of the properties I see being watered with sprinklers during the water ban months are NOT on wells. Also interesting is that watering tends to take place in the early hours of the morning when town employees are unlikely to observe it. I know of at least one case where a contractor put in an elaborate irrigation sytem tied to town water and never told the customer this was illegal. They found out when the town threatened to dismantle said system and then installed a well.

I will dig in on the question of how many days we overpump.Regardless it is hard to assert that overpumping is caused by residential use which is the majority of new building. The town spends an inordinate amount of time and money, mostly using respected outside consultants, to calculate sewer usage/water usage/etc. When they allow additions to the system its only after pretty exhaustive review by several layers of committees, town depts, and in some case BOS, etc.

It does nothing to further debate to assert town officials are lying about water statistics. I take the information posted at face value as the DPW has nothing to gain by lying about these figures to the DEP. Yours is a sad sad world if you see everything as a consipiracy.
5:51 pm edt 

Chatham Voted NO on Added Local Taxes!

No go with the Green!!!!!
Paint it paint it paint it black..
12:16 pm edt 

Water Water Everywhere!

To Michelle's defense, (while I do know her, and not as a bosom buddy) no it was not her that posted on this blog about water or building.  Interestingly enough, some very good responses have been written from it.  Bringing debate to the table is a good thing. It appears people who have written do their homework and know what they are talking about.  This is good because people reading the blog who are not actively involved in governmental issues and concerns will know what is going on.

As for the other attacks on individuals such as Katherine Baltavick, Mary-Jo and others, we can do without those.  People should keep it clean without having to make snide comments.  If you don't like someones ideas or presentations you can express your opinions without nastily attacking them. Constructive criticism it one thing, nastiness is another.

I try to respect others opinions no matter who they are or what they are or what they do but not when they are attacking individuals just because they feel they need to show their ignorance towards others.  What that shows me is their insecurities within themselves.

I read the mission statement of this blog and I don't see where it says it was intended to make derogatory remarks or verbally attack individuals.

Let's all start working for the good of Provincetown. Take a good look at what is happening around the rest of the world.  How fortunate are we to be living in such a wonderful place!
12:15 pm edt 

Water Water

Check out the lengthy post about water.

notice it cites "yearly water use"..

whats missing is the daily water use, from May to the Nov.

if you keep reading , the blogger writes:

"According to DPW folks we do over pump our wells at the high points in the summer time. However we also just inked an agreement finally for a backup well field with Truro. "

Funny how this sounds insignificant. but its not. How many days of the year do we pump more than 850,000 gallons per day?
Tell the truth. How does a back up well change that? it doesn't.

Slippery Clam
12:14 pm edt 

Green Line BACK to BLACK!

Heard the BOS is sending the GREEN LINE BACK TO BLACK.   Wonder how much this all cost the town.  First one NOT SO STRAIGHT green line.  Then it was painted BLACK and another green line painted.  Then now it is going to be painted BLACK.   Hmmmmm, and Katherines gallery is going to suffer because she did this without considering the entire town.  Shame on you Katherine.   We should make you pay the town workers for all the trouble you have caused.  
And think of the energy that the BOS could have spent on real issues.   Where was Bob Sanborne on all this?  Hiding in his office at his guest house?  
12:13 pm edt 

Private Rentals

Is there a place on the towns web site that lists all apartments, studios, efficiencies that have a certificate by the town that states they have been inspected and safe to rent?   I have a friend that wanted to rent something down near the coast guard station.   Dont know if it is legal?  How do I tell?   I do not really want to call the town and find out, but the lady that owns it says it is legal?    I am sure you all will tell me to have her show me the inspection certificate, but is that the only way to tell, or does the town LIST ALL rooms that have been inspected on a site?  (Like you can see the minutes of all the licenses on the licensing boards web site)
12:03 pm edt 

Development and Water
To Building Moratorium
Correct.  No other Cape town faces this need to "economize" it water supply year after year while at the same time handing out new building permit after permit.  Permits put in the queue.  Right, how many of these were there last year?  Why control one and only "control" the other on paper?  Senseless as usual.  

To  Water Usage:

Your figures from the town website regurgitate "numbers" first chewed by town officials who, and I think this is pretty safe to say, may have hidden agendas.   Strict reg. after reg., study after study, numbers after numbers, ABSOLUTELY no swimming pools being filled, etc., etc.  Are you going to tell the boys at the Boathouse they'll be having Tea Party around an empty cement hole this summer because, ABSOLUTELY, no pools?  Do you really think half of this stuff is ever even done?  If so, where is the data?  Not the end report, the data?  The Water Report for 2009 is not even available for review and it's almost June.  Haven't they figured their figures right yet?
You admit a possible 25% margin of error and then proclaim an actual water surplus.  Again, looks good on paper.  I for one, question, substantially less water usage due to "green" toilets by the town last year than in 1996, and you should too.    

If future water concerns aren't enough of a reason for a building moratorium, how about the fact that population is declining, the HS is closing, town has no money to support present infrastructure costs let alone new construction costs, i.e., (roads) etc., environmental damage from clear cutting and new septic systems that are not required to town hook up, police escorts for prefab housing, new street signs that get knocked over by oversized construction vehibles, etc., etc.   Come on.  Get serious.  Enough is enough or the question remains.  Whats in it for you?
12:01 pm edt 

Town Water

FACT: Most town people who water lawns and wash cars have a well. This is a legal practice. Well water in Provincetown is not potable (drinkable) water.
11:57 am edt 

Monday, May 10, 2010

Green Line

If we won't let her have the green line, may I suggest painting her hair green and running up and down the street screaming "follow the self-serving gallery owner! follow me!" The people have spoken about the green line.
10:17 pm edt 

I Was Driving Into Town Tonight and Realized These Dunes Are Not Dunes

They are simply dirt piles. As the beach grass grows, it is grown on piles of dirt curving upwards to the sky. But don't think of these majestic sweeps as dunes. No, not at all. They are illustrative dirt hills, dirt sweeps and a delight for Conservation.

We live and are bounded by dirt. No problem what happens to them. Dirt is dirt.

Dunes? Well, they are elsewhere.

Thanks Conservation Commission for clarifying a dune and dirt. You are exceptional biologists and scientists. E.O. Wilson is now looking to use our dirt piles for his further studies of ants. Ants love dirt. Dunes? Well, that's another story.
10:16 pm edt 

Re: Water, Water Everywhere
Sounds like the sharp tongued Michelle speaking up about all the wonderful thing the town is doing to protect our fragile ecosystem... thanks for the information MC

Water Rat
10:12 pm edt 

Town Web Site
Kudos to the Town of Provincetown on its new web site. WOW, what a difference. The only negative is not in design but in the continuing tardy minutes from many important town boards like Water/Sewer, Health and others. HDC has really improved though with minutes very current.
10:11 pm edt 

Sears Kit Houses
While I can sympathize with your point of view the historic district doesn't just protect floaters or their peers. It also protects structures that are of their time and place which a Sears kit house surely is. We've somewhat arbitrarily drawn as to age of protected structures but so be it. Try this; what if in 1890 people had said "who could possibly want to protect those old places hauled over from the Point"?

In 100 years a kit house may be every bit as interesting to people walking through town as a floater is today.
10:10 pm edt 

Voter Sentiment

Less than 500 voted recently and less than 200 were at the last town meeting. It s misleading to state that less than 20 percent represent how the 'majority' feels.  Quite the opposite as the majority feel disenfranchised by town government and don t even bother showing up at town meeting or voting.
10:06 pm edt 

Water Usage
I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, pun intended, but here are the water facts:

Daily Average Water Use:
1996: 1,144,686 gallons
2007: 658,271
2009: 722,740 gallons

Source: town web site/water department/water usage report

So, on an average daily basis our town is using only 63% of the water that was used in 1996. This is up slightly from the lowest year which was 2007.

Our DEP permit is for 850,000 gallons a day.

According to DPW folks we do over pump our wells at the high points in the summer time. However we also just inked an agreement finally for a backup well field with Truro.

Additionally we've received federal money to improve the water system by going after leaks which some guesstimates put at up to 25% of total water usage disappearing in leaks in bad connections from houses to town pipes.

As users join the sewer system they also become very water use conscious and this will lead to a further drop in demand from these properties.

Looking forward, with a few very simple measures we can further decrease our water use, things like:
1) Proactive enforcement of summer watering ban (I see lawns all over town being illegally watered but I'm not calling my neighbors).
2) Requiring all guest houses and rental houses to display signage encouraging conservative water use by visitors
3) Requiring properties being inspected for rentals to have flow restricting shower heads and sink taps
4) Changing the building code to require Water Sense or equivalent standard in all new plumbing fixtures. (example I decreased water use 60% by replacing three old toilets with updated ones).
5) Proactive near real time notification by email of rental, hotel, guest houses, restaurants when water pumping is hitting the red zone so they can take measures to trim back water use.

Based on the data up top it is almost impossible to argue that new building is stressing our water system/supply. What is stressing it is peak visitor influx and that comes down to hotels, guest houses, rental properties. People who buy and don't rent out have negligible impact on the water supply and are far outweighed by the decreased water use as the year round population departs or passes on.

This is not to say building should be allowed anytime or anywhere but it is to say that to base your argument on the claim we are running out of water is false.

Fact based rebuttals welcome.

- not a town employee, etc.
10:03 pm edt 

Building Moratorium
I remember when there was a building moratorium! Now it is overbuild and don't look back. Cram the folks into as many units as possible and make the parking spaces as small as possible. There is a water shortage: where else are people banned from washing cars and watering gardens every single summer for decades?
9:59 pm edt 

Growth Management Bylaw

Actually, the folks that are concerned about our water supply are asking good questions.
unfortunately, the selectmen saw fit to add to the Growth Management Bylaw gallons last year....significantly. why? because they are dying to get more properties onto the sewer, which thanks to the economy, is under utilized. its a great carrot...."Hook up to the sewer and expand your business".

it was an odd thing to do, right before they got into the big fight with truro.

currently, we have enough water in the winter. but from May to Sept , we pump more than we are legally allowed to.

and a fact.

all that water we just bought from truro is not to get us MORE water, its to allow for a back up, or redundant source.

kind of like hauling a truck behind your car everywhere you go just in case your car fails.

very expensive.  questionable approach financially.

Slippery Clam
9:07 am edt 

Sunday, May 9, 2010

Water Water Everywhere

To the blogger who insists the town stop any and all construction because of lack of water, you should familiarize yourself with the Growth Management By-Law (it can be found on the town website).  The by-law limits growth by gallons allocated to categories.  The yearly allocations are revisited yearly by the selectmen at a public hearing which apparently you fail to attend.

The town does not allow unlimited growth.  There are yearly limits which are based on factual water data.  Once the gallons for a specific year are determined and placed in each category, anyone can apply for a building permit where extra gallons are needed whether it be an additional bedroom or a new structure.  Once the gallons for that particular year are used up new permits are put in a queue for future development.

Also, gallons can be returned to the 'pool' when they are no longer needed such as removal of a bedroom in a structure or if a restaurant were to become a residence (note the old Flagship).

If you feel there are too many gallons being handed out, maybe you should attend the public hearing.  The hearings are always posted in the paper and if you call the Community Development office, they could even tell you the time of year they are voted on.
11:59 pm edt 

To: Prospective Home Owner

This blog contains the rants and raves of a small segment of our population. We have been having out own little Tea Party here. But when the people really speak at Town Meeting or at the polls, the voters do not endorse the viewpoints expressed here.    
10:53 pm edt 

When is a Dune Not a Dune?
When some dunes come in front of Conservation Commission. Seems some dunes are dirt piles and other dunes are dunes. How odd. So when is a sand dune, sand and when is a sand dune, dirt? You'd think that Conservation would want to preserve dunes and not turn some of our dunes into dirt. But some dunes are dunes and some dunes are dirt. Who is a dune exeprt? And who is a dirt expert?  
10:52 pm edt 

Historic Structures
What constitutes an historic structure?  We all know its a floater from the point, or a stick built house or a ground up constructed post and beam but, how can a Sears and Robuck Kit house (even though it's over fifty years of age)be considered historic.  What's historic about a house  built from a kit where all you have to do is put it together by matching the numbers. Several houses in the historic district are Sears homes.  I suppose fifty years from now the modular homes that have been trailered in(and there are a few) will be considered historic as well.
10:51 pm edt 

Ranch on Commercial Street
"Went by it today.  Has it gone downhill the last few years, yes.   The manager really doesn't care much about it, and the owner, who happens to own another guest house (which is up-kept very nicely) looks at the ranch as a cash cow and feels people only stay there for obvious reasons  (if you know the ranch clientele, then it is obvious they dont care about what the place looks like).    
The owner is also a chair on a town board.   Nothing for nothing, but he should be held to higher standard?"

Well, if that was the case, George Bryant served on boards on the cape and P-Town, and look at his property).   And if every person that was on a board had to be held to a higher standard, then nobody would be sitting on town boards.
Bottom line, it is his property and he can do anything he wants.   It is sad what it looks like.   What can anyone do?
10:49 pm edt 

Water Concerns

Water concerns are legitimate and serious.  Common sense dictates town officials must implement an immediate moratorium on all new construction.  Any other Massachusetts towns currently faced with the same overdevelopment and corresponding water shortage issues have taken this important step and rightfully so.  Yet Provincetown officials continue to stick their heads deeper and deeper in the sand and promote more and more new construction when it is obvious natural resources are insufficent to accomodate?  Why can't these people see what is going to happen to this town if they don't do something to stop it now?  There has to be an underlying reason these developers are allowed to dig their claws into this town and build multi-family complexes when there is absolutely no need and every reason to prohibit it.  Something is wrong here, very wrong at the town official/permitting level.  If there was ever a town that needed to stop overdevelopement Provincetown is it.  Yet no one!
 in town hall can see this?  Even someone looking in can see this 100%.
10:45 pm edt 

Building Development

To Build, Build, Build and when there is no more room, build more anyway, go up.  

This is the town's mantra.  What will be the water situation in 20 years?  Has anyone bothered to even think that far ahead.  There isn't enough now and building continues unbridled to line the pockets of the few.
10:42 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown
Don't let this blog scare you off. I've been a reader and occasional contributor since early on in this thing's existence. I too was terribly bummed out by the blistering hatred, ignorance, illiteracy and paranoia often displayed by a subset of contributors. However when I learned more about these folks I came to feel sorry for them. They've wrecked their lives, some are financial failures, some have drinking problems, some burn things down to get out from under debt, some use this to get at their fellow elected officials in a manner that wouldn't otherwise be acceptable, others destroyed their own jobs and blame the town for it. These folks previously were restricted to mumbling their age old gripes to others at a bar but now they have unrestricted access to a public anonymous forum and they use it. If you go back and scan several years of posts you'll see the same dead horses beaten time and time again by what are obviously the same folks. I find it amusing the check the p!
osting times and the really bitter stuff comes out after ten at night, I'd wager after a few cocktails.

Fortunately there is also a portion of the readership that bothers to learn the facts and rebut these bitter individuals. Others take the time to use their energy on town committees or public take a stand on an issue. These are the folks that get things done in this town. Others then anonymously tear them down.

If you look back over the past few years you'll see common themes amongst the malcontents:
- despise anyone who has a full time job with benefits, particularly town employees
- generally despise gay/lesbian folks being in any position of power (see Pier, Town Manager, and others)
- really despise people who have a brain and use it, again particularly town employees
- will simultaneously decry the decay of town facilities while screaming against any increase in revenue for the town
- irate at anyone who made money elsewhere and dares to come to town and buy a property here
- irate at anyone who dares take a vacation in winter time that exceeds a week, this apparently then disqualfies the person from ever being involved in the town

In general you'll also see some well deserved angst over:
- decline in full time population
- decline in affordable housing and explosion in proeprty prices over the past 15 years
- increasing cost of taxes and other public services now that the state insists we actually don't put crap into the bay, pick up our trash and since the town has decided to actually try to catch up on a long backlog of deferred maintenance.
- aging of the Cape in general and decline in families ability to survive on the Cape
- increasing isolation in non-peak months
- fewer and fewer places open over the winter as a result of all of the above

So, don't let this blog get you down, go out and meet real people that will be your friends and neighbors. You'll find many people worth knowing.

If you want to be concerned about concrete issues I'd be watching things like the unfunded $64 million the town faces for employee retirement benefits, decay of town streets, continued well above inflation increases in energy costs, health costs, etc. for town government. It is inevitable that our (compared to similar MA valued towns) low taxes will rise substantially over the foreseeable future. Also, the tiny portion of the population that shows up for town meeting and votes is worrisome. Though I've been very impressed with the decsions they've made it bothers me that such a tiny percentage of the population makes the major decisions due to lack of participation.

All that said, I'm happy I bought here and happy to spend a good portion of the year here. Join the fun, you'll be blogging away in no time at all!
10:40 pm edt 

Green Line

Re: Liz Carney's statement that some of the signers of her petition
have expressed their anger.

Let's call a spade a spade. Many of the signers of the petition have made
downright mean and insulting comments that are aimed at individuals, not the
green line. I hope they are proud of themselves. They are showing everyone what
they're really made of. I was surprised to hear such abusive, disrespctful
vitriol from neighbors. People I know.

It amounts to bullying. People get pretty brave with their words when they are
functioning as a mob.
9:58 pm edt 

Re: Posting Against Mary Jo Has the Scent of Low Couture

Mary Jo has done many good things for this town and has given of her time and
energy. Couture's remarks to MaryJo at the last Pier Copr meeting was itself
disrespectful and spiteful. Couture has brought little to her position as Chair
and she failed as leader to bring the BOS together as a solid, active team of
players. She is divisive and her actions and words towards MaryJo show Couture's
real inner core--not nice at all! Frog Pond Scum.
3:21 pm edt 

Ranch on Commercial Street

Has anyone else noticed what an eyesore the Ranch on commercial street
has become?  when are they going to put a lick of paint on it?
3:14 pm edt 

Build, Build, Build

Someone wrote this previous statement:
27-31 Bangs Street

Quote: "The pics posted here of Bangs Street do not look that bad. I wonder what
the new project at55 West Vine will look like. 7 multi family structures on the
1.2 acre lot of which 1/6 th is set aside for toads  opposite bayberry farm will
contain maybe 14 to 21 bedrooms sounds dense  but the density of two other
developments in the area,one accross from the proposed and the other being Cape
Tip not to mention the meadows, the Dunes, the condo's at Victors, Harbor Hill
and the condos at the tennis courts seem to have set the precedent for this to
be done. It's all OK with me as long as our water supply is ample to handle all
the units without compromising the usage of the town".
End Quote.

Can the town's water supply handle future development as stated above?  Did we
not just have to pay thousands of dollars to Truro to purchase water.  So, the
philosophy is as long as we have the water we can build, build, build.  Should
we be looking to the future and conserve for a rainy day? How much more
undeveloped land that can still be developed is left and what areas are they in? 
Can they be further subdivided?  We still have yet to see the 90 Shank Painter
Road Project and Mr. Malone will be looking to further develop Nelson's.  This
constitutes more water usage or have these figures already been factored in.

Just because we purchased/leased land from Truro for water does it mean we can
continue to develop every inch of land remaining?  I try to look to the future. 
We still have very young children who, hopefully will continue to live in
Provincetown) as have we and I would not want them to end up with a water
shortage years from now.
3:10 pm edt 

Green Line

As a business owner, I sent people down to the gallery district yesterday. 
Guess what?  One comment said They thought commercial street was a 2 way street
now.   Another comment was cars were able to park on one side of the line.   And
yet another comment was that the new bike path seemed awful wide.   No one made
a comment about "walking the line".   
I still question the other galleries NOT in the East End.  Doesn't seem fair.  
And not only are there "other" businesses in the East end that the line isn't
promoting, that isn't fair either.  
This line was NOT well thought out.  Bad idea.  
I do hope people go to the BOS Monday night and speak out on this.   
3:06 pm edt 

The Green Line 3:03 pm edt 

On the etition to Remove the Green Line

A previous post asks why the other East End galleries have been so quiet on the
issue of the green line.  I can assure you that many East End residents, artists
and gallery owners are quite concerned.  Long standing leaders in the
Provincetown arts community are signing the petition.  I hope that it is well
written and does not level harsh criticisms against any individuals.  My
intention is merely to ask that the line be removed until a true community wide
discussion can be held regarding the the use of public space for arts marketing
purposes.  Alterations of public space such as our streets beg us to devote
great time and care to public process.  It's not simple, but most good things
aren't quick solutions.  Great marketing and promotion of the arts that is
reflective of all of us - not dividing east from west or leaving some feeling
excluded - is not only possible, but I am sure we could become the envy of many
arts communities with our collective creativity.  Site Speci!
fic installations, hand painted banners by local artists, flags at each
gallery.  These are just my suggestions.  Imagine if we had 268 (the number of
people who have signed the petition thus far) people offering their ideas.  It
wouldn't happen over night, but I can guarantee the product would be rich and
sophisticated and something to get behind. 

Last week I asked to be included in the small committee that was formed to work
on the "re-branding" of Provincetown as an arts destination."   This is a
committee of 3 galleries with help from Bob Sanborn of the Visitor Services
Bureau.  I was told by a member of the committee that they "doubt I would have
any interest in business meetings on slogans, decals, postcards and
advertising."  It was said that "If you really want to get involved, there are
all the boards who need volunteers and members to sit on town boards." This is
unfortunate as I have worked on many community arts projects and would very much
like to be involved on their committee and I believe I could provide some
assistance.  From my experience as a member of the Boston Cultural Council in
the Office of Arts and Tourism and my role on the Boston Redevelopment
Authority's arts review board, as well as being the creator of my own public art
pieces I feel I have something to contribute.  Also, I am summer resi!
dent for 37 years and a year round resident for the past two. 

What I have learned over the years is that public process protects communities
from being torn apart when a public project is ill received as is the case of
the green line.  Since roads were first created we have come to depend upon the
predictability of markings on our streets.  Re-paving is one thing, but it is
not a good idea to alter the visual integrity of a street. In fact the Federal
Highway Administration has very serious guide lines about what you can put on a
paved surface.  We need to protect our public streets from being turned into
billboards for commercial ventures.  Public streets are not unlike meadows and
forests which need to be protected. They are sacred and a critical part of our
town's visual landscape.  There's much more I could say on the matter of safety,
aesthetics and historic preservation, but I have gone on too long as it is. 
I'll reserve some for Monday night's meeting.

Lastly, some of the people who have signed thus far  have expressed their anger
in the petition but I hope people will see the bigger picture.  That we are 268
people that care immensely about the visual integrity of Provincetown. I hope
you will take a moment to read my petition and I sincerely thank all of you for
doing so whether you sign or not. 


Liz Carney, artist and resident of the East End
3:02 pm edt 

Re: Mary-Jo Avellar

Mary-Jo Avellars term of service has ended. Thank you for your service. Lets
bring in the mainsail and move on.

Enough about harping about the Provincetown Public Pier Corporation (Pier
Corp."), where her husband worked and is no longer employed.

Enough about her husbands cousin (Thomas Steele), who filed a lawsuit against
the town. Town records reflect this lawsuit was settled last year when he was
promoted to the position of Sergeant of the Police Department, days after he
reported a missing firearm.

Enough about her lack of moral ethics, including the grandstanding she did at
the special meeting of the Board of Selectmen, where Ms. Avellar alleged
malfeasance about her husbands former employer. Her diatribe was in violation of
Massachusetts General Law, which prohibits public officials from participating
in the discussion of any issue where there may be a conflict of interest.

Ms. Avallars course of conduct is consistent with her past. Town records reflect
she applied for an administrative position with the town in 2005 in an effort to
secure medical insurance for herself and her spouse. The position was ultimately
appointed to current Assistant Town Manager David Gardner.

One of the allegations Ms. Avellar made against the Pier Corp. was the length of
time it has taken them to respond to recommendations made 20 months ago by the
Towns Finance Committee.

Members of the Pier Corp. confirmed many of the recommendations have been
implemented, an admirable accomplishment given the length of time the town has
taken to address other issues in a timely fashion under Ms. Avellars watch,
including the following:

Repaving of Commercial Street:  Not yet done.

Firehouse Restoration: The project is not yet completed, although this valuable
town asset has remained in disrepair for over a decade.

Town Hall Restoration: This project is not yet completed, although this historic
landmark is one of the towns most precious assets; the renovation project has
taken over 24 months.

Financial Resurrection: This project is also not yet completed, although it has
been underway for over four years, reflecting that things take time.

Mary-Jo Avellar has left the room. Finally, so has the hot air.
2:59 pm edt 


What is it with this town that precedents become the law of the land?  Can't a
precedent be wrong?  Obviously, it can.
2:57 pm edt 


Yes this is reflective of what Provincetown is like and yes you should
make due consideratiosn before making a financial investment - there are times
when i regret mine and wonder if it was a wide decision - Provincetown has a lot
to offer but sadly a lot to take away as well - the stewards of the town will
rarely protect what you worked hard to earn  
2:53 pm edt 

Saturday, May 8, 2010

27-31 Bangs Street Property Abutter

What does the abutter's property look like today with all the rain?

It will be interesting to see the affects of erosion on the property.

I hope pictures are taken.
11:58 am edt 

27-31 Bangs Street

The pics posted here of Bangs Street do not look that bad. I wonder what the new project at55 West Vine will look like. 7 multi family structures on the 1.2 acre lot of which 1/6 th is set aside for toads  opposite bayberry farm will contain maybe 14 to 21 bedrooms sounds dense  but the density of two other developments in the area,one accross from the proposed and the other being Cape Tip not to mention the meadows, the Dunes, the condo's at Victors, Harbor Hill and the condos at the tennis courts seem to have set the precedent for this to be done. It's all OK with me as long as our water supply is ample to handle all the units without compromising the usage of the town.
11:41 am edt 

Green Line

Regarding the green line: I agree with the person who commented on the unfortunate situation we have now with local artists publicly trashing the good intentions and taste of other local artists.

The polite and tasteful thing to do is just say "No, thank you."
11:39 am edt 

Re: Provincetown
To answer your question - Provincetown is the most wonderful place in the world. Yes, you see alot of back and forth on this blog with issues and like any community we fight it out.  Don't let anything deter you from buying a place here - it will be the best money you ever spent and the most wonderful community to live in.  Buy the place the minute you fall in love with it.
Good luck
11:38 am edt 

Green Line

Re: According to Ms. Baltivik's statement yesterday on WOMR there are only 3 galleries out of over 70 that formed this committee that had asked the BOS for their permission to do the green line concept. Unbelievable that all the rest of us-the arts community including galleries and artists- have this in our face....

Without expressing an opinion on the 'green line' I give kudos to the three galleries for trying to do something to generate business.  I've tried organzing gallery owners as a group to get some promotions going on in town and most are unwilling to do anything except complain how bad business is.
11:37 am edt 

Re: Provincetown
Are you serious? Provincetown is no different than any other community in the US except for the fact that we have a much larger percentage of gay people living here. Peoples concerns are no different here.
11:36 am edt 

Green Line

I drove down the GREEN LINE and WALKED the GREEN LINE.   Looks stupid.  Looks ugly.  And with the first green line painted over, you now have a black line, green line, broken street from the sewer, WHAT COULD GET WORSE?    Katherins Baltiviks gallery I hope you are ashamed of what you have done.   What about all the art galleries in the center of town and the West end of town?   Why were they not considered?  And how about the restaurants that are not on the commercial street?  How are people suppose to find them?  And all the other business in town that are not right in the middle of town?   Why not a line to al the guest houses?   As a business owner that sends 20  120 people a day to the East end gallery district, you just lost all those people, as I plan on telling people that everything ends at Pearl street.  I have talked to other business owners around me, and they all agree, they will not be sending business your way either.  Ms Baltivik, you are very self serving an!
d you should be ashamed of what you have done.    I just hope you have not hurt the other galleries near you.   I wonder why they are all being so quiet?  
11:35 am edt 

Is This What Provincetown is Really Like?
Before we make a financial investment Is this what Provincetown is really like?  

Don't be disheartened and don't let a few bad eggs sway your decision.   The one underlying thing about Provincetown is that everybody is passionate, in part because everybody cares about the town, just from different perspectives.  Unfortunately, what may be jumping out at you on this blog is a few (perhaps 20) bloggers that focus on one issue over and over and over again, and tend to focus on it from a critical or negative perspective.   I would not base my decision to move here on this blog, because this is the anonymous minority that is not always logical, and tends to be very negative.   Rather, I would talk to people in the streets to get a true perspective.   Most people came here because of their love for the town.   At the end of the day, the blog is simply noise.  
11:33 am edt 

To: Provincetown
So you've heard of the "Bangs St." project.  According to town legal counsel in a public article, all units are completely legal. Don't forget your bathing suits.  In a year or so you may even have use of a nice inground pool downhill once drainage from septic gets flowing.  
11:32 am edt 

Green Line

I don't mind the Green Line although I would have preferred it be the color of town hall which was suggested in an earlier comment.

However, I think that if we( the merchants, galleries, residents etc) wanted more business and tourists,we could do several things,

1) Close Commercial Street to vehicular traffic for several hours on Saturday and Sunday during the high season( Obviously abutters and deliveries would have access).  If that happened, folks wouldn't need a green line. People could meander as they pleased without fear of being hit by a car or a wrong way bike. If Times Square can do it-so can Provincetown. Just try it as an experiment one Saturday or Sunday and only for several hours eg 1p-3p and see if people like it.

2)repave Commercial Street  so you don't have to look down when you walk for fear of stepping in a pot hole. When you don't have to look down , you can look around and see some of the interesting places and people around you.

Any other constructive suggestions besides eliminating the Green Line( and trashing its creators) would be a welcome sight here.
8:24 am edt 

Green Line
When referring to art I believe the saying is "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". What one perceives as art another might think it is not.  Let us not criticize those for thinking they were doing something positive for the ARTS! Everyone is entitled to their opinion and constructive criticism is not a bad thing but let's not get nasty about it.  We all have to live in the same community.
8:22 am edt 

Green Line

Okay so you're saying because people don't live in Provincetown that their opinion about this disgusting green line doesn't matter? I smell ignorance. Who the hell do you think funds this place? People from out of town.
8:21 am edt 

Mary Jo

Congratulations to the blogger calling out Mary Jo and her antics, she is self serving and always will be. She and Duane are made for each other. She has been a "leader" and I use that term loosely for our community and looked where her leadership has led us. She only decided not to run again so she can get her real estate commission from the land that "we" the taxpayers just bought for open space.

Just wait and see Grassy and his girlfriend who live in TRURO not Provincetown are one year bench warmers. Mary Jo will be back again and for all the wrong reasons! She should move to Canada with her step child and live off some other community for a change. She failed at the RED INN, she failed at the Advocate and she has been the worst selectperson this town has ever had. John Snow is probably rolling over in his grave, she is a sham, always was and always will be!!!
8:20 am edt 


My partner and I have been looking at purchasing property in Provincetown for quite some time now.  There is one particular piece of property that we absolutely fell in love with but when we went to inquire about it we were told someone had made an offer and the owners had accepted. We are still looking because we love the area.

My partner and I were in a restaurant having dinner and we couldn't help but to overhear the adjacent table talking about the town blog so we inquired as to what that was.  They told us how to access the blog so, when we went home we turned on our computer and did just that.  We read the blog.

It appears in reading the blog, there are people who seem to be disappointed with what is going on in their neighborhoods and in the town.  There seems to be a lot about this Green Line and Bangs Street and personal attacks on individuals. Are these same groups interested in the town as a whole or only concerned about certain areas of town.

My partner and I want to settle in a community where people in the community care about each other and the community as a whole. Before we make a financial investment Is this what Provincetown is really like?  
8:18 am edt 

Setting the Bar!

Have you ever served on a board?  I did for several years and did it willingly to serve and give something to the community in which I live. While I served voluntarily, I received at times from my friends and associates nothing but criticism and verbal abuse.  My business suffered; I could only associate that with the fact I was on a board making what I thought was the best decisions I could make for the betterment of the town in which I resided.  I didn't need the condescending attitudes I received from certain people so I opted not to continue to serve.  

Anyone that serves on a board deserves better than being chastised and criticised.  If the individuals out there can find the time to criticize and demoralize those that serve on boards think they can do better then I suggest they apply to get on a board. Let's see what difference they can make.
8:16 am edt 

Flora and Fauna
Yesterday's letter in the Banner from Mr. Minsky stressed the Conservation Commission's dedication to preserving flora and fauna.  Where was this dedication when a dune was being torn and all flora and fauna on site destroyed during the first stages of the ongoing project pictured on this blog?  Another article in the banner states an 80' buffer zone of a wetland with no buildings allowed within this area.  Why did the Commission turn it's collective head and ignore this by-law for this project?  
8:15 am edt 

Volunteer Boards

No one should be embarrassed or yelled at in public.  Volunteer boards should be treated with respect and guided into doing their jobs correctly.  No board should be brought before the BOS just to be yelled at.

FYI.  The wave attenuation was removed form the original plans for the pier by the BOS because they feared a lawsuit from the waterfront home owners in the east end.  Even though they removed the attenuation, they failed to redesign the floating docks to accommodate the wave destruction.  The PPPC inherited this flawed design.  And MaryJo was on the BOS at the time and she knows full well what happened.
8:13 am edt 

Friday, May 7, 2010

Setting the Bar

We all get it, really we do. You don't like Mary Jo. It's important to set the bar low for our 'volunteers' as the other four selectmen have done consistently. Don't embarass the volunteers, they'll feel bad. Let's just pay for the new wave attenuator and third set flocking docks which will cost in excess of $1,000,000 and not fault them as they are volunteers.
3:02 pm edt 

Re: Green Line
I stopped in to Katherine Baltivik's gallery to tell her that I did not appreciate the green line and thought that it was very self serving.  Baltivik instructed me to not look at it if I don't like it.  In return I will tell visitors and tourists to avoid the Charles - Baltivik Gallery and Sculpture Garden.  So much for her great marketing scheme.
3:00 pm edt 

Green Line

There are 226 signatures on the anti green line petition. Of those I counted 94 by non Provincetown residents or part time residents. I noticed several signatures by people who listed Ptown as their town of residence but I personally know do not live here. There were also three celebrity signatures including the deceased stars Marilyn Monroe and Elvis Presley.

Just sayin'...
2:59 pm edt 

Re: Mary Jo's Last Days on BOS

To the author of "Mary Jo's Last Day on BOS" I say to you: BRAVO!! Well done! I laughed until my side hurt because I have seen her in action and you couldn't have done a better job describing her fits!!! Awesome!
12:31 pm edt 

Green Line

The Green Line concept wasn't lost on me. However, if you are going to ATTRACT people to the galleries, wouldn't something ARTISTIC be smarter??? What about signs shaped like artist paint brushes, each painted a different color and positioned along the side of the road all the way down Commercial St? They could even be placed on some of the parking meter and sign poles to help eliminate that blight! Now that would add character and still convey the same message without being so artificially TACKY!!!

12:29 pm edt 

Mary Jo's Last Day on the BOS

I just sat through the online version of the Board of Selectmen's meeting with the Pier Corp. Or should I say Mary Jo's tirade against the Pier Corp volunteers? What a show! How terribly sad that this woman has been allowed to behave like a spoiled child that didn't get her way. I was half expecting to see her fling herself to the floor in a convulsing fit of anger! Several times her pallor took on a purplish cast - was that because she was holding her breath until she turned blue? Perhaps had she contained herself long enough to actually think before she shrieked, things might have gone better?

As appalling as it all was, I must say that I was truly impressed at the character displayed by the Pier Corp. members for not walking out long before two of them did. Mary Jo's "slide show" er,  I mean "SIDE SHOW" was beyond belief. Picture if you will, photos of a boat that has just been lifted from the water by a crane after it capsized. Ms. Avellar was pointing out scratches and scuffs on the boat's hull and accusing a volunteer board of misusing town property! What a spectacle which could have been worthy of National Enquirer!

Mary Jo, may I remind you that it has been YOU that has been a steward of ALL town property off and on for over 30 years! Let's take a look at YOUR record of mismanagement! Look at the condition of not just Town Hall, but ALL TOWN BUILDINGS! Most of our precious town property has fallen into such a sad state of disrepair that the town will undoubtedly have to fork over millions more to clean up the mess made by our "Miss Holier Than Thou" - Mary Jo Avellar. Mr. Adams of Pier Corp. made a comment that was right on when he asked if we would also be seeing pictures of Town Police and DPW vehicles. Ms. Avellar hogged the spot light for the entire meeting rudely yelling over any one that dared to speak up, including her own board chair!

I have never been more embarrassed for a public servant than I was after watching Mary Jo disintegrate before my eyes. Her performance would have been worthy of an award had it not been so nasty and callous. Do they still give out Golden Plungers? If so, I can think of a truly deserving FORMER Public Servant!

Thank God her rein of lunacy has come to an end. I just hope that we have all learned our lesson in the event she decides to run again! God help us all!
12:20 pm edt 

Green Line

I have no problem with gallery owners or any other businesses promoting their businesses in town.  However, I find it disturbing that three gallery owners were given permission from the BOS to take over a public way without knowing exactly what the finished product would entail.  We have seen "Phase 1" and we realize that it has created a traffic hazard and is an unsightly mark upon the town.  I resent being told that I am unthinking because I disagree with a pedestrian marketing plan that directly and negatively impacts my neighborhood.  If  Katherine Baltivik wants to garner public support for business advertising on public ways, she needs to be less insulting to those who have an opposing view!  

Secondly, this committee claims that it wants to rebrand Provincetown as an arts destination.  Wouldn't that require a ton marketing outside of Provincetown?  And isn't this type of marketing expensive?  Ms. Baltivak said that the committee hasn't yet lined up the funding to pay for the completion of the murals and the West End line.  If their goal is to benefit the town by bringing more people to town because of art, that would require a substantial sum of money for advertising outside of Provincetown.  She has never discussed how she will advertise this outside of Ptown.  I find it hard to believe that the art world will be abuzz over a green line down Commercial Street that advertises art galleries.  I don't imagine flocks of art collector coming because of our green line.  I know that some people are comparing the success of the Pilgrim Bark Park and their recent recognition in Dog Fancy Magazine - but these really are two different ventures. The dog park was created to !
provide a pet-friendly town with a beautiful open space for dogs to run and play - it was not trying to increase the sales of a select few private businesses.

Again, I believe that this is a bad idea and it's unfair to the residents of the town.  Attend the BOS meeting to let your voice be heard.  If you can't attend, please send a letter to the BOS and sign the on-line petition.  Let the BOS know that there are many people who are unhappy with this scheme and put a stop to it - it's unsightly and dangerous!  

Paul Soares
12:14 pm edt 

Gfreen Line

I must admit I am not a fan of the green line, though I do think the concept of promoting our arts community is a good one.

I went to the online petition with the intention of signing. However, after reading some of the hateful, hurtful, unnecessary comments left by some of the signers, I will not be adding my name to this list.

Most upsetting are the rude comments from local artists such as part time resident John Dowd who calls the line "cheap and obvious" and likens the campaign to a "carnival sideshow," or Polly Burnell who uses the words "vulgar" and "tasteless." Other local artists have chosen to post rude comments and sign their names as well. They should be ashamed of themselves.

Shouldn't the artists in town work together to promote our arts community? This sort of elitist, look-down-your-nose snobbery isn't what Provincetown is about.

Everyone should feel free to voice their opinion and vote whatever way they chose on issues that affect the community, but I don't think one artist calling another's ideas tasteless or tacky is conducive to promoting Provincetown as an arts COMMUNITY.
12:11 pm edt 

Problems With Town Hall

To the builder with good Town Hall experiences -

Good for you - As an abutter I could not even get a call back.
11:26 am edt 

Problems in Town Hall
I am a builder and I can say I have had good experiences in Town Hall when inquiring about what I need when applying for a building permit. A lot of the construction work I do usually requires some type of historic review and sometimes zoning relief.  The Permit Coordinator has always been very helpful in explaining the process to me.  As a matter of fact, she repeats to me at least three times over our conversation to make sure I have all the elevations and make sure they are dimensioned. We had a good laugh because she said she should tape record the conversation so all she would have to do is press the button on the tape recorder becasue she says that same phrase at least 20 times a day.

She explained to me the plans approved by zoning and historic are matched up with the plans submitted with the building permit to make sure nothing had changed from one board to another.  If I have building code questions she refers me to the building commissioner who has always been very helpful when asking code questions.
11:21 am edt 

Green Line

According to Ms. Baltivik's statement yesterday on WOMR there are only 3 galleries out of over 70 that formed this committee that had asked the BOS for their permission to do the green line concept. Unbelievable that all the rest of us-the arts community including galleries and artists- have this in our face. Did the BOS ever ask how many galleries are on the committee. Answer to that is -NO they didn't. It looks like it was pretty much a done deal before February 22 BOS meeting where is was presented by Ms. Baltivik and the other two on the committee who by the way where not present. Rumor has it they were vacationing in Florida.

The Committee:  Katherine Baltivik-owner
                              432 Commercial

                             Gallery Voyeur
                             Johniene Papandress-owner
                             444 Commercial

                             Schoolhouse Gallery
                             Michael Carol
                             494 Commercial 
9:22 am edt 

Green Line

What about changing the neon green to the historic green color which in on our beautiful town hall? any thoughts? 
8:43 am edt 

Thursday, May 6, 2010

Katherine Baltivik

I have never seen a person as arrogant, condescending or stubborn as
Katherine Baltivik.

She goes on the radio to defend her marketing plan and not once during the
interview does she (or her friend the host) mention the words 'green' or 'line.'

If she would just stop throwing around fancy words and phrases like "rebranding"
and "invisible barriers" and LISTEN to the people who are opposed to the line,
she might actually hear and understand that NOBODY IS AGAINST PROMOTING THE ARTS

It's that ugly neon green line people don't like. If she would just admit she
made a mistake with the color choice and have the line re-painted a less
offensive shade of green, my guess is this whole controversy would go away.

Contrary to her belief that this marketing plan will help her business, she is
doing some serious damage to her reputation. Pissing off the entire community is
no way to endear yourself to your neighbors and certainly no way to run a
successful business. In a small town like this word of mouth means everything.
If you anger the locals, rest assured they will spread the word to the tourists.

Good luck selling your artwork.
7:38 pm edt 

Problems in Town Hall

To a large extent, we depend on the decency and intelligence of our boards and

In order to do their job, they need to understand the basics: Robert's rules,
the state & town regulations and the scope of their authority.
Expecting town staff, especially the building commissioner, to follow the rules
correctly and consistently will just disappoint you.
i have no memory of this town having a great building commissioner  Ever. Do

Many years ago, the joke was that a developer could show a different plan to
each board and get away with it. In response, the boards instituted a new system
of plan numbering and made sure to reference those numbers in the motion of
approval. That way, everyone knew which plan the board was looking at when the
vote was taken.
Has that changed?

Lately, we hear that boards don't know how to count votes. They think a person
can be counted as abstaining when the person is not even in the room; i read in
the paper that they think a 2-1-2 vote is a fail, when it really is an approval.

At town meeting this year, Mrs. Minsky asked the chairman of our licensing board
three times, why we were voting on the general by-law about entertainment and
not discussing alcohol. He couldn't explain it. He kept talking about a yellow
room. Finally, the audience had to answer her question.

This is sad. i lay a good portion of the blame at the feet of the current
chairman of the selectmen, who has been in town hall over 15 years and has not
set a good example. Agendas are not clear. Rules are not followed and
vindictiveness seems to be the perfume of the day.

We can complain  all we want but expecting an outside authority to come in and
clean this up is not the answer.

We get the government we deserve. And, we have.

When folks get sick enough of this, perhaps they will volunteer or run for
office. We need some new faces in town hall.

Slippery Clam
7:34 pm edt 

Growing Concern

There is an atmosphere about  town that corruption has run amok
and that it is based in town hall and that it is the centered in the
Community Development Department.

This belief is engendered by the ever increasing actions of the Building Commissioner, which
run counter to not only the town by-laws but in actual support of developers, with the tacit approval of town management.

Something is deeply wrong in Provincetown and only outside authorities will be able to
make the corrections that are so sorely needed.
3:38 pm edt 

Developers vs. Abutters

You are so right.  There is recourse however, as was shown in Truro.  It just has to come in the form of a court order.
2:34 pm edt 

Developers vs Abutters

You can go to all the meetings you want but the developers know all the loopholes.  So, even though you will get a presentation showing that a project will look a certain way, the developer will come along after they get approval and change the plans without telling abutters.  The abutter only learns that significant changes have been made once the buildings are constructed.  Changes are made to plans without any further notification to abutters.  Once the buildings are up there is no recourse.
12:50 pm edt 

"Green Line"
Whoever is responsible for the idea of this should be boycotted for their incredible lack of understanding of this community. Its the type of steamroller and self-serving attitude the town really doesn't need right now. Collectively by petition and the board of selectman meeting on May 10, 6pm it will be changed.
12:49 pm edt 

Re: Green Line

In Wicked Local Today:  "These are people who arent really thinking, said Katherine Baltivik, chair of the East End gallery owners committee that developed the Walk the Line concept and co-owner of Charles-Baltivik Gallery, 432 Commercial St. Its unfortunate they have chosen to focus on just that one aspect. [The green line] is something that intelligent people thought would rebrand Provincetown as an arts destination."

Ms. Baltivik I beg to differ.  It is the "Walk the Line" committee who are not thinking.  This ill-conceived, poorly implemented plan is unsightly and dangerous to residents of Ptown.  There is nothing incredibly "intelligent" about painting a line down the street, and adding a bunch of commercial advertising.  These "intelligent people" who would like to re-brand Provincetown as an arts destination didn't really come up with an intelligent idea.  You sound like a snooty art gallery owner claiming that "people don't get art."  Shame on you for being so condescending!

An Intelligent Person with an Intelligent Opinion    
10:22 am edt 

Sign the Petition Against the Green Line
Its up to over 100 signaturess now.
Make sure you and your friends are on it too.

Let's put this to goofy idea to bed.
Until our roads are reconstructed and repaired,
attempting to use them visually , is not an option.

its the last place we should have people looking.

Sign the Petition. Only 4 days left to the next meeting.

"It aint easy being Green"
9:51 am edt 

Katherine's Baltivik Should Walk Green Line Right Out of Town!

This woman has crammed this lame "rebranding" on this town. From speaking with artists in town as well as gallery owners -- most were not even aware it was happening. However do be aware that the ugly green line is ONLY the beginning of her tacky misguided plan. Next will be the horrible neon yellow and green signs all over town followed by murals of lighthouses painted all over the East End of Commercial Street. AND they plan to do a rack card -- excuse me but the town already has 2 gallery guides and the Banner and Provincetown Magazine cover the gallery scene every week. If people can't find the galleries, it simply that they aren't interested. Let's face it, not everyone comes here to buy art.

Sign the petition to stop this radical know-nothing woman from destroying the reputation of this town!
9:31 am edt 

"Green Line" Monster
Why is it that the town is allowing really one maybe two businesses  to impose their vision on public property with such vast opposition to it?? Everyone should think about the bigger picture and what this is really about. If you look at the BOS meetings on this it appears it was a done deal before the meeting got started.
9:17 am edt 

Saving Open Space

A proposal to expand an existing housing development on the site of the former Bissell Tennis Courts off Bradford Street has been denied.

The conservation commission unanimously rejected a plan to change the original approved development to include six single-family homes. The original plan, approved in 2007, called for the back half of the property, which houses four public tennis courts to be turned into six condominiums located in two buildings.
9:16 am edt 

Legal Advise!
As to point #5: no construction during season. Take a look at the General Bylaws, there's a section that covers hours of operation for construction, which is from 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. 7 days a week.
9:15 am edt 

Parking Department



9:14 am edt 


Join a board, join a board.  Go to meetings, go to meetings.  Contribute.  Make a difference.  Okay, let's take the abutters meeting for the project displayed on this blog.  4 town officials bothered to take time for this even though it had been scheduled for 2 weeks.  Some people actually went to this expecting answers to their questions.  One town official didn't say one word during the entire meeting but kept his head down.  One delegated who got to ask questions and snubbed those whose questions they didn't want to deal with.  One gave ridiculously obtuse answers resulting in no questions really being answered and one kept looking at his watch and was heard saying "I've got to go".  And this one, couldn't substantiate even the simpliest of questions.  Oh yes, let's not forget the selectmen sitting against the wall knitting who left mid-meeting.  When the "meeting" was called to end abutters still had their hands in the air but their questions apparently didn't matter.  B!
ut yet one must join a board to have common sense followed in this town.  Sure.
9:12 am edt 

Re: Ted Malone
9:09 am edt 

Town Board Members

"put their lives on hold and their livelihoods in jeopardy by sitting on these boards"

and the Academy Award goes to...

Are you kidding?  Town boards do it because its a good buck for a little facetime.  None of these people have the good of the common folk at heart.  Look at what's been happening in town and justify it.  Blatant violations.  The problem is, town officials don't follow their own rules.  A taxpaying citizen shouldn't have to become a government official to have simple by-laws followed.  That's the JOB of town officials. Yet they can't do their jobs.  Come on.  Livelihoods in jeopardy.  Lives on hold.  None of these "board members" are waiting for affordable housing but some may qualify for purchasing some really nice, well made prefab condos (oops, I mean townhouse) units.  Give me a break.  
9:08 am edt 

Wednesday, May 5, 2010

Sick of the Complaining!

Why go to meetings cause they don't listen anyway?  Why bother voting when they do what they want anyway?  But do sit at your computer and        all day long about how aggrieved you are about planning board decisions, conservation decisions, selectmen decisions, etc.  Make sure to write about how this town is going straight to hell because no one is doing anything to change things.  Make sure you gripe in hopes that someone else will step up and do the right thing because it's easier for you to complain than to step up to the plate.

You think differences need to be made then JOIN a board and make a difference.  You want to change the density laws or the 'loopholes' you struggle with, then join the planning board and bring to the next town meeting changes that will make a difference.

Face it.  Some people just prefer to complain.  And some people put their lives on hold and their livelihoods in jeopardy by sitting on these boards.

Government does not work in a vacuum.  You want change, then get out there and change things.
6:55 pm edt 

Legal Advice

These guidelines were submitted by a seasoned lawyer who understands what needs to happen with the Boatworks Development.

The HDC should make no decision on the total reconstruction of the Boatworks until:

1. Approval is granted for a brand new structure by the ZBA and the 
   application filed notes that the building was voluntarily
   demolished which gives the owner _*no zoning protection*_. All
   current zoning requirements must be adhered to. For any
   conceivable zoning protection, there must be an order by the
   Building Commissioner to demolish or make safe. *Reconstruction of
   unsafe property to be rebuilt on it's footprint is only allowed by
   right for_ single and two-family_ _dwellings_ per MGL CH 40A. *Any
   new construction (again) must comply with todays bylaws.

2. Planning board approval.

3. Chapter 91 approval for the new structure as  they
   _*voluntarily*_and without approvals demolished the structure,
   they must file for a new Ch 91 license as the state may want to
   permanently remove any encroachment into state land.

4. An outside party needs to look at the permit issued for
   construction and why the Town allowed the changes to take place
   without the applicant going back through the REQUIRED regulatory

5. No construction work should be allowed during the income season of conjoined operating Condo
   businesses until  _*all necessary approvals *_are granted.
6:14 pm edt 

I just read an informational booklet about Cape Cod geared toward promoting tourism for this season.  Guess which Cape town was the only one not in the book.  Now, why do you think that is?  Truro and Wellfleet were enticingly presented and looked quaint.  Provincetown needs no advertising, it's already known as a party town, carnival-like atmosphere.  If you want quaint, go to Chatham.  If you want raunchy and cheap with a couple of galleries thrown in, go to Ptown.  For a joke.  Keep letting greedy overdeveopers ruin the town like the one did with Bangs St. (and reward them while doing it).  Keep approving jammed in, cheap quality condos presented with "trickery" so these rich greedy developers can make a quick buck while the town struggles in every way financially.  Good thinking.  Can't have a high school because population is declining but build, build, build because with less people you surely need more houses and condos.  Are townspeople buying these?  For $650,000.00!
 a pop, I don't think so.  Gunther Realty LLC will make a cool few mill on these babies.  Nothing to sneeze at and only one neighborhood got ruined to do it.  No water, tough.  Drive a dirty car... but whatever you do, don't ever even consider putting a stop to this.  That would make too much sense.
4:49 pm edt 

Important Issues? Sorry Voting Has Become a Joke Here
The issues are done before any vote. And when votes contradict town decisions, like town employee pay raises, they get the raises anyway. Important issues? You fool yourself.
4:47 pm edt 

Regarding Seasonal vs Local Workers:
Let's be honest there are not enough locals to work all the jobs that we need done. Does anyone really have a hard time finding work during the summer?  I have owned a business in town for 10 years.  I will hire any qualified person.  While it is true that I hire many of the Euro kids, I also have locals who work for me.  I pay the Euro kids the same wages I would pay any other employee.  I also pay them overtime wages.  This constant complaining that "we greedy business owners" are just trying to hire cheap labor is not true.  Of course there will be those few who do take advantage of foreign labor, I would say most do not.  Now stop complaining about us vs them and go get a job!  It is going to be a busy summer and business owners need help, if you are a good worker you should have no trouble finding employment...
1:12 pm edt 

Election Results
Since folks are now claiming results that are inaccurate , check  the town web site:,%202010%20Annual%20Town%20Election.pdf

Highest vote count goes to Jim Cole, on the Library  Board of Trustees with 340 votes.

408 ballots cast

Slippery Clam
12:26 pm edt 

Green Line Petition
There is  a petition online  that will be presented to the Board of Selectmen. Please go to this link and sign. Email the Board of selectmen. Attend the May 10 meeting.
10:57 am edt 

Green Line

All of the posts on Shout Out against the green line aren't going to change anything unless you contact a member of the BOS.  Call or send an e-mail before we are forced to live with this ghastly line down Commercial Street for the rest of the summer.  At the April 26th BOS meeting it was clear that the BOS didn't fully understand the scope of this project.  The BOS didn't know that additional art was going to be added along the line.  No one, not even the Green Line Committee, knows what the completed line will look like because they do not have mock visual representation to show the BOS what the finished project will look like.  

The BOS is allowing it remain a "work in progress."  This is a mistake!  The walk the line committee owes it to the town to show what the completed line will look like (not just provide a vague verbal description) before doing any work that changes the landscape of the most prominent street in town.  

The next BOS meeting is May 10th at which time they will discuss this in further detail.  The BOS chair said that she has received more calls in favor of this line than against it.  There are too many unknowns about this project for the BOS to allow it to proceed.  Call or e-mail and express your concerns about this line before the May 10th meeting.


Here is link that gives contact information for the BOS:
9:31 am edt 


Everyone that ran unopposed got in. Adams got the biggest vote count of all the seats, even more than Knight. Sadly, only 408 turned out for what were important decisions to be made on the ballot questions.

You can't bitch if you don't vote!!
9:25 am edt 

Re: Disgruntled Employee
In this town, anyone can make as much money as they want, all you have to do is work for it, show up on time with a pleasant disposition, and do your job. This does not include, being drunk, hung over, or on any kind of drug. There is no entitlement here. It is true that for most of us, in order to survive here we have to work 60 to 100 hours a week for 3 months, and 40 ish for another 6 months. For most people who are here that is normal, in the real world people work all year, and complain that they don't get enough time off. The cost of living is also much higher in places like Boston and New York, and hourly wages are lower than here. Don't blame the foreign workers for your problems, they would not be here if we could do all the work ourselves. And I guarantee that any "good" worker would never be replaced by a foreigner because business owners want stability, and someone they can trust to work year after year. The first step, is to realize that you may be the problem, !
and put your energy towards improving your self, and maybe try working harder. Good luck.
9:23 am edt 

I didn't vote for a school committee member--the high school is closing. I didn't vote for the owner of flyers either. I wrote in names.

Provincetown is the biggest provider of jobs in Provincetown funded by the taxpayers. Taxes will go up, but years down the road we will sell and cash in. There will always be people with money to buy our house; someone just spent over a 100 million for a Picasso.

The US has more millionaires than any other country.
9:21 am edt 

Tuesday, May 4, 2010

Re: Foreign Workers

It's a subject we are all familiar with but few want to discuss. Nobody wants to be the person to "rock the boat."

Many business owners prefer to hire foreigners because they will work for very low wages that will sometimes double with the exchange rate when they return to their own countries. Everyone is familiar with the story of the local seafood restaurant owner who got into trouble for housing his foreign workers under inhumane conditions and refusing to pay them overtime. It all comes down to money.

Business owners have gotten very comfortable with the current situation. Unfortunately they are starting to resemble a bunch of fat, wealthy "plantation owners" with their (in many cases) black "slaves" working long hours for low wages. Some employers even refer to their foreign help as "my Jamaicans" or "my Bulgarians" implying outright ownership.

And since we are talking about race, why is it all the beautiful young Eastern Europeans get the high paying waiter jobs when the hard working Jamaicans all end up in the kitchens and making beds? We can all pretend it's not happening but working class town residents know the reality.

Many local "liberal" business owners will talk loudly about equality and proudly display their Obama stickers on their expensive hybrid cars, but it's a different story when their own money is at stake.
11:43 pm edt 


11:35 pm edt 

Green Line

Like the green line wasn't obvious enough, someone went and sprayed reflective paint on it to alert us to it's monsterous existence at night...DUH!!!!
11:33 pm edt 

Provincetown's Destiny
Look at the empty lots as you drive down Bradford St towards Michael Shays: how long before two houses equal one there? Drive down Court Street and look at the open land there: How long before it is two for one?

Look along Harry Kemp way and up and down the streets in your neighborhood. Take photos five years PARTS of Provincetown will look like Hyannis. Over development in the name of growth.
11:32 pm edt 

Green Line

I have bought quite a lot of art in my life, and I have an extensive collection of mostly Provincetown art. I can guarantee you one thing about my purchases, they are from the heart, and because I love this special place, for its character, and its charm. I was horrified this past weekend to see the abomination of an ugly, disfiguring, appalling green slash across the East end. People who buy fine art will not be dragged to the formerly beautiful east end by a garish, honky-tonk abomination of a green line, maybe it will bring tour-buss people down, to spend there allotted $7.99, but not fine art, and it will turn off those of us who do. And since we know Ms. B. is behind it, I can guarantee that I will never be a customer of hers, nor will my many, many collector friends.
11:31 pm edt 

The Bldr...4 Houses:
Sorry buddy, you saw wrong.  There are only 2.  Yeah, we know what you "saw" but we don't care. There have always been only 2 and there are now only 2.  Does the word "precedent" mean anything to you?  Well, it should.  It is the fiber of this town. Everybody whose anybody says so, so shut up about it.   The environment and dunes look great.  I almost even saw a scrawny blade of grass today on site.  It really is spring.  Hey, keep it on the down-lo (lo-down), the developer would like to sell you a bridge.  Call any town board for details at (sssshhhh) a "special" rate.  Don't worry, we'll work out details later.  (you know, after the appeal process)        
11:29 pm edt 

Re:The Builder Has Constructed 4 Houses!!!!

It looks better than a welfare side by side duplex,  Bangs Street residents should be thrilled.  
11:24 pm edt 

Foreign Workers

I have had my own business for nearly 15 years. I have always tried to hire locally. The last time I did, the "native" employee was not on time once the whole season. Our non-American worker reported to work on time or early every day for the season. American workers have disappointed us many more times than our forgein workers so I do not think the businesses should be blamed for hiring empoyees who work hard and are more competent. It just makes sense.
11:23 pm edt 


Not only does it need to be closed from here on in, a precedent needs to be set with this developer.  She knew she was building 4 under the guise of 2.  Her legal counsel knew it, engineers knew it.  Town officials need to be repremanded, permits nullified and voided and 2 of these 4 (and yes, there are 4) need to be taken down, disconnected, whatever you want to call it, and moved back out of town the same way they came in.  At the very least, an immediate stop work order is more than justified based on the neighbor's cracked foundation alone.  
11:21 pm edt 

Today is Election Day
I don't recall a town election in which we did not have
a single contested election.
That, my neighbors, is something we should all be concerned about. The message goes up the food chain that we, the minions, are content.

Is that true?  

I am not content with what happened at Bangs St.
I think the green line is a goof.
I think that for town employees, even a single one, to get
a pay raise when we are in the middle of the worst recession of a life time, is a travesty.
i think to go to the ballot for $24,000 for the police dept when the town meeting can vote to spend $350,000 on open space without a ballot vote, is totally absurd.

No. I am not content. Who shall i vote for?
I haven't decided.

Slippery Clam
11:20 pm edt 

The Builder Has Constructed 4 Houses!!!!

I just went and looked at the houses being built on Bangs Street.  While it may be legal, There is NO WAY! you are going to convince me that there are 2 house there..
The builder has constructed 4 houses!!!!   How did this happen?  

Whatever loophole the builder slipped through, needs to be closed so this does not happen again. This really is bull****!
10:52 am edt 

Town Boards

In my experience with the Conservation commission, I found Dennis Minsky and the others to be dedicated and of the highest character. They were a strong board and yet worked with me so that both parties' views and requests were respected. Brian Carlson was the same and he worked doubley hard so that when decisions were made they were facilitated expediously. I did not get everything I wanted but the process worked and I am grateful.
10:50 am edt 

Go Out and Vote Today!

There are important fiscal issues. As far as
the selectmen positions, I will not vote for
those two uncontested candidates. I will
be placing write in's for both seats. Do
not leave the space empty. Vote for a
write in and sent a message to Knight
and Santos. I think I'd rather have
Freddie Booba  and Birdcage sit next to Michele.

8:50 am edt 

Concerning Foreign Workers -

I worked down town for the last 8 years, the owner of the
store was required to advertise for local / usa citizens
in order to get visas for the foreign students to work
in the store. a help wanted sign was put in the window
each year, along with newspaper ads.
the owner, in 8 years had only 2 legal citizens apply !!!
for the locals who recieve this bad treatment from our
store owners, i say spread the word of these places
and i am sure things will change fast !post these
stores/restaurants and after same  business name appears
over and over, people will stop buying there !!!!
8:48 am edt 

Developers and Boards

There are no excuses for what is going on with developers and the boards here.

These boards and town officials answer to the people of Provincetown.  Yes, mistakes can happen but ONCE a developer is in violation or a stop work order is issued - from then on in that developer needs to be WATCHED LIKE A HAWK - by the building commissioner and borards thru any subsequent projects they initiate.

There is no excuse for a developer to get away with anything the second time around. If they do - one needs to question what is really going on here.  
8:47 am edt 

Green Line

I have purchased enough art that I would be considered a collector. Luckily many, most actually, of my purchases have been made in Provincetown. Never once was I inspired to visit someone's studio, raise my paddle or cause a red dot to be put on a wall or a price list by a green line running down the center of a street. I trust that you will not come across one person that has. No matter how extensive a collection that they have.
8:43 am edt 

School Closing
Does anyone else see the contrast: In one week the school committee announces that it is closing the school and in the same week a green line is painted down the center of Commercial Street.

The school isn't the heart and soul of the town; a school is where students learn. It is commercial Street and the wharf that is the center of this town and the businesses that keep the town running. The business of Provincetown is business.
8:42 am edt 

Foreign Workers

Re:  "At another place in town, the foreign worker was able to return this year, so the taxpaying American was kicked out to do menial work while this person was given the plum position."

Pretty sure there is more to this 'story' than what you are relaying.  Who's the best worker?  Generally the 'plum jobs' go to the best workers.  My experience with American vs foreign is that all things being equal, the foreign workers usually are willing to work harder.  

Two sides to every story and we've only heard your version.
8:40 am edt 

Green Line

"Green Line" Amazing that most of us have to put up with this stupid, selfish and greedy adventure because of a few galleries and museum. Unbelievable, but everyone should be at the meeting May10 at 6pm because numbers do count. They and the BOS will be surprised by the number of people who show up in opposition.
8:39 am edt 

Monday, May 3, 2010


I doubt the Board of Health is capable of performing an intelligent act like closing down illegal housing.  Although, Mr. Carlson, who has an excellent proven track record with the Conservation Commission (Bangs St.) is working for the Board of Health too so I may be wrong.   Your friend should make the call if he isn't too afraid.  What's stopping him?  It's a toll free number in Boston (and it's anonymous). If he doesn't, someone else may get so fed up they will. It's just a matter of time before some poor worker hits the limit and brings these illegal workers and those feeding this disfunctional system down.  The quicker the better.      
8:30 pm edt 

Anger Over Foreign Job Takeover

My friend is furious that his boss told him that he won't need him in the "high season" because he has these foreign workers coming here. Meantime, he relies on his American worker to clean the rooms etc.

At another place in town, the foreign worker was able to return this year, so the taxpaying American was kicked out to do menial work while this person was given the plum position.

BEWARE: ATTENTION: This displaced worker wants to call the immigration authorities on the restaurants etc. who are paying their workers under the table. He just paid $5,000 in taxes while these people are working under the table.

They have illegal housing that the board of Health will close down etc. Look Out all of you guest houses and restaurants. My friend has nothing to lose. Too bad you are so greedy.
7:40 pm edt 

Green Line
At a restaurant on Saturday night I heard fellow diners say that the closing of the school will be more emotional for the parents than for the students.

The green line has received mountains of attention. Meanwhile, our last high School closes and there is nothing on the blog about it for days it seems.

The high school is peripheral to the lives of the residents who are concerned about their jobs and the cost of living here and making a living.

True fact: anger over foreigners coming here and taking jobs.
7:38 pm edt 

Bangs St. Wrong Direction

I don't like the direction these criticisms are heading. Flies have feelings too and these are possibly on the near extinction list. The Conservation Commission should contract a study to analyse and, if necessary, protect these flies. After all they will belong to Gunther Realty and, so far, every other living thing they were responsible for have been has been amply protected. Uh, yeah, well some small things occasionally slip through the cracks.
7:36 pm edt 

Green Line!!!!!

Just a question!  I would like to know who's dumb idea the Green Line was.  To see the line painted two times was and is a waste of money.  Also, I think we are going to have a big accident one day becouse the Green Line makes Commerical Street look like it is a two way street.  WRONG>
7:35 pm edt 

Speak Out About the Green Line on Facebook
There's a page called "help us remove the neon green line down commercial street".  It already has over 200 supporters.  These are real people with their full names and personal comments, many of whom are willing to have their name and comment read at the May 10th Board of Selectmen meeting!  
7:34 pm edt 

Ms. Baltivik

If you keep up this voter fraud, you may be asked to walk your own personal green line, out of town. Everyone in town knows what you are doing, and mention of the vote in the banner may not be the one you want.
7:32 pm edt 

Flies and Bangs St.
Sad but true.  Will green flies be on the menu?  If so, maybe Michelle and her "troops" can have a meeting and paint a big, stupid green line going down Bangs St. Extension so people can find them.  It wouldn't be any worse than what town officials let go up.    
3:46 pm edt 

Bangs St.

These developers work together as well oiled machines.    Check your town's assessors maps online on the town's website.  Go to Assessors Dept. and click on Maps on the left.  This property here is Map 13-2 Parcel44.  Look across the poor little Bangs St. Extension and Note parcel 13-2-4 because that what Ted Malone owns now.  He is just waiting for Ms. Mencher to open the door wide so he can waltz right in, connect Willow St. to Bangs St. and deliver 50 (I mean 25 connected with pieces of toilet paper) units with 1 affordable one thrown in to insure approval.  Water shortage or not, he's coming.  If there isn't enough water and they let 8 bedrooms on 1/4 acre they can jam 35-50 on an acre, easy.    The Bldg. Inspector didn't even bother to climb the hill to see the damage at the neighbors?  He didn't even know about the damage.  What was he inspecting? The layperson could see it from a distance.  All the non-competents who approved this should be fired and pay fines to boot!
.  Where's the required green space?  According to Maxine Notaro at the sad excuse for a meeting, it's the parking lot.  Since when is a parking lot a green space?  Check your own By-laws Ms. Notaro.  Gravel and pavement aren't "green" and if you think they are, you need to go back to school with Mr. Braun to catch up on your own laws.  
3:44 pm edt 

Two Points

#1- The green line- Ever think that the reason people stop walking as it turns into the gallery district is because they have no interest or not enough disposable income to visit there?  Do you actualy think people with money and taste couldn't find the place where the art is sold if they were in the market for art. Don't think many visitors have thousands of descretionary dollars to buy a painting on inmpulse.

#2 Bangs Street- Go to town hall and look at the application where the math is shown re scale.  If the average size of the permitted buildings is around 1500 sq ft the math was done for 4 buildings, not 2.  If the math shows around 3000sq ft per building, then the calculations were counting 2 buildings. Though it doesnt explain the ConsComm decisions, its a simple way to see if the applicant  was trying to pull a fast one on hte building dept.
1:50 pm edt 

Cape Inn

"Can someone tell us if an affordable housing developer is the buyer and develops the property under 40B how many units would they be entitled to?"

So that would make two, possibly three guest houses/hotels no longer provide lodging.  Will have a negative impact on the room taxes collected in town, definitely not a good omen for our town.  As the guest houses/hotels disappear in town it will definitely affect our tourism economy.
1:46 pm edt 

Ignorance vs. Stupidity

I think everybody knows what stupidity is. Ignorance is the lack of knowledge. As with the majority of the citizens of Provincetown I must confess to ignorance with the subject of town government. The town officials have taken great efforts to promote this ignorance as it is of much value to them personally to keep the secrete deals quiet. This is not aimed specifically at the present administration because it has been bred into us to accept the decisions of town government often without question.
Ive received a property tax invoice from the Town of Provincetown. Why is the mailing address a P.O. Box in Medford, Ma.? I own properties in four other states. None of the tax bills go to the town mailing address but all of them go to the county Tax Assessors office.
I know Provincetown has a full load of serious problems, like The Green Mile or is it the green line, but I would like to know where my money is going to.  
For all I know this money could be going to a developers offshore bank account. I suspect the primary purpose of P.O. Boxes has been illicitly substituted to hide illegal financial dealings.
1:45 pm edt 

On the Bangs Street Menu: Flies Dipped in Breadcrumbs
Flies sauterne. Flies vongolle. Yes, the smell will be terrible but the Bangs Street Menue can be experimental. Flies en croute. What a delightful summer it will be!
1:41 pm edt 

27-31 Bangs Street Development

Refresh my memory, didn't someone say at the 27-31 Bangs Street Abutters meeting with the
Town Manager that the State had been requested to investigate the particulars of the development? 

There are serious rumblings. Any news yet? 
11:08 am edt 

27-31 Bangs Street Development

Every structure in town is built on a dune or on the beach itself. And density issues in a town where some buildings are less than a foot apart seem somewhat selfserving. If we are going to control development it should be based on meaningful consequences like water supply.
10:29 am edt 

Walked the Line

I walked to work this morning from the center of town to the far East End. I walked the line. I'll do it again, and this time I'll wave the cars to the side rather than move myself.

If I have to walk while my car is being fixed..I might as well have fun with my walk and the law : )
10:27 am edt 

Yikes, Bangs St., Yikes

Joining a board isn't going to help one iota when these boards are stacked by people who obviously can't or won't do their jobs by the "book".  These boards answer to higher authorities who are just as bad if not worse.   People complained about this project but complaints fell on deaf ears.  You think the boards didn't know this was going to happen? They approved it anyway.  They didn't want it in 2001 or 2005 but it's okay for Judy Mencher in 2009.   These pictures prove the beefs of the abutters are legitimate.  What more do you need, a sinkhole would have had the same effect and have been more aesthetically pleasing.  No vegetation left and dune destruction.  Hey Conservation, good job. At least the septic waste from a sinkhole wouldn't end up draining down the hill through beachsand into the wetland.  This will smell nice in August after a good rain.  Hope everyone in this neighborhood likes flies.  Absolutely disgusting.  
10:26 am edt 

Ms Baltivik:
Just because you bought a Gallery in a lousy location with no street presence, don't expect the rest of the Town to come bail you out. You got what you paid for.Maybe you should have thought of that before you bought your gallery The Green Line assaults the senses. See you at the selectman's meeting, as god is my witness, the green line will disappear.
10:23 am edt 

Re: Hello Editor
If you would like to print out posts, just copy and past them into an Open Office document.  You can download the software for free here.
10:22 am edt 

Re: Skewing the Vote on the Green Line
"the person who is against the green line (and I agree it is garrish) has skewed the votes IN  FAVOR of the green line in an attempt to make the proponents look like they are manipulating the vote! He is clever, isn't he!"

THE PERSON! Haven't you heard the word around town? Have you not noticed how many East End gallery owners are posting on the Facebook page (Help us remove the neon green line down commercial street)? Your theory is pure garbage! Anyone who has ever entered the Baltivik gallery has seen Ms. B. sitting at her computer playing games. Obviously, now she has another game to occupy her days -- voting to make it appear that the town is in favor of her ugly green line.

Can't wait for the people from Fidelity to come to town to check it out. If ever there was a case for copyright infringement -- this is it. A lawsuit is in the future thanks to the brilliant Ms. B. and her cronies.

10:21 am edt 

To: The Person Wanting to Print Text

You don't have to print the pictures.  Highlight the text you want and hit Print and print selection and only the text will print, not the pictures.  Hope this helps.
10:20 am edt 

Re: Bangs St.-To: The Person Seeing 1 and 1/2 Stories?

How do you see 1 1/2 stories?  I see 4 bldgs. each with 2 stories. How can a story be 1/2?  Do you bend over to walk? Not over-scale?  One, maybe, 2 at most, but a Starbucks would have been less intrusive. What State hurricane regs? Quality is cheap (CHECK OUT UNITS 2C AND 2D AND THE CROOKED WINDOWS BECAUSE THEY STUCK 2 BLDG. HALVES TOGETHER THAT AREN'T EXACTLY THE SAME), no impact zone glass, etc., etc.  And the all-knowing Bldg. Inspector proclaims this isn't "Controlled Construction", so, I guess, it isn't.   Maybe the "Selectmen" need to put a refresher course for him up for discussion.  or Maybe he really doesn't know.  He certainly didn't follow any of the rules and requirements associated?  No letters, no evidence of a LCS on site at all phases, etc.  None of this was done. Oh, but the abutters didn't file an appeal, so it doesn't matter. It's bad enough town by-laws were stepped all over, but how is it State Bldg. Regs. are ignored by those paid to uphold them? Or maybe the more important question is why? Why would town officials bend over backwards for this developer?  This project is obviously illegal.  This developer wouldn't even hire local builders so as not to cut into her profit margin, yet she gets away with more than what others before her proposed and couldn't. Why doesn't this developer go to a town where she would actually have the room she needs for her grandiose pre-fab parks instead of jamming them into Provincetown?   If I told my dead father town hall is backing becoming a trailer park town, he would shake his head in disgust and say "Você está me gozando. Tudo está perdido."  and then he'd move to Truro, like so many others who grew up in town have.  
10:17 am edt 

Please, Stupid is Stupid
Why say anthing more. This ridiculous vomit-green line makes no sense. An idea without the right context is just plain stupid. Justifying nonosense is crazy.
12:44 am edt 

What Happened to This Dune?

How could you destroy this dune, stick this building into it, and say that you care about the environment. I think our conservation Commission is must a joke. The wetlands are comprimised. The native vegetation clear cut. The dunes destroyed and pieces and tress just tumble down. And they have the nerve to say they are protecting the wetlands, native vegetation and the dunes?

Conservation Commission is just another board compromised in Provincetown. What are they getting in their back pockets from developers? Sorry, but money sadly talks in Provincetown and I now believe our boards are being corrupted by developers.
12:43 am edt 

Katherine Baltivik Suggesting: "Bacteria" ???

BANNER: 4/29
It damages my business before it begins, complained Hank Keenan, who is opening a new estate jewelry store at 350 Commercial St., right where the green line starts. Its vulgar and tacky. I dont understand how the town can show favoritism toward the art galleries.
12:42 am edt 

Miss B
Can someone tell me who Miss B is that they want to write in for Selectmen?  I would like to know before I vote.
12:41 am edt 

Cheryl Andrews

That was a very stupid and mindless idea to remove Cheryl from her position on the county wastewater collaborative. She was deeply involved with her representation and should remain in her position to protect the towns interests. Bedard, with all due respects, is way behind on the knowledge that she has. And for Couture to claim the county won't make Provincetown contribute to upper cape waste water issues just shows how stupid she really is. Provincetown just lost a very important face representing them in a very good manner. She should be reinstated, regardless of what the county is asking. Truro stayed with their rep because they feel they are in good hands. Provincetown WAS. This is a very bad idea and we are soon to be under the control of the county, not ourselves. Reinstate Cheryl now before its too late.
12:39 am edt 

Miller Hill

You should get your facts straight before you comment.  The main house and the Hawthorne School of Art are owned by two separate individuals, of whom neither are Mr. Weiss.  
12:38 am edt 

Cape Inn

Can someone tell us if an affordable housing developer is the buyer and develops the property under 40B how many units would they be entitled to?
12:35 am edt 

Green Line

East of Dyer Street new commercial uses are strictly limited to art galleries. Our zoning bylaw even goes so far as to define art. This has been the case and for over 30 years and the rents and values of commercial property in the gallery district are depressed. It is a scheme we seem to have all accepted and embraced. If they want a green line, then let them compete with tee shirt shops, sunglasses and rubber chickens.
12:34 am edt 

Yikes! What a Disaster Bangs Street is! How Did This Happen!

Where were you when there were openings on boards.  Instead of complaining about boards, join one - maybe you can make a difference.
12:33 am edt 

Re:Katherine Baltivik Statement:
"The people involved are using the line to cover up their feelings that other businesses might get some of their foot traffic."

Exactly, Ms. Baltivik. Your entire reason for cramming this lousy idea down the throats of anyone who would listen to you is exactly that. You have a terrible location for your gallery. You're upset that nobody comes to your openings. Your entire logic is self-centered and greedy. Not to mention tasteless and lame. Instead of enhancing the East End gallery district, you're doing exactly the opposite.

The groups that supported your foolish idea should be ashamed of themselves. It's as if they were supporting only the restaurants in the center of town between specific streets or just the guesthouses in the West End. THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!!!!
12:32 am edt 

Green Line

I voted hundreds of times for Magnum. I also voted hundreds of times against the green line. That's not voter fraud! It doesn't say to only vote once!

Maybe Magnum will come to Ptown this summer!
12:30 am edt 

Green Line

I just have to share this on this blog: the person who is against the green line (and I agree it is garrish) has skewed the votes IN  FAVOR of the green line in an attempt to make the proponents look like they are manipulating the vote! He is clever, isn't he!
12:29 am edt 

27-31 Bangs Street

How are pre-fabs like the Bangs street project allowed by new(2.5 yrs old) hurricane standard regs allowed? That being said, The pics don"t look bad at all... the design is good even the density is less than new projects  in west end. If some can do it shouldn't all?
12:28 am edt 

Green Line

Voter fraud? Let's see: 1200 people have voted against the line.  Though protest too much!

I'm writing in Baltivik too! You go girl!
12:27 am edt 

Re: Bangs Street

We have a by-law regulating the scale of new construction relating to buildings within 250 ft.  Were the calculations for Bangs Street done for four individual (modest size) buildings (considered individually) that might be in scale with the surrounding houses OR were calculations done for TWO oversized buildings that are MUCH larger than surrounding houses and if so how did that pass????
12:26 am edt 

Green Line
I hate to admit this since I was very vocally against the Green Line, but I have actually grown to like it.  I walk down the street now and it makes me smile (in a good way).
12:24 am edt 

Let's Just Admit the Green Line is Silly and Wrong
Paint it over and let's be done with this stupid marketing scheme. People make mistakes. his surely is one. It defines this town as purely tacky!
12:23 am edt 

Bangs Street
I've seen the pictures and I have been by there several times.
These are one and a half story buildings and they seem to be in scale with the area. What is every body up in arms about? Could it be perhaps that this is the hood of the web master?  
This is normal density for our Res 3, multi-famly zoning district.

As to the allegations of "clear cutting"- Hello have you ever seen a bore test soil sample of any and every building site in Town? Once you go 8" under the top soil there is course sand. The whole Town is built on a dune.

The developer has a proven track record of decent design and relatively high quality.  

I do not work for her and I do not think I have never even met her.
12:22 am edt 

Bangs St.
Instead of saying from here on in let's stop these developers.  Let's stop this one and send a clear message.  Judy Mencher is the developer and her buddy Ted Malone owns the property right next door.  He is just waiting for her to get away with this so he can pounce and put in his 25 (oh, I meant 12/5) units.  She is setting the precedent for him so let's set a precedent with her.  If Ptown has never made anyone tear down a bldg. let's start now.  Other towns don't allow the insulting greed of this developer shown by the project.  These developers prey on this town because they know once it's built there's nothing the town can do to stop it.  All aspects of the project need to go under the magnifying glass from the permitting process to date.  It is obvious something is very wrong here and it needs to stop with this project, not the next one or the next one.  THIS ONE.  AND IT NEEDS TO STOP NOW.  
12:19 am edt 

Sunday, May 2, 2010

Katherine Baltivik Statement:

As far as getting a group organized to work with the line, this was a suggestion on what might be a possibility now Though there are people against the line, I assure you that there are many people for it.. There is a group that is spreading misinformation and making what I call a bacterial feeding ground for others who are misinformed. The people involved are using the line to cover up their feelings that other businesses might get some of their foot traffic. So they are using the public. One business person came to the last BOS meeting and said exactly that. I really hate to see this group using people that way.
6:02 pm edt 

Green Line

"Walk the line" organizer statement:
Katherine Baltivik Liz The line received backing from all the major business organizations, the Chamber of Commerce, the Provincetown Business Guild, the Provincetown Arts Museum, The Visitor Tourist Bureau, the Tourism Office and finally the Board of Selectmen. All these people are associated with other committees in town have far more experience than I and would not have approved anything that overstepped into another committee's realm. Please remember that the line is on a paved surface.
As far as getting a group organized to work with the line, this was a suggestion on what might be a possibility now Though there are people against the line, I assure you that there are many people for it.. There is a group that is spreading misinformation and making what I call a bacterial feeding ground for others who are misinformed. The people involved are using the line to cover up their feelings that other businesses might get some of their foot traffic. So they are using the public. One business person came to the last BOS meeting and said exactly that. I really hate to see this group using people that way.
I doubt if you would have any interest in business meetings on decals, slogans, postcards and advertising. Basically this is what is discussed. This is just one small committee in the hub of much bigger ones. If you really want to get involved, there are all the boards mentioned who need volunteers and members to sit on town boards. This is where you can make a difference.
I appreciate your dialogue and will keep you informed of any major decisions that I feel may affect you since I think I have a sense of the issues to which you are sensitive.
Please always feel that you comments and input are very important to me.
5:47 pm edt 

Google Search

I ended up here via a Google search. This is, hands down, the most horrifically "designed" page I've ever witnessed on the Internet. You can get offshore web designers for $8.00 an hour. You might want to look into it. This is baaaaaaaaaad.
5:45 pm edt 

Voter Fraud!

This should be the Banner headline for the Ugly Green Line.
5:43 pm edt 

The Green Line Survey
It is now up over 4000 votes. That would mean that more than every registered voter in town has voted. Since I have yet to meet a single person in town who approves of the line (including 6 gallery owners in the East End), this probably means that Katherine Baltivik, her pal Candace and Johniene from Gallery Voyeur are spending their days voting.  It is too bad they have nothing better to do. It is called VOTER FRAUD, they know what they are doing, but so does the whole town. The voter fraud on the banner pole is the main topic of conversation in town, leaving the line itself on the back burner. People were UPSET that the line is hideous, people are now ANGRY that a few are committing blatant VOTER FRAUD  to try to show that the line has public support. The line does not have thousands of supporters, it has 3, and everyone in town knows who they are.
5:42 pm edt 

Don't Let Cape Inn Become 27-31 Bangs Street

Any news on the Cape Inn being sold? Let's be careful, so no rich developer comes in and puts up 50-100 condos. If they can fit 4, or was that 2, sure looks like 4 condos at the end of Bangs, they can surely put 100 on the Cape Inn property. Keep your eyes open.
5:40 pm edt 

27-31 Bangs Street

Let's help prevent another Bangs Street debacle! From now on when there is notice that a developer has bought land and wants to build, let's everyone, and I mean everyone go to the meeting and oppose it. Let's not let these rich ass developers come into our town, rape it and leave with all of the $$$$. This needs to stop. Power in numbers people. No more building in Provincetown, let's put a moratorium on building. Stick together and we can make it happen.
5:38 pm edt 

Yikes! What a Disaster Bangs Street Is! And Yes, How Did This Happen?

Planning and Zoning and Conservation and Health Boards had NO problems with this? Then I have a probelm with them. Dunes destroyed. Vegetation clear cut. Wetlands Buffer too close. Plus, I can count. I see four buildings, not two. They all looked at these plans and saw only two buildings? Really? What magic glasses did this developer offer to these board members?
5:37 pm edt 

Hello Editor

At some time please remove the photos. i print this blog for a family member that enjoys reading the comments. however i can not now print this each day as the
photos will cause me to use up my color ink way to quickly. at some time iam sure bangs street will be old news.  
5:35 pm edt 

Look at Miller Hill

Another destroyed land. Even Charles Hawthorne's Nationally Registered Barn stands there like a museum after this horrible development. the neighbors compalin and demand this does not happen. Voices thrown into the wind. The developer, Ken Weiss, turns open land into profit. A destroyed national heritage ll for more and more money. And who is an accomplice in helping him get all permits and bypass variances? Who indeed! Having friends in key positions helps, doesn't it Weiss?
5:33 pm edt 

Developers Reign Here and So Does Their Money

How corrupt! The land is destroyed, the neighborhood ruined with this density, and the vegetation destroyed, the dunes collapsing, and abutters losing pieces of their land. What an abomination. And no one did anything wrong? How illegal our legal system is. It opens the doors for developers--including our Building Commissioner who is one--and yet craps upon the head of all neighbors who must live with the end result of a developer's profit. Profit and more profit and destroy the land and undermine the vegetaion and then have the Conservation Commission insists--in loud accord--to have five trees--oh, yes, all native indigenous species, please--planted on the desecrated land.

Thanks for the pictures. This is more than absurd. It is corrupt and too many players are involved in opening the door, laying down the Walter Raleigh cloak, so the money people can step all over our land. And how much money have these develoeprs stuffed in our town officials pockets? How many indeed!
5:31 pm edt 


If Miss B. is a 'steamroller,' than I want her to run for Selectman and get something done in this Town for a change!
Write in Miss B. on Tuesday!
5:29 pm edt 

School Committee

Deb Travato has no one to blamed by herself and her colleagues on the School Committee. How many years were they in denial about school declining enrollment? And how many years did they do nothing about it? Nine years that is how long they all sat on their hands afraid to do anything but wish it away.

Too late Deb. I actually blame you and the rest of the School Commmittee for closing the high school.  Your ill-timed marketing plan was too little, much too late.

I hope you always live with the burden of your poor choices while you were on the School Committee as you have served the our community poorly.
5:28 pm edt 

Green Line

Thankfully, I live in the West end of town. We have nice shops and galleries and maintain a quiet and dignified neighborhood feel. If the East end wants to join the ranks of the t-shirt and hot dog vendors in town center by painting tacky lines in the road and erecting dozens of brightly colored signs, so be it.

I would expect other East end business owners, who undoubtedly will feel the negative effects of this garish advertising campaign, would be more vocal in their opposition. However, it seems as though they are content to sit back and allow a couple of tasteless bigmouths to dictate the appearance of their neighborhood.

Such a shame.
5:26 pm edt 

Bangs Street

These pictures really show how overscale this project is. How could this have been allowed by our town boards?  The septic waste and drainage from these 4 (and there are definitely 4) separate buildings with 8 bedrooms will end up in the wetland for sure just by the nature of gravity alone.

The dune is ruined, the trees are ruined, any vegetation has been completely obliterated and this is awful.  I am shocked.  Any other town in the state wouldn't have allowed this.  For a start, void out these permits based on deceptive presentation alone.  2 of these eyesores must come down immediately.  Load them on trucks and move them out the same way they were moved in.  Then the damage needs to be assessed, repairs made to the environment if it can be, and serious fines levied after a complete investigation of how this was allowed.  I wonder who got what for this as there is no way this should have been approved or would have been approved in any other Cape town not facing a water shortage.  

Who does this developer know in town hall?  Come on.  This is really bad.  I think an investigation into this project including all those involved at any level needs to be done immediately.
12:47 pm edt 


There are millions of people with out jobs; a tornado in  Missippi blew away some towns; Louisian has a shoreline and ecosystem that may be enguled in oil and ruined for decades and we in Provincetown have a green line.

How fortunate I am to live here free and easy, as happy as the grass is green, with no misfortune in my life, surrounded by loving friend who I TRUST. And a family that loves me.

The green line is a speck on my shoulder that I flick off as I attend to the bountiful feast of love, happiness and laughter that is my life.

A blight on Provincetown is the jamming of houses on a small parcel of land--not a green light.

We close a school and the consequences are that our students enter a world of youths and challenges and noise and learning and friendships at Nauset High school.

Don't cry over a green line.
12:45 pm edt 

Green Line

What is the web address to vote in the Banner poll?  I go to WIcked and dont see it. Thanks
12:45 pm edt 

Supporting the Students

Deb Travato said that the town isn't supporting the school. We residents have supported the school for decades. Now we are supporting the students.

closing the school is hard on the parents--not the students. High School should be a stepping stone for these students: Stepping into high school, stepping into college and then stepping into the world.

Isn't the job of the parent to prepare their children to enter into the world and not keep them tied to their apron Strings? What are the job opportunities here for someone with ambition and talent and a vision for a career?

How will spending 4 years with 4 other students that a student has grown up with and gone to school going to be challenging and exciting?

Dry your tears, parents, and let your children blossom and grow to their full potential and offer them than a job at Seashore point or bussing tables.
12:43 pm edt 

Green Line

For the record can you name the 5 other galleries besides Albert Merola Gallery who is already on the record for opposing it.
12:42 pm edt 

The Green Line Survey
It is now up to 3,437 votes. That would mean that basically every registered voter in town has voted. Since I have yet to meet a single person in town who approves of the line (including 6 gallery owners in the East End), this probably means that Katherine Baltivik, her pal Candace and Johniene from Gallery Voyeur are spending their days voting.

It's quite easy -- just quit your browser and vote again and again. The results will be the next Banner. If you hate the ugly line, take a few minutes and votes as many times as you can. We don't want the results in the Banner to look like they have the town behind them. I know this is childish but when you're dealing with a steamroller like Ms. B. -- what else can we do?
10:34 am edt 

Photos of Our Destiny
These photos show the destiny of all of the open spaces in Provincetown if we don't amend/change our by-laws.

Every resident should see these photos to see what lies in wait ready to pull into their neighborhood on a train of flat bed trucks.

Stop this now because Developers are overloading the planning board with plans for these developement--two equals one: double the density, double the profits and doubly ruining neighborhoods.

Funny, the developers live in the spacious mansions with water views--but they can't "afford" to build homes for families with children--not enough profit.  
10:31 am edt 

Historic Rains

Rhode Island experienced record breaking rains. No one alive has ever experienced the downpours that flooded Rhode Island.

Look at the photos of the buildings (which magically appeared on my computer without a second's hesitation). If Provincetown were to be flooded by such rains, what would it do this housing development on Bang's Street? Or to 90 Shankpainter Rd.?

Haven't these buildings broken the "scale" law, aren't they illegal because they are out of scale? In Dartmouth MA, they make people tear down buildings and fill in improperly placed foundations.

Two buildings may be one, four buildings may be two, but the devastated landscape is the sad reality with which we must live.
9:31 am edt 

Bangs St.
Thank you for the photos.  This tells the story.  Ridiculous. No problem downloading w/comcast.  I am wondering what on earth went on "behind the scenes" to allow such an overdevelopment and rape of the land within the 100 foot buffer zone.  Septic should be next on the list for install.  These are not "built" yet and because no bldg. has even been torn down, why not set a precedent and send a clear message.  There's no time like the first.  
9:29 am edt 

Please, enough with the huge pictures.  Even with a high speed connection, it still takes time to download all these images.  Either upload them as smaller files or put them on another page and just put a link here on the Shout Out page.
7:11 am edt 

27-31 Bangs Street

Bangs Street is built. And in the history of the town, I  can't remember anyone having to tear down a building, The only thing abutters can do now is to stall anyone from moving into these units. Hire some good lawyers to do what they do best, keep the case against the developer going  until she runs out of money or gives up.
7:09 am edt 

Green Line

The historic committee has absolutely no say about the green line or anything other than whats on the outside of buildings. And the beautification committee also has no say in what the town wants to paint on town roads.
7:08 am edt 

Saturday, May 1, 2010

Re: Boston Water Main Disaster
Surely someone can blame this on Guertin. He must have been in the area!

- not a town employee, etc.
11:43 pm edt 

Hey Put Up or Shut Up:
Then explain why a member of the Board of Selectmen was knitting in the corner like a rat and got up to leave in the middle of the meeting as if she had something better to do at a "special" public meeting hosted by the Town Manager where she was introduced as a member of the Board of Selectmen. Explain why the Conservation Commission Agent spent the whole meeting with his head down like he was a bad puppy being punished with not a word to contribute even though his board was pertinent.  Did these people get paid for this meeting?  If so, shut up you self (and that's not a typo).  and, by the way, there's no F in tooth, eitha
11:42 pm edt 

Re: Green Line, Bangs St., High School, and the List Goes on and on

Re: "...The renovation is costing plenty and should definitely include all those almighty town EMPLOYEES cashing paychecks every week who have become way too comfortable doing nothing for money..."

More baseless accusations.  If you know of a town employee who is doing nothing then let us know who it is.  I sense resentment in your post and I suspect you have nothing to back up your 'know it all' attitude.

I don't work for the town, but I appreciate those who put in the very long hours for pay that isn't as great as you seem to think it is.

Put up or shut up!  Which town employee is doing nothing for money?
7:33 pm edt 

Cheap Place to Winter
The school is closing. The school has so little impact on the lives of the residents of this town that it is a non-issue.

The emotional ties of some residents and the families that all moved to Truro to create their neighborhood there no bemoan the fact that the school is closing.

Ten years of declining student enrollment has reached its inevitable conclusion and the Dept. of Revenue stated that this could not stand.

The school should have closed years ago--they only prolonged the agony.
7:32 pm edt 

Green Line, Bangs St., High School, and the List Goes on and on
It is high time for a good spring cleaning in Town Hall.  The renovation is costing plenty and should definitely include all those almighty town EMPLOYEES cashing paychecks every week who have become way too comfortable doing nothing for money. To knit at an abutters meeting...and yes, Mary Jo, we know who you are.  Disgraceful. Yeah, we know you are not running again, but really, how disrespectful to those people who actually give a XXXX.   You should be ashamed... and the worst part is, you grew up here, as did many of us on this blog.    
7:20 pm edt 

Long Green Line, vs Sign Permits

1 Ft x 500 Ft = a 500 Sq. Ft. sign    can all the other businesses in town have a 500 sq. Ft. sign now that there is legal precedent to do so. But wait, there is more, the Galleries are going to have even more signage, in the form of flags, so I guess every other business in town can have their own flags. Precedent  must be unbiased, or it will open the town up to millions of dollars in lawsuits. Get ready 2010 here we come, right down the hideous line, we have truly sunk to new depths.
5:38 pm edt 

Good Intentions, Bad Plan

Did the "Long Green Line" get permission from the Historic Committee? I don't think so. The East end is a historic district, and that line is a blight which detracts from the entire neighborhood. If the businesses (Galleries) in the East end want greater profits, maybe they could try Advertising there wares.                What will happen when the restaurants want lines, and don't forget the masseuses, Guest Houses, Motels, Hotels, Street Performers,T-Shirt Stores, Trinket Shops, Jewelry Stores, Candy Stores, Pizza Places, Gas Stations, Supermarkets, Churches, Parking Lots, Whale Watches, Fishing Tours, Boat rentals, and all the other small businesses in town? Legally the town has set a precedent, and may not discriminate, now all the other businesses have a right to their own lines, in every section of Commercial St, and maybe the whole town.   Did anybody think this through?   Good intentions, bad plan.
5:34 pm edt 

I Do Believe that Town Leaders Need More Than a Grammar School Education
You think that is too much to ask? I don't. I think Michele Couture's lack of education manifests itself in her poor decisions, her secrecy, her inability to be transparent, the incredible number of Executive Seesions she establishes, and her overall mismanagement of crucial town decisions.

Frankly, Couture is a disaster and her advocating for the Green Line just indicates her poor,uneducated thinking.

She is not the brightest bulb!
5:32 pm edt 

Bangs Street
The time to complain about a bold violation is after it happens, not before.  It's a little hard to complain about something you don't know about.  If the developer, engineer and legal counsel all promise they won't damage the dune in any way there is no reason to complain.  If they wait 90 days until the "appeal" process is up and then clear cut the dune beyond recognition causing a neighbor's house foundation on the top to crack in the process, people with brains are going to complain. The 90 day appeal process, what town officials are saying is the reason abutters can't complain, doesn't matter in a case where permits were based on lies told to mislead the public on this.  All the lies  came to light after the 90 appeal process was up.  Do you think that's a coincidence?  Get real.  The laws were seriously bent and broken to allow this project.  The developer, her legal counsel and town officials played this game together and they all need to be called out for cheating.  
5:31 pm edt 

To: P.S.

Yeah, sure, you spoke to the CEO of Fidelity on a Saturday.  Right...  and let me guess, they put you right thru and gave you a nice pretty balloon too.

Consider yourselves warned.  This green line could be the most expensive green line you'll ever see.
5:29 pm edt 


I just called the CEO of Fidelity. We had a good laugh about the ridiculous local rumor of a representative being dispatched to review the green line.

Walking the green line and out to dinner tonight!
3:07 pm edt 

Re: Confused

I had the same problem as some other site but found my way back here.
The Green Line...unless it's the identical color to the financial company's green line, I don't think they'd have a suit.
Have you heard what's going on at Seashore Point? The waiters in the nice dining room all got new uniforms. There are no people to serve! And, at the same time, the staff of the nursing home was told they are not allowed to change the residents after 11PM. I can't prove this is true...only passing along what I've heard here and there.
3:06 pm edt 

Not the Heart and Soul

The schools are not the heart and soul of the town. It is where the students go to learn.

Look at Louisiana: If their school closed no one would notice. But with the oil Spill, their town is deveastated.

We have no students in the school. Lets regionalize the elementary school.
2:53 pm edt 

Just Catching up

I just got back into town after being away for a few months.  I'm just now catching up on the news, as I don't get the Banner while I'm traveling abroad. It's unfortunate the schools are closing, (this is due to change in times over the years); the green line is causing so much trouble(although it's not very becoming) and the Bang's Street issue still blows in the wind like clothes on the clothes line.  Can someone tell me how many people actually attended the public hearingson these topics?  In followning the blog it sounds like not many people attened the various meetings on these projects.  The time to comment is during the process and not after.
2:52 pm edt 

Green Line/Mechele Couture

How about you get over invalidating Couture's support of the green line because she might not meet your biased view of an education?

Sound good 'honey?'
2:50 pm edt 

Yes, Edward II is a Marvelous Production
So glad to have Tony Jackman back at the theater. He is a man of many talents. I like how Jackman takes on dramatic challenges and turns them into staged successes.

Edward II is a wonderful production. It's playing at the Provincetown Theatre tonight. Tomorrow is the last night.

Great work. Community theatre at its best.
11:41 am edt 

Provincetown High School

May I point out something that has been nagging away at me for several days? Our town is losing its high school; something that has been such a huge piece of this community! So what do we consistently gripe about on this blog? The Green Line! How pathetic, but how apropos! Provincetown is definitely no longer the town I grew up in! Its very, very sad and such a terrible loss to this once tightly knit community to lose the very fabric of what a true community is.

My heart goes out to the kids and their families. I also feel for the school committee members that were forced to make this unfortunate decision. Mr. Adams, Mrs. Patrick and Mrs. Trovato are all former PHS graduates. I cant even begin to imagine how difficult this must have been for them. As they go forward to restructure our schools, let us hope that we can keep good people like them to lead the schools back to something we can be proud of again!

Provincetown has lost something; its very soul has been shaken to its foundation.

11:40 am edt 

Re: "Us Dducated, Very Successful Primary Voters and Taxpayers"
Wow, that has to be the most pretentious, preening, self congratulatory posting I've ever seen on here. Get over yourself honey. Just cause you made your money in a bubble that accidently aggregated wealth to a tiny portion of the population doesn't make your vote or opinion on whit more important than anyone else's.
11:38 am edt 

Gfreen Line and Bangs Street
GREEN LINE:  My Fidelity Rep. said yesterday that they had heard of the "green line" in Ptown and that a local Fidelity Rep. was going down today to see it first hand.   Then they can decide if a legal issue is present. They do have sole rights to this "green line" advertising including using it "to show the way".  Fidelity is all about making money and they may have a perfect chance to do this here.  Did the BOS get permission for using Fideility's idea?  This is the age of lawsuits so whether this green line stays or goes may be a mute point as the town could end up paying much more for it than they bargained in legal fees alone to defend it.

BANGS ST.:  A drive down Bangs St. Ext. proved trucks from this project can't park or turn around without considerable encroachment on the abutter's property.  All abutters, especially #30 Bangs St., need to rope off their property w/simple stakes and clothes lines to prevent this.  This eye-sore was proposed as having more than enough room.  How on earth will a fire truck turn around?  The Bangs St. eyesore has taken a backseat to the green line and it is time to put it back on the front burner.  THIS MONSTROSITY WILL SET A PRECEDENT THAT WILL TRANSFORM PROVINCETOWN INTO  A CONGLOMERATION OF CHEAP MODULAR HOME PARKS.  DEVELOPERS ARE OUT TO MAKE A BUCK WITH SUCH A BLATANT DISREGARD FOR THE TOWN AND ITS YEARROUND RESIDENTS THAT IT IS MINDBOGGLING. TOWN OFFICIALS ARE OBVIOUSLY INEPT IN DEALING WITH THESE DEVELOPERS AND ENFORCING THEIR OWN BYLAWS, OR MAYBE THEY DON'T WANT TO.  IT'S NOT THE BYLAWS, IT'S THE OFFICIALS.  ARE TOWNSPEOPLE THAT WEAK AND IGNORANT THAT THEY LIKE BEING !
11:36 am edt 

School Closing
The student population has been decreasing for ten years. Before you write another word about keeping the school, please listen to the Francese Report. I listened to it and it made me realize years ago that we needed to close the school.

We aren't abandoning the students--we are improving their lives by having them go to Nauset.

You think that these few students in a class create a band of brothers? There are rivalries and jealousies etc. familiarity breeds contempt. I was forced to walk to school with the same guy because our parents were friends.

I'd get to his house and he was half ready so I had to sit there for half and hour and then we would have to rush to school. 4 years of this      . I didn't know how to sit down and explain my position to my parents.

These students with the most esoteric interest will find like minded students in a big school. Liberate them from this enforced school life with the same handful of people since first grade!! a jail sentence for some.
11:33 am edt 


When I'm here in Provincetown and I go to, I get this site. When I'm at my house 100 miles away, I no longer get this site. I get another mypacc site. I'm taking his and sending it to myself in an e-mail so I can paste it into my address box.

Is anyone else having this problem? I hope I can resolve this, otherwise I'll miss out on reading this blog all next winter.
11:31 am edt 

Tackey Town
Provincetown is a tackey town,thats what Town Hall turned it into.
11:29 am edt 

Congratulations to Tony Jackman on His Edward II

Go see it. the Provincetown Theater has done a fabulous job. The  action is wonerful. Tthe production amazing. We are lucky to be here with Tony Jackman's on the edge pproduction.

I say: Go now. There are only two nights left. Saturday and Sunday. They are amazing and the actors let us know why acting takes us to new levels and takes us beyond ourselves.
1:41 am edt 

Re: School Closing
I have lived here for 10 years.  I think it is a sad situation that we have to close the high school.  However, I do think that it is inevitable that the school must close.  I do not take delight in this and think it is unfair for some on here to imply that "we" want the children and families to go away.  
However, the families have been moving away for years... I think it would be great to keep the school, but you can not have a highschool with 4,5 or 6 children in a class, it is not fair to the kids!
I think that there are many who think closing the school is better for the children, and is not simply about the potential cost savings.  
So it is with a heavy heart that I think closing the school is probably the correct choice...
1:39 am edt 

Yes, I just voted 30 times.   Won't tell you what way I voted, but I would NOT believe what ever the outcome is on the banner site.   Only took me about 5 or 6 minutes to do it.  I am sure others are doing the same thing.  
Seems like we have become a third world country here with wrongful votes.    
1:38 am edt 

So Much More to Talk About

Who chose green for the line? It should have been neon pink! LMAO - Can we just please stop writing about the line. Who the hell cares about it? There are so many more important issues going on in town... the HS closing, dunes caving in, harbor issues, bars staying open until 2... how about something new! Any word on the Cape Inn being sold? When is the sale going through? Is there any truth in the sale? Will it be torn down and developed into high end condos? Will it stay a hotel? What about the new Foxberry Inn at the old Bill White's motel? John is doing a wonderful job transforming that property? What else is happening in town? How was Victor's opening last week? How is the building/rennovation going on the Murchinson property?

Inquiring minds want to know!
1:37 am edt 

"Walking the Ugly Line"
Not sure how many galleries are for it but AMG is not!
1:35 am edt 

Signs for Art

Can someone tell me if the signs are allowed and if so, who approves them?  I thought the Town had a sign bylaw.  I know I had to apply for a sign permit for my store and was told it could only be 16 square feet in the zone i'm in.  Would this same bylaw apply?
1:33 am edt 

Green Line, Green Line
Enough with the green line.  It is stupid.  Those who came up with it need to get hobbies.  By next year, the pavement will be cracked and potholes will swallow "the green line".  Tell people its the bike path and PLEASE can we move beyond the green line?  
1:32 am edt 

Green Line vs 27-31 Bangs Street

  NEXT NEW ISSUES WILL BE FOUGHT OR DEFENDED. THE CHINESE SAYING THAT     THE OXEN ARE SLOW BUT THE EARTH IS PATIENT COMES TO MIND REagrding all that provincetown was  and is now and will be in the future  is to be or not to be.  
1:31 am edt 

We Live in an Art Colony and Fishing Village!

What's wrong with painting murals on the street, they paint or decal a Rooster on the streets during Portuguese Festival week.  We should not be descriminatory towards any groups whether they be ethnic or businesses.  

Perhaps we could have a scene in front of the galleries and let's say for example, in front of the hot dog stands there could be a foot long hot dog, or a clam basket, or a sub roll in front of George's or a pizza in front of Spiritus.  At the beginning of the pier we could have a Fisherman in foul weather gear in a dory and perhaps a whalewatch boat.  Let's be unique.  We are in other aspects.

Go for it!
1:29 am edt 

Ballot Stuffing !!!!!!!

More votes have been cast for the green line than there are people who voted at town meeting.  Vote early and vote often is the old adage. Shame on you, and most people in town know who she is, the main advocate. This is a farce and only goes to show how low some people will go. The green line was a BAD idea, it is not in the historic nature of the town, and a tacky line will probably not help the fine art  business in the East end of town. The Ballot stuffing is obvious, and only shows the complete lack of morals that some people have. The long tacky line is not Provincetown.
1:27 am edt 

Closing of High School

Closing the school was/is probably one of the BIGGEST happenings in this town! The ramifications will be felt here for many years. This is a HUGE loss to this community.

I have fond memories of the many High School Musicals like "Oklahoma", "Fiddler on the Roof", "South Pacific", "Hair", "Paint Your Wagon" and yes, "The King & I". From a small town came such magnificent talent! What a sensation it was to sit and watch our local kids transform themselves on that stage! I also sat through many a basketball game with rapt attention as our local kids made it all the way to the State Tourneys! In fact, only a couple of years ago, we did it again with our small school!

Remember folks, everything is cyclical, population not withstanding. I hope we will see the High School come back again. In the mean time, lets support our school and support our school committee through these difficult times. I too support Mr. Adams in his re-election bid. I believe he and his fellow board members have done an admirable job. I know Mr. Adams personally and cant think of a better candidate for this task. He is worthy of the challenge.
1:26 am edt 

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